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1564.1 | Ayuh! | SPARKL::HICKSCOURANT | | Mon Mar 25 1991 15:43 | 17 |
| Jerry---
Yes, bass coloration changes over the course of the year. Conditions
affecting color in various ways include diet (or lack thereof), water
temperature, and the general vitality of the fish. Even in uniform
water temperatures, however, you will notice distinct differences
between one fish and another of the same species if you pay enough
attention.
There is also a great deal of fluctuation in the appearance of fish of
the same species in different bodies of water. For example, if you want
to see common yellow perch so startlingly colored that you will at
first think you have caught an errant tropical fish, try the Concord
River in Middlesex County, MA. For smallmouth bass of phenomenally
striking coloration, try the north end of Winepesaukee. I've found fish
of both species in other bodies of water that looked as drab as most
saltwater fishermen expect freshwater fish to be.
John H-C
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1564.2 | Colour Difference | KAOA01::COUTTS | | Mon Mar 25 1991 15:44 | 10 |
| I haven't seen any noticable difference of the Large-mouth colouration in
the lake I fish, however the Smallies vary from Black backs with gray
undersides to green to golden brown.
I'll ask a Fisheries Biologist friend of mine the next time I see him
and report back...
Regards,
Duncan
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1564.3 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | Don't Tread On Me... | Mon Mar 25 1991 17:03 | 23 |
| Coloration is affected in many fish by factors other than diet and environment-
one thing in particular that affects coloration in a very short time scale
is "mood." If you read enough articles about catching marlin, you will
eventually find the phrase "really lit up" with respect to the fish. What this
means is that the coloration of the fish became very vivid as a result of the
marlin getting excited by the bait. This occurs with many species of fish, and
not just as a result of excitement. Fear and aggression will also bring a
fish's colors out.
You can observe this in an aquarium. When a new fish arrives on the scene,
the colors of the other fish will become more pronounced.
It is very possible that on one day you can catch relatively drab colored
fish, and the next day you can catch fish in the same spot that are more
colorful. (Indeed the color change can occur fast enough to be seen by the
naked eye- ask a scuba diver.)
It may be that you are remembering fish that you caught when the water was
really warm and the fish were sluggish and comparing them to ones you caught
that had a different diet (time of the year) and were more apt to become
more deeply colored.
The Doctah
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1564.4 | | EPIK::CUMMINGS | Jerry Cummings, DECwrite for OS/2 | Mon Mar 25 1991 17:16 | 8 |
| Thanks for the information; It's good to hear that I might be
recalling things correctly, and that I'm not necessarily losing
my mind. I suspect that anyone who had seen/heard my "dance of
joy" Saturday after I released my biggest bass so far, might
have reached a different conclusion though. Especially since
I almost danced into the ice-water... :^)
Jerry
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1564.5 | Diver comments | SPARKL::HICKSCOURANT | | Tue Mar 26 1991 12:01 | 21 |
| re .3
I'm a scuba diver. My earlier comments were based on "naked eye through
the mask" observations of bass. Bass, in my experience, do not change
coloration "on the fly" as your comments on marlins suggest.
Bass are extremely curious, gregarious fish, and it is quite common to
find oneself surrounded by them. If the diver sits still for a few
moments, one or two of the bass will approach the diver's face mask to
within inches. This makes them very easy to observe.
What a startled bass does is shit. Drops a glob as if it were ballast
and then disappears in a microsecond. I've yet to see one change color
in a flash.
I should also have pointed out in my first response to this note that
the ambient light dramatically affects your perception of fish
coloration, especially in bass, which as a rule do not show sharp
foreground/backround contrasts in their markings.
Hope this helps.
John H-C
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1564.6 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | Don't Tread On Me... | Tue Mar 26 1991 12:06 | 7 |
1564.7 | They come in MANY shades 'n colors.. | DELNI::JMCDONOUGH | | Tue Mar 26 1991 14:30 | 14 |
| Re. Largemouth..
I've never seen one change while I had it in my possession, but I've
seen 'em come out of various lakes 'n rivers in various different
colors...from almost black, through various shades of green, to almost
white...
Remember that this is the "Black Bass", and in some parts of the
south it is till known to this day as the "Green Trout".
One of the neat things about this species is the different
colorations...
JMcD
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1564.8 | Forgot to mention... | SPARKL::HICKSCOURANT | | Tue Mar 26 1991 20:47 | 9 |
| Something I forgot to point out earlier....
It makes a lot of sense that you see a bass change color after you
catch it. If you keep it on a stringer, in a "live basket," or a live
well, you're still submitting the fish to a new water temperature for
an extended period and less oxygen than it is used to.
People change color when they're deprived of oxygen, too.
John H-C
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1564.9 | It's in the Eyes | DEMING::MATTSON | | Tue Apr 02 1991 11:06 | 12 |
| I was at the Bass Seminar that I put in here earlier, this past
weekend. The guy giving the talk (Mike Yellick) mentioned about Bass
being different colors. He said it's based on their surroundings.
The Bass is somewhat like the Chameleon, it tends to always want to
blend into the background it inhabits. This enables it to be more
effective at being a Preditor. What the bass sees in it's eyes, is what
triggers it to change it's colors.
regards,
Madd Matt
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1564.10 | smallies lighten up bigtime | RANGER::MACINTYRE | Terminal Angler | Wed Apr 03 1991 14:58 | 10 |
| Smallmouth often change color after being in livewells for a little
while. I have always equated this to a chameleon effect, repsonding to
the color of the interior of the livewell, as opposed to oxygen
depletion. I'm not saying that fish do not loose color when deprived
of oxygen, I wouldn't know.
But I'm sure that a "good" livewell can oxygenate the water well beyond
the normal level of most bodies of water.
-donmac
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1564.13 | wow, a real discussion! | RANGER::MACINTYRE | Terminal Angler | Thu Apr 04 1991 15:38 | 32 |
| True, the bass must have water passing thru the gills to strain/absorb
oxygen, however, it is not necessary for bass to be swimming all of the
time. Different species have different tolernces and different method
of extracting oxygen.
On one end of the spectrum you have fish like shark which do not have
the ability to flare their gills (I believe their gills are like
staitionary strainers) and therefore must be moving at all times
On the other end of the spctrm, some lower species such as Pickeral and
catfish can absorb oxygen through their skin (as well as gills) - this
is one reason they are less prone to winterkill. Catfish will often bury
themselves in mud during the winter.
I think the bass fall into the middle of this spectrum.
For a couple of years, I kept bass in an aquarium that was plenty large
enough for the fish to swim around freely.
One of the things that I observed was that the bass could often sit in
one place for hours on end - flaring it's gills to maintain the water
flow necessary to absorb oxygen.
Between what I have read, my observations of the bass in my aquarium,
and seeing my livewell occasionally nearly 'froth' with bubbles while
circulating in freshwater, I would still maintain that bass in a well
functioning livewell should not be starved of oxygen.
In-fisherman might have covered this at one time or another, if I think
of it tonight I'll do a search.
-donmac
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1564.15 | Mating brings out the color? | PACKER::PACKER::BACZKO | Now, for some fishin' | Tue Apr 09 1991 23:25 | 10 |
| I have noticed that in the spring the bass up in this area seem to have
more pronounced color then during the winter or summer. I am not sure
but I think some of the coloring may be to intice a female to his bed.
Tonight I caught three and two of them had a very bold latral line and
the rest of the color patterns were bright. I know it is to early for
the spawn but this was something I noiced last year when I fished
Manchaug in the spring, but come summer and fall the fish were more
even green. What do you think??
Les
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1564.16 | JUST A THOUGHT... | HPSTEK::MMURPHY | | Wed Apr 10 1991 09:01 | 8 |
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More pronounced color during spawn?? I don't think the actual
spawn has anything to do with it. I know when I spawn I get a little
flush !! ha ha (sorry). I still think over 90% of the coloring is
do in part to its suroundings.
Kiv
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1564.17 | What they see is the key. | HPSTEK::BCRONIN | | Wed Apr 10 1991 10:55 | 11 |
| I've read several studies that say the Bass changes color to match
it's surroundings. One study even mentioned a large bass that was
blind in one eye and was always almost white on that side but had
normal coloration on the other side. I believe the "what they see and
available light theory". Nighttime, deep water, or really discolored
water and the Bass are pale. A-1 is a good example of this, dark
water with almost no light penetration and the fish are almost white.
Shallow clear water and a lot of sun, like Manchaug at spawning time,
and the colors are vibrant.
B.C.
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1564.19 | | 11SRUS::LUCIA | Here, fishy, fishy... | Mon Apr 15 1991 20:25 | 6 |
| I believe the lateral line assists fish in sensing vibrations, i.e. an
injured baitfish, your partner dropping a tacklebox on the bottom of
the boat, etc.
Tim
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1564.21 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | Don't Tread On Me... | Thu Apr 18 1991 10:50 | 10 |
| I think that lateral line is an unfortunate choice of words here
because "lateral line" has a strict physiological meaning which is common
to all fish. Perhaps lateral stripe is a better term. Tim's correct
about the function of the lateral line; it is a sensory device used to
locate prey as well as approaching predators. The lateral stripe of
darkened coloration on the largemouth bass, to the best of my
knowledge, has no physiological function beyond that of simple
coloration.
The Doctah
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1564.22 | | WMOIS::REEVE_C | | Mon Apr 22 1991 15:26 | 20 |
| Last year I caught a nice bass (6 lbs) at my cabin. It had beautiful
coloration with a very distinct lateral line. Since my father was
coming up the following morning, I decided to put the fish in a
3'x3'x3' cage that I happened to have handy, so that I wouldn't be
accused of "exaggeration". The next morning, I pulled him up and was
astonished to behold a fish that was shaped like a bass but looked like
a golden shiner (no sarcastic comments- it WAS a largemouth bass). The
lateral line had completely disappeared overnight.
Since I caught the fish in a rocky area but left him overnight in about
6' of water over sand, I concluded that bass did indeed change color to
match their surroundings. Since he still had lots of strength, I
released him to catch again this year.
I've caught bass in lots of different kinds of water throughout the
South and New England and have seen lots of color variation, but always
attributed it to things like diet or water composition. Apparently
they are also chameleons.
Chris
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