Conference trucks::football;1

    Jose,
    
    I'm already booked to be in the u.K (Uncle Ken found some money for
    my airfare) between Dec 17th and Jan 5th. 
    
    If you manage to time the trip for then how about the great Liverpool
    at Tottenham on Dec 18th, the incredible Liverpool at QPR on Dec 26th
    or even the absolutely stupenduous Liverpool knocking some team or
    other out of the F.A Cup 3rd Round on Jan 4th.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
                                           

    I would LOVE to go to London for a weekend (or longer) and catch a
    match or 2 while there. When I was a full-time employee, one of my main
    goals was to justify to my bosses why I had to travel to the UK or
    Europe for my job. I almost got a trip to Reading about 2 years ago,
    but that fell through. At that time one of my main job-related contacts 
    there is a Hibs suporter, but I think I could have talked him into seeing 
    whoever was playing in the area. 
    
    My wife and I have this silly goal to get a house in the next year or
    so while prioces in the area are still low(er than they used to be), so 
    I somehow don't think she'd go for the idea of a soccer weekend in the 
    UK. One of these days I'll make it over there, hopefully before too 
    long....
    
    Have a great time if you go
    
    Tom

Altough (SP?) I'm not from the States but from Holland just want to let you
know that I will be in London from the 12th till the 15th of December and
planning to see the Chelsea v Man Utd games on Sat the 14th.

T_

    Re -1
    
    Andrew,
    
    Unless things pick up up at Anfield, the 'Great, Incredible,stupendous'
    Liverpool, will be a great dissapointment to you. They are at present a
    shoadow of their former selves, unless you are like most 'Pool
    supporters and think anything that wears the red (with white diagonal
    stripes over one shoulder) walks on water.
    Paul

    If Liverpool can't provide you with a class act to enjoy then how
    about coming along to see Sheffield Utd at West Ham on December 21st !

    
    As a Spurs supporter you couldn't go wrong seeing a game there.  Either
    win or lose, Spurs will offer the best entertainment of them all.

    Ref: .1
    
    Andrew, Cheap faires are not available during the holiday travel
    period, 12-Dec - 05-Jan. I think it would be a nice to plan a trip
    for early Spring when the race for the trophies gets hot. It would 
    also gives us plenty of time to get tickets, etc. As in one of the
    replies in this topic, other noters in Europe may join-in and make 
    this the second-best football weekend anyone has ever had.
    
    JC

    Re. previous couple,
    
    I appreciate all the concern from fellow noters about my choice of
    games but as I followed Liverpool regularly across the country from
    the late 70's until last christmas I fell I need to see them during
    my brief visit to the country - you can rely on me for an unbiased
    trip report (:==:)
    
    Re. 7,
    
    unfortunately the dates for my trip are set as I have to visit my
    'home' group before DEC in the u.k shuts down from about Dec 24th to 
    Jan 2nd. 
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    
    "Before DEC in the UK shuts between Dec24 and Jan2"
    
                I WISH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
                                  Doogz

    If you guys go ahead with this idea, be careful about booking match
    tickets too far in advance. Your chosen match could get switched to the
    Sunday by the tv company at relatively short notice (2-3 weeks) which 
    might mean you won't be able to see it due to your return flight time.
    

    Liverpool are at home on New Years day... Against the glorious Blades.

    >    Liverpool are at home on New Years day... Against the glorious Blades.
    
    	'ere Pagey! Why would he want to go all that way to see a relegation
    battle?

    We'll be in the top 10 come Christmas... Just you wait 8-)

    
    	re .12.....
    
    	Steve, which side did you have in mind as the "relegation
    	candidates" ? 8-)
    
    	Andy.

    Since there is no interest in a football week end in London,
    You may delete this topic, Mr. moderator, and save disk space.
    
    JC
    

    Is anyone interested in a football weekend/week somewhere in Europe in
    the Spring? 
    I was also thinking perhaps we could put together a DEC-US team and
    challenge our European  friends and co-workers to a friendly match.
    
    1) Its cheaper than a weekend at Cape Cod or a ski resort.
    2) Choice of matches from several countries.
    3) We can challenge our European friends and co-workers to a match.
    4) You (Those that are married) have plenty of time to think of
       a good excuse to leave the wife behind, if you so choose.
    
    As a bonus, if we choose England, we may even get to meet, and play
    against, TGC.
    
    Additional attractive possibilities:
    
    American Airlines: Round-trip Air, Boston-Manchester, for only $419.
                       Nothing else included. Holiday period travel
                       restrictions apply. Also, can not travel on
                       Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Must stay at least
                       one weekend. Maximum stay of 1 year. Must book
                       reservations 21 days in advance.
    
    There are also very inexpensive tickets available to Holland and 
    Germany. Significant price increases after 15 March.
    
    Note: Rumor has it (Travel magazine) there' a new Air price-war on the 
          horizon that will pit British Airways (through an American Airliner 
          they own, I think its Northwest) Lufthansa, KLM and Swiss Air 
          against each other all trying to gain market share in the very 
          lucrative US/Europe market. This could mean even better deals ahead.
          And, don't forget DELTA. If the courts award them the old PAN AM
          routes to Europe we'll see even better deals.
    
    Depending on the number of people interested I may be able to get us
    hotel and rental cars at bargain prices.
    
    If you're interested you need not make a commitment, financial or
    otherwise, at the moment. Just send me mail or reply to this topic.
    I'll compile the names, shop around for the best deal and keep everyone
    informed.
    
    JC

	re .114

>    Note: Rumor has it (Travel magazine) there' a new Air price-war on the 
>          horizon that will pit British Airways (through an American Airliner 
>          they own, I think its Northwest) Lufthansa, KLM and Swiss Air 

	In this case, rumour is almost certainly wrong. Unless U.S. law
	has been changed in the last couple of months, it prohibits the
	foreign ownership of U.S. airlines and shipping companies.

	Tony

    I'm not certain about the arrangements. But whatever they are,
    from what I read there is some kind of a joint venture whereby
    BA and a domestic carrier will be cooperating in US/Europe market.
    As I recall, The US carrier will fly passenger from everywhere in 
    the US to BA' US hubs for connecting flights to Europe and viceversa.
    Both carriers will accept tickets sold by the other and schedules
    have been closely coordinated. same applies to rental cars, hotels,
    etc.
    
    I'll try to find out more if there's a bargain to be found and post it
    here.
    
    JC

    Maybe we can challenge _Ton's "Citta Della Duomo" team, and after we
    stuff them, we can drink all their Grolsch! :-) :-) :-) etc.
    
    Tom

    
    
    RE: -.1
    
    Yeah, I could go for that...;->
    
    F.
    

                       <<< Note 114.19 by GEMVAX::HILL >>>
                                   -<  :-) >-

>>    Maybe we can challenge _Ton's "Citta Della Duomo" team, and after we
>>    stuff them, we can drink all their Grolsch! :-) :-) :-) etc.
    
>>    Tom

Tom,

your on and it will be easy to stuff us as there only will be two of us
in London next month. If you want to drink our Grolsch just come to Holland
but beware you'll probably go home feeling sick, not from the beer but from
the silly prices we charge for such a great beer :-) :-)


T_

    
    
    What do you mean, Ton?  I thought losers bought the beer for the
    winners...we would have no need to find out the price of the brew..;->
    
    Cheers.
    F.
    

   <<< Note 114.22 by 3D::FGZ "Federico Genoese-Zerbi -- Flamingo 2D DDX" >>>
           -< You should see Grolsch prices this side of the pond! >-

    
    
>>    What do you mean, Ton?  I thought losers bought the beer for the
>>    winners...we would have no need to find out the price of the brew..;->
    
>>    Cheers.
>>    F.
    

You are completely right but than you will belong to the loosing side :-)

T_

    
    Ton  stick it to them...
    
    
    The Albion would give you guys a thrashing
    
    8-)
    
    Andy   

    
    - Its starting to look like we can get a team together for a
      Spring-time trip and match. In the next 2 weeks I'll post
      here the different packages available to England, Holland, 
      Germany and Belgium. We can then choose a site, make plans, 
      and start training to STUFF THE EUROPEANS in their own backyard. 
      (In the event of snow we can always give them a good stuffing
      indoors).
    
    - Ton, is it a deal? LOSERS BUY THE GROLSCH and, lets not forget:
      THE ICE!
    
    So far we have: 4 people interested 
                    2 considering it (one in not a DECcie)
                    
    And, chances are, Wales' favorite son from Georgia, Andrew, will have 
    a hard time passing this up. 
    
    If you read this topic, play football and/or like Grolsch, and are
    interested in a fun trip to Europe, lets have your name.
    
    JC
    
    

rep -1

JC,

Just say the word and the Citta will be more then happy to entertain you
with a match in Holland and certainly loads a Grolsch.

If you want to play in England get in touch with Andy Mitchell, his Albion
team is always in for the odd match.

BTW As already mentioned I will be in London from 12 till 15 dec but be
aware I will invade England again in january (9 till 13), the place will
be Birmingham and I'm sorry to say it won't be football but dogs this time
(Crufts 1992)

Tada,

T_

    As I said, I've been keeping an eye open for Euro deals and here is
    by far the best to date:
    
    Portugal for $289.00, round-trip air. Nothing else included.
    Offer good from 15 january to end of March.
    
    I wouldn't mind going with a group of people to see Benfica play
    in either a league match against Porto or Sporting or for one of the 
    upcoming Euro matches. How about vs Sampdoria?
    
    Here I have a good connection and know for certain I can get good
    seats. Any takers?? Send mail.
    
    I'll continue to keep my eyes open for a spring-time bargain to Europe.
    
    JC

    Delta just became the latest airliner to offer $149.00, one-way, 
    fares to all its international destinations. Delta is also safer then
    TWA as there little chance of them going out of business. I'll check
    again with you noters after the holidays to see if we can get a team 
    together to stuff the living daylights out of our European counterparts 
    somewhere this Spring. So far i have 5 male and 1 female in the
    INTERESTED LIST. I'll be in touch....
    
    JC

	re .29

>    fares to all its international destinations. Delta is also safer then
>    TWA as there little chance of them going out of business. I'll check

	TWA have just sold their remaining routes into London (from Baltimore
	and Philadelphia) to US Air.

	Tony

    LAST CHANCE. TICKETS MUST BE PURCHASED BY 15 JANUARY TO GET THESE
    LOW PRICES:
    
    - Lisboa    $298 
    - London    $299
    - Milano    $318
    - Amsterdam $318
    - Paris     $318
    - Brussels  $318
    - Frankfurt $318
    - Munich    $318
    
    JC