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| 206.1 | | HAM::SCHARNBERG | This reply is being recorded | Thu Apr 30 1992 10:54 | 18 |
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I have one more category to add:
Teams (e.g. The Blades etc.)
I have some troubles in matching the original names, which I know
quite well, with the nicknames. (OK, Hammers is easy to guess).
Then one more - The *not so friendly* nicknames :
Looney(pool) - Liverpool
The Arse - Arsenal
Boring - Bayern Munich
Downtown - Luton :-)
Heiko
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| 206.2 | cue McGrub...... | YUPPY::PANES | A star-spangled spaniel in the works | Thu Apr 30 1992 12:45 | 12 |
| <<< Note 206.1 by HAM::SCHARNBERG "This reply is being recorded" >>>
> The Arse - Arsenal
> Boring - Bayern Munich
A typo methinks.
Stuart:U.S.M
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| 206.3 | What do these mean? | CARTUN::BERGART | | Thu Apr 30 1992 17:35 | 36 |
| Good idea .1 I'll add teams to the list.
To get things started, I just reread a topic and the following
"foreign" terms came up. Anyone care to give a definition?
Wellied - He wellied it.
Box - He kicked it from the box. (Is this the goal or penalty area?)
Cracker - It was a cracker.
Corker - It was a corker. (Is a corker slower than a cracker???)
Volley - A nice volley. (Isn't that in a different game!)
Injury Time - Scored in injury time.
I can guess most of the above. But, like my quiz questions (topic 9),
I bet there are a few different ideas out there as to the correct
definitions.
Some more obvious, but still "foreign" from an American point of view
were:
Dork - He's a Dork.
Strike - It was a great strike. (We'd think baseball, but
I'm sure you mean kick. But would a header
qualify as a strike?)
And these are just from reading one short topic! Regards,
Jeff-the-ref-(almost)
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| 206.4 | Help is just a note away. | YUPPY::MCCABE | Mike | Thu Apr 30 1992 17:45 | 32 |
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>> > The Arse - Arsenal
>> > Boring - Bayern Munich
>> A typo methinks.
>> Stuart:U.S.M
Your right, Stuart, a glaringly obvious mistake. Not knowing who this
McGrub person is I thought I would correct the error myself.
> The Arse - Arsenal
> Boring - Crystal Palace
Glad to be of assistance! By the way a quick check of the league table
shows that Palace have scored more than 50 goals this season. Does
this mean that Uncle Ron has now installed the goals on top of the
stands? I think we should be told!
By the way, I believe, this total is more than the "Mickeymousers"
have managed. Who would have thought that the "fabulous Anfield machine"
could fail to score less than 250 goals a season! Mind you they have
had their injuries and ...
Mike M
P.S. "Mickeymousers" = Scousers = Liverpool
Uncle Ron = The devil incarnate = Ron Noades (Palace chairman)
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| 206.5 | more words | CARTUN::BERGART | | Thu Apr 30 1992 17:53 | 11 |
| A few more words from this mornings "mail."
Bottle - He's got the bottle.
Relegated - They'll be relegated.
Dosh - He's got dosh.
fx (or CeeFax) man -- The Fx man screamed.
Thanks.
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| 206.6 | A couple of answers | SALES::THILL | | Thu Apr 30 1992 21:14 | 15 |
| Relegation is when the bottom placed teams (varies from country to
country) are replaced by the best teams from the next division lower.
(If we had this in American sports, the Cleveland Indians would have been
relegated so many levels by now tey would be an amateur team by now.)
Bottle is not liquid refreshment, but what we "septics" would call
"Guts" or determination.
Septic = septic tank = rhymes with Yank
There are a whole bunch of expressions like this
Hope this helps,
Tom
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| 206.7 | Colonial Translation service | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Thu Apr 30 1992 21:24 | 42 |
| <<< Note 206.3 by CARTUN::BERGART >>>
-< What do these mean? >-
Wellied - He wellied it.
- gave it a BIG kick up the field.
Box - He kicked it from the box. (Is this the goal or penalty area?)
- Goal and Penalty area is the same thing, yes.
Cracker - It was a cracker.
- A good goal, put into the net in a spectacular fashion.
Corker - It was a corker. (Is a corker slower than a cracker???)
- Same as Cracker.
Volley - A nice volley. (Isn't that in a different game!)
- The ball was struck from a pass without the ball touching the ground
since it left the passer.
Injury Time - Scored in injury time.
Time added on at the end of the half / game for stoppages caussed
by injury / feigning injury and general timewasting.
I can guess most of the above. But, like my quiz questions (topic 9),
I bet there are a few different ideas out there as to the correct
definitions.
Some more obvious, but still "foreign" from an American point of view
were:
Dork - He's a Dork.
Strike - It was a great strike. (We'd think baseball, but
I'm sure you mean kick. But would a header
qualify as a strike?)
Strike = attempt at goal by a player by foot, head, hand
(Maradona) or any other part of the body.
Hope this helps y'all.
jb.
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| 206.8 | More definitions | XSTACY::PATTISON | Tree! | Thu Apr 30 1992 22:54 | 15 |
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> Loads of Dosh
plenty of money.
> fx (or CeeFax) man -- The Fx man screamed.
CeeFax is something you don't get in the US .. its a
computerised information service that you use your TV
for by typing in codes on your remote control.
Maybe its a reference to the editor of the football news page?
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| 206.9 | Terms | CARTUN::BERGART | | Fri May 01 1992 02:25 | 23 |
| Thanks for the definitions!
One point, however, the goal area is NOT the same as the penalty area.
(The Goal area is the small area around the goal posts within which the
attacking team may not take an indirect kick for example).
So, is the "Box" the penalty area (18 yds out from the goal line) or
the goal area (6 yards out)?
New terms I learned today:
"Footie Days" A Day on which a match is played
"Bruver" A male sibling (I think), as in "He's by bruv(er)."
"Clock" To see. As in "He clocked my shirt."
"Boozer" A bar. We use this to describe a person not a place!
So much to learn --- so little time!
Regards,
Jeff-the-ref-(almost)
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| 206.10 | The box........... | ASDG::JOHNSON | | Fri May 01 1992 21:35 | 15 |
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The box refers to the penalty area (18x18x44 as defined from the posts).
You will learn, though they probably never teach you in the USSF course,
that as the ref in a three man system you tell your linesman prior to the
game "I've got the box" meaning that you do not want the linesman signalling
you for a foul in the box that could result in a penalty shot, and as a
ref, I want to control that part of the game - especially since I'm looking
for intent as well as the foul. The goal area just defines the area from
which a goal kick can be taken, and yes, you are correct, no indirects for
the offensive team inside the oppositions goal area.
As a side note - are you taking the USSF course or the MIAA course?
Jerry
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| 206.11 | USSF | CARTUN::BERGART | | Sat May 02 1992 01:00 | 15 |
| re .10
I took the USSF course given by the Mass. Soccer League. The course
was OK, but I think someone should have taken the FIFA Laws and
Interpretations and come up with a nice keyword summary sheet or two.
I plan on making up my own, seal them in plastic and carry them in my
yellow/red card wallet.
Do you ref? What do you suggest for offsides. Do you let the linesmen
signal when someone is in an offside position, or do you only want the
flag to go up when they are offsides?
Jeff-the-ref-(almost) [Once again, this sat., I'll try to
get in my first FULL game!]
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| 206.12 | | R2ME2::HINXMAN | I'll just sit here and rust | Sat May 02 1992 01:20 | 17 |
| > Wellied - He wellied it.
Welly -> Wellington boot, hence kicked
> Dosh - He's got dosh.
Money
> fx (or CeeFax) man -- The Fx man screamed.
fx (more correctly F/X) - abbreviation used in radio and TV scripts
for "effects"
CeeFax - the teletext system carried on the "spare lines" of the
BBC TV signal. The equivalent ITV service is Oracle.
Tony
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| 206.13 | More terms | GOTA1::APPELQVIST | If it don't stink, don't stir | Tue May 05 1992 19:23 | 19 |
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This topic is very educating for someone hwo is trying to write in
english but who's knowledge of football-terms is next to zero. In
another topic i learned that when you pass the ball between the legs of
the opponent and retreive it again, it's called "nutmegged". Now i have
some questions about other terms.
What is it called when the referee drops the ball between two players to
start the game after f.ex. an injury? (Face-off in icehockey)
When a team goes down a division it's called relegation, but what do
you call when a team goes up a division?
When a forward passes the ball over a defender an tries to get it again,
and the defender stops him with no chance to get the ball himself, the
forward is awarded an indirect-freekick, but what is the offence
called? (obstuction, interference?)
Mats
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| 206.14 | Dropballs,promotion and obstruction. | UPROAR::SHORESD | David Shores | Tue May 05 1992 19:28 | 9 |
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When the Ball is dropped between two players it is called a drop-ball.
Teams are PROMOTED when they go up a division, and
The foul is called for obstruction.
DavidS.
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| 206.15 | Free advice............ | ASDG::JOHNSON | | Tue May 05 1992 19:30 | 59 |
| Jeff,
Yes I ref. I do high school, youth (up to U19s) and U23s to over 40s. I
enjoy it very much, though in the last couple of years the abuse from
the players, coaches, and spectators has been on the increase.
As a new ref allow me to give you some free advice........
* once you put on the "blacks" (ref's uniform) you are a marked
man - learn to live with it.
* do not go onto the field with the attitude that you are the
boss of this game and everyone on it will obey you - rather
use liberal application of Law 18 (common sense) - allow the
players to play their game - you just interpret the laws and
enforce them when necessary.
* NEVER EVER allow yourself to get into a discussion concerning
concerning a call during the match. This will put your decision
making at question throughout the game. Blow the whistle, point
out the direction of kick and what type and go.
* minimize the use of the whistle - you needn't blow it for
things like goal kicks, corner kicks, ball over touchline - though
most teams have been coached to play the whistle.
* if you have club linesmen - that is non-registered refs, or even
refs out of uniform, do not let them assist you on fouls or off-
sides. Some leagues require official linesmen and that is a
different story. Calling off-sides in a one man system is very
difficult and you (as we all have) will make many mistakes with
it. Running behind the play you cannot see the entire width of
the field. If you are 110% sure that a player is offside call it.
I don;t use club linesmen since they sometimes do not even know
how to signal when a ball is out of bounds.
* I strongly suggest that you DO NOT carry any kind of aid to refer
to the rules or interpretations thereof. If someone sees you pull
that out and read it during/before/or after a match you will have
lost all credibility and the coaches and players will be all over
you. If you are not sure of the laws you shouldn't be going out
onto the field. You'll be fine - the first time is more nerves
than anything.
* before issuing a card, yellow or red, make sure that it will buy
you something back for the match. Don't issue cards just to issue
cards. Issuing a red card is serious and takes guts - make sure
it is justified. Don't abuse the cards.
* there was once a list of how to assess your game - some of them
are:
1. did you break a sweat during the match?
2. did you get any of the players to smile during the match?
3. did you interfere or get in the way of a play?
4. did a player or coach come up to you and say "good game
ref" at the end of the match
There was a fifth one that someone else might remember,
if you can answer yes to all five you had a great game!
* make sure you are in regulation blacks with badge. Present yourself
as a professional.
* eventually during a season you might be assessed. Listen to your
assessor and learn. They are there to help you.
Good luck on Saturday. Where are you ref'ing and what age group?
Jerry
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| 206.16 | Self analysis form | MIACT::RANKINE | | Wed May 06 1992 16:14 | 4 |
| I have an FA referees checklist/self analysis form. I can copt it and
send it if youre interested.
Paul
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| 206.17 | See note #143. for ref "stuff" | CARTUN::BERGART | | Wed May 06 1992 18:31 | 4 |
| That would be nice. Why not post it in note #143. (The men in black).
Thanks.
Jeff
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