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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1895.0. "MAIL SEND" by KERNEL::SMITHERSJ (Living on the culinary edge....) Thu Dec 03 1992 20:21

    If I have a .COM with
    
    $alli/noinit/reenter
    oa$ini_init
    mail send sys$login:fred.txt
    exit
    
    and in fred.txt I have 2 pages separated by a <FF>.  If I 
    do DT RV, the formfeeds are translated to a new page.  However,
    when I read the mail message produced by the .com file, the 
    formfeeds are not included.
    
    If I <list sys$login:fred.txt, a new page is produced.  If I 
    <include the file in a boilerplate and then <merge it, the 
    formfeed is produced too.
    
    Does MAIL SEND understand formatting in any way or is it purely
    a means of mailing documents or files?
    
    Thanks
    julia
    UK CSC 
    
    
    
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1895.1I never knew you could do that with MAIL SEND!SCOTTC::MARSHALLI'd rather be skiingThu Dec 03 1992 20:3514
Hi,

As MAIL SEND looks in the file being sent for "mail header" information, such as
recipients, subject, etc, and thus has to read the file record-by-record, it
seems quite likely that it "loses" form-feeds, etc.  I expect they just get
treated as record-separators.

MAIL SEND, used in this way, seems to be intended as a cheap-and-cheerful way
to send mail prepared outside ALL-IN-1.  It might be better to write a script
to create a "proper" mail message in ALL-IN-1, getting its text from your VMS
file.  That way you'd keep the formatting of the file (as you found with DT RV,
etc)

Scott
1895.2A older memory recalls ...AIMTEC::WICKS_ASoon: warm beer, football, rainThu Dec 03 1992 21:2718
    Julia,
    
    This particular use of MAIL SEND goes way back to the old DEcmail 
    and ALL-IN-1 v1.* days (he says reading from an ALL-IN-1 v1.1 manual
    page 104) and is even still documented in the v3.0 APR with almost the same
    text.
    
    The loss of form-feeds and line-feeds used to be a known bug
    - obviously it is no longer known (:==:)
                  
    Interestingly I just tried your test on a version of ALL-IN-1 that i'm
    not allowed to talk about and not only did I lose the ff but I also
    lost all the text after the FF (a priority 1 bug?) - maybe I'll have to
    dust off an SPR form?
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks