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656.1 | good and bad news.. | FAIRWY::WILSON | Moe, Larry, Cheese! | Fri Apr 20 1990 15:36 | 32 |
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HYEND::J_BORZUMATO 25 lines 20-APR-1990 10:43
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If the bend is as slight as you say, take a pair of water pump
12" or longer, and straighten it out. Don't pound on it.
As for the oil leak, what goes out, might come in. oil out
water in. you don't have much choice about the oil leak
it has to be fixed. checking its level may not be good enough.
You might be in for a "major repair" like it or not.
The results of a leak, is the innards will rust, and you
may wind up with a "mega repair". The lower unit case
can be changed, no need to replace the entire lower unit.
There's only one major alignment, and that is the shafts.
If your at all handy, you could do the work yourself,
and have a mechanic do the alignment.
Sorry for the bad news, but them dam rocks just seem to
"pop up".
Funny you talk about rocks jumpin up, a friend of mine has
a 32' Hat-- and this boy is smoking one day, and up comes
a 3/4" sheet of plywood 4'x8', of course he ran over it...
#%&&$##@@##$
Jim.
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656.2 | water pump? | FAIRWY::WILSON | Moe, Larry, Cheese! | Fri Apr 20 1990 15:37 | 15 |
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Jim, you said take a pair of water pump 12" or longer and straighten it
out. I don't know what you mean by water pump, is it a tool and how
does it work.
Do you like my idea about the silicone sealer??
Thanks,
Kevin
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656.3 | Aluminum bends, but it don't bend back | FAIRWY::WILSON | Moe, Larry, Cheese! | Fri Apr 20 1990 15:39 | 24 |
| Kevin,
I think Jim is referring to a pair of 12" "water pump pliers" which
is just kind of a generic name. You may know them as Channel Locks
or some other brand name.
Anyway, from my somewhat limited experience, aluminum will bend in
one direction but usually does not like to bent back. This is
especially true with an aluminum casting. It will crack almost every
time. If you decide to bend the skeg back straight, be aware that it
may crack somewhere near the bend. I wouldn't attempt to straighten
it by hand unless you've got the money on hand to replace the lower
end housing in the event that the casting cracks.
I don't think your idea of the silicone sealer on the drain plug is
a good one. When you tighten the plug the sealer will be squeezed
out, and some will find its way into the lower unit. The stuff never
really hardens when in contact with oil, it just becomes a gooshy mess.
You may be able to stop the oil leak by replacing the nylon washer
on the drain plug. Cost is about $.50 at a dealer. If the drain plug
surface is so distorted that one washer won't seal it, I'd double up
on the washer before using the silicone.
Rick W.
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656.4 | worth a shot | CRONIC::NERKER | | Fri Apr 20 1990 16:56 | 22 |
| Jim being a pro at doing damage to boat gear, let me pass on my
exprience with bending skegs. Having done my last trick two weeks ago
right in the driveway.... take 2 good pieces of wood, 6X10 or
something similar, and with a friend, have him hold one piece
of wood right along the bend of the skeg, applying pressure with a
knee on the opposite side of the bend. With the other piece of wood,
lay it just below the line of the bend on the side where you want
to apply pressure. Then gently hit the wood with a hammer until
you bring the skeg back in line. It may take a couple of shots
in a couple of strategic places...but it works...the trick is not
to hit the metal directly and the back support of wood on the opposing
side.
As for the fill plug leaking, i agree with the new or double washers.
Or if its not too much trouble to take the motor off and lay it
on its side....change your oil...put the plug in with new washers,
clean hole with denatured alcohol, and apply silicon or SEal-all over
the plug and let dry....easy enough to clean off, when you ant to
change oil again....
Bob
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656.5 | wobble wobble shake shake grind grind | YOGI::FYFE | It's easy when you know how ... | Fri Apr 20 1990 18:15 | 10 |
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If you have bent the lower housing enough to affect the shape of
the drain plug hole then you may have altered the centerline of
the lower housing. Only your bearings will know for sure.
Take a good look at how the prop spins making sure that it spins
on a straight axis. If it wobbles in the least you should start
hunting around for a used lower unit.
Doug_whos_skeg_is_also_a_little_banged_up :-(
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656.6 | | SMAUG::LINDQUIST | | Fri Apr 20 1990 20:33 | 8 |
| Was the engine stored in an unheated area which might have
dropped below freezing? If so, I wonder if there could have
been water in the lower unit, which forced oil out when it
froze (and expanded).
If it was stored in a heated area --- never mind.
- Lee
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656.7 | o ring | GIDDAY::BOWMAN | | Mon Apr 23 1990 00:15 | 5 |
| im not sure if this will help but my drain plug has a rubber o ring
around it and this seals really well perhaps this is worth a try
reg
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656.8 | Why do I get them.."After" the owner repairs them? | WFOV12::KOEHLER | They're coming to take the acorns away | Mon Apr 23 1990 11:55 | 8 |
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repair methods:
You guys "crack" me up...:-)
The Mad Weldor....Jim
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656.9 | Teflon Tape? | SALEM::LAYTON | | Mon Apr 23 1990 19:45 | 3 |
| How about teflon tape around the plug threads?
Carl
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656.10 | | LEAF::HESSION | | Tue Apr 24 1990 14:01 | 12 |
| The boat was stored in my heated garage all winter and I did have it
winterized last Oct.
I went to the dealer yesterday and he sold me a couple of washers and a
tube of lower unit oil. He said that if I staighten out the skeg, keep
an eye on the oil level and add the washers that it would be fine.
A lower housing alone costs $250 and the lower unit costs $600.
Thanks for all the help
Kevin
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656.11 | oil leak or normal | CSC32::WATERS | The Agony of Delete | Tue Apr 23 1991 19:34 | 28 |
| I have a question about an oil leak. I just got a 1990 Invader, 15'
with 100 horse merc motor. I've only had it on the water 3 times now.
Also I might add I'm a new boater.
Last weekend I was cleaning it up and lowered the tilt to clean
around where the motor is mounted. (this was not in the water)
The motor is an older merc, 1969 older.
Oil dripped out onto the driveway and it seemed to be coming from
behind the prop. Lower unit oil or just oil build from exhaust?
prop \ |
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/ | / lower unit(?) housing
--/---|___________/
^
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Get the picture ? :-)
Is this normal ? The exhaust is right there too.
Is there a gasket going out ?
There is still two months left on the 90 day waranty. Should I take it
in ?
Thanks for any advice !!!!!!!
Mark
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656.12 | Take advantage of the warrenty | GLDOA::BARTON | I`d rather be snowmobiling | Wed Apr 24 1991 11:16 | 10 |
| If there is time on the warrenty I would take it back. There is a seal
there that could be leaking causing lower unit lube to leak out. Worse
yet water could be getting in.
As a side note fishing line sometimes gets wound up in this area. If
you don`t notice it, it will usually stay wound up around the shaft and
eventually take out your seal.
jeff b.
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656.13 | | CSC32::WATERS | The Agony of Delete | Wed Apr 24 1991 13:16 | 11 |
| Last night I loosened the lower plug, to see if water was in there,
and there wasn't. The oil in the lower unit is clean, but the oil
that dripped out onto the drive way was black/dirty.
Looks like it was just a exhaust/oil build up.
I lowered the motor last night also and will leave it down a day or two
just to see how much leaks out.
re-1 thanks for your reply !
Mark
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