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Title: Soccer Football Conference
Notice:Don't forget your season ticket.....
Moderator:MOVIES::PLAYFORD
Created:Thu Aug 08 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:608
Total number of notes:85903

298.0. "European Cup Final-26th May" by GVA05::BURKHALTER () Wed May 26 1993 10:40

    Looks like Papin wont be playing against his old club tonight.
    
    All the same AC will have one heck of a side, Marseille dont have
    I reckon as good a side as a couple of years ago when they lost 
    the cup, so it follows that they will probably win 2-1 tonight..:-)
    
    -Dom
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298.1RTOEU::RDELANEYWed May 26 1993 14:0130
    TV coverage starts here (Munich) at 20:00 so I presume kickoff is 
    20:15 
    
    Stadium to have 64,000 (down on normal due to security restrictions)
    
    Also have a video screen in the Olympic Halle (about 100 metres from 
    stadium) and for 10DM (about 4 quid) 8,800 can see the game (and probably 
    hear the 'live' crowd). Might try that myself !
    
    Some facts from the paper about the teams (amounts in Deutschmarks):
    
    	      AC Milan				Marseille
    
    Player(age)     Cost    Salary	Player(age)    Cost     Salary
    ------------------------------      ------------------------------
    Lentini(24)     30m      4.5m	Voeller(33)	 3m	1.5m
    Baresi(34)	     2m	     3.0m	Sauzee(27)	 5m	1.4m
    Van Basten(28)  20m	     3.0m	Pele(28)	 5m	1.4m
    Rijkaard(30)     8m      2.2m	Boli(26)	 8m	1.2m
    Tassotti(33)     1m      2.0m	Deschamps(24)	 6m	1.0m
    Maldini(24)     12m      2.0m	Boksic(23)	30m	800k
    Donadoni(29)     8m      1.5m	Angloma(27)	 4m	720k
    Massaro(32)      5m      1.5m	Desailly(24)	 4m	720k
    Albertini(21)   10m      1.0m	Di Meco(29)	 2m	600k
    Costacurta(27)   5m      1.0m	Eydelie(27)	 1m	600k
    Rossi(28)        3m      600k	Barthez(21)	 2m	400k
                   ----					---
                   104m					70m
    
    - Robin(32)     0m     pittance !!
298.2OM players to be Carpeted if they lose...GVA05::BURKHALTERWed May 26 1993 15:1312
    re: -1
    
    Good grief those salaries are incredible......
    
    I think the kick-off is set for 8.30 tonight.
    
    Last weeks Paris Match had pictures of Tapi with the OM team players
    out on his yacht presumbly to give them a pep talk and show them
    where they'd have to walk the plank if they lost!
    
    -Dom
        
298.3Boksic needs a good agentNEWOA::FIDO_TAin't it great !Wed May 26 1993 16:0717
>    Lentini(24)     30m      4.5m	Voeller(33)	 3m	1.5m
>    Baresi(34)	     2m	      3.0m	Sauzee(27)	 5m	1.4m
>    Van Basten(28)  20m      3.0m	Pele(28)	 5m	1.4m
>    Rijkaard(30)     8m      2.2m	Boli(26)	 8m	1.2m
>    Tassotti(33)     1m      2.0m	Deschamps(24)	 6m	1.0m
>    Maldini(24)     12m      2.0m	Boksic(23)	30m	800k
>    Donadoni(29)     8m      1.5m	Angloma(27)	 4m	720k
>    Massaro(32)      5m      1.5m	Desailly(24)	 4m	720k
>    Albertini(21)   10m      1.0m	Di Meco(29)	 2m	600k
>    Costacurta(27)   5m      1.0m	Eydelie(27)	 1m	600k
>    Rossi(28)        3m      600k	Barthez(21)	 2m	400k
    
    It strikes me that Boksic has been robbed ! Obviously, Marseille rate
    him very highly ( 30m is quite a lot of money to pay for a player ),
    but he isn't on that good a salary comparatively.
    
    Terry
298.4ECCGY4::HAIGHExperientia does itWed May 26 1993 16:5711
    
    	Don't forget Boksic got a cut of the transfer fee! 
    
    	Marseille are on DM 300,000 a man to win tonight, Milan on over 
    DM 500,000 (Information care of the overrated and over-payed author of
    .1 ;-) ). I hope that doesn't ruin the game as a spectacle! I don't
    think it will. 
    	Here's hoping for a cracker between the best team in Europe and the 
    best team outside of Italy. 
    
    		Steve (in red and black tonight)
298.5:-)RTOEU::RDELANEYWed May 26 1993 17:168
    >(Information care of the overrated and over-payed author of
    >.1 ;-) ). I hope that doesn't ruin the game as a spectacle! I don't
    >think it will.
    
    Nah, I don't think they care too much about me to let it upset their
    game............
    
    	- Robin
298.6IRNBRU::BARLOWWed May 26 1993 19:473
    I guess they have Gullit on the bench ?  Looking at the past few games
    a good strategy seems to be to bring on Gullit in the middle of the
    second half.
298.7No Ruud today I'm afraid...CLARID::KREYERAndre KREYER - ValbonneWed May 26 1993 20:256
	This morning Capello has nominated JP PAPIN to be the 'foreigner'
	sitting on the bench... This simply means that Ruud will have to
	watch the game from the stands...

								.Andre.
298.8FERRET::CIOTThu May 27 1993 00:467
How odd it is to see that Papin would not play tonight.
He left Marseille to win an European cup with Milan and now the odd thing for
Papin would be that Marseille win the title.

Alles l'OM.

Thierry
298.9Marseille did it...CLARID::KREYERAndre KREYER - ValbonneThu May 27 1993 01:2914

	Marseille is European champion.....
	
	Score:	1 - 0  Basile BOLI (44')
	
	Great 1st half with loads of action an a couple occasions for both
	Marseille and Milan. A minute before half-time, on a corner kick
	Basile jumps in the middle of 3 player to head home...
	
	Second half was less active with Marseille playing less attacking
	football, trying to contain Milan which was not too inspired...
	
							.Andre.
298.10FERRET::CIOTThu May 27 1993 02:082
woua...Bravo l'OM...
And thank you Andre for the very quick update.
298.11Not quality football reallyAIMTEC::WICKS_AAlphatraz - Coming Summer 93Thu May 27 1993 07:3417
    just back from watching the tape delayed feed here and i must say the
    first 20 or so minutes was great stuff - could have been 2-2 by then
    
    After that it slowed down a bit but Marseille snuck a goal on the
    stroke of halftime from a corner, not much between thw two sides.
    
    the second half was dire - and i'd only had two pints of Bass, but if
    these were the two best teams in Europe we're in trouble guys!
    
    papin came on too late, guillt wasn't even in the squad, where were
    the supposed no 1 team in europe A.C.Milan?? 
    
    Still better than watching baseball....
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
298.12Good stuff.....GVA05::BURKHALTERThu May 27 1993 09:5213
    What an irony, OM two years ago had a great attacking team with 
    Pele, Papin and Waddle, and yet they lost!
    
    This time they learnt their lesson and played the tightest defense,
    especialy in the second half your ever likely to see.
    
    Pele had some great touches, Voller looked well past his
    'sell-by-date'.
    
    Boli scored, and he deserved it.....
    
    Well done OM,
    -Dom
298.13Baresi plays dirty.....RTOEU::RDELANEYThu May 27 1993 12:2214
    Well done Marseille. Good to see the Italians can't buy everything !!
    We went up to the stadium just before kickoff, tickets going for
    300-400 DM (normal price 130 DM) and it looked like some of the touts
    were getting stung (2 mins to go and still tickets left). We went to
    the 'halle' for 10DM and watched the video from a chair with no queues
    for the beer. Although they had catered for 8,800 only about 200-300
    came in (i think they didn't advertise it). Straight after the game
    there were a lot of pissed-off Italians streaming out of the
    stadium.........
    
    So how would Rangers have done against a side with no ideas, although
    Lentini did try a bit ?
    
    - Robin
298.14PEKING::WILSOND1DAVE WILSON @WLCThu May 27 1993 12:2911
    
    I enjoyed it, it wasnt that bad, atleast both sides tried to win the
    game. Well done OM, although they had some lucky escapes in the first
    half. 
    
    It made me laugh, seeing Fabio Capello's comments afterward, going on
    about injuries and putting the "only side out I could"....
    
    Dave...
    
    
298.15ESSB::MCUNNIFFEPool-73,76,77,79,80,82-4,86,88,90Thu May 27 1993 13:3110
      I watched Milan last night and they are not a good side, definately not
in the class of Liverpool when they won their European cups in 1977, 78, 81 &
84. They looked over the top and very ordinary and it was great to see them 
get beaten by Marseilles.


    C U N N O    
    

298.16Longer than Man Utd's Wait...GVA05::BURKHALTERThu May 27 1993 13:389
    Martin, 
            For heaven sake! Do you get paid a commission every time you
         mention Liverpool?
    
         After 38 years a French side has won a European cup, and
    apparantly most French towns, including ones many many miles
    from Marseille were getting very merry.
    
    -Dom
298.17Boli was the ChampionIRNBRU::BARLOWThu May 27 1993 13:4911
    Basile Boli played one hell of a game. Wouldn't be surprised to see him
    in the Milan line-up next year," If you can't beat them Buy them!". 
    Papin moved to Milan to win the cup and got beaten by the side he
    came from ! He obviously didn't leave too many friends behind judging
    from the Barthez incident.  Although shaky at first the OM defense had a
    really good game, Di Meco, Angloma and Boli all played out of their
    skins.  As for Milan, Baresi was solid as ever but Van Basten looked
    like he had not played for a while, Massaro and Lentini got good space
    but never did anything with it. To think that Lentini cost as much as
    Boli, Di Meco, sauzee, pele, Angloma and Deschamps put together is
    ridiculous.
298.18Only one half footballUTROP1::HANSSEN_Jare you serious ?Thu May 27 1993 15:488
    Great first half with exiting and good football. Unfortunately OM
    scored in the end their goal. That meaned a boring second half with the
    dominating team ( Milan) without ideas and with an opponent who
    actually stopped playing. Shame, shame over them ! Football lasts for
    90 minutes ! But result is still the most important in nowadays
    games....
    
    John
298.19At lastTRUCKS::WARDRThu May 27 1993 16:3713
    I agree entirely with .12 - the Marseille team that lost to Belgrade
    was excellent - but the team that lost to Benfica in the semi the
    year before (thanks to "The Hand of God Part II") was equally good.
    However Marseille deserved the title for sheer persistence - they've
    proved their European pedigree over the past few seasons - it's good
    to see it rewarded.
    
    So congratulations to France and Marseille.   Allez Monaco (shurely
    shome mistake ??)
    
    Ray
    
    PS - Gordon - were they dancing in the streets of Antibes last night ??
298.20Lentini is well overated..PEKING::COSSEYNWORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S BACKThu May 27 1993 16:5311
    
    If Lentini is worth 15 million then Gazza is worth 20 million +.
    
    Having watched Milan on plenty of occasions this season he is crap...
    
    Well done Marseille you thoughly desevered the victory. By the way
    did anyone else notice Goebals(sp), he looked as if he had something
    stuck up his arse when he went running onto the pitch to celebrate with
    the players.
    
    Neil...
298.21TAEC::MERRICKSuperstition doesn't have to be wrong...Thu May 27 1993 19:1312
    Re.19 
     Don't know about Antibes, but there was dancing in the streets of
    Cagnes/Mer, plus fireworks and a lot of car horns being thumped. For
    those not of Valbonne, Cagnes is a mere 212km from Marseille. Anyway,
    nice to see the smirk wiped from Papin's face.
    
     According to todays Nice Matin, Voeller is off to Japan, probably to
    be replaced by the Swiss forward Chapuisat. 
    
    Ken
    
    PS - Goethals does quite well for someone aged 72.
298.22For 72 he sprinted no bad !!!MASALA::CDOUDIEWembley '67, We scuddit them !Thu May 27 1993 20:385
    
    Re .20.......Geothals(sp)
    
    maybe his "batteries" were up his........at his age he needs them 8*)
    
298.23KIRKTN::AMILLARAnd some late news just in...Fri May 28 1993 09:1416
    
    I agree with previous notes. The first half was very good and Milan
    should have gone in at half-time in the lead. But it was very strange
    to see them so short of ideas in the second half that they resorted to
    long balls upfield. Milan are not a bad team because of one match, and
    indeed it is good to see that they are not unbeatable.
    
    The final actually had similarities to the 1967 final when Celtic
    became the first Scottish club to win the EC, against the other Milan
    team. 
    
    I don't think Rangers will be far away next season again.
    
    Archie
    unbiased as always.
    
298.24I've got an eight foot white rabbitt that sings BHUNA::JJACKFri May 28 1993 09:2613
    
    Well all I can say is that Rangers would have humped either of them.
    With such silky defenders as John Brown & Dave McPherson, neither teams
    strikers would have got a sniff at goal.
    Wee Durranty would have ran riot in the middle. He's surely worth more
    than Lentini. And as for Van Basten/Voller/Papin/Boli, the couldn't
    lace Super Ally's boots !!
    
    P.S.  Like a previous noter, please excuse my speelin mistooks as I am
          presently writing this with my toes as I am handcuffed to large
          gentlemen in white coats.
    
    
298.25Ducking and divingMIACT::RANKINEFri May 28 1993 21:5010
    
    And Ill have a pint of what JJ is drinking...
    
    all in all it was a reasonable match..good to see those star performers
    from the Klinnsman Scholl of Acting and Diving (Van Basten and Pele)
    trying the odd one or two 3.4 degree of difficulties dives during the
    game.  Ive noticed that since playing in Italy, David Platts diving
    ability has come on leaps and bounds.....
    
    Paul
298.26More MarseilleBSPARK::WARDMon May 31 1993 14:3311
    Continuing the Marseille euphoria rathole alert .. I accidentally
    discovered a video of the previously mentioned Marseille side of
    a few seasons ago.   The game was against Rumania which OM won 2-1.
    The team included Tigana, Francescolli, Waddle, Papin, Germain and
    Moser - none of whom play for Marseille any more.
    
    It appeared this was a friendly match to celebrate Rumania's freedom -
    which would make it about February 1990.   Can anyone confirm/supply
    more details ??
    
    Ray
298.27Took his time speaking out though, didn't he?!VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTROh no! NOT Milan Kundera again!Tue Aug 08 1995 16:3718
    Now, while the Fashanu/Segars/Grobelaar affair is brewing, how about a
    bit more scandal to brighten up your lives? I thought 298 was the most
    appropriate note for this little item which is threatening to throw a
    dark cloud over the reputations of two of Europe's premier clubs (both
    of whom have had their fair share of dark moments in the past).
    
    Jean-Marie Papin, ex-Milan and Marseille centre-forward yesterday
    stated that TWO Milan players took bribes prior to the 1993 Champions'
    Cup Final (which finished 1-0 to Marseille) between the two clubs. The 
    Italian press is already demanding an inquest (well, it's one good way of 
    explaining why Milan lost!) and Papin has rather soured relations with his 
    ex-pals. Spicey enough for you?
    
    To coin a phrase of Stuart's, "spending money is no surefire way to
    spend money".
    
    Dom
    
298.28Milan mafia again ?VNACO1::HERIBERTWed Aug 09 1995 11:4012
J.P.Papin has denied the news of the Italian press.

He never has spoken , Marseille has corupted in the EC final. This has
been a fiction of the Italian, e.g. the "Milan"-press.

Papin: " I'll never speak with any Italian journalist in the future."

We in Austria have become acquainted with the methods of AC Milan, theirs
press and functionaries - I can easy believe that this is a fiction of press
and Papin is more worthy of credit.

Heribert