Conference vmszoo::rc

    I don't know if this will help you. But have you ever seen the small
    cheap self timers for a 35 mm camera. It screws normally into the 
    shutter button of the camera. It has a little dial for the amount 
    of time (delay activation of the shutter)  and a button to push to
    start the timer. They are fairly cheap $15.00 or less here. It is
    quite small and weighs only an ounce or so. You could , I would 
    think adapt it for your use. I will take a look at some mail-order
    places to see if they have something along this line. I'm sure 
    there are some old timer modelers out there who did this alot in 
    their younger years. If you are intrested in the camera time , let me 
    know. I'm sure I could find one, and get it out to you. Just send me 
    vaxmail.  
    
    Bob D.    37080::donaghy
    
    good luck, regards
    
     

    I think what he might be looking for is one of the free-flight fuel
    cutoff timers. That would be harder to do with the camera timers. The
    camera timers would make a good dethermalizer timer but when he asked
    for 20 seconds, I thought it was an engine cutoff timer.
    
    Personally, I haven't seen the FF cutoff timers in a long time (but I
    mostly read R/C magazines)

    Jim,
    
    You are rigth, I am looking for a free-flight fuel cutoff timer because
    I want to build an old timer plane with RC on rudder an elevator.
    
    I read every month a lot of RC magazines (RCM, Radio Modeller,
    RCM&E,...) but Ihaven't seen in the advertisements the FF cutoff. Also
    this kind of timer is not in my copy of 1991 Tower Hobbyes catalog.
    
    Here in Spain we can buy only dethermalizer timers in some model shop.
    
    Regards.
    
    	Jordi
    

    I thought so. A substitute might be to use a normal throttle setup and
    kill the engine on idle. I can think of several cases (such as a bad
    launch) where killing it early or not at all would be wanted. A micro
    servo wouldn't weigh as much as one of the timers and wouldn't be a
    problem with bind-free linkage (no pressure on the servo like a control
    surface)

>               <<< Note 1315.3 by LLULL::EDO "Carpe Diem ..." >>>
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>    You are rigth, I am looking for a free-flight fuel cutoff timer because
>    I want to build an old timer plane with RC on rudder an elevator.

Jordi, I thought I saw some of these recently so I went for a search
in my catalogues and you won't like the results.

There used to be a K&B unit advertised in the rubber catalogues but it
is now discontinued.  I did find some however.  It turns out that there
were several available from the Russian delegation at the WRAM show
last February.  I think they were going for less than $10.00 but
am not at all sure of the price.  Anyway I got a Russian catalogue
which lists some.  But it turns out Russians don't know how to make 
catalogues (as we know them) so it has no prices or exact info on how to order.

But if your persistent you should be able to get one because I have the
name and phone number(s) of the Russian director of "INTERROKS" a
"ROS-AEROPROGRESS" company.

Try
Alexandr V. Andreev
USSR, Moscow

              Tel. (095) 190-52-33
Fax (095) 200-22-16 INTERROKS 2222
    (095) 200-22-17 INTERROKS 2222
      Telex: 411700 INTERROKS 2222

The numbers mean nothing to me - let us know how you make out.

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    In one of the last two issues of either RCM or MAN, there is an 
    add for an auto cutoff timer. Lookes like it went up to 30 minutes.
    Price was under $20.00.
    
    Steve

Fer sure.  Free flight is alive and well in the world -- try Jim
Crocket Replicas for example -- they should be advertised in REAL
model airplane magazines like Model Builder :-) (and  I just let
my subscription run out!).  I can get the address if you send me
mail offline.

>               <<< Note 1315.3 by LLULL::EDO "Carpe Diem ..." >>>
>                               -< Cutoff timer >-
...
>    You are rigth, I am looking for a free-flight fuel cutoff timer because
>    I want to build an old timer plane with RC on rudder an elevator.

Jordi, Maybe I found the advertisement that Steve was referring to.
I'll quote the add as best I can:

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KSB Fuel Shutoff Timers
Again now available
$17.95
Shipping #2.50 for up to 6 units.
Over 6 add 35 cents each.
Exclusive Importer

F.A.I. Model Supply
P.O. Box 3957
Torrance, CA 90510

Tel:(213)830-8939
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I had checked their catalogue and this is the K&B that
I said is no longer available.  As it turns out it is KSB
(not K&B) my mistake and even tho my F.A.I. Catalogue
shows it no longer available - apparently it is now back
in circulation.  F.A.I. Model Supply is a long time
supplies of Free Flight and Rubber powered aircraft
hobby supplies.


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    Hi all,
    
    After a period of strong work in a presales project I can read now this
    conference.
    
    I would like to thanks each and every one of you for your help and for the
    references about cutoff timer. As I said before, here in Spain there
    are not many RC shops and could be very dificult to purchase some
    "special" items.
    
    Next week I will try to contact with the suppliers. I will post the
    results.
    
    Best regards.
    
    	Jordi
    

    Hi,
    
    Finally I obtained a cutoff timer from K&B, through a DEC colleage in
    Maynard. She bougth it and sent to me via surface mail. The cost was
    $20 and it work very fine.
    
    Thank you all.
    
    Best regards.
    
    	Jordi