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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

850.0. "West Bend/Chrysler/Force outboard parts" by FSOA::DBROSNIHAN () Mon Jun 03 1991 17:27

    I am hoping someone can help me locate some Chrysler parts for a 1973
    75hp outboard. I am looking for a distributor cap. I have had no sucess
    in having the motor repaired or finding a cap. At this time the engine
    will not start, although I have spark, gas, and compression. I have
    checked the timing and still no go. Any sources for parts or a fix
    would be appreciated. Also if anyone knows the firing sequence- cap to
    plug would be great for a double check on that. 
    
    Thanks,
    
    Dennis Brosnihan
    297-7544
    FSOA::DBROSNIHAN
    
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850.1Here's a Shot in the DarkFSOA::HWYDOMMon Jun 03 1991 18:096
    Try Doug Russell marine on route 20 in Worchester.  Haven't been out
    there for years, but you you might get lucky. He used to be a Chrysler 
    dealer, maybe still has some parts.  
    
    Good luck
    Herb
850.2CHRYSLER=FORCEMR4DEC::DCADMUSTue Jun 04 1991 17:3514
    
    
    Bayliner bought out Chrsyler a few years ago and cahnged the name to
    FORCE outboards. They are still alive and well and in Business. THe
    difference between a Force and a Chrysler is essentially the colr of
    the paint.
    
     If you are in dire straites, a Force Dealer that I am aware of is the
    one I used to get my parts from- The Boat House in Warren, R.I.
    (401)-245-5538- he may be able to tell you the name of a dealer near
    you.
    
    Dick
    
850.3Bearing sourceGOLF::WILSONWe don't need no stinking decalMon Oct 14 1991 18:5827
    
    Moved by moderator...
    (Try Whitney's in Leominster MA)
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Note 923.0                    Bearings for outboard                   No replies
AD::GAETZ                                            20 lines  14-OCT-1991 16:31
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    HI,
    
    I am wondering if anyone knows of a
    place where I can get bearings for
    my 1970 Crystler 85 H.P. outboard's
    outdrive ? I bought the boat with
    the motor supposibly seized. It turns
    out the person drained all the gear oil
    out of it and now the bearings have rusted.
    I would appreciate it if someone could
    tell me where I could buy these (All of
    them) and if you have a clue as
    to how much they would cost.
    
                          Thanks,
                            Mark.
    
    DTN 225-5048
    AD::GAETZ
       
850.4Some Possible SourcesMR4DEC::DCADMUSMon Oct 14 1991 19:3926
    
    Most bearings are pretty standard. Get the old bearings out and 
    look up "bearings" in your yellow pages- you can usually get seals
    through these folks, also- and at less than 1/2 of what you would pay
    at your local , friendly, Chrysler dealer.
    
    You can also get bearings through most auto parts store. If they don't
    have them , they will get them from the bearing supply house mentioned
    previously and mark them up for you.
    
    
    Chrysler is now Force outboards. You will eventually need parts 
    that are only available from the factory. The only Chrysler dealer I am
    aware of is the BOAT HOUSE in Warren, R.I. Check your yellow pages for
    FORCE outboard dealers near you.
    
     THE BOAT HOUSE also had lots of "junkers"- and those Chrsler lower
    units from 70-115 HP were pretty much the same-a good used lower unit
    may be the way to go.
    
    Dick
    
    
    
    Dick 
    
850.5BOAT HOUSE in RILEDDEV::DEMBATue Oct 15 1991 11:189
If you need parts for your Chrysler that you can only get from dealer 
try the BOAT HOUSE in Warren, R.I..

When I needed starter parts for a small Chrysler kicker that I have,
they sent the parts to me in the mail. Because I live in central Mass
that saved me a lot of time.

    Steve    

850.6use cautionPENUTS::GORDONTue Oct 15 1991 14:0311
    If your going into the lower unit make sure you know what you're doing. 
    I spent $500 for parts to rebuild my 115 mercury and when it was all
    backtogether I discovered a crack in the housing.  I was really worn
    inside and I only got about 20 hours before it died again.  Went for a
    used unit then.
    
    Fortunely, I had hid a rock which took a blade off the prop and I was
    able to claim the damage on my insurance.
    
    Gordon
    
850.7Another satisfied customerAD::GAETZWed Oct 16 1991 16:2613
    
     Thanks alot for the info.
    
     I called them and they have
    a few of them for around $150.00
    
     I think that's what I'll do.
    It's well worth it. It'll save
    me alot a labor and cursing.
    
    
    				Thanks,
    				 Mark.
850.8Negotiate!MR4DEC::DCADMUSWed Oct 16 1991 18:176
    
    
    Mark: If he has several of them- nogotiate!
    
    Dick
    
850.9West Bend partsGOLF::WILSONThink Spring!Tue Mar 23 1993 14:2617
    Moved by moderator.  (West Bend was the forerunner to Chrysler, and
    now Force).  Also see note 83.   Rick
    
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Note 1048.0                WEST BEND motor part wanted                No replies
KAU104::BROUILLARD "Can the fox outrun the rabbit"   10 lines  22-MAR-1993 16:59
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Hi sailors/fishermen,this notes mainly apply to Canadians, Ontarians.
I have an old 12HP WEST BEND motor that runs fairly good but unfortunately 
parts are getting rare.  The motor has been in the family for quite some time
and it has some sentimental value. 
Would anybody know where I could get part for my engine.  I would be willing 
to buy old motor for parts even if the motor is blown.

Thank you

Pascal
850.10Stalling Chrysler OBAD::GAETZMon Jun 21 1993 21:0424
    Back again with a new problem....
    
    The motor is a ~1970 (I was told by Charlie Whitney last year)
    85 hp Chrysler OB. The problem is that the motor will start fine and
    run well until you try and throttle it up. The more throttle the more
    it skips untill it dies. I pulled the plugs and they were wet with
    fuel. The motor won't restart unless they are dried. The points, wires
    and plugs are relatively new (less than 25 hrs). I checked the point
    gap and timing. Both right on. I also checked to see if it was getting
    a good spark to the plugs. That was OK. One thing that was happening
    prior to this was the motor would idle fine but once in a while it would
    skip/backfire and the motor would stop. I thought it was the points but
    they were right on. I have a feeling it's with the mysterious 'CD' box
    that connects the points to the coil. The service manual states you need 
    special test equipment to test it. I haven't put a timing light on it yet 
    to see if its getting eratic spark when it starts to sputter (the manual 
    show how to set the timing with a test light that's how I set the timing).
    
     Someone said it might be the coil or 'CD' unit ??? Any clues before buying
    a new 'CD' unit and or coil and hope it's the problem ??? Any other 
    trouble shooting ideas ???
    
    Thanks,
    Mark
850.11SWAM2::OCONNELL_RAwandering the westTue Jun 22 1993 00:527
    Check to see if your spark advance is working. Second use the timing
    light to check the firing of each plug, you said they fired fine, but
    if you checked them by spinning the motor over with the plugs removed
    and grounded they may not fire under compression. Third but not that
    remote check that the reeds are okay, if the spring tension is gone the
    reeds "float" and allow fuel to flow continuosly. The CD unit is still
    a possibility. Good luck.
850.1285hp Update...AD::GAETZTue Jun 22 1993 22:5114
    I still haven't had a chance to get up to NH to try the timing
    light on it, but I did have the CD unit & coil checked out at 
    Charlie W. and he said both were fine, had a great spark. He thinks it
    might be the carbs are out of adjustment and flooding it out. Let you
    know what I find out with the timing light.
    
     RE-1. How can you tell if the reeds are bad ? Will it be that obvious
    to tell or are they cheap enough that they should be change since the
    motor is so old ? 
    
    Thanks for the suggestions,
    Will let you know what I come up with.
    
    Mark