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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1380.0. "Help with DC900Mx and SMF modPMD's" by DRAC::NANO47::SOPENA () Fri Jun 17 1994 13:14

Hi,

we are trying to sell 3 DECconcentrator 900MX to the University of Barcelona to connect 3 CISCO 
routers in three different sites of the city.

The reason why we they want to use them is because CISCO doesn't assure that they can connect 
trough a SMF with 14dB of Power Loss (CISCO says that FDDI can only support 12 dB of Power Loss).

We told the customer that Digital can support till 22dB of Power Loss.

I need answer to this questions:

1.- General questions:

	1.1.- What is maximum power loss for the SMF PMD of the DECconcentrator 900MX?.
	1.2.- Were we right telling to the customer that Digital can support till 22dB of Power
              Loss?.

2.- Configuration questions:

    We proposed this configuration:

                                       To port B of DAS of CISCO router
                                                 |
                                                 |
                                               +-|--------------------------+
                                               | A    M    M    M    M    B |
                                               |MMF  SMF       SMF          |
                                               +------|---------|-----------+
                                                      |         |
                              +-----------------------+         |
                              | 14 dB of Power Loss             |
                              |                                 |
   +--------------------------|-+                               |
   | A    M    M    M    M    B |                               |
   |               MMF       SMF|                               +-----------------------------+
   +----------------|-----------+                                  14 dB of Power Loss        |
                    |                                                                         |
                    |                                                                         |
         To port B of DAS of CISCO router                          +--------------------------|-+
                                                                   | A    M    M    M    M    B |
                                                                   |               MMF       SMF|
                                                                   +----------------|-----------+
                                                                                    |
                                                                                    |
                                                                   To port B of DAS of CISCO router

	2.1.- Is this configuration correct?
        2.2.- Is possible to change port A of the concentrator (1) to port M without
              Hubwatch Software?

3.- DECconcentrator 900MX questions:

    In note 1028 of HUB_MGNT conference there is an explanation of what Part-Numbers we have to
    order for DECconcentrators 900MX with SMF modPMD's. In our proposal we put the Part-Numbers
    separately.

	3.1.- Is possible to order DEF6X-MA, DEFXM-AA and DEFXS-AA separately and install
              all together on site?
	3.2.- Is there any problem to install 2 SMF modPMD's in one concentrator?
	3.3.- Who's got the expertise to install them?

4.- The customer also wants references of similar installations around the world.

	4.1.- Does anybody have any references?.

Any help would be apreciated,
thanks in advance

LLUIS SOPENA @ZQO
DECsite Barcelona (Spain)

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1380.122 dB loss is correct.4371::KIRKtis a gift to be simpleFri Jun 17 1994 20:2924
    Hello,
    
    I can supply answers to a couple of your questions.
    
    The maximum power loss for the SMF PMD of the DECconcentrator 900MX
    is 22 dB. It also requires a minimum loss of 12 dB. Your customers
    cable plant has 14 dB loss, so everything should be fine.
    
    The ANSI SMF PMD is different from our  product in the amount of
    power loss allowed. CISCO seems to be quoting the ANSI PMD figures.
    
    Your questions regarding the topology configuration are better answered
    by others. Paul Koning would be a good source. (KONING::KONING)
    
    The questions regarding the configuration of the DECconcentrator 900MX
    should be answered by the product manager or product engineer. Try
    Karl Pieper (DELNI::PIEPER) or John Iannarone (LEVERS::IANNARONE)
    
    
    Good luck with the sale.
    
    
    Richard L. Kirk
    Optical PMD Engineering
1380.2There are two types of SMF-PMDKONING::KONINGPaul Koning, B-16504Tue Jun 21 1994 16:296
Cisco may be thinking about Type 1 SMF-PMD, which indeed requires lower loss.
Or they may just be confused -- that would hardly be the first time for them!

Our SMF-PMD is type 2, and your configuration is fine.

	paul
1380.3ThanksDRAC::NANO47::SOPENAWed Jun 22 1994 11:256