Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

    Hey Leonard,
    
    How about dragging a 50 lb. bag of apples behind you, and then eat them
    all at your stand, throwing the apple cores right under your stand? 
    Actually, what your idea is, is a good one.  The smell of food sounds
    good to me, but then it is breakfast time.  What flavor of jelly would
    you use with the peanut butter?  But really, I guess it depends on what
    kind of food is in the area for the deer.  I am sure that peanut butter
    would probably scare the deer like the smell of human.  I never see
    peanut butter in the woods.  I may be wrong though.  Whatever works,
    and is successful, use it.  One week for you eh? 17 days for me. I'm
    already having fits.
    
    good luck,
    BB     (bob)
    

    
    I've seen peanut butter scent wafers before. I think the idea is
    that they do smell it as a food source but are not scared of it.
    I've never tried it so I can't say if it would work or not.
    
                                            Walt

    Someone once told me that molasses attracts deer very well...

    Never tried peanut butter for deer, but it works great for squirrels.
    Just put a gob on a stump or log, sit back and  in a few minutes there
    will be squirrels fighting over the peanut butter. Works best in the
    early morning or late evening when the squirrels are most active. So,
    I would say give it a try, if you are run over by squirrels but not
    deer, then change the hunt to a squirrel hunt, at least then you will
    have something to take home. ;<).
    
    Carl		

    I used to have an uncle who hunted for two weeks in Maine each year.
    I was young at the time but remember that he would religiously air
    out his cloths by hanging then on the breeze way for three weeks
    straight and then pack then in a burlap (sp) bag that he had used
    to store apples.  When he went to maine the cloths were folded and
    the bag placed on top of them in a duffle bag he used only for hunting.
    
    
    Tom

    Someone recently told me about a scent that they make that seems to
    work well. They take a bunch of acorns and put them in a blender and
    the stuff turns to a kind of mush. The smell seems to be like a
    concentration of acorns. Sounds easy enough. 
    							bret

    

    
    
    
Re .1   try the green apples, but forget about the effect they have 
       after a few hours.  re- Jelly, actually use bananas, rarely see 
       any over weight deer. 
 
       
Re .2  this is what I'm thinking, that's one reason for using the crunchy 
       variety. The idea comes from the fact that they like the acorns and 
       that it is a member of the nut family.

Re .4  thinking about it now, guess I won't use the peanut butter like a 
       like camouflage dressing, I'll put it out in a clearing. The original 
       idea was to just keep it along side me, which would also provide   
       me something to munch on if I got hungry.  Wearing it was a thought
       in passing also, seems the closer the deer can be drawn in the 
       better my chances for bagging one.  Hmmm, squirrel hunting with a 
       .444 would be interesting.  Just remember Carl, not all the squirrels 
       live in the woods.



Re. .3.5.6  In all seriousness, y'all have given me an idea which I will 
     try, that is use the blender to make a mixture of scent. thank you, 
     I can just see my wife's expression when nuts, molasses and other
     ingredients are drop in the blender.

    re .7 I can see *your* expression when you try to pour this goop
    _out_ of the blender :-) :-)

    Re .7
    Re .8
    
    	Or his wife's expression when he leaves it on the counter on his
    way out to hunt at 03:00 and she finds it around 08:00 or so...If you
    don't have ants in the house, leaving this around will bring 'em in.
    
    	Good luck on your Southern ( Ga. ) season, seeing as I won't be
    	there as they cancelled the Req...
    
    	Red

    she won't have to worry about finding them at 8:00.  Can you imagine
    what kind of racket that would make at 3:00 am?  She'll probably
    kick him out the door and change the locks while he's hunting!!!!!
    
    Ha!

    Just make sure she doesn't see the deer seed that is added to the
    mixture.
    
    ;<)
    
    carl
    

    
    Well mixed up a small batch of crunchy peanut butter and molasses.  It
    was somewhat of a chore getting it out of the blender, think next time
    I'll use the paint mixer and drill motor.  Well at any rate, I was
    going to put it out in the back yard since deer do frequent the area. 
    Deciding that it was too late in the evening I decided to store it in
    the fridge, well guess what.  The kids got up early the next morning
    and they absolutely loved it, and want me to mix up another batch.  The
    only thing they complained about later in the day was an irregularity
    of sorts, that'll teach em top mess with the scent.  The only thing I'm
    glad I didn't do was go out in the front yard and get the acorns like I
    had inteded on doing, but again it was just to late for that.  If it
    attracts 'kids' maybe it will attract deer, it sure did make dear
    happy.
    
    Cheers
    Leonard 'master mixer'
    
    
     
    
    

    Leonard,
    
    Was it hard to clean the blender?  Did your kids start leaving their
    scent around the house after ingesting your concoction?  Oh, by the
    way, since I spoke with you last night, hearing about your scheduled
    deer hunting trip, I expect to see some notes from you in the 90-91
    hunting notes when you get back.
    
    15 days and counting!!!!!!!
    
    Rob
    

    YOU BETTER CHECK OUT ALL THESE SUGGESTIONS WITH THE LOCAL GAME WARDEN.
    
    BAITING DEER IS AGAINST THE LAW I BELIEVE.
    

    I'll just hunt in the acorns!!!
    
    Rob
    

     Best be careful with the peanut butter "scent" The game wardens will
    be checking deer this year to see if there's peanut butter stuck to the
    roof of the deer's mouth when you bring it in to the registration
    station. Then they'll fine you for baiting.
    
    Bob
    
    PS  ;-)
                                               

    
    re 13, Well Randy, it wasn't easy,  the dogs loved the blender
           container, until the tounge got hung on the blade, should have
           removed it first I guess.
    
    
    re 14. BAITING! me never, "Well warden I was using the stuff for marking
           my trial.  Darn deer musta off been trying to get me lost in the
           woods eating my markers, couldn't have let that happen?"  If the
           warden is slower than me it might work.
    
    re 15. you'll hunt(or was it among) with your acorns??  Elaborate Please.
    
    
    Bob, has this been tried successfully in your neck of the woods?
    
    Cheers
    Leonard
    
    By the time this is read it'll be only two more days!!!!!  I'm all
    packed and ready to go.  Oh by the Carl & Randy, I did get the gun
    rack up.
    
    
          
    

    Seriously, if your kids are anything like mine they should love
    collecting bags of acorns for dad. Once you get the acorns what i do 
    is put them in a tough plastic bag and drive over it slowly a couple of
    times, pick out the acorn nuts and drop them in the blender and mix it
    up with a lot of water so you have a real thin watery type mixture.
    Then pour it in a gallon container and wallah, you have a years worth of
    acorn scent. It took me no more than a half an hour to do all of the
    above.
    
    

    
    re 19.  this also is a serious question.  
    
    How long have you let it set?  I would imagine that there must be
    ageing time?
    
    Many of the scents are sprayed, or poured on.  I would guess that the
    best application of this would be to soak the hunting clothes in it and
    then air dry?  
    
    There are some other options available in using, do you have any
    preference?
    
    Cheers
    Leonard
    

    Re:-20
    Check basenote 38.

    Leonard,  I find that the smell does get stronger the longer it sits
    as well as the more concentrated it is. I usally make it in the spring 
    after letting the acorns dry out and use it in the fall. I can't say if it
    really works but I feel comfortable using it. I have a spray bottle
    that I use once I get within 10 to 15 minutes of my stand. Although 
    your idea of spraying your clothes and letting them sit doesn't 
    sound bad.
    
    BTW.. I do see deer every year and get at least one opportunity, although
    my success rate is not as good as that. That's why I feel comfortable
    using it. 
    
    
    Brian
    

    I have a different approach to a scent that works !!! Borrow your
    hunting partners hat and hang it from a nearby tree!! You know the
    friend that's been shootin at deer for years and usually runs out
    of arrows ( or bullets ). This scent the deer from the area are
    familiar with and DON'T feel the least bit threatened, thus allowing
    you, the crack shot to capitolize on their relaxed, laughing mood!
    
      Seriously, I used to use masking scents, but stopped using them
    a couple of years ago, and I still see plenty of deer, and don't
    have to put up with some of those funky smells while attempting
    to stay warm in my tree stand. I suppose if they give you added
    confidence, then go for it, otherwise save your money, and blender
    for other things. Good Hunting!
    
                           << Jeff >>

    
    Fred Trost of "Michigan Outdoors" was experimenting with scents
    again this weekend. He used a bottle of XXX, a bottle of human urine
    and a bottle of Aqua velva after shave. The photog then hid in a
    ground blind with a stone wall to his back and a bunch of christmas
    trees in a semi circle in front of him. The wind was blowing to his
    left and three bucks came in. They went directly to XXX then to
    the human urine. The photog heard something to his left and slowly
    turned, there was a big buck standing in the entrance to his blind.
    The deer walked in and started hitting the camera with his antlers.
    The photog ended up kicking the deer in the butt to get it out of
    the blind. The photog said the deer was grunting the whole time
    and had an erection. The photog then put another tree in the door
    of his blind only to have the deer jump over the tree into the blind.
    
    The camera stopped at this point cause the guy had to fend off the
    deer with the cameras tripod, he started yelling for help and FT
    came running, he saw what was happening picked up the camera and
    caught it all on film. The deer was grunting and pawing the ground
    a little, then it showed FT walk to with 10 yards of the deer to
    scare him off so he could retreive the bottle of XXX. The deer would
    not leave until FT started to stamp his feet and walk towards the
    deer, the deer then only ran off about 10 yards.
    
    All this happened in a reserve that was not hunted so the deer would
    not have been especially scared of people but it turns out that
    this buck was raised by humans and bottle fed, that's why he was'nt
    scared. However the other three bucks were scared but did come to
    the scent of XXX. What is XXX you ask? Well send me $20 in unmarked
    bills....oh never mind, it was......
    
    
    
    Ammonia. Urine when it decomposes turns to ammonia, this attracted
    the deer then they went to the fresh human urine. I plan to try
    it this weekend to see if it works. FT said it only attratced bucks
    and was $.82 a bottle compared to $10+ for other attractents.
    
    
    The show is Michigan Outdoors, every sunday morning at 10:00 on
    channel 11 out of NH. They have a magazine you can send for, which
    I did, send to Fred Trost Michigan outdoors
                   p.o.o box 1000
                   bath, Michigan 488088
                                                                   
    First issue is free then they ask you to join the club. This is
    a very good show and the magazines are hard copies of the shows.
                                                                    
                                          Walt
    

    
    	Saw the same show(I *try* to get the T.V. on Sun. Morning).
    
    		I really like his show, and his demeanor.  I may also try
    that Ammonia trick this week-end.  Why?  This past weekend I was
    talking to a guy who said."Yup! this guy I work with was driving down
    your street about 4:30 Sunday and hit a BIG buck". "He broke his
    headlight, and saw some blood on the back of its' hind leg, but the
    damn thig jumped up-and ran right through your yard into your back
    yard!"
    
    		I would like to see if I could at least see this buck, as I
    was out this Sunday, and couldn't find hide nor hair(it did rain a
    couple of days in between), and the Ammonia trick sure seemed to work.
    
    
    		Chuck