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    Dan Eaton came up with a winner of an idea...
    
    If we could find a flying condition Panic (afterall, we all know how
    long it takes him to build anything! :-) and send it to him it would
    REALLY embarass him, but I bet he would have fun with it!
    
    So, does anyone know of a Panic for sale for a good price??
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    

    Maybe we could scratch build one as a demo at the CMRCM Mall Show and
    send it. I think it has some merit. This could be a great gift idea P^)

How about a Panic with a FOX engine?

But seriously - while this idea has merit - I would still like
to see your original gift idea happen also.

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    I didn't read it as" instead of" but more as "in addition to". My
    understanding was that additional funds have recently been pledged.

    Any airplane that can embarass its' recipient, merely by receiving
    it, has got to be the perfect gift for Al. The statues are still
    the primary gift, I assume.
    
    Terry

    Yes, the statue will still be the primary gift...
    
    I'll let you know friday how much extra money we have to spend..
    
    jeff
    

        Should someone write lock note 239?

    OK all of you creative types....
    
    Mark Antry is going to buy the statue from Micheal Garman's studio
    (we have decided to go with bronze to match the one he already has).
    
    So, he is also going to get is signed and possibly have a note written
    by Mr. Garman to Al...  
    
    It would probably work well if we gave him the text of the letter....
    
    So, please post what you think the letter should say...  Remember it 
    is from Garman to Al...
    
    (Friday will be the deadline again...  So get to it!)
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    

    How about something like:
    
    On behalf of the DEC R/C Noters, in appreciation of the wit , wisdom,
    advice, and just plain B.S. that you have brought to them over the
    past several years , I would like to present this statue, etc.....
    

    
    
    	Mr. Friedrichs, would like to make a pledge but can't get to
    your node from here in Cincinnati. I'm willing to bet your a hidden
    node. How bout' some tips for us 'remote' types.
    
    	Tks,
    
    		Carl

    I can get to APACHE ok from here so you might be able to route through
    here by specifying ZENDIA::APACHE::FRIEDRICHS as the mail address. If
    the problem is with N25480::FRIEDRICHS, try APACHE::FRIEDRICHS first.

    Yes, APACHE::FRIEDRICHS is unhidden and should work...
    
    Sorry,
    jeff
    

    Boy, that personal namme really instills confidence Jeff!

Gee, I forgot all about this.  Are we ready to Order?  If so, I may be able to 
stop down there tomorrow or if not Sat morning for sure.

We didn't have much for words if we get Michael to right a short note.  But if 
we take Terry's idea and make it go like.

To Al, the Desert Rat, On behalf of all the DEC R/C Noters, in appreciation of 
the wit, wisdom, advice, and just plain B.S that you have brought to them over 
the past several years.  Good luck, Michael Garman

any changes, additions, etc?

From the guys at Digital Equipment Corporation who
learned by computer network "Rambling with the Desert Rat".

    Yes Mark, please go ahead and order it..  Let me know what the price is
    and I will send you out a check...
    
    I have collected $130 and have pledges for $50 more...
    
    I am still getting prices for the stand...  But it looks like we may
    have about $100 extra...  Can we buy Panic for that??
    
    Cheers,
    jeff
    

OK I went to the Michael Garman Gallery today and purchased the statue.

Again, it was the "And There I Was..." in Bronzetone.  I attached a note to it
saying please sign and if possible include a short note from Michael to Al.


Again, I will cover shipping from here to AL as my contribution and
Will probably throw in some Glider pictures he can add to his scrap book.

What is the Stand discussion (I havent looked at the other conf).  They had
some simple wood pices there for stands but didnt look that hot.

I need Al's Address too, or let me know what/when/where to ship.

They said it should be signed within a week.

Total Damages:

$42 PLus tax........$44.73.

    Great!!
    
    Although I will be out of town next week, Al Ryder is going to get the
    stand made up...  I figured on a 5" diameter base...  Does that sound
    big enough??
    
    We were thinking that it would be engraved...
    
    	"To Al Casey, for all of your Notes>worthy contributions from your
    friends at Digital Equipment Corp., 1987-1991, and beyond."
    
    
    Does anyone have any leads on a Panic for about $100??
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    

    The kit runs $90+ once you get it into the states. I'm sure we could
    put one together for $100 if we scratch built. Just so happens I'll be
    cutting some Panic cores for my replacement ship...

    Oh yeah... The pictures are still dribbling in. I'm hoping that I can
    get some from Ken from the recent Mall show (You DID take some of the
    planes too, didn't you P^). Even from the local guys, I've only gotten
    a couple of people. Come on, dig out a couple a pics and stick them in
    the interoffice to:
    
    Jim Reith (imokay::reith)
    LTN2-1/F02
    
    Please send me email when they're sent and I'll reply when I recieve
    them.

    Al already has a Panic short kit that he appears not to have
    too much interest in building. If he received one already built,
    I don't think he'd fly it that much. Panic style flying is not
    Al's style.
    
    If you have $100 dollars to spend, I would think something like a gift
    certificate would be something he'd make use of for the flying he
    does do. Maybe some free subscriptions to magazines he gets. Maybe
    some video's. Maybe.........
    
    Steve

    I agree about Steve's and Dan S' (offline) comments about the Panic.
    It would be fun, but I don't think it would get used much.
    
    Well, we will have about $100 to spend after the statue and stand.
    
    I will be away next week...  When I get back, if there is not
    any concensus as to what to get him, I will get a gift certificate 
    from Towers.
    
    jeff (who has let a good idea turn into a major headache)
    
    BTW - Isn't it amazing that out of all of the people that read and
    write to this file, less than 20 people have contributed? 
    

    and I've gotten photos from 6...

    Just to confuse the issue even more, I received mail off line from
    someone who knows the RAT quite well. In his opinion, the Panic
    would be timely and would get used.
    
    S.

Just a couple of thoughts...

I had proposed the idea of a Panic to Jeff in some offline talk as a joke. Never
really intending that it should really be a gift for Al since from comments he's 
made in the past it would be more of a gag gift than anything else. Once the 
idea appeared here it seemed to gain momentem so I figured I was wrong about it.
It won't bother me a bit if we decide  to drop the Panic idea.

I like the idea expressed in one of the last notes about a magazine 
subscription. My in-laws give me a subscription to one of my favorite magazines
every year for Christmas. Each month, as I happily devour the contents of the 
magazine, I think of them and am extremely gratiful for their gift. Maybe we
should give some more thought towards this for Al. 

Maybe we could even get Norm Goyer to personally sign each copy for Al. 8^) That
part's a joke folks, just so there's no misunderstanding... 8^) 

Well we tried.....

I picked up the Statue yesterday from Garman's and all we managed out of the 
deal was Michael Garman's signature on the bottom of the base of the statue.

Oh well, we knew that anything extra would be a bonus..

I still need to know what to do with it and Jeff, MY IFR flying fund (now have
20 hours with 20 to go) could use that 1 hours worth of flying fund. Just let
me know when you send it and Please dont use SNAIL mail....

    When is the projected presentation date and how will it be
    accomplished? Are we looking at personal delivery or items put into
    mailings, etc.? When can we expect to be able to communicate, off-line,
    directly to Al and communicate our feelings, without spilling any
    "beans"?
    
    Don Huff

    Hi Don,
    
    Al was told about the photo album before he left. I've gone through the
    pictures I have but I haven't gotten the album yet. Little league seems
    to be eating up most of my nights lately. My hope is to have it ready
    to go in a couple of weeks. I'm still accepting pictures...

    The pen-and-ink is being worked on and should be done in a couple of 
    weeks.  
    
    The Micheal Garman statue is signed and in Mark Antry's hands, ready to
    be sent.
    
    The plaque/clock should be ready this week.
    
    Once the pen-and-ink and plaque are ready, we will ship them to arrive
    at approximately the same time as the statue....  Perhaps we will get 
    the photo album there at the same time...
    
    Unless someone says they are going to be there in person, I suspect
    that the UPS man will be the presentor!
    
    Cheers,
    jeff
    

    My wife picked up the plaque/clock on Friday for me...
    
    They screwed it up...
    
    Part of the inscription was 
    
    	"Notes>worthy"  they made it "Notes ) worthy"
    
    Looks like &*$#.
    
    I will be going back tomorrow to see what the next step is...  At
    this rate, it is going to be an early christmas present...  Grumble
    grumble....
    
    
    BTW - The finances turned out to be:
    
    
    Income:	$195.00
    
    Expenses:	 $44.73	 Statue
    		$100.00  Clock/Plaque (plus postage)
    		 $50.00  Gift Certificate to Towers
    		-------
    		$194.73
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    

    Well, I finally got all of the pieces together...
    
    The box is going out this morning and contains:
    	
    		plaque/clock
    		$50 gift certificate & catalog from Towers
    		India Ink drawing of Mig 3 done by Al Ryder's son-in-law
    
    I have sent mail to Mark to send the statue in the next couple of days.
    
    Mission (finally!) completed.
    
    Cheers,
    jeff
    

I actually goofed and was about a week late getting the statue to Al.  He sent
me a nice letter back, that I will post.  I also through in picture of one of
my F3b Gliders and suggest for Al to give gliders a try.   Here is his letter.

    	      				 Al Casey
    	      				 13148 N. 21st Ave.
    	      				 Phoenix, AZ 85029
    	      				 (602)863-1456
    
    	      				 24 July, 1991
    
    Que Paso, Mark,
    
    Your package arrived yesterday afternoon.  As if the items received 
    last week from Jeff weren't enough, my grateful eyes fell upon the 
    terrific Michael Garman Pilot statue and, once again, all I could 
    think of was, "Gee whiz, guys, you REALLY shouldn't have!.  I 
    noticed also that the bronze pilot figure was signed by the artist 
    which is an additional very nice touch.  Please convey, via the 
    notesfile, my heartfelt thanks for the too, too kind gesture,.  It's 
    extremely gratifying to realize I was so well thought of by members 
    of the RC.notesfile and I'll never forget this generous expression 
    of thoughtfulness on their part.   The bitter side of the pill is 
    that I've lost the notesfile and will never be able to participate 
    in it again but I guess I should be grateful that I was able to 
    participate for the past 4-years; better to have participated in the 
    notesfile and lost it than never to have known it at all I guess.  
    :B^(  sniff!
    
    As I'm sure you gleaned form the notesfile, this figure, with the 
    WW-II pilot "flying his hands" describing a kill was the one that 
    most impressed me when I saw the trophies at the Phoenix Masters 
    Qualifier last January.  I truly loved the one I won, with the head 
    tilted skyward and thumbs hooked in the chute straps, but I was 
    really taken by the "hand flying" figure.
    
    Oddly enough, had I taken the MiG to the California Qualifier in 
    June and placed second again, I'd have one the "hand flyer" as 
    they'd reversed the two figures on their 1st and 2nd place trophies.  
    However, as you may have already know from the notesfile, I left the 
    MiG at home due to the noise restriction the Scale Squadron had been 
    forced to levy and which I couldn't pass without butchering the nose 
    of my faithful steed, something I was (and am) unwilling to do.  
    Fortunately, no such restriction will be in force at the Las Vegas 
    Master Championships this fall.  I'd sure like to bring home a 
    top-10 finish this year as I'd kind'a feel like "this one's for the 
    guys in the notesfile!"
    
    It's a ways off yet, but I hope the SW Regional doesn't take place 
    on the same weekend as the Phoenix Master Qualifier next year like 
    it did this year.  That way, I'd have a chance of seeing you and 
    other Colo Spgs and Albq DEC glider guiders 'cause I'll be there for 
    certain in there's no conflict of dates.
    
    The pic of yer' new(?) glider looks great; hope it flies as good as 
    it looks.  Don't hold'jer breath 'til I start flying gliders, 
    though.  As I know you know, I'm a died-in-the-wool power-planer and 
    expect I always will be.  Until or unless the hands, eyes or 
    reflexes give out, scale WW-II fighters will always be my bag!  I 
    just can't get interested in much of anything else with the 
    exception of a (powered) sport plane and I have little desire to do 
    many more of those when the same amount of toil could be applied to 
    a scale ship.  We all fall into our T/C niches after a time and, 
    like yours is gliders, mines is, and probably always will be, scale.
    
    BTW, I'm still looking for good documentation (or source[s]) of 
    same) for the Yak-9d and -9T37.  What I need the most is detail of 
    the landing gear and gear doors and the color documentation.  For 
    color I need a minimum of one view of either side and the top view.  
    Additional views are gravy but those 2 are the minimum requirements.  
    Mebbe' you could post a request for me in the notesfile.  Someone 
    out there may have something or be able to recommend a source.
    
    Well, as I sit here looking at and admiring my fancy RC NOTES 
    clock/plaque, I notice it's approaching suppertime and I've about 
    run down anyway so I'll start signing off.  Say a special hello to 
    John Tavares and the rest of the area modelers for me and please 
    post a reply for me in the notesfile acknowledging the receipt of 
    the pilot figure and thanking all who had a part in it(and al the 
    other goodies) from the bottom of my very grateful heart!  I wish I 
    could do it myself but....... I miss the notesfile and the 
    participants of same more than my meager ability allows me to 
    express and I wish all noters everywhere green lights and blue 
    skies!!
    
    
    	      				 Adios, amigo,
    
    	      				 (signed)
    
    	      				 (Place Desert Rat logo here.)