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    << Up here in the Cold Northeast you gotta work hard for your deers.. >>
    << unlike you Southern boys tanning it up in treeforts ... :^)        >>
    
    
          Sounds like another Civil War is about to be born .....     :^)
    
    
                                                    Guy

                    <<< Note 270.446 by 17576::PAPPALARDO >>>

    
    << Up here in the Cold Northeast you gotta work hard for your deers.. >>
    << unlike you Southern boys tanning it up in treeforts ... :^)        >>
    
    
 >         Sounds like another Civil War is about to be born .....     :^)
    
                                                  Guy

	Raise the flag, hide the yungin's an wimmin folk..........

	As a displaced Yankee, just who do I owe loyalty to ;-)

	Red - In Geogia. Though I miss the N.E. I'm never leaving the
		south unless it's with a coat of tar and feathers....

    See what the hell I mean!  Red has today off, and he is in hunting
    notes, and not on the stand.
    
    Hey boy!  Get your red bearded ugly mug on the stand!  Do you expect to
    harvest a deer from your living room sofa.  Have a good hunt though,
    Red.  I'll call you Friday night the  26th to see how you did.  You
    gonna be home?
    
    Bob
    

    "As a displaced Yankee, just who do I owe allegiance to?"
    
    To the winners, of course!
    
    Jeff (who comes from a loooooong line of Yankees!)

     <<< Note 270.448 by 33972::RHARRIS "Gun Control is a steady hand!" >>>
                         -< get in the stand youngin >-

    See what the hell I mean!  Red has today off, and he is in hunting
    notes, and not on the stand.
    
    Hey boy!  Get your red bearded ugly mug on the stand!  Do you expect to
    harvest a deer from your living room sofa.  Have a good hunt though,
    Red.  I'll call you Friday night the  26th to see how you did.  You
    gonna be home?
    
    Bob
    

	Bob,

		I'm headed out Sunday morning. Will return Wednesday
	night, take the wife to dinner and return to camp on Friday
	Morning. Will be home Sunday night.

	Red

    Good idea.  This notes file was starting to resemble the Bass Fishing
    notes file. 
    
    Earl
    

    
     Excuse me...
    
                                                Kiv

    I caught a 11 point largemouth?
    
    Bob
    

    Guys,
    
    I didn't get out this weekend (Was going to go Muzzleloading Saturday
    for a doe, but didn't), but a friend of mine(used to be a taxidermist)
    helped me mount one of my bucks that I bow killed this year.  Talk
    about really interesting.  I had an absolute blast!  It was a pain
    fleshing him out, but one I got him on the form and started working
    with him, I got excited.  I guess I spent about 8 hours this weekend
    on it and he is drying.  I will put the finishing touches on him
    Saturday (airbrush the nose and eyes).  I killed him Oct 1 and he had
    a "summer coat", which really shows the detail of the form.
    
    I know most never have the opportunity to try it but if you ever do,
    don't pass it up.
    
    Wess

    
      Well since most of this is just chitter chatter this would be th best
    note to enter it in.
     12/30/93 I arrived in PA, met my step dad to go out on the green tag
    farm closest to us, I called the farmer and found out he has ~400 acres
    we arrive there and embark on a journey to find the elusive whitetails.
     the 3.5 hours in the woods proved futile, lotsa tracks and sign but no 
    deer spotted several shots heard on the opposite side of the road I
    guess we  picked the wrong side to go on *))  oh well.
     12/31 met stepdad (Pat) aat 8:00 30mph winds 14degrees brrrr, with bow
    in hand we depart to put some small drives on for each other, first
    drive we get 2 deer up, go below me about 50 yrds away grrrr, they run
    over into the christmas tree farm and 1 met her dismay when she ran by
    someone with a muzzleloader. we decided to go out to the back of the
    farm so we wouldnt push deer to someone else since they were very calm
    after the regular season.
     we had several other deer up but couldnt connect, so I went back to
    get the wife and chainsaw to cut a load of firewood, I wanted to go out
    to the back part of the farm, so I am going out the old tramroad and we
    get to the powerline and I told the wife you watch now that I dont have 
    my bow those deer will be just on the other side of the power line in
    the grapevine....s there they are all 5 of them!! 30 yards away!!
    standing there looking at us in the truck! one takes off across the
    tramroad and runs out into the field and stops about 30 yards away! by
    now I am cursing myself for being unpreparedoh well I got work to do so
    on out the tram road and turn into the woods on the logging road 4 deer
    go blazin by the truck. so I cut my load of firewood and loaded it up.
    
      I then went into town to the lumber yard to get turkey wire, the guy
    at the yard started chatting, "so where ya feedin turkeys at" me "our 
    farm out behind beela" him "really where at" me "next farm up from the 
    christmas tree farm" him "did you buck hunt there this year" me "yeap"
    him " are you the one that got the big seven pt. that should have been 
    an 8 pt but the one brow tine was broke off?" me " yeah I got a big 7
    pt. who told you about it?" him " well a guy was in here telling me
    that his buddy saw it hanging out there" all I said to him was well
    that buck came from new york....by now I was to the point where I had
    to change the topic of conversation before I blew my top, to clarify
    why I was P oed I hung this deer up at 10:30 PM on 11/24/93 and
    butchered him on 11/27/93 at 5:00 pm. the whole time this deer hung 
    INSIDE our barn! so this person who told this guy about my deer had to
    be inside our barn to see it! so when I told my stepdad about it he
    said he caught a guy walking out of the barn last week and when he
    questioned him he said well I saw the tips of those deer horns inside
    the door and wanted to get a better look so he just walked in!! man the 
    balls of some people! 
     so anyways while mom and my my wife made supper pat and I constructed
    2 turkey feeders, and plotted out where we were gonna place them. we
    have 2 flocks of turkeys there one about 32 birds and the other around
    21 birds, they have been really scratchin the last week or so with all
    the snow on the ground.
    
     Saturday morning I finished up my deer hunting on a sucessfull note,
    they went right back to the grapevines about 9 am. I hadnt got but 3
    hrs sleep friday night, spent newyears eve and the first 4 hrs of
    newyears day on C&K's coal washing pond searching for the body of the
    person who put their car through the ice, not enjoyable when the wind  
    chill was about -10 and the fear of possibly knowing the person who was 
    in the water, the divers finally arrived at 11:45pm and by the time we
    had everything set up the first dive went off at 1:06 am, the car was
    found directly below the hole in 30 feet of water, with signs of the
    person being inside when it went down. the diver got the plate # and
    when the info came back from the state police it was a stolen plate #
    but we still had not recovered anything yet, they dove 3 more times but
    came up empty, but with a 20 acre pond coverd with ice it was a futile 
    search.
      But anyways I loaded the deer into the truck and took it to camp and 
    hung it up & tagged it, I called my one nephew and and told him if he
    needed some venison that he could have this deer, he has been
    unemployed for awhile and I had found out that their freezer was almost 
    empty but I wanted to let him decide if he wanted it.
     then we went rabbit hunting had about 25-30 rabbits up and got 4,
    there are so many wistle pig holes around the farm they run right to 
    them, but then again thats why there are so many rabbits there cause
    they have places to get away from predators. and that about wrapped up
    our eventfull new years weekend.
    
                                                       Lee
     
          

    
    Well time has come to say good-bye. In today's DEC atomosphere, this
    is strange, this time of departure is my choice. 
    
    March 4th will be my last day at DEC, I start a new job in Nashua NH
    on March 14th, in a company called Datamedia, doing distributed server
    developement.
    
    One of the biggest things I will miss is this notesfile. While I have
    met very few of you, I have learned ALOT from you all, and feel I 
    owe alot of my success in the 93 hunting season to you, it was my
    most successfull hunting season ever, including my first deer, and
    a nice one at that (the rack looks great mounted on the wall!).
    
    I will miss "talking" with you all, rest assured I will be in the
    woods/fields/swamps come october 94.  If you are ever in need of 
    some companionship for a hunt, I'd be glad to hunt with any of you.
    
    If there is any future get togethers of this file, be it sporting clays
    or anything else, please keep me in mind. I can be reached on the
    internet at: huston@datamedia.com.
    
    Once again, thank you for the last few years, and lets all stay safe
    out there and ensure our children the chance to enjoy this wonderfull
    sport of ours!
    
    --Bob
    
    

    Geez Bob.  Best of luck to you.  I agree with you that the hunting
    notes file has been full of valuable information, as well as some good
    old fashioned ribbing.  I know I won't see you in the woods, unless you
    come down south, and good luck in all you do.
    
    Regards,
    Bob
    

    
    Bob    Has the saying go!!
    
           Good Luck in your new job
           We'll miss you too
           We'll miss your infor. and storyes here in the notes file
           
           Happy & Save hunting to you
           
     
           Good bye
           Pappy
    
    

    Bob,
    
    Good luck in the new job.  Did you put in for deer season off?
    
    Wess

    
    Take care Bob.  Best to you on the new job.
    
    
    Gary

    Good luck (with the new job AND next season!)
    
    Mark,
    

    Good Luck Bob, keep your powder dry and good hunting!
    				Bret

    
    
    Well I'm outta here, thanks for all the knowledge and time I have 
    spent "talking" with you all, enjoyed it all, and can safely say
    the biggest thing I will miss about DEC is this notesfile!!
    
    Be glad and proud to shoot/hunt with any of you anytime!
    
    someone please contact me if any fun get togethers are planned, I can
    be reached at: 
    	
    	HUSTON@DATAMEDIA.COM
    
    Stay safe and good luck!!
    
    Enjoyed all the time!
    
    --Bob
    

    Bob, it's on the way to me now.  Send me your home address, and I will
    send it to you upon completion.  That way you can see it.
    
    Bob
    

    Guys,
    
    Anyone out there getting ready for a special muzzleloading season?
    Ky has a 2 day early one starting on Saturday.  I got my 50cal
    flintlock out last night just to get psyched.  I can't decide whether
    to bowhunt or take it out, I'll probably take the flinter and stillhunt
    some.
    
    I have one question that has bothered me since I got the rifle about 5
    years ago.
    
    The guy who made the gun said that the Hoppes blackpowder solvent was
    all I needed to clean it with.  Most of the guys I know use boiling hot
    water and so on...   Of course I haven't had any problem so far, but I
    still feel that I need something else.
    
    Opinions?
    
    Wess

    wess, 
    
     you will need a few things do properly clean a muzzleloader barrel,
          2 old towels
          1 bucket
          1 gallon boiling water
    
      pour the water into the bucket, wrap the first towel around the
    barrel (this one you will hold with your hand, take the other towel
    fold it up and wrap it around (over) your hand on the barrel and around
    the barrel, this is for protection from convected heat and splashing of
    water from the barrel.
    
      stand the barrel in the bucket of water, muzzle end up, with a
    cleaning patch on the ramrod push it all the way to the bottom, pull it
    back up, a properly fitting ramrod and patch will create a vacume and
    pull the boiling water into the barrel. continue doing this and keep
    changing patchs until they are clean.
      
      If you have only been using hopps, I think you will be suprised at
    how dirty the water  will become. the reason for the boiling water is
    that as soon as the barrel is removed from the water the moisture 
    evaporates imediatly leaving the barrel dry and moisture free.
    
                        hope this helps
    
                                  and good luck this weekend
                                           Lee
    

    Lee,
    
    Thanks for the reply, that is what I have been hearing since I had
    gotten it.  I just thought that since the guy that made it told me that 
    all I needed was Hoppes, that was all I needed.  I guess since pioneers
    have been using boiling water since the beginning of time, I should
    have just followed their lead.
    
    Kill a couple this weekend yourself.
    
    Wess

    
    
       Wess,
    
      I forgot to mention one very important thing if you have a picky
    wife(((8*
    
    
       This should be done outside of the house,,,, it will probably stink.
    
    
                                                         Lee
    

    Lee,
    
    The Hoppes stuff stinks pretty bad too.  I usually go out to the garage
    to clean.
    
    Wess