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33.1 | Pre Season Games | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Aug 08 1991 19:55 | 86 |
| Welcome Back to the 'New Football' conference ...
A larger than normal note, due to the conference being in 'File not
found' status ...
United lost 1-0 in Tokyo on Monday, to a disputed penalty scored by
Carlos Alberto. United came off 2nd best on the plastic surface of
the Tokyo dome, and were watched by a 40,000 crowd. United pressed a
lot in the 2nd half, but couldn't score. Bottofoga were good on the
break, and United finished the stronger side. The return meeting at
Elland Road on Friday should be interesting - United won't lose 1-0
that night ! Chapman gave the Bottofaga (Brazilian and South American
Champions no less) defence and goalie some bad moments, it appears
the Japanese ref. gave a little too much protection to the Bottofoga
goalie - wait till Friday !
Shizuko Makagawa writes in the Match Day Program in Tokyo :-
Leeds United (England) is a very strong soccer club in England. From
1960 to 1970 the club was strong enough to be afraid of all European
team.
In 1962 the last foot soccer team manager Mr Don Revi opened up the
way of the greatest club.
Main titles were acquired by him who had appointed in the
representative manager in England in 1974. In those days the players
consists of representative of the England, Scotland Wales, North
Ireland with captain Mr Brenam. For the short period they were the
2nd class league but last year they ranked first class league after 8
years in the 2nd class. Since then this team ranked higher in class
and they got 4th rank within their 20 England team last year.
This time this team is directed by MF Stroken, 34 years veteran and
very good for dribble and he played two times at the world cups both
in Spain in 1982 and Mexico in 1986 as representative to Scotland.
Also Mr Makaristar, who joined this year and also representative of
Scotland is going to make the game in the middle of the game. At the
forefront very tall forward, Mr Chapman become a post and give a
precaution to the other team. He is high score man in England league
this year.
Cap that Lunchtime O'Booze !!!!
Tonight (Wed) United take on the mighty Halifax in the WRSC with
their 2nd and youth XI, so Halifax are fancying their chances. A
United XI beat Glasshoughton 3-0 last night (Tuesday), Mel Sterland
played 30 minutes, his first outing after his double hernia
operation. Hodge still has an injury, he will have to fight to get a
place in the team, Speed is the likely person to make way, but if he
plays well, he will keep his place. Competition for all places will
be strong next year. A strong squad is necessary if a serious go at
the championship is to be undertaken.
Saturday sees United at Huddersfield Town in the WRSC, their 3rd game
in 4 days, and then the big game of Div. 1 at Palace next Saturday.
(Thursday)
United 0 Halifax Town 2 !!!!
Well, it was United's 3 rd team, but Halifax played well and took
their chances, I hope they do better in Div. 4 this season than last.
Of the United players on display, Snodin, Williams, Whitlow, Davison,
Varadi, Wallace and Kerr were known to me, the others were ???
Sterland came on with 30 mins to go, and then Leeds looked a little
better. Davison was substituted after 44 minutes for kicking a
Halifax player - silly boy ! Both Halifax goals came in the 1st half,
a poor clearance led to the first after 15 mins, and a free kick
needlessly given away by Kerr after 35 was converted by a long haired
Shayman.
From what I saw last night - Kerr is hopeless, Wallace is too small,
especially in long grass, the ball almost knocked him over, he's a
bit slow and can't control the ball over well, Sterland is short of
match practice, but hopefully has got over his hernia operation.
The pitch was in good order, but the grass was tripping Wallace and
Snodin up, the new SE stand looks good. The capacity for the
Bottofoga game is 25,000 or so, the SE stand is not quite ready, and
some work is being done on part of the Lowfields terracing.
jb.
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33.2 | Fixtures 1991 - 1992 | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Aug 09 1991 13:51 | 63 |
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Here's the fixture list.
Sat 17 Aug Crystal Palace a
Tue 20 Aug NOTTINGHAM FOREST H
Sat 24 Aug SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY H
Wed 28 Aug Southampton a
Sat 31 Aug Manchester United a
Tue 3 Sep ARSENAL H
Sat 7 Sep MANCHESTER CITY H
Sat 14 Sep Chelsea a
Wed 18 Sep Coventry City a
Sat 21 Sep LIVERPOOL H
Wed 25 Sep League Cup R2 L1
Sat 28 Sep Norwich City a
Sat 5 Oct SHEFFIELD UNITED H
Wed 9 Oct League Cup R2 L2
Sat 19 Oct Notts County a
Sat 26 Oct OLDHAM ATHLETIC H
Wed 30 Oct League Cup R3
Sat 2 Nov Wimbledon a
Sat 16 Nov QUEEN'S PARK RANGERS H
Sat 23 Nov Aston Villa a
Sat 30 Nov EVERTON H
Wed 4 Dec League Cup R4
Sat 7 Dec Luton Town a
Sat 14 Dec TOTTENHAM HOTSPURS H
Sun 22 Dec Nottingham Forest a
Thu 26 Dec SOUTHAMPTON H
Sat 28 Dec MANCHESTER UNITED H
Wed 1 Jan West Ham a
Sat 4 Jan FA Cup R3
Wed 8 Jan League Cup R5
Sat 11 Jan Sheffield Wednesday a
Sat 18 Jan CRYSTAL PALACE H
Sat 25 Jan FA Cup R4
Sat 1 Feb NOTTS COUNTY H
Sat 8 Feb Oldham Athletic a
Wed 12 Feb League Cup SF L1
Sat 15 Feb ASTON VILLA H
(FA Cup R5)
Sat 22 Feb Everton a
Sat 29 Feb LUTON TOWN H
Wed 4 Mar League Cup SF L2
Sat 7 Mar Tottenham Hotspurs a
(FA Cup R6)
Wed 11 Mar Queen's Park Rangers a
Sat 14 Mar WIMBLEDON H
Sat 21 Mar Arsenal a
Sat 28 Mar WEST HAM UNITED H
Sat 4 Apr Manchester City a
Sat 11 Apr CHELSEA H
Sun 12 Apr League Cup Final
Sat 18 Apr Liverpool a
Tue 21 Apr COVENTRY CITY H
Sat 25 Apr Sheffield United a
Sat 2 May NORWICH CITY H
Sat 9 May FA Cup Final
jb.
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33.3 | Aha here it is ! | COMICS::PARSONS | Anyone got a turquoise tracksuit ? | Fri Aug 09 1991 13:59 | 3 |
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Well new conference, new season, new trophies for the cabinet ?
I'll put my predictions for the new season in after tonights game.
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33.4 | Brazilian Skills on Display | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Aug 09 1991 14:01 | 17 |
| HW was interviewed on Radio Leeds this morning, and was saying that the
2 games against Bottafogo have been / will have been very useful for
the team, playing in a strange stadium against a very skilful side -
it's preparation for Europe next year ...
The team should be near full strength tonight, Lukic, Fairclough,
Whyte, Sterland may get a run out in the 2nd half, Dorigo, McClelland,
Speed, Batty, Strachan, McAllister, Shutt, Chapman, Wallace, Hodge is
still injured. Subs from Snodin, Varadi, Davison, Williams and Day.
Tomorrow, there is a trip up the M62 to Leeds Road, to play
Huddersfield Town in the WRSC. Halifax Town are presently leading this
competition, by virtue of scoring more goals, all teams have 6 points -
each half counts as a game, and there are an extra 2 points for the
winner of the whole game ...
jb.
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33.5 | Xfer Xfer read all about it. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Aug 09 1991 16:54 | 5 |
| The latest bit of transfer gossip is Gordon Durie for 2.5 million.
Does the panel agree that transfer fees have gone silly ?
jb.
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33.6 | | TOTH::CHAVES | | Fri Aug 09 1991 16:59 | 6 |
| Ref: .1
Botafogo are not the South American champions. That honor belongs
to Colo-Colo Chile.
JC
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33.7 | | YUPPY::MCCABE | Mike | Fri Aug 09 1991 16:59 | 8 |
| Does the panel agree that transfer fees have gone silly ?
Yes. Over two million for Keith Curle and only 1.7 million for Paul
Parker seems ludicrous (and 1.2 million for Cascarino! Liam you need
you head examined). It seems that if a first division player is
transfered the starting price seems to be a million!
Mike M
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33.8 | Pre season games / Crystal Balls | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Aug 12 1991 13:35 | 49 |
| United 2 Bottofoga 1
A very entertaining game, United going 1 up courtesy of Gary Speed
after 10 minutes, and 2-0 thanks to Chapman, who gave the Brazilian
defence a hard time. Batty and Bottofoga's star No 7 (name ?) were
booked, and B's No 7 got a lot of stick - for the Brazlian superman, he
was cr*p (probably been drinking & $%^&ing the women too much ...).
Strachan missed a penalty on 7 after Chapman had been mugged in the
penalty area. Leeds played some really good football, stringing 12
passes together without the Brazilians touching the ball, this
frustrated them no end !
Dorigo looked good, Wallace had flashes of excellence - it looks a
strong team. Sterland came on with 1/2 an hour to go, Chapman is going
to have a good service this season, and Wallace will be around to pick
up other stuff, McAllister, Speed and Strachan will be pushing from
midfield, as will Hodge and Batty - it all looks set for a good season.
Reserve & Youth team news :-
Huddersfield 1 United 0
A scratch United side lost to Huddersfield (div 3 promotion contenders)
in the WRSC on Saturday. Sterland had another run out, and could be in
the reckoning for a place against Palace. Other injury news is that
Kamara is coming good, Shutt is still in hospital (his knee is
infected), Hodge makes progress (I hope he will be able to play, and I
hope United have not brought a cripple), Haddock is still injured. I
expect Wilko will make an offer for a striker soon in the season if the
goals are not flowing, but it's a matter of seeing what's available and
at what price.
5 days till the kick off, United are down for an away win at Palace in
some Pools guides. The start to the season is hard, Palace, Man U,
Arseanl and Liverpool are played in the first 9 games, we need to get
results against the likes of them to improve on 4th place. Leeds have
got one of the strongest squads in the 1st Division, the forthcoming
season offers a lot of promise. League title ? - Leeds are not yet at
the same level as the Arse or Liverpool, they are a little behind Man U
in cup experience, but overall they are better than the other teams in
Div 1 this season. The Arse, Liverpool and Man U are all involved in
European competitions this season, so they may take their eyes off the
League (well Liverpool and the Arse, Man U aren't a title contender
really), as well as the domestic cups - so increasing the probability
of Leeds getting some silverware this season.
Interesting times await ....
jb.
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33.9 | Leeds Supporters Club in Ireland | GALVIA::SPAIN | Parker for England | Mon Aug 12 1991 15:42 | 5 |
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Anybody got any info on the Irish branch of the Leeds United supporters
club? I think it's based here in Galway.
Gary.
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33.10 | Pre Season Prediction | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Aug 12 1991 19:24 | 8 |
| Prediction for Saturday (as I'm out of the office till next Tue, moving
you see) :-
Palace 1 United 3
Wright 37' Chappo 12', 56'
Wallace 88'
Optimistically, jb.
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33.11 | Eagles wings clipped?? | WELSWS::CADD | | Tue Aug 13 1991 12:56 | 5 |
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I will be going to the Palace v Leeds match on saturday so if i find
the time i will try and give an unbiased match report. Well you've got
to please the 'sowff laaandeners' phoenetically speaking that is.
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33.12 | who said anything about originality??? | YUPPY::PANES | Woke up, muzzled the dog, went to work | Tue Aug 13 1991 13:04 | 8 |
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I will be going to the Palace v Leeds match on saturday so if i find
the time i will try and give an unbiased match report. Well you've got
to please those from 'ooop t'north', phonetically speaking that is.
Stuart
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33.13 | | KERNEL::WATTERSON | I wasn't pushed - I jumped | Tue Aug 13 1991 13:07 | 5 |
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There's some doubts that saturday's game will go ahead - the ground
botch-ups... errrr improvements may not be completed on time.
Paul
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33.14 | Don't buy your ticket yet !!! | COMICS::PARSONS | Anyone got a turquoise tracksuit ? | Tue Aug 13 1991 15:07 | 4 |
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Paul beat me to it, but Palace may have to call off their first
two home games because they haven't finished ground improvements.
A decision on the games will be taken tomorrow.
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33.15 | Groinstrain for sale??? | WELPUT::NELSON | stick the ECU where it belongs | Tue Aug 13 1991 18:21 | 6 |
| How can anyone justify 2.5 million for groinstrain (Durie to you)?
How serious an offer is this, or is it paper talk?
Also, will Leeds finally get serious and let a decent amount of away
fans in this season...Last season was a joke!!!
Mn.
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33.16 | C Palace P0 W0 D0 L0 F0 A0 Pts -2 | COMICS::PARSONS | Anyone got a turquoise tracksuit ? | Wed Aug 14 1991 15:17 | 4 |
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Oh well. No game on Saturday. Paint hasn't finished drying at Selhurst
Park. It would be useful if the League deducted a couple of points
off Palace. Might help at the end of the season.
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33.17 | Not quite true... | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Ayrton Senna - World Tour 1991 | Wed Aug 14 1991 17:35 | 8 |
| The *real* reason that the matches are off is that the closed circuit
TV in the new police control centre is not fully working. The ground is
fine.
digustedly yours
Paul
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33.18 | Whay not play at Leeds now, and Palace later ? | COMICS::PARSONS | Anyone got a turquoise tracksuit ? | Wed Aug 14 1991 17:55 | 6 |
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Leeds suggested that the game be played behind closed doors but
the Football League refused. HW was not impressed. Should make
for an interesting game when they do finally meet. Another alternative
would have been to play the reverse fixture at Elland Road, I don't
know why no-one suggested this.
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33.19 | Aldershot friendly? | PANIC::QUINLESS | Martin Quinless SWAS London UK | Thu Aug 15 1991 17:52 | 7 |
| I read today in the paper that Leeds are to play Aldershot in a
friendly tomorrow night instead! Anyone got anymore details on this?
The good news was I got a ticket for Saturdays game the bad news its
not on!
Martin Q
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33.20 | Retire the lot of em. | WELPUT::BWALKER | Come on you Hatters. | Thu Aug 15 1991 19:26 | 15 |
| Mind you I would like to highlight the flexibility of the football
league fixture computer.
Luton requested no home games early in the season in order to give the
grass a little more time to bed down.
What do we get West ham away, and then two home games. Thankfully
Coventry agreed to Luton's request to switch respective fixtures.
Crystal Palace and Charlton as they are sharing requested likewise.
What do Palace get. Home to Leeds first day of the season.
What do Charlton get Home to Millwall Tuesday.
Thanks Footy League for being so flexible, understanding and down right
predictable. If it common sense then do the opposite.
Regs Barry.
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33.21 | | DUCK::JAMANIS | | Thu Aug 15 1991 20:38 | 7 |
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I understand that Leeds have are 12/1 to win the Championship.
They are behind Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United!
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33.22 | snodin | DUCK::JAMANIS | | Tue Aug 20 1991 14:32 | 6 |
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Oldham have signed Snodin on a one month loan.
S
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33.23 | Entertaining the Mighty Shots .. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Aug 20 1991 15:27 | 26 |
| Leeds United 3 Aldershot 1
Well, instead of going to Sarff Lunnun and getting 3 points, we had to
make do with a visit from the mighty Shots - the game was played in
good humour, and the crowd was about 4,000, about average for a Central
League match. The first team were playing, Hodge coming on for Speed,
and Sterland for big John McClelland, who has had a good pre-season,
and is useful cover. McAllister, Chapman and Wallace scored.
The Crystal Palace cock up showed how poor the League are at running
their own affairs, and also showed up the ineptness of the ground
management at Selhurst Park - a docking of points and a hefty fine is
neccessary. Cancelling the fixture on the Tuesday before the kick off
is ineptitude of ther highest order.
Forest are the visitors to the 33,500 capacity Elland Road tonight,
Hodge and Sterland are passed fit, I expect them to be subs, as they
are a little short of match practice, McClelland and Speed will start I
think. It will be a close match, Sheringham will have to be watched,
but Parker is absent, Forest will miss him. Let's hope Wallace and
Chapman run rings round Tiler, and McAllister, Strach, Speed pick up
anything that's loose.
Prediction - 3-1 to United.
jb.
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33.24 | Crystal ball gazing | COMICS::PARSONS | Anyone got a turquoise tracksuit ? | Tue Aug 20 1991 15:46 | 31 |
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The 'good' news about tonight is that Des Walker will not be playing.
Without him Leeds' forwards should have a good night.
As for the whole season, I think a realistic target is 3rd in the
league (which would guarantee us a place in Europe) and a trip to
Wembley (hopefully in a serious cup competition). I don't think
Leeds are quite good enough for the league title ... yet.
As for the other clubs, it will be Liverpool's attack or Arsenal's
defence that will probably win the league. It is more open than it
has been for quite a while. Man Utd will do well in the league
initially, but when we reach March/April with them still in the
Cup Winners Cup and FA Cup their league form will fade as usual.
Crystal Palace finished 3rd last season, but have not significantly
strengthened their squad so they could be a little disappointing
this time around. Forest and Spurs will finish comfortable in the
league and have a cup run or two. Everton are still rebuilding, it
will take Howard Kendall at least another year to get a good side
together. Teams to struggle are Coventry, West Ham, Luton and possibly
Wimbledon. I'd be surprised if more than two of those four stay up
(assuming promotion/relegation will still be allowed come May).
As for Europe, well I think all four clubs will reach the last eight.
After that we will have to wait and see. If Arsenal reach the league
stage of the European Cup then George Graham has said it will take
priority over the League Championship, this is where Leeds and Man Utd
could get a chance of the title.
Of course Leeds could lose 5-1 tonight and I will be bombarded with
mail from a certain Everton fan.
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33.25 | | YUPPY::PANES | Geese Control to Geese Leader 1 | Tue Aug 20 1991 16:08 | 15 |
| > The Crystal Palace cock up showed how poor the League are at running
> their own affairs, and also showed up the ineptness of the ground
> management at Selhurst Park - a docking of points and a hefty fine is
> neccessary. Cancelling the fixture on the Tuesday before the kick off
> is ineptitude of ther highest order.
I agree it is a cock-up of titanic proportions, but lets get the record
straight. Originally , Palace asked for a fixture against a team with
less away supporters and less of a reputation. This was denied. Then
Plod came into to play . It was THEIR control room which was not ready
and it was at THEIR insistence that the fact that the game was going to
be postponed was kept quiet.
Stuart
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33.26 | Hmm | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Aug 20 1991 17:56 | 17 |
| re -1
Hmm - double cock-up points to the League & Plod - but nobody from
Selhurst park got in touch with leeds - they learnt about it from the
BBC !
re -2
3rd will be a good position - HW is on the record of saying Leeds
United are not as good as Arsenal (yet), and they showed last season
that man U had more 'big match' experience - Leeds will get this as the
season wears on, and if they are right behind the leaders (or leaders
themselves), they stand a chance of a crack at the title, but hopefully
the Arse and Liverpool (possibly Man U) will have one eye on Europe and
may let the league slip a little.
jb.
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33.27 | ZDS Cup draw | COMICS::PARSONS | Anyone got a turquoise tracksuit ? | Tue Aug 20 1991 18:09 | 6 |
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Leeds have drawn Nottingham Forest at home in the 2nd round of the
ZDS Cup. The game will be played sometime in October. After last
seasons cock-up with two semi-finals in 3 days I'm surprised we
even bothered entering (Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and Man Utd did
not bother).
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33.28 | | KERNEL::WATTERSON | Everton Everton rah rah rah | Tue Aug 20 1991 18:12 | 6 |
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Tony,
have Everton entered again ? - if so any idea who they're playing ?
Paul
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33.29 | ..............nil points | YUPPY::PANES | Geese Control to Geese Leader 1 | Tue Aug 20 1991 18:35 | 31 |
| <<< Note 33.26 by BAHTAT::BLYTHE "Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill" >>>
-< Hmm >-
re -1
> Hmm - double cock-up points to the League & Plod - but nobody from
> Selhurst park got in touch with leeds - they learnt about it from the
> BBC !
Jb,
I thought my previous note explained that it was Plod who said "Don't
tell anyone". I believe that the Palace were only "allowed" to release
this information on the Wednesday.
Now, I know that a lot of people will look at the Totts fiasco a couple
of years ago. But Palace will probably lose thousands on this one
( even without a fine ), because after last season's placings it had
"Big Fixture" stamped all over it, now it will probably be reduced to
a midweek winter's night , probably when B.R are on strike and the M1
is reduced to a skating rink.
Oh well.
Stuart
BTW I had a call this morning from a M*FC "supporter" who claims
that as they are top of the League they will definitely end up
Champions. Isn't it a shame when cousins marry.
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33.30 | No trip to Wembley this year ... | COMICS::PARSONS | Anyone got a turquoise tracksuit ? | Tue Aug 20 1991 19:23 | 9 |
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re: back a few
Everton have entered Paul. They are in the 2nd Round draw with a
home game I think but I can't remember who against.
...
Just checked for you. It's Oldham at Goodison.
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33.31 | ZZZds | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Aug 20 1991 20:14 | 3 |
| I was under the impression Leeds had not entered the ZDS this year.
jb.
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33.32 | HW, ZDS Cup and Secret(ive) Police | COMICS::PARSONS | Anyone got a turquoise tracksuit ? | Tue Aug 20 1991 20:28 | 6 |
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I thought HW was so mad with what happened last season they had told
them to get stuffed, but apparently not (unless they forgot to tell
the organisers - now who else do we know that don't inform people
about postponed football games, clue: ello ello, what do we have ere
then ? no control room ! your nicked sonny !)
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33.33 | The story so far. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Sep 12 1991 13:33 | 33 |
| As all has done since 20 Aug, summary so far :-
1-1 vs Sheff Wed home (Hodge)
1-0 vs Forest home (McAllister)
4-0 vs Soton away (Speed 2, Strachan 2)
1-1 vs Man U away (Chapman)
2-2 vs The Arse home (Chapman, Strachan)
3-0 vs Man City home (Dorigo, BATTY, Strachan)
Leeds are now in 4th place, and have some easy games , Chelsea a,
Coventry a, Liverpool h, Norwich a, Palace a coming up, 10 points out
of these will be a major acheivement, and keep us up there.
Highlights of the season so far have been to 4-0 demolition of
Southampton - Soton are having a mixed season, but 4-0 away is a hell
of a good score. Strachan has scored 4 times this season, all from the
penalty spot - he hasn't missed one yet. Leeds were 2-0 down to the
Arse, and then picked themselves up off the floor, aided and abetted by
the Elland Road suppoer. The Arse were lucky to come away with a point
- shades of the Liverpool game last year. Manchester City were soundly
beaten 3-0. We were leading Man U 1-0 3 mins before the end of the
game, but Robson equualised.
Lowpoints of the season so far are to do with injuries, Fairclough was
injured vs Soton, and will be out till the beginning od October,
Wallace was injured against Man City, he has a tear in a muscle in the
groin area, and will be out for 6 weeks at least, he should be back in
contention by November. Kamara is on the way to recovery, as is Shutt,
who had an outing vs Blackburn Rovers reserves in the Pontin's league
on Tuesday night. Haddock is also on the road to recovery.
jb.
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33.34 | More snippets. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Sep 12 1991 14:05 | 56 |
| The biggest highlight so far this season was BATTY SCORING against Man
City - his first goal in 160 games since Man City on Boxing Day 1987.
The Kop went wild !
Batty and Dorigo played for England last night, the first time 2 Leeds
United players have played for England for 11 years (Cherry and
Greenhoff were the last pair). Strachan played as Scotland's captain,
and by all accounts took over as coach and manager in the 2nd half.
McAllister was in the squad, maybe he was sub (not used). Speed played
for Wales.
I also went to a meeting of the Football Supporters Association in
Leeds on Mon, Alan Roberts, the Leeds Admin manager was giving his
views on the proposed Super League, the Bradford City Admin mgr was
also there.
It appears the Super League is a device of Tottenham, the Arse, Man U,
Liverpool and Everton as a first step towards a British League, and
then a European Super League. The rest of the First Division are being
pulled along in the wake of it all. The only people getting benefit out
of this are the lawyers. Current fees will cost each club in the league
50,000 pounds so far ....
The support is also really appreciated by the players, Dorigo is
overwhalmed by it, and it is worth a goal start away as well as at
home! 2000 travelled to Southampton, and 800 Arse supporters made the
easier trek to Leeds. Sterland was reported to be livid with Sunderland
lastyear when only 500 tickets were issued to Leeds supporters, he
played a blinder and scored the winner. The players also get annoyed
whwn they see Leeds supporters coaches stopped by the Plods - it makes
them more determined to win. Roberts also said Wilkinson REALLY wanted
to win something this year. Contrary to other reports, he was 'totally
gutted' by missing out on a Wembley appearance last year - after the
Everton game, the whole team went back to the hotel and got totally
wrecked - not a usual occurence by the way ! All Leeds players have a
clause in their contract that commits them to 7 hours community work a
week, on the transfer side, many of the players that have been linked
to Elland Road 'would not have got in the car park' due to their off
field commitments and activities. Sheridan was disposed of by Wilko
because of this, he was often in the Viaduct pub on Lower Briggate at
6.15 on a Saturday match night, starting off a Saturday night binge.
Roberts also touched on the fact that football could start to price
itself out of the market, he pointed to 1,000 empty seats at Elland
Road - #17 is too much, some way od giving a limited number of tickets
to schools / youth groups is being investigated. The Lowfields
redevelopment will start this summer, it is hoped the Lowfields
terracing may be retained during this work, else the capacity will go
down to 24,000 - not enough ! When the rebuilding work is finished, the
capacity of Elland Road will be 40,000, all seater. The problem of
making the Kop all seater will be dealt with after the Lowfields
redevelopment, ground capacity could be made too small if they were
done at the same time.
jb.
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33.35 | Hang on a minute! | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Grrreat.....Soopah | Thu Sep 12 1991 15:00 | 9 |
| re . 33
>> the Arse were lucky to come away with a point
True. But were'nt you lucky that we did'nt bury you in the first half?
A draw seemed fair reflection from what I recollect being said in here
a week ago. Ooohhh you're not getting away with it that easy. :-)
Barry.
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33.36 | Keep it tight at the back | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Sep 12 1991 16:04 | 26 |
| To bury a team, you need to get the ball in thae back of the net, it
was done only once in the first half. A second came along, then Leeds
started to play, and came back very strongly, the Arse just clinging
on.
I'm afraid this particular Arse isn't keeping it tight at the back ...
As for what was said a week ago (a long time a week is!), is there
documentary evidence m'lud ;-)
The Arse have made a poor start and need to pull their socks up.
However, come November, I expect Div 1 to have Leeds, Liverpool, The
Arse and the Mancs separated by 2 or 3 points, and for it to stay that
way, with the Mancs fading out towards the end of the season. The
championship is wide open this year.
Chelsea away on Sat, this is an all ticket match, but a lot of
supporters haven't realised this, and ticket sales were only 15,00 the
other day. Leeds have sold 4,000 of their 7,000 allocation up to Wed
pm. Leeds normally take 5-6,000 away with them to Saturday matches. A
win would be good, Chelsea are the top London team at the moment, so it
won't be easy. A 2-1 win for Leeds is todays prediction.
I'll put team news in whan I hear of any.
jb.
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33.37 | Commercial news | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Sep 12 1991 16:12 | 18 |
| The Admiral deal has opened more doors to Leeds United on the
commercial side. Currently English Footballs' hottest property, Leeds
have to build on their success last season, they must win something /
make a major impact else the hot money will go elsewhere. The Japanese
connection is growing, it is expected that Sony will have their logo on
Leeds' shirts next season. Negotiations are underway to show live
matches on US cable TV, before the World Cup, and Satellite companies
in Europe have sogned up to show live Leeds games. Money is always a
problem, a lot was taken in seasons, but this does then give rise to a
cashflow problem later in the season, so TV money is all important.
For league games, 150,000 is the going rate, with more from
advertising. Villa made 1 million when they played (Inter Milan ?) last
season, Leeds want to be a part of this - success is necessary. The
Mancs have done English football a favour - there will be 2 UEFA cup
places up for grabs this year. (Thank you the Mancs). One of these will
be for Leeds at least !!
jb.
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33.38 | Cup time cometh | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Sep 12 1991 17:46 | 21 |
| Forthcoming Cup games involving Leeds United are :-
Wed 25 Sep, away at Scunthorpe in the 2nd round 1st leg of the
Rumbelows Cup. Leeds United to progress 1 round further than they did
last time, ie to the final, and win it. The 2nd leg is at Elland Rd on
Tue 8 Oct, ko 7.45. Scunthorpe beat Leeds in the 2nd div dark days in
the FA Cup. This is not expected to happen this time ! Incidentally,
Scunthorpe play in a new stadium, it was used for the England U21 game
earlier this week.
Tue 22 Oct at 7.45 sees Forest at Elland Road in the ZDS cup.
Originally, Leeds were not going to enter, due to them having to play 4
matches in a week last season, 2 of them being ZDS games. Apparentley,
they have received assurances from the powers that be that this will
not be the case this time round. We shall wait and see. This won't be
an easy game, it will be interesting to see what teams HW and Ole Big
Head send out. My guess it will be the reserves. It is also live on
Satellite (Skysport I think).
jb.
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33.39 | Team / Marchin Altogether | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Sep 13 1991 13:34 | 22 |
| As Wallace is out for 6 weeks, it is likely that HW will play Speed as
a striker with Chapman, and Hodge will coem into midfield and start a
game for the first time this season. John McClelland will continue to
partner Chris Whyte in the centre of defence, subs will be Wetherall
and Varadi / Davison.
For those in the UK, there was an interesting programme on Black
players in football - Great Britain Uninted on C4 last night. There was
an appreciable amount of exposure to Leedfs United, and Ces Podd, a
community development officer at Elland Road was interviewed, as were
Chris Fairclough and Chris Whyte. There is also a group of fans that
produce 'Marching Altogether - Leeds United fans against Racism', which
started in 1987. Like all clubs, Leeds has it's fair sghare of fans who
just abused black players, that is now a thing of the past at Elland
Road. There were interviews with 3 of the people from MAT, 2 of whom
are active in the FSA in the West Riding.
Ron Noades came across as a real pratt - I heard (from the MAT lot)
that Wright and Bright put transfer requests in after hearing Noades'
remarks...
jb.
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33.40 | A Palace Fan writes | YUPPY::PANES | A heart of gold and a knob of butter | Fri Sep 13 1991 13:53 | 39 |
| <<< Note 33.39 by BAHTAT::BLYTHE "Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill" >>>
-< Team / Marchin Altogether >-
> Ron Noades came across as a real pratt - I heard (from the MAT lot)
> that Wright and Bright put transfer requests in after hearing Noades'
> remarks...
Agreed - Noades is a pratt. I can't believe that Wright/Bright would
have put in transfer requests though, because they must have already
known that Noades is an intellectual dwarf ( I hope am not sounding
'dwarfist').
Wright and Bright ( and the other black players at Selhurst ) do not
and have not ever received any abuse from Palace fans. Similarly, apart
from a few dorks ( and which club hasn't got them ), I have never heard
any racial abuse at the Palace ( although I did call Erik Forcefed (sic)
a Quisling once).
Palace had, in Vince Hillaire , one of the first of a handful of black
players to gain prominence, and I think that probably halted the rise
of the racist scum, who followed the club.
Also at Selhurst there are quite a few black spectators ( no not the
players McCabe ), and I am happy to be associated with a club that
attracts a cosmopolitan following, but to re-iterate somewhat shamed
to be associated with Noades.
Fair play to Leeds for tackling the problem ( they used to be the N.F's
number one team for racist chants ) and I like the signs that they have
put up.
The one thing that disturbs me about the Policing, is when is an animal
noise offensive , and can the police discern the difference between
racist, antagonistic noises and the sound of good old fashioned braying?
Did I mention Palace are playing Arsenal tomorrow?
Stuart
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33.41 | no racism at Goodison | KERNEL::WATTERSON | Nightmare on Sesame St | Fri Sep 13 1991 13:58 | 12 |
|
re .40
re that prog on telly
Stuo -
did you noticed that Everton - that supposedly well known racist
club - were praised for their attempts to stamp out racism at
Goodison ?
paul
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33.42 | We'll make Cleasea hurt tomorrow where it counts on the scoreboard. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon DTN 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Sep 13 1991 19:05 | 6 |
|
Prediction for tomorrow. Win 2-0. We are good against sides who we beat the year
before i.e double over Chelsea last season. Keep up the good work Lukic and
you might even get noticed eventually by Taylor.
James.
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33.43 | 2-1 to Leeds hopefully ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Sep 13 1991 19:43 | 5 |
| I can see tomorrows game vs Chelsea to be tight, so I am going for a
2-1 win for Leeds, with the strong possibility of a 1-1 draw. A win
will set us up nicely for Coventry on Wed, and Liverpool on Saturday.
jb.
|
33.44 | NICE WEEKEND | MACNAS::SMORAN | | Fri Sep 13 1991 20:28 | 6 |
| Sorry to ruin your weekend.
Chelsea 2 0 Leeds
Stephen
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33.45 | Leeds go 2nd | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Sep 16 1991 13:01 | 26 |
| Chelsea 0 Leeds 1
An excellent 3 points away from home, Shutt getting the goal on his
comeback, that makes it 6 goals in his last 7 games, as he had a
scoring streak at the end of last season, before his 'incident' in
Sheffield. A typical Leeds goal, Strachan- Batty - Sterland -
McAllister - Speed - Shutt - goal, the ball starting in midfield, out
to the right flank, into the middle, headed on to the left flank,
cross, header in at far post. Chelsea had more of the game in the first
half, and Leeds scored against run of play, but they kept going and
came out winners. Wise had a goal disallowed for offside, and Dorigo
(who had an abusive reception from the Chelsea lot) cleared off the
line. Strachan came off with 10 mins to go, he took a knock, and Hodge
deputised.
Leeds are now 2nd in the table, 5 points behind the Mancs (good away
win at Soton for them Sat), with a game in hand. The 'Diving Scousers'
are 3rd, a lucky draw for them, after a Rosenthal Dying Swan Impression
got them a penalty. Elland Road will be watching for cheating antics on
Saturday. Coventry City (away Wed) continue to impress, in our last 4
games, we have played 4th, 2nd, the Arse (waking up at last, 4-1 away
is an acheivent), and Top. Our next 2 games are vs 4th and 3rd - a hard
start, but points taken from these teams opens up a gap. The Mancs and
us are the only unbeaten teams in Div 1 - how long can this be kept up?
jb.
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33.46 | Don't you just love Radio 5 !!! | COMICS::PARSONS | Hemisphere Change - 16 days | Mon Sep 16 1991 13:40 | 7 |
|
I was driving back to Basingstoke on Saturday listening to Radio 5
when they announced Shutt had put Leeds 1-0 up. Then with 10 mins
to go Radio 5 announced Chelsea had equalised (oh dear I thought !).
Then would you believe 5 mins later they announced they had jumped
the gun and it was still 1-0 ... I don't know how I kept the car on
the road :-)
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33.47 | Great Win but more to come | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon DTN 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Mon Sep 16 1991 13:47 | 14 |
| Great Win on Saturday, shows we can now take on anybody and win. Listening to
the reports Saturday on BBC5 where they made a very uncharacteristic mistake
of announcing that Chelsea had gotten an equaliser. Some over zealous reporter
I suppose. It made the win all the better thinking that we had lost it. Took
them over 5 minutes to admit their mistake!
Coventry on Wednesday. Seem to be playing all the big teams at the same time.
Whats going to happen during Christmas play all the teams in the bottom 5.
Anybody got anything on Strachan i.e he going off quickly after taking a corner
with back trouble?
James.
|
33.48 | Strach / Rumour mill | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Sep 16 1991 14:40 | 8 |
| Strachan took a knock, but it is expected he will be OK for Wednesday
ay Highfield Road. HW was saying at the weekend that his current squad
was stronger than the one that finished 4th last season, a bit obvious
really, but HW usually keeps his thoughts to himself. Latest rumours
concern the possible transfer of Tony Agana/Brian Deane from Sheff Utd,
as they have dire financial problems.
jb.
|
33.49 | Fine performance!! | SUBURB::PRATTJ | | Mon Sep 16 1991 17:25 | 19 |
|
Strachan took a knock??? It looked like he was just a bit tired, he
wasn't limping at all and Steve Hodge was warming up for quite a while
before he came on.
Leeds showed they were a class apart from Chelsea, Batty/Strachan
closing down the midfield well, leaving Chelsea the only option but to
thump up long balls which were easily contained by Whyte. On the attack
they put together some promising moves stringing passes all over the
field.
Bad point about the game, Chapman missed a sitter after a cross was
headed down by Shutt, that would have sealed the game and not put us
through the tension of the last 10 minutes.
P.S. Does anyone have the address of the supporters club, as it's not
easy getting tickets for the games down south, we had to sit quietly in
with the Chelsea fans!!!
|
33.50 | Chealsea at it again. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Sep 16 1991 19:58 | 15 |
| I notice that after Saturdays gave vs Liverpool, Leeds will have played
8 out of the top 10 div 1 sides (as of now), the exceptions being
Tottenham and Leeds themselves. The Mancs have played Leeds United out
of the current top 10, Liverpool haven't played many of the top 10
either. Now, if this form keeps up ...
A pal of mine was at the Chelsea game on Sat, apparently there was some
trouble on the Tube as Chelsea fans ambushed Leeds supporters at
Parsons' Green Tube station. Services were held up for 45 minutes or
so. There was nothing in the papers, so I assume it was caused by the
Chelsea nutters. There's no love lost between Leeds and Chelsea, and
Chelsea have been beaten 3 times on the trot by Leeds, 2-1 and 1-0 in
London, and 4-1 at Elland Road.
jb.
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33.51 | Don't blame the Chelsea "BLUES!!!" | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Tue Sep 17 1991 00:52 | 28 |
|
jb,
I was there at the game also on saturday and went for a drink
afterwards in a bar/restaurant down the road opposite Fulham Rd tube
about 5.45 p.m.
There were a lot of Leeds/Chelsea fans wearing colours in the place
discussing and disecting the game, there was no trouble at all until
about 50 police decided to raid the place.
They were offensive in asking people to finish their drinks and leave
their meals. In my opinion this sort of attitude is more likely to
upset people than deter them, which is what i suspect the police were
trying to do. who are the real instigators of trouble ???.
On a different subject I got a letter from the ticket office saying
that they are giving priority for Scunthorpe tickets to fans who went
to the Southampton game so mine should be here by saturday.
Coventry on Wednesday I shall be there traffic permitting. The sky
blues have started quite well this season but a win there will be
necessary to keep the pressure up on Man U who don't have a midweek
league game this week.
P.C.
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33.52 | Police attitudes sometimes do not help | COMICS::PARSONS | Hemisphere Change - 16 days | Tue Sep 17 1991 13:25 | 21 |
|
re: police attitudes
I've come across obnoxious policemen causing trouble at several
football grounds. Although I can sympathise with all the aggro
they get, they do sometimes make it worse for themselves with
their moronic attitude. Not all football fans are yobs. I saw
the police actually cause a mini riot at Coventry a few years
ago.
Coventry had as usual won their last game of the season to stay
in the 1st Division and the fans as usual had 'invaded' the pitch
and were singing and dancing on the pitch. The next moment a group
of mounted policemen charged into the fans ! There were so many on
the pitch the horses backed off and in doing so trampled on some
handicapped fans in their wheelchairs at the touchline. Most of
the ground saw this and a lot more people invaded the pitch intent
on grabbing the leader of the mounted police. They did in the end
manage to pull him off his horse. The next day the local newspaper
gave the police a real slagging off starting a slanging match with
the local police chief.
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33.53 | Wednesdays team news | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Sep 17 1991 13:45 | 19 |
| PC Plod usually starts trouble, otherwise what's the point of turning
out to police a lot of well behaved people ? Anyway, there's overtime
for dealing with disturbances. My pal was at the Tube, he saw what was
going to happen, and scarpered fast.
Sterland is doubtful for Wednesday's game at Coventry, he sprained his
ankle at Chealsea. Strachan has a dack injury, but is expected to play.
Fairclough has almost got over his ankle injury, it is possible he may
return against Coventry, John McClelland will then play at right back
instead of Sterland. Hodge and Wetherall are likely to be on the bench
(again).
Both the Mancs and Liverpool are playing European games this week, it
gives leeds a chance to get within 2 points of the top, and 4 points
away from 3rd place. Now, if we beat Liverpool on Sat, Luton get a
point at OT, and the score isn't 4-4, then we go top...
jb
|
33.54 | What a time to leave the country. | COMICS::PARSONS | Hemisphere Change - 9 days | Tue Sep 17 1991 14:16 | 7 |
|
It's good to hear that Fairclough is almost fit. We'll need him
on Saturday.
Leeds beating Coventry and Liverpool, and Man Utd drawing with Luton;
while almost an impossibility would have me leaving the country with
Leeds top !
|
33.55 | Chelsea saturday, Coventry tomorrow | SUBURB::YOUNGA1 | | Tue Sep 17 1991 18:12 | 9 |
| Greetings,
Does anyone know when the Crystal Palace match has been
re-scheduled for? A friend and I hope to get to the game.
Cheers
Dust Th'ippy
|
33.56 | Coming to a ground near you soon ... | COMICS::PARSONS | Hemisphere Change - 9 days | Tue Sep 17 1991 18:13 | 3 |
|
I think Jon Blythe said a few notes back it was Oct 1st (fortnight
today).
|
33.57 | Coventry tonight | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon DTN 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Wed Sep 18 1991 12:43 | 10 |
| Another tough game away ay Coventry and my prediction is we won't lose! Very
commital statement but I can't make up my mind as to whether we will win or not.
Coventry are playing well and a draw for us wouldn't be disasterous i.e 0-0.
Leeds drew 1-1 last season at highfield.
A win would of course be a bonus but we can't expect to win every game (-;.
James.
|
33.58 | Sent to Coventry. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Sep 18 1991 19:14 | 14 |
| Strach will play, he's got over his back injury. Sterland awaits a late
fitness check. If he doesn't play, then big John McClelland will go
right back, and Wetherall will start, Fairclough isn't yet fit. Hodge
and Whitlow are the likely subs.
More xfer rumour, Bull and AN Other from Barnet are reported to be the
targets of a 1/2 million bid by Wilko.
I'll be happy with a 1-0 win in injury time - I think they can do it,
but it will be tight. The 3,000 or so travelling supporters will make
more noise than Coventry though ! I predict a hard-fought 1-0 win to
Leeds.
jb.
|
33.59 | Good enough Draw but! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon DTN 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Thu Sep 19 1991 13:05 | 9 |
| Well my prediction of sorts came to pass. Not a bad result and still unbeaten
but I understand that Chappie missed a good chance near the end to win the game.
Roll on Liverpool. Hope that Jon Blythe was at the match because we will then
get an unbiased report of what actually happened at the game. No Leeds injuries
last night that I understand!
James.
|
33.60 | Sent to Coventry! | SUBURB::PRATTJ | | Thu Sep 19 1991 15:32 | 26 |
|
Three of us went up last night and saw the game, all agreed that it was
two points lost, rather than a point gained but then these things
happen!
Gary Speed took a clattering knock in the first three minutes that he
was limping from for a few minutes but seemed to run it off for the
rest of the game, but it was a scare!
Coventry wasted a number of chances from free kicks, crossing about
three of them out for goalkicks, but put pressure on midway through the
second half and tested Lukic a number of times. Another disallowed
goal, the old offside trap certainly keeps you on your toes!
Another good performance from Leeds, created numerous chances around
the penalty box, Chapman and Shutt played up front, but both seemed to
lack pace. Hodge came on with 15 minutes to go inplace of Shutt, with
Speed taking over up front. Cheeky Free-kick by Strachan, chipped the
wall but fell just to long for Chapman. Chapman had a free header but
just put it passed the post with ten minutes to go.
Would tell you more but we had eight pound seats that gave a great
worms eye view of the game! Still four points from two away games is
not bad especially with easier fixtures coming up after Saturday.
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33.61 | Liverpool to get beat. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Sep 20 1991 13:33 | 28 |
| The first Nil Nil of the campaign, but Leeds sould have had 3 points. I
wasn't at the game, but I was listening to the commentary on Radio
Leeds. Chapman missed a couple of chances, and Lukic had a good game -
he was the MoM accoriding to the Evening Post. Speed sprained his ankle
after falling over the ball, but should be fit for Saturdays sell out
vs Liverpool. All 32,720 tickets have been sold, so the crowd will be
over the 32,000 mark - there are always several hundred no-shows !
The build up fot the Liverpool game has started, Leeds have not beaten
Liverpool in their last 22 meetings - tomorrow will be the day !
Liverpool did not look too brilliant vs the Finns in the 1st half, but
then the Finns fell apart. Their defence isn't too clever, but Rush ans
Saunders will need watching. I wonder what sort of reception Sourpuss
will get - his players better not try on their cheating antics at
Elland Road - especially if they are a goal or 2 or 3 or 4 down. The
team should be that which started against Coventry.
We are now 4 points behind the Mancs, with the same no of games played
- but ours have been against the Top (bar Soton) teams, and the Mancs vs
the Bottom teams (bar Leeds United), this puts us in good stead for
our less difficult October and November, Norwich a, Palace a, Sheff U
h, Notts C a, Oldham h, Wombles a, QPR h, Villa a, Everton h.
The Cup trail starts at Glanford Park, Scunthorpe on Tuesday in the
Rumbelows Cup, not a walkover - it will be The Iron's Cup Final ...
jb.
|
33.62 | List of players for this season. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon DTN 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Sep 20 1991 16:55 | 48 |
| Name Height Prev Club Birthplace Birthdate
Goalkeepers
Mervyn Day 6-02 Aston Villa Chelmsford 26-06-55
Neil Edwards 5-08 - Aberdare 05-12-70
John Lukic 6-04 Arsenal Chesterfield 11-12-60
Antony O'Dowd 6-02 Shelbourne Dublin 06-07-70
Defenders
Tony Dorigo 5-10 Chelsea Melbourne 31-12-65
Chris Fairclough 5-11 Tottenham Nottingham 12-04-65
Peter Haddock 5-11 Newcastle Newcastle 09-12-61
John Mcclelland 6-02 Watford Belfast 07-12-55
Jon Newsome 6-02 Sheff Wed. Sheffield 06-09-70
Mel Sterland 5-10 Rangers Sheffield 01-10-61
Ray Wallace 5-06 Southampton Lewisham 02-10-69
David Wetherall 6-03 Sheff Wed. Sheffield 14-03-71
Michael Whitlow 5-11 Witton Alb. Northwich 13-01-68
Chris Whyte 6-01 W.B.A London 02-09-61
Midfield
David Batty 5-07 - Leeds 02-12-68
Simon Grayson 5-11 - Ripon 16-12-69
Steve Hodge 5-11 Notts For. Nottingham 25-10-62
Chris Kamara 6-01 Stoke Middlesbrough 25-12-57
Dylan Kerr 5-11 Shepherds Valletta 14-01-67
Gary McAllister 5-10 Leicester Motherwell 25-12-64
Glynn Snodin 5-06 Sheff Wed. Rotherdam 14-02-60
Gary Speed 5-09 - Harwarden 08-09-69
Gordon Strachan 5-06 Man Utd. Edinburgh 09-02-57
Andrew Williams 6-00 Rotherdam Birmingham 29-07-62
Forwards
Lee Chapman 6-03 Notts For. Lincoln 05-12-59
Bobby Davison 5-08 Derby Co. S. Shields 17-07-59
Gary Kelly - - - -
Carl Shutt 5-10 Bristol City Sheffield 10-10-61
Imre Varadi 5-08 Sheff Wed. Paddington 08-07-59
Rod Wallace 5-07 Southampton Lewisham 02-10-69
Hope it is of interest to somebody out there.
James.
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33.63 | Liverflukes to get their come uppance tomorrow at long long last. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon DTN 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Sep 20 1991 17:00 | 9 |
| Tomorrow will confirm Leeds as serious challangers for the title with a
resounding defeat of the 'Pool. I expect them to win 2-0 or 3-0. Leeds have
been waiting a long time for this and will relish it fully. No repeat of the
performance last April going 4-0 down before realising the 'Pool defence was
extremely fragile and look what happened then.
We won't make that mistake tomorrow!!
James.
|
33.64 | Davison on his way. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Sep 20 1991 18:01 | 6 |
| Bobby Davison has gone to Derby on loan for a month , with a view to a
permanent trabsfer. This would be his 2nd stint with the Rams.
Leeds to beat Liverpool tomorrow.
jb.
|
33.65 | 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon DTN 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Mon Sep 23 1991 13:04 | 6 |
|
Yes, I have waited a long time to see Leeds bury 'Pool and we certainly did that
on Saturday. Yesterday Liverpool, tomorrow the world.
James.
|
33.66 | It was 18 years ago today ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Sep 23 1991 13:16 | 41 |
| Leeds 1 Liverpool 0
Leeds deserved to win this game, even the use of Ronnie 'Dive Dive
Dive' Rosenthal in the last 15 mins didn't do anything for Liverpool,
whose defence looked shakey, midfield lacked punch, and the strike
force were out of sorts. Leeds did not play to the level they have
reached previously this season, some of the play was edgy - bearing in
mind this was the biggest match they have played in the last few years.
The atmosphere at a sell out Elland Road (32,917) was electric, and the
noise that greeted Hodge's goal on 25' was amazing. Strachan forced a
corner, took it on the right, a poor punch by Grobbellar found Dorigo,
he turned, crossed to Hodge who hammered it into the roof of the net.
Chapman had an effort cleared off the line by Tanner, Strachan had a
shot that was brilliantly saved by Grobbellar, and there wer other 1/2
chances to Chapman and Speed. Speed was playing as a striker, not his
normal role, and was replaced by Shutt. McClelland and Whyte held firm
all afternoon, and the Leeds midfield controlled tha game. Batty almost
gave away a goal whwn he was caught in possession by Saunders, but the
shot was easily saved by Lukic.
Souness was warned by the ref, the sooner this fool is banished to the
stand the better - he incenses the crowd and one day may cause
problems. Plod also told him to sit down and shut up. Grobbellar is a
clown - his poor clearance led to the first goal, as did Walter's
dithering, Brucis also nearly lost the ball to Shutt outside the area,
he made a wild clearance that gave McAllister a clear shot at an empty
goal - he shot over.
So, Leeds have played most of the top teams in Div 1, Norwich a are
ext, they are 10th this morning, another hard game, then it's away to
Palace - who seem to be fading rapidly, Wright and Bright seem to want
off, no doubt annoyed by Noades. The Mancs thumped Luton 5-0 on Sat,
the Totts are 3 points behind with a game in hand, but they have had an
easy start so far. October will be interesting, when the other top
clubs start playing one another and Leeds play lesser teams - wins for
us and draws for them.
Away at Scunthorpe on Tue night in the Rum Cup, I predict a win by 3-1
or something.
jb.
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33.67 | From a very happy Man Utd man... | TRUCKS::SANT | | Mon Sep 23 1991 15:17 | 8 |
|
Well done Leeds (Leeds Leeds) for putting one over on the 'pool.
Nice to see George "Liverpool" Courtenay finally having the balls
to tell Sourpuss to stop inciting riot, and Ronnie "Klinsmann"
Rosenthal failing to con another ref. When was the last time Leeds
beat Liverpool ?
Andy.
|
33.68 | | KAOFS::G_LARKIN | dtn 621-4091 | Mon Sep 23 1991 17:20 | 3 |
| I believe it was 1973.....when they also won the championship.
Gerry
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33.69 | No Peno for the Pool | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Mon Sep 23 1991 17:22 | 4 |
33.70 | Scunthorpe tonight. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Sep 24 1991 13:10 | 15 |
| Tonight's team vs the iron will be the same that started against
Liverpool. A result and a good performance is expected tinight - a poor
perfornmance may lead to a player losing his place in the team - there
is competition for all places now, as it should be in a squad system.
The victory over Liverpool lifted the 18 year hoodoo, but it was also
the first victory since United came back vs The Arse, The Totts,
Liverpool and the Mancs - teams that have got to be beaten if Leeds are
to progress. Players are now proud to pull on the Leeds United shirt
etc etc.
A prediction for tonight is 4-0, hopefully Chapman will rediscover his
scoring touch !
jb.
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33.71 | Rumbelows tonight. vs the Scun. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon DTN 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Sep 24 1991 16:07 | 6 |
| I expect a tight game tonight as this is a big game for them. Remember Leicester
this time last year. Important to win all the same but much tighter than JB
predicts, 2-0 maybe. Chapman needs the shooting practice as does Shutt. More
importantly no injuries tonight!
James.
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33.72 | Nil Nil | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Sep 25 1991 13:09 | 13 |
| Scunthorpe 0 Leeds United 0
Not a win - but another clean sheet. Leeds United are 'clear
favourites' for the 2nd leg at Elland Road in a fortnight. Scunthorpe
played well, it was their Cup Final, thay hit the bar, and were a
handful. Leeds had their moments, but all in all, a 0-0 scoreline was
about fair. Strachan went off injured after 43 minutes, and McAllister
was given the job of captain for the rest of the game.
The crowd was 8,800 or so, almost a sell out. The crowd will be approx
14,000 at Elland Road on Tuesday next.
jb.
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33.73 | TORA TORA ROSENTHAL........ | SIOG::DAWSON | | Wed Sep 25 1991 22:10 | 12 |
|
RE the liverpool game.
I Heard, on good authority that, what kenny courtney said to sourpuss
was that he couldn,t give him a penalty because liverpool have to be in
the Leeds half of the pitch and that tora tora tora rosental should
stop practicing in the semi-circle 8-)8-)8-).
Liam
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33.74 | Strachan doubtful for Norwich. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Sep 26 1991 14:08 | 11 |
| Strachan is doubtful for the tough away game at Norwich on Saturday, he
has hamstring trouble. No other injury worries are reported, so the
team will probably be Lukic, Sterland, Dorigo, Whyte, McClelland,
Batty, Hodge, McAllister, Speed, Chapman, Shutt with Whitlow and
possibly Fairclough on the bench.
Rumours still appear re Brian Deane, I would not be surprised if Wilko
did go out and buy another striker or two as cover for Chapman and
Shutt.
jb.
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33.75 | Norwich vs. Leeds Saturday. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Sep 27 1991 17:02 | 12 |
| Tomorrows game is another toughie that will show up whether Leeds deserve their
current high flying position. It's a game that will have to be won, as potential
Champions have to go to tough looking opposition and get full points.
I predict a 1-0 win and a 6th clean sheet in a row for Lukic and 8th for the
season. Hopefully Strachan will play as we seem to be a different team
( not better ) without him.
Come on fill up this topic, we don't want to be beaten by arse or Liverpool for
more notes inputted.
James.
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33.76 | McCaptain | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Sep 27 1991 17:34 | 14 |
| McAllister is ready to take over from the Skipper tomorrow. Shutt will
come in as a starter id Strachan is unavailable. Leeds do miss
Strachan, but leeds United are not a 1 man team. If he isn't playing,
then McAllister will have to take on the role of playmaker, and lift
his game. I predict a tough encounter vs the Canaries, but if the lads
do what they are capable of, then 1-0 to Leeds is my prediction. A win
tomorrow and Tuesday will do wonders for morale, and really put the
Mancs under pressure, especially if they drop 2 or more points vs the
Totts on Saturday (I hope they will draw). If Man U and Leeds are top /
2nd or (hopefully) t'other way round, with 5 points between the 3rd
club at the end of Oct, tne the run up to Xmas should be interesting.
On the other hand ...
jb.
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33.77 | | DUCK::JAMANIS | | Fri Sep 27 1991 18:27 | 11 |
|
Is there any news on when both Wallace and Fairclough will have
recovered from their injuries?
I think that with Chapman being off form we desparately need a quality
striker. The problem is that we don't know if HW has any money left to
buy players!!
S
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33.78 | Canaries won't get 3. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Sep 27 1991 18:42 | 17 |
| Wallace will be out till the end of October. Fairclough is almost fit,
he will have to wait for a place - McClelland and Whyte are paying very
well at the moment, the last results have been 0-0, 1-0, 0-0, 1-0, 3-0
- that's 5 clean sheets in a row. Utd have scored 14 so far in the
League, Chapman has bagged 2. he needs more goals, but he puts the
defence in such a state, it leaves more room for the midfield to move
up and get a few. Our defence had only conceded 4 - that is a very good
record so far. Let's hope Chappo finds the net a bit more, but I
wouldn't say he was off form, just not 100% on !
Norwich will not put 3 past Lukic tomorrow, contrary to some
predictions !
If Lukic keeps another clean sheet tomorrow, it will be a personal best
for him.
jb.
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33.79 | We need some SERIOUS competition...8-) | TRUCKS::SANT | | Fri Sep 27 1991 19:26 | 9 |
|
Good luck tomorrow lads 8-)
I think you'll win. But we'll still be out ahead of you after
turning over the Totts. As long as we can both keep infront of
the Arse and 'pool.
Andy.
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33.80 | Another Draw. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Sep 30 1991 11:07 | 29 |
| Norwich 2 Leeds United 2
A good result this, a point at Norwich is not always easy. However, in
the context of this season, 3 points should have been taken. The Mancs
got another last gasp winner, but fortunately all around drew or lost
(there were a lot of 2-2 draws in Div 1 on Saturday).
Norwich opened the scoring in the 2nd half - the first half was
scrappy, a loose ball being picked up in midfield and Dale Gordon shot
it past Lukic. Leeds were level 4 mins later, from a cleverly worked
free kick, Dorigo's shot gave Gunn no chance. Speed then put Leeds in
front, only for them to lose the advantage to a 2nd Dale Gordon effort.
Too many passes were going astray and Norwich took advantage of this.
Strachan was missed, it is hoped he will be fit for a trip to Selhurst
Park on Tuesday, another hard game, but hopefully 3 points will come
out of it.
The Mancs and us are still unbeaten, but the Arse has crept into 3rd
place, 3 points behind us. The Mancs next 2 games should be
interesting, Liverpool and the Arse, draws will be OK here. The Totts
threw their point away by Stewart being sent off yesterday, Liverpool
struggled against Sheffield Wednesday, and the Arse stuffed
Southampton.
10 games gone, 5 wins and 5 draws 'Win at Home and draw away =
championship", early days yet, but the foundation is there (and we've
played nearly all of the big teams already).
jb.
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33.81 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Mon Sep 30 1991 18:27 | 5 |
| Keep making the excuses Jon, it'll be another 17 years before Leeds top
the 1st division.
[ANd before the avalanche of reminders about the Jubilee boys, I said
'top' not win]
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33.82 | Safe bet ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | New Hemisphere - Old Customers | Tue Oct 01 1991 06:14 | 6 |
|
re: -1
17 years ? OK then, if Leeds fail to top the 1st Division (or the
Premier Division) between now and 1st October 2008 then I'll buy
you a drink. :-)
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33.83 | whoops personal message mr.moderator | COMICS::HAWLEY | slam the doors and wedge them | Tue Oct 01 1991 14:58 | 5 |
| Tony! hows Australia? mail me!
Ian.
p.s Leeds were lucky against the pool.
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33.84 | Still unbeaten but not enough | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Oct 01 1991 16:05 | 8 |
| Leeds need to win tonight to keep the pressure up on the filth. With their
having two tough games coming up, We could be leading next Saturday evening,
what a thought. So much for 33.81! I predict a good close game with Leeds
coming up 1-0 in the end. Leeds Forever.
Hope Strachan is back to lead the Troops.
James.
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33.85 | Shining Crystal | MINDER::MACDONALDI | MUFC ECWC Champions | Wed Oct 02 1991 09:23 | 11 |
|
Last nights score
Crystal Palace 1(Bright 89) Leeds 0
Att:= 18,298
This still leaves the better Utd on top by 6 clear points, and a game in
hand over leeds.
macca
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33.86 | Youll never walk......again? | SUBURB::PRATTJ | | Wed Oct 02 1991 11:18 | 9 |
|
Oh dear, it looks a bit grim, McAllister was substituted due to injury
and Chris Whyte was limping around for half an hour, four bookings,
Batty, McClelland,Whyte and Varadi.
Could be a bit dangerous going into a relatively easy part of the
season with a weakened squad, and losing points to the likes of
Wimbledon/Luton.
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33.87 | View from the Arthur Waite Stand. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Oct 03 1991 11:28 | 32 |
| I went to the first away Leeds match for many a year on Tue night, the
fare on offer was well off. Palace managed 2 shots on goal in the 1st
half, Leeds 1. In the 2nd half, Leeds didn't manage 1, and Palace got a
winner after 90 seconds of injury time, after a free kick from outside
the area was headed in from 3 yards by Bright, the marking was very
poor. This was the worst I have seen Leeds play since the end of the
89-90 season - they don't travel well to Selhurst Park ! In conclusion,
the game was crap, Leeds played terribly, and the 1-0 scoreline almost
was the right result, 0-0 would have been a bonus !
After meeting fellow noters in the boozer, we toddled off on Notwork
South East to Thornton heath, and legged it through the back streets of
Sarff Lunnun, and took our place in the Arthur Waite Stand, there were
a lot lf Leeds fans there, mixing quite happily with the locals - there
was no aggro at all, something positive ! At the end, the Leeds fans
were not held back, and everybody was mixing quite happily - that's how
it should be. The crowd was a respectable 19,000 ish - not bad for
midweek. 6,500 of these were Leeds United (officially) and there were
more all over the stadium, but they were very quiet - nowt for them to
get excited about.
The injury list is growing, McAllister and Whyte are doubtful for
Saturday, Strach should be back though. Fairclough is out for 2 more
weeks, Wallace a month, Haddock and Kamara for longer. Varadi isn't top
of Div 1 quality, Chapman is having a barren spell, Leeds are in need
of 1 top class striker to bang some more goals in.
Sheff U on Sat, a 'derby' game, it will be tight, especially with our
injuries. 2-1 to United, I hope it's more....
jb.
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33.88 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Thu Oct 03 1991 16:31 | 8 |
| Did anyone see 'Standing Room Only' on BBC2 Monday?
There was this wonderful skit on Batty. They highlighted his ability to
'hoof' the ball out of defence, his ability to constructive passing to
colleagues (to the goalie from 1/2 way line), and best of all his late
tackling (on a spectator leaving the ground after the match).
Mmm, perhaps it wasn't a skit........
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33.89 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's Me in the Corner !! | Thu Oct 03 1991 18:21 | 6 |
| re -.1
See note 101
Al
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33.90 | Team selection is late. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Oct 04 1991 12:19 | 9 |
| Team selection for tomorrow's game against the Blades will be made
close to kick off, it is expected Strachan will be fit, but thter are
doubts about McAllister. Hopefully, Tuesday's performance (or lack of)
will act like a kick up the jacksie, and Leeds will come out fighting,
and put a few goals in the back of the net. We should still be 2nd at
the end of play, good results for us would be Arse and Chelsea and the
Mancs and Liverpool drawing.
jb.
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33.91 | Comments on current state of Leeds | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Oct 04 1991 15:15 | 16 |
| The game versus Crystal Palace was truly awful on Leeds part. I listened to it
all on BBC 5 and was amazed at how poorly Leeds played. The amount of
chances created were counted on one finger and overall there was no sort of
playmaking that could be considered dangerous on Leeds part. This is not
the sign of a team that is supposed to be challanging for league championships.
There is a distinct need of a top class play making forward in the team at
present before too much ground is lost to the leaders.
Albeit that we have played all the big fish in the pond we have to be capable
of putting away the little ones upto Christmas while the filth draw. Tuesdays
result hopefully is only a pothole on the road to better things so I predict
that tomorrows game will be a much happier affair with a 3 or 4 goal win against
a side that is struggling.
James.
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33.92 | What the &^#$ is going on ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Oct 07 1991 11:38 | 43 |
| Leeds United 4 Sheffield United 3
This was definetely a game of two halves ! Leeds started well, and were
1-0 up after 5 minutes courtesy of Hodge. A Sterland throw from the
right, poorly cleared by the Blades' defence, hammered in by Steve
Hodge. The second came from a Sterland free kick, after Phil Kite had
taken the ball outside his own area. The third was a Sterland penalty
(there was some argument between Sterland and McAllister who should
take it) aftrr Dorigo was pushed in the area. 3-0 at 1/2 time, Leeds
were totally in control, and heading for a cricket score. Every time
they got the ball, Sheffield were struggling. The Blades couldn't do
anything right, and Lukic was seldom troubled. Half time came and went,
I didn't partake of Gastric flu soup or a bottie burger, and Leeds came
out without McAllister, Whitlow playing instead. Hodge made it 4-0.
After that, they fell apart, stopped playing, and generally behaved
like silly b*ggers. McAllister was missed, as he had had a good first
half, playing on the right side and linking up very well with MoM
Sterland. Sheffield got a goal back after a free kick - the marking was
to cosk - just like last Tuesday. Sterland then went off injured, and
the rot really set in. Fairclough replaced him, but he played at full
back - not his position, and he isn't match fit. After Hoyland's 1st
goal, another came from Agana after a god awful back pass from Shutt -
it's the worst I've ever seen ! The Blades were heartened by this, and
puilled another one back, a poor Lukic punch was whacked back in. The
last 7 minutes were 'entertaining' to say the least, real edge of the
seat stuff, but Leeds hung on for 3 points.
Leeds were without Sterland, McAllister, Strachan, Wallace, Fairclough
was playing in a strange position. Not a good performance, but the hay
they fell asleep in the 2nd 1/2 was alarming. HW no doubt gave them a
good bollocking. As for the Blades, if they had shown the same
determination and fight in the 1st half they showed in the 2nd, then
they could have won. If they can carry on in the same vein, they will
save themselves (again).
Tomorrow is Scunthorpe in the R Cup, I exoect to see a Leeds XI play.
At least some of them have a week off, due to internatioinals, this
should give injuries some time to heal. Leeds are due to play a
testimaonial at York City on Monday 14th, in honour of David Longhurst,
the York player who died on the pitch some time ago, a stand has been
erected in his memeory.
jb.
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33.93 | Beglin/The Iron/FLA | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 08 1991 11:49 | 55 |
| A Testimonial for Jim Beglin vs Liverpool has been arranged for Aug
18th 1992, it will be played at Elland Road.
Team news for tonight - Strachan, Whyte, McAllister and Sterland all
have late fitness checks. It is hoped all will play.
I went to an interesting meeting of the FSA last night, the topic was
'All Seater Stadia'. The chap speaking to us was from the Football
Licencing Authority, a Quango set up to implement the Football
Supporters Act - in this case, it requires all 1st and 2nd division
grounds to be all seater by 1994, and all 3rd and 4th to be all seater
by 1999. If the government does change, then the 3rd and 4th may slip a
couple of years, but Div 1 and 2 is definetely 1994. The FLA officers
on the ground comprise of 4 coppers, 3 fire officers, 1 architect and
this chap from Leeds who was the Leeds City Council safety officer -
responsible for Elland Road, Roundhay Park Pop Concerts and other
concerts in disused tram sheds. The FLA will look at all aspects of
ground safety, seating layouts, policing, provision of faclilities -
especially for away supporters, if the ground doesn't come up to
scratch, then it won't be given a licence. Expect to see more ground
sharing schemes in the future, if a small club draws a big one in a
cup, then expect the game to be played on a bigger neutral ground. Put
simply, the football supporter in the UK has had a raw deal - there is
plenty of money for players and frills, but the money will not be spent
on stadia. If the directors and club officials think they can get away
with it for much longer, then they have a shock coming their way. If a
club does not go all seater by 1994, the standing areas will be closed
down.
All in all, it was an interesting meeting, some people there had not
realised that all seater stadia were coming. Of course, some clubs will
try to hike the prices up (one well known one is in Leeds 11, and
wonders why it can't fill seats at #17 per time ;-) ), Sheffield United
have led the way here, they have a 10,000 seat Kop, #7 per seat, it is
80% full, and more families are coming. Whan families do come, then it
is necessary to have proper facilities, Women's toilets, a decent cafe
or tea bar etc (Leeds United have the South Stand given over to the
Family Club which is over-subscribed). Some grounds will be closed down,
Oakwell (Barnsley) is a 23,000 capacity stadium, but only 2,000 seats -
the rest is open terracing. The Taylor report stated that a 20%
reduction per year in standing accommodation would be carried out, this
has not been the case, as this would lead to other problems - eg
Leeds vs Middlesboro in 1989, 4,000 Boro fans were locked outside and
they were fighting in the street, due to the capacity being restricted
at Elland Road in the wake of Hillsborough.
If better stadia come out of this, then it's for the good of us all.
Football is an entertainment - there are many other things to entertain
people. More and more live TV coverage of football will come along,
most Div 1 clubs now receive >50% of their income from TV and
advertising revenue - Joe Soap on the terrace is going to be less
important in the future to the clubs - bnut if there aren't any
punters- there's no game ....
jb.
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33.94 | 4-1 ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 08 1991 15:29 | 5 |
| PM prediction :-
Leeds 4 Scunthorpe 1
jb.
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33.95 | Davison | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Tue Oct 08 1991 15:33 | 10 |
|
Bobby Davison seems to be the only Leeds striker scoring goals at
present! I think he has scored in three consecutive games.
Maybe HW should get him back from Derby and stick him up
front with Chapman!!
S
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33.96 | Scorers | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 08 1991 16:03 | 11 |
| Leeds' goals have come from all over this time round, Hodge has 4,
Dorigo a couple, McAllister, Strachan, Batty, Sterland. Chapman is
giving the defence a hard time, allowing the midfield to push up and
score. It would be better if he got scoring again though ...
Davison isn't top of Div 1 standard, neither is Varadi, Whitlow,
Williams and some others still on the books at Elland Rd. Their
contracts will not be renewed, though a big squad with experience is
necessary to overcome injuries etc.
jb.
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33.97 | Scunthorpe should be seen off tonight! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Oct 08 1991 18:30 | 9 |
| A win tonight is important as to lose to a 3/4th division team is to say the
least a bit embarassing. A win therefore of 1-0 or 2-0 will be acceptable. I
just hope the Lads have got over the scare on Saturday and have a good
performance tonight.
Then time for injuries to recover with no league games on Sat. Hopefully will
have a full squad to pick from again soon.
James.
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33.98 | Win | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Wed Oct 09 1991 12:11 | 12 |
| Squeezed through but left it a little late!
Leeds 3 - 0 Scunthorpe
Sterland 70 ( pen)
Chapman 76
Speed 80
Win 3-0 on aggregate
James.
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33.99 | Davison injury | DUCK::JAMANIS | | Wed Oct 09 1991 15:05 | 10 |
|
Bobby Davison apparently is having exploratory checks on his knee.
Apparently he may have cartilige (sp?) problems.
It could mean a further lengthy lay off for the unlucky striker.
S
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33.100 | Into Round 3 we go | GIDDAY::PARSONS | New Hemisphere - Old Customers | Thu Oct 10 1991 02:07 | 6 |
|
re: Scunthorpe
well at least it was a win, we left it very late last season against
Leicester at the same stage of the competition. Good to see Chapman
scored (at last).
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33.101 | Tranmere here we come. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | James A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Thu Oct 10 1991 10:33 | 4 |
| Looks like Tranmere in the 3th round of the Rumbelows starting the week 28th
October.
James
|
33.102 | Comprehensive Victory ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Oct 10 1991 11:43 | 37 |
| Leeds 3 Scunthorpe 'If Typhoo put the 'T' in Britain, who put the $%^&
in S$%^&horpe ?' 0
It was the late, late show on Tue night, but Leeds' class showed. Leeds
were without McAllister and Strachan, Williams and Shutt replacing
them. Kelly, a 17 year old signed from Dublin club Home Farm was sub,
he came on for 5 minutes at the end. Scunthorpe played well, and
battled hard, but didn't give Lukic many problems in the 1st half,
Leeds could have had a couple. The first halk wasn't particulary
wonderful, and the crowd (14,550) were getting slightly worried (apart
from the Scunnie lot who were enjoying themselves). In the 2nd half,
there were more incidents in the 1st 10 minutes then in the first half,
at both ends. Scunthorpe started to tire 1/2 way through the 2nd half,
and whwn Hodge was pulled down in the area on 69 minutes, Sterland took
his penalty well. Chapman added a 2nd, and then Speed a 3rd, both
shots. Chapman had other chances, as did Shutt, but Chapman scored with
his hardest chance of the night. Scunthorpe did hit the post with 3
minutes to go, but it wasn't their night.
All in all, a satisfactory result against inspired opposition, well
done Scunthorpe.
McAllister and Strachan are both doubtful for the Scotland game next
week, a decision will be made over the weekend if they are fit to
travel. Fairclough was sub again and Chris Kamara played against
Liverpool Reserves the other night, so he may be ready for
consideration of a place in the next few games if the injury situation
doesn't abate. Davison has had an exploratory operation, but nothing
untoward has been found, and he will resume training on Monday, with a
possible permanent move to Derby on the cards.
Tranmere Rovers (TGD) are visitors to Elland Rd on Tue 29 Oct in Round
3 of the R Cup, not an easy match, but it could have been much worse.
The only top of Div 1 clash is Coventry vs the Arse.
jb.
|
33.103 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Thu Oct 10 1991 13:07 | 2 |
| The bad thing about the draw for you Leeds fans is that you can expect
an outbreak of Cunnovitis in this topic.
|
33.104 | Oh goody | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Oct 10 1991 13:23 | 5 |
| I can't wait.
jb.
PS Is 'Cunnovitis' catching ?
|
33.105 | KING ALDO! | ESSB::TJORDAN | | Thu Oct 10 1991 13:30 | 5 |
| yes folks it is
just watch tga and co beat you lot of the park in the next round .
rgds,
Tony.
|
33.106 | In the next month ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Oct 10 1991 16:11 | 23 |
| Leeds now have 10 days off, apart from Batty, Dorigo, Strachan and
MCAllister, who are on international duty. This will be needed, as
injuries have started to take their toll. Notts C (a) is the next game,
followed by 3 home games, Nottm F in the ZDS Cup (att 4,000), also live
on Sky Sports, Oldham in the League, and Tranmere of TGD fame in the
R Cup. Not as bad a group of fixtures as the past few weeks ! 6 points
from the league games is expected, as is progression in the 2 Cup
Competitions. No doubt the Pontin's League sides will be out for Forest
and Leeds in the Noddy Cup - I wonder for how much longer this
competition will go on for - I don't expect any Premier League clubs
will be entering it next year. The R Cup will be harder, Tranmere are
doing reasonably well in Div 2, but the game at Leeds will be their
toughest game to date this season.
The R Cup format may have to be changed, the first rounds do not
generate the crowds like a sudden death game do, if a Div 4 side gete
beaten in the 1st leg, then nobody will watch the 2nd leg whwn they
finally get dispatched 6-1 or something. A sudden death affair will be
better, and allow more smaller clubs to progress, which will give them
a boost for the rest of the season (a good cup run is make or break to
some clubs).
jb.
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33.107 | We need the breathing space | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Around the World in 50 days | Fri Oct 11 1991 07:33 | 9 |
|
This break has come at a good time for Leeds. Hopefully Strachan,
McAllister and the other injuries will clear up now.
I saw the Sheff Utd game on TV over here and Shutt's backpass was
one of the worst I have ever seen. He was obviously making sure HW
never picks him for defence, no matter how bad the injury situation !
Leeds fan down under
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33.108 | | TOTH::CHAVES | | Fri Oct 11 1991 16:36 | 8 |
| Ref: .103
> The bad thing about the draw for you Leeds fans is that you can
expect an outbreak of Cunnovitis in this topic.
Not to worry Leeds fans. It appears that short term exposure to
Malta sunlight cures the disease.
JC
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33.109 | York tonight | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Oct 14 1991 11:59 | 12 |
| United take a 'strong team' to York tonight, to play in a memorial
match for David Longhurst, the York player who died during a match at
Bootham Crescent last year. All first teamers bar the Internationals
(Batty, Dorigo, Strachan, NcAllister and Speed) are expected to play.
HW is in Birmingham today, chairing the initial meeting of the
Managers' Association - they are planning to draw up a code of conduct
to stop managers slagging one another off (or Lunchtime O'Booze
ghosting the 'story') in the press.
No footy at the weekend - it felt strange ...
jb.
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33.110 | News | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 15 1991 11:15 | 10 |
| York 2 Leeds United XI 2
Chapman and Hodge scored.
Bill Fotherby the Leeds United Commercial Manager has been asked to
serve on a Super league Commitee that are looking into sponsorship, TV
rights and money extraction from fans. He has a good track record in
all these !
jb.
|
33.111 | One in, one out. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 15 1991 15:58 | 3 |
| Batty is in the England side vs Turkey, Dorigo loses out to Pearce.
jb.
|
33.112 | Back to the League | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Oct 18 1991 12:40 | 24 |
| Back to the hard Div 1 graft tomorrow, vs Notts County at Meadow Lane.
Not an easy fixture, but a win is expected, and (hopefully) the Arse
and the Mancs drawing, it will put us 2 points nearer the top, and 2
points away from the Arse. On the injury front, only Haddock is a long
way away from a full recovery, Kamara has had 2 reserve games, Wallace
is training and will be ready for the reserves in a week, McAllister,
Strachan and Fairclough are fit, so Wilko will have selection
'problems' - I expect Fairclough to start and McClelland to sub along
with Shutt, McAllister, Strachan, Batty and Hodge being midfield with
Chapman and Speed up front. Whyte, Dorigo and Sterland will start at
the back.
9 points should be possible from the next 3 league games, Notts C (a),
Oldham (h) and the Wombles (a).
Friday prediction, 2-1 to Leeds tomorrow.
Tuesday sees the ZDS Cup at Elland Rd, live on Sky, so I'll be an
armchair attendee (or will I ? - it's much better live). Forest provide
the opposition, so the game may be taken seriously, 'Ol Big Head
usually likes to win. A close result is to be expected, with the tie
possibly going to penalties.
jb.
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33.113 | Thoughts on Nott county tomorrow. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Oct 18 1991 15:11 | 9 |
| I expect a win from tomorrows game against Notts County. A 1-0 result would
do nicely with the BIG GAME ending in a 0-0 draw. As JB said in the last note
its two points closer the filth and 2 further away from the arse.
The rest will have done the lads no harm at all. Feels so long since we have
had a game.
James.
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33.114 | Another away win ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Around the World in 50 days | Mon Oct 21 1991 02:30 | 12 |
|
Notts Co (1) 2 Leeds United (2) 4
Chapman, Hodge, McAllister,
Speed (not necessarily in that order).
Good result. To score 4 away from home in the 1st Division is good
going. It seems the midfield/attack is scoring at will, shame about
the defence being a bit leaky (I suppose if all the midfielders are
attacking then they can't be defending as well).
The Man Utd/Arsenal result was a help as well. Still there is a long
way to go yet ...
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33.115 | 2 points away from the top. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Oct 21 1991 11:19 | 26 |
| 3 points away from home, and 4 goals as well. County took the lead on
13 minutes, and they were very frantic in the 1st 15 minutes, Gary Lund
(on the transfer list) was the scorer. Leeds equalised with a Chapman
header, and then Hodge added a 2nd, making it 2-1 at half time. County
were quite lively, and Lukic was kept busy. Chapman was subbed at 1/2
time, he has injured his back. McAllister came on as sub, Whyte got a
3rd, McAllister a 4th in the first 7 minutes of the 2nd half. By this
time, the County defence was looking ragged, and they were attempting
to kick anything that moved, McAllister was stretchered off in the 70th
minute with a bad ankle injury, Speed also got a knock. County pulled
one back to make it 4-2, but there was only ever going to be 1 result.
Further good news came from OT, a 1-1 draw there putting us 2 points
behind the Mancs, and 4 above 3rd placed Man City. If the Mancs draw at
Wednesday on Saturday, we go top if we beat Oldham by 3 clear goals.
ZDS Cup Action is next at Elland Road tomorrow (Tuesday), Leeds meet
Nottingham Forest, it is live on Syy Sport. I don't know what sort of
team will trot out, but it will be minus McAllister for sure. Another
good spot on Saturday was Chris Kamara being back in action, he came on
to sub the sub McAllister, Kamara is a real fighter and committed player.
I hope Leeds can progress to the next round of the ZDS cup, it may not
be a wonderful competition, but at least United can keep their momentum
up.
jb.
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33.116 | More injuries... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Oct 21 1991 15:41 | 7 |
| McAllister has aggravated the ankle injury that sidelined him for the
Sheff U, Scotland, Scunthorpe and most of the Notts C games - he might
be out for another couple of games. Speed (Calf) and Chapman (back
strain) are also very doubtful. I wonder if Wilko will give Kelly a run
out against Forest tomorrow ?
jb.
|
33.117 | Kelly who? | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Mon Oct 21 1991 19:38 | 10 |
|
JB
Who is Kelly?
S
|
33.118 | ZDS cup, tonight vs. Forest. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Oct 22 1991 13:34 | 9 |
| Should be interesting to see what team HW puts out tonight as the ZDS ( or
whatever its called now ) cup probably isn't top of his list of things to win
this season. However he should put out a team good enough to beat Forest and
give a run to some of our many injured players and even introduce some youngsters
to the fold.
Prediction 3-1 to Leeds.
James.
|
33.119 | Forest in the ZDS Cup Live on Sky tonight | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 22 1991 13:46 | 15 |
| Kelly is a 17 year old signed from Home Farm of Dublin over the
syummer. He has emerged as a regular goalscorer in the reserves, and
may get a run out as sub tonight vs Forest. Chappo and McAllister are
definetely out, Speed will have a late fitness check. Speed has played
in the last 87 games without missing 1 (through injury, he has been sub
on several occasions). Chappo has gone 47 games without missing one.
Forest will have a bee in their ear from Saturday, so it won't be a
pushover, I hope for a 2-1 margin, or even 5-4 on penalties a.e.t. Live
coverage starts on Sky Sport at 7pm, KO is at 7.30pm, the crowd will be
about 5,000.
League action recommences at Elland Road on Saturday, with Oldham
Athletic the visitors. Hopefully Chappo and McAllister will be fit.
jb.
|
33.120 | | DUCK::WILSOND1 | | Tue Oct 22 1991 15:15 | 6 |
|
I'll wager it wont be as good as the last ZDS cup game on SKY...
The 6-6 draw between Newcastle and Tranmere.
Dave...
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33.121 | Leeds XI vs Forest XI | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 22 1991 15:37 | 11 |
| Injury News :-
Strachan faces a late test, as do Speed and Hodge. Other crocks are
MCClelland, Chapman, McAllister, Varadi and long term Haddock. Wallace
may return after his groin operation, he's been training, but is short
of match practice.
On a brighter note, the game at Villa on 23 Nov has been put back to
Sun 24 Nov, it will be live on ITV's 'The Match' - kick off 3pm.
jb.
|
33.122 | Out of the ZZZZZZZZZDS Cup | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Oct 23 1991 11:14 | 37 |
| Leeds 1 Forest 3
Wallace Sheringham 2
AN Other
The first home defeat of the season. The team was :-
Lukic
Sterland (Rod Wallace)
Whyte
Fairclough
Dorigo
Batty
Newsome (Grayson)
Kamara
Shutt
Speed
Snodin
Not exactly the first team, and they didn't play well, which wasn't a
surprise. Missing a midfield of Strachan, McAllister and Hodge and
Chapman up front tends to take a bit away from the team...
To their credit, Forest played well, soaked up a lot of pressure, and
scored on the break, and were worth their 3-1 win. A 'crowd' of 6,700
turned up, I watched it at home live on the box.
Hopefully, the injuries to Chappo and Co. will have cleared up by
Saturday, and 3 points will be taken from the Oldham game. Leeds' squad
still isn't as deep as the Arse's or the Mancs, so time and money will
have to be spent doing this.
Wallace looked good on his comeback, and scored a goal to make it 2-1,
and Leeds looked OK, but then Forest got a third and the game was out
of reach. So it's goodbye to the Noddy Cup forever - I don't think it
will be back next season.
jb.
|
33.123 | Bing on Song in ZDS!!! | CAILIN::MJGREANEY | | Thu Oct 24 1991 12:13 | 6 |
| re:-1
"An other" was none other than......Gary Crosby.
M.J.
|
33.124 | Our time has come to lead the Pack. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Oct 25 1991 13:02 | 10 |
| I expect fully that Leeds will be leading the 1st division tomorrow evening after
we give oldham a good licking 6-2 (-; . The filth will go down to Wednesday who
are having a good season. Anybody know what the current injury list is, it's
nearly as long as Liverpools but look where they are.
Great to see Wallace score on Tuesday hopefully the first of many this season. He
May solve the problem of a top class striker along side Chappie as long as he
stays fit.
James.
|
33.125 | Possible Team for tomorrow | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Oct 25 1991 13:21 | 16 |
| From what I heard on the Radio this morning, McAllister and McClelland
are out, Strachan, Hodge and Chapman are expected to be fit enough for
inclusion in the squad, as is Wallace, who played on Wed night in the
reserves in the 1-1 draw away at Bolton.
Probable line up is Lukic, Sterland, Dorigo, Whyte, Fairclough,
Strachan, Batty, Hodge, Speed, Chapman, Wallace. Subs Shutt, Williams
All that matters tomorrow is a win, the bigger the better, and hope
that our Yorkshire pals down the M1 take 3 points off Man U.
Other teams in 3rd to 6th place have tough games (apart from the Arse),
and points could be dropped, it could be that Man U and ourselves open
up a 5 point gap above the chasing pack.
jb.
|
33.126 | After 17 years - we're back at the top ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Oct 28 1991 12:35 | 42 |
| Leeds 1 Oldham 0
Not a good game but LEEDS GO TOP.
For the first time in 17 years, Leeds United lead the Football League.
The last time they held that position was in 1974, when they won the
title (that is 7 (seven) years after a certain team South West of
Leeds over some hills last had that honour). Although the season is
only a 1/3 over, it is an acheivement. There is still a long way to go,
but we'll see what happens - all Leeds need to do is keep on winning
;-) .
The match itself was a rather dull affair, Oldham proving yet again
they are a handful, indeed it was Oldham who had the better chances in
the 1st half, Kilcline having a shot turned onto the bar by Lukic,
Holden missing a couple. Kilcline had a good game till 70 minutes when
he scored a super own goal, a McAllister cross was put past Hallworth
by Kilcline, if he had missed it, Chapman would have had it in.
Kilcline did a good marking job on Chapman, climbing all over him etc.
Leeds improved after the goal, and did not look in too much difficulty.
Kamara replaced Speed, who has damaged ankle ligaments, and Strachan
went off after 80 minutes, replaced by Shutt. Wallace started, but
wasn't too effective, Hodge may have to have a groin operation, the
injury list grows and grows.
Kamara could be on his way to Luton for #150,000, the price has been
agreed, and so have personal terms, but Wilko may want to keep onto him
for a while till the injury situation improves. Kamara is a popular
player with the fans, he gives his all and gets stuck in when needed.
If he does go, then good luck to him, he will help Luton possibly avoid
relegation !
Tomorrow is Tranmere (and TGD) in the R Cup, I hope Leeds get through
this hoop, it will be Tranmere's hardest test this season. I expect a
3-1 scoreline to Leeds.
Wombles away on Sat, a win would be nice. There will be more Leeds fans
than Wombles, so it could be like a home game. A win will keep us top
for at least 2 more weeks :-)
jb.
|
33.127 | Tranny tonight and I smell TGA | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Oct 29 1991 12:19 | 11 |
| TGA at Elland tonight and he will find out what its really like in the first
division. Something he will not savour! It easy scoring goals against 2nd and 3th
division nobodies and penalties my granny wouldn't miss but its something else
scoring against class first division outfits. I see Leeds winning 2-0 with Aldo
not getting a look in, not even his usual penalty diving session.
So much for our injury list lengthening. Where will it end? With the title I
hope.
James.
|
33.128 | The arrival of TGD. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 29 1991 12:29 | 17 |
| Hodge is to see a specialist about his groin strain that has been
troubling him for the last 2 weeks. It is possible he may need an
operation, thus keeping him out of the team till Christmas. Speed won't
play tonight, due to an ankle ligament injury, it is possible he hay be
in contention for Saturday's game vs the Womlles. On the bright side,
McAllister, Strachan, Chapman, Wallace and Sterland all came through
Saturday's game without any further injuries.
Tranmere will be trying their hardest tonight, to beat the team at the
top of the tree is always a great motivator, but I expect Leeds United
to be in the hat for the draw tomorrow night. 7-0 or something would be
nide, but I expect a 2-1 or something close. TGD will need watching, as
will his scoring partner. If Leeds get 2-0 up quickly, Tranmere could
cave in, but I doubt it. No more injuries though - the 3 points at
Wimbledon on Sat is more important !
jb.
|
33.129 | Hodge may be playing tonight ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 29 1991 16:53 | 7 |
| Better news on the injury front - Hodge doesn't need an operation, and
he could be in contention for a place tonight if he passes a late
fitness test.
The Mancs note subscribers look to be getting rattled !
jb.
|
33.130 | ALDO TO DESTROY SHEEP SH@#$ERS. | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | I MET THE GREAT ALDO | Tue Oct 29 1991 20:17 | 22 |
|
Re .127,
James,
You obviously don't know your Aldo history when you
discount his marvellous achievements both in England and in Spain.
Aldo had huge success at Liverpool and Spain playing in F.A. cup
finals, playing and scoring against Real Madrid and Barcelona at the
Bernabeua and New Camp stadia and if he can't hit the net against a
bunch of sheep sh@#$ers at pokey Elland road, then maybe the greatest
striker that the modern era has seen is in decline.
Wilkinson had the chance to sign a lethal striker in the summer but
failed to snap Aldo up and when Leeds fail to finish in the top three,
they will rue the fact that not signing the great one was their
downfall because despite his goals last season, Chapman lacks one
fundamental element that all great strikers need i.e., ability.
Elland road has seen some fine players of the past( and I don't mean
the physical plodders of the seventies like Bremner, Giles, Gray,
Cooper, Lorimar, Madeley) e.g. when Liverpool used to visit there in
the sixties and seventies before Leeds went back where they belong, the
second div. but tonight Leeds folk will have another spectacle, the
presence of THE GREAT ALDO.
|
33.131 | Why is he playing for Tranmere? | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer | Tue Oct 29 1991 20:26 | 5 |
| Martin,
How do you account for Grimey Sourpuss's failure to snap up TGA and his
preference of paying megabucks for Saunders? Does GS know something
about TGA that you don't know (or can't see)?
|
33.132 | | RUTILE::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Wed Oct 30 1991 10:39 | 8 |
| Cunno,
And how do you account for the fact that TGA hasn't scored many
goals in the second division this year, and Tranmere aren't doing very
well at all yet!.
Stevo.
|
33.133 | Leeds through, but did TGD score ? | TRUCKS::SANT | | Wed Oct 30 1991 11:18 | 6 |
|
Well you did beat Tranny 3-1 last night...but guess who got the 1 ?
Yup. TGD !! 8-)
Andy.
|
33.134 | Chappie 222222222 TGA 111111111 | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Wed Oct 30 1991 12:04 | 11 |
| Leeds 3 Tranny 1 ( H-T 0-0 )
Chappie 2 TGA 1
Shutt
Seems like Tranny gave us a good work out last night. Took a 2 goal lead and TGA
struck back but Shutt made it safe near the end. BBC 5 said that Tranny could
have been 3 up at half time if they had a finisher!
James.
|
33.135 | TGA | ESSB::SONEILL | | Wed Oct 30 1991 12:04 | 7 |
| HOward WIlkinson could have done a lot worse than signing TGA.
I believe the great man had a personal preference to return to the
Liverpool area. Hitting the 20 mark before end of October in
all competitions is no mean achievement. And no Martin isn't standing
over my head...
Shane
|
33.136 | TGD and Tranmere OUT OUT OUT | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Oct 30 1991 13:04 | 30 |
| Leeds 3 Tranmere 1
Chappo 2 Aldridge
Shutt
A game of 2 halves this - Tranmere were the better side in the 1st half,
but couldn't put their chances away. Leeds were very strong 5 minutes
before the break, after Nixon had been booked, and was rattled. Nixon
went down feigning injury after collecting a cross with Chapman around,
he was motionless on the ground, but Shutt tapped the ball out of his
hands, and he got up very quickly, and the ref booked him. Whyte hit a
35 yarder that hit the bar, went up for 35 yards or so , which gave
Nixon time to recover and boot it out again. In the 2nd half, Leeds
looked a totallly different side, and Tranmere were hanging on, but
looking dangerous on the break. A Sterland-Chapman combination made it
1-0 after 68 minutes, a simailar combination made it 2-0 after 81. TGD
(admittedly one of the better players on the pitch in the first half) then
made it 2-1, and Tranmere sensed they could make something of the tie,
but were kept out. Shutt got a 3rd in injury time, he was fouled, but
instead of wasting time, got up quickly, Strachan threaded a cheeky
free kick to him, and Shutt slotted it past a bemused Nixon to make it
3-1.
In the 2nd half, Tranmere missed Steel, who was climbing all over
Chapman, and once Leeds started getting the ball wide and crossing to
Chapman, they looked very good.
So into the next round - anybody at home will do. I wonder if Leeds can
go one step further this year and win it ?
jb.
|
33.137 | Injuries | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Oct 30 1991 13:07 | 7 |
| Injury News - Hodge aggravated his groin injury last night, it may now
be he needs an operation .... He collided with Nixon, the Tranny
goalie. Kamara played instead, and had a good game. Wallace went off
(knackered) after 80 mins, Williams replaced him. Hodge os doubtful for
Saturday vs the Wombles.
jb.
|
33.138 | What injuries??? | WELCLU::CADD | I got a T.V., you got a T.V. | Wed Oct 30 1991 19:01 | 11 |
|
Jon i believe the draw for the next round is not tonight but live on
Saint & Greavsie on saturday. Which means i will miss it as i will be
travelling to the Wombles game @ Selhurst.
On some other injury news Batty had to go into hospital on tuesday due
to an ankle infection which has turned nasty. Wilko was quite worried
it might be long term but was informed it would not be.Still it's
another injury we could do without good job it's occurred at a time
when we are playing the likes of Wimbledon & QPR.
|
33.139 | Wombles of Wimbledon | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Oct 30 1991 19:11 | 15 |
| The likes of Wimbledon and QPR (and Tranmere) are not to be taken
lightly. 90+ minutes of pressure must be applied to them, and no let up
- else they have a nasty habit of grabbing a late equaliser / winner
(remember Palace got a winner in the 95th minute od a League match !) I
suppose 3 points are there for the taking vs both of them - I hope so.
The Mancs have a less than easy game vs Sheff Utd on Sat - then a hard
fixture vs Ateletico Madrid the week after, as well as a less than
trivial visit by Pompey tonight. 3 points on Sat, and our close rivals
failing to win please.
I don't watch Saint and Greavsie, if the weather's good, I'll be out
videoing steam engines, an I might go to The Shay to watch mighty
Halifax take on the even mightier Burnley.
jb.
|
33.140 | | YUPPY::PANES | The Taking of Peckham 1-2-3 | Thu Oct 31 1991 11:51 | 12 |
| <<< Note 33.139 by BAHTAT::BLYTHE "Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill" >>>
-< Wombles of Wimbledon >-
> (remember Palace got a winner in the 95th minute od a League match !) I
In the words of the late great Maurice Chevalier
"Ah yes, I remember it well"
Stuart
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33.141 | Win on Sat. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Oct 31 1991 14:51 | 18 |
| Batty has a foot infection, a legacy of his England game 2 weeks ago,
it has become infected and swollen, and he is receiving antibiotics to
try to fix it. If it works, he should be playinmg Saturday. Speed is
also expected to be fit. Hodge isn't, and an operation may be necessary
(again).
A low crowd will be at Selhurst on Sat, to see the Wombles get beaten 2
or 3 - 1. There will be more Leeds United fans there than Wimbledon,
but there won't be too much atmosphere. Most people will be at home in
front of the fire watching the Rugby.
So, 2-1 to Leeds on Sat, Sheff U to upset the Mancs by drawing 2-2 at
Old Trafford, The Arse to bounce back 2-0, Sheff Wed to draw, and Man
City to lose.
Off to Basingstoke -sur -mer tomorrow.
jb.
|
33.142 | kamara sold | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Thu Oct 31 1991 16:10 | 14 |
33.143 | Yes | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Oct 31 1991 16:16 | 5 |
| Kamara will be on his way, but Wilko may keep him for a week or two to
as cover during the current injury crisis. kamara is a good player who
gives his all, and will be a boost to Luton.
jb.
|
33.144 | gone | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | | Thu Oct 31 1991 17:08 | 6 |
|
re Kamara
Teletext at lunchtime claimed he had just signed.
Paul
|
33.145 | Kamara | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Oct 31 1991 17:15 | 3 |
| I'll listern to Radio Leeds this evening & look in the EP.
jb.
|
33.146 | At last ! Top of the pile (for the moment) ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Around the World in 50 days | Fri Nov 01 1991 05:17 | 9 |
|
Well I've got my newspaper cutting of the 1st Division table ...
I just hope that it won't be the year 2008 before I see the
table like that again :-)
It's good to see Leeds still winning even with several players
carrying injuries, but I think it will cost them in the end. Has
it been decided yet where England's second UEFA Cup slot is going,
to 3rd in Division 1 or the Rumbelows Cup Winners ?
|
33.148 | Rumbelows get the 2nd UEFA spot. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Nov 01 1991 14:50 | 11 |
| Re 33.146
I think the the second spot goes to the winners of the Rumbelows cup.
Don't be so unoptimistic about the state of Leeds yet. There is a good squad and
even though there are a few injuries we can still go all the way and prove the
doubters wrong with Leeds on top of the tree come May time.
Oh ye of little faith.
James.
|
33.149 | Leeds before the Mancs. | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | Aldo too good for 2nd Div. | Fri Nov 01 1991 15:59 | 7 |
|
Leeds will not have the staying power to be top of the league come May.
The going will prove too tough for them but still, if Liverpool were
not to win the league, then I would prefer Leeds to win ahead of the
Mancs.
Cunno
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33.150 | Thanks Cunno. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Nov 01 1991 16:08 | 5 |
| Re .-1
Thanks your faith is comforting.
James.
|
33.151 | Time Out for injuries ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Around the World in 50 days | Mon Nov 04 1991 04:48 | 18 |
|
Wimbledon 0 Leeds United 0
Oh well, off the top. At least we have 2 weeks to get players
over their injuries. It seems Liverpool and Arsenal are determined
to leave this seasons fight for the title to Yorkshire & Manchester !
We keep our records against Wimbledon intact, if nothing else;
Never lost to Wimbledon.
Never conceded a goal against Wimbledon while in the 1st Division.
re: a few back
I do think it's possible that Leeds will be champions, but I would
still make one or two other teams more likely to finish top. Having
said that it would make a change for the title to go to Manchester
or Yorkshire, after spending the last 10 seasons in Merseyside or
North London.
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33.152 | Zzzzzz | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Nov 04 1991 14:12 | 18 |
| A performance devoid of excitement, energy and passion....
Wombles 0 Leeds 0
HW's words appear avbove. Not a good display, but a point away. HW said
the team was jaded, and they needed a break. The next game is 16 Nov,
home to QPR, so some of the players can take a rest.
Batty missed the game, his foot is srill causing him trouble, but he
should be fit for the England game next Wed.
Mo Johnstone has been linked with Leeds, Rangers are wanting 2 million,
but I don't think HW will buy at that price. Merson is supposed to be
going to Rangers, so maybe Rangers want to offload Johnstone. I don't
know how he will fit in at Leeds, he is a p*ss artist apparently, not
the sort of player that HW wants at Leeds.
jb.
|
33.153 | | YUPPY::PANES | Lets hear it for Jim Bob and Fruitbat | Mon Nov 04 1991 14:37 | 8 |
|
Call me old fashioned, but WTF did they make the game all ticket?
Stuart
A casual fan, who supports the Palace who ( stop me if I mentioned this
before ) beat Liverpool last Saturday.
|
33.154 | What does ---> WTF <--- mean. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Mon Nov 04 1991 14:59 | 0 |
33.155 | A clue? | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Mon Nov 04 1991 15:13 | 1 |
| If 'W' = what, or why, and 'T' = the ...
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33.156 | ARTICLE ON LEEDS | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Mon Nov 04 1991 16:09 | 20 |
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Just read in the Daily Mail that HW feels the players are totally
'knackered'. He has told them to not come back to Elland Road until
Thursday and in fact not even to think about football!.
HW is also quoted as saying that he did not want to enter the ZDS Cup
but was 'persuaded' by thre officials from the League to do do. He now
regrets changing his mind and is I am sure thank ful of being knocked
out so early.
The article basically slags Leeds off as showing 'precious little' in
confirming themselves as First Division leaders. The title for the
article is "Strain shows on tired Wilkinson as high stakes fail to lift
Leeds".
S
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33.157 | R Cup vs Everton | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Nov 05 1991 13:18 | 6 |
| Leeds have drawn Everton (a) in the R Cup. The tie will be played on
Wed 4 Dec, we play Everton at home on Sat 30 Dec ! Not an easy game,
hopefully they will go through to the next round. The draw was a
shambles, Saint and Greavsie are a couple of %&^%$^%&s.
jb.
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33.158 | Typo ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Nov 05 1991 13:19 | 6 |
| re .157
For Sat 30 Dec read Sat 30 Nov.
jb.
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33.159 | | ASKFOR::HAIGH | Still hazy after all these beers | Tue Nov 05 1991 13:21 | 6 |
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That's the second comment about the draw, what were these 2 clowns
up to?
Steve
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33.160 | Dick head's draw. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Nov 05 1991 13:26 | 8 |
| R Cup Draw :-
This was live on the ITV 'Saint and Greavsie' football preview show.
They turned it into a farce, with Jimmy Greaves pulling out a string of
multicoloured flags half way through, and cracking stupid jokes / inane
comments throughout.
jb.
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33.161 | Timing out ? | SUBURB::GROOMN | The Renault 5 are innocent - OK ! | Tue Nov 05 1991 13:31 | 8 |
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As well as all the clowning, did anyone else notice how the teams
appeared on the screen before the ball was pulled from the bag. I
thought it may have been due to a few post/pre rugby beers that had
been consumed but alas my companions verified this.
Nev.
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33.162 | Hospital Bulletin. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Nov 05 1991 19:06 | 11 |
| Batty is out of hospital, and has been chosen for the England squad,
along with Dorigo. Batty will probably get a game, Dorigo will be over
for Pearce. Strachan and McAllister are in the Scotland 'mission
impossible' squad, and Speed in the Welsh. All the others have got a
few days off till next Tuesday, but they all have flu jabs on Thursday.
No further news on the Johnstone rumour - I think it was all made up
anyway, although it was mentioned on Radio 5 and BBC Radio Leeds - not
normally noted for outlandish reports.
jb.
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33.163 | Hodge banned and fined | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Nov 07 1991 18:58 | 11 |
| Steve Hodge has been banned for 1 game and fined #1,800 for commernts
made to the ref after the reversal at Crystal Palcce. He felt that the
free kick awarded was an aberration by the ref, and told him so (or
words similar ;-) )
No footie at Elland Rd this w/e - that's 2 bare weekends in a few weeks
- going to b*gger up my Sat afternoon, no jumping up and down at Elland
Road, or fighting to receive Radio Leeds up in the Dales for the
commentary.
jb.
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33.164 | Batty and Saunders | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Nov 08 1991 12:07 | 9 |
| Batty has had to withdraw from the England squad, his infected ankle
(injury received during the last England game) is not yet right. There
is renewed speculation in this morning's press that Dean Saunders may
be on his way to Elland Road at about #3 million, he hasn't got the
avalanche of goals expected of him at Anfield, or is it the rats
leaving the sinking ship ? The Leeds United chairman, Leslie Silver,
denies anything of it, so it could be true ;-)
jb.
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33.165 | Saunders for $3,000,000? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Nov 08 1991 13:38 | 10 |
| I would be shocked it Leeds bought Saunders for even remotely that sort of money.
It would be a momunental mistake as no player is worth $3 million in my humble
opinion. What has he done this year? Scored a few goals, yes, but not the kind
that a club would pay of telephone numbers for.
So if he does come and wins the league for us on his OWN, is the league
championship worth 3 million to a club or what.
James.
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33.166 | Hello | YUPPY::HOGAN | The 91/92 Champions, Don't doubt it! | Fri Nov 08 1991 13:39 | 20 |
| Intro: My name is Paul Hogan, honest I was born before he was
fameous, and although I have only been to three games thus far I
am becomming a little disheartened with the un-optimistic attitude
of my fellow LEEDS noters. I went to see their recent away game with
Wimbledon and although it was far from a vintage performance i could
see flashes of true class freom the likes of messers Strachan,
McAllister, and in particular Chris Fairclough who was as usual
outstandingly solid in defence and damn near scored with a header from
a corner. If Leeds can manage to play for 90 mins( as opposed to
88mins) and not concede late goals then they WILL win the league!
This morning I read of Saunders possibly comming to Leeds,
anything over 1.8 million will be a waste as there is an abundence of
top class strikers in the country. I,m glad the Arse and Moanchester
are out of Europe so they can give us a run for our money with no
silly excusses.
Croc.
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33.167 | Hello from Leeds | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Nov 08 1991 13:47 | 14 |
| Welcome to the Leeds United note, Paul.
I wouldn't say we were pessimistic, just realistic. Leeds are one or 2
players short at the moment (striker and a replacement full back to
cover Dorigo / Sterland), but they have been stratched by injuries and
fatigue in the last few games. I expect the Div 1 leadership to chop
and change between us and the Mancs for a few weeks, the Mancs tend to
be at home when we are away and vice versa. 3 points from QPR in a
weeks time will be OK, the 2 Mancs are playing one another that day I
think (Draw), so we could go top again. The other league contenders
(Mancs, Arse, Liverpool, Sheff Wed, Villa) are not superteams - they
can be beaten.
jb.
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33.168 | Merson or Saunders? | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Fri Nov 08 1991 15:50 | 11 |
33.169 | Will he / won't he ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Nov 08 1991 16:43 | 6 |
| Leslie Silver has again said Leeds don't want Liverpool cast offs,
maybe it's a smoke screen, but Leeds were very annoyed by Cap'n Bob's
(decd) antics, and Saunders' wish to play for a run of the mill 1st
division team.
jb.
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33.170 | What did Cap'n Bob do. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Mon Nov 11 1991 12:20 | 6 |
| Re .-1
What did the (decd) Cap'n Bob do for those of us that missed it.
James.
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33.171 | Cap'n Bob / Xfers | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Nov 11 1991 12:31 | 12 |
| Cap'n Bob.
Leeds bid 3 million for Saunders in the Summer, but Cap'n Bob used this
as a basis to hike the price up. Leeds then pulled out of the deal,
eventually Saunders went to the no-hopers of Anfield.
Latest rumour re new striker is McClair, who could be freed by Man U if
they get Sherarer - or it could be fiction to fill up the back pages of
the Sunday Gutter Press.
jb.
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33.172 | Striker under noses | YUPPY::HOGAN | The 91/92 Champions, Don't doubt it! | Mon Nov 11 1991 14:13 | 3 |
| If Leeds really are in dire need of a top class striker who is
fast and snoops around the box then why did they put Bobby Davison
on the transfer list?
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33.173 | Davison | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Nov 11 1991 14:19 | 4 |
| Davison wasn't good enough for Div 1.
jb.
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33.174 | There's only one Bill Wyman!!! | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Mon Nov 11 1991 22:53 | 25 |
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On the outgoing market :-
It's rumoured that Snodin has gone to Coventry and Williams has
gone to Port Vale (again).
For those of you that don't know, the Villa v Leeds game (24th Nov)
is live on the match, probably with either Saint or 'Jimmy- (I'm not
going to the England 25 year world cup squad Do 'cos i didn't play
-Greaves' doing some sort of commentary.
I think that it was a pity to see the Mancs and Arsenal go out of
European competitions, not from the point of view that i wanted them
to do well, but in the interest of Leeds i.e. more games means more
chance of injuries,tired players etc taking it's toll on
teams wishing to make a serious assault on the championship.Having said
that Leeds may well be in the same situation next year.
P.C.
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33.175 | James Greaves T.T. | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer | Tue Nov 12 1991 12:13 | 9 |
| <<< Note 33.174 by WELSWS::CADD "The only way is up!!!" >>>
-< There's only one Bill Wyman!!! >-
In fairness to the old buffoon, get your facts straight. Greaves told
the organisers that he would not be attending as he never attends
functions of this type where alcohol is served.
Leeds in Europe? Nah, stick to what you know best. Good luck in the
ZDS!
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33.176 | "That old baboon" | WELCLU::CADD | Protect & Survive | Tue Nov 12 1991 18:16 | 12 |
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Well depending on the press release that you read from which ever rag,
you pays your money and takes your choice. Your info is probably as
distorted as mine,so who is in the right ??????? Certainly not the
newpapers !!. Only the man himself knows eh ???.
P.C.
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33.177 | | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer | Tue Nov 12 1991 18:22 | 2 |
| I had the misfortune to be in the same room as a tv showing the S+G
show when I heard the great man say so himself.
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33.178 | "Geoff Hat-trick Hurst" | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Tue Nov 12 1991 19:07 | 10 |
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Prehaps he was enebriated at the time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He lives just down the road from me in Great Baddow (Essex) i should go
and ask !!!. Maybe he will invite me to his B-B-Q.
P.C
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33.179 | On the way back to the Top. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Nov 15 1991 12:17 | 12 |
| Hodge is suspended, Strachan has a 50/50 chance of playing due to a
back injury he picked up during training for the Scotland game. Batty
should play, he played for the reserves in a 5-0 victory at West Brom,
Varadi got 2 of the goals.
I hope Christmas doesn't come early to Elland Road like it did last
year, with United giving a 2-0 lead away, and Wegerle got the goal of
the season. My prediction is 3-1 to Leeds, and Man City to beat Man Utd
- no doubt that will be the R5 commentary game, and 10,000 trannies
will be tuned to it towards the end of the game at Elland Road.
jb.
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33.180 | I remember it well ! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Nov 15 1991 14:47 | 14 |
| I remember it well going 2-0 up in the corresponding fixture last year and We
gifting them 3 goals to let them win. However that was the kick in the Arse we
needed as Leeds went unbeaten for the next 14 games, upto that debacle at Anfield
on new years day.
Prediction 2-0 with Leeds going 2 points clear tomorrow night. The Lads have had
their rest ands it's back to business again. Goals is all we need as I know that
We won't concede many. I would like to see Wallace get a few to pay off some of
the large outlay placed on him during the summer. One goal is simply not enough.
James "the believer".
P.S I believe we will win the league.
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33.181 | Hotting up niceley | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Nov 15 1991 15:03 | 8 |
| The top of the table is starting to look interesting, if MU win
tomorrow (and assuming we do), then there is 5 points between 2nd and
3rd - MC or Sheff Wed, they will draw on Sun I think. If MU lose/draw,
then it's back to the top, but there is still the 2 or 3 points cushion
over 3rd place. Next Sundays game at Villa will be set up nicely, as
Villa are going well.
jb.
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33.182 | Top again | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Sun Nov 17 1991 15:51 | 23 |
| Leeds 2 - 0 Q.P.R
Sterland 59 att 27,087
Wallace 62
Decent performance but Strachan was quiet. with the filth drawing we are back on
top by 1 point. Clean sheet number 11 out of 20 games for the defence.
Team
Lukic
Sterland Fairclough Whyte Dorigo
Strachan Batty Mcallister Speed
Wallace Chapman
With Villa winning their umpteenth game also yesterday, next Sundays game will be
a real test for the lads.
James.
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33.183 | A dismal day in Leeds - livened up by the footie ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Nov 18 1991 12:29 | 37 |
| Leeds United 2 QPR 0
A dismal grey and cold day in Leeds on Saturday, for those with a
photographic bent, a camera set at a fortnight at f2 would about
describe it. During the pre match warm up (several pints of Tetleys, a
sarnie and a read of the Torygraph sports pages and Yorkshire Post) it
was decided that Leeds were going to win 2-0, and the Mancs would
cancel each other out. At the end of the day, this turned out to be the
case, and the general comments on the bus down to Elland Road confirmed
this - it was going to be Leeds' day, and they were heading back to the
top.
The match itself started at 100 mph, Leeds threatening to rip QPR
apart, but not quite succeeding. Chapman had a chance in the 1st
minute, but his first touch let him down, then QPR shot up to the other
end and almost scored themselves. QPR then went quiet, and held on
grimly. Half time came and went, great quantities of dysentry soup and BSE
Pies were consumed by some of the less knowledgeable crowd. Sterland
made it 1-0 on 59 minutes with a 35 yard free kick - taking a 'Mabbutt
style' deflection and beating Steksjal, 3 minutes later, a hard hit
corner from Strachan was prodded on by Sterland, and Wallace scrambled
it over the line making it 2-0, and his first league goal. This time,
it was going to stay at 2-0, and QPR weren't going to get 3 back and
win. Leeds never looked like conceding a goal, and their victory was
complete.
In all honesty, it wasn't a classic, but it was 3 points, and a
comprehensive victory. The next game is Villa away on Sunday, live on
the box, 1st vs 4th, and Villa are going well, 5 straight wins. A
victory there will be great, and will keep Leeds United at the top of
the pile. Hopefully, West Ham will do us a favour at Old Trafford on
Saturday !
Speed was carried off with ankle ligament problems, he was on crutches
leaving the ground, no news of his injury at the moment though.
jb.
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33.184 | Injury news | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Nov 19 1991 13:10 | 14 |
| Speed's injury is a recurrence of the one he got the other week, it is
expected he will be fit for the Villa game, as will Hodge (groin) and
Shutt (thigh strain). Wilko will be able to pick from a complete squad
for the first time in weeks. The only ever presents this season have
been Lukic, Dorigo and Whyte, Wilko has been able to play an unchanged
team on 1 occasion.
Sunday's game will be an important one, Leeds winning will put them
back at the top (it could be the Mancs may get a point on Sat, and will
go top overnight), but they will be 8 points above 4th place - a nice
gap could open up. Villa meet Nottm Forest in the ZDS Cup tonight,
it'll be interesting to see them.
jb.
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33.185 | SHOWSEC man in goal but not secure!!! | WELCLU::CADD | Protect & Survive | Tue Nov 19 1991 18:06 | 27 |
|
jb, I thought that the first 20 mins of the game is the best i have
seen Leeds play all season (only missed 1 game). The passing around
midfield and out to the wings was excellent. It was a pity the luck
didn't seem to go our way as we should have been up to 3 by those first
20 mins. Dorigo was in good form again norrowly missing from about 20
yds. After that first onslaught by Leeds we let QPR settle, but we were
patient and waited for our time to come, looking solid in defence
(McClelland is fit again now isn't he?) with our goal difference getting
better all the time.
I still feel we need a striker as Chapman is struggling to put the
goals away this season, 3 in 16 league games is hardly something to
write home about, whereas Hodge has scored 5 in 5 games. it's not as if
Chapman isn't getting the service either.
Whilst at the game on saturday a Leeds fan was heard exclamating
" why are we at the top of the division when we have player in the
team like that !!!!" to the sight of Varadi missing a sitter at the
family stand end. Does it matter we are where it counts.
Hope this poxy weather clears up before villa on sunday.
p.c.
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33.186 | Patience - not at Leeds ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Nov 19 1991 18:21 | 18 |
| True, Chapman isn't putting them in, but he's proving a handful for the
defenders, alloing the midfield to nip in - goals are coming from every
position this season - even D Batty Esq ! I hope Chapoman starts
putting them in, we could do with another striker, but we are top, have
scored the 3rd highest no of goals. Varadi isn't a top of Div 1 player,
he's like Davison - scores a lot in the reserves, but isn't too sharp
for the 1st's.
This season, the difference is the patience - last season, if the
initial onslaught didn't bring any rewards, the rest of the game
didn't, now they are more patient, and will take the chance when it
presents itself. The next 4 games are a mixed bag, a hard away game at
the Villa, home and away to Everton in the R Cup, and then away to the
(probably) bottom team, Luton Town, where we lost last year, and they
gave us a run for our money at Elland Road. 15 points from the next 7
matches will do nicely ....
jb.
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33.187 | Hodge / Villa | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Nov 20 1991 16:31 | 8 |
| Hodge will play tonight in a reserve game vs Everton, to prove his
fitness for Sundays gave vs Villa.
Villa didn't look too good last night in the Noddy Cup, they had
several players out injured / resting. They won't be a pushover come
Sunday, but Leeds could get the 3 points - they need to !
jb.
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33.188 | Capacity / Prediction | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Nov 21 1991 18:32 | 19 |
33.189 | Live TV dates. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Nov 21 1991 20:11 | 8 |
| It looks like the Leeds Man U game will be moved to Sunday 29 Dec, KO
at 5.30 to suit the Telly Schedules. If this is a taste of the TV run
Premier League ....
The West Ham Leeds game is also a prime target for the Live game on New
Years' Day, KO again 5.30 so as not to clash with any live live games.
jb.
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33.190 | Real test at Villa on Sunday. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Nov 22 1991 14:49 | 9 |
| If WHFC do us a favour tomorrow at MUFC, then we could go 4 points clear on
Sunday evening. What a thought.
It's going to be a tough game with Villa having won their last 5 league games and
they're at home too! However I think that if Leeds fire on all cylinders with
Strachan hopefully back in real form, then a 3-1 victory isn't out of the
question.
James.
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33.191 | Back on top with 4-1 win over Villa. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Sun Nov 24 1991 20:17 | 19 |
| Villa 1 - 4 Leeds
Yorke 67 Wallace 40
Sterland 46
Chapman 57,90
Just after watching Leeds take Villa to the cleaners with an extremely impressive
4-1 victory over a poor Villa side. Takes us over MUFC ( 1 point up ) with a
better goal difference ( could come in important ). Leeds played very well with
Chapman and Strachan playing very well today. Trevor Francis gave the man of the
match to Dorigo who also played well.
I think people are beginning to wake up to the fact that Leeds could win the
title. It has become a bit irritating to keep hearing that Leeds aren't among the
leading challangers. Well if top of the heap after 17 games isn't a challanger
and a major force to be reckoned with, then what is?
James.
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33.192 | Come on Leeds. | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | THE GREAT ALDO | Mon Nov 25 1991 00:03 | 9 |
|
Yes, Leeds were very impressive against Villa and I was so impressed
with Strachan and McGrath who are showing what they never showed at OT,
I always knew that the system at OT was faulty.
A cracking header by Chapman at the end killed off Villa and if the
Pool are not going to win the title, then I would like to see Leeds go
all the way.
Cunno
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33.193 | Everton and Paul Watterson next :-) | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Around the World in 50 days | Mon Nov 25 1991 07:32 | 10 |
|
re: last
well what can I say ? Top again, 4 goals away from home again
(3rd time this season) and this against the '4th best' team,
who had won their last 5 or 6 league games on the trot ... and
the Great Cunno has kindly given us the league title ... :-)
We seem to be getting better at this going top again lark ...
first it was 17 years, then 3 weeks, now 24 hours :-)
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33.194 | ifs and buts | ESSB::BREE | | Mon Nov 25 1991 11:28 | 13 |
| Martin,
"..if the pool are not going to win..."
There's no ifs about it they're gone and very little loss.
best wishes,
Paul
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33.195 | | ASKFOR::HAIGH | Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung? What Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung? | Mon Nov 25 1991 12:03 | 7 |
| I saw 10 minutes of highlights on German TV yesterday and begrudgingly,
I must admit, that Leeds looked good. (Although Villas defence was
a awol a few times.) Strachan was brilliant, and proved 'exactly' what
he did at Old Trafford, that he's far to good for his current team! ;-)
Steve
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33.196 | Entertaining Stuff | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Mon Nov 25 1991 12:07 | 7 |
33.197 | Villa soundly beaten. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Nov 25 1991 12:28 | 58 |
|
Report from my front room :-
Villa 1 Leeds 4
'We got our bottoms kicked' said Big Ron Atkinson as he saw his side
taken apart by a rampant Leeds United. 'It was the best they have
played since I came to Leeds Unites' said Howard Wilkinson. Villa
applied some early pressure, but a shrewd tactical move by Wilkinson,
putting Fairclough man to man on Daley, and McClelland played centre
back with Whyte, allowing Sterland ad MoM Dorigo to push up into
midfield paid off - Daley hardly got a look in. The deadlock was
broken on 40, a Chapman header was parried by Sealey, and Wallace was
were he was supposed to be, and put the ball over the line. Prior to
that, Sealey had made some very good saves, one from Wallace was
especially good. Lukic also made a couple of good saves, but Sealey was
the busier of the two. At half time, the score was 1-0, and Leeds were
looking good.
The half time tea and biscuits were duly served, a much better
proposition that Elland Road BSE pies and dysentery soup.
The 2nd half started as the first one left off - Leeds pressure. No
hanging onto a 1 goal lead. After 1 1/2 minutes, Leeds got a corner,
Sterland made it 2-0 with a header. Leeds practice set pieces a lot -
many of their goals come from them. Leeds continued to press, and Villa
were outplayed. Chapman made it 3-0 from another well-worked set piece,
Starchan taking a short corner, making a run into the box, a hard low
cross was side footed into the net by Chapman. Villa didn't give up the
ghost (to their credit), and Dwight Yorke pulled one back. McGrath
(good player, good performance) was booked for a professional foul on
Wallace, Strachan appeared to ask the ref not to send him off, as
Wallace wasn't through to goal with nobody to beat, Sealey was still in
the way. Chapman wrapped it up on 90 with a 2nd.
Leeds seem to keep their good performances for Villa, they were thumped
4-1 at Elland Road in the R Cup, and 5-2 in the League.
People have now twigged that Leeds are a force to be reckoned with, and
they play very attractive football. The malelovance that some people
reserved for Leeds is now starting to fall away, not before time. The
Revie ghost has at last been laid.
1 point ahead of 1 set of Mancs, 6 points ahead of the others in 3rd
place. 9 points ahead of Villa in 4th place. Of the top teams, man U
won, Man C, Arsenal, Sheff W drew. Palace and Villa lost. Leeds and Man
U are starting to draw ahead, this could set up the 28 Dec game very
niceley !
jb.
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33.198 | leeds (leeds leeds) | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | do you mean 1400 patches? | Mon Nov 25 1991 12:49 | 8 |
| re. 190 and 192
excellent performance by Leeds but perhaps Martins performance was more
impressive, in giving his unbiased report of the game!
i too would prefer to see Leeds win the title than Man Utd, but it
doesnt mean ive given up on Liverpool yet...
Ian.
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33.199 | Top again | ESSB::SONEILL | | Mon Nov 25 1991 15:36 | 9 |
| JB,
Like your concluding summary. I had to remined a few fellow noters
from 32 this morning that the league table didn't start at Man. United
being x points ahead of Arsenal -:) Seems like your paper starts
at the top also.
Cheers,
Shane
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33.200 | Neutral observations... | MIACT::RANKINE | | Tue Nov 26 1991 21:23 | 13 |
| Was impressed by Leeds on Sunday, and thought they looked good for a
long haul at the title...be interesting to see how they look against
sterner opposition...Villa looked bloody ordinary on Sunday.
I was going to ask a question in this notesfile about Batty, and what
it was that he did in a game to have people saying he has a long
international future ahead of him...I decided not to ask this, but look
at his contribution on Sunday instead. I was impressed by his display,
he was everywhere, and seemed to be the fulcrum of a lot of Leeds'
moves. Thought the move from the corner, leading to Chapmans header
was excellent. Good to see that there are still a few Scots with some
skill left eg Strachan (full of running as ever) and McAllister.
Paul
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33.201 | Everton on Saturday | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Nov 28 1991 13:27 | 10 |
| Wilko looks to have a full squad to pick from on Saturday, the game vs
Everton will be no pushover, but I expect a 2-1 or a 3-1, Leeds will
have to watch Johnstone and Quasimodo. The ground should be well full,
though the recession and Xmas shopping will prevent a sell out, a
30,000 crowd willing Leeds United on would be nice though.
If results do go Leeds' way, then they could be 3 or 4 points clear on
Saturday night, and more over 3rd......
jb.
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33.202 | team for Saturday? | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Fri Nov 29 1991 15:45 | 7 |
|
Any comments on whether Wilko will be playing the same team on
saturday?
S
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33.203 | Thought on Leeds and Everton. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Nov 29 1991 15:49 | 14 |
| An interesting match tomorrow with Leeds going full throttle, Everton stumbling
along. We doubled over them in the league last year with a comfortable 2-0 home
victory before Christmas. That game was on the box, I think. However
they got over us in the ZDS cup, agonisingly with a 3-3 result at Elland.
So in total we played them 4 times last season with 2 wins, a draw and a loss. I
have predicted a large win for Leeds of the order 5-1. This may be in retrospect
a bit much, but nonetheless I expect that Leeds will dispose of Everton
clinically to stay tops. A good victory here would set us up for a more difficult
assignment next Wednesday at Everton in the Rumbelows 4th round.
James.
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33.204 | Toffees to get licked | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Nov 29 1991 18:33 | 17 |
| The Man U game scheduled for Sat 28 Dec will now be on Sun 29 Dec, Live
on ITV.
Leeds have 4 of their next 6 league games at home, a nice run to the
end of the year. The aways are Luton and Nottingham Forest. If things
go well, they can get 14 points out of that, but 12 would be excellent
going.
Hodge played last night in a 0-0 draw at Villa in the reserves, he is
available for selection. Tomorrow's team selection shpuld be
interesting, I'll fgo for Lukic, Whyte, Fairclough, Sterland, Dorigo,
Batty, Strachan, McAllister, Chapman, Wallace, Speed with Hodge and
McClelland on the bench.
Score, 3-1 to Leeds. Man U held at Palace 1-1.
jb.
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33.205 | Hard slog ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Around the World in 50 days | Mon Dec 02 1991 04:55 | 8 |
|
Leeds United (0) 1 Everton (0) 0
Wallace 87'
Still top but what happened ? Fairclough sent off after 69 minutes
for retaliation (to what ?) then Wallace scored in his 3rd
successive game.
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33.206 | | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Mon Dec 02 1991 15:56 | 8 |
|
Who was the last Leeds Player to be sent off? Was it Strachan?
Whay action, if any, will Wilko take against Fairclough?
S
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33.207 | Don't venture too often in here ;-) | TRUCKS::SANT | | Mon Dec 02 1991 21:25 | 11 |
|
For a generally non-dirty (I was going to say fair..) player like
Fairclough to get sent off you'd expect a cheating little s*ite
like Mark Ward to be the cause of it. Silly to cuff him like he
did but I'm sure he deserved it. 8-)
Good win for Leeds....keeps the race going nicely, and both Leeds
and United are pulling away from the bunch.
Andy.
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33.208 | Unightered ! | ESSB::SONEILL | | Mon Dec 02 1991 22:46 | 4 |
| Does anyone have an up to date league table for the 32'ers?
Welcome to the table toppers topic!
Shane
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33.209 | Leeds go marching on | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Dec 03 1991 13:32 | 33 |
| Late report, but I was also on holiday yesterday (day trip Xmas
shopping in Utrecht no less !)
Leeds won, just. Fairclough was sent off by a very poor referee who had
lost control of the game, after fouling Ward. Ward then punched out at
Fairclough, who then barged Ward. Ward got a caution, Fairclough sent
off - very bad refereeing - both players should have received the same
punishment. Leeds and Fairclough have been given leave to appeal to the
FA over this, supplying video eveidence.
Everton had enough chances to win, but they couldn't score. Lukic made
a couple of very good saves, one from Quasimodo and followed up by Beagrie
was outstanding. Leeds do play for 90 minutes, and on 87, a
short corner was worked between Strachan (m.o.m) and Whyte, crossed in,
flicked on by Chapman, Southall missed, Wallace didn't and hammered it
into the roof of the net. 3 more valuable points ! Southall got a
wonderful ;-) reception, he was reminded of his waistsize, nationality
and birth status all in one go (work that out). In all fairness, he had
a good game, and souldn't be held responsible for the Leeds winner.
With Man C, Palace, Villa drawing / losing, a nice gap is opening up.
The BBC Sports report was gushing about Mighty Liverpools recent
amazing run (avoiding defeat in 5 games), but the troubled Reds are 14
points behind Leeds (I know they have games in hand but we've got the
points !) The Mancs did well vs Palace, and they have a strong squad
and are playing well, it looks like a trans pennine tussle looming up!
The game on Wed at Goodison should be interesting. It will be a tight
affair, and the referee will have to keep it all under control. I
predict a close result for Leeds, possibly a replay. 2-1 to Leeds,
another last minute winner !
jb.
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33.210 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Tue Dec 03 1991 16:01 | 8 |
| >In all fairness, he had
>a good game, and souldn't be held responsible for the Leeds winner.
I hold him responsible; he made a pathetic flap at the ball.
Leeds are having a real run of luck at home; they seemed to be making
hard work of winning; eg Oldham, Sheffield United, Everton -- but the
sods keep winning; can't last though [can it?]
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33.211 | Lucky ? Naaaaah..... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Dec 03 1991 18:18 | 14 |
| Simon,
Of course it can !!
The Everton result went well, but there have been other games away from
home where Leeds came away with 1 point whwn it could have been 3.
Liverpool have been the past masters of the 1-0 win with the goal
scored in the 87th minute whwn the other lot have given up. This
season, Leeds have played for 90 minutes, and have'nt given up.
A Trans Pennine title battle now looks possible - better than a Mersey
London one don't you agree ?
jb.
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33.212 | Bit of a squeeze | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Wed Dec 04 1991 14:12 | 9 |
| Leeds were a bit lucky on Saturday but as already said Liverpool in their
day got more than their fair share of results like that. So sour grapes are the
order of the days for those who think that Leeds didn't deserve the victory.
Tonight is a different story with Everton at home this time! Do Leeds really want
the Rumbelows badly! If they do, then a draw is the least they should be looking
at tonight. Prediction 0-0 with Leeds to get through on a replay.
James.
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33.213 | Euro Championships for Elland Road ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Dec 04 1991 17:29 | 20 |
| Stand News
If the English bid for the 1996 Euro Championships is successful
(England are favourites at the moment), then 4 grounds will be needed,
Wembley, Villa Park and Old Trafford have already been decided on, the
4th will be in the North East / Yorkshire. Hillsborough has been
discounted, because of the tradgedy there, that leaves St James's Park
(still open terraces at 2 ends), Roker Park (Decrepit and Sunderland
are wanting out) and Elland Road (plans in hand to turn it into a
40,000 all seater stadium). Elland Road looks to be favourite.
The stand work should start in May, Lowfields seating season ticket
holders will be dispersed around the ground. Capacity will be 25,000
next season, all of these being season ticket holders.
For some games, the visitors enclosure seats will be sold to Leeds
United fans, the first game this will happen for will be the Soton game
on Boxing day. Stewards and Police are not expecting any trouble.
jb.
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33.214 | Euro '96 | YUPPY::SEABURYS | | Wed Dec 04 1991 18:43 | 6 |
| re .last
Probably the only time you'll get European football at Elland Road 8-)
Stew.
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33.215 | Almost too good to be true ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Around the World in 50 days | Thu Dec 05 1991 03:54 | 15 |
|
Rumbelows Cup 4th Round
Everton (1) 1 Leeds United (2) 4
Speed, McAllister,
Wallace 2
What a result ! Here's hoping it's Peterborough at home rather than
Man Utd away in the next round. Another 4 goals away from home, and
it's 5 goals from 4 games for Wallace now.
I hope it doesn't go to their heads too much, they have Luton away
on Saturday - the last time Leeds won a league game there Don Revie
scored !
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33.216 | Everton 1 - 4 Leeds (Leeds Leeds) | TRUCKS::SANT | | Thu Dec 05 1991 11:24 | 15 |
|
Leeds blasted Everton last night in another display of power
football. Once again McAllister and Strachan ran the midfield
for long periods, and despite going a goal down thanks to a rare
slip by Lukic totally destroyed an ineffectual Everton side
lacking ideas in the middle and punch up front.
Leeds are certainly banging in the goals at the moment, and anyone
who thought Leeds and Manchester United were going to blow up
after 20 games or so had better start thinking again - both these
sides look like dominating the domestic honours this season whilst
a host of others look for any sort of consistancy. It promises to
be an exciting season for followers of both these clubs.
Andy.
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33.217 | Toffees Licked | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Dec 05 1991 12:11 | 19 |
| Toffees 1 Leeds United 4
Everton got well and truly beaten last night. They went ahead on 20
with an Atteveld goal, Lukic got a hand to it, but it ballooned into
the net. Speed got an equaliser on 28, and Chapman made it 2-1 after
37, hammering in a low cross from Sterland. I was at the opening of our
Customer Centre in Lawnswood (with Mr Maguire Diddlying), it was 1-1
when I left. I had just got home, put on the Radio, and Wallace got the
3rd. I thought it was a replay when he got the 4th ! There were
highlights on YTV at 10:40 - Leeds looked very impressive, and were
quite different from the team out on Saturday. Starchan went off on 84,
to be replaced by Hodge - he had taken a slight knock, but is expected
to be OK for Saturday's trip to relegation favourites Luton.
The Mancs got through a tricky tie against t'Latics, Tottenham fluked a
win. For the next round, anybody at home will do - we can also beat
anybody away.
jb.
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33.218 | Leeds the invincible | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Thu Dec 05 1991 12:25 | 10 |
| What a performance last night with Leeds crushing the life out of a poor Everton
side. We are playing a game right now that will make life very difficult on
anybody we play either home or away. It seems that our away performances are
overshadowing our home, certainly scoring more away from home than at home. What
a happy state to be in! Getting the luck and the goals all at the same time.
When is the draw for the next round going to be? Hopefully Peterborough at home.
James.
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33.219 | Hey you get off my cloud !!!! | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Thu Dec 05 1991 12:49 | 19 |
|
James,
The draw is on saturday on S & G at 1.10 from across the big
pond, they are there for the world cup draw on sunday.
Missed another game last night (damn), but heard the commentary on
radio 5 and saw the goals on the box. No sooner had i said about
Chapman knocking the goals in does he start supplying the goods.
Luton on saturday with Chris Kamara playing, and there new loan
goalkeeper Steve Sutton from Forest. We lost there last season but i
don't think it will be the case this season. My conservative (small c)
prediction (based on recent away goals) Luton 2 Leeds 7
scorers : Wallace 3, Chapman 3 and Lukic 1
P.C.
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33.220 | Luton allsorts tomorrow | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Dec 06 1991 14:25 | 16 |
| With Leeds going so well at the moment it would be a shame to goto Luton tomorrow
and ruin all that good work with anything less than a win. The way we are
playing at the moment anything other than a comprehensive win would be a big
surprise, but beware complacency. Look what happened to MCFC two weeks ago :-).
Luton are a poor side and will probably be relegated at the end of the season so
why can't Leeds help them out, a little, on their quest tomorrow.
Great to see Wallace and Chapman combining where it counts, on the score sheet. I
expect a 3-0 victory tomorrow with Lukic having another clean sheet to add to his
12 already collected this season, from only 23 games. Leeds have won 9 of their
last 10 competitive games ( excluding the Zombies cup games )!
James.
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33.221 | Win tomorrow ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Dec 06 1991 16:24 | 5 |
| I'll go for a 2-0, or a 2-1 if we're unlucky. The team is picked from a
full strength squad. I expect the same line up as started against
Everton.
jb.
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33.222 | 2-0 it was ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Around the World in 50 days | Mon Dec 09 1991 01:02 | 16 |
|
Luton Town (0) 0 Leeds United (0) 2
Wallace, Speed
Assuming I got the goalscorers right this time, that makes
it 6 goals from 5 games for Wallace. Still top, still have
Man Utd right behind but the gap grows between 2nd and 3rd.
F.A. Cup draw is interesting to say the least ! Man Utd at
home which means they have two trips to Elland Road within
a week.
Any news on the Rumbelows Cup draw ? or have we got Man Utd
in that as well.
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33.223 | This is getting silly ! | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Around the World in 50 days | Mon Dec 09 1991 01:19 | 7 |
|
I guess I spoke too soon ! Rumbelows Cup 5th Round draw :
Leeds United vs Manchester United
At least we have home advantage in both the Cup games, which
means three visits to Elland Road for Man Utd in 10 days.
|
33.224 | Still top - and will remain there ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 09 1991 12:39 | 19 |
| Luton Town 0 Leeds United 2
'Luton put up a good show, and they aren't the worst team in the First
Division' said Barclays Manager of the Month for November Howard
Wilkinson as he saw his impressive Leeds United side dispose of a
battling Luton Town on Saturday afternoon at Kenilworth Road. Goals by
Wallace on 68 and Speed on 70 kept Leeds United at the top of Division
1 by 1 point from their rivals from the damp drizzly and depressing side
of the Pennines, who will be playing at Elland Road 3 times in 10 days,
once in the League (home win), once in the FA Cup (home win) and once
in the Rumbelow's League Cup (home win).
Well, Leeds and the Mance roll on, and the trailing pack have their
mixture of wins, draws and losses. The Arse lost again, Liverpool
continue their mediocrity, Man City fail yet again, Villa come back to
form and Sheff Wed clinch a last minute winner. The New Year period
will be interesting to say the least !
jb.
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33.225 | Er...I don't think it was all that close actually | TRUCKS::SANT | | Mon Dec 09 1991 13:56 | 10 |
|
jb..
I thought your comment earlier was a ;-) but I guess someone
should point out that Shef. Wed. won 3-0 against Chelsea...hardly
last-minute stuff there 8-)
Andy.
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33.226 | Wrong Again | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 09 1991 14:19 | 7 |
| re -1
I stand corrected - it was last week vs West Amm that was the last
minute jobbie. Regarding Chelsea - I will become a temporary Chelsea
fan for 90 minutes next Sunday Afternoon !!
jb.
|
33.227 | Live Match Part 2 | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 09 1991 16:40 | 20 |
33.229 | The Mancs do get some. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 09 1991 18:20 | 7 |
33.230 | What all you Leeds fans have been crying out for, the upto date match stats for the season. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Mon Dec 09 1991 20:35 | 86 |
| Many hours of work went into the compilation of these stats. However, I am
missing some crowd figures. Could somebody help me out by confirming the
contents of the statistics?
Few comments worth mentioning
1. Our second half performance is much improved on last season when Leeds
scored an alarmingly high proportion of their goals in the first half.
Not so this season :-).
2. We have 11 players who have scored this season, already. With 5 players on
more than 5 goals. This means that even if Chappie or Rod are being well marked
the danger is far from being contained. Not like for instance some teams that
rely on literally one player for all their goals. Cue Martin.
3. Lukic has 13 clean sheets out of 24 games. Very good defence and goal keeping.
4. Leeds have had their lean spot this season, around September :-). MUFC
haven't had their yet ;-).
Extract and print in landscape is my suggestion!
Season record to date of Leeds United F.C in league and Cup competitions.
Date Team W-L F-T H-T Crowd Po Scorers
Tue 20 Aug NOTTINGHAM FOREST H W 1-0 1-0 29457 - McAllister
Sat 24 Aug SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY H D 1-1 0-0 30260 10 Hodge
Wed 28 Aug Southampton a W 4-0 1-0 15862 4 Speed 2, Strachan 2 Pens.
Sat 31 Aug Manchester United a D 1-1 1-0 43778 6 Chapman
Tue 3 Sep ARSENAL H D 2-2 0-1 29386 6 Strachan pen, Chapman
Sat 7 Sep MANCHESTER CITY H W 3-0 1-0 29986 4 Dorigo,Batty,Strachan pen.
Sat 14 Sep Chelsea a W 1-0 0-0 23439 2 Shutt
Wed 18 Sep Coventry City a D 0-0 0-0 15488 2 -
Sat 21 Sep LIVERPOOL H W 1-0 1-0 32917 2 Hodge
Sat 28 Sep Norwich City a D 2-2 0-0 15828 2 Dorigo,Speed
Tue 1 Oct Crystal Palace a L 0-1 0-0 ?? 2 -
Sat 5 Oct SHEFFIELD UNITED H W 4-3 3-0 28362 2 Hodge 2, Sterland 2 pen.
Sat 19 Oct Notts County a W 4-2 2-1 12964 2 Chapman,Hodge,Whyte,McAllister
Sat 26 Oct OLDHAM ATHLETIC H W 1-0 0-0 28199 1 O.G.
Sat 2 Nov Wimbledon a D 0-0 0-0 9025 2 -
Sat 16 Nov QPR H W 2-0 0-0 27087 1 Sterland,Wallace
Sun 24 Nov Aston Villa a W 4-1 1-0 23666 1 Wallace,Sterland,Chapman 2
Sat 30 Nov EVERTON H W 1-0 0-0 30043 1 Wallace
Sat 7 Dec Luton Town a W 2-0 0-0 ?? 1 Wallace,Speed.
Cup Competitions
Tue 24 Sep LC R2 L1 Scunthorpe a D 0-0 0-0 ?? -
Tue 8 Oct LC R2 L2 SCUNTHORPE H W 3-0 0-0 14588 Sterland pen,Chapman,Speed
Tue 22 Oct ZDS R? NOTTM FOREST H L 1-3 0-2 ?? Wallace
Tue 29 Oct LC R3 TRANMERE R. H W 3-1 0-0 18266 Chapman2,Shutt
Wed 4 Dec LC R4 Everton a W 4-1 2-1 25467 Speed,Chapman,Wallace 2
===
Scorers
League Cup Total
Chapman 5 4 9
Wallace 4 3 7
Speed 4 2 6
Hodge 5 0 5
Sterland 4 1 5
Strachan 4 0 4
McAllister 2 0 2
Dorigo 2 0 2
Shutt 1 1 2
Whyte 1 0 1
Batty 1 0 1
O.G. 1 0 1
----- ----- -----
34 11 45
James.
P.S
The only statistic worth its salt is the one we currently possess that of
having most points in the first division.
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33.231 | The odds of things to come. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Dec 10 1991 11:58 | 12 |
| Talking about the odds of things happening re. the cup draws.
I estimate that the odds in Leeds drawing MUFC in both cups
at home was a massive
1764/1
Its a pity that MUFC will have no interest in any further
odds, once we get our teeth into them that week.
James.
|
33.232 | eh? | DUCK::DAVIESG | | Tue Dec 10 1991 21:12 | 10 |
| re -1,
1764/1 ?
I heard Elton Welsbey(sp) say on the match last Sunday that it was
50,000/1 . Sounds a bit suspect, but then, so is last remark about
leeds beating the mancs.
greg
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33.233 | The silence is deafening | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Thu Dec 12 1991 12:04 | 6 |
| For the league leaders note to be so quiet is unnatural. Anybody got
any comments to make on the list I compiled a few days back. Is it
OK and correct.
James.
|
33.234 | Tickets / Spurs | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Dec 12 1991 13:05 | 26 |
| re .230
Interesting stuff.
The ticket allocations for the manc games have been agreed, 2,500 for
the League (as everybody gets) and 6,500 for the 2 Cup games, the
Family Stand members will be relocated to the West Stand. If there is a
replay, Leeds United will get 9,500 tickets. The singing of the
'Aeroplane Song' has been banned at Elland Road, anybody caught singing
it will be banned from the ground for life. This also applies to doing
aeroplane impersonations, and chucking gliders and inflatable
aeroplanes around the kop (about time too !). This is in bad taste, and
it only 'spurs' the Mancs on.
Talking of Spurs, they are at Elland Road on Saturday, it is almost a
forgotten match because of the talk surrounding the 3 match marathon in
January. Lineker may play, so our lot will have to be on their guard.
I'll fo for a 3-1 victory. 30,000 fans are expected, even though it is
less than 2 weeks before Xmas, the team are playing well and at the top
of the tree, and can go 4 points clear (even if it's only overnight,
then every Leeds United fan will support Chelsea for 90 minutes +
injury time and 1/2 time time.) For the Tott's gane, Fairclough will be
missing, he is starting a 3 match ban for his dubious dismissal vs
Everton.
jb.
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33.235 | Six of One , Half a Dozen of the other!! | WELCLU::CADD | I Got a T.V., You Got a T.V. | Thu Dec 12 1991 19:42 | 38 |
|
Re -.1
jb, i have a customer whose husband writes for Red Issue the Man U
fanzine. I would like to make a few comments after flicking through
this months issue.
I believe that it is a good thing that the Leeds staff have taken
the action that they have over the 'Aeroplane song', but it must be
said that when i read in that fanzine Man U fans should sing 'Always look
out for motor neurone disease' i find the credibility of the opposition a
little dubious??. The remarks in both fanzines, (Red Issue and The
Square ball) may be taken more seriously by the less intelligent 'FAN'
which could lead to the rather more ugly side of our game coming to a
head in the near future.
When will the writers of these fanzines realise that to some people
the articles thay are writing are pure poison, and can only serve to
prolong the disharmony within the fans of the game. I sincerely hope
that no Man U fans do turn up at Elland Rd with 'Blow up skeletons' (a
dig at the great Revie) because poor taste bans should be applicable to
all fans, there are NO exceptions. Hope I don't sound too serious (just
before crimbo), but i think that these things have to be aired and
where better than in notes
James, the gate for the Palace game away was 18,298. Hope this is of
use to you.
P.C.
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33.236 | CCTV is watching you. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Dec 12 1991 19:50 | 14 |
| Man U will be bringing some of their stewards with them to stop any
nonsense that may break out. If the manc fans start playing silly
buggers they too will be ejected and charged. Elland Road now has a
very sophisticated CCTV system that will make identification of
offendors easy. It is hoped there will be no repetition of Manc
'Executive Club' guests throwing coins at the Leeds Kop - if there are
any idiots wanting to do this from the 'Captain's Lounge' they better
remenber they are right next to the Police Control Centre !
I expect common sense will prevail, and there won't be any trouble,
apart from the dozen or so drunks that are always found at any sporting
occasion (esp 'Wugger')
jb.
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33.237 | streaker at -10 | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Paul Wattersons love-child | Thu Dec 12 1991 19:53 | 9 |
| > I expect common sense will prevail, and there won't be any trouble,
> apart from the dozen or so drunks that are always found at any sporting
> occasion (esp 'Wugger')
ill bet there wont be a streaker though!
:-0
Ian.
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33.238 | Thoughts on Fairclough | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Around the World in 50 days | Fri Dec 13 1991 05:51 | 9 |
|
re: Fairclough
Although he will be missed in the next 3 games, especially against
Forest next week (away as well), at least he will be available for
the first game vs Man Utd. HW may use him as man-to-man marking on
Giggs like he did against Daley in the Villa game. It will be
interesting to see if HW and Ferguson change tactics between each
game, presumably depending upon the result of the previous game.
|
33.239 | 2nd string/Tv | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Dec 13 1991 12:44 | 17 |
| Second String news :-
Davison has had his loan spell to Derby County cut short by the
recurrence of a knee injury, he will be out for several weeks.
Williams has gone on loan to Port Vale for a month.
McClelland will take over from Fairclough in the 3 games vs Tottenham,
Forest and Soton.
The League Cup game on Wed 8 Jan will be live (ko 8.07pm) on YTV and
Granada - 3 live TV matches in 10 days !
Lineker is expected to play tomorrow after his lay off for personal
reasons - I'm sure he will get a warm welcome from the Elland Road
crowd.
jb.
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33.240 | Tottenham tomorrow and not so easy | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Dec 13 1991 18:17 | 15 |
| Tottenham at home tomorrow and not such an easy game. They were one of the only
sides last year to beat us at home ( 2-0, September ). I do think that Leeds are
a lot better than Spurs at the moment and will win 2-0 with Wallace chipping
in another goal or two to the cause. MUFC are starting to get worried as Leeds
could put them out of all three competitions in 8 days. I get the feeling in
some of their hysterical notes that they are very worried about this
Leeds team :-). Roll on the good times. The turkey is getting fat and Leeds are
going to win the league.
Have got most of the ??'s filled up from my note earlier in the week but I need
some info on the crowd at the 2nd round away tie at the Scun to be upto date.
James.
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33.241 | 'It Looks like a "White" Christmas!!!' | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Fri Dec 13 1991 23:28 | 34 |
|
James i was there and the gate was 8,392 (not a bad ground).
Leeds are on the tele again on 12/1/92 at home to Sheffield Weds. The
game has been put back to the sunday. Leeds must be making a few bob
with all the live performances coming up. I'm beginning to wonder if it
was worthwhile buying my season ticket as i can see most of the games
on t.v. (only joking).
So the T.V schedule to-date looks like this
Sunday 29 Dec 1991 Leeds V Man U k.o. 4.00p.m.
Sunday 05 Jan 1992 Leeds V Man U k.o. 3.00p.m.
Wednesday 08 Jan 1992 Leeds V Man U k.o. 8.00p.m (?)
Sunday 12 Jan 1992 Leeds V Sheff W k.o. 3.00p.m.
Hope this is all correct,I know some smart alec will say so if it
isn't.
The Totts tomorrow Lineker may be back in the side. They did beat
us at home last season , but it was very early on in the season i think
before we had settled. Three points tomorrow will take us four points
ahead of Man U overnight at least, with the mancs having to play away at
the bridge on sunday.I will be at the Leeds game on saturday to see if
the fans behave themselves???
P.C.
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33.242 | Rumbelows Cup | OPG::TONY | | Sat Dec 14 1991 16:13 | 4 |
| The game against United on the 8th of JAN apparently kicks off at 8:06..
Its Live on TV only in the Granada and Sheeep Country stations...
Tony
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33.243 | Leeds on the box again | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Sat Dec 14 1991 16:17 | 7 |
| The Leeds V Tottenham game is also on RTE this afternoon so I'm off come 3:00 P.M
Will have to go hungry as that when I go shopping :-( but its worth it to see
Leeds win again. Probably won't be able to tune into some of the Leeds V MUFC
games in January if they are only going to be shown on regional stations?
James.
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33.244 | Press the eject and give me the tape!! | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Sun Dec 15 1991 20:22 | 22 |
|
Well we have lost the top slot after Man U won 1-3 against Chelsea.Man
U now have a better goal difference than us, and a game in hand.
Leeds relly should have buried Tottenham in the first 20mins of the
second half, credit to them they soaked up a lot of pressure.
Forest away next week, another tough game thay are playing well at
home,but we must win to keep the pressure up on the mancs.
I correct my note on t.v. coverage , we play Sheffield Wednesday away
on 12/1/92.
I must add that not one Leeds fan sang 'that song' from the terraces
which was very pleasing to see (& hear).
P.C.
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33.245 | A draw. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 16 1991 14:01 | 39 |
| Leeds 1 Spurs 1
2 points lost perhaps, but Spurs put up a good show like thwy are
capable of but never seem to do on occasions. The Spurs goal on 19 was
due to a cock up in the Leeds defence, Whyte and Dorigo getting
themselves in a tangle, one of them should have booted the ball out for
a throw. Leeds played strangely for the first half hour, found
themselves 1 down, and then played some excellent football, threatening
to rip Tottenham apart, but never quite managing it. A Thorsvedt fumble
gave Speed the chance to equalise, which he duly did. The second half
started with unrelenting Leeds pressure, Whyte fitting the post,
Wallace the bar, and Tottenham were living a charmed existence, but
looking very good on the break, the Leeds defence were busy at times,
and Lukic had to be on his toes.
At the end, a draw was a reasonable result, but it should have been a
win, but it wasn't a loss ! Man U looked impressive yesterday
afternoon, they really did get stuck into Chelsea, who did fight back,
with a bit more luck the game would have been closer. On the evidence
so far, Leeds and Man U will be swopping places at the top of the
table fo some weeks to come. Teams below us either didn't play, drew or
lost. Liverpool could get to within 10 points of Leeds if they beat the
Skints, but I think that particular run of the mill mid table game
(live n TV don't ask me why) will end up 1-1 on Wednesday night.
Next game is Forest away - not easy at all, a draw will be good, but a
win so much better. Soton visit on Boxing Day - a home win there I
think. Man U have Villa at OT and Oldham away - not easy, 2 draws looks
a distinct possibility there. The big game will be on 29 Dec at Elland
Road, the teams will be way ahead of the chasing pack, with more or
less the same number of points, and a very similar goal difference -
should be a great game, played in an 'intense' atmosphere. I'm looking
forward to it.
On the injury front, Sterland picked up a knock, and Dorigo has had to
withdraw from yhr England B team with a thigh strain, he may also miss
the Forest game on Sunday (is it live ?)
jb.
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33.246 | | JGODCL::SHERLOCK | The Yorkshire Republican | Mon Dec 16 1991 14:35 | 6 |
| jb,
Highlights of the Leeds - Spurs game were show here on Dutch T.V. and
I noticed that Leeds were wearing black armbands, who died ?
Tim
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33.247 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Mon Dec 16 1991 14:41 | 3 |
| arm bands were in rememberance of Bill Fox, President(?) of the FA. All
league teams wore armbands this weekend and had a minutes silence
before the game (well - they did at Chelsea!)
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33.248 | Silence !! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 16 1991 14:47 | 10 |
| There was a minutes silence at Elland Road as at all games played this
weekend. Bill Fox was the League President I think, but like all sports
administrators of his ilk he was a fossilised dinosaur thsat didn't
want change, or if there was change, it was to benefit his people and
no others. Fox also had a dislike for Leeds United, and seemed to use
his power against them in days gone by. However, the minute's silence
was observed - it wouldn't have several years ago.
jb.
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33.249 | no disrespect intended, but... | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Paul Wattersons love-child | Mon Dec 16 1991 14:48 | 5 |
|
could you TELL at Stamford Bridge?!?
Ian.
:-)
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33.250 | Comments on Saturday | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Mon Dec 16 1991 15:03 | 21 |
| Saw the game on the box on Saturday and I agree with JB that Leeds were lucky not
to lost and not to win, all in the same breath. I did pick up a few impressions
that don't auger well for the future, unless they are fixed, now.
1. Chapman was described as a "brick wall" by Giles in commentary, as any ball
that came his way bounced straight back off him into the path of the player
playing it. It wasn't Chapmans kind of game as he needs to be on the end of
things rather than trying to create them.
2. The quality of the crosses wasn't as good as we saw at Villa a couple weeks
back. Also the set plays were too elaborately played. The amount of shots
outside the box was a bit much. Why not try to play them in a bit more, around
the box.
3. Leeds were very lucky, twice, in the second half not to concede goals on the
break. Walsh should have put at least one of them away, as Lineker would have in
the same position.
James.
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33.251 | Still unbeaten though | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 16 1991 17:24 | 15 |
| Spurs pushed the game into midfield, stopping Dorigo and Sterland from
coming forward, hence less crosses to Chapman. The fact that both
Dorigo and Sterland picked up injuries dodn't help either. Leeds are
generally lethal at set pieces, in the last minutes there was a free
kick on the edge of the Spurs box, the fact that Sterland and Dorigo
didn't blast it adds credence to the injuries being carried by both of
them. Still, it was a point more towards the total, and the Mancs are
only 1 point ahead.
Maybe HW will sign another striker top play alongside Chapman in
certain games. The team will have learnt from this display, and the
goal given away was very soft, and no doubt the subject of some
interesting discussion at half and full time.
jb.
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33.252 | Crystal Ball gazing | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 16 1991 20:06 | 34 |
| As it is getting near Christmas, holidays loom, and also last minute
closes for Q2 are needed - so I'll be out of the office for most of
this week, so I'll post the Festive Predictions here ...
Forest 1 Leeds 2 - Last gasp winner from Wallace
Leeds 3 Soton 0 - Soton after a long trip are comprehensively walloped
Leeds 2 Man U 1 - a late winner from a 'Partisan' Elland Road secures
the points for Leeds taking them 4 points clear at the top, as Man U
draw vs Oldham and beat the Villa.
West Ham 1 Leeds 1 - a good draw away from home, but the Mancs win and
are 2 points behind with a slightly better goal difference.
Setting it up for :-
'The Empire Strikes Back' FACR3 - 1-0 to Leeds
and
'The Return of the Jedi' RLCQF
who promptly goes back accross the M62, beaten 1-0 again.
The Arse and Liverpool stutter along, still getting points, but are now
15 adrift of the top 2.
The Mancs and Leeds slip a bit in Feb, and allow the pack to close to
within 9 points, but it goes to the wire this time.
The crystal ball then fogs up a bit (just like the weather).
Hopefully, there won't be too many injuries, the Leeds squad isn't as
deep as the Mancs/Arse/Pool, so 3 bad injuries may knacker the season
up somewhat.
jb.
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33.253 | The dangers of a small squad | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Tue Dec 17 1991 08:51 | 17 |
|
I saw extended highlights of the Spurs game last night. The
defence looked all over the place early on but towards the
end of the 1st half and for most of the 2nd half Leeds looked
good, especially when moving forward quickly with passes being
sprayed around the pitch. McAllister had obviously decided to
shoot every time he was within 25 yards of Spurs' goal. We
were lucky Lineker wasn't playing though. He wouldn't have
missed the chances Spurs had on the break.
It will be a big blow if both Dorigo and Sterland are out
next week, with Fairclough already suspended. Hopefully they
will both recover. Going by Southampton's performance in
their first game with Forest they will decimate the Forest
team tonight or tomorrow (in injuries not in skill). The
worrying thing is that we've got them only 3 days before the
first Man Utd game.
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33.254 | The injuries come with the frost and mud.. | MIACT::RANKINE | | Wed Dec 18 1991 12:15 | 13 |
| re .252
Yeah, I agree that a few injuries to players could cause Leeds to
stutter a bit....is there any money available to HW for more players ?.
There was an interesting article in Saturdays Guardian about Lee
Chapman and in an interview he praises HW as being the only manager who
has been able to bring the best out in him. He feels he is now a better
player, and playing the best he has in his career. I think a lot of
this is to do with the service and support around him..Leeds really do
appear to have a very strong team spirit, and play accordingly.
Paul
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33.255 | Leeds Utd and Europe ... | KLUNK::JDUGGAN | | Wed Dec 18 1991 20:14 | 9 |
| Does anyone know .... how many european cups competition finals
Leeds Utd. have played in (UEFA, Cup Winners, European). I'm
interested in finding out the year, the opposition, the place where
it was played -- and the results of course.
Thanks in advance,
Jimmy.
PS Good to see Leeds almost at the top !
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33.256 | Wonder when this will need updating ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Thu Dec 19 1991 01:09 | 31 |
|
well if no-one else does I'll put it the exact details later, but
from memory
European Cup
1975 Bayern Munich 2 Leeds United 0 in Paris
Cup Winners Cup
1973 A C Milan 1 Leeds United 0 in Greece (think it was Athens)
Fairs Cup (forerunner to the UEFA Cup)
1966-67 lost to 2-0 to a Yugoslav team (I think). 0-2 away then
0-0 at home (Dynamo Zagreb ?)
1967-68 Leeds United 1 Ferencvaros (sp) 0
Ferencvaros 0 Leeds United 0 Won 1-0 on aggregate
1970-71 Juventus 2 Leeds United 2
Leeds United 1 Juventus 1 Won on away goals rule
After the 1970-71 Fairs Cup Final the trophy was replaced by the
UEFA Cup. The original winners played the last winners for
permananet possession.
Barcelona 2 Leeds United 1
Leeds also lost two European Semi-Finals
1965-66 (I think) in the Fairs Cup to Upjest Doza
1969-70 to Celtic in the European Cup
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33.257 | Lowfields Redevelopment | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Dec 19 1991 16:31 | 21 |
| The Lowfields Redevelopment has been announced today. The current
Lowfields Stand will be replaced with a 2 tier all seat stand, with
Exec Boxes, Catering and Hospitality Suites, and some Office
accomodation. Work will start in the summer. Ground capacity will be
cut to 30,000, down from 32,700. There are no plans to ban away
supporters, but if Leeds supporters can't go to Manchester, they they
won't be provided for at Elland Road. Man U's announcement of this came
at a poor time for relations between them and Leeds, as Leeds had made
great efforts to accommodate Manc fans in the forthcoming Cup games.
No team news as yet for the Forest game, I expect the same side will
start, Dorigo could well be fit for Sunday. It will be a hard game,
hopefully Leeds will win 2-1, and Villa will peg the Mancs back. The
Scousers have smarmed their way to 4th place, but they are 12 and 11
points behind the leaders. They need watching though, perhaps Man City
can beat them on Saturday, as they still look a little fragile.
Peter Lorimer was made bankrupt on Tuesday, he did run the Commercial
Hotel in Holbeck, 1 mile from the ground, but he is now unemployed.
jb.
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33.258 | TV question | KAOFS::S_LASSEY | Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.... | Fri Dec 20 1991 00:08 | 10 |
| Saw the Leeds - Spurs game on TV over here in Canada on TSN (The Sports
Network) last Saturday. Great game, Leeds should have won!
My question is, who supplies the broadcast for these Saturday afternoon
(or morning where I am) games. TSN never gives any credit to whoever it
comes from. The commentator is usually Martin Tyler. We get it live,
same there?
Thanks,
Steve (Leeds_fan_since_1970)
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33.259 | Leeds in Europe | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Fri Dec 20 1991 01:14 | 11 |
|
re: .256
Corrections.
1973 CWC Final was in Salonika
1965-66 Leeds went out in the Fairs Cup Semi-Final to Real
Zaragoza (0-1 away, 2-1 home no away goals rule so
replay 1-3, at Elland Road as well !)
1966-67 Final was against Dynamo Zagreb. Scores were 0-2
and 0-0.
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33.260 | Xmas matches loom. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Dec 20 1991 13:19 | 21 |
| Sunday sees Leeds at Forest, and Mr Clough (of 44 days fame). Clough
has in the past berated Leeds, but now he seems to be seeing the light,
and had described the current team as 'very good' and the club as
being 'well run'. It won't be easy against a quick and skilful Forest
side, but hopefully Leeds can come away with 3 points, a 2-1 scoreline
being a likely outcome.Chapman goes back to his old club, and he
usually scores against them.
Soton on Boxing Day, and then Match no 1 vs the Mancs - let's hope
there are no injury worries - Fairclough will be available again after
his 3 match suspension. Batty and Whyte are in danger of being
suspended for going over the points threshold - one more booking each
and they'll be banned for 1 match, so they better be careful - Leeds
need to be at full strength vs the Mancs.
4 wins over the holiday season will be fine, it then leaves Leeds in a
good position to knock the Mancs out of both Cups !
Merry Xmas to EVERYBODY.
jb.
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33.261 | Forest comments | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Sun Dec 22 1991 16:35 | 21 |
| YAIG today, for those of you that don't know what YAIG means, it stands for Yet
Another Important Game. This is something that Leeds will see alot of this term.
With MUFC not playing yesterday this allows Leeds to step 2 points clear today
with a win at Forest. Not an easy thing but I am hopeful. If we don't win today
it hands the initiative to MUFC as they will be on top with 2 games in hand and
most importantly give them a psychological advantage going into the games with
us over the Christmas.
lost there 4-3, the last game of last season with Chappie scoring 2 to take his
total for the season to 31. Leeds will need to play better that against Spurs
last week to beat Forest. We also have to exact revenge for their drubbing of us
in the vitally important Zombies cup in October ;-).
It is on BBC 5 radio for anybody that is interested, although nobody will
probably read this before the game is over!
Prediction 2-1 with Chappie and Rod scoring.
James.
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33.262 | Forest result | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Mon Dec 23 1991 02:15 | 6 |
|
Nottingham Forest 0 Leeds United 0
Not a disaster, but Man Utd are now level with 2 games in hand which
means we really must win next Sunday. Still to reach the halfway
point in the season with only one defeat is quite an achievement.
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33.263 | A point is a point is a point | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 23 1991 13:19 | 18 |
| Wilko seemed happy with the point gained at Forest, it's not a
disaster, not many teams will come away from the City ground with much
this season. It's a pity we couldn't take all 3 points, but we are
still 2nd, level on points with the Mancs, albeit with a goal
difference defecit of 4. The Mancs have a tough away game at Oldham, a
local derby and all that, a draw will be a good result for them. Leeds
have Branfoots Choppers at Elland Road - a comprehensive win is now
needed to make up some of the goal difference. The Mancs have played 2
games less, but Leeds have the points in the bag. Sheff Wed are playing
well abnd picking the points up, especially at Hillsborough, where
Leeds go after their tussle with the Mancs, they are now 9 points
behind. Liverpool got a last gasp equaliser vs Man City - a good
result for Leeds and Man U, Arsenal also had a convincing 4-2 win over
the erratic Toffees.
A reasonable start to Christmas, another 9 points please !
jb.
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33.264 | Injury time ...\\ | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 23 1991 16:30 | 15 |
| Strachan was injured in the game yesterday, he was replaced by Kelly,
making his league debut. kelly is a striker who can also play in
midfield. He last played as sub vs Scunthorpe in the RLC. Strachan has
aggravated a back injury sustained whilst training on Astroturf at
Trinity and All Saints College, Horsforth (600 yards from the Digital
Office), he is doubtful for the Soton game, and more seriously, the
League game vs Man U next Sunday.
On the Soton side, Ruddock has been put on the transfer list, fined the
maximum and dropped from the side to face Leeds on Thursday. He was
sent off for the 2nd time this season, and will start a 3 match ban -
his 4th this season. A transfer fee in the order of 1/4 million will be
asked.
jb.
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33.265 | Will Craig Short Sue For Assault ?? | PANIC::ANDERSON | The 'Pies have gone cold | Mon Dec 23 1991 18:44 | 15 |
|
>> <<< Note 33.264 by BAHTAT::BLYTHE "Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill" >>>
>> -< Injury time ...\\ >-
On the Soton side, Ruddock has been put on the transfer list, fined the
maximum and dropped from the side to face Leeds on Thursday. He was
sent off for the 2nd time this season, and will start a 3 match ban -
his 4th this season. A transfer fee in the order of 1/4 million will be
asked. ^^^^^^^^^^^
Have Southampton really got this sort of money to bribe someone to take
Ruddock off their hands ?? :-)
Rob
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33.266 | A mishtake ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Dec 23 1991 19:21 | 5 |
| re last :-
The transfer fee for Ruddock is 750,000 !
jb.
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33.267 | Strachan a worry | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Tue Dec 24 1991 01:02 | 12 |
|
Going by the way Southampton play these days there will be several
players injured on Boxing Day. It is probably a good idea not to
play Strachan anyway against them. It is critical that he is OK
for Sunday, just like Man Utd are trying to ensure Robson and Sharpe
are available. You need a full strength team to beat Man Utd.
The papers over here ran an article yesterday that was taken from
the Sunday Times. It talked about how HW had rejuvenated Leeds and
the part played by Silver and Fotherby. HW also went on to say it
would be another 2-3 years before he had the squad he wanted and
that he would be spending 'a lot more of Mr Silver's money'.
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33.268 | Strachan worry | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Dec 24 1991 12:20 | 9 |
| No decision on Strachan till Thursday morning. I expect he will sit
this one out, and Hodge will start for the first time in weeks.
McAllister played well on Sunday, he should be able to cover Strachan's
absence. It is vital the wee man is available for Sunday's sell-out.
9 points from the 3 Xmas matches are needed, that will set us up
niceley, the Mancs will get 4 - win vs QPR, and a draw vs Oldham.
jb.
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33.269 | hodge | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Tue Dec 24 1991 12:34 | 11 |
|
When Strachan went off injured on Sunday I was surprised that HW did
not put on Hodge. Is Hodge carrying an injury or is he out of favour
with Wilko? Surely his experience would have been useful in the last
ten minutes in helping to secure all three points!
Are there any views on this substitution??
S
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33.270 | Kelly / Hodge | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Dec 24 1991 12:48 | 4 |
| I think HW wanted to blood Kelly so that he can gain some experience -
he may be needed in the near future !
jb.
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33.271 | Throwing away home points | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Mon Dec 30 1991 03:54 | 22 |
|
December 26
Leeds United (2) 3 Southampton (0) 3
Hodge 2
Speed
Poor result, especially when considering Speed put Leeds 3-1
up with only 17 mins left. Southampton equalised in the 89th
minute.
December 29
Leeds United (0) 1 Manchester United (0) 1
Sterland (pen)
I'll see highlights of this tonight so I'll pass comment
then. If Sterland took the penalty I presume Strachan
was not playing (or wasn't on the pitch at the time).
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33.272 | | QETOO::CHAVES | Benfica & United will win the double | Mon Dec 30 1991 18:11 | 5 |
| This Strachan guy? Are we talking about the same player that played
for Scotland when he was only 17 or 18? If so, he must be close to
retirement age. Seems like he's been around for ever.
JC
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33.273 | 34 and Going Strong | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Mon Dec 30 1991 18:39 | 1 |
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33.274 | Yes | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | Chris the Jester | Mon Dec 30 1991 19:06 | 6 |
33.275 | 4 draws in a row, not championship form, me thinks. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Mon Dec 30 1991 20:11 | 14 |
| With Leeds having put together a run of 4 draws in a row, MUFC are quickly
pulling ahead of the pack, or whatever is left of them. Arsenal losing to
Luton and Liverpool also drawing too many games means that it is upto the likes
of City and Sheff Wed to do the chasing behind Leeds.
We were lucky yesterday not to be put away when it was 1-0 to United, but fair
play to Leeds to stick in there and get back an equaliser. We cannot, however,
continue to lose points against the likes of Southampton and expect to keep
championship aspirations.
More tough games on the horizon against MUFC(2H), West Ham(A) and Sheff Wed(A).
James.
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33.276 | Happy new year to all Leeds fans out there. Lets hope its one to remember for the right reasons. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Wed Jan 01 1992 15:05 | 0 |
33.277 | Another away win but what happened at OT ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Thu Jan 02 1992 03:53 | 12 |
|
West Ham United 1 Leeds United 3
A good away win although HW wasn't impressed with Leeds' performance.
The report I heard said Chapman got two but didn't name the other
Leeds scorer. With Man Utd's spectacular result and with Man City,
Sheff Wed and Arsenal all drawing and Villa losing it was quite a
good day for Leeds.
I wonder what sort of backlash we will see from Man Utd on Sunday.
At least this has cancelled out the dropped home points vs Southampton.
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33.278 | Top again !! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Jan 02 1992 12:41 | 39 |
| Leeds 3 Soton 3
Christmas came a day late at Elland Road, as Soton were handed a point
by a strangely uncompetitive and generous Leeds side. No doubt there
were less than festive words said in the dressing room after the game.
Hodge got a couple befort 1/2 time, then Soton came back, only for
Speed to put it at 3-1 with 15 mons to go. Leeds then gave the game
away, and a 90th minute goal from Soton clinched the point. 2 points
thrown away, I hope 2 points don't come in important later in the
season. The fact that the Mancs had won 6-3 away didn't help either !
Leeds 1 Mancs 1
A tough game, as expected. The Mancs played very well, and Webb's goal
was good, even though there were 1 or possibly 2 Manc playters offside,
and Whyte had been inpeded. The Mancs then had the chance to make it
more, but they didn't. Chapman then got an equaliser, but play was
brought back for a free kick to Leeds - advantage should have been
played. McAllister made a run into the area on 81, and was brought down
by a clumsy Pallister - Sterland made it 1-1 from the spot. Strachan
was suffering from sciatica during the game - so he wasn't his usual
self, so Sterland took the pen. A 1-1 resulot was fair, but Leeds could
have taken the 3 points.
West Ham 1 Leeds 3
A good result at Upton Park, Chapman getting 2 and McAllister the other
one - a real rocket ! West Ham's goal was from a penalty, a careless
push from Dorigo whan he almost had the ball under control. West Ham
don't look long in this world I'm afraid. The result from Old Trafford
brightened the day up though !
Leeds are now top, 1 point clear from the Mancs (who do have 2 games in
hand), and 9 points clear of 3rd placed Sheff Wed - our next opponents
in the League. The Mancs are at Elland Road on Sunday for part 2 of the
Trilogy - a win for Leeds - I hope the Mancs play as well as they did
against QPR !!!
jb.
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33.279 | Batty Suspension | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Thu Jan 02 1992 16:03 | 8 |
|
Does anyone know how many games Batty will miss through suspension?
I understand he will certainly miss the game against Sheff. Wed.
S
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33.280 | Suspension and the Mancs | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Jan 02 1992 17:26 | 17 |
| Batty will miss the away game at Sheff Wed and the home game vs Crystal
Palace (if no replays resulting from the manc Trilogy. If there is a
replay for the FAC or the RLC, it will be at OT on Wed 15 Jan, and
Batts will miss that instead of the Palace Game.
There were no new injuries over the new year, so the same team should
start vs the Mancs in the FAC on Sunday.
I just saw a couple of Manc fans at lunchtime, and they were not amused
by yesterday's performance. One performance like that is barely
acceptable, another one and the waste products will hit the air
circulation machinery pdq. If the Mancs are going to fall apart, then
where better than at Elland Road - twice. I don't think so though, they
will be a handful, and eager to get out of Whining Fergies way.
jb.
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33.281 | Full strength. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Jan 03 1992 16:47 | 10 |
| Leeds will be at full strength on Sunday, with Hodge and Shutt on the
bench. Sterland has a thigh strain and Strachan still has Sciatica, but
both will play after treatment. For the Mancs, Giggs will start, and
Kanchelskis and Irwin will play. It will be interesting to see what
happens, Leeds must not let the Mancs settle on the ball, 2 goals in 5
minutes will do nicely ;-), and then put the shutters up.
Leeds to go through.
jb.
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33.282 | Reading Bound .... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Jan 03 1992 19:16 | 5 |
| I'm sure somebody will report the 2 Manc clashes in here next week -
I'm in Reading all week, Top Gunning and SWAS/EIS/DS meeting - can't
wait !
jb.
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33.283 | | YUPPY::PANES | Oh Timmy, you're so licky | Fri Jan 03 1992 19:55 | 15 |
| <<< Note 33.282 by fBAHTAT::BLYTHE "Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill" >>>
-< Reading Bound .... >-
> I'm sure somebody will report the 2 Manc clashes in here next week -
> I'm in Reading all week, Top Gunning and SWAS/EIS/DS meeting - can't
> wait !
> jb.
Jb,
Will you be getting the beers in if Leeds win???
Stuart
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33.284 | Batty out, Robson & Hodge in ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Mon Jan 06 1992 05:55 | 9 |
|
Well with the second (and least important) of the 'War of the
Roses' trilogy postponed until the 15th (I think) this means
Batty will not be playing in that game but will now be
available for the Palace league game. It also means Robson
should be available for the rescheduled date.
I haven't heard the 4th round draw yet. No doubt Leeds/Man Utd
have drawn Sheff Wed away.
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33.285 | Southampton AWAY | MASALA::JSALLY | Come on the wigwams. | Mon Jan 06 1992 06:53 | 2 |
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33.286 | hehehe | BHUNA::CPATRICK | Humpty Dumpty jumped | Mon Jan 06 1992 07:36 | 5 |
| re-1
John,Southampton are away where ???
confused from skeggie
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33.287 | We've a score to settle with Saints | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Mon Jan 06 1992 08:01 | 3 |
|
I would say Southampton are away out of the FA Cup :-) regardless
of who wins the Leeds/Man Utd game(s).
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33.288 | Directions please | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Life's a One Take Movie | Mon Jan 06 1992 14:11 | 5 |
| Anyone out there know how to get from Leeds Central Station to Elland
Road by bus, local rail, cab or whatever?
An aprehensive FE fan
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33.289 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | Eat, drink and be sick | Mon Jan 06 1992 14:36 | 11 |
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Re .288
I'd take a cab if I was you - it's about three miles from the station
to the ground and the natives aren't very friendly. Buses run back to
the city centre from behind the Kop - unless you can get in with the
police escort, the bus is the only way back...
Paul
PS - it might have changed a bit, it's 10 years since I was there last.
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33.290 | Use the Tardis? | R2ME2::HINXMAN | I'll just sit here and rust | Mon Jan 06 1992 17:15 | 6 |
| re .288
Wasn't Leeds Central station closed about 25 years ago?
The surviving station being Leeds City?
Tony
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33.291 | Humour? Pah! | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Life's a One Take Movie | Mon Jan 06 1992 17:18 | 6 |
| I thought all Northern Stations were called XXXXXXX Central :-)
All I know is that I'm going where-ever the trains from Kings X come in
to.
Paul
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33.292 | Live TV Coverage | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Tue Jan 07 1992 11:47 | 6 |
|
The FA Cup 3rd round game against Man Utd will be shown live by BBC on
Wednesday 15th January. The program starts at 7:10pm.
S
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33.293 | injuries/probable team | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Thu Jan 09 1992 16:54 | 29 |
|
It seems like Dorigo will be out for a while with knee ligament
problems. He will be sorely missed!!! I feel that it was due to his
injury that Kanchelskis (SP?) was able to get into the game a lot more.
I think that HW will have to re-think his strategy for dealing with
Man Utd. Chapman was basically never allowed to get into the game by
an impressive Pallister.
Below is my suggestion of the team that Leeds may field against Man Utd,
next Wednesday. Any comments on the selection?
Lukic
Sterland Fairclough Whyte Whitlow
Strachan Kelly McCalister Hodge
Wallace Speed
I think the objective will be to keep the ball on the floor.
S
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33.294 | Hot off the press. | YUPPY::HOGAN | The 91/92 Champions, Don't doubt it! | Fri Jan 10 1992 19:29 | 5 |
| Looks like Sterland might be on his way to Liverpool for some 750,000
to be re-united with Sourpuss. I also read that the replacement from
the squad would be Danny Wallace!?! Somebody has a sence of humour.
Leeds to get back to winning ways against Sheffield Wednesday by 2-1.
United to draw 0-0 with Everton!
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33.295 | the curse of Souness | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | prophet of Mu Mu | Fri Jan 10 1992 19:32 | 3 |
| STERLAND!!!
NO!!!!
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33.296 | Huh? | TRUCKS::SANT | | Fri Jan 10 1992 19:57 | 7 |
|
..and surely you mean RAY Wallace, who I seem to remember signed
for the Peacocks in the same deal that took Rod to Elland Road.
But on the other hand, we'd be happy to sell you Danny instead!
Andy.
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33.297 | Another good away win | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Mon Jan 13 1992 00:43 | 10 |
|
Sheffield Wednesday (1) 1 Leeds United (3) 6
What a way to bounce back after the Man Utd game. Hat-trick for
Chapman, with goals for Dorigo, Whitlow and Rod Wallace. I don't
know if Wednesday were still suffering from injuries or the flu
virus they had last week but this is the best result of the
season. I don't think Don Revie's Leeds ever managed six in
an away league game either. It takes Leeds back to the top and
they now have a better goal difference than Man Utd as well.
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33.298 | Back on top to stay! | YUPPY::HOGAN | The 91/92 Champions, Don't doubt it! | Mon Jan 13 1992 12:40 | 16 |
| Not quite the scorelines I had predicted but none the less satisfied
with the nett result. Just been in the Man U. confrence and the wobbles
have well and truley set in with another very close game going there
way at home. It was great to see Leeds get such a formidable result
without messers Strachan and Batty being involved. I know this will
invoke replies-we are some 300 behind Man U / Liverpool- but I was
glad to see changes in the squad and I also think even more involvement
from the likes of Kelly,Shutt,Whitlow,McClelland,and especially Hodge-
how can he even be considered to be left out, have Leeds lost a game
whenever he started this season?
It was intresting to see Liverpool starting to fire on all cylinders
with the narrow victory-I use the word lightly-over Luton, but if you
want to read something intresting then go into the Liverpool topic and
look at their 4 last league fixtures, if they win the league it will
certianly be the hard way.
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33.299 | 6 of the best!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Jan 13 1992 12:44 | 24 |
| What a superb display of dominating football!! And without the likes of Strachan
& Batty.
Wednesday didn't even get a look in. Their goal came from about the best trip
I've seen by a molecule of air ;-). I personally believe that the F.A. should be
able to do something after the event. Watson took 2 clear steps after White's
challenge before deciding that he should CHEAT and fake a dive. Personally I
think he should be fined and suspended for ungentlemanly conduct.
End of gripe.
Now onto the majestic Leeds display. Chapman was devastating. He didn't miss a
header all game, thoroughly deserved his hatrick and subsequent MOM award.
Wallace didn't stop all game, set up a couple of goals, and deserved his own in
the last couple of minutes.
Come to think of it, not one Leeds player put in anything less than 110% into
their game yesterday, and I hope they can repeat the performance and teach the
Red Devils a lesson on Wednesday.
Leeds to win by the odd goal
Al
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33.300 | A weeek is a long time in footie | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Jan 13 1992 12:55 | 50 |
| A week's worth to put in -- I've been away from the office for a week,
I was supposed to be in Reading, but as some pillock crashed into me in
Leeds last Sunday and bent the front of my car and my neck has gone
again I didn't get there !
The FA Cup game was postponed - Leeds and district received 1/2 the
january average rainfall in 12 hours - even my back lawn was
unplayable! Wednesday's game was characterised by a below par leeds
performance - they lost to a better side on the night, and with some
luck it could have been a draw. Dorigo was missed, Sterland and
Strachan were walking wounded at times (leg and cut shin respectively),
McClelland was struggling at left back - it wasn't his position and the
speedy Manc wingers were giving him a hard time. There were 28,500
there, not a sell out, and it was live, and they are to play again in
the FA Cup on Wednesday !
The weekends fixtures contained a difficult away trip to Sheff Wed, and
the Mancs had a less than easy visit from Everton. The Mancs went to
the top on a temporary basis, before Leeds destroyed Sheff Wed 6-1 at
Hillsborough, and they were without Strachan and Batty, but Dorigo
played. The game was excellent, marred by a cheating dive for the
Sheff Wed penalty, Johnny Giles called the Sheff Wed player a cheat - a
tag I entirely agree with. Sheff Wed had injuries and some flu
symptoms, but a 6-1 defeat at home in a local derby and the teams are
1st and 3rd at the beginning of the weekend's games .... Leeds played
excellently, and it lifts them for the 3rd game against the Mancs on
Wed, Strachan is expected to be fit.
Wallace was involved more in the game, and Chapman had lots of crosses
to convert, which he did 3, Dorigo with a screaming free kick, Mike
Whitlow with a header and Wallace finished it off. Leeds looked like
scoring every time they went forward. If they play like this on
Wednesday ....
Saturday sees Palace at Elland Road, and we don't want a re-run of the
last 2 games against them - 2 last minute winners. If any of you FE
fans are coming up, how about a few pints before the game ? Get up to
Leeds early and we'll have a few pints in the Adelphi - next to
Tetley's brewery, from there its a 20 minute walk to the ground, or
take the bus. Directions to the Adelphi from City Station :-
Outside the main station doors, turn right, and walk down New Station
St, there are building works on your right. Turn Right into Boar Lane,
and then Right into Lower Briggate. Walk down Lower Briggate, going
under the railway. Go over the crossraods, and cross the River Aire
(Leeds Bridge), cross the road, the Adelphi is straight ahead on the
corner. I usually sit in the 1st room on the right just by the door (a
creature of habit). Let me know if any of you are coming up.
jb.
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33.301 | | DUCK::NAGLEJ | | Mon Jan 13 1992 13:25 | 4 |
|
What a 'super result.'
JN.
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33.302 | How long??? | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Life's a One Take Movie | Mon Jan 13 1992 13:27 | 7 |
| JB,
How long to walk from the Station to the Ground? (And is it safe for us
foreigners? :-) ) I'm not sure whether the Spindlewood Gardens Crew are
driving or training yet.
Paul
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33.303 | Its a long and winding road | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Jan 13 1992 13:36 | 7 |
| re -1
About 20 to 25 minutes. It is generally safe for 'foreigners', though
jumping up and down waving Palace scarves, chanting 'Death to Leeds' is
not recommended ! Give me a shout if you're coming up. (DTN 845-2290)
jb.
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33.304 | | BEAGLE::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Mon Jan 13 1992 17:15 | 10 |
| Well, speaking as a non-Leeds supporter who has been starved of english
football for this season, I was lucky enough to see the match on telly
yesterday and was well entertained! They utterly demolished Wednesday,
who are not a bad team at the moment, and they did it with style and
good aggressive play. All this without Strachan and Batty as well. The
boy Chapman played brill, all in all a damn good advert for British
soccer (IMHO). Shame about the dive incident, but Wednesday got their
just desserts. After seeing this Leeds must be my tip for the title.
Stevo.
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33.305 | The Anti Soccer League | ARRODS::OHAGANB | The Voodoo Rhythm Devils | Mon Jan 13 1992 20:44 | 6 |
| All references to the word "S*ccer" must be banned. Purlease, it's
football. :^)
Barry (in total agreement with the chap who rang up Danny Baker
on Radio 5 with the same complaint).
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33.306 | | ESSB::TSHAUGHNESSY | Electric Shaughs! | Mon Jan 13 1992 23:45 | 4 |
| Ok Barry,
Can you explain what Soccer is so please.
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33.307 | A club record for HW's Leeds side | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Tue Jan 14 1992 07:31 | 14 |
|
Saw extended highlights of the game over here last night. What a
good team performance ! It was Leeds' largest ever away league
win. However I don't think Pallister and the rest of the Man Utd
defence will be as generous on Wednesday. This game will also
silence those critics who still maintain Leeds are a one man
team - at least in midfield.
All in all it was a happy first return to Hillsborough for HW.
Any news on injuries for Wednesday or whether Strachan will be
back ? A good performance on Wednesday could have Batty struggling
to get back in the side on Saturday. Going by Leeds' current away
form and Man Utd's current home form it's a shame the game is at
Elland Road and not at Old Trafford.
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33.308 | | ESSB::BREE | | Tue Jan 14 1992 11:48 | 4 |
| Yes I think Pallister and Bruce may spoil things for Lee(ds) by opting
to head out the occasional cross.
Paul
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33.309 | Biggest away win | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Jan 14 1992 12:01 | 7 |
| Leeds' biggest away win was in 1930 when they beat Blackpool at
Bloomfield Road 7-3.
Strachan should be in contention tomorrow, whwther he starts or not is
up to HW, I expect he will.
jb.
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33.310 | | ASKFOR::HAIGH | A vision of guerrilla goodness. | Tue Jan 14 1992 13:23 | 11 |
| Err, isn't 6-1 bigger than 7-3?
Leeds are certainly not a one-man team even in midfield. In the league
match against United (the one with the silly penalty that ended 1-1), I
thought Speed was brilliant!
On another note, as far as entertainment is concerned I DO think the
current Leeds team is better than Revies.
Emelyn Hughes.
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33.311 | :^) | YUPPY::OHAGANB | | Tue Jan 14 1992 14:45 | 26 |
| re .306
>>Ok Barry,
>>Can you explain what Soccer is so please.
soccer (sok'er n. [< (AS)SOC(IATION FOOTBALL)]
same as ASSOCIATION FOOTBALL.
Kind thanks to the >>Rapid Systems>> Collins Pocket English dictionary
from which this has been used without permission.
There you go, good enough? Beats me why anyone went to such lengths to
establish a name derived, so tenuously, from the word Association.
Must have had something to do with various other sports called
football whose patrons stubbornly insisted on calling their throwing
versions after the name of God's own game. Scandalous.
Barry.
p.s. Leeds fans please forgive the gaping rat-hole opening up here.
Gary, please move this to a general odd's n sods topic if we have one.
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33.312 | How deep can a rathole get? | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Tue Jan 14 1992 16:12 | 22 |
|
> Beats me why anyone went to such lengths to
> establish a name derived, so tenuously, from the word Association.
The story I once heard goes somewhere along the lines of:
Two young Gentleman students (ca 1860's ???) one a Rugby player, the
other a Footballer met approaching the sports field. The Rugby player
inquired:
"Oh, you're going for a game of Rugger"
The other, realising that he was about to be "out-cooled" from a
prtactician of the rivalling code:
"No, I'm going for a game of Soccer"
Now, what if someone would try and provide a similar service for
American (anabolic) Football.
Stefan
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33.313 | It gets this deep <-----------> | YUPPY::OHAGANB | | Tue Jan 14 1992 16:27 | 12 |
|
>> Now, what if someone would try and provide a similar service for
>> American (anabolic) Football.
Stefan
Am(eric)an.
How about "eric"? Just imagine it? "Coming down to the mall Brad".
"No Tom, I'm off for a game of Eric"
:^)
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33.314 | Soccer v Football - see note 148 | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Tue Jan 14 1992 16:34 | 4 |
|
can we move this discussion to note 148.
Gary.
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33.315 | Gee Whizz Soccer / Strachan | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Jan 14 1992 17:43 | 12 |
| Well, my little nephew (a goddam yank for christ's sake !) plays
Soccer. he is coming over to Yorkshire at the beginning of Feb, so
he'll get taken down to Elland Road to see Football, to see the Villa
get beat (or more probably and FA Cup 5th round tie).
Strachan should be fit, Wilko then has the (nice) problem of who to
pick - I expect Shutt will make way for the wee Scot and Shutt and Mike
Whitlow will be on the bench. I hope Leeds will win this one - then
honours will be evenly shared between 2 evenly matched teams, currently
the best in the country.
jb.
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33.316 | Thoughts on tomorrow night | ODYSSY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Jan 14 1992 20:33 | 16 |
| I have been away for a while and see what happens. We lose badly to MUFC last
Wednesday and then chop wednesday into little pieces on Sunday. What a
rollercoaster.
I am however not very optimistic about tomorrow night as MUFC seem to have the
measure of us right now. MUFC would never play the way wednesday did on Sunday.
Not in a thousand years would they let Leeds get 4 headers on goal, let alone
score from them.
At least it proves that Leeds will not lie down and let United have the league on
a plate.
United can have the Cups if they give us the league, I say.
James.
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33.317 | Records when no-one bothered with defence | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Wed Jan 15 1992 08:22 | 11 |
|
I thought record scores were measured on margin of victory. For
example Leeds list their 1-8 defeat against Stoke City in 1934
as their biggest defeat but they conceded 9 against Bradford in
1946 (4-9). It's just as well War games aren't counted as well,
they lost 0-9 to Newcastle in 1943 - and then won 7-1 in the
return game 7 days later !
Anyway back to the serious business of trying to beat Man Utd on
the 8th attempt since our return to Division 1, and trying to win
our first home game in 5.
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33.318 | But will it be foggy ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Jan 15 1992 12:28 | 16 |
| Tonight's game kicks off at 7.10pm - getting to the ground will be fun,
as the football rush will coincide with the rush hour. A crowd of over
30,000 is expected, yesterday there were 1,000 tickets still available
for seats with restricted views.
I hope it isn't foggy tonight, games in the East of the country were
abandoned / cancelled last night, and its misty now which doesn't auger
well for tonight, the last thing that we want is another postponement
(the BBC will then have to show ???).
I hope Leeds will beat the Mancs at the 8th time of asking, a 1-0 will
be enough - I can't see a 6-1 tonight. Giggs and the Ukranian will have
to be stopped, but Dorigo and Sterland will be fitter tonight, and
Strachan should also be playing.
jb.
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33.319 | prediction | ESSB::BREE | | Wed Jan 15 1992 12:35 | 3 |
| 2-0 for the reds.
Paul
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33.320 | | CRISPY::COSSEYN | | Wed Jan 15 1992 13:47 | 24 |
|
I think Man Utd will be to strong for Leeds tonight so I'll go for
a 2-0 result to the Manc's, Dorigo will obviously make a differance
to leeds defence but thats not going to make much differance if
Giggs is taking the p**s out of Sterland he was given the run around
by Giggs last week and won't be realishing it tonight.
Glad to see Sterland managed to get his legs unknotted in time for
Sundays game against Wednesday.
Read an artical in the paper yesterday which said,
Wilkinson should drop Chapman as in the last two meetings he hasn't
got a look in against a quality defence, good point!! Chapmans great
at exploiting poor defenders but up against quality defenders he's
clueless.
Even so, if it's anything like the other two meetings it should be a
good game.
Neil.....
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33.321 | News just in .. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Jan 15 1992 16:41 | 6 |
| Late News :-
Strachan is doubtful for tonight, he will have a late fitness check.
Williams is added to the squad for cover.
jb.
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33.322 | 2 - 0 to the Reds! | SHAWB1::STOCKMANS | | Wed Jan 15 1992 16:46 | 6 |
| I must say LEEDS looked good on Sunday but the REDS tonight are a completely & I
mean COMPLETELY different prospect.
So it's 2 - 0 to the REDS! For Mr Tony Parsons let's call it 3 - 1 to the REDS!
Si...
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33.323 | Calling Jon Fish | COMICS::WATTERSON | One more mint Mr President ? | Wed Jan 15 1992 16:53 | 8 |
|
JB,
what's the weather like in Leeds at the moment - is it worth rushing
home from football tonight, or is it possible the game could be fogged
off ?
Paul
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33.324 | ...match commentary... | YUPPY::SEABURYS | | Wed Jan 15 1992 17:37 | 18 |
| 4-2 to Leeds, with Champman getting a hat-trick...
...Pallister to blame for at least 2 Leeds goals, a blatent trip in the
penalty area, and losing possesion at the halfway line after a Maradona
impression went wrong and being hopelessly out of position...
...Leeds 2-0 up at half-time...
...Giggs and Kanchelskis to get the mancs goals in the second half and
bring the score back to 3-2...
...Champman finishes off the scoring late in the second half after
Wallace unselfishly squares the ball with Schmeichal(sp??) well beaten.
Not worth going home to watch it now, really, is it??!!?? 8-)
Stew.
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33.325 | Should be OK | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Jan 15 1992 18:06 | 4 |
| It's misty in Horsforth, more fog is expected tonight, but mostly on
higher ground - ie the match should go ahead at 7.10 pm
jb.
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33.326 | | KURMA::JSALLY | Come on the wigwams. | Wed Jan 15 1992 19:06 | 5 |
|
Any chance that this is the live game on SKY Sports tonight ????
John
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33.327 | | ASKFOR::HAIGH | A vision of guerrilla goodness. | Wed Jan 15 1992 19:13 | 4 |
| I don't think it's on live, but there are highlights at 21:00.
Steve
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33.328 | | KURMA::JSALLY | Come on the wigwams. | Wed Jan 15 1992 19:18 | 7 |
|
There's certainly some FA Cup game on, and the programme starts at
7pm. Just thought that a 7.10pm kick off was a bit unusual unless
it's been timed for telly.
John
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33.329 | | NEWOA::PALK | | Wed Jan 15 1992 19:24 | 4 |
|
Its live on BBC1
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33.330 | Not in Scotland :( | MASALA::JSALLY | Come on the wigwams. | Wed Jan 15 1992 19:54 | 2 |
|
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33.331 | | DUCK::NAGLEJ | | Wed Jan 15 1992 19:57 | 4 |
|
Leeds to mullah Man U. all over the park tonight.
JN.
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33.332 | | SHAWB1::STOCKMANS | | Wed Jan 15 1992 20:27 | 7 |
| re -1
No chance! The reds'll give Leeds huge lashie tonight!!!!
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33.333 | Mancs fluke it again. | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | d i g i t a l | Thu Jan 16 1992 01:44 | 23 |
| <<< Note 33.331 by DUCK::NAGLEJ >>>
Leeds to mullah Man U. all over the park tonight.
Leeds 0 Mancs 1 (Hughes)
Leeds did run the Mancs all over the field but were the unluckiest team
since Liverpool were beaten in the 88 cup final, Arsenal league game in 1989,
semi against Palace in 1990. It was a total travesty of justice. Ledds ran them
off the park for most of the first half but right at the end, Hodge attacks,
loses possession, the Mancs break down the left, Giggs crosses and Hughes scores
with a header. Chapman had several good chances but the luck never went their
way. He later went off with a bad hand injury after what should have been a
penalty. If I was the referee in that game, there is no way Utd would be going
to the Dell for the next round.
Still Leeds can now solely concentrate on the championship and let's hope
that the two cup competitions take their toll on the Mancs. I don't care if
Utd. won all the cups in the country as long as they don't win the league.
Disgusted yet again,
Cunno
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33.334 | Heads up lads..there's the big 1 still to play for.. | TRUCKS::SANT | | Thu Jan 16 1992 11:33 | 14 |
33.335 | How will Lee cope with his injury??? | ESSB::BREE | | Thu Jan 16 1992 11:37 | 3 |
| His eyesight might improve.
Paul
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33.336 | If only it'd been foggy!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Thu Jan 16 1992 13:14 | 26 |
| What a great advert for English football. It's a shame there had to be a winner.
Leeds were the better side on the night. They were totally dominant in the first
half having 3 good chances but converting none (2 to Chapman & Hodge 1) mainly
due to the fine keeping by Schmeichel. United scored with their only real chance
of the half, but what a great move, and Giggs cross was inch perfect.
The second half saw the Mancs starting to play in midfield, and this evened out
the game, and from start to finish it was end to end stuff. Both sides had good
chances, the best falling to Leeds with 2 goal-line clearances from Fairclough &
Chapman.
Leeds can feel hard done by after last night. They should be proud of their
performance, they did everything but score. It was just one of those games.
Credit must go to Man U for their persistence in defence, which gave them
the luck they needed.
I hope Chapman's injury clears up as quickly as possible, it was a nasty fall.
He will be sorely missed up front in the run in to the championship.
Back to winning ways on saturday against Palace. The FE's have been struggling
over the last few weeks, and this should be a perfect opportunity to pay them
back for the only league defeat so far. I put 3-0 in the predictions note, but
now that Chapman's out I reckon it'll be 2-0, Wallace getting both.
Al
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33.337 | Chapman injury? | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Thu Jan 16 1992 13:45 | 11 |
|
I am hearing conflicting rumours about Chapman's injury.
Some reports state he will be out for THREE MONTHS!!!
Can someone please confirm if this is true??
Deeply Concerned Leeds fan
s
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33.338 | | CRISPY::NAGLEJ | | Thu Jan 16 1992 14:15 | 16 |
|
Gutted !! Thats all I can say. Credit to Man U. though, their
only real chance in the game and they took it.
Gary "if in doubt take 'im out" Pallister certainly put one on
Lee Chapman and should have been booked at least and Leeds should
have had a penalty. Put it this way, if Chapman had walloped the
keeper the way he was walloped by Pallister Man U. would have
had a free kick.
BTW. Chapman, according to this mornings Daily Mail, has a broken
wrist and will be out for about three months.
I think MAN United will now go all the way and take the FA cup.
JN.
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33.339 | The wrong team got through | YUPPY::SEABURYS | | Thu Jan 16 1992 14:26 | 13 |
| Oh well, I got the game right, but the score wrong...
Commiserations to Leeds who played the mancs off the park last night,
and were totally unlucky to go out...
The Chapman injury is interesting...
Apparently he's broken a bone in either his wrist or his hand, and will
be out for 3 months!! Hope this doesn't affect Leed's title
challenge...
Stew.
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33.340 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | Revenge | Thu Jan 16 1992 16:05 | 6 |
| All this cr*p about Pallister is well out of order. Whitlock dragged
down Andre, who was through on goal and didn't even get a booking!!!
Leeds should have finished with nine men
Tony
|
33.341 | a bit better than 3 months | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Thu Jan 16 1992 16:36 | 2 |
| According to Radio 5 half an hour ago, Chapman will be out for 7 weeks
with his broken wrist.
|
33.342 | | CRISPY::NAGLEJ | | Thu Jan 16 1992 16:45 | 6 |
| re:- 33.340
Point taken. He should have been sent off after obviously trying
a rugby tackle.
JN.
|
33.343 | Deane to replace Chapman? | PANIC::QUINLESS | Martin Quinless Digital Services London UK | Thu Jan 16 1992 17:31 | 10 |
| There is already speculation in the papers that Wilco will sign a
replacement to keep up the championship challenge. Brian Deane from
Sheffield Untited has been mentioned.
Bad luck last night but an entertaining game. Excellent cross by Giggs
but I think you have to question Leeds defence a bit.
Should be back to winning ways against the FEs on Saturday.
Martin
|
33.344 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | Revenge | Thu Jan 16 1992 17:51 | 3 |
| My guess is Dion Dublin, at around 1.5 million.
Tony
|
33.345 | WHAT !! | CURRNT::PAGED | | Thu Jan 16 1992 19:31 | 1 |
| Get yer hands off our Deano ya b*****s !!!
|
33.346 | Aldo for Leeds. | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | d i g i t a l | Thu Jan 16 1992 21:04 | 7 |
|
Now is the time for Wilkinson to make a daring bid for one John Aldridge.
This would be the coup of the season and I think that Wilko will indeed go
for Aldo.
Cunno.
|
33.347 | You Jest Martin | ESSB::TSHAUGHNESSY | Electric Shaughs! | Thu Jan 16 1992 22:00 | 17 |
33.348 | I'm deadly serious. | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | d i g i t a l | Thu Jan 16 1992 22:28 | 52 |
33.349 | dreaming | MACNAS::MHASSETT | | Fri Jan 17 1992 11:31 | 2 |
| re last.
Has he woken up yet???!!
|
33.350 | Lee back in March | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Fri Jan 17 1992 12:55 | 11 |
| re 33.341
>According to Radio 5 half an hour ago, Chapman will be out for 7 weeks
>with his broken wrist.
This was also on CEEFAX last night. Chapman was operated on on wednesday night,
should be in a cast for about 5 weeks, and Wilko expects him to be back in the
team 2 weeks later.
Will Wilko buy, Loan or stick to what he's got for the 7 weeks?
Al
|
33.351 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Fri Jan 17 1992 13:19 | 5 |
33.352 | Still on top ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Jan 17 1992 13:52 | 29 |
| Leeds 0 Mancs 1
The better side didn't win on the night this time ! I won't go into
match reporting, as it has been done to death already. The injury to
Chappo is a blow, but Leeds are not a 1 man team. Every striker is
being linked with Leeds at the moment, something may or may not happen.
Chappo will miss out on Palace h, Notts C h, Oldham a, Villa h (but if
Villa make it to the FA Cup R5 this won't happen), Everton a (live on
ITV Sunday 23 Feb, KO 3.20), Luton h, he may be back for Spurs a on Sat
7 March - that's 6 matches at the least, and 8 at the most, and the
games are aginst not quite top drawer opposition.
Back to the league - a win against Palace will rekindle spirits, and
then there is a 2 week gap, for rest and contemplation, before Notts
County at Elland Rd - one of Wilko's old clubs. The Mancs have a tough
schedule ahead - 3 away games at the 2 Nottinghams and the Arse - is it
too much to hope a gap appears between Leeds and the Mancs who will be
distracted by the Cups ? The Scousers are coming on apace, the title
race isn't over yet.
Leeds are out of the cups, it is a pity they had to meet the Mancs so
early in the FA Cup, it would have been better to meet them in the
later stages, but life's a bitch !
Leeds are still top of the league though - that's the real test of a
team.
jb.
|
33.353 | Did he jump, or was he pushed?? | YUPPY::SEABURYS | | Fri Jan 17 1992 13:56 | 14 |
| I would've thought Bobby Davison was the perfect replacement for
Chapman...
Why waste money buying a replacement???
But, it Wilko decides to buy, then what about an unbelieveably daring
bid for Alan Smith from Arsenal?? Clive Allen from Chelsea?? Graeme
Sharpe from Oldham?? The list of possibilities is endless...
Mind you, who'd want to sign for a club knowing that they'd only be in
the team for 7 weeks, untill Chapman is fit??
Stew.
|
33.354 | Team news. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Jan 17 1992 17:10 | 33 |
| Tomorrows' team will probably be :-
Lukic
Sterland
Dorigo
Fairclough
Whyte
Batty
McAllister
Strachan
Hodge
Speed
Wallace
Davison and Whitlow as Subs
Speed will act as the striker, he's pretty good in the air as well.
Wallace and Strachan will probably play wide.
I still expect a win tomorrow, even though Chappo is out, the rest of
the team look good, Palace don't have a Giggs or a Kanchelkis, so
Sterland and Dorigo will be able to get forward. There will be more
shots coming from the midfield tomorrow, due to our target man being
injured - should be a good game. Palace have 1 or 2 injuries to contend
with, and we need to avenge the only league defeat of the season.
Fortress Elland Road has been turned into a structure more akin to a
sandcastle lately (Totts, Soton, Mancs - draws, Mancs 2 losses) is the
depressing reading. Leeds are playing better away from home at the
moment - let's hope it's tomorrow whwn they resume their winning ways
in the league !
jb.
|
33.355 | Cunno turns White | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Fri Jan 17 1992 17:26 | 11 |
33.356 | Depressing :-((((((, not as bad as it could have been. | ODYSSY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Jan 17 1992 17:33 | 16 |
| I have been in a very depressed mood for the last two days over Wed evening.
Not alone do we lose by a sheer piece of undivine injustice but we also lose
Chapman for a possible 6-10 matches.
It isn't all bad news however as it leaves the way clear for a full tilt at the
championship. Note 33.352 and 33.354 have cheered me up no end with the list of
matches that Leeds and MUFC have to play in the next few weeks together with the
team that will be fielded tomorrow is still a very powerful combination.
Thankfully we don't have to play MUFC again this season as they seem to have the
hex over us. There is absolutely no way MUFC will be able to keep their interest
in all three competitions and will crack in something, most likely the
championship. As the old adage goes it's darkest before the dawn and this is
our darkest day.
James. :-))))))
|
33.357 | European Championships '92 Draw | YUPPY::SEABURYS | | Fri Jan 17 1992 18:55 | 17 |
| Group 1
-------
SWEDEN
FRANCE
YUGOSLAVIA
ENGLAND
Group 2
-------
HOLLAND
SCOTLAND
CIS (Commonwealth of Independant States)
GERMANY
Stew.
|
33.358 | Wrong note (:==:)? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Oh no he's back in Atlanta!! | Fri Jan 17 1992 19:56 | 7 |
| Stew,
I,m confused - which group are Leeds in?
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
33.359 | Still top ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Jan 20 1992 15:08 | 25 |
| Leeds 1 Palace 1
Another draw against another bogey team !
Leeds wer fortunate not to be 2 or 3 down after 20 minutes - they
weren't in the game, and whan Thomas whacked in a 20 yarder I wasn't
surprised. Leeds then woke up, and Fairclough equalised from a flicked
on by Speed Strachan corner. 1- 1at 1/2 time was about right. In the
2nd half, Palace were all hands defending and were joined by the post
and the crossbar. Speed could have had a hat-trick, Wallace a couple,
bad luck and good defending kept Leeds out, and they dropped 2 points.
The Mancs did as well, but the Scousers, Man City and Wednesday all
won, the Scousers are now 9 points behind.
Chapman was missed, its either rejig (the team did play well on Sat,
but couldn't score) or get the cheque book out. names bandied about
have been Steve Bull, Brian Deane, Tony Cascarino and Duncan Shearer
(Swindon and ex-Huddersfield). I think the cheque book will stay
closed.
The next game is Notts County at home on 1 Feb - 2 weeks rest and
tactic changing coming up. The Mancs have Villa at OT on Wed - not at
all easy - come on the Villa !
jb.
|
33.362 | Mr Moderator | ESSB::BREE | | Mon Jan 20 1992 18:50 | 3 |
| What hapened to .360 and 361??
Paul
|
33.363 | Here's why ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Jan 20 1992 18:59 | 16 |
| re .360 and .361
I tried to add them, but owing to Disk Quota Exceeded they didn't do in
(this is a feature - the count should be upped when the txn (adding a
note) has been completed successfully).
The contents were :-
Kerry Dixon of Chelsea is the latest striker to be linked with Leeds.
Wilko will face a charge of misconduct after being reported by the ref
after Sunday last's 6-1 hammering of Sheff Wed. The linesman needed
glasses / white stick ! If found 'guilty' a touchline ban / fine
awaits.
jb.
|
33.364 | No neutrals? | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Tue Jan 21 1992 18:02 | 8 |
| Rather a disturbing policy at Leeds if what I read is true.
Apparently a small group of alleged neutrals at an Elland Road match were
asked to leave the stand at half-time by a steward as they were not
cheering for Leeds.
Is football now only for the fanatics of either team with the neutrals
limited to tv?
|
33.365 | The Leeds Bond / Bayern Munich | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Jan 22 1992 15:21 | 45 |
33.366 | Transfer News | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Jan 24 1992 15:08 | 7 |
33.367 | OZ's top footballer | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Fri Jan 24 1992 16:44 | 4 |
|
Re -1, I think it's Farina and he'd be a very good signing.
Gary.
|
33.368 | On loan ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Jan 27 1992 13:41 | 8 |
| Farina looks to be coming to Elland Road, initially on loan for an
extended trial period. HW doesn't go out and just buy any old player -
they have to fit in. Apparantley there have been dome players who were
to come to Leeds, but they couldn't come to terms with involvement they
were expected to have with the community - each Leeds player has 7
hours per week Community Service written into their contracts.
jb.
|
33.369 | Aldo is the right man. | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | d i g i t a l | Mon Jan 27 1992 16:40 | 5 |
| If Leeds have any commonsense, they should make a bid for the best striker
available and that is THE GREAT ALDO. Wilko should forget about that guy
Ferina and buy a striker who is a dead cert to score goals.
Cunno.
|
33.370 | Cunno's right, for once ;-) | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Mon Jan 27 1992 18:00 | 4 |
| The words commonsense and Cunno are usually mutually exclusive but I
totally agree with him here. I am amazed Leeds did not immediately sign
tga after Chapman's injury. They have nothing to lose, bar a few quid,
and potentially the Championship to gain.
|
33.371 | ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Jan 27 1992 18:29 | 8 |
| Aldridge wanted to come back to Merseyside, as that's where all his
buddies and family are. With these commitments, he might not be able to
honour contractural arrangements of Leeds United players - ie community
service etc.
However, you never know ...
jb.
|
33.372 | Leeds go public. | TRUCKS::SANT | | Tue Jan 28 1992 13:32 | 16 |
|
jb,
I'm interested to hear about these "community relations"
requirements..
Excellent idea by the Leeds powers to "encourage" their employees
to go out to their paying public and build community links. This
is tremendous, and has probably had a lot to do with the Leeds
United drive for excellence along side eliminating the unwelcome
elements all-to-often publicised in the past. Leeds deserve any
and all the success they get. Shame a few more of the "big" clubs
don't have a more hi-profile exposure in this way. Leeds are
truely a BIG club in more ways than one.
Andy.
|
33.373 | No Aussie / On their way | BAHTAT::LZOP01::blythe | There's still the League ! | Tue Jan 28 1992 14:39 | 11 |
| Still no sign of Farina, it is hoped he will turn out for Leeds on Wed
vs Bayern. He holds an Italian passport, so work permits wont be a
problem. He is initially here for a week's trial, but this may be
extended to a loan with view to a transfer.
Andy Williams has gone on a months' loan to Notts County, with 1
proviso - he doesn't play against Leeds on Saturday. Bobby Davison
won't be going to Derby County, he says he has been mucked about with
and may go to WBA on loan.
jb.
|
33.374 | Leeds won't win the league | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | I drank Yeltsin under the table | Tue Jan 28 1992 16:26 | 3 |
| Touche.
Tony
|
33.375 | Farina|Ferino|him | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Tue Jan 28 1992 17:27 | 1 |
| The Farina deal has fallen through. Aldo still available though!
|
33.376 | Another Triallist | BAHTAT::LZOP01::blythe | There's still the League ! | Tue Jan 28 1992 17:32 | 4 |
| A different trialist - Kalman Kovac (sp ?) from Hungary (?) is due for
a week's trial - work permit still to be sorted out.
jb.
|
33.377 | Kovacs | CASEE::MERRICK | Too many scientists, not enough hunchbacks | Tue Jan 28 1992 17:54 | 6 |
| RE: -1 Kalman Kovacs
This is probably the Auxerre forward and ex-Honved Budapest player. He
is currently out of favour at Auxerre after they bought another striker
from Brest-Armorique.
|
33.378 | | TRUCKS::SANT | | Tue Jan 28 1992 19:21 | 10 |
|
re Kovacs..
..and a good player he is too. Just ask Liverpool! He was largely
responsible for the tearing apart of Liverpool when Grabatair
saved them earlier on this season in the EUFA away leg in France.
Andy.
|
33.379 | Up the Arse !!!!! | BAHTAT::LZOP01::blythe | Leeds Leeds Leeds !!! | Wed Jan 29 1992 14:35 | 11 |
| Wilko said on Radio Leeds last night that he had been looking at Kovacs
for some time, even if they bought him now, it would be next season
before he could play, as work permits etc would have to be sorted out.
Wilko was also annoyed at all the speculation over Farina, he said he
wasn't into short term measures, so it looks like the cheque book will
remain closed for the time being. Chapman is being missed, we'll have
to see how they get on against Notts County on Saturday, a
comprehensive home win (long overdue) and the Mancs and the Scousers
dropping points at the Arse will be the best possible scenario....
jb (temporary Arse supporter).
|
33.380 | Don't be Fogged off | BAHTAT::LZOP01::blythe | Leeds Leeds Leeds !!! | Wed Jan 29 1992 19:02 | 6 |
| The game against Bayern looks dodgy - the undersoil heating has been doing
its work, but fog is another matter. It's been foggy all day, and it is
expected to be thicker after dark, as well as b**** cold. I may stay in
and watch the Arse beat the Pool (or will it be an exciting 0-0 draw ?)
jb.
|
33.381 | A draw. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Jan 30 1992 13:24 | 18 |
| Leeds 1 Bayern 1
I didn't go in the end, it was b**** cold, and I had to be up early
this morning (6.5 125 to Brum, I'm in the Sutton Coldfield office this
morning). Hodge scored for Leeds on 10, a Strachan / Sterland
combination resulting in a cross to Hodge. Hodge could have had a hat
trick in 20 minutes, but didn't. Bayern equalised after a silly Whyte
back pass, and the 2nd half was more practice than anything else -
Strachan and Batty being replaced by Kelly and Whitlow - Kelly played
very well, and HW rates him. I wonder if he will see any acion in the
next few games ? Wallace also played well, he is good onm the flanks
running at the defenders. Shutt had 20 minutes as well, but the tempo
of the game was one of a practice by then.
Notts County on Sat, 3 badly needed pointys are at stake, good luck to
the Arse and Chelsea !
jb.
|
33.382 | To Bond or not to Bond | WELCLU::CADD | I Got a T.V., You Got a T.V. | Fri Jan 31 1992 20:29 | 21 |
|
The Leeds v Bayern match started VERY slow (well it was a friendly).
I was stuck to my seat at half time (due to the cold).
I expected to see Kovacs but it takes about 2 weeks for his EC
work permit to come through. I agree with jb (-1),Kelly does look a good
player, has good vision and controls the ball well. Batts was
substituted at half time due to a dead leg. Huggy gave away a stupid
goal but what the heck it was only a friendly. Hoeness is in the middle
of a rebuilding program after his star players moved to Italy mostly.
One of the Laudrup brothers plays for them and i was impressed with
his performance.
Paul.
Notts county tomorrow (weather permitting), we could go back top
if the mancs slip up with a draw or lose.
|
33.383 | Our turn on top again ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Mon Feb 03 1992 05:27 | 15 |
|
Leeds United (1) 3 Notts County (0) 0
Sterland
Batty !!!!!
Wallace
A day for collectors items, first home win since November and
David Batty scores again - that's twice in one season !
Back on top as well and HW signs Eric Cantona the 'volatile'
Frenchman on loan until the end of the season. That's a sensible
move, no money wasted if he doesn't perform (unlike Graham Taylor
and his panic buy of Cascarino for Villa two seasons ago in
similar circumstances).
|
33.384 | Back to the top. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Feb 03 1992 13:30 | 27 |
33.385 | | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Feb 03 1992 19:18 | 8 |
| A fixture change -
The Sheff Utd (a) game will now be played on Sun 26 April, 12 noon
kick off.
The League title will already be at Elland Road by then.
jb.
|
33.386 | | OPG::TONY | | Mon Feb 03 1992 21:37 | 9 |
| > The League title will already be at Elland Road by then.
John,
I hope for your sake that it happens cos we've seen the above alot lately..!!
Overconfident or Very nervous...!!!!
Tony
|
33.387 | News / FSA Meeting (longish) | 42820::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Feb 04 1992 17:47 | 170 |
33.388 | What's left - a prediction. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Feb 04 1992 18:05 | 19 |
| What is left ?
Oldham a - w 3
Villa h - w 6
Everton a - w 9
Luton h - w 12
Spurs a - d 13
Wimbledon h - w 16
Arse a - d 17
West Ham h - w 20
Man C a - d 21
Chelsea h - d 22
Liverpool a - l 22
Coventry h - w 25
Sheff U a - d 26
Norwich h - w 29
14 games, 29 points.
jb.
|
33.389 | What did Emily Hughes say? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Feb 04 1992 19:38 | 13 |
| While reading the match report on Sunday I came across a comment about some
enterprising chaps selling "who is Emily Hughes anyhow" T-shirts. Why?
Was it that he said Leeds didn't have the players to last out the league
chase or something equally stupifying?
Re -1. I wonder is it enough points ( 29 from 14 games ) to win the league with.
It may depend upon how much further MUFC go in the cups. For our sake I hope
that they have loads of replays and eventually win both of the cups ;-).
Hope this Catona boy is the stuff and not as load of bluff.
James.
|
33.390 | Crazy Horse Hughes / The team Mark Hughes dives for | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Feb 04 1992 19:53 | 20 |
| re Emlyn Hughes.
He slagged off Leeds in the Daily Mirror before the Manc games - Every
Leeds side is Evil / All Leeds fans are Neanderthals - that sort of
thing. It didn't go down too well with Leeds Uniterd, Leeds City
Council and the Police. Mr Hughes has been written to, and warned the
next time he says anything like that he will be hearing from Messrs
Sue, Grabbit and Runne, there might also be a summons in the post for
incitement.
re -1
Look in the Manc note for a guess of how they will do - I don't think
there will be a lot in it at the end. Any team finishing above Leeds
will be Champions. Remember, the Mancs have a 4th round replay, a 2
leg R Cup semi, and there's still lots of bad weather to come. Maybe
the Mancs will get to the semis of the FA Cup as well, (after replays
of course) and get knocked out by Wrexham.
jb.
|
33.391 | 12 years of tory rule, and then you get... | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Wed Feb 05 1992 13:34 | 9 |
|
"Leeds Uniterd"
So, you actually have purpose built shit factories up there ? Wouldn't
have thought it necessary myself ....
8-)
Ads.
|
33.392 | Sp. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Feb 05 1992 19:37 | 3 |
| For the illiterate amongst us, 'Terd' is spelt 'Turd'
jb.
|
33.393 | mummy, mummy, look at that man's head .... | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Wed Feb 05 1992 20:05 | 4 |
|
And for the humourless, "pedantic" is spelt "kiss_my_left_one, buddy"
AJ.
|
33.394 | No Eric tonight | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Feb 05 1992 20:42 | 5 |
| Cantona will not play in the reserve game vs Bolton at Elland Road
tonight, he still hasn't acheived Match fitness. It is possible he
might be sub on Saturday at Oldham.
jb.
|
33.396 | It's obvious what is planned :^) | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Thu Feb 06 1992 12:01 | 10 |
|
Of course it all falls into place ...
10 minutes to go and Leeds trail 2-0, with Man Utd leading 2-1
against Sheff Wed it seems Leeds are going to be knocked off the
top. Then on comes super sub and with typical Gallic flair scores
a hat trick, the final goal being a 50 yard lob from the halfway
line to keep Leeds on top. Making him sub will ensure all those
millions of Canal+ viewers will stay tuned until the end of the
game (and the end of the adverts).
|
33.397 | | RIGHTO::HAIGH | and it would be O.K. on any other day... | Thu Feb 06 1992 12:43 | 4 |
| Anybody know what the odds are on Cantona getting sent off?
Steve
|
33.398 | No prima donnas please ! | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Thu Feb 06 1992 12:46 | 3 |
|
If he gets sent-off (assuming he plays or is a sub) he'll be on
his way back to France before the classified results !
|
33.399 | 400 Vs 950 notes Lads!!! | YUPPY::HOGAN | The 91/92 Champions, Don't doubt it! | Thu Feb 06 1992 17:57 | 13 |
| Just been in the MUFC confrence for the umpteinth time and there is a
definate feeling of despondancy creeping into their thoughts. It was
the best possible result for Leeds, note that I thought it was a great
game and tough luck to Man U. as I thought they played textbook stuff
for most of the match, but I'm a Leeds fan through and through and that
result will depleat energy and moral which is needed now more than
ever. If one team opens up a gap of more than four points then I think
that team will win the championship. Now, H.W. has he been clever? well
I think he has gambled and probably won Leeds the league with the
signing of Monsieur Cantona as he will add an unperdictable flavour
to the Leeds team and inadvertantly pepping up the rest of the team
to compete for places. What will happen to the likes of Shutt who
intrested Liverpool before Sourpuss got in.
|
33.400 | Why do Man U & Liverpool play poorly in the Cups ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Fri Feb 07 1992 05:15 | 16 |
|
I don't think the Man Utd / Soton result will help Leeds as much
as if Man Utd had got through. There will be a backlash on Saturday,
and now Man Utd only have 3 Cup games at the most left. If they
had got through they could have been playing midweek Cup games
right through until April. I wish they would keep their poor
performances for the league (like QPR game) rather than the Cups.
The same applies to Liverpool, if only the Peterborough and Bristol
Rovers and Stoke and (was it Port Vale ?) games had been league
games.
Any team news for tomorrow ? Since Villa are still in the FA Cup
I presume the league game against them on the 15th is off, which
will please Lee Chapman, he'll probably be fit when the game is
finally played. Wonder if he'll make it a hat-trick this time, or
stick to 2 goals as usual.
|
33.401 | Have a Guess. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Feb 07 1992 14:07 | 11 |
| Wilko wil decide who plays tomorrow before kick off ! Sterland should
have shaken off the leg injury picked up against Notts County, Cantona
may or may not play. If he does, Speed will drop to midfield and Hodge
will be sub.
The game vs Villa next Sat is now a TBA fixture. Leeds tried to move the
Easter Tuesday game vs Coventry but Coventry didn't want to, so it
looks like a blank weekend, or more probably a friendly vs Team T of
Country C, at home or away.
jb.
|
33.402 | Team T from Country C, away. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Feb 07 1992 14:48 | 7 |
| Re: -1
I remember reading something a while back about the fact that Leeds will be
playing Shelbourne in Dublin sometime around the 15th of this month. Can
anyone else confirm or deny it?
James.
|
33.403 | Begorrah, it's Leeds again | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Feb 07 1992 15:01 | 8 |
| re -1
I haven't heard anything about Shelbourne, but it would make sense,
they have played Shelbourne a lot in the past, a good crowd will turn
up (a chance for the substantial group of Leeds O'Fans to go and see
their adopted team).
jb.
|
33.404 | Leeds v Shels next week | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Fri Feb 07 1992 16:44 | 4 |
|
Leeds meet shels next Thursday at Tolka Park.
Gary.
|
33.405 | Still top come Tea-Time. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Feb 07 1992 18:21 | 11 |
| I hope that 3 points come from the fixture at Boundary park on Sat.
I'll be in the area, am on the East Lancs Railway between Bury and
Ramsbottom (Tup's Arse) and pm watching Burnley leather Lincoln and
remain top of Div 4, so I'll tune in to Radio Lancashire and see how
things are progressing at OT (lack of Manc progression) and Boundary
Park.
I'm off now to talk to the Quack on the results of a head
X-Ray...(honest - no sneaky jokes you lot out there ;-) )
jb.
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33.406 | Cantona | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Fri Feb 07 1992 19:09 | 5 |
|
Why exactly has Cantona got such a 'bad' reputation?
S
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33.407 | Sgt Wilko's Barmy army | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Fri Feb 07 1992 19:45 | 18 |
|
Because he has a reputation of telling the ref and managers exactly what
he thinks of them, (I don't think Wilko will stand for to much pf that
though). Besides he believes that a lot of the reports about Cantona
have been (as usual by the press) blown out of proportion.
I will be there @ Boundary Park tomorrow watching with me old dad
and brother who are season ticket holders at Oldham. Leeds had better
win or i'm not buying them a pint after the game !!!!!
0 - 2 to Leeds with Wallace and Cantona to score on his debut
Paul
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33.408 | Start Counting Again | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Mon Feb 10 1992 12:58 | 11 |
33.409 | Oh b*gger ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Feb 10 1992 13:11 | 12 |
| The 2nd loss of the season, but only the Arse won in the top 1/2 of the
table - a blow, but not terminal. According to the reports Leeds didn't
get a look in, Oldham raised their game and the result was about right.
There is a 2 week gap till the next League game, away at Goodison a
week on Sunday. There was an interesting comment from Trevor Francis in
the paper this morning, he said the Old Trafford pitch may lose the
championship for the Mancs - it's so poor, good football can't be
played. The pitch has to be doused with water to keep it half-playable,
when it's dry, it's much much worse.
jb.
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33.410 | I'm forever building sandcastles!! | WELCLU::CADD | I Got a T.V., You Got a T.V. | Mon Feb 10 1992 15:10 | 40 |
|
Well we deserved the result on saturday considering the way we played.
we have now lost 2 matches all season the SAME as MAN U . The Leeds
never looked likely to score, the Oldham defence were very solid. The
midfield for Oldham ran the show feeding the L/H wing and Rick Holden
who was jinking passed Sterland every time to rain crosses down into
the Leeds box.
When we did get the ball we couln't get moving due to Oldham
Hustling for 90 mins. Our passing was poor marking was bad, but Oldham
attacked in numbers but on this occasion Royle has seemed to plug his
defence if there was the slightest hint of a fast Leeds break
(unlikely!!!).
The fist goal was well taken as the ball came of the R/H post and
and poor marking on Henry let him in. The second was down to us again
pushing up to look for the equaliser. A fast break down the left were
they new they had been probing all match, produced a cross for Barlow
to control and put past Lukic at the far post, credit to Oldham who
outplayed us (I didn't buy my dad a pint in the end (sore loser!!!))
Cantona came on in the second half nearly scoring with his first
touch his next two or three touches were all back heels ??.
There were as many press at boundary park to see him as there were at
Newcastle, when he came out he just went and sat on the bench no
acknowledgement to the Leeds fans, well that's L'Enfant Terrible
Sterland was subbed for Whitlow in the second half and limped off.If
he wasn't fit because of his ankle what was Wilko doing picking him to
pin dowm a winger with pace like Holden???
Everton next away live on the box, due to no game next week because
Villa are in the F.A. cup. Man U miss a game as well i think as they
are due to play West Ham. I'd rather be missing home games than away.
Paul..
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33.411 | | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Mon Feb 10 1992 22:24 | 16 |
|
We now have a game for this saturday, it's against IFK Gothenburg
the Swedish champions 3.00 o'clock K.O. The present IFK side contains
7 players from the Swedish national side.
Batts and Dorigo have been selected for the friendly against France
next week as has Cantona. I shall be there at that one.
McAllister and Strachan have also been selected to play for
Scotland in the game against Northern Ireland next week.
Paul...
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33.412 | Calling anybody in Galway who would like to see Leeds on Thursday? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Feb 11 1992 12:53 | 10 |
33.413 | leeds | YUPPY::HOGAN | The 91/92 Champions, Don't doubt it! | Tue Feb 11 1992 13:07 | 14 |
| It is good to see six internationals in the Leeds squad, could
have been seven if Lukic had been given the nod over third place
cotton. As for Saturdays result I can only hope that thats the worst
performance of the season submitted by a lathergic Leeds. Looking at
the individual performances I would have to be critical of Big Mel
for not plugging the defence, something he has been guilty of more than
once this season, now I know the responce willcome charging in that he
is a player who is capable of winning a game for Leeds, so perhaps he
should be pushed further upfield to a more threatening position.
Cantona will gel with the forward line in the near future and I see
him leading a good front line as does Chapman so a needed victory over
Everton in two weeks please!
Question- how are the reserves and the Central league team doing?
|
33.414 | Friendly. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Feb 11 1992 15:52 | 15 |
33.415 | Bond/Friendlies/Och aye the noo Jimmy | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Feb 14 1992 15:16 | 13 |
33.416 | Oh Bondage up yours! | ARRODS::OHAGANB | m o t o r h e a d | Fri Feb 14 1992 16:03 | 4 |
| Arsenal Bond, Hammers Bond, and now this? I daresay the Newcastle
version will be called the "(St) James Bond?"
Barry Bond
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33.417 | Match report form Shelbourne V Leeds 13/2/92 | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Feb 14 1992 17:23 | 55 |
| Leeds were well worth their victory against Shelbourne last night at a cold Tolka
park. There was really only one team in the game and it wasn't Shels! Leeds
possessed much more power, fitness, and finesse on a night which made football
fairly hard to play because the underground conditions were fairly slippy.
Leeds lined out with a near full strength team
Lukic
Newsome Fairclough Whyte Dorigo
Strachan Batty McAllister Speed
Cantona Wallace.
Leeds were never really pushed although it took two goals in the mid part of the
second half to finally decide the issue. The lads started out brightly with two
goals disallowed within the first twenty minutes. The second by Cantona was ruled
very dubiously off-side. Strachan was tackled awkwardly in the opening stages of
the game and consequently kept on the peripheral of the game for the rest of the
match. Shels best chances of the game came from a back pass that went
slightly astray and a good cross that wasn't met by an oncoming forward in time.
The second half started out with a lot of end to end stuff without any real
penetration. Then, Cantona brought a good save from Byrne Shels keeper but the
follow up should have been put away. Soon afterwards Cantona again shuddered
the post with a piledriver that the keeper hardly saw. We didn't have to wait
much longer for the goals.
Number one came from a Strachan corner on the right crossed in, headed on by
Whyte and it was eventually put away from about 3-5 yards by Fairclough. The
second goal came soon afterwards ( 6 mins ) with Strachan feeding Speed who put
a daisy cutter into the left hand corner from about 15 yards. 2-0 and the game
had ebbed away from Shels. Even with 15 minutes to go, half the crowd started
to leave. Very disconcerting to the real supporter. Funnily enough Leeds had
made no substitutions until then so it seemed that they were taking this game
seriously, to give Cantona a good work out. After the 2 goals Leed made three
substitutions bringing on Kelly and Curtis, two Irish lads to satisfy the home
crowd.
I wasn't particularly impressed with Cantona. He was full of the nice touches BUT
seems to be sharp in front of the goal, once he gets his range and shooting boots
properly fitted. Batty should have been booked as he committed a series of niggly
fouls/tackles, the usual Batty stuff. Otherwise it was very hard to gauge the
team performance from a game such as this.
Shels have a well appointed ground which was 90% full last night i.e 9-11 K,
Mostly sitting. Unfortunately, there was no programme provided for the night that
was in it. I hope Shels win the league as they seem to have a well run setup with
a good pitch to play football on. Leeds fans can't seem to get enough of the Lads
as this was their fifth trip since they gained promotion from the second division
two years ago. Long may it continue and hopefully I will have seen the League
Champions ( 91-92 ) in action last night.
James.
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33.418 | newsome? | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Careful with that axe, Eugene | Fri Feb 14 1992 18:32 | 5 |
| James,
is Newsome a new face?
cant remember seeing him before?
Ian.
|
33.419 | ksaxowqkd-`230dws | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | | Fri Feb 14 1992 21:03 | 4 |
33.420 | Drawing crowds? | TRUCKS::SANT | | Sat Feb 15 1992 13:52 | 6 |
|
What with? A new set of crayons? 8-)
Leeds have been getting good crowds at Elland Road all season.
Andy.
|
33.421 | McCalister | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Tue Feb 18 1992 13:16 | 9 |
33.422 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Feb 18 1992 17:21 | 15 |
33.423 | Reports, please!! | GOTA1::APPELQVIST | Your man on the Northern front | Fri Feb 21 1992 13:31 | 7 |
33.424 | Goths and Toffee | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Feb 21 1992 13:40 | 21 |
| Leeds 0 Gothenburg 1
Gothenburg took the lead after 5 minutes, whwn a quick break found
Leeds asleep. There were about 8,000 fans there, there wasn't much
atmosphere, and it was a friendly. Leeds looked good at times, Cantona
hit a post and had one effort well saves by the Gothenburg goalie. The
Swedes looked good, and would have given Leeds a hard time if the game
had had any meaning other than a practice match for both teams.
The last 20 minutes were a little dull, no team wanting to tire
themselves out or risk injuries.
League action resumes on Sunday, Leeds are away at Everton, it's live
on ITV. Sterland has shaken off a thigh injury, Speed should be fit
after a knock received in Ireland but Hodge is out with a recurrence of
a calf strain. The line up on Sunday should be Lukic, Sterland, Dorigo,
Whyte, Fairclough, Batty, McAllister, Strachan, Speed, Wallace, Cantona
and the subs will be choose any 2 from 5, ie Shutt and Whitlow. I
expect Leeds to carry on with their League TV form, ie win. The others
in the title race can draw or lose.
jb.
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33.425 | When the cat's away - b*gger all happens ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Feb 21 1992 13:42 | 6 |
| re 89.40 ...
This topic has been quiet because I've been out of t'office drumming up
punters for our desktop offerings in Warrington and Edinburgh.
jb.
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33.426 | Quiet here ? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Feb 21 1992 14:45 | 8 |
| Re: -1
Well at least this topic is quiet because nothing is happening not like some
other topics where there is a lot of activity i.e 1 liners but with little
content. When we have something to say we say it and don't waste bandwidth
having a full blown conversation over the network ;-)
James.
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33.427 | A point gained ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Feb 24 1992 13:32 | 11 |
| Everton 1 Leeds 1
Not a great match, Leeds played well enough to get a point and nothing
else. The Mancs are 3 ahead, possibly (but hopefully not) 6 ahead on
Wed. The chases either drew or lost, only Wednesday winning, so it's
Leeds or the Mancs for the title, if it isn't one of those 2, the
eventual title winners will win the title because Leeds or Man U threw
it away. Luton on Sat, Chapman could well be back.
jb (off to Jockland again in 10 mins ...)
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33.428 | Injuries!!! | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Tue Feb 25 1992 12:52 | 13 |
|
Read on Ceefax that Rod Wallace was going to see a Specialist about his
leg injury. Didn't say what exactly was wrong or how long he would be
out. Anyone have more details?
Steve Hodges Calf injury is persisting. He will miss the next few
games and should go in for an operation in the Summer.
Lets hope that the injury list does not increase!!
S
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33.429 | Get the slide rule and calculator out. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Feb 27 1992 17:02 | 32 |
| Wallace should play on Saturday, Chapman is doubtful, but could play vs
Villa. Hodge will have an op at the end of the season, he is also
doubtful for Saturday.
The bond scheme is to go ahead, the Leeds board are expecting 8,000
fans to sign up.
Last night's result went OK, it could have been better ! The Mancs face
a tough away game at Coventry on Sat, a draw would be fine, we play
Luton on Saturday and Villa on Tuesday, both at Elland Rd, hopefully 6
points - we need them ! That might put us top by 1 point if the Mancs
don't win vs Coventry.
Games left are :-
Home Away
Luton Spurs
Villa QPR
Wimbledon Arsenal
West Ham Man City
Chelsea Liverpool
Coventry Sheffield Utd
Norwich
7h 6a, a little better than the Mancs run in I think.
Home matches must be won, and away matches must consist of at least
draws with a few wins ! Not easy, but the Mancs don't have it easy
either, it will be close.
jb.
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33.430 | Agana hits the north!! | WELCLU::CADD | I Got a T.V., You Got a T.V. | Thu Feb 27 1992 23:40 | 19 |
|
We have taken Tony Agana on a loan swap with Notts County. We have
given them John Mclelland (i think). don't know many details or the
loan period.
Prehaps you could shed some light on the deal Jon???
Seems a good move to me to go in for a another striker. Everyone was
saying that at the BEGINNING of the season we needed strikers and Wilko
waits till now !!!
Luton on saturday, should be tree points in the bag. Man U got
another get out of jail free card last night scoring ~2mins from time,
we are still in touch but it's gonna be close!!!!
Paul...
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33.431 | Wilko strikes ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Feb 28 1992 13:45 | 23 |
| Wilko strikes again ! Big John McClelland and Tony Agana have swopped
clubs for a 1 month period, Agana has been admired by Wilko for some
time, McClelland will hold the County defence together and maybe keep
them up. Williams is to stay with County for a further month - could
Big John and Williams be part of a player exchange deal for Agana ?
Radio Leeds siad Agana could play on Saturday, Chapman has said he is
willing to play, and there is also Cantona - Leeds now have a striker
glut to keep them on track for the championship.
Chris Kamara returns to Elland Road tomorrow, he was a popular player,
always gave 100% effort, he'll get a good reception but will finish up
on the losing side.
Hodge is going to have an operation on his troublesome calf, Leeds
don't seem to have got much out of him this season. Tomorrow's team is
unclear, but I'll guess :-
Lukic, Sterland, Dorigo, Whyte, Fairclough, Strachan, Batty,
McAllister, Speed, Wallace, (Cantona, Chapman, Agana), Subs Whitlow and
one of CC&A or Shutt. All will be revealed on Radio Leeds about 2.30
whilst I'm on my way from the Adelphi to Elland Rd.
jb.
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33.432 | Hatters do MANCS a favour. | WELCLU::BWALKER | Come on you Hatters. | Fri Feb 28 1992 16:17 | 16 |
| Re 430.
Caddy,
"Luton on saturday should be three points in the bag."
Don't be so confident my boy. I reckon the law of averages means the
Town are going to win away whether they play well or not. It could be
Saturday.
I'm confident of at LEAST a point. Remember you scrapped home last
year.
Regards,
Barry.
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33.433 | Oooh aaah Cantona Eric Cantona ..... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 02 1992 17:17 | 22 |
| Leeds 2 Luton 0
In the first 15 minutes, Luton were there for the taking, but Leeds
weren't firing on all cylingers. Dorigo went off injured after 25
minutes, and Spped had to go to left back to cover - so Leeds lost
their midfield bite a little. Eric Cantona came on, and he is already a
favourite with the Elland Road fans. Leeds struggled in the first half,
but Luton didn't offer too many heart failure moments ...
In the 2nd half, Leeds played poorly to begin with, and Luton had a few
shots, they should have done better. In a 5 minute purple patch on the
hour, Cantona missed an open goal, as did Strachan and Chapman.
McAllister went through, was brought down by Sutton, the ref played a
good adventage and Eric the Gaul got his first goal for Leeds. Leeds
then fell asleep again, and 1 goal wasn't going to be enough. Chapman
magde it 2-0 with the goal of the day.
The Mancs drew, we can go 7 points clear by next Wed ....
Luton weren't that bad, Kamara got a good reception.
jb.
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33.434 | I was cussing my player ref, honest ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 02 1992 18:10 | 13 |
| Wilko is down the smoke today, appearing before an FA Disciplinary
commitee for alleged comments made to the linesman after Watson cheated
during Wednesday's hammering in January. Tony Dorigo was apparently the
target of his criticism, he's injured and can't travel to London and
therefore can't act as witness.
Dorigo looks dodgy for tomorrow, Whitlow could deputise. Hopefully,
another 3 points in the bag before the next 2 away games in London, at
Spurs and QPR respectively. Now wouldn't 9 points out of these 2 games
look nice ....
jb.
|
33.435 | | FUTURS::DAGLESS | | Mon Mar 02 1992 18:40 | 5 |
|
.434> Spurs and QPR respectively. Now wouldn't 9 points out of these 2 games
.434> look nice ....
Not even Leeds can manage that!
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33.436 | Wanna bet !!! | EICMFG::HOWE | Alice in ordnung | Mon Mar 02 1992 18:49 | 1 |
|
|
33.437 | errm ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 02 1992 18:59 | 5 |
| re .434 :-
Sorry folks, I was using Oracle Benchmark Logic ;-)
jb.
|
33.438 | What didido? | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | | Mon Mar 02 1992 21:24 | 4 |
33.439 | From where I was.... | LEMAN::BURKHALTER | | Tue Mar 03 1992 10:29 | 7 |
| He headed the ball on into the area from about 10 meters outside in
what looked like a typical 50-50 challenge for the ball that he won,
looks like a very useful buy for Leeds.
Next time watch the TF1 football highlights on Sunday evening JF :-)
-Dom
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33.440 | Tout a fait, Thierry ... | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Tue Mar 03 1992 12:22 | 1 |
|
|
33.441 | Villa next in the firing line. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Mar 03 1992 13:49 | 20 |
| Dorigo is struggling to be fit for tonight, Speed may take the left
back spot again, leaving Cantona and Chapman together up front, with
Whitlow and Agana on the bench (or Whitlow to start with Cantona and
Agana on the bench). Whatever happens, the speedy Villa wingers will
need to be stopped, just like they were at Villa Park, whwn Leeds won
4-1. Leeds aren't playing as well as then , but I expect a victory
tonight, they can't go on playing as poorly as they have been for most
of 1992. Spurs on Saturday, they will get mauled at Feyenoord, they
might get a draw, but several players will have bits missing, and they
will be tired - and then they have Leeds, could be another 3 points.
QPR is the following Wednesday, QPR did the double over us last season,
so that has got to be avenged - Strachan also got sent off, the first
time in his career, that might be a draw, but a win would be better,
putting the pressure on the Mancs.
Wilko's FA disciplinary hearing has been postponed till 16 March,
Dorigo wasn't able to attend as Wilko's witness. Gary Newbond the ITV
Match presenter is also to give evidence for Wilko.
jb.
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33.442 | What odds on neither United's winning the league? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Mar 03 1992 16:50 | 13 |
| I don't particularly like the idea that if Leeds were to get 9 points from the
next three games that the league is destined for Leeds, as we will then be 7 pts
ahead with 3 more games played. Has anybody bothered to see our schedule after
those three games. Man city, Arsenal and Liverpool all away in five games after
that.
This league will go down to the final few if not the last game of the season. It
may be too much for some ;-). It does seem that the League is between the two
United's as the rest are too far behind. Come to think of it what are the odds
of neither of the united's winning the league, may be worth a flutter as a loony
bet!
James.
|
33.443 | | MACNAS::MHASSETT | | Tue Mar 03 1992 18:52 | 9 |
|
I reckon that Leeds will either be 1 point ahead or behind the
Mancs as I think they will drop 6 to 8 points in their next 3 games.
yours in hope !
Hass.
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33.444 | Bond Bug available in orange!!! | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Tue Mar 03 1992 19:08 | 26 |
|
jb
Did my ears decieve me on saturday or did i hear a slight sound of
dissent amongst the Leeds fans as Leslie Silver was handing out the
first 10 bonds to united supporters !!!
I do notice that if you pay for your bond over a 12 month instalment
period then a lot of the benefits are not given until the bond is paid
in full. E.G. no #100 discount until 93/94 if you pay by instalments.
I believe it to be a good scheme but wonder how many hidden clauses
may affect the punter in the long run. The sentence :-
"Season Ticket prices fixed at prices set for the 1992/93 season
adjusted for no more than increases allowing for inflation,any changes
in taxation or levies imposed by the football authorities."
I notice they put football authorities as they don't actually know WHO
will be running football next season ...
anyone like to comment on the above ???
Paul....
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33.445 | Bond bugs ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Mar 03 1992 21:14 | 14 |
33.446 | 0-0 | SIOG::N_DONNELLY | | Wed Mar 04 1992 02:27 | 14 |
| Final score
Leeds 0-0 Villa (Strachan missed a second-half penalty)
ps. you lot are doing you damnest to blow it
|
33.447 | No Bottle | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Wed Mar 04 1992 14:41 | 4 |
33.448 | Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaantona! | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | | Wed Mar 04 1992 19:48 | 9 |
33.449 | | YUPPY::PANES | a leper can't change his spots | Wed Mar 04 1992 21:36 | 17 |
33.450 | Down to 9 men. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Mar 05 1992 13:32 | 13 |
| Leeds 0 Villa 0
Frantic, Strachan misses a penalty, Leeds down to 9 men due to
Fairclough and Sterland colliding, Fairclough is replaced by
McClelland, both Fairclough and Sterland spent the night in hospital,
they are both doubtful for Saturday. Talking of Saturday, Dorigo,
Wallace and maybe the Sterland and Fairclough are out, McClelland has
gone to Notts County on loan - we're looking a bit frail at the back...
We need to win the next 2 games, against the Totters and QPR - both
away.
jb.
|
33.451 | Wembley 1990 Who Won The Cup | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Thu Mar 05 1992 14:22 | 11 |
33.452 | It were t'piemen | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Mar 05 1992 15:11 | 5 |
| re -1
If I remember rightly it was Wigan (as per usual :-( )
jb.
|
33.453 | Loans / Injuries | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Mar 06 1992 13:13 | 24 |
| There have been some loan players in lately :-
Cantona from Nimes
Agana from Notts Co
And some out :-
McClelland to Notts Co
Mervyn Day to Luton
Bobby Davison to Sheff Utd
On the injury front, Sterland and Fairclough are fit to play against
the Totters, Dorigo is out, and Wallace is a doubt, he has a recurrence
of the shin injury that sidelined him in the earlier part of the
season. 3 points is needed from tomorrows game, to put some pressure on
the Mancs.
The title race now looks to be between Leeds and the Mancs, Man City
and Sheff Wed are too inconsistent, Liverpool have blown it. It will go
to the last game of the season, I hope the TV companies don't mess
about with the schedules and Leeds kick off at the same time as the
Mancs, Leeds are at home vs Norwich, the Mancs play ????
jb.
|
33.454 | Lee | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Ian Hawley, South UK VMS support | Fri Mar 06 1992 13:28 | 12 |
| > The title race now looks to be between Leeds and the Mancs,
> Man City and Sheff Wed are too inconsistent,
if you lot werent so inconsistent, youd have an almost unassailable
lead, as it is, it looks as if YOUVE blown it.
i hope you havent.
how is Lee Chapman since his return?
i saw the goal......
Ian.
|
33.455 | It's all over | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Fri Mar 06 1992 14:14 | 9 |
33.456 | Who will score first?? | FUTURS::FLETCHER | | Fri Mar 06 1992 14:45 | 7 |
| The way the UTD's are playing at the moment another 10 or 11 0-0 draws
should secure you a memorable championship.
All Leeds and Man U supporters should be thankfull that the rest of the
first division doesnt seem interested in winning the championship ;-)
Nigel
|
33.457 | Injuries Improve / HTFC | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Mar 06 1992 17:48 | 14 |
| Wallace and Whitlow are added to the fit pool of players, so it's only
Dorigo that is ruled out tomorrow. The forward line will consist of any
x from the following, Wallace, Chapman, Agana, Cantona and Shutt.
3 points tomorrow (please !)
Something else, nothing to do with Leeds United, but of possible
interest to O'Noters is that Huddersfield Town have sacked their
manager, Eoin Hand, who used to be the Irish Manager if I remember
correctly. Huddersfield have slumped since the New Year, and are in
danger of slipping out of the promotion frame in Div 3.
jb.
|
33.458 | Who'd be a manager? | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Fri Mar 06 1992 18:45 | 19 |
|
I know this is the wrong topic but re -1, I'm amazed. Eoin Hand was
linked with the Sunderland job a few weeks ago. He seemed to be having
a great season and I thought the board would stick by him depite a poor
run. Is there something else to the story or is it just poor results?
His first job was at Limerick where he won the league and cup in 3
seasons and we qualified for Europe every season under him. He missed
World Cup qualification on goal difference in 1982 but it was all odwn
hill from there. He left Limerick under a cloud (sadly most of our
managers do :-(). Humiliation piled upon humiliation in the next 3
years as Ireland manager and he finally lost his job after a mauling by
Denmark at Lansdowne. Enter Jack Charlton...
He has been in the Huddersfield job for quite a few years without ever
achieving much. They looked good this season but faltered. I hope he
bounces back.
Gary.
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33.459 | Spurs beaten at home (as usual) | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 09 1992 13:15 | 24 |
| Spurs 1 Leeds 3
Another 90 minute performance, but not one of the best according to
Wilko. Wallace put Leeds 1 up on about the 1/2 hour, and Spurs had some
good chances. Lineker went off injured after 15 minutes, and Stewart
was giving the Leeds defence a lot of work to do. Spurs equalised 3
mins after the break, and Leeds were on the ropes a little. Sterland
was replaced by Newsome, who scored 3 mins later, this lifted Leeds.
Whitlow was then replaced by Eric the Gaul, who almost immediately sent
an excellent through ball to McAllister who made it 3-1, and Spurs were
out of it. Leeds' 2 goals came in a 5 minute spell, they can destroy
any team when they play like that.
QPR on Wed night, they thrashed Man City 4-0 on Sat, we owe them one
for the double they did last season, Strachan also got sent off, the
first time in his career.
Leeds are now 2 points clear of the Mancs, but they do have 2 games in
hand. If Wed's result goes to plan (a win) then it will be 5 points
clear. The Mancs have to travel to Bramall Lane on Sat, Leeds have the
Wombles at Elland Rd. Wouldn't it be nice to be 8 points clear by
Saturday night ?
jb.
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33.460 | Will Dorigo Be Back?? | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Tue Mar 10 1992 13:58 | 4 |
|
Does any one know if Dorigo will be back for tomorrow's game?
S
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33.461 | That was *yesterday*... | TRUCKS::SANT | | Tue Mar 10 1992 15:28 | 3 |
|
Word is he is injured and so will not play. But you never know...
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33.462 | No Dorigo. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Mar 10 1992 17:57 | 7 |
| Dorigo has a knee ligament injury, and will not play vs QPR. Sterland
and Whitlow have both got over leg and groin injuries, so the team that
started vs Spurs will start vs QPR, Cantona and Newsome are expected to
be subs. A win is needed (obvious statement).
jb.
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33.463 | Fancy booking holiday this time of year. | WELCLU::BWALKER | Come on you Hatters. | Tue Mar 10 1992 23:28 | 8 |
| RE 60.
Does anyone know if Dorigo will be back for tomorrows game."
Where's he gone then. On holiday.
Barry.
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33.464 | Acid test | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Wed Mar 11 1992 20:51 | 15 |
| Really important game at Q.P.R tonight. A win would be a great boast to the team
and would really engender in them the possibility that they can win the
championship. Earlier on in the season I mentioned that Leeds have very defined
bogey teams for and against, Q.P.R was one of ours against from last year. They
doubled over us. We lost 2-0 late last season playing some good footie and
Strachan I remember getting sent off for arguing with the Ref over a seemingly
good goal being disallowed when we were 1-0 down.
Anything less than a win will leave MUFC with THREE games in hand and us being
only a handful of points up. Not even MUFC could fail to overcome that meagre
gap.
Leeds, Leeds, Leeds.
James
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33.465 | Cantona walks on acid!!! | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Wed Mar 11 1992 21:40 | 11 |
|
Sterland isn't playing tonight Newsome is starting in his first full
league debut. Cantona will be on the bench again.
Hodge returned to Elland road at the beginning of the week after
an operation.
We owe QPR for the 2-0 win against us last season.
Strachan got sent of at that game , I'm off to the game now as it's
only a few miles from the Welwyn office, i will try and get a match
report in for tomorrow!!!!!!
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33.466 | Games report for our external reporter Tim Kennedy, With permission! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Wed Mar 11 1992 22:45 | 107 |
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From: tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Bobby Gillespie's Hair)
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Subject: Spurs-Leeds Match Report
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Tottenham 1 Leeds 3
(Allen) (Wallace, Newsome, McAllister)
Leeds played crap on Saturday overall but of course winning
is the main thing. We could have lost by the same margin but
for the magic of John Lukic. It was hugely enjoyable
though, especially so in view of how worried everyone
was at several moments when it looked as if we were giving
victory to the home side.
They began briskly and took the game to the home side
with Tottenham reasonably menacing on the break.
There were flashes of the sort of class that Leeds have
displayed on their better days this season towards the
middle of the second half when they began to control the
midfield and string together passes across the field but
the overall impression was bad.
Wallace scored the first having been given the ball by Batty
via Spurs' Sedgeley, though based on his performance up
to that point I was expecting him to hit the hoardings.
Strachan was very good and a joy to watch. He went close
to scoring at least once and was instrumental in our surviving
the equaliser (by Allen which came in the first couple of
minutes of the second half) steadying the lads' nerves
with the example of his own determination.
Batty was his usual dependable self and also went close
in the second half. On one occasion he made a great move
down the left but there was no-one available to set up, and
it seemed he would have done better to have a go himself. He
stoutly won the ball many times when it encroached our box and
did the right thing, whacking it right back out again.
Chapman was having an off day, he seemed unable to get himself
in shooting positions and even lofted a Chapman-size cross to
the diminutive Wallace at one point, who watched it fly way over
his head.
We missed Dorigo a lot, the left side was lacking its usual
attack although Whitlow did ok on the whole.
Durie broke through at one point and was one-on-one with
Johnny Lukic but fluffed his chance. I wasn't worried by him
though. Stewart created a lot of trouble for Leeds.
The Leeds crowd provided some of the best entertainment,
with most of the singing directed at the current favourite
Eric Cantona. "Ooh-ah Can-to-na", "Er-i-ic" and the
tune to La Marseillaise were just some of the new chants.
The Tottenham were sedate to say the least. They appeared
to be so quiet I felt like going over to poke them with a
stick to see if they were alive.
Eric was on the touchline warming up at various points
during the first and second halves and waved at us to huge
cheers, encouraging the chanting presumably to get the
boss to put him on. He came on after we had gone 2-1
up in the 70th or so minute and things went blurry.
The tall young defender Jon Newsome scored from a corner
after just coming on as substitute for Whitlow, his first
goal for Leeds since joining from Sheffield Wednesday reserves
in the summer.
When the third goal went in pandemonium broke loose in the
Leeds end and we danced around much to the consternation
of the plod who gathered behind the goal. I'll miss the
terraces when they go. It just won't be the same. McAllister
was the scorer, and the creator was the man of the day if not
of the match, M. Cantona (lets be fair, he was only playing
about 20 minutes. The away end at White Hart Lane became the
Parc Des Princes for several minutes.
Walsh was a continual source of problems as he made
frequent incursions into the Leeds half. Allen was good
also, as was Howells. Spurs should consider themselves
hard done by really, although it felt really good to beat them.
Wednesday is more of a concern to me (i.e. the day, not
Sheffield 6-1 Wednesday, they're crap) because we face QPR
an extremely good side who are anxious to avoid the
relegation zone. They beat Man City 4-0 on Saturday so
the players must be at their best to get the vital 3
points to keep us in touch with the title chase. Man
U have not played a league game for over a week now and
we need to consolidate a bigger lead than two points.
Tim
--
Levitation's music is like sitting | Tim Kennedy <tim@tcom.stc.co.uk>
on a pillar of salt for 20 years | Dept 30730 BNR Europe,
and just licking the salt, saying | Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB, UK.
nothing. -Terry Bickers | Sheffield Wednesday 1 Leeds United 6
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33.467 | | RIGHTO::HAIGH | He's gone to early! | Thu Mar 12 1992 12:03 | 11 |
| >only a few miles from the Welwyn office, i will try and get a match
>report in for tomorrow!!!!!!
I wonder if you'll still try! ;-)
QPR 4 Leeds 1.
QPR have now scored 4 against, United, City and Leeds!
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33.468 | Definition of total despair :-( | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Thu Mar 12 1992 12:52 | 14 |
| Despair vb.
1. (intr.; often foll. by of) to lose or give up hope: I despair of
(*Leeds*)/his coming.
2. (tr.) Obsolete. to give up hope of; lose hope in. ~n.
3. total loss of hope.
4. A person of thing that causes hopelessness or for which there is no hope:
(*I despair of Leeds even winnig the league*).
James.
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33.469 | ooops. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Mar 12 1992 14:58 | 11 |
| QPR 4 Leeds 1
Leeds went 1-0 up after 10 minutes, and had more chances. QPR got one
back, after a poor corner clearance - Leeds let them back into the
game, and threw it away in the 2nd half. Looks like they were well and
truly beaten, it's the largest no of gols they have let in this season.
I hope they do better on Saturday. At least they are still top, but the
Mancs have 3 games in hand, and Liverpool are closing - 12 points
behind with 2 games in hand.
jb.
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33.470 | Queens Park Routers!!!! | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Thu Mar 12 1992 18:36 | 38 |
|
Well what can you say, we had all the chances to go 2 or 3 up in the
first half but failed to finish. QPR scoed just after Wallace had gone
off after a clash of heads with Peacock. From there QPR didn't really
look back, Les Ferdinand had the pace of an out of sorts defence all
night (Witlow clutching at his groin from start of game to finish).
If he was't fit what was he doing on the pitch against strikers with
pace like Sinton and Ferdinand.
Good ball in from the right on 10 mins from Newsome saw Speed jump
well and head down to bottom left corner of Stejskal's goal.
Could have had another from McAllisters free kick from just outside
the 18 yrd box which Steyskal got down really well for.
We were well in to the match up until the 2 goal spree by QPR, the
first put in from an impossible angle on the right.
Strachan was constantly coaching Newsome to get back into position
and i think the lack of our usual defenders lost us the game.
All credit to QPR who kep the ball on the ground and did a lot of
running off the ball from midfield through the middle. We lost control
of the midfield with Wilkins spreading the ball all over the place,out
to the wingers and through the middle. The Whyte incident shouldn't
have occured, there was no way Huggy was going to get to the ball so why
put the tackle in.( Will we call back McClelland form Notts county to
fill in?).
The Next visitors to QPR are the Mancs late in March, I'd like to
see how they get on against them the way QPR are playing at the moment.
Wimbledon on saturday and we need to put this defeat and the
psychological difference behind us with man u having three games in
hand. We are still top and thats what counts. Man U are not infallable
and can drop points as well!!!!!
Cheers Paul......
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33.472 | Is this a typo or what ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Mar 12 1992 19:23 | 9 |
| <<< Note 33.471 by NSDC::SIMPSON >>>
As Untied have to go to Loftus Road, let's call it 2 games in hand - OK?!
.....
Yes, we all know thet they will fall apart later on ;-)
jb.
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33.474 | A few more go. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Mar 13 1992 13:30 | 14 |
33.475 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Fri Mar 13 1992 14:31 | 6 |
| re -.1
>> and Leeds have got someone from Leicester on a months load
>> (name forgotten).
Ally Maughlin - a 31 year old Midfielder
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33.476 | No full backs ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Mar 13 1992 17:30 | 10 |
| Ally Mauchlin looks set to make his Leeds debut tomorrow vs the
Wombles, Sterland has had a reoccurence of his leg injury, and Mauchlin
will take preference over Newsome, whose inexperience showed a little
on Wednesday. Wallace looks set to return, Dorogo is still unfit. Whyte
will miss the games at the Arse and West Ham at Elland Road. Let's hope
Wilko can get McClelland back soon !
I hope the Blades do us a favour tomorrow.
jb.
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33.477 | Will be fit in June | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | | Fri Mar 13 1992 19:33 | 3 |
33.478 | Ou est Eric - Eric Cantona ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Mar 13 1992 19:36 | 7 |
| M.Cantona will be on the bench to start off with. He is popular with
the Leeds fans, and he is starting to make an impact. Leeds are not
playing too well at the moment, hopefully this will change tomorrow. It
remains to be seen whwther he will stay on with Leedsa, I think / hope
he will, he is a useful man to have in the squad.
jb.
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33.479 | come on leedsa | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Ian Hawley, South UK VMS support | Fri Mar 13 1992 19:38 | 6 |
|
jb,
good luck to Leeds tomorrow.
if Man Utd go to the top with 3 games in hand, it could all be over.
Ian.
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33.480 | we're all going to Hampden | KURMA::CPATRICK | Does the name Quazimodo ring a bell | Fri Mar 13 1992 19:52 | 12 |
| re.474.
JB
In reply to your comment about the Scotish league being equivalant
to the bottom of the 1st/top 2nd division,I beleive that
Celtic,Rangers,Hearts and Aberdeen would all be able to hold there
own against most of the English 1st division clubs,as did Celtic
against the great (and I use the word great loosly) Leeds team of the
70's.
SQF Jambo
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33.481 | Scots fitba | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Mar 13 1992 21:12 | 7 |
| re -1
I used the term 'overall' deliberatley, the Scots League does have a
handful of teams that would push Leeds, Man U, Liverpool, The Arse, but
there are a lot of others that wouldn't.
jb.
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33.482 | top again!! | MACNAS::MHASSETT | | Sat Mar 14 1992 16:33 | 2 |
| Mancs to regain top spot on goal difference as I predict that Leeds
will only draw 0-0 and the Mancs to win 2-0!!!
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33.483 | Re:: -.1 back in your box please. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Sat Mar 14 1992 21:32 | 11 |
| Leeds 5-1 Wimbledon
Chapman 3 who cares
Wallace
Cantona
Keeping the pressure on just about. MUFC were might lucky against a poor Sheff
Utd team. Keep on winning. We are still on top and at least Europe here we
come.
James.
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33.484 | Leeds - Villa from Mark Smith. Bit late but needed permission. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Sat Mar 14 1992 21:35 | 102 |
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From: M.H.Smith@newcastle.ac.uk (Mark Smith)
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Subject: Leeds match report
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Leeds 0 Aston Villa 0
att: 29,000 ish
Leeds missed their chance to regain the lead of the first division
last night but played better, in my opinion, than they had for quite a while.
There is wierd, nervousness around Elland road, just as I understand
as at Old Trafford. Although the crowd were really getting behind the team
for the majority of match ( one of the noisest games in recent times - but night
games always help the atmosphere ) there were a few periods when only the villa
fans could be heard singing ( a bloody monotonous one too ) as everyone else
was just too nervous and aprehensive to shout. These periods soon dissolved
however and the climax to the game was helped by magnificant backing by the fans
Some may think all this talk about crowd support at Old Trafford and at
Elland Road are irrelevant. Wilikinson obviously does not as in his talks to the crowd before each home match he has regularly pleaded for the fans to get
behind the team whether playing Luton or Man. Utd. I believe the first team to
get rid of its nervousness, and this will be helped by the fans getting behind
the team always ( even if they are nervous !) will win the Championship and
probably run away with it.
Anyway, on with the match report:-
The game started frantically as always with the only real chance
coming from a Stachen free kick from 30 yrds which brought a good save from
the recalled Spink. Then, `unlucky Leeds' had another bad piece of luck which
was reminiscent of those which plagued them during the Glory years. Mel Sterland
and Chris Fairclough clashed heads and Sterland was left on the floor. He was
taken off the pitch for stitches, Wilko as the game was only 5 mins old
decided not to bring on a sub and switched Whitlow to right back and
brought Speed to left back. The troubles were not over as 5 miutes later
the referee ordered Fairclough off the pitch as he was also bleeding.
So Leeds had nine men with Whitlow switching to full back and Batty filling
the right back position (!!!!).
Fairclough came back after five minutes and Sterland later after 15minutes
off the field. Leeds didn't panic whilst they were short and played sensible
possesion football. Villa didn't have a clean cut chance but quite
understanndably neither did Leeds. So after effectively losing 15 minutes
play Leeds were temporaily back to normal.
In the remainder of the half there were chances for both teams. Agana
should have buried a chance as should Regis at the other end. The referee made
a few ridiculous decisions including not sending off Teale. Sterland (I think)
has made a clean break and was running to the edge of the Villa box with a free
run to goal when he was brought to the ground by Teale. It was the most
obvious `professional foul' I'd seen but only resulted in a yellow card.
Dalian Atkinson was by far and away the best Villa player and hit the target
after a good run, but it was given (rightly) offside. Fairclough was still in
trouble after his clash with Sterland and had to be substituted by McLleland
(who was recalled from Notts County on loan after only a few days).
In the second half, Leeds started to get dominance in midfield and
at some stages it looked as if Villa were playing for the draw. Villa
did have quite a few chances on the break however and Lukic made one excellent
one-on-one save from Atkinson near the end. Leeds however had long period
in and around the penalty box which resulted in about the 65th minute with
a penalty for hand ball. I was obstructed (by a big fat bloke) from a good
view so I can't comment on this descision! However this was irrelevant as
Strach took one of the worst penalties I've seen and Spink had not much more
to do than bend down and gather it. Obvious nerves.
When Cantona came on for the dissapointing Agana the reception was amazing,
(`oh-ah-Cantona' fits quite well don't you think) and his performance was
well worth the reception. The Leeds team are beginning to realise that he
is not (despite his size) a target man and that the ball should be played
to his feet. It was the first time I'd seen him live and I was very impressed.
I think he will do well (and he will try his hardest with the competition
for strikers which is present at the club at the moment).
The game ended with about 15 minutes of continuous bobardment of the Villa
goal with corner after corner and cross after cross comming for Stachen
and Sterland respectively. Cantona had some good shots on goal and had
an appeal for a penalty (which looked good) turned down. The ball was
cleared off the line numerous times and everything seemed to happen except
the ball getting in the net.
So it ended 0-0 and Leeds missed the chance to go top.
However I think they have another two matches before Man. Utd. play again
(Spurs, and QPR, away) and if we can lose our nerves (both supporters and
players) and get the points I'm sure Fergie will be rather more than concerned.
Cheers,
Tony Dorigo.
(m.h.smith@dur.uk.ac)
P.S Just because I haven't slagged of the Mancies in this article it doesn't
mean I don't hate the Scum. ( I feel better now !!)
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33.485 | Triple Whammy Chappy Welts Wombles | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 16 1992 14:18 | 38 |
| Leeds 5 Wombles 1
Chapman got his 2nd hat-trick of the season against a reasonable
Wombles side that were made to look 3rd rate by a Leeds side smarting
after their thrashing at QPR on Wednesday. The Wombles almost took an
earl lead with Lukic dropping a cross that moved around in the swirling
windy conditions (there was also snow, hail, sleet, rain and bright
sunlight to contend with, the only thing missing was fog, the thunder
was provided by the Kop). Leeds were 2-0 up thanks to 2 Chapman goals,
and 3 up thanks to Wallace, given a long time to control and shoot.
Whan Chapman scored his first, the good news came from Bramall Lane
that the Mancs were losing. Strachan didn't come out for the 2nd half,
he was replaced by Shutt, and McAllister ran the show very well. He
always plays well when Strachan isn't there, Rangers keep off !
Wimbledon came back , scored, and they were making Leeds look edgy, but
Cantona capitalised on a mistake by a Womble, and made it 4-1 -
Pandemonium !!!!! Radio 5 then said the Mancs had equalised. Chapman
made it 5-1 after a good Shutt cross, anf then the Mancs go a winner,
this took the gloss ofthe performance (especially as Schmiecal should
have been sent off for cheating, and the Mancs got an offside goal).
Whyte is out for the trip to the Arse on Sunday, the Mancs play away at
Forest and at home to the Wombles before we play, so 2 draws (or better
still 2 defeats) are needed. The Mancs have to play Forest 3 times in
the next 5 weeks, they can have a win, a draw and a defeat, as long as
the win isn't in the league !
Wilko is in London today on his disrepute charge for alleged comments
made to the ref following the diving incident at Hillsborough in
January, Dorigo and Elton Welsby the TV man are appearing for him -
Wilko said he was f'iing and blinding at Dorigo (as befits his normal
behaviour).
Come on Forest !
Come on Wombles !
jb.
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33.486 | | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Mon Mar 16 1992 17:19 | 8 |
|
JB
How many goals has the Chapman/Wallace partnership scored?
S
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33.487 | Cantona | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Mon Mar 16 1992 17:42 | 8 |
|
Did Cantona play as left back, on Saturday?
He had the number 3 shirt on and I couldn't see whitlow's name in the
team.
S
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33.488 | -1, -2 | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 16 1992 18:45 | 9 |
| Wallace and Chappo have scored close on 40 goals between them in all
competitions (from memory, I don't have the exact details to hand).
Cantona did play as No 3, but he wasn't left back - Speed and Newsome
played as the full backs, Sterland, Dorigo and Whitlow are all injured.
Dorigo should be OK for the Arse trip, Sterland and Whitlow will need
operations at the end of the season, they will struggle by till then.
jb.
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33.489 | Wilko 'Not Guilty' | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Mar 17 1992 15:58 | 5 |
| Wilko had the case against him 'Not Proven' - ie he's got off the
alleged swearing at the linesman incident. Instaead, he f's and blinds
at his players throughout the match.
jb.
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33.490 | Chapman-Wallace = 29 goals this season | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Mar 17 1992 21:25 | 6 |
| As far as my figures go the Chapman-Wallace combination have scored 29 goals in
all competitions including 23 in the league this season.
Leeds have 15 players who have scored this season already, come on Lukic!
James.
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33.491 | Manc fan joins Leeds ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Mar 19 1992 14:26 | 9 |
| A 15 year old named after the entire 1976 Manc squad that won the FA
Cup that year has signed associate forms for Leeds. He and his dad are
Manc fans, but he is pleased to be associated with Leeds, the League
Leaders (thanks Cloughie).
The Arse Sunday, not easy, at least a draw is needed, but a win would
be sooo much better.
jb.
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33.492 | greenhoff greenhoff? | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Ian Hawley, South UK VMS support | Thu Mar 19 1992 16:32 | 4 |
|
so whats his full name then jb?
Ian.
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33.493 | Dorigo back / Mancs lose :-) | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Mar 19 1992 17:57 | 20 |
| The Manc name is so long I can't remember it, I'll see if it's in the
EP (Monday's).
Dorigo should play vs the Arse, as should Sterland. Probable back 4 is
Sterland, Fairclough, Newsome and Dorigo, midfield Strachan, Batty,
McAllister and Speed, up front Wallace and Chapman, with Cantona and
(possibly) Whitlow on the bench, or Wilko could go for attack. The
Mancs losing last night :-) made the QPR debacle a little more
bearable, the Wombles will present them with tougher opposition than
they did last week at Elland Rd, a draw (or better still a loss) will
put the Mancs 1 or 2 points behind, but with only 1 game in hand. A win
at Arsenal will then put Leeds 4 or 5 points clear (cont P. 94)....
We'll wait and see. Leeds only have 1 more midweek fixture, on Easter
Tuesday vs Coventry, all other games are Saturdays, 1 a week, so there
is time for rest and recovery between games. The Mancs can then have
all the pressure (what happens if the Rum Cup final ends in a draw aet
?)
jb.
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33.494 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Thu Mar 19 1992 17:59 | 7 |
33.495 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Meals on Wheels of Steel | Thu Mar 19 1992 18:05 | 5 |
| Yes, 1977 was the year the Mancs done it, fluking their way past
Liverpool at Wembley. As for the parents of this poor unfortunate
lad, obviously a couple of basket cases.
|
33.496 | | YUPPY::MCCABE | Mike | Fri Mar 20 1992 13:21 | 8 |
| >>As for the parents of this poor unfortunate lad, obviously a
>>couple of basket cases.
Aw com'on Barry Margaret Hilda Thatcher O'Hagan aren't you being a bit
harsh there?
Mike M
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33.497 | Campaign '92 | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Meals on Wheels of Steel | Fri Mar 20 1992 16:19 | 9 |
| Mike,
Don't know where the Thatcher tag comes from but I do know that
The Milk Snatcher stole my bottle as a kid. Some wounds never
heal.
barry.
p.s. she was also my MP (Finchley) for a verrrry long time.
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33.498 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Fri Mar 20 1992 17:26 | 21 |
|
Can you help out this lady directly ?
JN.
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Can anyone settle this? Does Leeds United have a nickname - ie the same
as Sheffield Wednesday is known as the owls?
Thanks ;-)
Karen
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33.499 | Peacocks.......I'm sure. | KIRKTN::JSALLY | ha ha ha ha got you | Fri Mar 20 1992 17:59 | 1 |
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33.500 | nickers | MINDER::MACDONALDI | MUFC ECWC Champions | Fri Mar 20 1992 18:06 | 3 |
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nickname - The Yorky Puds
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33.501 | no. 500 !! shock, horror... | TRUCKS::SANT | This could be your lucky day... | Fri Mar 20 1992 18:06 | 2 |
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Yup. -1 has it.
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33.502 | | TRUCKS::SANT | This could be your lucky day... | Fri Mar 20 1992 18:07 | 2 |
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CRANG!!! Note collision 8-)
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33.503 | leeds | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Abandon shop,this is not a daffodil | Fri Mar 20 1992 18:07 | 9 |
|
re. 'yorkie puds'
thats not what the Barnsley fans call them.
:-)
Ian.
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33.504 | Peacocks it is. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Mar 20 1992 18:40 | 10 |
| Leeds United are the Peacocks.
Barnsley are known as the Tykes, Manchester United as <censored>
Manchester United could also be called the 'Sergeant Peppers' because
this famous LP came out in the same year as they last won a League
Title (1967, 25 (TWENTY FIVE) years ago, quite possibly before some of
the noters in this conference were born.
jb.
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33.505 | 8-) | TRUCKS::SANT | This could be your lucky day... | Fri Mar 20 1992 21:25 | 4 |
|
Careful, jb, we'll be mistaking you for ...shhhhh..you know who..
Andy.
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33.506 | All square at Highbury | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 23 1992 13:28 | 22 |
| Arse 1 Leeds 1
A dour 1st jhalf, both teams cancelling each other out - Leeds always
seem to play teams whwn they are in form, QPr, Wombles and now the
Arse. Chapman put Leeds up on 71, after Winterburn was out of position
- he was complaining in a feeble manner to the ref (whingeing), Wallace
got the ball, crossed to Chapman who made no mistake, 1-0. Cantona
forced Seaman into making a very good save, Lukic also saved well, but
the Arse forwards weren't too good at getting the ball near the goal.
The Arse equaliser was a good individual goal from Merson, a draw was
about the right result, although a win would have put more pressure on
a visibly wobbling man U team, they only scraped a 0-0 vs the Wombles,
who had been thrashed 5-1 at Elland Rd last Saturday.
Leeds are still 2 points clear of the Mancs, but they have 2 games in
hand, on of which must be won - the Leeds goal difference is superior
to that of the Mancs, and Leeds don't have to play on a cabbage patch
every alternate week. Next week sees No-hope West Ham at Elland Road (3
points there) and the Mancs must travel to Loftus Road where they will
be fortunate to get a point, they will probably lose.
jb.
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33.507 | The bookies seem to know ;-) | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Mon Mar 23 1992 14:46 | 13 |
| Odds for the league
MUFC 4/9
Leeds 7/4.
Good odds if you are a betting man with MUFC getting only 10 points in the last
7 games.
It looks like it will be the team that will lose the championship rather than
win it at this stage of the season.
James.
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33.508 | A very close call | KERNEL::MORIARTY | | Mon Mar 23 1992 14:59 | 4 |
| Did anyone think there was a question of off-side about the Leeds
goal??
KEvin
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33.509 | ... | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Abandon shop,this is not a daffodil | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:01 | 12 |
| > Odds for the league
> MUFC 4/9
> Leeds 7/4.
ill have a fiver on Luton, what odds are they?
:-)
Ian.
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33.510 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:07 | 7 |
|
RE:- Leeds goal.
Chapman was not in an offside position when the ball was played. The
ball coming in took a deflection off an Arsenal player.
JN.
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33.511 | Unease in the Manc Camp ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:10 | 12 |
| re .508 and other Manc complainants :-
The ref waved play on, Winterburn should have stuck to his task.
Chapman was not offside when the ball was played, it also took a
deflection off an Arse player.
The Mancs were VERY fortunate last week to have been playing
with a goalkeeper for a lot of the game.
jb.
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33.512 | Defenders should defend | KERNEL::MORIARTY | | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:14 | 10 |
| Sorry JN just to understand what you are saying...Do you mean that
Chapman was not in an offside position because the ball came off an
Arsenal defender Or that Chapman was simply not in an offside
position???
I thought that when Wallace actually hit the cross,Chapman was
marginally off BUT it was very very close.
Still,about the right result....Both teams were very ordinary with
Leeds probably the more creative.
I hope Winterburn gets severely slated by GG for that incident
before the goal.
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33.513 | Err - whats it all mean ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:15 | 4 |
| 4/9 and 7/4 - err, not being totally au fait with the comings and
goings of Turf Accountancy - which is the favourite ?
jb.
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33.514 | | COMICS::WATTERSON | As happy as a pig in sh | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:24 | 8 |
|
4/9 - The Mancs - you win 4 quid for every 9 quid bet.
7/4 - Leeds - you win 7 quid for every 4 quid bet.
So the Mancs are still the favourites.
paul
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33.515 | | PEKING::COSSEYN | | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:25 | 5 |
|
The Leeds goal should have disallowed for a deliberate drop kick
on Winterburn from Batty.
Neil.
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33.516 | John de Wolf | JGODCL::SHERLOCK | We are Leeds | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:35 | 7 |
| jb. On Dutch T.V. last night there was an interview with Feyenoord's
defender John de Wolf, apparently Wilko who watched Spurs v Feyenoord
was impressed with him. Rumour has it that Leeds are showing interest,
heard anything about it ?
P.S. could you let me know the remaining home fixtures...I'm planning
a week's holiday in the near future and would like to go to a game.
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33.517 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:38 | 5 |
|
You're right Neil. I think we'd all forgotten about that. Winterburn
got up and started screaming at the ref but play continued.
JN.
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33.518 | Batty could be in trouble...... | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Mon Mar 23 1992 17:36 | 18 |
| If what happened to Saunders v Bristol City has anything to go by, then Batty
could find himself in some trouble with the F.A. over his "challenge" yesterday.
It was a blatant attempt at getting the player, not the ball.
Not a classic match. Both sides canelled each other out well, and a draw was a
fair result. It was the first time I'd seen more than just clips of Cantona, and
he looks like he could be a great buy. He looked a little out of it at times,
but his poke in the first half was inspired, and took a great save from Seaman.
On the other side, Merson had a great game. His long range shot in the 1st was
brilliant, and unlucky not to go in, and the goal was a great piece of
individual play.
Should still be on top this time next week, hopefully by 5 points, but more
probably 4.
Al
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33.519 | Answers / Family Club Awards | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 23 1992 17:58 | 25 |
| I haven't heard anything about De Wolf.
Remaining home games :-
Sat 28 Mar, West Ham
Sat 11 Apr, Chelsea
Tue 21 Apr, Coventry
Sat 2 May, Norwich
Away :-
Sat 4 Apr, Man City
Sat 18 Apr, Liverpool
Sun 26 Apr, Sheffield Utd
err winning all of them will do nicely !
Leeds United have been chosen as one of the 2 candidates for Div 1 in
the Jewson/People awards - Villa are the other - these awards are to
recognise the way in which football clubs provide for and treat their
fans, especially families, and how much involvement they have with the
local community. Leeds have made great strides in the past few years as
they try to throw off the 'bad boy' image - so far it has succeeded.
jb.
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33.520 | Article in the Irish times today about Leeds. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Mon Mar 23 1992 19:02 | 16 |
33.521 | Leeds Fan Goes to Old Trafford | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Mon Mar 23 1992 19:11 | 11 |
33.522 | Good Idea | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 23 1992 19:14 | 10 |
| James,
The Chelsea game is on Sat 11th April !
It would be nice to meet up with other noters, drop me a mail
(bahtat::blythe, jon blythe @lzo, or my DTN is 7845-2290). I'll be away
all week beginning the 6th, 4 days in Soton and 1 day off getting over
the election night 'let's stare at the TV'.
jb.
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33.523 | The Run-in - Leeds' psychological advantage | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 23 1992 19:19 | 41 |
|
The run-in :-
Mancs' Fixtures Leeds' Fixtures Manc Manc
Defecit games
in pts in
hand
March 28th Q.P.R. (Away) d West Ham (home) w 4 2
March 31th Norwich City (Away) w 1 1
April 4th Mancheter C (away) w 4 2
April 7th Man City (Home) d 3 1
April 11th Chelsea (home) w 6 2
April 16th Southampton (Home) w 3 1
April 18th Luton Town (Away) w Liverpool (away) d 1 1
April 20th Notts Forest (Home) d 0 0
April 21st Coventry (home) w 3 1
April 25th Liverpool (Away) l 3 0
April 26th Sheffield Utd (away) w 6 1
West Ham United (Away) w 3 0
May 2nd Tottenham (Home) w Norwich (home) w 3 0
It could be the title goes to Elland Road on Sunday 26th April, Leeds will be
6 points ahead of the Mancs, they will have 2 games to play, but they will
have a poorer goal difference.
jb.
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33.524 | What Changed Your Mind | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Mon Mar 23 1992 21:13 | 17 |
33.525 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Tue Mar 24 1992 12:17 | 6 |
| re last
ALso Jon, you go on about United not doing very well at the moment. If
Leeds are that bloody good, they'd be out of sight by now. Leeds have
the jitters just like United, but Leeds are fast running out of games
to for them to get a conclusive and moral destroying advantage.
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33.526 | It's changed. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Mar 24 1992 13:59 | 11 |
| 'A week is a long time in politics', so a month is 4 times longer. As
for the conclusive advantage, maybe this will be a little clearer at
4.45 on Saturday afternoon, or it will be the same as it is now. This
one will run and run ...
Simon, it is Morale rather than moral :-)
Brian - rather than changing my mind I have decided to reappraise the
situation with reference to changing parameters.
jb.
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33.527 | Don't let the grass grow under your feet!!!! | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Tue Mar 24 1992 16:30 | 9 |
|
We may well have the jitters but not to the extent that we feel
the need to withold our players from doing international duty!!!!
Paul....
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33.528 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Wed Mar 25 1992 19:26 | 4 |
| re .527
And should any of them could back injured, that would wipe any smug
expression of your face.
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33.529 | Roving reporter at Arsenal, Sunday. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Wed Mar 25 1992 20:52 | 65 |
| Article 12962 of rec.sport.soccer:
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From: tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Bobby Gillespie's Hair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Arsenal-Leeds : Eye-Witness
Message-ID: <1992Mar23.142856.11704@tcom.stc.co.uk>
Date: 23 Mar 92 14:28:56 GMT
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The view from the Clock End at Highbury was of a low quality game, due
mainly to Arsenal's spoiling tactics, congesting the midfield and relying
mostly on artillery bombardments from Semen (surely he must be trying for
the golden boot this season). There was none of the style of the televised
game they played at Notts Forest earlier this season. They were grimly
sticking out for a nil nil draw. There was some threat from Wright, but
Whyte effectively cancelled him out.
The Leeds support was strangely muted. The poor football on view, added to
the inability of Leeds to pep things up a bit seemed to cast gloom. Even
Eric couldn't do much in the congestion. Batty clogged several Arsenal
players. Strangely enough Chapman has started to play the ball a bit
lately, it must be Canto's influence. He lost the ball then tackled it
back at one point, then later on set up what could have been the crucial
move of the match.
He scored something like 20 minutes from full time after Canto had split
the Arsenal defence apart with a superb pass right down the middle.
Shortly afterwards the Arse equalised after continual pressure. BASTARDS.
However Chapman could have won the game for us, for during this last few
minutes he won the ball just on the edge of the area and was in the middle of
an extremely deft turn when he was brought down. The referee gave a free
kick and McAllister produced a mighty shot which somehow Semen managed
to hold.
Rodney Wallace seems to have improved his passing a bit. McAllister was
in excellent form. Strachan seemed low and even blew a corner. He did bring
some cheer when he started haggling with the ref over where EXACTLY the
free kick was to be taken.
Arsenal have adopted a negative style of football which strangely enough
has not dampened the enthusiasm of the gooners, who although somewhat
down (27000 odd) on last season still produced an impressive roar
when they got their goal. They seemed to react to the game much as fans
would at Elland Road, with passion, and in this they differ greatly
from their Tottenham rivals, who closely resemble a graveyard. Mind you
after we scored the Clock end gooners got a bit threatening (ooh-er!).
They didn't like our repeated chant in high-pitched voices of "red army".
As for the arguments about seating killing atmosphere, I can report that
we terrace types were outsung by the smaller number of seated Leeds fans
to our left. Mind you we had a good old surge when the ball went
in.
Overall I would say a draw was fair though we could have done with the
points. I could see Chris Fairclough had decided they were on schedule
the way he was timewasting near the end with Lukic (cheers lads).
Tim
--
"I'd slap him over the head with a cushion | T. Kennedy <tim@tcom.stc.co.uk>
until I'd knocked some sense into him" | Dept 30751 NME, BNR Europe,
-Sir Geoff Boycott on how he'd deal| Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB.
with the current England Cricket manager. | LUFC, Yorkshire's No. 1.
|
33.530 | The North Bank view (probably my last from there:-( | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Wed Mar 25 1992 21:09 | 7 |
| RE .529
An amusing if extremely biased report. Naturally the view from the
North Bank was slightly different ;-) No mention there of Batty trying
to kick a hole in Winterburn's chest and Nige's daft reaction which led
directly to the Leeds goal. Not a great game but I've seen worse and
the draw was a fair result.
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33.531 | CATS GOT IT'S CLAWS OUT!! | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Thu Mar 26 1992 14:05 | 7 |
|
Re .528 MEEEOOOOWWWWW !!!!!!
Paul....
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33.532 | Hammmers to be Hammered ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Mar 26 1992 19:02 | 23 |
| Hodge played in a reserve game last night, and he should be available
for selection on Saturday. Peter Haddock also played a part of the
game, he's well on the mend.
Strachan looked tired last night, I hope he is OK for Saturday.
McAllister came on as sub, and made a better impression than some of
his team-mates. There is still some speculation of a move to Rangers
for around 3 million - I hope not, Strachan can't go on forever, and
McAllister plays well when he is running the show rather than Strachan.
Dorigo played for some of the game vs the Czechs. Batty was Captain of
the 'B'team on Tuesday night, and had a good game.
West 'am on Saturday, they are bottom and desparate, so they will be a
handful, a couple of early goals will kill them off, otherwise who
knows - there will be a noisy crowd there willing Leeds onward. I
expect 3 points, but it may be a hard-fought 3 points. The Mancs have
still got to play them, at Upton Park. They will either already be
down, or even more desparate by then. I expect the Mancs to get at best
a draw at QPR, they have a poor home record, but are playing well at
the moment.
jb.
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33.533 | Peter Haddock? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Mar 27 1992 13:43 | 6 |
| JB,
What happend to Peter Haddock as he was shaping up to be a very good player
last season?
James.
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33.534 | Xfers / team news | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Mar 27 1992 14:32 | 30 |
33.535 | VDrawing Blanks. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 30 1992 14:20 | 20 |
| Leeds 0 West Ham 0
A glaring miss by Chapman meant we didn't get 3 points - at this rate,
we'll give the Mancs the title, but at least they only drew 0-0, and
luckily at that ! West Ham played like West Ham - one touch football
that was good to watch, but they didn't trouble Lukic over much.
Miklosko in the West Ham goal had a lot more to do and had a fine game.
The Leeds defence looked a bit at sea at times, Dorigo and Speed were
the stand in full backs, and they swapped over at half time. Newsome
was the stand in centre back, and his inexperience showed at times.
Leeds laid siege to the West Ham goal and should have sewn it up, but
they didn't, instad the Mancs were left with a chance to overtake us
which they will do if they win at Norwich, not a happy hunting ground
for them.
Sterland is out for the rest of the season, he has an operation
tomorrow on his injured ankle. Agana is back at Notts County, Mauchlen
is on a 2nd month's loan from Leicester.
jb.
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33.536 | Come on you Canaries. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Mar 31 1992 17:22 | 8 |
| Sterland may not be as badly injured as once thought, he goes into
hospital for an exploratory operation today, he could be back for the
last 2 games of the season.
All this title tittle tattle is gatting to me, perhaps I should follow
a mid-table team, Norwich for example ;-)
jb.
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33.537 | Norwich don't do us any favours | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Apr 01 1992 14:38 | 12 |
| Back down to 2nd, albeit temporarily, looks like a good win for the
Mancs last night. It isn't over yet, the Mancs have got their hectic
spell to come. the bookies make the Mancs favourites, but it will be
very close, maybe goal difference could be the 'differentiator'.
The game at Maine Rd kicks off at 2pm on Saturday, owing to the fact
there is a Muslim Festival in Moss Side. I'll be listening to the
radio! The Mancs have a Saturday off, so we could go 2 points clear
(with the 2 games in hand for the Mancs) if we beat the rapidly fading
Blues.
jb.
|
33.538 | Hodge / Nostalgia | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Apr 03 1992 14:18 | 14 |
| Hodge scored 2 on Wed night as Leeds Reserves beat Sheff Utd reserves
3-2, he is pressing for a place in the starting line up vs Man City
tomorrow. Haddock also played 90 minutes, he came through Ok, althought
he said he was 'a little tird'. He won't get a look in this season, but
should be available again for next season.
jb.
ps. I was reading a supplement to the April issue of 'Steam Railway'
yesterday, it is a well known fact that Steam locomotives were regulary
working main line trains between Waterloo and Bournemouth after
Manchester United last won the league.
cunno_in_disguise.
|
33.539 | Self-depracation | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Fri Apr 03 1992 14:29 | 8 |
33.540 | when youve won it as many times as us you can get excited | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | ooh look! its Rob Jones!!! | Fri Apr 03 1992 14:44 | 8 |
|
re. -2
I am a little too young to remember when LEEDS last won the title too.
i wasnt even at nursery school at the time.
Ian.
|
33.541 | Waterloo Sunset | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Apr 03 1992 14:48 | 7 |
| re 'a little tird' :-
Thr is a problm with this kyboard - it kps forgtting the lettr ''
jb.
|
33.542 | H H H H H 8-) | TRUCKS::SANT | another day in paradise? | Fri Apr 03 1992 14:51 | 4 |
|
Don't try and fix it, jb....I like it the way it is!! 8-)
Andy.
|
33.543 | Off the Leeds next week | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Apr 03 1992 17:08 | 7 |
| I will be in Leeds for the game versus Chelsea and will be in the west stand. I
am wondering whether any other DEC/LEEDS supporters would like to share a drink
or something on the morning or evening of the game. I have no idea where I am
going except that I will be in the ground around 11:00 to look around. Anybody
out there going?
James.
|
33.544 | Get your Zimmerframes out!!! | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Fri Apr 03 1992 18:43 | 30 |
|
James,
I will be there with another DEC person for that game,
we normally go to an Irish owned pub called the Imperial ('bout
10 mins from ground) ,and get there between 12-1.00 o'clock,
could make it sooner if you like??.
The Peacock tends to get overcrowded but we could meet there if you
prefer.
If you would like directions or to meet up then send me a mail
WELSWS::CADD, CADD@WLO
That is the weekend of my 30th birthday so should be a good day!!!!!
Off to Maine road tomorrow as my parents live in Manchester. The
game is kicking off at 14:00 i believe because of a Muslim festival in
Moss side.A win would keep the championship more exciting, I believe we
can accept no less than a win to stay in contention.
Whyte is back in the side and Speed is dropping back to cover for
Mel Sterland who is still out. Cantona should be in the starting line
up again. Hodge and Newsome I belive will be the subs.
Paul..
|
33.545 | Where is it ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Apr 03 1992 18:48 | 5 |
| Paul,
Where's the Imperial ?
jb.
|
33.546 | it's there or there about's | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Fri Apr 03 1992 19:19 | 7 |
|
Jon ,
It is in Cemetary Rd up a the hill on the left.
p.c.
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33.547 | The wrong side of a 4-0 | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Apr 06 1992 13:15 | 18 |
| Crap Mancs 4 Leeds 0
Oh sh*t - is this the end of the title hopes ? All we can do now is to
hope the mancs blow up / lose a couple / draw more and we win. I was
at the Worth Valley Railway on Saturday, so I listened to part of the
commentary on Radio Leeds - sitting in the Buffet Car supping Timothy
Taylor's pop - and getting more morbid and depressed as the afternoon
wore on. Leeds seemed to have the play in the 1st half, but couldn't
put the ball away, and then they gave up. I hope Man City play the same
on Tuesday night, they can still make Europe as they play Man U and
Sheff Wed on Saturday, so they still have something to play for. Leeds
better start getting results, they must make 2nd place at least safe,
Sheff Wed are 6 points behind with 1 game in hand.
Things might change on Tuesday night, City could win etc etc etc, then
the Mancs match marathon starts.
jb.
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33.548 | Mumble Mumble. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Apr 06 1992 17:44 | 11 |
| Ray Wallace is on his way back from Swansea, there has been an admin
cock up wrt his registration. There were no injuries on Saturday (only
to people's pride!), so the same 11 should start against Chelsea, and
give 'em a good hiding, just like their well-known Prime Ministerial
fan gets on Thursday.
Come on you Blues etc etc.
When is the replay date for the Rum Cup Final ?
jb.
|
33.549 | Players of the Year Mk 1 | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Apr 07 1992 13:15 | 8 |
| David Batty was voted the Executive Club player of the season, Tony
Dorigo was a close 2nd. The Executive Club is mainly made up of media
types, ex-players, has-beens and never-weres, but who have money.
All eyes will be on Manchester tonight (cont P.94)
jb.
|
33.550 | Makita Teams | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Apr 07 1992 17:30 | 5 |
| The Makita Tournamant will be played at Elland Road on 1/2 August.
Teams involved are Leeds United, Nottingham Forest, Sampdoria and Vfb
Stuttgart.
jb.
|
33.551 | Eric - decision looms | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Apr 09 1992 18:46 | 7 |
| Wilko must decide whether to keep Eric Cantona by the 16th of April. A
fee in the order of 1 million will be required by Nimes, and there are
also Eric's personal terms to sort out. Wilko is said to be showing an
interest in Brian Deane again, it could be that Eric Cantona goed back
to France and Deane joins Leeds, or they both do !
jb.
|
33.552 | Makita | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Apr 09 1992 19:42 | 13 |
| Makita Draw :-
Forest vs Sampdoria 12.30pm Sat 1 Aug
Leeds vs Stuttgart 3pm Sat 1 Aug
3rd/4th play off 12.30 pm Sun 2 Aug
final 3 pm Sun 2 Aug
Should be a good curtain raiser to the new season, English League
Champions, German League Champions, European Champions and ZDS and R
Cup Holders ! ;-)
jb.
|
33.553 | Ho Hum | MINDER::MACDONALDI | MUFC ECWC Champions | Thu Apr 09 1992 20:30 | 7 |
| Re -last
Surely you jest %^)
It could turn out to be a tournament of 'runners up' :) (or losers)
mac
|
33.554 | RESULTS | SUBURB::WAITEG | Only the man who says no is free | Thu Apr 09 1992 21:06 | 1 |
| Can someone post me all the results.
|
33.555 | .XBM of Leeds United logo with the rose and leeds' name. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Apr 10 1992 15:31 | 43 |
| #define LEEDS_LOGO_width 59
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33.556 | Just what I always wanted! | RIGHTO::HAIGH | Britons. The ultimate masochists. | Fri Apr 10 1992 16:41 | 0 |
33.557 | How to print it out or use it as an ICON on your workstation | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Fri Apr 10 1992 17:32 | 34 |
| A few people have got onto me as to how to print it the logo out or use how to
usefully employ it. So here's how I use it.
It is to be extracted as a text file without any of the headers naming it
LEEDS_LOGO.XBM.
If you have a graphics converter something like UTOX or XV you can translate the
image into a more suitable format for printing i.e. DDIF for DECwrite.
This image is imported into DECwrite using the link image option! the rest is up
to yourself.
Because it is a low resolution image it is more suitable for use as an ICON on
your workstation. How you do that is as following
Edit a file in your sys$login directory called DECW$MWM.DAT
and insert a line in it as following
Mwm*decw$terminal*iconImage: directory_spec[]leeds_logo.xbm
Mwm*iconImageMaximum: 60x60
Set up the file in the appropriate dir and restart your window manager. This
should work with any decterms that are created on your workstation.
Not this will only work if you have a workstation, no VT100's.
The effect is suitably impressive. Everyone on XSTACY will want one I am sure
:-).
I will make a better resolution image of the logo available some time next week
in my public directory. Stay tuned.
James.
|
33.558 | | XSTACY::KMCGRATH | Long road, patient donkey | Fri Apr 10 1992 22:12 | 7 |
| James,
Did you make this yourself?
I think the demand on xstacy for leeds logos is a bit low at the
moment, - got any others?
- Kev
|
33.559 | Meeting Minutes | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Apr 13 1992 16:34 | 52 |
| Minutes of a meeting of the Leeds United Supporters' Club (Digital
Branch) held at The Imperial, Cemetry Rd, Beeston, Leeds on Saturday
last 11the April 1992.
Present :-
James Lundon, Paul Cadd, Jon Blythe, Tim Sherlock.
Agenda :-
1.Chances vs Chelsea
2.Chances of League Title
3.Why are the Mancs useless ;-)
4.Other Noters ;-)
5.Bitter for me, Lager for Paul, Lager Shandy for Tim who was suffering
from post-Tetley's depression, and James was on Orange.
Items 1 and 2 on the Agenda were passed unanimously, Item 3 was agreed
on unanimously, unfortunately they beat a tired Forest yesterday, but
Soton and Lution will get the better of them this forthcoming week.
Item 4 was touched upon, but the person most talked about (2 sentences)
isn't doing much at the moment, and is restricting his comments. Item 5
on the agenda was repeated several times.
The meeting then was declared closed, and the delegates then wobbled off
in the direction of Elland Road.
The first half was poor, no team really getting a decdnt shot in, both
goalkeepers having an easy time of it. The 2nd half started better, but
it wasn't till 56 minutes that the deadlock was brokern, a Wallace goal
coming from a Strachan cross passed on by Chapman made it 1-0. Leeds
kept pressing, and Chapman made it 2-0 on 88, a Cantona flick was put
in via the post and rebound - scrappy, but it counted. Then came Goal
of the Season from Eric Cantona - he got the ball on the edge of the
area, flicked it on one foot and then the other and crashed it past
Beasant to make it 3-0 in injury time. Leeds went back top, by 1 point.
Great rejoicing then took place etc....
Cantona is transfwerring to Leeds on a permanent basis, the total cost
is 1 million, of which 100,000 has already been pain in loan fees.
There are no injuries to worry about, the next game is Saturday at 5.30
vs Liverpool, I think it's live on the TV in the Yorkshire area at
least, but I'll have to check that. The Mancs will have played their 2
games in hand by then, they might get a point at Luton and struggle to
win vs Soton on their beach.
The Icon is fine James.
jb.
|
33.560 | Cantona | MIACT::MASON | | Mon Apr 13 1992 17:45 | 9 |
| My first forage into the Leeds file...
Cantona could prove to be your buy of the season (as Schmeical was
ours). His goal on Saturday was stunning - a wonderful display of
individual skill and power. The game could do with more like him.
As for the next couple of weeks, may the best team win....
J
|
33.561 | Welcome | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Apr 13 1992 17:59 | 21 |
| ! <<< Note 33.560 by MIACT::MASON >>>
! -< Cantona >-
!
! My first forage into the Leeds file...
Welcome to the world of happy noting.
The Mancs have some 'easy' games coming up - Soton still not out of
relegation trouble, Luton ditto, Forest will be out for revenge, West
Ham will be down and have no pressure on them, Liverpool are Liverpool
(ie 3 points 8-| ) and Tottering Tottenham (who could be playing with
Fatso). Leeds have Liverpool, Coventry who are still not out of the
mire, Sheffield United who are on form and Norwich - nothing to play
for but pride.
"At the end of the day there'll be nowt in it"
jb.
|
33.562 | "Eee-i eee-i eee-i-O" | WELCLU::CADD | I Got a T.V., You Got a T.V. | Mon Apr 13 1992 18:02 | 21 |
|
Priceless Jon..
What do you think about Wilko putting McAllister at R/B, bit of a
strange decision.(as was the one that Strachan got when through on
goal?).
Hope you enjoyed your weekend over here James and you were happy
with the result.
The 'pool on saturday which i have managed to get a ticket for, lets
hope we can turn round the result at Anfield from last year (3-0).
anyone know if McManaman is fit? he can be a bit of a handful.
Jon send us mail if you want to meet up again sometime
Paul...
|
33.563 | You dirty ^%^%^%^%^ %^%$&^ ^$% | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Apr 13 1992 20:30 | 13 |
| re last
McAllister struggled a bit at left back, but in the 2nd half he got
forward more. The Chelsea player was lucky to stay on the field. If
Leeds had been 1 down and there was only a couple of minutes to go,
that sort of refereeing blunder could upset a lot of people. The ref had
a very poor game.
2 more home games to go, I expect the executives of Tetleys, John and
Sam Smith, Saml. Webster will be hoping for a good May Day Bank Holiday
Weekend...............
jb.
|
33.564 | Tim Kennedy comments | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Apr 14 1992 15:32 | 74 |
| Article 13965 of rec.sport.soccer:
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From: tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Tim Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Leeds News April 13
Message-ID: <1992Apr13.092629.26002@tcom.stc.co.uk>
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Leeds are still working hard to overcome the loss of Mel
Sterland Sex Machine at right back, but on Saturday again
returned to the top of division one with a 3-0 victory over
Chelsea at Elland Road.
Wallace got the first in the 56th minute, set up by a nice
move by Strach who could have tried it himself. Chapman got
the less attractive second goal in the final ten minutes and
Cantona wowed his huge personal following in the 89th minute
by receiving a cross, controlling it with his chest, knee, and
instep, beating the Chelsea defence and releasing a ferocious drive
into the far top corner of the net. He then went straight behind the
goal and kissed his shirt before the joyous multitudes.
McAllister took Zico's position for the first half but was
eventually superseded by Newsome while he partnered Speed in
midfield, substantially improving Leeds' game.
Referee Neil Midgeley astounded an already incredulous footballing
world by not sending off Chelsea defender Clarke for a blatant
foul, bringing Strach down when he was heading for goal. Midgeley
is of course reknowned for his eccentric decisions as Pat Nevin will
testify among others. Anyway Porterfield substituted Clarke straight
away and thus weakened their previously stout defence.
Cantona is to stay at Leeds which is a very popular decision. He is
the idol of the Leeds fans who haven't had a player of such class
probably since Tony Currie's wife took him back to QPR in 1978. This
is not to put down the abilities of Strach, Macca, Batts and the lads
but Big Eric is very special.
The remaining games of the season are:
Liverpool Away 19 April telly
Coventry Home 20 April telly
Sheffield Utd Away 25 April telly highlights
Norwich City Home 2 May
Man U have :
Southampton Home 16 April
Luton Away 18 April
Notts Forest(h) sorry no dates
Liverpool(a) sorry no dates
West Ham(a) sorry no dates
Spurs(h) sorry no dates
Four of these games are played in a six day period so they should
stumble with a bit of luck. West Ham and Luton are desparate to
avoid relegation (West Ham trashed Norwich 4-0 on Saturday, and
Luton's scoring record belies their actual ability as a team.)
Plus Gazza is set to play his last game for Spurs at Old Trafford...
Liverpool are bound to lose to them though.
Tim
--
In 1988 BBC Radio One listeners voted for | T. Kennedy <tim@tcom.stc.co.uk>
the alltime greatest single. Way ahead of | Dept 30730 NME, BNR Europe,
Strawberry Fields and Stairway To Heaven, | Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB.
at no. 1 was I Owe You Nothing by Bros. | LUFC, Yorkshire's No. 1.
++
James.
|
33.565 | More graphics available | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Apr 14 1992 15:41 | 14 |
| I cleaned up the logo a little and have made it available in three formats. All
these are available in
XSTACY::USERS5$:[jlundon.public]Leeds_logo.xbm ( XBM ) 396 blocks
XSTACY::USERS5$:[jlundon.public]Leeds_logo.ddif ( DDIF ) 64 blocks
XSTACY::USERS5$:[jlundon.public]Leeds_logo.gif ( GIF ) 15 blocks
All images are about 500 by 500. Large!
I will post a long match report in the next couple of days on my experiences at
Leeds. Stay tuned.
James.
|
33.566 | Liverpool game changed again | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Apr 15 1992 14:31 | 9 |
| The Liverpool game will kick off at 3pm on Saturday according to Ceefax
last night. I didn't see any reference to TV highlights in the press,
nobody seems to know !
I see Luton are doing their end of season Houdini act - 7 wins from
their last 10 home games, with any luck they will beat the Mancs on
Saturday, with Varadi scoring a hat-trick and Chris Kamara getting 1 !
jb.
|
33.567 | Match report of 11th April 1992 - Leeds-Chelsea. Very Long. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Wed Apr 15 1992 19:45 | 278 |
| Match report from the Leeds-Chelsea League
game of the 11th April 1992
----------------------------------------------
I made my way to Elland Road otherwise known
as [Mecca] on Saturday 11th April 1992 for an
important league game that would decide
whether Leeds would stay in the league
championship race or not. Leeds have had a
very good recent record over Chelsea so hopes
were high that a positive result would be
achieved.
My trip was part of a bi-yearly trip arranged
by the Leeds supporters clubs in Ireland to
Leeds. The previous trip was for the Tottenham
match last December :-(. Leeds have four
separate supporters clubs in the country
Galway, Sligo, Cork and Dublin. A total of
about 80 people were arranged to go to the
match. Some going by ship and some by plane. I
decided to go by plane! Flew into Manchester
from Galway on Friday evening and then got a
coach to Leeds. Stayed in a fairly basic B&B
near Headingley Cricket ground. If I ever goto
to see a cricket game in Leeds I will rent
out that room as it had a view not bettered
by anyone seated in the ground itself. I just
went to bed excited at the prospect of
walking on the holy ground tomorrow and seeing
my heroes in action the next day.
Up early Saturday morning and had breakfast.
This was going to be a day to remember as the
sun started to break through the clouds
leaving it a somewhat hazy morning. Got to
the ground early approx 11:00. Got a mini tour
of the Club grounds and dressingrooms.
Couldn't get into the trophy room as it was
to crammed with cups any trophies ;-0. Got a
few pictures of the ground while empty. Then,
somebody said that the players had started to
come via the players car park. Chapman was
one of the first in and was in the dressing
rooms before 11:00. All the players have to be
in before 13:00 for a Saturday game.
Went to watch a youths game in the training
ground while waiting for the players to come
in. During this time Whyte, Batty, McAllister,
Speed, Hodge and Newsome came and went. I got
my picture with all of the them. No point
really getting their autographs as they were
merely scribbles in the furore of people
trying to gain access to them. The players
were all very approachable, friendly and
chatty as long as you didn't try and knock
them down with enthusiasm. The youth team
included two Irish internationals Curtis and
Kelly. Kelly has already played first team
football this season and was star of the game
with some beautiful touches. They won the game
2-0 to go 7 points ahead in the Northern
intermediate league. Barnsley can still
overtake them but will have to win their four
games in hand to go above us. During the game
I spoke with the father of no. 6 Walters. He
spoke of the problems of making it through
the youths system and into the pro ranks. He
described the chances of his son making it in
pro football as 40-60 against, even though
Leeds have offered him another year in the
youth stream. He also stressed the importance
that the Leeds' people put on the need for
their youth players continuing their
education. This is vital as what will a player
do if he doesn't make it in football?
Howard Wilkinson came out for a few minutes
during the youth game. He seems to wear a
permanent frown. It must be a very stressful
job being a manager [Look at Sourpuss]. He
too was very cordial as I got his picture. Oh,
look at the clock it was already 12:30 and I
had forgotten that I was due to meet the
other DECies at the imperial @ 12:00. Made my
way upto the pub, a good mile from the ground
around 12:50. Didn't recognise "Ee bah gum
th's trouble at t'mill" [JB] as he was facing
away from me. Eventually he came upto the bar
and the rest is history. Paul "Essex Man"
Cadd, Tim Sherlock [secret noter] Jon and I
had an official DEC/LEEDS supporters club
meeting. Paul must qualify for some
award for faithful fans as he makes his way
up from Essex every second Saturday to see
Leeds, Leeds, Leeds. In total he has only
missed 3/4 games all season either HOME or
AWAY in all competitions. Wow some supporter!
He even loses sleep over Leeds the sign of a
real fan. Most women never understand how
important socceer is to real fans ;*).
The imperial was by no means packed as the
lads said it was during the season. Maybe the
faithful had given up hope of the league
coming to Leeds this season? Strolled down to
the ground around 14:20. The crowd was
streaming in at that stage and the day was
great for a game of football. Said good luck
to the lads and said that I would be back.
Got to my seat at the top of the west stand
near the Kop side and had a good view of the
proceedings. As for the game itself Leeds
lined out as thus
Lukic
McAllister Fairclough Whyte Dorigo
Strachan Speed Batty Hodge(Newsome)
Chapman Wallace(Cantona)
V. Jones got a great reception from the crowd
and he returned it fully. That was all we saw
of him except for a few desperate clearances
in the first half by him. The game started
very shakily for both sides. Chelsea packed
the midfield with Cascarino on his own up
front. He might as well have been selling ice
cream as he would have had more service ;-).
Leeds played very poorly with no penetration
at all from corners, free-kicks or throw ins.
Many of these so called well practiced
movements looked very amateurish with even
basic throw ins going to Chelsea players
instead of Leeds players. What was apparent
from very early on was the complete stupidity
of Referee Midgley who had to put it mildly a
horrendous game. Fortunately his decisions
went both ways, but Leeds were probably on the
receiving end of the more crucial ones.
Firstly, when Wallace broke through midway
through the first half and seemed to have
been felled in the penalty area. The Ref.
played on. He had a somewhat irritating habit
or waving his hands around a lot in a manner
not dissimilar to an American football Umpire
which caused as much confusion to the players
and the fans as anything else. There should be
a code of standard signals which would allow
the Ref. communicate his decisions as
effectively as possible to the players and
fans.
Strachan got himself booked in the first half
for talking back to the Referee. He was a bit
lucky in my book to stay on the field at all
in the second half. Wise for Chelsea was like
Rambo marauding around the field taking out
anybody he liked as long as it was behind the
Ref. back, which most times it was. The best
chant from the Kop was "what's it like to have
no home", "Leeds Leeds Leeds", "We are Leeds"
and all the usual stuff. Come half time they
were booed off the pitch and rightly so. What
a beautiful day and ruin it with this
standard of football from a club hoping to
regain top spot in the first division. Trying
to get something hot to eat at half-time was
next to impossible as the queues were very
long. I didn't like the idea of standing in a
queue for all half-time and then not get
served before the game would restart.
Wilko must have gave the Lads a good
rollicking at half-time as I swore that I
heard him shouting up in the stand at half
time. They came out in the second half with a
more unbeat attitude to the game. Chelsea's 4
million pound man Townsend showed a few
flashes but Chelsea offered little in the way
of real opposition. Leeds were playing more
direct and it soon reaped rewards with
Strachan breaking down the right wing cutting
into the penalty area and then rather than
taking his own shot cut it in to Wallace who
was in a better position Wallace then put the
ball to the left of Beasant and it was 1-0.
The relief was palpable in the crowd. After
that chance Chelsea had their best
opportunity but Wise wasted it but hitting
over the bar. We breathed again! I felt that
Leeds have been very soft once they went 1-0
up, it has happened too often going 1-0 up
and then conceding an equaliser within 10
minutes, this season. Once that threat blew
over I was certain that we were going to win.
What happened next defied the imagination.
Strachan broke away galloping from his own
half, Wallace was supporting him, with the
Chelsea defenders caught flat footed. Clarke
took Strachan out from behind as Strachan had
a clear scoring opportunity. A sending off
offence. The Ref. did his bit again by only
flashing a yellow. It was Strachan that was
nearly sent off for arguing. I cannot
understand why professional footballers push
the Ref. to a point where they could be forced
to book players for arguing over decisions he
has already made. Luckily, Leeds were already
1-0 up or else there *could* have been some
disquieting scenes if that scenario had taken
place with minutes to go and Leeds not
winning.
Still 1-0 and jittery. No great performance
but a win is a win. Had the clock stopped
since the 57th minute when we scored as time
slowed perceptibly? Then it happened, pure
bedlam. Hodge had been substituted for Newsome
and then Wilko brought on Cantona for the
last 6 minutes taking Wallace off. Cantona
was involved in the second goal with Speed
bringing the ball down the left wing. Cantona
playing it off a post and Chapman being on
hand, sorry on torso to force it in. It was a
messy goal but they all count. At that point
Chelsea folded like a house of cards. The
third, the goal we all had come to see,
scored with a minute to go was a beaut.
Cantona got the ball in from the right wing
and flicked the ball over two defenders heads
and then crashed an unstoppable ball past
Beasants left hand. The place erupted. It was
goal of the season *in our eyes anyhow*. And
it ensured that we would back on top with a
superior goal difference to the other team in
the race. If the game had gone on another 10
minutes Leeds would have scored another few
goals.
After the match the Irish supporters club made
a presentation to Jim Beglin for his upcoming
testimonial of 208 pounds. I waited around
after the match hoping to get my picture with
the players I missed before the game. I
achieved that missing only Lukic who avoided
everyone and Dorigo whom nobody saw before or
after the match. They seemed to have slipped
out a back door. All the other ran the
gauntlet of the crowd. Needless to say Cantona
got the best reception. When Strachan came
out he was also mobbed by youngsters and one
of the nippers uttered an expletive when
Strachan wouldn't sign his autograph quick
enough. Strachan stared at him and asked him
what he had said. The young fellow had
nowhere to turn and he knew it.
Visited the supporters shop afterwards. It was
well stocked but was I thought a bit pricey.
Everybody went home happy now waiting for MUFC
to make the next stumble and looking forward
to playing Liverpool at Anfield next Saturday.
The agony continues and I am beginning to
believe that the league will be probably
decided on the final day of the season when
Leeds play Norwich at home with MUFC playing
Tottenham. Who cares who they play as the
League is destined for Leeds this season with
a bit of luck.
James.
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33.568 | | MINDER::MACDONALDI | MUFC ECWC Champions | Wed Apr 15 1992 20:30 | 7 |
| re .567
An excellent report, reports like these are well worth reading,
as they are more informal and therefore interesting to read.
mac
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33.569 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | Only the man who says no is free | Wed Apr 15 1992 20:38 | 1 |
| I agree
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33.570 | Good Not ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Apr 15 1992 21:01 | 14 |
| Good report James - when is your next trip over ?
I've never been on a tour round the ground, but they are available, I
might get round to it one day.
Here's a synopsis of a Leeds match day :-
Up / Brekker / Faff about, fix this, fix that / Paper, Sandwich / Bus /
Adelphi / Walk to ground (or bus) / Programme / Bog / Jump up & down /
Bog / More jumping up and down (repeat n times) / Lift Home / Change /
Celebrate ......
jb.
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33.571 | disappointment | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Yogic flying, new olympic event? | Wed Apr 15 1992 21:05 | 5 |
| jb,
didnt see any mention of beer in there?
;-)
Ian.
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33.572 | It's there | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Apr 15 1992 21:16 | 6 |
| Ian,
It's contained in / Adelphi / (the pub is next to Tetley's brewery on
Hunslet Road)
jb.
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33.573 | oops, sorry | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Yogic flying, new olympic event? | Wed Apr 15 1992 21:23 | 7 |
| jb,
sorry, mate, i misjudged you there!
:-)
Ian.
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33.574 | Eric negotiates | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Apr 16 1992 13:11 | 14 |
33.575 | Predictions | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Apr 16 1992 15:07 | 16 |
| It's a sunny day in Leeds, so I'll take the afternoon off.
Easter Predictions :-
Liverpool 1 Leeds 2
Leeds 4 Coventry 0
Mancs 1 Soton 2
Luton 2 Mancs 1
Mancs 1 Forest 1
That will do niceley !
Happy Easter to all noters (even including Mancs ;-) )
jb.
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33.576 | | R2ME2::HINXMAN | I'll just sit here and rust | Thu Apr 16 1992 18:25 | 4 |
| Does .575 indicate that the author has been consuming
"controlled substances"?
Tony
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33.577 | 'Ave' you been drinking that Pop they call Tetley's | SAC::MAGUIRE_G | | Thu Apr 16 1992 21:24 | 19 |
|
JB,
Have you been drinking Tetley's from Liverpool again or have you just
been drinking. As I remember the frequency for Radio Manchester was
around 206-208 MW so you could try that out for some partisan
commentry.
I hope you have a Happy Easter. Easter still holds fond memories in my
mind of the time we trounced Leeds 3-1 less that 48 hours after losing
to the Red Devils in the F.A. Cup Semi-Final replay after extra time.
Still we are in the Premier League next season when we look forward to
hitting the back of the Leeds net once more at Boundary Park.
Happy Easter.
Regards,
Gerry.
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33.578 | Leeds don't want to win either | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | More Ship dates than actual Ships | Mon Apr 20 1992 23:29 | 12 |
| And more rumours from the U.K
despite slips up by the Mancs on both Saturday and today Leeds look
unable to take the title.
First a 0-0 draw against the F.A Cup winners elect Liverpool and now
apparently it is 0-0 at half-time against relegation contenders
Coventry.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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33.579 | United back on top | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Tue Apr 21 1992 04:18 | 11 |
|
Well the final scores were :
Leeds United 2 Coventry City 0
Manchester Utd 1 Nottingham Forest 2
Leeds go back on top by 1 point with Man Utd still having a
game in hand (West Ham away on Wednesday I think).
Unfortunately for Leeds Man Utd's next two games are West Ham
and then Liverpool (1st division thrashing boys at the moment).
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33.580 | Top top top top of the League | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Apr 21 1992 14:03 | 52 |
| Saturday :-
No telly match, so I listened on Radio Leeds, and had a good nail
nibble. Leeds held out well against a Liverpool side playing above
themselves, and Leeds should have taken 3 points, they had 2 shots
cleared off the line. Still, a draw at Anfield is better than a defeat.
The Luton result was also good, and the Mancs were lucky to get a point.
Monday :-
I've been up to the Lakes for the Easter w/e, I went on a tour of
Morecambe bay on Monday morning - why don't the Mancs move the OT pitch
1 1/2 miles off Grange-over-Sands, so they can a least have a flat
sandy pitch, and then they can blame the tide for any results that
might go against them ? I listened to the Radio 5 commentary on the way
down to Elland Road, 1-0 to Forest, 1-1 (still good). I went into the
ground at 4.30, just as I was about to go to my seat, Forest scored -
the place erupted, one bloke spilt Elland Road Soup down himself but
seemed happy enough. The final score from OT sent the Kop into
raptures, which lasted about 10 minutes into the match with Coventry
when nerves took over and mails were chewed. In the 2nd half,
Fairclough got the opening goal after a Coventry mix up, and that was
it, Coventry can't score. Leeds then went all out, Chapman missed his
usual (almost) sitter, and Coventry were beaten on 81 by a McAllister
penalty, Strachan was injured by then so didn't take it. No doubt there
will be a whingeing session by other about it, but McAllister broke
through, had his shot stopped by Ogrizovich, the rebound came to
Cantona whose shot was handled on the line. Cantona came on for the
last 15 minutes, replacing Wallace, and caused general mayhem in the
Coventry defence.
Leeds go top by one point, they have a superior goal difference (+35 to
+31), the Mancs have a game in hand, if they don't win it.....
Leeds are now in Europe whatever happens, but it's the European Cup
they want to be in. No slip-ups now, we don't want the Mancs or
Wednesday to win the Laegue !
Games left :-
Sunday Sheff Utd away
Sat next Norwich home
Mancs :-
Wednesday West Ham away
Sunday Liverpool away
Saturday next Tottenham home
Looks like the pendulum has swung back in Leeds' favour.
jb.
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33.581 | Mini Liverpool report from Visual evidence | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Tue Apr 21 1992 14:51 | 35 |
| The Liverpool - Leeds game was shown on R.T.E ( local station ) on Saturday. It
made quite poor viewing in general, but I can say that we deserved nothing and
Lukic was by far my man of the match for his timely saves. They hit him with a
few blockbusters but he kept them out. Leeds could have stolen the match at the
death with a Fairclough header which was booted off the line by Houghton. Did
anybody tell Houghton that Leeds are to win the league. Come on Cunno why didn't
you have a word in his ear before the game. We were lucky to escape with a point!
Saying that Yesterday was XSTACY!! MUFC doing their usual Heckle and Jeckle
double act. Eternal thanks to Forest for the large favour done. MUFC's patch,
sorry pitch isn't fit for showjumping let alone play first division football.
Leeds did the business with a good second half performance capped with two goals
to increase our goal difference superiority.
The is the dream scenario for Leeds to win the league
=====================================================
Leeds go into the last game of the season 2 points behind with United odds on to
take the championship. Leeds win their game against Norwich 3-0. Norwich having
nothing to play for as they are safe from relegation. MUFC look like winning
their game against Spurs 1-0 but wait super sub Gazza arrives on the pitch with
minutes to go and with his first touch plays a delightful chip over Schmichels
head from 50 years to gain a draw for Spurs and the league for Leeds.
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDs, Champions!
The stuff that Legends are made of. I will tell my grandchildren that I was
there, if not in body but in mind. It would surpass the Arsenal-Liverpool '89
decider.
JB, Paul, Tim got the photos back. Most of them came out, will send them on in
due course. The only ones that didn't come out were the ones when Cantona
scored. Those photos were somewhat blurred??!!
James.
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33.582 | England Calling | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Apr 21 1992 17:42 | 12 |
| Lukic, Dorigo and Batty are in the England squad for next weeks'
internationals vs the CIS, if Leeds are still involved in the
Championship then they won't be required to play. It's about time Lukic
was called up into the England set up. Dorigo will have a chance due to
Pearce being injured, and Batty should have played vs the Czechs as the
England midfield lacked bite.
If they do play, it means that Leeds beat Sheff Utd, and the Mancs got
less than 6 points from West Ham and Liverpool - they'll probably get 2
at best.
jb.
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33.583 | :-) | XSTACY::PATTISON | Tree! | Tue Apr 21 1992 19:42 | 9 |
|
Grandchildren, James?
Is there something you'd like to tell us?
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33.584 | Telly to decide kick off ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Apr 21 1992 20:13 | 18 |
|
Leeds beat Sheff Utd and Norwich, pts 82 goal diff to +38
Mancs beat West Ham and Tottenham, draw at Liverpool pts 82 goal diff
to +34
Sheff Wed beat Palace and Liverpool pts 79 goal diff poor
It's tight, but it could be all over by Sunday teatime.
The TV companies are wanting to stage the Man U and Leeds games
scheduled for 2 May on Sunday 3 May - this isn't on, why should the
one-eyed monster get matches moved when safety considerations don't
(remember 5th May 1990?, FA Cup replays). The championship is now a 3
way fight, Wednesday could still take it. All matches to start at 3pm
Saturday.
jb.
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33.585 | Injury problems ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Apr 22 1992 13:15 | 13 |
| Strachan and Hodge are fighting to be fit for the high noon showdown at
Bramall Lane, Strachan's sciatica is playing up again, Hodge has a calf
injury. Hodge will miss the Norwich game anyway, as he has reached 21
disciplinary points and will serve a 1 match suspension, he was booked
at Liverpool last Saturday.
I'll listen to the radio commentary tonight, West Ham are as good as
down, perhaps some of the pressure will be off them, and they can play
some good football and beat / hold the Mancs to a draw. No doubt that
cheating little $%$^% Hughes will be diving all over the place, I hope
he gets sent off.
jb.
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33.586 | Gloves off for a clean fight..!? | MIACT::MASON | | Wed Apr 22 1992 16:14 | 24 |
| Mr Blythe, I am shocked.
Here was I thinking that you were one of the more intelligent of
observers...
Mark Hughes may be many things, but to accuse anyone of being a cheat
is just a touch below the belt. You may not like him very much, fine,
but less of the offensive stuff please.
As to the championship, I will only affirm what other noters have said
- its going to be mighty close. The nerves they are a-jangling on both
sides of the fence. Lets not forget Sheffield Wednesday, who, without
any pressure on them whatsoever in comparison to the top two, may well
sneak in and steal the day!
I will be suffering at Old Trafford on the last day of the season,
watching my heroes and listening to yours on the radio. We can but
speculate, but come 5pm on Saturday/Sunday (10pm Friday???) we will all
be put out of our misery.
The best team will win it. Here's to a clean contest...
J
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33.587 | I,m forever blowing | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Wed Apr 22 1992 20:20 | 32 |
|
Jon,James,Tim et al
Hodge and Hughes are now eligible to play in the last game as the
league did not give them the required points for getting booked too
many times, hence not taking them over the 21 point barrier. It would
have affected Man U more than us i think though.
Hodge IS fit to play, it was a tactical reason he was left out of the
squad, Hodge declared himself fit and available to be chosen before
last saturdays game but Wilko didn't pick him.
I believe that Man U have offered some 620 tickets to Tottenham for
the last game of the season (what's the capacity 47K 'ish). Their reason
was that it will be the last time that Man U fans will see the
Stretford end !!. Tottenham have complained saying that it will be Gary
Lineker's and possible Fat boy's last game which a lot of Tottenham
fans would like to go to.
If the title goes to the last game is it fair that Tottenham will have
virtually no voice at Old Trafford to support their team???
I know that some people will say that on some occasions this season
Leeds have been accused of being stingy with tickets but not as bad as
this.
any comments?, should the amount of tickets for away fans be regulated
more rather than left to the discretion of the home team???
Paul....
P.S. Come on You Hammers...
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33.588 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | I speak to God but the Sky is empty | Wed Apr 22 1992 20:31 | 4 |
| RE 587
You any give 2,000 to away fans anyway. That is why the atmosphere at
Leeds sounds so good.
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33.589 | Cor blimey strike a light guv ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Apr 22 1992 20:34 | 20 |
| The fact there will be 47.5 thousand dissappointed Manc fans is neither
here nor there. The tension will be unbearable. I for one hope that
Nice Mr Lineker scores a hat-trick in his last game and that Fatso
doesn't make a fool of himself.
Good news about Hodge, it'll keep Wilko's options open. I won't see the
Liverpool-Manc game or the Leeds highlights, I hope Radio 5 has
commentary, as I'll be on the way to Carlisle on a Steam Special from
Skipton on Sunday afternoon, out of Radio Leeds range I'm afraid.
Now how does that song go ..
"I'm forever blowing bubbles,
Pretty bubbles in the air,
They fly so high, then touch the sky ...."
I'm sure the wife bought some bubbles for when the young nephew & neice
come round, I'll have to look for them.
jb.
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33.590 | They don't always fii it | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Apr 22 1992 20:36 | 7 |
| re .588
Some teams don't even bring 2,000 fans with them. Manc x2, Liverpool,
Forest, Wednesday and the Totts are the only away teams to fill the
entire SE away supporter's end this season.
jb.
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33.591 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | I speak to God but the Sky is empty | Wed Apr 22 1992 20:43 | 6 |
| re 590
I know this might not make sense but I was reading about Oldham fans
saying they didn't like going to Leeds cos' they have so fewer tickets
meaning its so hostile their. They also said they got spat on all
game.
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33.592 | Leeds Llamsa ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Apr 22 1992 20:55 | 7 |
| Correct. It doesn't. I think it would be difficult to be spat on all
game in the SE stand, the nearest Leeds stand is the Family Stand, 10
yards or more away. The away end at Man Utd is directlry under home
supporters, so spit and other things have been known to fly through the
air.
jb.
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33.593 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | I speak to God but the Sky is empty | Wed Apr 22 1992 21:02 | 4 |
| re 592
They (OLDHAM) said they were spat on outside cos' for some reason they
let both supporters out together.
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33.594 | Disgusting Habit. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Apr 22 1992 21:09 | 4 |
| A common occurence at many grounds when both sets of fans are let
out together unfortunately.
jb.
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33.595 | Unbelievable but true ! | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Support SLS and see the world | Thu Apr 23 1992 06:37 | 7 |
|
Well that's the end of the games in hand :
West Ham United 1 Manchester Utd 0
Leeds are 'true' league leaders for the first time this season.
I wonder what will happen next ?
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33.597 | I can hear the moans from 32.* over here | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Thu Apr 23 1992 13:21 | 24 |
| Is it possible that Leeds can win the league all on their own. This is the
situation that I have been waiting for all season. So many people kept trying
to tell me that MUFC were so much better *and* even though we had more points
than them it didn't matter because MUFC had zillions of games in hand. Well, you
know what you can do with your games in hand now. It is a fair and square race
to the finish. There is still a lot of football to be played but at last we are
on top with none of this games in hand rubbish.
*The old maxim is so true a point in the bag is worth 3 games in hand*.
I notice that the odds on a Leeds league win have shortened to 30/100 and MUFC
are out to 5/2. A good bet on MUFC for the league still. A bit :-( that I didn't
take some of the odds after the City defeat earlier this month but I didn't have
the neck to chance it.
Come on Leeds Leeds Leeds we can see the championship in the distance and its
getting closer with each match. It could be won on Sunday evening with Leeds
winning, United losing and Wednesday also losing or drawing Saturday. Even if
they win and we win our goal difference of +20 will suffice even if Norwich
happen to beat the only unbeaten team in the league by 10 goals Saturday week.
Anyone hear Leeds Leeds Leeds the remixed version? JB music critic any report!
James.
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33.598 | I think we need to get things clear! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever | Thu Apr 23 1992 15:08 | 17 |
| I am after reading some comments in 32.* and all they can talk about is that
neither Leeds or United deserve the title and a whole lot of other things like
Arsenal and Sheff Utd starting too late making their run.
People, remember the championship is over 42 games and not a contest from
Christmas onwards. That's why the two Uniteds are on top because they have won
most games over the whole season. So what if Sheff Utd. have the best record
since Christmas. That won't win a league. It is the team that does well over
the whole season and who has a bit of luck too that wins. Are people trying to
devalue this years league. Just because there isn't a runaway championship
doesn't mean that the champions this year won't be worthy the title champion.
Chelsea in the 50's won the championship with the lowest number of points 56 ( 2
points per win ) I think. Leeds are already on 56 so it can't be the worst
championship ever.
James.
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33.599 | Geneva Whites | RUTILE::BOYES | | Thu Apr 23 1992 15:11 | 61 |
| Marching on together...
We're on the march with Wilko's army...
Ooh-Ah-Cantona, I said Ooh-Ah-Cantona...
United are back...
etc. etc. etc.
Does anyone know if the Norwich game is to be moved to the *Sunday* - I'm
flying to Leeds for the last game and need to know now so I can book my
ticket from Geneva.
Went to the Coventry game on Monday. Newsome looked like he's growing
in confidence which is a relief. He has Zico's speed and strength but
lacks the attacking instinct. Strachan looked weary, with McAlister/Sid
James making up for this - winning the ball more than he used to. Batts
enjoyed himself, and the whole team seemed confident. Lukic played
another rock-solid game. Inspector Gadget is always good for a few
scares, but dominated in the air. As for big Eric - wow. When he came
on for Wallace with about 15 minutes to go he really lifted the crowd.
Its rare to see a player with such power, skill and real belief in
himself. He went on one storming run from our area to theirs which sent
us into rapture. If we need a goal to win the Championship in the last
match at Elland road - with 10 minutes left - and Eric le Grand comes
on the pitch the noise at Elland Rd. will be beyond belief.
Regarding the Sheffield Utd. game, Howard and Harry are the best of
friends (live next door to each other supposedly) so I wonder if they
can work something out. Bobby-Bobby-Bobby-Dav-id-son wont be playing
(which could have been helpful). Surely the Blades won't want to help
the Owls either. A lot will depend on Gadget and Fairclough and luck.
Who's bought a bond? I have. I was speaking to the woman in charge and
she said they sold around 3,500 (last week). The YEP reported this as
2,000,000 quid. She said they'll be keeping the applications open for
"a while yet" -> which probably translates to the beggining of next
season. The sticking point behind building the East stand is the money
from the Football Trust, wich Arsenal and Man. U. supposedly being
turned down for around two million each because they are too rich.
If we win the League then expect building of the East stand to begin in
May. It will take two seasons, with the bottom half of the Lowfields
still being used while the top-tier of the stand is being built and
then vice-versa. My season ticket in a plumb position in the new stand
could work out at 60-90 pounds a season for 5-6 years, making the bond
a fine deal. Other punters could well be paying 400+. Once the Kop
becomes all seater the "Mirfield Whites" (about 10 of us) will be
moving from there to a bank of lush seats (with bar hopefully) in the
new stand. It's about time as we're getting too old to go "f.. mental"
and would prefer waitress service, plush lounge, rug on knees etc.
Have any of you trendy whites bought the new Leeds t-shirt in "James"
style (LE-on front,E-on sleeve,DS-on back) - well lush.
J.B. -> do you work at the Digital site next to the ground ? Could you
mail me and tell me what Digital in Leeds actually do.
On. On. On.
Clive.
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33.600 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Thu Apr 23 1992 15:16 | 21 |
| <<< Note 33.598 by XSTACY::JLUNDON "J.A. Lundon 890-2417 Leeds Forever" >>>
-< I think we need to get things clear! >-
>I am after reading some comments in 32.* and all they can talk about is that
>neither Leeds or United deserve the title and a whole lot of other things like
>Arsenal and Sheff Utd starting too late making their run.
>People, remember the championship is over 42 games and not a contest from
>Christmas onwards. That's why the two Uniteds are on top because they have won
>most games over the whole season. So what if Sheff Utd. have the best record
>since Christmas. That won't win a league. It is the team that does well over
>the whole season and who has a bit of luck too that wins. Are people trying to
>devalue this years league. Just because there isn't a runaway championship
'Twas me who wrote the stuff about Arsenal and Sheff Utd and I'm not a
"they", I'm a neutral; I don't really give a stuff who wins the league.
I wasn't suggesting that Sheff Utd would be more worthy champions,
merely pointing out what I took to be an interesting fact. As for this
season as a whole I've had my 2p worth in 13.234.
jeff
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33.601 | Not quite there. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Apr 24 1992 16:32 | 30 |
| re .599
The Digital site in Lowfields way is logistics, this will be moving
soon. I work at the Horsforth Office, I'm part of
SWAS/EIS/Services/Northern Technlogy Consultancy Centre or whatever
it's called this week, I am a Database / Information Management person.
The Digital Office at Horsforth is primarily a Sales and Support office
for the area, there are around 200 people based in Leeds.
re Mancs latest loss :-
Yes, I was very happy with the result, it puts Leeds in the driving
seat, they can control their destiny by winning 2 games. If Leeds win
on Sunday (12 noon) and the Mancs don't, then Leeds are more or less
sure of the championship. Sheff Utd will be a hard nut to crack, but I
expect the Scousers to finally nail the OT coffin lid shut, leading to
a big clear out and blood let.
'Get out there and win and to hell with the opposition - it's up to you
now'
re Leeds Music :-
T' wife is getting the 12' version for me this lunchtime.
The Norwich game will be on Sat 2 May, but it may not kick off at 3pm,
if the Championship is not decided, 5pm along with the manc hgame has
been suggested.
jb.
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33.602 | Ahem. | FORTY2::ETHERIDGE | What a sandwich | Fri Apr 24 1992 17:16 | 10 |
| <<< Note 33.601 by BAHTAT::BLYTHE "Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill" >>>
-< Not quite there. >-
>> re Leeds Music :-
>>
>> T' wife is getting the 12' version for me this lunchtime.
Not another format. Not very compact either, eh?
Ian.
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33.603 | ' was meant to be a " - keyboards' fault | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Apr 24 1992 19:48 | 1 |
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33.604 | The English Celtic fail again!! | KIRKTN::ISUTHERLAND | See Milky Milky!He's your dad. | Sun Apr 26 1992 22:30 | 3 |
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Congratulations to Leeds on winning the title.It's been a long time
coming.(But not as long as some we could mention,eh).
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33.605 | Ian Rush breaks his duck | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Cardinal Thang, read the charges | Sun Apr 26 1992 23:15 | 6 |
|
Congratulations to Leeds United.
I'm glad that we could be of some help to you!
Ian.
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33.606 | -< Mark Walters adds a 2nd >'Mark Walters adds a 2nd' | PEKING::RUSSELLN | | Sun Apr 26 1992 23:42 | 6 |
| Well done Leeds on winning the league.
I'm glad that Man Utd never won it !!
N.
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33.607 | | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Sun Apr 26 1992 23:44 | 8 |
|
Sheff Utd 2 Leeds 3
Liverpool 2 Man U 0
Leeds take the title.
Gary.
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33.608 | Howard Wilkinson walks on water | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Mon Apr 27 1992 04:49 | 23 |
|
YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Well what can I say. I can hardly believe it. 7 days ago we were 2
points behind and Man Utd had a game in hand. A week is a long time
in politics and even longer in football.
18 years ago Leeds won the title by what happened at Anfield when
Leeds weren't playing, and Liverpool met a North-Eastern club in
the Cup Final as well.
I'm glad the title was won with an away win because I think it's Leeds'
away games (QPR & Man City excepted) where they have produced their
best performances; especially the Sheff Wed game but not forgetting
the Villa game and the League Cup game against Everton. They also
managed 4 away to Notts County and 3 against Spurs, West Ham and Sheff
Wed and remained unbeaten at Anfield, Highbury and Old Trafford.
I can't wait to watch the highlights of the last weeks football on
TV here tonight :-)
One_very_happy_Leeds_fan
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33.609 | Starting prices | ESSB::SONEILL | | Mon Apr 27 1992 12:05 | 7 |
| What can I say but now that Leeds are Champions I will call in to
Corals at lunch time and collect a small wager made at 10-1 last
August. For the record, at the start of the season Liverpool were
13/8, Arsenal 15/8, Man UNited 8/1 and Sheffield Wed 66/1 (nice
each way bet!.)
Shane
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33.610 | | UTRUST::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Mon Apr 27 1992 12:17 | 4 |
| Congrats to the Leeds team and supporters. Now go out there and give
'em hell in Europe next year!
Stevo
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33.611 | Leeds are Champions | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Mon Apr 27 1992 12:41 | 5 |
33.612 | Well done.... | MACNAS::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Old Game... | Mon Apr 27 1992 12:52 | 13 |
|
Well done ..... Leeds
Congrats on winning the Big ONE.......
I'm sure there was one hell of a patry in Leeds last night.....
You stuck it out right to the end.....
Goes to prove in a two horse race anything can happen....
Fair play to ye boys.....
jm
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33.613 | I remember '74 but not '67!!!! | MACNAS::MJGREANEY | What's another year? | Mon Apr 27 1992 13:02 | 10 |
| Congrats to Leeds......brilliant!!!!!!!!
Great to see 3 ex Forest guys get their rewards!!!
Its the second year running that Forest have decided who wins the
Championship!!
Well done!!!!
M.J.
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33.614 | Liverpool supporter demands share of winnings! | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Cardinal Thang, read the charges | Mon Apr 27 1992 13:02 | 6 |
| re.609
Shane,
arent you gonna tell us how much you put on?!?
;-)
Ian.
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33.615 | | YUPPY::PANES | A star-spangled spaniel in the works | Mon Apr 27 1992 13:10 | 5 |
|
Well done chaps.
Stuart
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33.616 | CONGRATS | SUBURB::WAITEG | I speak to God but the Sky is empty | Mon Apr 27 1992 13:13 | 3 |
| Leeds deserved it...
So well done to them from Millwall.
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33.617 | Congrats | OPG::TONY | | Mon Apr 27 1992 13:40 | 6 |
| Its been a really disastrous Easter for us, but I'd like to say
Well done to LEEDS and also to John Blythe for flying their flag in here,
more or less single handedly.......
Tony
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33.618 | | HAM::SCHARNBERG | This reply is being recorded | Mon Apr 27 1992 13:43 | 8 |
|
Congrats, Leeds Lads.
You won't pass Frankfurt in the EC, though :-)
( If they make it )
Heiko
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33.619 | Congrats and good luck in the Euro Cup | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Mon Apr 27 1992 14:03 | 8 |
| You can kiss it, polish it, hug it, even spit on it and buff it up a
bit, but please please don't put any of that Tetley's muck in it! That
would curdle our lads' Champagne next season when it returns home for
its bi-annual visit.
Anyway, heartiest congratulations to LEEDSLEEDSLEEDS! The best team
always wins the Championship over the xx matches but poor teams often
win the Cups.
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33.620 | It went to the best team......(unfortunately) | PEKING::DAVIESG | E=Mc2..Einstein Was Right! | Mon Apr 27 1992 14:28 | 4 |
|
Yeah. well done.
Greg...
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33.621 | cheers, chaps | DBOT14::RUSSELL | | Mon Apr 27 1992 14:40 | 10 |
| well done ....you kept your cool when others couldnt. Now lets hope you
have a more fruitful (and peaceful) European Cup FInal than back in
74/75....
I always thought you were robbed in that Final....who was it against?
cant remember, long time ago.
enjoy.
*Tiger*
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33.622 | Well done. | MIACT::MASON | | Mon Apr 27 1992 14:47 | 10 |
| Congratulations on winning the title, as Brian says, we'll just have to
wait that little bit longer and work that little bit harder.
It's good to see another quality side in Europe.
J. A gutted UNITED fan.
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33.623 | Flat Caps and Hob-nailed boots | MINDER::MACDONALDI | MUFC ECWC Champions | Mon Apr 27 1992 15:31 | 12 |
| Well done Leeds.
Gutted as I am, I am happy in the knowledge that a NORTHERN team has
again showed that the teams 'up norf' have what it takes. Look at the
top half of the league and see where the majority of the teams are
from:)
Roll on next season, and European competitions here we come so watch
out world !!!!
mac
PS when do the Euro Championships start this summer??
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33.624 | Bring out those skeletons ... | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Mon Apr 27 1992 16:07 | 5 |
|
Bayern Munich wasn't it ? Didn't Peter Lorimer have a perfectly good
goal disallowed ?
Adam.
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33.625 | Match report part(y) one!!! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Mon Apr 27 1992 16:10 | 75 |
|
The Final in question was the one againt Bayerm Munich in 1975 in
Paris.
Match report (unbiased of course!!).
Got to the ground a little late yesterday due to traffic problems
approaching Sheffield, missed the first couple of mins but not a lot
happened.
Well as has been said Sheffield have much improved in the last 4-5
months and i would agree with that.
Brian Deane i felt caused us a lot of problems when running on to
throughs ball from deep. He was finding a lot of space and it wasn't
until later in the game that Newsome marked him a lot closer.
Sheffield had the wind slightly in their favour in the first half
playing to the Spion kop and they made it count on 26 mins when Alan
Cork picked up on a poor Leeds clearance and scrambled the ball past
Lukic.
It was starting to look like one of those days when we didn't look
like scoring (and feeling more depressed through Sheffield singing
you're going to win f*** all to the tune of we're going to win the
league).Tension was released when Strachan in his inimitable self took
a fast free kick to Wallace who's attempt was cleared by Gayle, but only to
Speed who shot across goal, the ball ricochet of Wallace and went into
the net. Rees Sheffields' goalkeeper was heavily strapped around the
right thigh as he came out for the second half and it was obvious that
he was going to be a handicap for the second half. Leeds hit the post
within a minute of the second half starting,the second goal came on
64 minutes when a free kick down the left from a foul on Nora gave
McAllister the chance to curl in a free kick out of reach of the
injured Rees to the far post for Newsome to get down and head in.
Sheffield came straight back with goal within 3 mins. constant
pressure and poor clearances of low balls into the box brought a
mistake from Chapman who tried to clear the ball for a corner but miss
hit it and stuck it in at Lukic's near post 2-2.
Leeds then began to apply pressure to the injured Rees, raining
crosses in that he could not possibly reach, he was having to virtually
hop across his area to pick up back passes. Shutt who came on at half
time for Strachan played some well controlled football down the right
wing when fed the ball. McAllister was subbed about 15 mins from time
he had a quiet game, not his usual industrious self.On came Cantona,
again another team that don't know how to handle the Frenchman. I have
seen a lot of players take a standoff attitude when he gets the ball
almost as if they are afraid to tackle?. The third goal came 2-3 mins
after Cantona's arrival (inspiration or what!). Cantona lobbed the ball
forward and chased alongside Gayles left, on his right was Wallace
shadowing.The ball initially hit Gayle's thigh and rose to head height,
he chose to head back to Rees, who had he been fit would have caught
the ball but he couldn't jump and the ball seemed to take forever to
reach the net almost blown in by Leeds fans at the other end.
Then came the Sheffield onslaught, pushing up to the half way line
getting offside for our goal kicks. Bassett was off the bench
coaching,urging his players forward . Never have i seen a team come
back at you so strong with such commitment. we weathered the storm
eventually and as you know the rest is history. Leeds fans spilled out
of the ground chanting their songs but apprehensive for the Man U
result.
We were just approaching Leicester when Liverpool scored and the
convoy of Leeds cars heading southbound flashed thier lights and
honked their horns what a sight. By 5.00 it was all over, Leeds
proclaimed champions, hard luck to Man U who have played some attractive
and exiting football this season but fell at the final hurdle.
All i can say is John Carney where's my Tenner???
Paul.....
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33.626 | Why so subdued? | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Mon Apr 27 1992 17:25 | 7 |
| Did anyone else see the interview from Lee Chapman's home at the end of
the Liverpool match? Messrs Chapman, Cantona, Batty and McAllister were
seated on L.C.'s couch looking more like they had just lost the title.
I was amazed at their lack of emotion, particularly David Batty as he has
been a Leeds fan since he was a lad. The only explanation I can think
of is that they had been on so many valium over the last few weeks that
the effect hadn't worn off yet.
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33.627 | At home with Lee..tackeeee.. | MIACT::MASON | | Mon Apr 27 1992 17:42 | 11 |
| re. 626
Possibly out of respect for UNITED??? Extreme jubilation would have
been a little like rubbing salt into the wound. Even Howard Wilkinson
was very restrained. If so, then I take my hat off to them.
Otherwise, it probably hadn't really sunk in and after all of the
tension which they would have been under for most of the day, they were
probably too relieved and too kna*****d!
J
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33.628 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | I speak to God but the Sky is empty | Mon Apr 27 1992 17:45 | 2 |
| I thought it was funny when Liverpool scored the second goal and they
went to Lee's house. Where was his wife Lesley Ash
|
33.629 | Howard's boozy Sunday lunch!! | YUPPY::STRAGED | Toto...this sure ain't Kansas!! | Mon Apr 27 1992 17:59 | 18 |
| I'll add my congrats to the new (but temporary) League Champions!!
(because it's coming back to Highbury next season!!)
Looks after it!!!
PJ
P.S. Winning a championship while sitting on your living room couch
probably doesn't feel quite as good as doing it on the field. Although
it probably wasn't too depressing either!!
P.P.S. Did anyone think, as I did, that Howard Wilkinson was a stewed
as a newt during the post game interview on ITV?? He had come on the
phone after a long Sunday lunch and Elton Welsby cut him off when he
wasn't making any sense at all. Even Dennis Law - no stranger to drink
himself - was laughing!!
long Sunday lunch
|
33.630 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | Walk Proud Alex Ferguson | Mon Apr 27 1992 18:11 | 8 |
|
Well done Leeds. My father, who is a life long Leeds fan, returns from
a two week holiday (missed all the fun!) in Malta this week. My life
is gonna be pure HELL!!
Rather Leeds than Looneypool.
Tony
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33.631 | Leeds deserve their success. Well done. | TRUCKS::SANT | I owe,I owe,so off to work I go | Mon Apr 27 1992 19:03 | 12 |
|
Congratulations to Leeds, and all you staunch Leeds fans,
especially to jb, who has admirably kept the Leeds flag flying
even through the dark days of adversity when things got tough.
Well done Howard Wilkinson, who has done a superb job. I hope
we can relieve you of the mantle next season, but enjoy it for
12 months at least 8-)
Good luck in Europe - and be careful out there....
Andy.
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33.632 | I didn't know Leslie Ash played for Leeds... | YUPPY::SEABURYS | We're going to Wembley, you're not... | Mon Apr 27 1992 19:47 | 11 |
|
Congrats to Leeds...
The best team, over the whole season, won it in the end, and I'm only
glad you managed to silence that mob from Manchester (for a while at
least!! 8-) )
All you have to do now is win the Champion's Cup next season...
Stew.
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33.633 | Let the stats do the talking! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-2417 Leeds Champions | Mon Apr 27 1992 20:33 | 131 |
33.634 | Success at last!!! | REPAIR::JAMANI | | Tue Apr 28 1992 15:05 | 15 |
|
I still can't believe that Leeds have won the Championship!!
Ever since I was a nipper I have been waiting for this momentus day.
No words can express how happy I feel at this present moment.
HW has been a messiah (sp?). He has brought success to Leeds United
after 17 LONG years in the wilderness.
I only hope that HW can strengthen the squad so that we can continue to
win all the major trophies.
S
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33.635 | A piece of useless info... | MIACT::MASON | | Tue Apr 28 1992 15:58 | 4 |
| Does anyone know that Tony Dorigo's mum works in the Birmingham office?
Useless, but true.
|
33.636 | Has Wilko really got a Science degree? | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Cheap essential dialogue | Tue Apr 28 1992 16:40 | 5 |
| Really? In that case I've spoken to Tony Dorigo's mum on one occasion.
True, but useless.
|
33.637 | A cryptic crossword for all those solvers out there? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-2417 Leeds Champions | Tue Apr 28 1992 20:23 | 18 |
| I got a friend of mine who is a whizz at cryptic crosswords last week to
develop a clue with the answer "Leeds for the league" that I would put in this
week sometime. However, events overtook and it meant that the clue would be
out of date but good old GL came through with an even better one as follows.
I think it is styled on CROSAIRE ( Irish Times ) but the conventions are the
same the world over.
CLUE :-
Lee Chapman is so red about the consequence of Sunday's games? (5,3,9)
----- --- ---------
Answers to this conference! That's if there are any!
James.
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33.638 | What are Leeds? | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Tue Apr 28 1992 20:30 | 6 |
|
Couldn't be an anagram by any chance, could it?
I won't post the answer in case someone's still trying to work it out.
jeff
|
33.639 | | FORTY2::ETHERIDGE | What a sandwich | Tue Apr 28 1992 20:48 | 3 |
| Very clever.
Ian.
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33.640 | I think I got it | XSTACY::JSHEEHY | | Tue Apr 28 1992 21:06 | 6 |
|
'Leeds - Main Poachers'
Is that it James
js
|
33.641 | It Fits!!! | ESOA12::PILATON | | Tue Apr 28 1992 23:29 | 6 |
|
'Leeds - PAY Liverpool'
Most likely ha!
NP
|
33.642 | got it | XSTACY::PATTISON | Tree! | Wed Apr 29 1992 14:18 | 2 |
|
Easy, but clever.
|
33.643 | Only joking - or am I? | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Wed Apr 29 1992 14:33 | 6 |
|
Mind you, it could be a prediction for next season:
Leeds get relegated.
jeff
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33.644 | Top of the tree, Leeds United (Burnley too !) | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United AFC, League Champions 1991-92 | Wed Apr 29 1992 14:52 | 84 |
| It has already been reported thet Leeds United are Champions. I haven't
looked in 32.* yet, but no doubt there is 'banter'. The Mancs blew up,
Leeds didn't and they have deserved their championship. I haven't
celebrated yet, having been struck down with a bug since Sunday (hence
no replies till today and I'm in Leeds and not Reading). To say people
in Leeds are happy is an understatement !
The Trophy will be presented to Strachan before the Norwich game
(anybody care for a few glasses of pop before the game Paul ?), in
front of a sell out crowd, there is a civic reception in Leeds on
Sunday morning.
Never mind the game reports, this is how I spent Sunday :-
Got to a windswept and cold Skipton Station at 10:40 and saw my train
for the day was stood in the down goods loop hauled by Stanier 8F 2-8-0
No 48151. Took some piccies and then got on the train, consisting of
families having a day out and gricers in their flares, anoraks (with
zip up acrylic fur hoods) and me, kitted out in a Leeds United top. As
it happens, the loco is based at Steamtown (Carnforth) and most of the
support crew had Manc leanings. The Driver was a Skipton man, and a
Leeds supporter to boot.
The train left on time at 11.15, and made steady progress to
Hellifield, where we were held up for 10 mins to allow a late running
Manchester Carlisle Charter with 47827 on the front to pass. The hgame
then kicked off as we were passing Long Preston. A stop was made in my
hometown of Settle, where several people got on, a couple of which I
knew - Leeds Fans. The 8F forged steadily up the Long Drag, whwn
passing Stainforth, the bad news came - 1-0 to the Blades. Reception on
R5 was now getting dodgy - we were in the High Pennines, in cuttings
and tunnels, so the radio was being moved around to get the best
reception. Over Ribblehead Viaduct and under Blea Moor we went, still
1-0. Dent was passed, and Rise Hill tunnel negotiated, then on to
Garsdale, half time and a water stop. 1-1 came the latest score,
Wallace getting it. I went up to the engine 'It's 1-1'. The train was
now 20 minutes late, it set off North again, up the last 5 miles to the
summit at Ais Gill, passing Lunds, Newsome made it 2-1, but just after
the Summit, near the site of the 1913 crash, the Blades equalised.
Reception now was poor, and I almost missed the winner, scored as we
rattled through Kirkby Stephen. The last few minutes were worrying, but
the final whistle came just before Appleby. We were supposed to stop at
Appleby for 1/2 hour (just enough time for a pint in the Midland) but
as we were running late this stop was cancelled. Carlisle was reached,
and I saw the Driver and told him the score. The station announcer was
drowned out by the steamboat hooter on the 8F being blown a few times.
The support crew looked grimy and not too happy.
The return journey was due to start at 5|15, just after the Manc game
had finished. I listened to the commentary on R5, 1-0 to the Pool -
this is looking good. Trains came and went, the rain came down and it
was cold as only Carlisle can be (it was also closed). The 2nd goal
came, there was a shout from a Leeds United Top Clad person, the Driver
got to know, and the train departed with it's whistle playing a tattoo.
I celebrated with a cuppa tea.
The weather on the return was sunny / wet / hailing / light snow /
windy / some low cloud (ie normal S & C), and we arrived back in
Skipton at 8|2, 10 late.
I drove back to Leeds, there were parties going on in the pubs and in
City Square, so I packed my bags ready for a 5.0 start for Reading, but
the excitement / dodgy pizza / bug got me before then ... (continued in
Notesfile stmach::bugs).
The championship bug will hit home on Saturday, when there will be a
noisy full house at Elland Rd, and the open top bus gets dusted down
for Sunday's trip.
Europe next, can Wilko do what Don Revie didn't ?
The money is flowing in, > 3 million from seasons, > 3 million from the
Bond Schemer, 4 million from European Cup TV fees, gate takings,
Advertising, 5 million over 7 years from Admiral the kit sponsors, more
from shirt sponsors etc etc.
The work on the new East stand starts in 2 weeks. Wilko will also have
money for new players, Brian Deane is likely to be an early target.
Cantona will also become a Leeds United player officially this week,
whwn his personal terms will be finalised.
More later !
jb.
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33.645 | Surely not! | TRUCKS::SANT | I owe,I owe,so off to work I go | Wed Apr 29 1992 15:02 | 11 |
|
After the way Brian Deane missed chance after chance on Sunday I
would have thought he had buried any hope of Howard Wilkinson
moving in for him......
...although, maybe that was the deal, and Brian will sign in the
summer ;-)
Only kidding, guys....maybe he's always a donkey 8-)
Andy.
|
33.646 | Off to South Effrica | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United AFC, League Champions 1991-92 | Wed Apr 29 1992 17:48 | 4 |
| Leeds are going to South Effrica in July for a pre-season tour (if
South Effrica are allowed back into FIFA which is expected).
jb.
|
33.647 | Are you receiving us in Islington ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United AFC, League Champions 1991-92 | Wed Apr 29 1992 17:50 | 3 |
| When do we get the Champions flag ?
jb.
|
33.648 | We want them back! | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Wed Apr 29 1992 18:25 | 3 |
| Providing no pitch invasions or on/off field punch-ups deprive Leeds of
points, you should be given your loan of our cup and flag straight after
Saturday's match. Mind you keep them clean!
|
33.649 | New one to play for | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United AFC, League Champions 1991-92 | Wed Apr 29 1992 18:39 | 7 |
| They won't be coming back (see Manc note)
There won't be any punch ups, there might be some punters on the pitch
at the end, but all in a good humour. I'll probably be 'unfit to
drive'.
jb.
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33.650 | The answer was LEEDS ARE CHAMPIONS! Apt I think? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-2417 Leeds Champions | Wed Apr 29 1992 20:49 | 13 |
| I think I gave the answer away but then Leeds winning the league was easier
than we even thought.
The answer was made up of an anagram of LEE CHAPMAN IS SO RED. Apt since I
think that Lee was a bit red in the face after 15 whiskeys on Sunday night.
Re::33.646
Leeds are coming over to Ireland in August for a few games against Cork City
to help open their new stadium and as always Shelbourne. Wouldn't it be great
to have Shels in the Euro cup! Might even get to see them home and away?
James.
|
33.651 | David Batty agony Aunt column Via Tim Kennedy! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-2417 Leeds Champions | Wed Apr 29 1992 21:02 | 52 |
| Hey readers, its time for the periodic visit of Leeds United's own
footballing combine harvester David Batty, for his agony column.
(Very apt David). He has a letter from a reader from north of the
border.
Dear Batty,
As a Rangers fan I used to enjoy attending old firm derby games against
our rivals Celtic, I stopped going due to the problem I am about to describe.
If you could suggest a solution to my problem then I will once again be
able to travel to matches and watch Rangers 9 men score an equaliser against
Celtics twelve tinkers (that includes the referee) at Parkhead.
To get to Glasgow I travelled by train from Edinburgh, this would stop
at various places en route, Falkirk being one that springs to mind. Now
at each stop a large number of well groomed, handsome, polite young men
would step onto the train - these were easily recognisable as Rangers fans
(or yourself David ! By the way I think your England performances have been
first class, could you possibly send me an autographed shin pad ? Preferably
one of your opponent's), I digress, amongst these shining examples of manhood
were a bunch of dishevelled, fare dodging, malnourished paupers who due
to their propensity for unwashed green and white hooped shirts could be
nothing other than beggars. I pay a lot of money to travel by train and I
do not want my journey to be marred by smelly neds who not only have the nerve
to travel without tickets but who also sit next to me on occasions, let me
tell you David I was almost gassed the last time one particularly dim specimen
decided to soil the seat covers beside me.
Kindly sort this situation out. I remain Sir your faithful and obedient
servant, Billy.
P.S. To think I missed the 5-1 and 4-1 victories due to the memory of those
odours.
David Says,
What's wrong wi' yer, yer greet big jessie. Call yerself a Scotsman?
Big Gordon Strachan wouldn't blanch at a few bad smells and the odd
personal hygiene problem. Count yourself lucky Rangers don't have to
play agin the Red Filth like Leeds do, an' 'ave thousands o' raggy
arsed flared-trouser wearin' drug dealers teemin' round yer ground
into t' bargain. Anyhow I'd rather play against Celtic three times
in a week than have ter risk treading on Ryan Giggs' discarded
contaminated needles lyin' round t' pitch.
You 'aven't lived pal. Pull yerself together and gerrup to Parkhead
when the next Old Firm game comes up. By the way, Mel Sterland says
send his regards to yer sister and maintenance is in t' post.
I'm sendin' yer a signed blood-covered sock o' Peter Beardsley's
but I'm sick o' signing stuff, anyone else who asks 'll get
smack in't mouth.
Batts
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33.656 | FROM YORKSHIRE? Hit KP7 | XSTACY::PATTISON | Tree! | Wed Apr 29 1992 21:34 | 8 |
|
Somebody suggested to me today (and why not) that Manchester United
could yet win the league, if Leeds have points deducted for say,
fielding an ineligible player or something.
well, its a funny old game.
Dave
|
33.653 | coming to Dublin? | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Wed Apr 29 1992 22:00 | 7 |
| re .650
If any Leeds fans out there come to Dublin for a match, look us up.
There's a bunch (4) of non-attending, non-noting armchair-bound Leeds fans
in this office. As the man said, if Leeds were playing in their back
garden they'd probably draw the curtains, but some of the rest of us would
go along.
|
33.654 | At the end of a perfect season | ESSB::SONEILL | | Wed Apr 29 1992 23:31 | 12 |
| JB,
Thanks for ploughing an almost lone furrow against the Red Hoardes.
Continue to Keep us informed of developments at the home of the champions.
Have a few pints for me on Saturday as well. I offered the United fans
here a comiseratory pint but it appears that fear of choking is
contagious as I was refused.
Any news in Leeds of who the lolly might be spent on next season?
Roy Keane would be a nice long term replacement for Gordon Strachan!
Shane
|
33.655 | Leeds Lose ! | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United AFC, League Champions 1991-92 | Thu Apr 30 1992 13:58 | 6 |
| Leeds United lost 2.4 million last year, due to 'activity in the
transfer market'. They did show a healthy trading profit though. Wilko
has spent 10 million on players, but has recouped about 6, so he hasn't
done bad really.
jb.
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33.657 | Howard on TV | MACNAS::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Old Game... | Thu Apr 30 1992 20:33 | 23 |
|
I thought Howard Wilkinson's comments on Sportnightlast night
were very good....
He knew Man Utd would end up with a congested fixture list
in the last few weeks of the season , because they were involved
in Cup Competitions...he reckoned it would take its toll on the
Mancs and wasn't he right....The Mancs has to play 4 games in 6
days and that was one of the reasons the Mancs lost out....
For the Rumblelows Cup Final...Forest hadn't a chance...they
has played something like 6 games in 10 days before the Wembley
Final...they had to have been totally exhausted for the Final...
If Forest had been fresh they probably would have beaten the
Mancs an Wembley, just like they did the double in the League...
That would have meant no Trophy for Man Utd......that wouldn't
have gone down too well at Old Trafford..
It will be interesting to see if any new faces arrive at Elland Rd..
If Dean Saunders arrives as forecast...that should make Leeds an
even better team.....
jm
|
33.658 | Wilko's the man | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Thu Apr 30 1992 20:56 | 38 |
| HW did come across well last night - he speaks a lot of sense and
doesn't get carried away (unlike some managers, that wear a Red and
Black Adidas Anorak). The mancs did run into a fixture pile up - the
thing Leeds had to do was carry on, trying to average 2 points a game
(they will miss this by 2 points, 82 as opposed to 84) - 2 points a
game puts you 'there or thereabouts' by the end of the season.
The Sky Footballers' Football Show had Bremner, Giles and Hunter
discussing the merits of the present set up vs theirs, and drawing
parallels. They were a little surprised thet Leeds had done it, but
then the currenrt day Leeds had some base to build on - a reasonable
(in hock) stadium and a good support (read revenue), a Chairman with
money and a willingness to spend also helped. When it came to discuss
the post-Revie days, the stewardships of Mesrs Clarke, Gray and Bremner
were glossed over, to save embarrasment, but they were dark days - if
Bremner had taken Leeds to Div 1 in 85-86, then they would have
struggled - the board waited for the right man (Wilko) to lead leedfs
out of the doldrums.
The present side have done reeally well, the basis of a side to stay
where they are is almost there, but there will be signings made to
bolster the squad. Strachan has another season or two or three left, but
he won't play every game. The defence needs beefing up, a Sterland
replacement and a Whyte / Fairclough standby. I expect 2 or 3 signings
in the Summer. European Cup ? I'm sure Leeds will make it to the 2
mini-leagues if the draw is kind to them. Could they win it ? Why not -
it's worth having a go at, but they will probably be defeated by the
number of fixtures in the League - 22 teams is too many in the Premier
League, 18 is a better number.
Next season will see 42 League games, up to 11 EC games, up to 7 R Cup
Games, up to 5 FA Cup games..............
The league Schedule will be decided by TV, so there will be Saturdays,
Sundays and worst of all Monday Nights.
jb.
|
33.659 | Cup Questions | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Thu Apr 30 1992 21:01 | 13 |
| An afterthought :-
When is the Charity Shield to be played ?
It is possible Leeds United will play Liverpool twice before the start
of the season, once in the CS and once in a friendly (at Elland Road)
for Jim Beglin's testimonial.
Will there be a Rumbelow's Cup including Premier Division sides next
season, 'cause it's really the League Cup and the Premier Division
isn't in the League.
jb.
|
33.660 | Yehh....ok | OPG::TONY | | Thu Apr 30 1992 21:01 | 20 |
| <<33.657>>
<<MACNAS::JMURPHY "It's a Funny Old Game...">>
<<Howard on TV>>
> For the Rumblelows Cup Final...Forest hadn't a chance...they
> has played something like 6 games in 10 days before the Wembley
> Final...they had to have been totally exhausted for the Final...
> If Forest had been fresh they probably would have beaten the
> Mancs an Wembley, just like they did the double in the League...
> That would have meant no Trophy for Man Utd......that wouldn't
> have gone down too well at Old Trafford..
If a football was square...If he was offside..If there weren't any goalposts..
Sure that wouldn't have gone down too well at OT...
I suppose you know from experience..!!!
Tony
|
33.661 | He knew whan he was beat. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Thu Apr 30 1992 21:10 | 7 |
| On the subject our friend the Anorak man :-
He said after the R Cup final he would swap the R Cup for 3 points vs
Forest on Easter Monday, 'cause he knew his team would be jaded and
easy prey for Forest - he was right.
jb.
|
33.662 | Got the photos back from the Chelsea game :-) | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-2417 Leeds Champions | Fri May 01 1992 02:19 | 16 |
| I got the photos back from the game with Chelsea. they all came out well
including JB's ugly mug ;-). The best picture would have been me and Banana
but unfortunately it was taken at Strachans level thus meaning the half my
head is missing.
I also got conclusive proof that our second goal was offside. The offending
player was McAllister. How about that Man U fans. Another reason why Leeds
won the League. The ref/linesman went with us for once.
Re:: 32.something note about fixture congestion.
Leeds would have had at least 2 doubles in the early 70's only for a disasterous
pileup of fixtures. So no more wheeling out excuses like the F.A or the number
of fixtures beat us. We won it when it mattered, we had the bottle when it
counted. Man U folded plain and simple!
James.
|
33.663 | Lady Luck | MACNAS::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Old Game... | Fri May 01 1992 12:55 | 17 |
|
I reckon Lady Luck has smiled on Leeds this season , you
will never win anything if you haven't some kind of luck...
The Leeds team from the Don Revie era....
won 2 Championships and were runners up 5 times....
Based on the quality of that team they should have
won 5 Championships and 2 runners up prizes....
but it wasn't to be.......
If Leeds has any luck this season , it was a long time coming...
jm
|
33.664 | Almost the End. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri May 01 1992 13:24 | 23 |
33.665 | | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Fri May 01 1992 17:13 | 12 |
|
JB
Who do you reckon will be voted as Player Of The Year.
Do you reckon it will be Strachan this year?
S
|
33.666 | Strach - just. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri May 01 1992 17:25 | 6 |
| The whole team has played well, it's been a team effort. I'd give the
award to Strachan, with Batty/Dorigo/Lukic close behind.
Eric the Gaul would get the most exciting player award.
jb.
|
33.667 | Bite yer legs Norman!!!!! | WELSWS::CADD | The only way is up!!! | Fri May 01 1992 20:11 | 12 |
|
Jon,
I know that Norwich had planned a news conference for this morning,
have they actually sacked Dave Stringer ??.
That would be a slight downer on us tommorrow to play a team that
has just sacked their manager..they could have waited, inconsiderate
B@s%!*$s !!!!!!. (only joking ..) see you in the pub at 11.30 am
tomorow .
Paul....
|
33.668 | How many Francs??? | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Fri May 01 1992 20:16 | 8 |
|
BTW
Jon how much did Cantona actually sign for in the end ???
Paul..
|
33.669 | 900k | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri May 01 1992 20:31 | 9 |
33.670 | Stuck for Summat to do ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri May 01 1992 20:36 | 8 |
| Now the end is here, what are we all to do 'till the beginning of
August ? (Apart from getting digital out of its current state !)
There's the Euro Championship from Sweden, wondering who will sign for
whom and for how much, and Cricket. There will also be the small matter
of post-championship party 'oh dear my head hurts' hangovers, which
won't be a problem at Old Trafford on Sea will it?
jb.
|
33.671 | Weekend Report | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Tue May 05 1992 15:02 | 52 |
| Another meeting of the SC was held in the Imperial on Saturday. It was
packed, everybody was singing, and even cheering Jimmy Greaves on the
box - wearing a gaudy Champions T-Shirt. Manchester was asked if was
watching / listening several times (this was a common occurrence
throughout the weekend). Very raucous, great fun.
Elland Road was full by 2:10, I got there just as the teams were
coming out for the presentation - what an atmosphere !
The game itself was an anti-climax, there was no pressure other than to
win, and keep the unbeaten at home in the League record intact. Wallace
scored the winner on 25 - a run from the 1/2 way line, at and through
the Norwich defence, ending up in a Championship-style goal. Norwich
made a couple of efforts, stopped ably by Lukic - but the party was in
full swing.
The party carried on till the early hours in Leeds City Centre, the
place where my wife and self go was closed - not due to rowdiness, but
the Management felt that their regular customers would be put out by
the crush of people. The city centre was heaving, so we made do with a
trip to Bryans' in Headingley, where most of the Yorkshire Cricket Team
were, the other half were in the Three Horseshoes next door, whilst the
New Inn was spilling out onto Otley Road, the heaving mass 'singing'
Marching Altogether at the wrong speed and totally out of tune. The
directors of Tetleys, John Smith, Whitbread, Sam Smith, Sam Webster and
Timothy Taylor must have been dreaming of riches. I had already paid my
dues to Arthur Guinness at lunchtime.
Sunday dawned bright and sunny, the victory parade was due to start
from Elland Road at 10.30, which it did. Fans lined the whole route,
many deep, and used traffic lights, trees and anything to get a better
view. 50,000 were outside the Town Hall and Art Galley, another 100,000
were en route. The whole of Leeds centre stopped. There were a few
faints but no trouble whatsoever - Leeds United fans now know how to
behave themselves (apart from 100 or so from the West Stand on Saturday
- they came onto the pitch and were roundly booed by the rest of the
crowd, they eventually were removed).
The Civic Dignitaries did their thing, and the biggest cheer was for
the new Elland Road 'darling' - Eric Cantona, who said he loved
everybody and was very, very happy. The assembled throng then asked if
anybody in Manchester was watching.
Strachan announced he was retiring from International Football - his
back needs complete rest for a few months if he's going to last another
season. My view is that he will play most of next season's matches, but
not all 90 minutes. Other ins and outs may be Brian Deane and Lee Dixon
in , and Lee Chapman to Sheffield United.
jb.
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Goalscorers,
League F.A. R. cup Z.D.S. Tot
Chapman 16 4 20
Wallace 11 2 1 14
Speed 7 3 10
Hodge 7 7
Sterland 6 1 7
McAllistair 5 5
Strachan 4 4 Last 7 Sep!
Dorigo 3 3
Cantona 3 3
Batty 2 2
Shutt 1 1 2
Dorigo 2 2
Fairclough 2 2
Whyte 1 1
Whitlow 1 1
O.G.- 3 3
Kilcline Oldham
Keown Everton
Gayle Sheffield Utd
Total 74 0 11 1 86
Leeds did the double over four teams- Notts County
Luton
Chelsea
Sheffield Utd
Crystal Palace gave us just one point, Man Utd and Arsenal 2 each,
all the rest supplied at least three. We scored seven over two games
against Sheffield Wednesday, Southampton, Notts county and Sheffield
United; although United scored five in return.
And the bad news? I'm going to a @#$$%^& wedding on Charity Shield day!
Cheers
Dust {}_-_{}
( o o )
( % )
U
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33.673 | 1996 EC at Elland Rd ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Tue May 05 1992 17:43 | 16 |
| England have landed the 1996 European Championships, Elland Rd is one
of 4 grounds that rounds of the EC could be played, the others are
Goodison, StJames' park and Roker Park. The Sunderland/Newcastle
combination is dependent on a new ground being built and shared between
the Mags and the Makems, but this doesn't look likely, the fact that
the teams are floundering at the bottom of Div 2 doesn't help either.
Goodison has a good playing surface and facilities, but matches are
being played 30 or so miles away at Old Trafford. This leaves Elland Rd
as the favourite. Elland Rd is being turned into a 40,000 all seater
stadium, ready for the 1993-4 season. New Press and Changing rooms are
being provided this summer, and the new Banqueting suite has just
opened. Elland Rd is also situated next to the motorway network and has
ample parking and easy access.
jb.
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33.674 | | NEWOA::MORAN | Wey not likely!! | Tue May 05 1992 19:17 | 13 |
|
Why does floundering around at the foot of the 2nd division negate
Newcastle or Sunderland's right to host part of the EURO96 tournement?
St. James' needs a fair amount of work to make it a 40000 all-seater.
Capacity is currently at 31000 but what's Leeds? 33000? You obviously
need a fair amount of work done aswell.
Tell me why Elland Road is a better bet.
Cheers,
Tim
|
33.675 | If they get their act together ... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Tue May 05 1992 19:42 | 34 |
| St James' Park and Roker Park have been neglected in the past - the
last things directors want to do with money is spend it on improving
the lot of the spectator. There has been talk of building a Super
Stadium to be used by Newcastle and Sunderland, whether anything will
come of this is open to conjecture. Leeds are building a totally new
East Stand. with a capacity of some 14,000 (current capacity of the
Lowfields stand is 4,000), the stadium will be 40,000 all seater by
1994. The press and changing room facilities are being rebuilt over the
summer, there is a new Banqueting Suite just opened - all things needed
for high profile international games. These are things that have been
done / are ongoing / firm plans exist and contracts have been let,
rather than pipe dreams. The location of Elland Road also helps - it is
next to the Motorway system , and there is adequate parking space. Last
close season, the South East Corner (away support area) was totally
rebuilt and included in the South Stand.
Leeds were down in the basement of Div 2 3 seasons ago, but they picked
themselves up, put money where the mouth was and the result is
for all to see, a top class team playing in what will very soon be a
top-class stadium with facilities to boot.
St James' Park still has a lot of open terracing, plans for roofing it
have been present for years, but nothing has been done. Keegan is still
trying to get money for a decent team, a decent team will bring fans
back in / get to the Premier league / generate money for a decent
stadium (ditto for Sunderland). Keegan has being showing the right
attitude to the Board at Newcastle 'pay up or I go', Crosby can't do
that at Sunderland, so I can't see them doing much (apart from getting
soundly beaten on Saturday). If there is a new stadium in the TW area,
then I can see the EC 96 going there, but not to one of the existing
ramshackle grounds.
jb.
|
33.676 | excellent | MACNAS::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Old Game... | Tue May 05 1992 20:51 | 6 |
|
re .675
Excellent report
jm
|
33.677 | My interpretation of the seasons games! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-2417 Leeds Champions | Tue May 05 1992 21:06 | 85 |
| This is an extension of the list I put in earlier in the season. It needs only
a few crowds to have it complete. The goalscorers differ a little to the list
posted earlier.
My player of the year has to be Dorigo. He has played a blinder all season.
Strachan wasn't nearly as good as last season. He didn't score since last
September 7.
James.
Season record to date of Leeds United F.C in league and Cup competitions.
Date Team W-L F-T H-T Crowd Po Scorers
Tue 20 Aug NOTTINGHAM FOREST H W 1-0 1-0 29457 - McAllister
Sat 24 Aug SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY H D 1-1 0-0 30260 10 Hodge
Wed 28 Aug southampton a W 4-0 1-0 15862 4 Speed 2, Strachan 2 Pens.
Sat 31 Aug manchester United a D 1-1 1-0 43778 6 Chapman
Tue 3 Sep ARSENAL H D 2-2 0-1 29386 6 Strachan pen, Chapman
Sat 7 Sep MANCHESTER CITY H W 3-0 1-0 29986 4 Dorigo,Batty,Strachan pen.
Sat 14 Sep chelsea a W 1-0 0-0 23439 2 Shutt
Wed 18 Sep coventry City a D 0-0 0-0 15488 2 -
Sat 21 Sep LIVERPOOL H W 1-0 1-0 32917 2 Hodge
Sat 28 Sep norwich City a D 2-2 0-0 15828 2 Dorigo,Speed
Tue 1 Oct crystal Palace a L 0-1 0-0 18298 2 -
Sat 5 Oct SHEFFIELD UNITED H W 4-3 3-0 28362 2 Hodge 2, Sterland 2 pen.
Sat 19 Oct notts County a W 4-2 2-1 12964 2 Chapman,Hodge,Whyte,McAllister
Sat 26 Oct OLDHAM ATHLETIC H W 1-0 0-0 28199 1 O.G.
Sat 2 Nov wimbledon a D 0-0 0-0 9025 2 -
Sat 16 Nov QPR H W 2-0 0-0 27087 1 Sterland,Wallace
Sun 24 Nov aston Villa a W 4-1 1-0 23666 1 Wallace,Sterland,Chapman 2
Sat 30 Nov EVERTON H W 1-0 0-0 30043 1 Wallace
Sat 7 Dec luton Town a W 2-0 0-0 11550 1 Wallace,Speed.
Sat 14 Dec TOTTENHAM HOTSPURS H D 1-1 1-1 31404 1 Speed
Sun 22 Dec nottingham forest a D 0-0 0-0 27170 2 -
Thu 26 Dec SOUTHAMPTON H D 3-3 2-0 29053 2 Hodge 2,Speed.
Sun 29 Dec MANCHESTER UNITED H D 1-1 0-0 32638 2 Sterland pen.
Wed 1 Jan west ham a W 3-1 2-1 21766 1 Chapman 2,McAllister
Sun 12 Jan sheffield wednesday a W 6-1 3-1 32228 1 Chapman 3,Dorigo,Whitlow,Wallace
Sat 18 Jan CRYSTAL PALACE H D 1-1 1-1 27717 1 Fairclough
Sat 1 Feb NOTTS COUNTY H W 3-0 3-0 28231 1 Sterland,Batty,Wallace
Sat 8 Feb oldham a L 0-2 0-1 18409 2 -
Sun 23 Feb everton a D 1-1 1-1 19248 2 Shutt
Sat 29 Feb LUTON H W 2-0 0-0 28231 2 Cantona,Chapman
Tue 4 Mar ASTON VILLA H D 0-0 0-0 28896 2 -
Sat 7 Mar tottenham Hotspurs a W 3-1 1-0 27622 1 Wallace,Newsome,McAllister
Wed 11 Mar qpr a L 1-4 1-1 14641 1 Speed
Sat 14 Mar WIMBLEDON H W 5-1 3-0 26760 1 Chapman 3,Cantona,Wallace
Sun 22 Mar arsenal a D 1-1 0-0 27844 1 Chapman
Sat 28 Mar WEST HAM H D 0-0 0-0 31101 2 -
Sat 4 Apr manchester city a L 0-4 0-2 30239 2 -
Sat 11 Apr CHELSEA H W 3-0 0-0 31363 1 Wallace,Chapman,Cantona
Sat 18 Apr liverpool a D 0-0 0-0 ?? 1 -
Tue 21 Apr COVENTRY H W 2-0 0-0 ?? 1 Fairclough, McAllister
Sun 26 Apr sheffield united a W 3-2 1-1 ?? 1 Wallace, Newsome, O.G
Sat 2 May NORWICH H W 1-0 1-0 ?? 1 Wallace
Cup Competitions
Tue 24 Sep LC R2 L1 scunthorpe a D 0-0 0-0 8392 -
Tue 8 Oct LC R2 L2 SCUNTHORPE H W 3-0 0-0 14588 Sterland pen,Chapman,Speed
Tue 22 Oct ZDS R2 NOTTM FOREST H L 1-3 0-2 6145 Wallace
Tue 29 Oct LC R3 TRANMERE R. H W 3-1 0-0 18266 Chapman2,Shutt
Wed 4 Dec LC R4 everton a W 4-1 2-1 25467 Speed,Chapman,Wallace 2
Wed 8 Jan LC R5 MAN UTD H L 1-3 1-1 28886 Speed
Wed 15 Jan FA R3 MAN UTD H L 0-1 0-0 31819 -
Scorers
League Cup Total
Chapman 16 4 20
Wallace 11 3 14
Speed 7 2 9
Hodge 7 0 7
Sterland 6 1 7
McAllister 5 0 5
Strachan 4 0 4
Dorigo 3 0 3
Shutt 2 1 3
Cantona 3 0 3
Newsome 2 0 2
Fairclough 2 0 2
Batty 2 0 2
Whyte 1 0 1
Whitlow 1 0 1
O.G. 2 0 2
----- ----- -----
74 11 85
|
33.678 | | NEWOA::MORAN | Wey not likely!! | Tue May 05 1992 21:14 | 19 |
|
St. James' may be 'ramshackle' at either end of the ground, but the
stands that occupy the flanks are both modern, fairly aesthetic and have
good facilities. The new Milburn stand even has a financial advice
centre as well as a high class restaurant. This in itself is not
enough I know, but if the plans to upgrade the Gallowgate end (been in
place since the early 70's) and to build a new Leazes end stand (also
been in place for years) actually happen before 1996, then I think that
St. James's geographical location will give it the nod over Elland Road
(too central).
I also think the supporters in the region deserve it. They've endured
poor teams for a number of years and still the average crowd is around
23-34k. Fantastic crowds for the tournement will be a certainty. On a good
day Newcastle could fill Old Trafford quite easily.
Cheers,
Tim
|
33.679 | filling in a few gaps | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Wed May 06 1992 14:58 | 8 |
|
re: .677
Some of the missing attendences :
Liverpool A 37,186
COVENTRY H 26,582
Sheff Utd A 31,082
|
33.680 | Season Complete statistics | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-2417 Leeds Champions | Wed May 06 1992 17:24 | 83 |
| Just one more thing. Who gets league medals and who
doesn't.
Possibilities Cantona, McClelland, Shutt, Newsome??
Season record to date of Leeds United F.C in league and Cup competitions.
Date Team W-L F-T H-T Crowd Po Scorers
Tue 20 Aug NOTTINGHAM FOREST H W 1-0 1-0 29457 - McAllister
Sat 24 Aug SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY H D 1-1 0-0 30260 10 Hodge
Wed 28 Aug southampton a W 4-0 1-0 15862 4 Speed 2, Strachan 2 Pens.
Sat 31 Aug manchester United a D 1-1 1-0 43778 6 Chapman
Tue 3 Sep ARSENAL H D 2-2 0-1 29386 6 Strachan pen, Chapman
Sat 7 Sep MANCHESTER CITY H W 3-0 1-0 29986 4 Dorigo,Batty,Strachan pen.
Sat 14 Sep chelsea a W 1-0 0-0 23439 2 Shutt
Wed 18 Sep coventry City a D 0-0 0-0 15488 2 -
Sat 21 Sep LIVERPOOL H W 1-0 1-0 32917 2 Hodge
Sat 28 Sep norwich City a D 2-2 0-0 15828 2 Dorigo,Speed
Tue 1 Oct crystal Palace a L 0-1 0-0 18298 2 -
Sat 5 Oct SHEFFIELD UNITED H W 4-3 3-0 28362 2 Hodge 2, Sterland 2 pen.
Sat 19 Oct notts County a W 4-2 2-1 12964 2 Chapman,Hodge,Whyte,McAllister
Sat 26 Oct OLDHAM ATHLETIC H W 1-0 0-0 28199 1 O.G.
Sat 2 Nov wimbledon a D 0-0 0-0 9025 2 -
Sat 16 Nov QPR H W 2-0 0-0 27087 1 Sterland,Wallace
Sun 24 Nov aston Villa a W 4-1 1-0 23666 1 Wallace,Sterland,Chapman 2
Sat 30 Nov EVERTON H W 1-0 0-0 30043 1 Wallace
Sat 7 Dec luton Town a W 2-0 0-0 11550 1 Wallace,Speed.
Sat 14 Dec TOTTENHAM HOTSPURS H D 1-1 1-1 31404 1 Speed
Sun 22 Dec nottingham forest a D 0-0 0-0 27170 2 -
Thu 26 Dec SOUTHAMPTON H D 3-3 2-0 29053 2 Hodge 2,Speed.
Sun 29 Dec MANCHESTER UNITED H D 1-1 0-0 32638 2 Sterland pen.
Wed 1 Jan west ham a W 3-1 2-1 21766 1 Chapman 2,McAllister
Sun 12 Jan sheffield wednesday a W 6-1 3-1 32228 1 Chapman 3,Dorigo,Whitlow,Wallace
Sat 18 Jan CRYSTAL PALACE H D 1-1 1-1 27717 1 Fairclough
Sat 1 Feb NOTTS COUNTY H W 3-0 3-0 28231 1 Sterland,Batty,Wallace
Sat 8 Feb oldham a L 0-2 0-1 18409 2 -
Sun 23 Feb everton a D 1-1 1-1 19248 2 Shutt
Sat 29 Feb LUTON H W 2-0 0-0 28231 2 Cantona,Chapman
Tue 4 Mar ASTON VILLA H D 0-0 0-0 28896 2 -
Sat 7 Mar tottenham Hotspurs a W 3-1 1-0 27622 1 Wallace,Newsome,McAllister
Wed 11 Mar qpr a L 1-4 1-1 14641 1 Speed
Sat 14 Mar WIMBLEDON H W 5-1 3-0 26760 1 Chapman 3,Cantona,Wallace
Sun 22 Mar arsenal a D 1-1 0-0 27844 1 Chapman
Sat 28 Mar WEST HAM H D 0-0 0-0 31101 2 -
Sat 4 Apr manchester city a L 0-4 0-2 30239 2 -
Sat 11 Apr CHELSEA H W 3-0 0-0 31363 1 Wallace,Chapman,Cantona
Sat 18 Apr liverpool a D 0-0 0-0 37186 1 -
Tue 21 Apr COVENTRY H W 2-0 0-0 26582 1 Fairclough, McAllister
Sun 26 Apr sheffield united a W 3-2 1-1 31082 1 Wallace, Newsome, O.G
Sat 2 May NORWICH H W 1-0 1-0 32673 1 Wallace
Cup Competitions
Tue 24 Sep LC R2 L1 scunthorpe a D 0-0 0-0 8392 -
Tue 8 Oct LC R2 L2 SCUNTHORPE H W 3-0 0-0 14588 Sterland pen,Chapman,Speed
Tue 22 Oct ZDS R2 NOTTM FOREST H L 1-3 0-2 6145 Wallace
Tue 29 Oct LC R3 TRANMERE R. H W 3-1 0-0 18266 Chapman2,Shutt
Wed 4 Dec LC R4 everton a W 4-1 2-1 25467 Speed,Chapman,Wallace 2
Wed 8 Jan LC R5 MAN UTD H L 1-3 1-1 28886 Speed
Wed 15 Jan FA R3 MAN UTD H L 0-1 0-0 31819 -
Scorers
League Cup Total
Chapman 16 4 20
Wallace 11 3 14
Speed 7 2 9
Hodge 7 0 7
Sterland 6 1 7
McAllister 5 0 5
Strachan 4 0 4
Dorigo 3 0 3
Shutt 2 1 3
Cantona 3 0 3
Newsome 2 0 2
Fairclough 2 0 2
Batty 2 0 2
Whyte 1 0 1
Whitlow 1 0 1
O.G. 2 0 2
----- ----- -----
74 11 85
James.
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33.681 | Macker's got one | YUPPY::TAYLORM | | Wed May 06 1992 19:14 | 5 |
| Re. -1
According to my sources "Macker" has received his medal
Martin
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33.682 | 11 Get's You a Medal | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Wed May 06 1992 19:25 | 5 |
33.683 | Medal Mickey | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu May 07 1992 02:01 | 15 |
|
Got his medal and gone !!!.
Big John McClelland has been given a free transfer after receiving
his championship medal.
Mervyn Day and Chris Fairclough have not signed new contracts yet,
Mel Sterland has signed till 1993.
Keep you posted about any others
Paul....
|
33.684 | Is there more? | YUPPY::MCCABE | Mike | Thu May 07 1992 18:39 | 5 |
| Jon,
Lee Dixon to Leeds?
Mike M
|
33.685 | More speculation | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Thu May 07 1992 18:56 | 14 |
| Mike,
I've heard this (from the same source as V Jones to Sheff Utd), also
Deane in, part money and Lee Chapman to the Blades. John McClelland has
been given a free, he's done well in his time with Leeds, good luck to
him. A few reserve players (one is O'Dowd) haven't had their contracts
renewed. Fairclough and Day haven't signed yet, but are expected to
sign new 2 year contracts.
Batty and Dorigo are in the England squad, Speed in the Welsh and
McAllister in the Scottish and Eric of course in the French. Still a
long way to go before there are 11 fielded in the same team !
jb.
|
33.686 | Outs / Manager of Year / Big John | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri May 08 1992 13:08 | 17 |
| Other outs are :-
Tony O'Dowd, an Irish U-21 goalie, signed from Shelbourne
Chris Flear, ex YTS goalie
Steve Mulrain, a 19 year old striker, ex Leeds City Boys
Leonard Curtis, Itish u-21 International defender
Wilko is in London today, he is 'strongly tipped' to get the Manager of
the Year award, as well as the April award, he has also been invited to
Italy to take place in a 'European Coach of the Year' contest, but he
apparantley has family commitments then, ie he's on holiday.
John McClelland is hoping for another year in the Premier League, but
Wetherall, Newsome and Haddock will be back in contention
next season, so there wasn't a place for him.
jb.
|
33.687 | | NEWOA::MORAN | Wey not likely!! | Fri May 08 1992 14:00 | 7 |
|
I remeber seeing Peter Haddock 10 years or more ago at Newcastle and
I can't believe that he could have a part to play in your team now.
Not unless he's improved beyond all recognition or indeed is a different
Peter Haddock.
Tim
|
33.688 | Cod and Chips ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri May 08 1992 16:40 | 9 |
| re Haddock :-
He is the same peter Haddock, and he is a useful player. He missed all
this season just gone and a the end of the previous season due to
cruciate ligament problems. He might not be automatic starting line up
choice, but is a useful squad player, he was playing well up until his
injury, vs the mancs in the R Cup semi final 2nd leg.
jb.
|
33.689 | Some stats from the season. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-2417 Leeds Champions | Wed May 13 1992 13:22 | 45 |
| This season threw up some interesting statistics that we on this side of the
Atlantic take little notice of, but which the Americans in their sports take lots
of notice of.
What I mean are the statistics involving things such as penalties scored,
bookings conceded, goals scored in the first 5/last 5 minutes of a game and own
goals conceded.
Lets look at some teams performances on these counts.
Penalties
---------
Leeds scored 4 home 0 away = 4 total.
Winners Man City with a total of 7.
Losers Sheff Utd. with a total of 0.
Booking conceded
----------------
Leeds 11 home, 16 away, 1 sending off.
Winners Forest 7 home, 7 away, 0 sending off.
Losers Southampton 17 home, 30 away, 3 sending offs including Ruddock twice.
Losers Chelsea 4 sending offs.
Goals in the first 5 minutes
----------------------------
Leeds 1 goals.
Winners Wimbledon 5 goals.
Loters West Ham 0.
Goals in the last 5 minutes
---------------------------
Leeds 11 goals.
Winners Arsenal 14 goals.
Losers Wimbledon, Coventry 2 goals. Man U 4 goals. <-- no late surprises :-).
Own goals
---------
Leeds Conceded 1, got 3.
Winners Leeds, Forest.
Losers loads.
James.
Point of information an own goal put us top in October versus Oldham and an own
goal won us the league versus Sheff Utd. The season of the own goal?
|
33.690 | Confusing stats! | MACNAS::MJGREANEY | What's another year? | Wed May 13 1992 17:03 | 10 |
| RE:-1,
Bookings.
winners Forest????? 0 sending offs??????
Forest had 4 players sent off last season,Pearce,Clough,Tiler and
Laws!!
M.J.
|
33.691 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Wed May 13 1992 17:16 | 6 |
|
You are correct but weren't they in cup matches. Laws got sent
off against Pompey in the FA cup. The statistics are for League
games only.
JN.
|
33.692 | Clarification. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-2417 Leeds Champions | Wed May 13 1992 17:21 | 8 |
| RE:: .-2
MJ, You are right and wrong.
They had 2 players sent off according to the stats I have but had only 14 players
booked in the league, Pearce, Clough.
James.
|
33.693 | Sent off in the league | UPROAR::SHORESD | David Shores | Wed May 13 1992 17:22 | 8 |
|
RE sendings off.
Pearce and Clough got their marching orders against Spurs (Retaliation
for fouls on Keane ) and I think Tiler's was also a league sending off.
DavidS.
|
33.694 | "wanna be rich and ah wanna be famous" | YUPPY::OHAGANB | Give my regards to Sgt Fury | Wed May 13 1992 19:43 | 32 |
| <<< Note 210.26 by YUPPY::OHAGANB "Give my regards to Sgt Fury" >>>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> This man is showing his age. What was happening in 1975, apart from
> Alex Harvey singing the above ditty ?
Jon, posted here to keep the predictors content. Apart from A.H.
singing the above, was'nt 1975 the year Leeds lost the European
Cup to Bayern, the year of the "Cockney Cup Final" between West
'Am and Fullum, Derby winners of the League(?), and Keef getting
busted in Canada on drugs (could be '76)? The Mancs were'nt
exactly trailblazers at that time either. When did they go down
for a spell of SECOND DIVISION football? Actually I was still in
short trousers then. Don't scoff.
> -< Fantasy working overtime >-
^^^^^^^
> Or is this Senses ? eXTatiC eh ?
> jb.
I thought about using it. However, I figured fantasy reflects
better the notion of England winning the championship, however
nice it may seem.
barry.
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33.695 | Shang-a-lang. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Wed May 13 1992 19:59 | 22 |
| re last -
>Apart from A.H.
>singing the above, was'nt 1975 the year Leeds lost the European
>Cup to Bayern,
Yes. I had a ticket for the game in Paris, but as I was sitting my 1st
year exams at Leeds University I thought it would be better to do that
rather than go to Paris, just as well I didn't as it turned out.
That wonderful Manc team also got relegated for a spell of SECOND DIVISION
football in 1975 - they were relegated by City, Denis Law scoring the
winner.
>Actually I was still in short trousers then. Don't scoff.
- I was in 28" flares - but they kept getting wrapped round the
kickstart of my Trident and they wouldn't stuff into Motorcycle Boots.
Still got the Trident and to boots, flares were used as cloths.
jb.
|
33.696 | baaaa | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | | Wed May 13 1992 20:08 | 9 |
|
Jon,
>>>>- I was in 28" flares
28" flares were still being worn in Leeds up until 1985. Did you have a
3-star jumper aswell ?
Paul
|
33.697 | Wrong Year Chaps | ESSB::BLONG | Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92 | Wed May 13 1992 20:40 | 11 |
33.698 | Nostalgia ...... | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Wed May 13 1992 21:04 | 14 |
| re -2
Flares are *still* worn in Manchester. I didn't have a 3 star jumper, I
had an acrylic black red and white one (see above, they still make them
in Manchester for not-grown-up-yet BCR fans). Most of the time I had to
put up with a black Triumph T shirt, battered jeans and a Leather
Jacket, so there.
re -1
Brian, don't blind me with facts ! ;-)
Didn't that Manc team collapse rapidly !
jb.
|
33.699 | Lowfields Demolition. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Thu May 14 1992 13:40 | 10 |
| Moving on from Manc sartorial values :-
The Lowfields Road stand roof has been demolished, the diggers are set
to move in soon to take away the huge earth mound that the stand itself
is built on. The Lowfields terracing will remain whilst all this is in
progress, so the capacity will be limited to 30,500, down from 33,550.
The new East Stand should be ready at the end of the 1992-3 season, ie
1 year on from now.
jb.
|
33.700 | Double Scouse | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri May 15 1992 13:16 | 6 |
| There is a double helping of Liverpool in August :-
Sat 8 Aug - Charity Shield at Wembley
Tue 11 Aug - Jim Beglin Testimonial at Elland Road
jb.
|
33.701 | Who picked these teams then ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Mon May 18 1992 12:14 | 5 |
|
The Makita Tournament is starting to look good :
English League Champions, German League Champions, Cloughie ...
all we need now is for Sampdoria to beat Barcelona.
|
33.702 | C'mon the Jam-Tarts | MASALA::CPATRICK | Little Purple People Eaters | Mon May 18 1992 14:13 | 10 |
|
Heart Of Midlothian V Leeds United
Tynecastle Park 27th or 29th July..
John Robertson's testimonial match.
Be there or be square
SQF Jambo
|
33.703 | Snippets | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Tue May 26 1992 17:43 | 14 |
33.704 | More.. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Wed May 27 1992 13:46 | 20 |
| A Correction - only the 2 Lowfields floodlights are down.
The Lowfields stand has been razed to the ground, and the earth bank it
was built on is being dug away and dumped in an old quarry 1/2 mile
from the Digital Horsforth office.
Daniel Yorath, son of ex-Leeds player Terry, aged 15 collapsed and died
at his home in Leeds on Monday night. He was kicking a football around
in his back garden. Daniel had just signed on as a Leeds United
apprentice.
The FA are allowing leeds only 15,000 tickets for the Charity Shield -
Leeds want at least 25,000.
The sale of TV rights for the European Cup games will go ahead once the
dust has settled from the BSkyB / ITV bickerings.
There are reports in some papers that Batty is to sign for Lazio.
jb.
|
33.705 | Little bit more ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Thu May 28 1992 10:28 | 16 |
|
Batty to Lazio ! Hopefully this rumour can be added to the
"Batty to Liverpool, Beardsley to Leeds; Sterland to Liverpool;
McAllister to Rangers" collection of journalists filling column
inches when nothing else is happening. Presumably he is still under
contract anyway.
There has been a fair bit of comment about Ned Zelic being chased
by Leeds over here (Zelic scored the 2 Aussie goals that knocked
Holland out of the Olympics this week - he looks quite good as
well). Apparently Leeds tried to buy him for 150,000 pounds 18 months
ago. If they go for him now he'll cost a lot more.
I can't see why we would want Waddle, Zelic would be a good buy for
the centre of defence which will need strengthening for the European
Cup.
|
33.706 | Manc Shock / Programmes | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri May 29 1992 13:11 | 25 |
| Got the 'Champions' video yesterday. It appears there was a cock up in
1 batch - the Leeds 'Champions' were mixed up with the Mancs - this
caused distress and upset, imagine sitting down to watch 80 minutes of
Leeds United winning the title only to be confronted with ther Losers
from Old Trafford .........
Wilko gets back from his hols today, expect the xfer rumours and
wheeling & dealing to start soon.
I have some spare Leeds Programmes :-
24 Aug 91 Sheff Wed
9 Aug 91 Botafogo Friendly x2
10 Apr 91 Man City x2
2 Apr 91 Sunderland
19 Mar 91 Everton ZDS Cup
22 Jan 91 Derby ZDS Cup x2
19 Jan 91 Luton x2
16 Dec 90 Everton
1 Sep 90 Norwich
6 Jan 90 Ipswich FAC
Send me mail if you're interested.
jb.
|
33.707 | What the French think of the Cantona-Leeds connection, with permission! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Fri May 29 1992 17:04 | 125 |
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From: gburnage@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Ooh Aah Cantona)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Leeds fou de Cantona
Message-ID: <1992May21.194529.6166@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
Date: 21 May 92 18:45:29 GMT
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A couple of weeks back, ill in bed with flu just after Leeds won the title
(too much celebrating may well have brought it on), I got hold of a copy of
the French national daily sports paper L'Equipe to see what they had to say
about Leeds & Cantona. Below there is an extract (largely the man's own
words) from the article, with my dodgy translation alongside it. The upshot
is that Leeds loves Eric and Eric loves Leeds, and that from now on he never
wants to play football anywhere other than England.
Also many thanks to those who replied to my Canto-query the other week:
John Rodriguez, Eric Debeau, Eric Tome, and Francois at Stanford.
It was much appreciated.
Gavin
gburnage@vax.ox.ac.uk
====
LEEDS FOU DE CANTONA LEEDS MAD ABOUT CANTONA
Adule au-dela de l'imaginable par Adored beyond belief by Leeds
les supporteurs de Leeds, Eric vit fans, Eric is having the time of
ses plus beaux moments de his footballing life. It's a story
footballeur. Histoire d'un coup de of mutual love at first sight.
foudre reciproque.
<<Jamais dans l'histoire du club un "Never in the history of the club
joueur, meme anglais, n'a ete aussi has any player, even an English
rapidement adopte par le public>>, one, been taken to so quickly by
raconte Norman Hunter, l'un des the public", says Norman Hunter,
heros du Leeds des annees 70s. one of the heros from the Leeds of
Aujourd'hui reporter a la BBC the 1970s. Today a reporter on BBC
radio, Norman n'en revient pas: radio, Norman can't get over it:
<<Les gens du Yorkshire sont plutot "The people of Yorkshire are rather
mefiants, d'ordinaire. Je crois distrustful, normally. I think that
qu'avec son talent et des qualites with his talent and technical
techniques qu'on ne rencontre que qualities found only rarely in our
rarement dans notre football, il a game, he's won the crowds over."
conquis les foules.>>
Barry Davies, le Charles Bietry de Barry Davies, the Charles Bietry of
la tele anglasie, depasse le cadre British tv, looks beyond the Leeds
de Leeds et tente d'analyser le scene and tries to analyse the
phenomene Cantona: <<Depuis Oswaldo Cantona phenonenon: "No foreigner
Ardiles a Tottenham, jamais un since Oswaldo Ardiles has ever
etranger n'a recu un tel acceuil. received such a welcome. What makes
Ce que reussit Eric est une sacree Eric a success is one hell of a
performance. Les gens ont tout de performance. People immediately
suite aime ce garcon. Pour sa liked this lad. For his technique,
technique, mais surtout pour sa but above all for his reputation.
reputation. Tant qu'elle ne nuit So long as it doesn't damage the
pas au club, elle genere autour de club, it generates something of a
lui comme un mythe.>> Leeds aime myth around him. Leeds likes
les rebelles. rebels.
En echo, <<Canto>>, serein et Echoing that, "Canto", peaceful and
heureux comme il avoue ne jamais happy in a way he swears he's never
l'avoir ete jusque-la, renvoie les been till now, returns the
compliments: <<Les gens sont compliments: "Here, the people are
different, ici. Je les aime. Il different. I like them. They live
vivent et pensent comme moi. Pour and think like me. To them, I'm a
eux, je suis un etre normal. En normal person. In France, I'm
France, en me prend pour quelqu'un thought of as someone exceptional,
d'extraordinaire, mais la on me but here they let me get on with my
laisse vivre ma vie. J'ai trouve life. I've found my psychological
mon equilibre psychique et and physical balance. What's more,
physique. D'ailleurs, je ne I'll never again play football
rejouerai plus jamais au foot en outside England.
dehors de l'Angleterre.
Je vis de tres grands moments ici. I'm thriving on the big-time
Et je suis moi-meme. Tous les moments here. And I'm myself. Every
samedis, je suis excite a l'idee de Saturday, I'm excited about the
jouer. L'atmosphere dans les stades idea of playing. The feel in the
est unique. Ici, on ne joue que de stadiums is unique. Here, they only
grandes matches. Dans cette play big matches. In this
ambiance, on a encore plus envie de atmosphere, you want more than ever
donner le maximum. Moi qui suis to give it everything. I'm
hyper-sensible aux bonnes comme aux hyper-sensitive to emotions both
mauvaises emotions, je m'eclate. Je good and bad, and I'm having a
vis la plus belle periode de ma great time. I'm having the time of
vie. En France, des que j'ai ete my life. In France, after the media
mediatise, j'ai connu de mauvais were on to me, I got it bad. They
moments. On a raconte des conneries talked crap about me. There was
sur moi. J'en ai fait, certes, mais something in it, of course, but
on a tout exagere. Je n'en veux pas they exaggerated everything. I
specialement a la presse, qui m'a haven't really got it in for the
aussi aide, mais surtout aux gens press -- they helped me as well --
de football, qui ont profite de ma but I definitely have for the
notoriete pour se faire de la pub football people who took advantage
et avoir leur nom dans les of my notoriety to get themselves
journaux. C'est degueulasse!>> some publicity and have their name
in the papers. It's disgusting!"
Ca, c'etait hier. Aujourd'hui, Eric That was yesterday. Today, Eric has
a retrouve la joie de jouer ... il rediscovered the joys of playing
s'est adapte au jeu anglais, ... he's adapted to the English
mettant son intelligence au service game, putting his intelligence to
de son football. ... En trois mois the service of his football. ... In
et demi, Howard Wilkinson a relance three and a half months, Howard
un footballeur qu'on croyait perdu Wilkinson has relaunched a
a jamais. A coups de 20 minutes par footballer who was thought to be
match. <<Si je l'avais fait jouer lost for good. In bursts of 20
d'entree chaque fois, je l'aurais minutes a match. "If I'd started
peut-etre brule. Le football him each time, I might have burnt
anglais et si particulier et si him out. English football is so
rapide.>> Howard est un sage et les distinctive and so fast." Howard is
resultats plaident pour lui. Il a wise man and results speak for
sait que pour Eric le plus dur him. He knows that for Eric the
commence. hardest is beginning.
L'Equipe, Lundi 4 Mai 1992 L'Equipe, Monday 4 May 1992
==
|
33.708 | Crowds | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Mon Jun 01 1992 13:31 | 6 |
| Leeds finished last season with an average home gate of 29,050, the 5th
highest. The Mancs, Liverpool, The Arse and Sheff Wed had more. Elland
Road's capacity is 33,000, so that is a filling factor of around 88%.
The average gate was 500 up on the season before.
jb.
|
33.709 | | NEWOA::MORAN | Wey not likely!! | Mon Jun 01 1992 16:10 | 2 |
|
Has Waddle signed for you?
|
33.710 | Not yet (hope he doesn't!) | FORTY2::ASH | Grahame Ash @REO | Mon Jun 01 1992 19:08 | 3 |
| According to Ceefax, no decision until he gets back from holiday.
g
|
33.711 | Not yet. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Mon Jun 01 1992 20:44 | 4 |
| There are rumours of a 950,000 move, with him on 4,000 aweek, but
nothing has been signed yet.
jb.
|
33.712 | Waddle good or bad | MACNAS::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Old Game... | Tue Jun 02 1992 20:47 | 6 |
|
Will Chris Waddle be a good buy for Leeds.....
Where will he play..left wing , right wing or up front....
jm
|
33.713 | Waddle for Europe ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Wed Jun 03 1992 03:48 | 11 |
|
I think Waddle is a buy for the European Cup games, Chapman will
be a bit out of his class against teams like AC Milan so I reckon
HW will play Wallace, Waddle and Cantona up front for those games
and rely on McAllister and Speed to come up to support them.
Talking of AC Milan, I hope we avoid them in the draw. They showed
their final league game over here on Sunday against Foggia away.
2-1 down at half-time they won 8-2, it would have been more but the
home fans invaded the pitch in the 87th minute after the 8th goal
and the ref called it a day !
|
33.714 | Waddle's ok | MOEUR3::SMITH | | Wed Jun 03 1992 10:49 | 15 |
|
re : .712
I'm finally going to reply to one of these notes! I'm not a Man. Utd,
Leeds, Arsenal or Liverpool supporter (yes there are some of us out
here!). Currently living and working in France, but English thru and
thru.
Waddle MUST be a good buy for Leeds, he's had some bad stick from
people in this conference recently, but having watched him play for
Marseilles this season several times (French tele likes Marseilles and
Monaco, like English tele likes Liverpool and Man Utd), he's in good
shape. I'd have picked him for the England squad in Sweden.
Ian
|
33.715 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Wed Jun 03 1992 14:02 | 7 |
|
Re :-1.
I feel too that Waddle should be in the squad for Sweden but
Taylor thinks he's a wanka. Obviously a personal thing.
JN.
|
33.716 | Just when you thought it was safe... | XSTACY::PATTISON | Part-orange liquid competition | Wed Jun 03 1992 17:14 | 6 |
|
Re: 33.637
could also have been
Harassed policemen at Elland Road (5,3,9)
|
33.717 | Waddle will sign for Leeds and he is worth it !!
Waddle will sign for Leeds, its a good buy for sure !!
| PLUNDR::LOWEG | Don't believe a word | Wed Jun 03 1992 19:12 | 15 |
|
I was out on site up here in Newcastle where Chris Waddle's wife's
best friend works and she was saying that Chris was going to sign
for Sheff Wed. However, Leeds came in with a late bid which Waddle
is thinking over. My money is on Chris Waddle signing for Leeds
ahead of Sheff Wed as Leeds is only about an hour up the road from
Newcastle..
Plus an earlier note questioned his value, I saw him play in a
testimonial recently at St James's Park and he was outstanding
and definately worth a place in the England line up on current
form. Its just a pity he has seemed to rule out a return to Newcastle
to play..
Gary..
|
33.718 | | NEWOA::MORAN | Wey not likely!! | Wed Jun 03 1992 19:42 | 9 |
| re -1
>> .................. as Leeds is only about an hour up the road from
>> Newcastle.
Sure, if you drive at an average speed of 92mph. Given the state of the
A1, I wouldn't want to do that journey (twice) on a daily basis.
Tim
|
33.719 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Wed Jun 03 1992 19:55 | 13 |
|
Does he really want to play in the new Division One instead
of the Premier League ? I doubt it. Anyway his personal terms
are quite high. Would Newcastle have been able to meet these
demands ? I doubt it.
He needs and wants to play Premier Division football. He obviously
feels he should be playing for England and Premier Division will
give him the exposure he wants.
It'll be interesting to see him go to Leeds.
JN.
|
33.720 | | PLUNDR::LOWEG | Don't believe a word | Wed Jun 03 1992 21:10 | 15 |
|
I believe that Waddle would have come back to St James's and that the
money would have been found from somewhere, but, Chris wanted to be
involved on the coaching staff as well probably for a foot in the
door into management. This part of the deal wasn't available to
Waddle at St James's and consequently he started to look at the
offers made by the premier league clubs and Leeds I think are
favourites..
Gary..
PS. I think Leeds would let Mr Waddle out early to avoid the rush
hour traffic. So just over an hour away isn't that far away
Tim..
|
33.721 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | | Wed Jun 03 1992 21:27 | 10 |
|
I doubt it Gary - the only reason he'd go to Newcastle is if he thought
he was coming towards the end of his career and wanted the money, but
not the pressure of playing at the top level - a bit like Lineker's
decision to go to Japan (second rate league, out in the wilderness, no
chance of resurrecting his England career ete etc)
:-)
Paul
|
33.722 | Waddling about. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Thu Jun 04 1992 14:33 | 7 |
| If the price is right, then Waddle would be a good addition -
especially for European games. No further news regarding xfers. The
draw for the European Cup will be made on 16 July.
Anybody know when the Premier League fixtures are published ?
jb.
|
33.723 | Telly Cup | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Thu Jun 04 1992 17:29 | 12 |
| Leeds have signed a million plus deal with ITV to show the 1st 2 rounds
of the European Cup ties vs X any Y (provided X get beaten). After
that, UEFA organises the TV. The Sgt. Peppers' have arranged a similar
deal in the UEFA Cup with ITV.
Monday night footie is still on, but teams that have a midweek Cup game
won't have to play on a Monday night.
Leeds are not entering the ZDS Cup this year, I'm surprised it's still
there.
jb.
|
33.724 | OOOH AAH CANTONA | JGODCL::SHERLOCK | L.U.F.C. The phoenix has risen | Fri Jun 05 1992 17:31 | 4 |
| Does anyone know if Cantona is in tonight's line up for the friendly
against Holland ?
Tim
|
33.725 | | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Fri Jun 05 1992 20:28 | 25 |
|
Tim,
As far i know yes he is according to the clubcall yesterday.
Where will your loyalties be for that match with you being a Leeds
fan living in Holland ??.
For the European games Leeds are asking you to be a member of the
Leeds European travel club plus a premier card holder before you can
get tickets. Bond holders will get first option to buy, followed by
season ticket holders followed by premier card holders followed by open
sale (long winded or what??).
Renewal of season tickets have to be returned by 13-jun-1992
to get the same place as last year if you want it.
Peter Haddock has signed a 1 year contract, McClelland has had
interest show by 2 first div clubs and one premier club for his
services.
Paul...
|
33.726 | I can see for miles | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Mon Jun 08 1992 19:30 | 5 |
| The Lowfields mound is no more - it is now possible to see right into
the ground from the M621. Piles are being driven in to support the new
East Stand, steelwork should be up in a few weeks.
jb.
|
33.727 | | IOSG::PAGED | Mr Meena | Wed Jun 10 1992 14:01 | 1 |
| Word has it that Leeds have signed Chris Waddle. Is this true ?
|
33.728 | wye aye man.... I think.. | PLUNDR::LOWEG | Don't believe a word | Wed Jun 10 1992 16:04 | 5 |
|
On sky last night it said they were well into the negotiations, so I
would put money on it..
Gary..
|
33.729 | | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Jun 11 1992 01:28 | 17 |
|
Although the Marseille general manager was reported as saying that
Waddle would 'most likely' join Leeds, Waddles' personal manager said
that Waddle had not decided yet and that he would not do so until he
returned from holiday on saturday. He has had offers in from Sheff Weds
, Crystal Palace and Leeds. It is best in situations like these not to
jump the gun i'll believe it when i see it.
BTW Thought that Cantona had a relatively good game last night and
was unlucky to get booked for nearly dismembering someones wedding
tackle....
Paul.....
|
33.730 | Swedes. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Mon Jun 15 1992 15:37 | 8 |
| So far, 3 Leeds players have had outings in Sweden, Gary Mac, Batts and
Eric the Gaul, all 3 of them have played reasonably. It is hoped that
the antics of certain 'fans' in Malmo will not put paid to Leeds'
European return next season. As usual, a few idiots spoil it for
everybody else, what's the betting that the Rat Pack bought a lot of
booze for these idiots so they would get a good story ?
jb.
|
33.731 | Heavy! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Jun 15 1992 16:02 | 18 |
| JB,
Isn't it a bit extreme to say that the rat pack brought the beer so that they
could disgrace some of their own. All I can say is that will they ever learn
that you can dress some people up and never take them out or as we say in this
part of the world you can take the man out of the bog but never can you take the
bog out of the man.
On another subject did Leeds youths win their league? The day I was over they
were winning by 5-7 points but some crowd like Barnsley have 3-4 games in hand
and could pass them out.
Saw a fairly caustic article in the Sunday Times yesterday about Venables passing
up on Waddle ( a proven player ) and plumping for an unknown for nearly twice as
much, Anderton??. For a million you can hardly go wrong and Wilko makes few
mistakes in the transfer market :-).
James.
|
33.732 | Lunchtime O'Booze. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Mon Jun 15 1992 17:15 | 10 |
| James,
I think that the Press could have got some of them drunk - I wouldn't
put anything past them. No violence = no news = no justification for
being there. Sad but true.
No excuse for the behaviour though - confiscating passports of known
troublemakers might work, but would that be the thin end of the wedge ?
jb.
|
33.733 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Jun 15 1992 17:25 | 10 |
|
In Italy during the World cup the press, both tabloid and TV,
were actually paying money to known trouble makers to cause
aggro.
In answer to the note a few behind this one is that NO it is
not too extreme to suggest that people are being rewarded with
booze or money to give them a story. It happens.
JN.
|
33.734 | | TRUCKS::SANT | lurching from disaster to apocalypse.. | Mon Jun 15 1992 17:35 | 6 |
|
Quite right, Jeff. Have you read Pete Davies' All Played Out?
Some enlightening "inside" info, eh?
Andy.
|
33.735 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Jun 15 1992 17:45 | 22 |
|
Andy.
Yes I read it about a year ago which reminds me I must get
it back from a mate I lent it too as I want to read it again.
It was real fly on the wall stuff and it didn't contain any
bullshit. The interviews with the players was repeated as they
had said it. When people always question Barnes ability to
produce at international level I say go read this book as it tells
you why he doesn't. Well he doesn't now anyway 'cos he is injured.
I couldn't put the book down it was that good. When Pete Davis
re-lived the Germany V England game I was sitting there with tears
in my eyes as I remember feeling the same emotions as he felt while
at the game, yet he was watching it live and I watched it on the box.
Great book.
JN.
|
33.736 | What happened? | SALES::THILL | | Mon Jun 15 1992 18:37 | 17 |
| What exactly happened with the hooliganism? The only info we got in
the US was on the 6:00 news, where they showed people throwing chairs
and rocks at police, and a fire. They said that it errupted when
Swedish police couldn't convice English supporters to come down fom the
roof of a beer stand.
The thing that I find most disturbing is that that was the only glimpse
of news here in the US. No mention of the score of the game! Hooligan
problems are the only time we even get any news. From the fact that this
conference is not going on to great lengths talking about it, it seems
like it was somewhat minor, compared to previous incidents. For a sport
that faces an uphill battle in the US, the average person here must
think that sort of thing happens all the time. In fact, I know some
people that didn't go because they thought this sort of thing would
happen at the recent US Cup friendlies, which none did.
Disgusted of Boston
|
33.737 | Saturday Night Fever / Sunday Morning Nightmare ! | BAHTAT::LZOP01::blythe | Leeds United - Champions 91-92 | Mon Jun 15 1992 18:46 | 6 |
| re Swedish aggro :-
The police said it was no worse than a normal Saturday night brawl, but as
it was Football related, it got blown up.
jb.
|
33.738 | It figures.... | SALES::THILL | | Mon Jun 15 1992 20:04 | 8 |
| re -1
That was the impression I got. It's just a shame that the US media
reported that aspect, when it really was blown out of proportion. I
guess what got to me is that the papers didn't even give the score of
France-England,and I expected them to at least give the result as a
tag-line to the hooligan story.
Tom
|
33.739 | Waddle Toddles Off | ESSB::BLONG | Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92 | Wed Jun 24 1992 19:24 | 9 |
33.740 | Nothing has been decided. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Wed Jun 24 1992 19:37 | 9 |
| <<< Note 33.739 by ESSB::BLONG "Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92" >>>
-< Waddle Toddles Off >-
** He says that Leeds have no chance of winning the european cup and
They've got a bigger chance of winning it than the Sgt. Peppers'
"Twenty Five and Rising".
jb.
|
33.741 | Is Waddle gone to Wednesday? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Jun 29 1992 14:21 | 9 |
| Looks like its Leeds 1 Wednesday 1 on the transfer scene.
Scorers are Leeds (Cantona) Wednesday (Waddle).
Why isn't Waddle coming to Leeds? A bit too hot for his liking? Or
else he isn't a real man :*). Would have been nice having him shore up our
midfield but then you're either 100% behind Wilko or else you're out!
James.
|
33.742 | Working Holiday??? | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Mon Jun 29 1992 15:30 | 20 |
|
We have been put into the European cup as unseeded which makes the
possibility of meeting one of the big guns, A.C. Milan, Barcelona et al
a little sooner in the competition. Big Jack was reported as saying it
would have been better for us to be seeded to get a couple of games
under our belt and a chance of getting to the mini-league more
possible.
Peter Haddock has still got problems with his Knee after a few
operations after the game against Man U some 18 months ago.
Wilko is back from his holiday in Portugal this week so maybe we will
see a bit more movement on the transfer market. Wilko is not the sort
of manager to leave his buying of players till late in the day as he
likes to get the players in early after the close of season and
training with the other players.
Paul...
|
33.743 | News | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Tue Jun 30 1992 13:28 | 13 |
| John McClelland has joined StJohnstone as player coach.
Players return for training on 2nd July, Wilko gets back from his
holidays on 6 July - expect the transfers to start then. Latest
speculation surrounds Scott Sellars, out of contract at Blackburn. SS
was sold by Billy Bremner for 20,000 6 years ago, Leeds United will get
25% of any fee on a subsequent transfer.
July 15 sees the European Cup Draw, Leeds are unseeded and could draw
anyone.
The fixtures are with the clubs, they are out on Wed lunchtime, I'll
put them in then (assuming I'm still around, it's the TCC Cull today,
apparently Digital doesn't need technical expertise anymore)
jb.
|
33.744 | Fixtures, 1992-1993 | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Wed Jul 01 1992 19:20 | 48 |
| Leeds United, 1992-1993 Fixtures to Cut Out and Keep.
(HOME) (Away)
Sat 15 Aug WIMBLEDON
Wed 19 Aug Aston Villa
Sat 22 Aug Middlesborough
Tue 25 Aug TOTTENHAM
Sat 29 Aug LIVERPOOL
Tue 1 Sep Oldham
Sat 5 Sep Manchester United
Sat 12 Sep ASTON VILLA
Sat 19 Sep Southampton
Sat 26 Sep EVERTON
Sat 3 Oct Ipswich
Sat 17 Oct SHEFFIELD UNITED
Sat 24 Oct Queens' Park Rangers
Sat 31 Oct COVENTRY
Sat 7 Nov Manchester City
Sat 21 Nov ARSENAL
Sat 28 Nov Chelsea
Sat 5 Dec NOTTINGHAM FOREST
Sat 12 Dec SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY
Sat 19 Dec Crystal Palace
Sat 26 Dec Blackburn Rovers
Mon 28 Dec NORWICH CITY
Sat 9 Jan SOUTHAMPTON
Sat 16 Jan Everton
Tue 26 Jan Liverpool
Sat 30 Jan MIDDLESBOROUGH
Sat 6 Feb Wimbledon
Tue 9 Feb MANCHESTER UNITED
Sat 13 Feb OLDHAM
Sat 20 Feb Tottenham
Sat 27 Feb IPSWICH TOWN
Sat 6 Mar Sheffield United
Tue 9 Mar Arsenal
Sat 13 Mar MANCHESTER CITY
Sat 20 Mar Nottingham Forest
Tue 23 Mar CHELSEA
Sat 3 Apr Sheffield Wednesday
Sat 10 Apr BLACKBURN
Mon 12 Apr Norwich
Sat 17 Apr CRYSTAL PALACE
Sat 1 May QUEENS' PARK RANGERS
Sat 8 May Coventry
jb.
|
33.745 | Boohoo, I wanted the Wombles | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Wed Jul 01 1992 19:44 | 7 |
| I see you have two Monday games scheduled and they're both against
Norwich - cancel my Skysport application ;-)
I'm also peeved to note that your first fixture is Wimbledon. I was
hoping we would get them away as the first fixture as we did in 88-89
and 90-91 as an omen of continuing the championship every second year
sequence.
|
33.746 | Holidays - like the long one I'm going to start. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Wed Jul 01 1992 19:58 | 5 |
| The 2 Norwich Mondays are Holiday games - Xmas and Easter. BSkyB hasn't
started to muck around with our fixtures - yet.
jb.
|
33.747 | Damn they've got Coventry away! | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | DEC Mail Works for ME sometimes | Wed Jul 01 1992 20:40 | 13 |
| JB,
well it looks like you have the league title already wrapped up...
(and I say this as a LIverpool supporter)
because you finish the season away at Coventry which just happened
to see the league champions 2 of the last 3 seasons.
(who saw the 1990 6-0 or whatever game)
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
33.748 | On the final straight. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri Jul 03 1992 16:53 | 7 |
33.749 | Teyy Interference | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Mon Jul 06 1992 14:55 | 11 |
| BSkyB wanted to show the Leeds-Wombles game on Sunday 16 Aug, but as
there is a Micheal Jackson concert at Roundhay Park that day / a cycle
race in Leeds City Centre, the Police have said No.
The Man U v Leeds and Leeds v Villa games in September are live, on the
Sunday.
No Mondays, and on the box twice till Xmas. The Scousers are on 5
times.
jb.
|
33.750 | News / I'm off. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Mon Jul 06 1992 18:08 | 16 |
|
Playes reported back to Elland Road today for pre-season training,
apart from Batty, Dorigo, McAllister and Cantona, thy some back next
week. Season ticket sales are 'brisk', totay is the first day of public
selling.
My Redundancy proposal has been accepted, so I'm off. My last official
day is 13th July, so my last day in here will be before then. This
notesfile has been one of the (many) good things about Digital, Digital
still has good products and great people, but some of the Management
leaves an awful lot to be disired (in Yorkspeak - utter crap).
Ah'll sithee,
Jon Blythe.
|
33.751 | Good luck | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Mon Jul 06 1992 18:35 | 7 |
| Jon,
Your noting will be missed. A true football reporter and supporter.
Good luck in what ever you are doing in the future.
Brian
|
33.752 | Best of Luck Jon.... | MACNAS::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Old Game... | Mon Jul 06 1992 20:06 | 9 |
|
Best of Luck Jon....
Your contributions have always been first class....
You will be missed by all true football fans...
I hope you always enjoy supporting Leeds......
jm
|
33.753 | Good luck | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Mon Jul 06 1992 22:27 | 4 |
|
Best of luck Jon. I'll miss your match reports.
Gary.
|
33.754 | So long, Farewell... | ZPOVC::KUMAR | | Tue Jul 07 1992 05:07 | 8 |
| Good Luck Jon. I'll miss your match reports too. Nothing like the ol'
Leeds-Liverpool rivalry.
I hope the 'Pool stuff the Leeds on Charity Shield Day. :-)
Best Regards,
Kumar
|
33.755 | Good Luck Jon | ESSB::BLONG | Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92 | Tue Jul 07 1992 13:11 | 6 |
33.756 | | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Tue Jul 07 1992 13:18 | 10 |
|
Jon,
As a Leeds fan stuck in Reading your notes have been an invaluable way
of getting information about the team. This will be greatly missed!
Thanks for the notes and good luck for the future.
Shafiq.
|
33.757 | farewell to a fellow yorkshireman | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | We're not worthy! | Tue Jul 07 1992 13:24 | 7 |
|
All the best Jon, this conference has lost one of its finest noters and
a true football fan. At least you had the chance to enjoy your team
winning the championship whilst noting in here!
Best of luck in whatever you choose to do,
Ian.
|
33.758 | Sorry to see you go jb. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Tue Jul 07 1992 13:43 | 10 |
| jb,
Over the past year you have provided many valuable tibbits of information about
the greatest club in the Universe which would either not appear in the paper
or only appeared in the local rags to this notesfile. You took time off to type
in lllooonnnggg notes which were always read as they were concise and
entertaining. We in the football notes community have lost a true servant to the
cause. Long live the cause. Sorry to see you go jb :*(. Good luck!
James.
|
33.759 | Its an 88 special with automatic doors | YUPPY::PANES | Do it, Fruitbat | Tue Jul 07 1992 14:27 | 8 |
| Jb,
All the best. I hope to see you in the '96 Olympics, where Manc baiting
will be an exhibition event.
Aye oop,
Stuart
|
33.760 | All the best... | KBOMFG::KOEPPE | | Tue Jul 07 1992 15:43 | 9 |
| Hi Jon,
I always enjoyed your comments regardless the topic and you surely
will leave a big gap in this conference.
I'm proud that I had the possibility of meeting you personally
(Jul-89, CDD/Plus Support Course, Highfield Park). ;-) :-)
Best wishes for the future
Eduard
|
33.761 | WHAT ARE YOU, MEN OR MICE.. | PEKING::BAREFIELDA | | Tue Jul 07 1992 15:51 | 6 |
|
Whats all this goodbye rubbish, put your hankies away and start talking
football..
ANDY.B
|
33.762 | no justice in this world? | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | We're not worthy! | Tue Jul 07 1992 16:12 | 6 |
33.763 | and another | FORTY2::ASH | Grahame Ash @REO | Tue Jul 07 1992 16:22 | 4 |
| All the best, Jon. This conf needs more supporters like you and Reading Jeff,
not less. (Must be nice to spend the money on a European Cup tour though!!)
grahame
|
33.764 | | NEWOA::MORAN | Wey not likely!! | Tue Jul 07 1992 16:25 | 13 |
|
All the best jb. I hope you find something suitable (better) asap.
Have you looked at the jobs available at Newbury?
re .761,
Andy, I'm sure you're a nice person really and not the prat you pretend
to be.
Tim
|
33.765 | | BLKPUD::WATTY::WATTERSONP | | Tue Jul 07 1992 16:28 | 7 |
|
Yeh shut up Andy.... :-)
All the best jb - this conference will be poorer without your slightly
biased but well informed notes.
Paul
|
33.766 | For the record, JB !! | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Tue Jul 07 1992 17:14 | 17 |
|
First, and foremost, I heartily agree with all the "best wishes, your
notes will be missed..." OK JB ?
Note 761 got the response it deserved (maybe wanted ? :-) ). The man
does have a point though. In the first case, it can be annoying,
especially when you've a lot on, to find that of the 15 unseen notes,
14 of them say the same thing, nothing to do with football. Secondly,
and I don't know what the mods think about this, but if filespace is at
a premium these days (especially for "recreational" conferences),
then.... say no more.
Perhaps these "Goodbye, We Love You" messages tend to lend themselves
better to that tried and trusted medium, Email. JMHO, FWIW, and all
that jazz...
Adam.
|
33.767 | Old Blythe's Almanack | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Tue Jul 07 1992 18:14 | 31 |
| Well, I've been doing a bit of crysal gazing - it says "Ravenhead", and
it's a mirror image, with an amber tinge.
Man U will fail to take the title, they will be ahead after 3 games,
and the press will say it's their year, nobody can stop them etc etc. A
6-0 reversal at Burnley on the Rum Cup gets whingeing Fergie sacked,
and replaced by Graham Taylor. There will be riots in the Salford area,
starting at Ordsall and coming east, and Maine Road and Moss Side will
be razed, damage is estimated at 10p.
Further west, Liverpool will have another crop of injuries, real or
imagined, John Barnes will have as good a season as last. Everton will
be like this season - p*ss poor.
Leeds United will get to the last 8 of the European Cup, be there or
thereabouts in the League, and do well in the Cups.
Arsenal will be a major force, but they will do a Manc - ie fade
rapidly.
Burnley to go straight through Div 2 to Div 1, and Blackburn Rovers
will go straight down.
Football in general will get less popular, due to the BSkyB deal and
less exposure on terrestial TV.
jb.
|
33.768 | Thanks. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Tue Jul 07 1992 18:15 | 4 |
| Thanks to all the punters who have sent good wishes through Vaxmail /
ALL-IN-1 (look - spelt proper).
jb.
|
33.769 | All the best Jon. | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | I'M THE BEST FOOTBALLER IN DEC | Tue Jul 07 1992 22:14 | 6 |
|
I'd just like to wish you all the best Jon in whatever you do in the
future. Like myself you have been contributing impartial & unbiased notes
for some time and I have really enjoyed them.
Cunno
|
33.770 | And if you believe that I've a bridge in Brooklyn that.. | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Tue Jul 07 1992 23:17 | 8 |
| >================================================================================
>Note 33.769 Leeds United FC 769 of 769
>ESSB::MCUNNIFFE "I'M THE BEST FOOTBALLER IN DEC" 6 lines 7-JUL-1992 18:14
Martin, you may get people to believe that TGA is the greatest striker
in the world but this really takes the bicuit. :-)
Gary.
|
33.771 | BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri Jul 10 1992 14:56 | 26 |
| Strachan has had a minor operation on his back but should be OK for the
start of the season. Sellars has rejoined, Speed will replace Strachan
whwn he conks out. Deane is still linked with the club, Chapman has
been linked with Everton and Sheff Utd. Sterland is fighting to be fit
before the start of the season, he is training, but not with the other
players. Haddock is still unfit, his career may be over.
Bond Holders may apply by post for a CS ticket from 15 to 20 July.
This is my last day, I'm just going to have my 'departure interview'
with my manager, then I'll be departing to the pub for a pint / off to
the estate agents to buy a house / pint / curry / pint(s) / go and see
The Return of Batman.
Happy noting all (even 32.....)
jb.
ps ......
THE MANCS WILL NEVER WIN THE LEAGUE !!!!!!!!!
THE MANCS WILL NEVER WIN THE LEAGUE !!!!!!!!!
THE MANCS WILL NEVER WIN THE LEAGUE !!!!!!!!!
THE MANCS WILL NEVER WIN THE LEAGUE !!!!!!!!!
|
33.772 | EURO draw today | FUTURS::FLETCHER | | Wed Jul 15 1992 15:03 | 8 |
| Couldnt think of anywhere else to put this but..
The draw for the Euro Comps is today. The BEEB said that Radio 5 at 12
o'clock will have details.
Anyone care to post details?
Nigel
|
33.773 | EUROPEAN DRAW | SUBURB::VYAS | | Wed Jul 15 1992 17:14 | 6 |
| LEEDS DRAWN AGAINST VFG STUATGARTT (SP??), GERMAN CHAMPIONS.
LIVERPOOL- SOME CYPRUS TEAM
MAN UNITED TORPIDO MOSCOW
WEDNESDAY- SOME LUXUMBURG TEAM.
JAY.
|
33.774 | And the real countries? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | DEC Mail Works for ME sometimes | Wed Jul 15 1992 21:54 | 7 |
| Jay,
What about the teams from Scotland and Wales?
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
33.775 | don't raise your interest just yet | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Thu Jul 16 1992 14:33 | 23 |
|
Well as mentioned somewhere in this not we have drawn Stuttgart in
the first round of the European cup away.
We will be playing them on :- 16-Sep-1992 (away)
30-Sep-1992 (home)
We also play them in the semi finals of the Makita competition on
Aug 1 at Elland Rd. I do not believe that Wilko will show his full hand
as far as the team goes and was being very cagey about potential new
signings before the Makita.
Strachan may not be fit before the start of the season due to his
back op although he is back doing light training.
Paul...
|
33.776 | Tough tie ahead of Leeds in European Cup. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Jul 16 1992 16:01 | 8 |
| I was a little disappointed to see that we have drawn the German champions. I was
hoping for a slightly easier draw but if we can't beat this lot we won't even go
close to winning the whole tournement!
Anyone thinking of going to the away leg. I would be interested in the program if
so?
James.
|
33.777 | Any help appreciated | JGODCL::SHERLOCK | L.U.F.C. The phoenix has risen | Thu Jul 16 1992 16:56 | 5 |
| Hi There,
anybody care to answer my question in 137.10 ?
Thanks
Tim
|
33.778 | VFB - Leeds U. program... | KBOMFG::KOEPPE | | Fri Jul 17 1992 14:47 | 5 |
| Re 33.776:
I might be going, in that case I could get a program for you.
Eduard
|
33.779 | | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Fri Jul 17 1992 21:31 | 10 |
|
James,
I Will get you a program assuming i get a ticket. We haven't
decided yet whether to fly or drive yet..
Paul....
|
33.780 | Oh C*&^%* and Trevor Steven. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Tue Jul 21 1992 14:31 | 5 |
33.781 | Trevor Steven | MIACT::MASON | | Tue Jul 21 1992 14:45 | 7 |
| re -1
Leeds are favourites to sign him but Everton are also in the picture.
The fee is likely to be 3 million, Marseille will lose 2.5 million
should the deal go through.
J
|
33.782 | "Tapie" or not "Tapie" is the question? | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Tue Jul 21 1992 16:38 | 23 |
|
James,
The reports in the press say that he will be signed today for
about #2.7 mil. Alan Roberts, general manager at Elland rd says they
haven't even put a bid in for Steven, maybe a smoke screen for buying
someone else?.
Steven is reported to be earning about #14,000 a week at O.M.
and do we really need another midfield player, I would have thought we
needed a decent striker ?
Leeds open their pre-season friendlies this week with the
traditional game against Shelborne in Ireland, then i beielve they are
of to Norway to play Stromgodset Drammen (umlaut over the first
'R')!!!. Then it's back home for the 2 day makita on the 1 & 2nd of
August followed by the Charity Shield on the 8th (1st live match for
Sky with its new setup).
Paul....
|
33.783 | Off to Dublin tonight. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Jul 22 1992 12:45 | 15 |
33.784 | Leave Rocastle Alone | SIOG::N_DONNELLY | | Wed Jul 22 1992 16:51 | 2 |
|
|
33.785 | | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Wed Jul 22 1992 16:59 | 4 |
|
I smell an infiltrator ....
|
33.786 | Rocky | ESSB::BLONG | Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92 | Thu Jul 23 1992 12:40 | 5 |
33.787 | Mini report for last nights match | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Jul 23 1992 12:57 | 14 |
| Leeds were very impressive in demolishing Shelbourne in a competitive friendly
at Tolka park last night. Players outstanding included Wallace (2 sharpish goals)
and Sellars. Rocastle was in Tolka last night and confirmed that he had signed
forms of some sort during the day. Leeds 4-1 Shelbourne.
I was told by someone who reads the sun that Wilko is interested in Chris Morris
of Celtic. Are they serious? Its an insult to think that the League champions of
England who even get Morris to lick their boots clean. Morris was and is useless.
I never understood why Charlton had the penchant for him in the Irish team. Maybe
he was one of the only players Charlton knew he could really bully completely.
Full report later, dudes.
James.
|
33.788 | Not another midfielder??? | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Thu Jul 23 1992 17:18 | 18 |
|
I don't know why HW is buying another midfielder. He now has a choice
of the following players:
Rocastle
McCalister
Speed
Batty
Sellars
Strachan
Hodge
Can anyone shed light on why Rocastle was bought?
Shafiq.
|
33.789 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | live von der documenta 9 | Thu Jul 23 1992 17:32 | 6 |
| re .last
Maybe that great visionary Graham Taylor has convinced Wilko that
"the boy" Rocastle should be played at right back?
barry.
|
33.790 | Crap player to keep McAllister company ! | KIRKTN::JJACK | | Thu Jul 23 1992 18:13 | 7 |
| RE.-2
I agree mate, Morris is crap.
I'd love Celtic to get rid of him & if it's to Leeds...then all the
better !
|
33.791 | | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Jul 23 1992 19:00 | 17 |
|
Rocastle started his career at Arsenal as a winger not as a central
midfielder which is his position now i believe. Sellars is more of a
winger than a central midfielder. We do need someone to back up Mel
Sterland who is still not fully fit, Speedie could fill that position
which would leave room in midfield.I don't think that this would be a
long term position for him though.
I can't remember but didn't Leeds WIN their way into Europe and NOT
through the back door as some teams have done :-) :-)
Paul...
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33.792 | I didn't know... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Jul 27 1992 13:02 | 5 |
| It seems that Leeds gave a free transfer to Brendan Ormsby last week. I didn't
know we ever had him! Still have to put in a report on the match from Shels last
week. Haven't forgot.
James.
|
33.793 | Marching on | RUTILE::BOYES | | Mon Jul 27 1992 16:41 | 13 |
| Ormsby was Captain when we played Coventry in the F.A. Cup semi-final
at Hilsborough (1987?). He gave the ball away in our penalty area
causing one of the Coventry goals - large blunder. Shortly after that
he received a crippling knee injury and spent a lot of time down at
Lillishall undergoing treatment - but it never really worked.
Has Rocastle officially signed ?
Was the Makita tournament last weekend, or is it the current weekend ?
It'll be interesting to see what team we play against Stuttgart.
Clive.
|
33.794 | -< Haddock retires >-< Haddock retires >Haddock Retires !!! | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Tue Jul 28 1992 19:54 | 18 |
|
Peter Haddock has been told that his career is over he will no
longer play for Leeds Utd due to the injury sustained in the match with
Man U 17 months ago. Specialists have advised him that if he plays any
more then he risks being crippled. the knee which he injured has had
arthritis set in amongst other problems,and has only stood up to one and a
half reserve games in 17 mths.
This injury has put more emphasis on Wilko getting in a right back
which i believe he must go for.We did at one point have interest in
Gary Charles of forest, anyone know of that ?
Re -.1 The makita tournament is this weekend k.o. 1.00 p.m.
paul..
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33.795 | Sad to see Peter go. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Tue Jul 28 1992 21:05 | 12 |
33.796 | | NEWOA::MORAN | Timmy 'Five Bellies' | Tue Jul 28 1992 21:13 | 10 |
| re -1
< He was shaping up to be a very good right back.>
I thought that as well, about 10 years ago (whilst at Newcastle), but
he's always been a nearly man. Dependable though. I hope he gets a
testimonial, maybe against Newcastle.
Tim
|
33.797 | | ESSB::BLONG | Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92 | Wed Jul 29 1992 16:07 | 7 |
33.798 | Sorry. Benefit of the doubt! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Jul 29 1992 22:44 | 8 |
| Re:: -1
Brian,
I meant to say which United played was involved in the collision which injured
him.
James.
|
33.799 | Match report of the Leeds-Shels game Wednesday 22th July 1992. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Jul 29 1992 22:45 | 109 |
33.800 | Batty Bites Yer Back | RUTILE::BOYES | | Mon Aug 03 1992 20:47 | 18 |
| Sampadoria 1 - Leeds 0
Just been talking to my brother about this game. He said it was much
more competitive and enjoyable than the average friendly. One of the
best bits was when Batts elbowed a Sampadoria player and up-ended him
over the advertising hording. The whole of the Samp. bench then ran
towards Batty who wondered what all the fuss was about. Chris Whyte
came to his assistance and the ref. calmed everything down - asking
Howard W. if he would sub. Batts for the good of the game! This seemed
to piss Howard off.
Stuttgart are nothing to be feared.
Apparently Rocky played very well - and looks a good signing.
Roll-on this Saturday. Leeds 3 (OOh-Ah,Hodge & Chappeee) - Liverpool 1.
Clive.
|
33.801 | Ho Ho! | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Dad forgives dog that ate son | Mon Aug 03 1992 21:19 | 8 |
| I really can't get my head round Leeds fans calling Rocastle, Rocky,
for sentimental reasons. So how's about this. Since he was our
Rocky first, you can call him Rocky II.
8^)
barry.
|
33.802 | More on Makita | FORTY2::ASH | Grahame Ash @REO | Tue Aug 04 1992 15:45 | 7 |
| Interesting to see how 'keen' the Leeds public were to see 2 top-class
European sides taking on their own side and Forest - 10 000 on Sat and 17 000
on Sunday.
A lot of good football played, and just about the right results, I thought.
grahame
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33.803 | Visit to sunny Brummy? | SUBURB::YOUNGA1 | | Tue Aug 04 1992 20:34 | 17 |
| Greetings
We scummy D.M.O. Leeds fans will be travelling to
Aston Villa for the game on Weds 19th. We are looking
for 1/2 of similar interest to share travelling costs.
Bimbos will get preference. Photos in a plain brown
envelope to Jason or Dusty at D1.
Cheers
Dust {}_-_{}
( o o )
( % )
U
|
33.804 | errrr.... | TRUCKS::SANT | lurching from disaster to apocalypse.. | Tue Aug 04 1992 20:42 | 4 |
33.805 | Charity Shield | AYOV14::DDIAMOND | | Wed Aug 05 1992 12:22 | 9 |
|
It looks like Saturday's game will be blacked out on Sky Sports. The
S.F.A. have objected due to the Scottish games on at that time. They
have also indicated that the same problems may arise during the season
when Sky hope to show Premier League games.
David.
|
33.806 | Anyone heard... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Aug 05 1992 15:05 | 7 |
| I heard that Wilko according to the sun is interested in some players, both of
the same team. I know nothing else. Can anyone help with the rumour, or the
amount of truth in it?
Is anyone interested in any Leeds players as transfer targets at all?
James.
|
33.807 | More info please?? | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Aug 06 1992 14:17 | 8 |
|
james,
What players a hint would help !!!.
paul...
|
33.808 | Keep yer shirt on!!!! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Aug 06 1992 14:26 | 13 |
|
James BTW,
Leeds won against Stromgodset last night 2-0 goals from
McAllister and Cantona in the second half.
Strachan came on in the second half and completely changed the game.
We had two injuries last night who may miss the Charity shield on
saturday, they were Tony Dorigo and Scott Sellars.
Paul...
|
33.809 | I have absolutely no idea, honest! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Aug 06 1992 20:32 | 10 |
| Paul,
I have absolutely no idea the players except, the name Nunn seems to ring a bell.
Not having read the article I was relyed on the news by a WHU fan who has no
interest in Leeds. Heathen!
It seems that nobody in this conference reads the sun (small mercies). What are
the chances the sun are correct anyhow with what they said anyhow?
James.
|
33.810 | | CASEE::MERRICK | Aspiring to a writers block... | Fri Aug 07 1992 14:04 | 2 |
| Leeds have signed Frank Strandli, a 19-yr old striker from Norwegian
club IK Start.
|
33.811 | Ooh aah Cantona :-) | GIDDAY::PARSONS | LUFC Charity Shield Winners 92 | Mon Aug 10 1992 11:55 | 8 |
|
Charity Shield :
Leeds United (2) 4 Liverpool (1) 3
Cantona 3 Rush
Dorigo Saunders
Strachan o.g.
|
33.812 | Two in a row | ESSB::SONEILL | | Mon Aug 10 1992 18:14 | 5 |
| What a pity the best Charity Shield final in years wasn't on TV for the
average punter. Leeds look good for another run at the title this
season.
Shane
|
33.813 | I see in the sun. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Aug 12 1992 14:42 | 15 |
33.814 | Cystal Balls ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | LUFC Charity Shield Winners 92 | Fri Aug 14 1992 08:19 | 35 |
|
Well I guess it's time for predictions again :
Targets for Howard this season should be - European Cup Quarter-Finals,
Top 3 in the league, qualify for Europe next season
I reckon :-
Arsenal to win the league
Coventry and Southampton to get relegated
England to draw 0-0 in every game
AC Milan to enter two (or three) teams in the 93-94 European Cup
Blackburn to buy the entire Arsenal team for 60 million pounds after
they have won the league
Not a single premier division game to be shown 'live' because the
Scottish F.A. object.
ITV to get higher ratings than SKY for their televised games
FIFA to alter the backpass law on a week-to-week basis
F.A. Cup Final and both semi-finals to be settled on penalty shoot-outs
Liverpool unable to field a full strength side once in the whole season
David Batty to score THREE times in a season (but only once on the
pitch)
Ron Atkinson to complete his buying of the Liverpool 1988 team
Crystal Palace to complete the sale of their team, manager, ground,
fans ...
Wimbledon to record the first sub-1000 attendence in the Premier
Division
The average height of the Everton forward line to shrink to 4' 8"
Brian Clough to retire and become Lord Mayor of Nottingham 3 times
Jimmy Hill to be punched by Terry Venebales
Blackburn to sign "Saint & Greavsie" for 3.3 million
... and Luton to be relegated to Division 2 !!!
;-)
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33.815 | What I think. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Fri Aug 14 1992 17:29 | 28 |
| Re:: -1
Excellent stuff!
Well my predictions are a little more mundane.
I think that Leeds can win the league again this year. But if they do they
will probably win it because nobody else will be able to put together a
sustained run throughout the whole season. Leeds are very strong at home and will
be incredibly hard to beat there (fingers crossed) and have built up a solid away
record in the championship season.
However as always to win the league you need to beat all the other "big boys"
i.e. MUFC, Arsenal, Liverpool, something not really done by Leeds last season.
Leeds, too, have their bogey sides also Palace, QPR, MUFC who we haven't done so
well against since our return. This will change this season if success is to be
expected.
The experience gained by the players and the manager last year will help the team
out a lot when it come to the crunch this season. I expect a good cup run in at
least one of the three cup competitions. Not all of them together for our sake.
Personally I don't think there is one single club that stands out at the moment
as real champions elect and I hope to be proved correct by Christmas, where no
one club will be acres ahead of the pack.
Long live Leeds :-).
James.
|
33.816 | Leeds ! Leeds ! Leeds ! | ISEQ::MKEENAN | | Mon Aug 17 1992 16:30 | 5 |
|
In the opening week of the new Premier League Leeds win............
and Arsenal,Liverpool, and Manchester United all lose!!!!!!!
MK.
|
33.817 | Treasure | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tik | Mon Aug 17 1992 17:22 | 5 |
33.818 | Here we go | ESSB::SONEILL | | Mon Aug 17 1992 18:08 | 7 |
| Yes I agree that it couldn't have been a better start to the season.
Two goals from the most reliable striker in the league.
The latest from the Old Trafford faithful is that it's better to start
slow this year and lose a few games early on -:) Only 40+ games to go!
Shane
|
33.819 | Any news will do | RUTILE::BOYES | | Mon Aug 17 1992 18:52 | 5 |
| Anyone have a match report please...
Clive.
(Kopite (right side) in Geneva)
|
33.820 | 1 down 41 to go | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Mon Aug 17 1992 22:29 | 54 |
|
well as jon has gone i'll have to do some sort of match report!!!
Got to Leeds late (2.00 O'clock) so missed meeting Jon Blythe for a
drink before the match. Leeds started well with Chapman on great form
playing up front with Cantona. Chappie could have had three in the
first 20 mins but for Segers and the woodwork.
Batty for all people say about him had a very good first half
controlling midfield mainly playing balls out to the left wing and
Wallace. Leeds seemed to cope with the new back pass rule better than
Wimbledon, when a pass to Lukic was needed then either Dorigo or Newsome
ran to the touchline level with the 18 yard box to receive the return.
The same could not be said about Leeds first goal and Roger Joseph's
uncertainty when he receved the ball facing goal just outside the six
yard area he hesitated and in went Chapman to run down the six yard
line to find a shot at goal .
The equaliser well, what can you say, Warren Barton claims he was
going for goal (well he would do would't he!!) a 40 yard cross that got
caught in the wind is what i would call it., Lukic was off his line out
of the 6 yard box and as soon as he started back peddlin' you just Knew
it was gonna be one of those fluke goals 1-1.
Batty went off at half time with ankle probs, he's been told to rest
for 2 days and may not make the Villa game on Weds. We lost our
direction in the second half without Batty, Hodge had come on for him
and Hodge roves about the park a bit more and we lost the shape and
control of midfield, although Hodge did have a well taken goal
disallowed but it was offside.
Strachan came on with ten mins to go and the team started to play
with purpose again, we had a penalty refused for a blatent foul on
Wallace , Segers came to collect a high ball in the middle of the 18
yard box and missed it, the ball fell at the corner of the 18 yard box
to Rod Wallace who turned his back to goal Segers went after the ball
pushed Wallace in the back to the floor with BOTH ,collected the
ball and the ref said no penalty?? to which the Leeds fans chanted
who's the @!st&*# in the green.
The last goal came 4 mins from time with a flick on from Cantona's
head to Chapman just inside the 18 yard box on the right to control and
volley to the top right of Segers goal who just got a hand to it.
There was an amusing incident where we DID get caught inside the box
for a backpass from Fairclough to Lukic and the free kick had ALL the
Utd players on the goal line with Lukic standing in front of them,
crazy!!!
Sellars is fit for the game on Weds at villa and i suspect that
either he or Rocastle will be chosen for that game in place of Batts,
Newsome is troubled by a calf strain picked up in the Charity Shield,
Dorigo is is still suffering from a twisted knee but should be fit.
more later
paul....
|
33.821 | At least we don't get Jimmy Hill over here ! | GIDDAY::PARSONS | LUFC Charity Shield Winners 92 | Tue Aug 18 1992 11:46 | 20 |
|
Well I saw extended highlights of the Wombles game last night over
here. Leeds looked really good in the 1st half, they should have led
by a lot more than 1-0 at half-time. They seemed to lose their way
in the 2nd half. There is no way Barton's goal was planned, it was
an up-and-under into the penalty area that carried too far !
Other observations from the highlights of the other games :
Referees playing in green look daft, almost as bad as Liverpool's
away strip (which at least makes referees play in black).
Forest win the prize for the worst new strip. It looks vintage
1982 style with the pin stripes that were 'fashionable' then.
The new backpass rule will probably suit Graham Taylor's England
style of kick-and-rush. Who needs a midfield if your defence/goalkeeper
can hoof it over the opposing defence and you have a fast forward
line to chase ?
Will Tony Adams remember which end of Highbury has the 'live' Arsenal
fans to wave to before the end of the season ? ;-)
|
33.822 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue Aug 18 1992 14:41 | 11 |
| > There was an amusing incident where we DID get caught inside the box
> for a backpass from Fairclough to Lukic and the free kick had ALL the
> Utd players on the goal line with Lukic standing in front of them,
> crazy!!!
Paul,
Not meaning to split hairs but wasn't this free kick given for a high boot,
I believe it was White's. This apart, the new rule is certainly going to give the
beginning of the season some entertaining moments.
Al
|
33.823 | | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Wed Aug 19 1992 21:32 | 17 |
|
re -.1
Al you are completely correct it was an indirect free kick for
dangerous play by Chris Whyte, must have had one to many at the pub
before hand !!!!.
Batty is still doubtful for tonight's game and faces a late fitness
test.
Leeds won the same game last year at Villa 4-1 (on the box), i
wonder if Wilko is going to use the same man marking system that he
used last time with Fairclough and Dorigo possibly covering
Yorke and Arfur Daley respectively ?
Should be an entertaining game and i predict 2-1 to Leeds .
|
33.824 | Paul ? | PLUNDR::BODDY | come on BORO | Thu Aug 20 1992 15:10 | 3 |
|
So how many of you Leeds fans are coming to Ayresome Park on Saturday ?
|
33.825 | That far north makes me dizzy!!! | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Fri Aug 21 1992 00:43 | 24 |
|
Bill, nice to see you in the first division, we won't be as easy a
pushover as Man city the other night.
Unfortunately i will not be gong to the game at 'boro, i was hoping
to but the other two people i go with are on holiday and working so i
didn't fancy travelling up on me own to be amongst all those N/E hard
men!!!.
Will you be going ,will you come to Elland Rd (30th jan), let me know if
you are and i'll meet up with you as i've got my season ticket again
this year.I only missed about 4-6 games in total last season home and
away and as it was a bit of a drain on cash we decided to cut down the
number of away games we went to this season.
Middlesbrough are doing well and it should be a good game, but if you
stick to the old formula of draw away and win at home you won't be far
of the title eh!.
keep in touch paul...
|
33.826 | Boro Match | PLUNDR::BODDY | come on BORO | Fri Aug 21 1992 17:51 | 16 |
|
Paul ,
Yeah I'll be there tomorrow and at Elland road on the 30th January .
That's if I can get a ticket . Are Leeds still giving away fans about
2000 standing ? I should be ok though having a season ticket .
By the way I can remember your face and about how you are a "long
distance fan" ( read the latest note topic ) . But it's been bugging
the hell out of me what course we were on together .
Anyway it should be a great game tomorrow and if we can beat City then
Leeds should be EEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!
Bill .
|
33.827 | statistics say it all | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Fri Aug 21 1992 19:28 | 29 |
|
Bill if you can't get a ticket then i can get you one for the Leeds
end if you want!!!!.
I was trying to think of the last time i was on a course and i
don't think i was actually on a course with you but was introduced to
you by a guy from the Leeds office who was a site ressy with a Mazda
323. Iwas on the Ultrix Level I couse i seem to remember. You told me
how the Middlesbrough notes were defunct is that still the same or have
you resurrected them.
Leeds will have a capacity of 40,000 all seater next season and
will be giving more tickets to away fans whoever (even mancs!), but as
for this year i don't know the average they have been giving so far.
I think you're a little optimistic about the 'Boro winning, a draw will
suit me but a win would be OHHHH SOOOOO NICE!!!!.
BTW. heres a snippet of useless info :- in the last 5 years the team
that has won the championship has not lost more than 6 games over the
whole season and you have to go back to 1976 for teams that lost
more than 8 games to become champions Man U and Arsenal are fast using
up there 6 lives with another 40 games to go!!!!!!.
See ya soon Paul....
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33.828 | Boro 4 Leeds 1 | PLUNDR::BODDY | come on BORO | Mon Aug 24 1992 13:19 | 10 |
|
"One season wonders , your only one season wonders " was the chorus
from the Holgate on Saturday .
I afraid Boro gave Leeds a lesson on Saturday in football .
Anyway I won't say too much about this one other than " one life gone "
Bill
|
33.829 | Lets see! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Aug 24 1992 15:46 | 10 |
| Re -1
All that counts is whose is on top at the end of the season. If 'boro are tops
then you may crow otherwise I think it would be better to keep quiet just in
case they collapse, like other teams that come to mind at this moment.
I will bide my time and am certain that I will see Leeds back up there come
next May. He who laughs last will laugh loudest :-).
James.
|
33.830 | Hurricane Andrew hit Leeds!! | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Mon Aug 24 1992 21:13 | 19 |
|
Bill,
Looks like hurricane Andrew hit the north and Leeds on saturday,
I listened to the commentary on good 'ole radio 5 and we were'nt
even in the match but somewhere else. I don't know what lennie said to
'Boro before the game but he certainly got them fired up.
Leeds were bplaying flat across the back with Boro' playing the ball
behind the defence and catching us every time, Wilkinson played very
well as did the ex Leeds players Tommy Wright and john Hendrie.
All credit to Middlesbrough for a good result, lets hope as with last
season that when we got hit with this sort of defeat we normally turn
in a good performance the following game to bounce back.That i believe
is Tottenham tomorrow night and i will be there to see if we can shake
off the defeat from saturday.
paul...
|
33.831 | Bobby is gone. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Aug 24 1992 22:03 | 10 |
33.832 | Sold for peanuts | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Tue Aug 25 1992 17:39 | 19 |
|
James,
We did seem to give our players away in those days, there was
an article in the program against Wimbledon a week or so ago giving the
run down of the Leeds team v Wimbledon in Dec 1984, it reads :-
Harvey,Irwin,Hamson,Sellars,Linighan,Aspin,(Tommy)Wright,Sheridan,
Ritchie,Lorimer(subbed by Roger Eli) and Frank Gray,Eddie Gray was manager.
Most of these players were sold for poultry summs and are currently
with premier league teams Dennis Irwin, Andy Ritchie, Tommy Wright John
Sheridan, Scott Sellars is the only one who is now back at Leeds, wish
we had kept hold of some of the others though eh?? We might need them
tonight !!!!
Paul...
|
33.833 | er, I think that should read "paltry sums"...;-) | TRUCKS::SANT | lurching from disaster to apocalypse.. | Tue Aug 25 1992 17:55 | 6 |
|
re last...
>poultry sums.....
8-) 8-) brilliant. Freudian, perchance?
|
33.834 | Aspin.. where did he go??? | EICMFG::HOWE | Alice in ordnung | Tue Aug 25 1992 18:00 | 8 |
| re .832
Whatever happened to Neil Aspin ?? Just curious as I used to play in
the same boys club team. Redheugh Boys Club, the club that produced
players such as Gazza and David Hodgson (Ex Liverpool), and computer
contractors who seem over the years to have lost all their skills.. 8-)
Keith.
|
33.835 | 20 miles an hour | RUTILE::BOYES | | Tue Aug 25 1992 19:11 | 1 |
| Wish we'd kept hold of that Lorimer. He'd be useful tonight.
|
33.836 | Aspin query. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Tue Aug 25 1992 20:53 | 8 |
| Re -2
I think that he played for a while when Wilko came but then as Wilko bought
better players he melted away. I think he got a testimonial from the club?
If jb was around he could tell you for sure :-(.
James.
|
33.837 | aspin | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Tue Aug 25 1992 20:58 | 9 |
|
re -1
I think Aspin was sold to one of the Bristol teams!
Shafiq
|
33.838 | Empire Strikes Back | GIDDAY::PARSONS | LUFC Charity Shield Winners 92 | Wed Aug 26 1992 05:20 | 6 |
|
Leeds United 5 Tottenham Hotspur 0
Good to see Leeds have kept last seasons habit of bouncing back
from a bad away defeat.
|
33.839 | LEEDS! LEEDS! LEEDS! | ISEQ::MKEENAN | | Wed Aug 26 1992 13:51 | 7 |
|
5-0... BRILLIANT!!!!!
Anyone know who scored?
MK.
|
33.840 | scorers | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Wed Aug 26 1992 13:53 | 13 |
|
The scorers were:
Wallace 19 minutes
Cantona 26, 31 and 47
Chapman 66
Shafiq
|
33.841 | Lots of doom and gloom? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Aug 26 1992 21:41 | 18 |
| Not in this note mind. It looks very gloomy for Spurs after the 0-5 drubbing at
the hands of an excellent Leeds team last night.
It a while since we have won so convincingly at home. Remember the 6-0, Oldham,
about 6/7 years ago. Amazing how we can bounce back after a crusihng away defeat
and win so well.
Though its going to be a LONG season with a plethora of games in the league and
all the cups to come. We will need as big a panel of players as possible. I think
it would be advisable for Wilko to give as many of the peripheral players a run
as possible. The likes of Wetherall, Rocastle ;-0, Kelly, Sterland all need to
get match practice *if possible* as there will inevitably be injuries along the
line during a long tough season.
I am licking my lips at Liverpool coming into Leeds on Saturday. We will destroy
them. I feel it.
James.
|
33.842 | List of players for season 1992-93. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Aug 26 1992 21:54 | 41 |
| Anyone missing please mail me to include them. This list found in the soccer
annual (news of the screws).
James.
Name Height Prev Club Birthplace Birthdate
Goalkeepers
Mervyn Day 6-02 Aston Villa Chelmsford 26-06-55
John Lukic 6-04 Arsenal Chesterfield 11-12-60
Defenders
Tony Dorigo 5-10 Chelsea Melbourne 31-12-65
Chris Fairclough 5-11 Tottenham Nottingham 12-04-65
Dylan Kerr 5-11 Shepherds Valletta 14-01-67
Jon Newsome 6-02 Sheff Wed. Sheffield 06-09-70
Mel Sterland 5-10 Rangers Sheffield 01-10-61
Ray Wallace 5-06 Southampton Lewisham 02-10-69
David Wetherall 6-03 Sheff Wed. Sheffield 14-03-71
Chris Whyte 6-01 W.B.A London 02-09-61
Midfield
David Batty 5-07 - Leeds 02-12-68
Steve Hodge 5-11 Notts For. Nottingham 25-10-62
Gary McAllister 5-10 Leicester Motherwell 25-12-64
David Rocastle 5-09 Arsenal Lewisham 02-05-67
Gary Speed 5-09 - Harwarden 08-09-69
Gordon Strachan 5-06 Man Utd. Edinburgh 09-02-57
Forwards
Eric Cantona 6-00 Nimes Marseille 24-05-66
Lee Chapman 6-03 Notts For. Lincoln 05-12-59
Gary Kelly - - - -
Carl Shutt 5-10 Bristol City Sheffield 10-10-61
Imre Varadi 5-08 Sheff Wed. Paddington 08-07-59
Rod Wallace 5-07 Southampton Lewisham 02-10-69
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33.843 | Leage appearances for last season! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Aug 26 1992 22:06 | 34 |
| Did you know that the championship winning club get 18 medals from the football
league. 13 for the players, 1 each for the Manager and the Physio and 2 others
for distribution between between the other players. I don't know how the split
went but on the figures below they should have gone to Newsome and Cantona just
about as he played as a sub one more time than Shutt did.
James.
played sub goals
Agana 1 1 -
Batty 40 - 2
Cantona 6 9 3
Chapman 38 - 16
Davison - 2 -
Dorigo 38 - 3
Fairclough 30 1 2
Hodge 12 11 7
Kamara - 2 -
Kelly - 2 -
Lukic 42 - -
McAllister 41 1 5
McClelland 16 2 -
Newsome 7 3 2
Shutt 6 8 1
Speed 41 - 7
Sterland 29 2 6
Strachan 35 1 4
Varadi 2 1 -
Wallace 34 - 11
Wetherall - 1 -
Whitlow 3 7 1
Whyte 41 - 1
Oppenents - - 3
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33.844 | missed one!! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Wed Aug 26 1992 23:11 | 8 |
|
James,
What about Scott Sellars...?
paul.....
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33.845 | Stuttgart info | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Aug 27 1992 14:47 | 36 |
| James,
Forgot to mention that i got my ticket for the Stuttgart game when i
went to see Spurs get destroyed the other night.There are two tickets
for the different travel types (air #199, coach #99), you cannot get a
ticket for the game UNLESS you have bought the associated travel
ticket,and Leeds are being VERY strict on this.
The air ticket goes from Manchester airport on 16th getting into
Stuttgart about 13:00, so you must travel to Leeds to get a shuttle bus
to Manchester. The plane flies back at 23:45 on the 16th and arrives
back about 02:00 on the 17th.
The coaches leaves Elland rd at 00:00 on the 16th and takes 17
hrs!!,there are also some coaches going from London but i don't know
what time yet. The coach gets into Stuttgart about 17:00 and leaves
promtly after the game. The coach trip from London will be about 4 hrs
less than the Leeds one so i have opted for this rather than fly and
have to travel for 3 plus hours after getting back to Manchester.
Leeds have been given 3600 tickets and up until the Spurs game only
300 !! had been sold, i for one had to think is it worth it, as i would
have liked to stay in Germany for a couple of days at least but with
this scheme it just isn't possible.
Ticket prices are 5.00 standing and 8.00 seating (8.00 off the whole
price if you are a bond holder).
i'm looking forward to the game but not the coach trip lets hope it
all worth it.
P.S. you must be a premier card holder to get ticket.
Paul....
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33.846 | I wondered why I needed a premier card | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Aug 27 1992 14:54 | 10 |
33.847 | 'Cos your in the premier division !!! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Aug 27 1992 15:36 | 15 |
| re -.1
James, it is the only way to get away tickets this season, as it has
been for the last few years. If you cannot produce a premier card with
your ticket when trying to get into an away game then they take the ticket
number and can trace back whose premier card was used to buy the ticket,
upon finding that info IF you are a season ticket holder thay will take the
season ticket away and you will be banned without compensation, so the
Golden rule is DON'T buy a ticket with your premier card for someone else
to go to an away game if you can't go yourself, it could leave you
bulloxed!!!!
Paul...
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33.848 | scunthopre in coca cola cup | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Thu Aug 27 1992 16:18 | 6 |
|
Leeds have got Scunthorpe in the Coca Cola Cup.
Shafiq.
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33.849 | Makes me seeth | RUTILE::BOYES | | Thu Aug 27 1992 17:52 | 19 |
| RE: STUTTGART
It pisses me off that as a bondholder, season ticket holder and premier
card holder that I cannot just buy a ticket - especially when I only
live 4hrs drive from Stuttgart. Anyone who pays 199 quid for a night's
football is mad - and the bus journey will be purgatory.
It makes more sense for Leeds to arrange to show the game in local
cinemas / University / Tetley Banqueting Suite, like they did for the
Bournmouth match. I'm sure they'll do this.
I can also understand why they are taking such precautions, remembering
our last little escapade in Paris.
Will Eurosport be showing the game ?
Hope to be at the second (more interesting) leg at Eland Rd. anyway.
Clive.
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33.850 | Coca Cola what? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Aug 27 1992 18:29 | 9 |
| re -2
Shafiq,
Is that the new name for the league cup? Didn't we play them last year at the
same stage. Weren't too impressive but have a good home win to coast through.
Should be an easy advance to the third round :-\.
James.
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33.851 | | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Thu Aug 27 1992 20:15 | 14 |
|
re-1
Yep, Rumbalows pulled out of the sponsorship of the League cup and
were replaced by Coca Cola.
I think you are right Leeds did play Scunthorpe last year and won the home
leg 3-0.
Shafiq.
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33.852 | Probably RTL+ | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Fri Aug 28 1992 00:58 | 18 |
|
Re a few back, Clive, i am also a little miffed about the situation as
a few of us could have taken a car across for a damn site less than
they are charging fore the air fare.As for the tickets i was under the
impression (from the forms that came with it ),that when i bought my
bond bond holders would get first refusal.
The Pool (again) on saturday and i can't see Wilko changing from the
squad he put out on tuesday possibly still no debut for Rocastle or
Sellars.
BTW the game will be on either ITV or BBC, Leeds haven't worked out how
much they are going to charge or who will show their games yet, the
money will be supplementary to everything else they are already
getting!!!!!
Paul....
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33.853 | Where do you live Clive?????
| KBOMFG::TANNER | We're one, but we're not the same | Fri Aug 28 1992 14:06 | 9 |
|
Clive if you live only four hours drive from Stuttgart, then maybe you can
also pick up German TV. Iam sure the game will be shown live, either on ZDF/ARD
or SAT 1 with a small possibility of RTL showing it. Austrian TV might be also
showing it....
regards..
-dave-
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33.854 | nearly ate my hat :-(. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Aug 31 1992 19:15 | 37 |
| Leeds 2 - 2 Liverpool
Exciting game with a high level of commitment but nearly nothing for Leeds from
the game. Leeds opened very brightly and were a goal up inside 10 minutes with a
superb shot from McAllister. Leeds kept up the pressure but some excellent
keeping from James (who I didn't realise is 6' 5'' tall) keeping Cantona out.
Whelan squeezed an equalizer before half-time (less that 10 seconds left) when
he caught Lukic off his line :-(. Grudgingly, a great goal to but then I am
biased.
Leeds went to pieces in the second half and with some boneless play from Batty
who thought he became a ball player tried to juggle the ball out of his penalty
area. Ball came across the area from his foolishness and a penalty resulted when
a liverpool man was tripped. Molby blasted the ball to the goal. He needed to as
Lukic was down a split second afterwards. Leeds became desperate and were
rewarded when James made an error of judgement by coming out for a ball from a
corner. 3 minutes left. Chapman was on hand to head it in.
Chapman was then robbed of what would have been a famous victory when the Ref.
disallowed a good goal. All Chapman did was get a defender out of the way ;-).
The defender wan't going anywhere so Chappie says to himself, he's mine. It
created an embarrassing situation for me as I was in the midst of a deserted
pub and they thought I was demented when the 3th goal went in. I wouldn't mind
if it was allowed. I can't go into that pub again after that incident. Ref. you
have a lot to answer for.
Overall impressions of the game. Goodbye gobbler, your days are well and truly
numbered at the 'pool. Liverpool will concede too many goals this season to be
in the shakeup. Leeds on the other hand blew very hot and cold, great when things
were going their way but poor when backpeddling. Watch the offside trap, the
cause of the first goal, fragile defending. McAllister isn't a Strachan, he
doesn't put in the work rate and doesn't seem to have the enthusiasm of Strachan.
Newsome is still green, He has only played 12 first team game as yet. Has already
been identified as being a weak link in the defence. Home record still intact
:-), just though.
James.
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33.855 | Leeds on ITV | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Tue Sep 01 1992 16:20 | 10 |
33.856 | Late,late show... | AYOV14::DDIAMOND | | Wed Sep 02 1992 11:51 | 10 |
|
OLDHAM 2 LEEDS 2
(Olney 85,92) (Cantona 54,76)
It looked as if we were moving into 2nd top spot then disaster struck.
Wilko said after last night's game "I thought Premier League matches
only lasted 90 minutes ".
David.
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33.857 | Nice stand shame about the floodlights!!! | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Wed Sep 02 1992 18:10 | 14 |
|
I was there with my dad who is a season ticket holder at Oldham.
They played at least two and a half minutes of extra time when there
were no injuries in the second half, but the rule of thumb always
applies, you play until the whistle is blown and DON'T sit back on a
lead no matter how great.In the end Oldahm deserved a draw and the
payment for the pints afterward was shared.When will we get rid of
this hoodoo that Oldham have over us in, 63 years we have only won once
at Boundary park!!!!!!!
Paul.....
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33.858 | Wilko must have been :-@ after game last night | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Sep 02 1992 20:03 | 9 |
33.859 | ITV Euro rights | MACNAS::GBEATTY | You get that in ye | Thu Sep 03 1992 21:19 | 7 |
| > .855
ITV have got involved in a deal with U.E.F.A.
They have the rights to show any quarter and semi
final of their choice (Not sure which cup).
Gar.
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33.860 | | PLUNDR::BODDY | Slaven was born offside | Sun Sep 06 1992 23:51 | 7 |
| Sunday 6th September......
Manchester Utd. 2 - Leeds Utd. 0
Kanchelskis
Bruce
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33.861 | The game ends at the final whistle! | SAC::MAGUIRE_G | | Mon Sep 07 1992 19:12 | 12 |
|
Re .857 yes it has been some time since Leeds won in the league at
Boundary Park the last time they won I was there a certain Andy Ritchie
scored the goal after Goram had dropped the ball at his feet.
Oldham once played nine minutes injury time one at Newcastle with
Magpies scoring the winner in the 97th minute. You have to play until
the final whistle I am afraid. Still you could get your revenge on
February 13th at Elland Road.
G.
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33.862 | Hello anyone out there? | JOBBIE::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Fri Sep 11 1992 17:21 | 20 |
| Looks like we are playing Villa at home tomorrow. But wait, didn't we play
them only last month, or is my memory failing? Don't think so. What's the deal
playing the return so soon after the original match. That, IMFHO is unfair on
one or both teams. It means that if one team is on a roll that they will beat
the same team twice in a short duration of time, or lose as the case may be!
Big win expected tomorrow as per any previous loss. Dissappointed about
Sundays match. Could be the end of the road for Strachan, he didn't play too
well.
Where is Rocastle? Where is Sellars? How is Wallace? I'd say he was a bit
pissed at getting injured just as he was about to make his debut for England.
Hope his injury isn't too serious.
If things don't start to happen soon in the league Wilko will probably start
to put more emphasis on the Cups! The League is really so difficult to win and
sometimes it isn't worth the effort when it will be easier (ralatively
speaking) to win a cup.
James.
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33.863 | Are you sure ??? | OPG::TONY | | Fri Sep 11 1992 18:13 | 18 |
| Isnt the Villa game on SKY on Sunday ??
>If things don't start to happen soon in the league Wilko will probably start
>to put more emphasis on the Cups! The League is really so difficult to win and
>sometimes it isn't worth the effort when it will be easier (ralatively
>speaking) to win a cup.
Of course you guys should know.... Your record in Cups is something like
FA cup winners once 1972
League Cup Winners once 1968
All of a sudden winning CUPs is the easiest thing in the World...!!!
Good luck..
Tony
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33.864 | | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Fri Sep 11 1992 18:44 | 15 |
|
Re:- .1
you really shouldn't set yourself up for something like this but
Man U's record in THE cup (league championship) is what counts, and
i rest my case on behalf of LUFC.
Paul...
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33.865 | United 2 Leeds 0 | ESSB::BLONG | Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92 | Fri Sep 11 1992 18:45 | 4 |
| 3 Notes in a week, it looks like the Leeds supporters did'nt have much
to talk about this week.
They must be all on holidays :-) :-)
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33.866 | | OPG::TONY | | Fri Sep 11 1992 19:15 | 13 |
| RE.864
Paul,
If Man Us record in THE CUP (league championship) as you say is what counts
then it still better to your 3 championships and we havent won it a longgg time.
What does that make you...!!
Baaaahh...Baaaahhhh
tony
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33.867 | BAA BAA black sheep | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Fri Sep 11 1992 19:59 | 12 |
|
What a suprise a Man U fan making a reference to sheep, haven't you
learnt anything yet. Obviously not you still support Man U. !!!!!
Only joking all the best for saturday against Everton ,after all it's
only a game
Paul...
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33.868 | Monday morning blues, Zzzzzzzzz........ | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Sep 14 1992 17:39 | 22 |
| re .865
Brian. When United win the league then you can take a rest from the activity of
this conference! That will mean you will be chained to your terminal for the rest
of your days ;-). After the frenetic activity of last season, this season is a
bit of an anti climax for me. Wait until things get a bit interesting then you
will seee the fans flock back. At least we are all accounted for, not like the
MUFC fans that started to crawl out of the woodwork when they smelt a
championship last year. We put ye back in your box.
result yesterday: report anyone!
Leeds (0) 1 - 1 (1) Aston Villa
Hodge 85 Parker 19
Sellars made his debut in a much altered team. We were very lucky to squeeze a
draw from a game that should have been lost. Two 1-1 draws, carbon copies of each
other in the space of a month; I don't like the idea of playing the same team too
close to each other. Am I justified.
James.
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33.869 | two former FOREST heros score!!! | MACNAS::MJGREANEY | Bananna Republic | Mon Sep 14 1992 18:21 | 1 |
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33.870 | | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Tue Sep 15 1992 16:40 | 21 |
|
Apparently, the Leeds reserve team is referred to as the 'Dream team'
due to the team consisting of Rocastle, Hodge, Shutt, Sellars etc..
Not surprisingly the team isn't doing to badly in the league.
Re -1
I couldn't agree with you more James. Is this a case of Sky messing
about with the football schedules??
BTW Mel Sterland is hoping to back in training within the next couple
of weeks and if everything goes right he should be in the first team
withion the next month.
Shafiq.
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33.871 | Leeds in Europe | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Tue Sep 15 1992 17:19 | 25 |
|
Off to Stuttgart tonite, so should get time for a couple of beers
in London B4 i get on the coach. Wallace has not gone to Stuttgart due
to his hamstring problem , Dorigo was/is quarrantined on the flight and
the hotel due to his dodgy stomach from the Spain v England game last
week, Wilko doesn't want anyone else getting the bug.
Rumours have it that Wilko is going to play the sweeper system as we
did against Stuttgart in the Makita with Speed playing that role ,
Cantona and Chappie up front.
Our form has not looked very convincing recently and we need to get a
good result in Germany (draw or win) I hope the lack of form and luck
will change tomorrow and get us back on the winning ways of last
season.
We also have a trialist travelling with the party, can't remember his
name at the moment but he chose Leeds instead of Arsenal to trial with
and could be our next signing!!
try and get a match report in on friday
Paul...
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33.872 | Round 2 fading away... | KBOMFG::KOEPPE | Think Imaginary... | Thu Sep 17 1992 11:46 | 15 |
|
Vfb Stuttgart 3:0 Leeds United
Walter 2
Buck
Not a very exciting game, with Leeds the better team in the first half
and Stuttgart the better team in the second half.
Leeds had a few good chances to score, but weren't lucky enough.
Cantona had to be substituted late in the second half due to injury.
IMO 2:1 for Stuttgart would have been a fairer result.
Eduard
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33.873 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | The filth and the furry | Thu Sep 17 1992 13:51 | 8 |
| Football Notes hold's it's breath in anticipation of the first
Leeds noter to type the immortal words,
"It's not over yet."
:^)
barry.
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33.874 | Fair's fair | JGODCL::SHERLOCK | L.U.F.C. The phoenix has risen | Thu Sep 17 1992 15:13 | 17 |
|
Saw the match "live" on RTL +. Stuttgart deserved their victory,
I thought that Leeds deserved a goal in the first-half when
Cantona tried to lob the ball over the keeper. Apart from that
they gave a very fatigued impression.
Full marks to the Swedish ref who didn't fall for the usual
German time wasting tactics, feigning injury and the likes.
Leeds were cut to shreds in the second half :-(
The Empire Strikes Back on the 30th of September...
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33.875 | | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Thu Sep 17 1992 15:31 | 23 |
|
If I said I was p***ed of last night it would be an understatement!
The following questions need to be answered:
* Why were Leeds playing as if this was the home leg. The number of
times Fairclough/Whtye and Dorigo were out of poistion was amazing! How
the hell we didn't lose by a greater score I will never know.
* How the hell did Rocastle miss the chance in the first few minutes of
the game! He was clear through and didn't manage to hit the target.
* When will HW buy a decent right back? Batty was never comfortable in
that position. Leeds need him in the midfield!
Overall I was very pleased with the first half - but the second was a
shambles.
Shafiq.
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33.876 | Injuries.... | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Fri Sep 18 1992 15:57 | 12 |
|
Cantona has sustained a hamstring injury which will rule him out for up
to 8 weeks.
Wallace has the same injury and will be out for a further 6 weeks.
This means that Carl Shutt will make his first full apperance since
January, against Southampton on Saturday.
Shafiq.
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33.877 | | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Wed Sep 23 1992 13:14 | 17 |
|
Leeds 4 Scunthorpe 1
Strachan Hanley (sp??)
Chapman
Speed
Shutt
Leeds return to winning ways!
BTW anyone seen the Leeds away kit? I can't get used to seeing Leeds
in blue.
Shafiq
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33.878 | Not too serious after all | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Wed Sep 23 1992 14:56 | 10 |
33.879 | Get Lost SKY | MACNAS::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Old Game... | Wed Sep 23 1992 19:33 | 16 |
| I know I may be late making this comment but why didn't Leeds object
to having to play a match on a Sunday before travelling to Europe for
a Champions Cup match....
Surely SKY should have been told where to get off , they could have
covered some other match that didn't envolve teams playing in Europe
the following Wednesday. An extra days rest may have saved Leeds from
such a big defeat in Stuggart . From most reports of the match , Leeds
seemed to tire in the second half...
I know Leeds got 160,000 for the match on Sunday from Sky , but if they
get knocked out of Europe they will lose millions by failing to qualify
for the money spinning later stages....
Time will tell
jm
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33.880 | HW DID COMPLAIN | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Thu Sep 24 1992 14:01 | 7 |
|
HW did complain to SKY and asked for the game to be played on Saturday
but SKY refused. HW then tried to go through the FA but they are
powerless.
Shafiq.
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33.881 | sterland injury | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Thu Sep 24 1992 20:28 | 7 |
|
Sterland has gone into hospital for an operation on his ankle. Seems
like he won't be back in the near future.
Shafiq.
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33.882 | Leeds 2 Everton 0 and some interesting facts. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Sep 28 1992 12:19 | 36 |
| A solid 2-0 win on Saturday with only our second clean sheet of the season. It
has extended our unbeaten home stand to 27/28 games. McAllister penalty and a
Chapman special, a header from inside the box.
The unbeaten home streak got me thinking about what is the longest unbeaten home
stand that the club has even had. So, I went delving in the record book and
found some very interesting statistics.
Leeds have been unbeaten at home four seasons
1963/1964
1968/1969
1971/1972
1991/1992
The longest unbeaten runs are as follows
39 May 4 1968 to March 28 1970 ( 33 wins and 6 draws )
34 September 11 1954 to March 10 1956 ( 27 wins and 7 draws )
28 April 17 1971 to September 30 1972 ( 23 wins and 5 draws )
27/28 Currrent run ( ? wins and ? draws )
26 May 11 1963 to September 26 1965 ( 17 wins and 9 draws )
25 February 4 1967 to May 4 1968 ( 21 wins and 4 draws )
20 September 1 1951 to September 10 1952 ( 14 wins and 6 draws )
James.
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33.883 | ZZZZZzzz | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Mon Sep 28 1992 16:10 | 3 |
| DANGER
Outbreak of Cunnovitus at node XSTACY.
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33.884 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Sep 28 1992 17:36 | 5 |
| Re -.1
Ho-ho-ho!!!
James.
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33.885 | Leeds permanent B.S. (3) Bundesbank (0) | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Tue Sep 29 1992 15:15 | 34 |
|
I haven't written in here since my trip to Stuttgart as depression
set in. I think i'm getting over it now and am out of the clinic so can
begin to add some notes!!!
I Have been to a couple of games recently, namely the Southampton
shambles and a good win at home to Everton to put us in the top half of
the table.
Both the above games showed a vast difference in confidence shown by
Leeds, which hopefully will help us by not getting beat by an even larger
defecit tomorrow night against Stuttgart(!!!)
The squad for Stuttgart is complete apart from Sterland and Wallace
Cantona had no problems with his hamstring after the game against
Everton, and if anyone can turn a game he can.
Leeds have completed the signing of two players from French club
Auxerre. The two, Kevin Sharp (18) midfielder,Jamie Forrester (17)
striker, came from the school of excellence over here. Kevin Sharp i
believe had just broken into the 1st team and Leeds went in for them
when their contracts expired recently, prehaps someone in France can
give us some more info ??
K.O. tomorrow is at 8.05 to allow for the t.v. (again)
Paul....
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33.886 | | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Tue Sep 29 1992 19:16 | 12 |
33.887 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Tue Sep 29 1992 20:13 | 7 |
|
I remember reading an article last year when Liverpool played
Auxerre in a cup match. The article was about two young British
lads going through the motions with the club. Maybe it was the
same two.
JN.
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33.888 | | FORTY2::ASH | Grahame Ash @REO | Wed Sep 30 1992 15:02 | 8 |
| Re: Auxerre. I think Standing Room Only also had a feature on these two lads
last year. They made a big thing about what a wonderful set-up it was at
Auxerre - they could continue proper schooling as well as being coached in
football. The point was that there was nothing similar at any British club.
I reckon Leeds have done a good deal here, but we'll see.
grahame
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33.889 | CONGRATS & COMMISERATIONS | MACNAS::SMORAN | | Thu Oct 01 1992 09:11 | 10 |
| Well what more can a team do and still not qualify. You were a great
advert for the way the game should be played. If ye can reproduce this
on a weekly basis, the league is yours for the taking. After last
nights display, the English game can only have benefited. If SKY could
reproduce ten minutes of last nights match each week, I'd say they
would be very happy. Congrats & Commiserations
Stephen
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33.890 | Not Quite Enough | ESSB::BLONG | Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92 | Thu Oct 01 1992 11:20 | 5 |
33.891 | Brilliant entertainment | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Thu Oct 01 1992 11:28 | 13 |
|
Last nights game was possibly the best I've seen in many years. Leeds
did everything possible to claw back the goals conceded in Germany.
They attacked the Germans from the first whistle and I thought were
desperately unlucky not to qualify. They had so many chances yet
couldn't get the 5th goal to go through. Stuttgart were under immense
pressure but were very dangerous on the break and could/should have
scored 2 or 3 themselves, Lucik was brilliant on a least 3 occasions
when the Germans were on a 1 to 1. Anyway, great game from start to
finish.
Danny.
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33.892 | Single even | YUPPY::PANES | She'll always be my cellulite queen | Thu Oct 01 1992 11:50 | 10 |
| Thames T.V in its infinite wisdom decided to only show the highlights.
My heart goes out to Leeds ( Leeds Leeds ) players and supporters. A
splendid performance.
Stuart
BTW Carter:U.S.M are releasing "The Impossible Dream " as their Christmas
singles. Whether this is an oblique reference to Manchester Untieds
league aspirations and record, or attempt to keep Cliff Richard of the
top slot , I do not know, but buy it and be a groovy ****.
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33.893 | So near and yet so far | MOEUR3::PRATLEY | Ark Angel of Evry | Thu Oct 01 1992 12:26 | 23 |
|
Bad luck Leeds !
I heard most of the commentary on the trusty tranny and it sounded like
a fantastic game. I thought when they were 1 - 0 up that they had a
great chance of going through, but when the Germans equalised I must
admit I thought it was all over. However, it was a tremendous fightback
by Leeds and they very nearly sneaked through at the end.
Sadly looking back I have to say that the tie was lost in the first leg
after conceding 3 goals and Fairclough (I think?) missing a good chance
right at the close.
Looking on the bright side, the game was an advertisement for all that
is good in English football, and if Leeds continue to show that sort of
form then I'm sure they'll end the season with a trophy.
(I just wish Everton were playing like that !)
Regards
Ian
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33.894 | So near but yet so far | MACNAS::CWALSH | Life's a beach, then you dive | Thu Oct 01 1992 12:49 | 31 |
| For anyone who doesn't know or hasn't already guessed here's the
result:
Leeds 4 Stutgart 1
Speed 17 ? 25
McCallister (pen) 40
Cantona 65
Chapman 80
Aggr 4-4
Leeds go out on away goal rule.
A brilliant performance by Leeds was not enough to get them through to the
next round. Superb team performance with every player being run to a
standstill.
For me the 2 outstanding players were Lukic and Cantonna.(sp)
Lukic made some unbielevable saves espicially the double save in the
second half when he saved a shot destined for the bottom corner and
then somehow managed to get a hand to the shot from the rebound.
Cantonna's touch was superb every time he touched the ball it landed on
a Leeds player foot and he was brilliant in the air.
Also IMHO I thought Steve Hodge should have been brought on in the
second half, a fresh pair of legs might have made the difference.
Colm.
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33.895 | Well Done Leeds | MACNAS::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Old Game... | Thu Oct 01 1992 14:15 | 8 |
|
Well done Leeds on a brilliant effort , you were oh so close....
Lukic and Cantona were brilliant with McAllister not far behind.
As HW said all players were fantantic .
Now go on and win the Championship and have another go next Season
for the European Cup..
jm
|
33.896 | Tough luck | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Thu Oct 01 1992 14:54 | 7 |
33.897 | OG | ESSB::BLONG | Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92 | Thu Oct 01 1992 14:57 | 5 |
33.898 | Very Unlucky | SIOG::COLMAN | | Thu Oct 01 1992 15:07 | 10 |
|
Just to echo some of the last few replys well done Leeds
you were a credit to the English League.
It's a pity Liverpool do not have the same spirit these days.
Again Congrats and Comiserations.
Stephen C.
|
33.899 | Well DOne Leeds. | DBOT07::RUSSELL | | Thu Oct 01 1992 16:41 | 6 |
| Haven't seen a better game. Great style and skill.
The way all football should be played...always.
Thanks and hard luck.
*Tiger*
|
33.900 | | WARNUT::TPCASE::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Thu Oct 01 1992 17:49 | 5 |
| re .896
If you saw the way Leeds were sliced apart by Stuttgart
then how Leeds conceded 3 goals is obvious. They could
have done the same last night and not complained.
|
33.901 | Exi(c)ting stuff :-( | BIBROK::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Thu Oct 01 1992 18:15 | 29 |
| Wow! What a game.
Leeds played some superb stuff last night, epitomised in the first goal....
Speed got the ball on the centre spot, and layed it off to Strachan.
Strachan looked up, saw Eric the Gaul in the penalty area and launches
perfect ball. Eric climbs above the defender and nods the ball down to
the incomimg bullet that was Speed, and he rifles the ball into the back
of the net full on the volley.
Halfway line to the back of the net without touching the ground.
Lukic played a blinder. If it wasn't for him, then the tie would have
been over in the first half. It's a shame he was so far to his left for their
goal. But on the other hand Buck should never have been given the time he had by the
3 defenders near him.
Hopefully Leeds will have matured for their next jaunt into Europe.
Unfortunately in Germany, they were far too attack minded. A bit more caution
and things could have been very different.
Ah well!! If they continue playing with as much passion as they did last
night then there should definitely be at least one trophy in the cabinet at
the end of the season. Hopefully the same one as last year.
Away to Ipswich on Saturday. I wouldn't like to be in their shoes!!
Al
|
33.902 | I hope I'm right | PAKORA::CPATRICK | a Sausage Supper & A Bottle PILS | Thu Oct 01 1992 22:52 | 7 |
| Leeds may yet get into the next round,according to teletext the
Germans had 4 foreigners on the park at some time near the
end of the match and as we all know.The rules state that only 3
foreigners at anytime are allowed to play.
SQF Jambo
|
33.903 | reinstated | MACNAS::MHASSETT | | Fri Oct 02 1992 10:17 | 5 |
| According to the sports news here ,Leeds are indeed back in the
competition.
Hass...
|
33.904 | | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Fri Oct 02 1992 11:13 | 6 |
| Is this true ???
Have Stuttgart been thrown out or has the second leg got to be
replayed ???
Brian.
|
33.905 | or so I heard | MACNAS::MJGREANEY | Bananna Republic | Fri Oct 02 1992 11:27 | 8 |
|
Latest news is that both teams are included for the next round draw
today,Stuttgart may still be eliminated pending an enquiry by UEFA(??),
and the First-round second leg maybe replayed at Elland Road depending
on UEFA's decision with scores at 0-0.
M.J.
|
33.906 | | FUTURS::FLETCHER | | Fri Oct 02 1992 11:28 | 11 |
| UEFA will make a descision soon. Next week is the only free week before
the next round. Do you think they will throw a German team out. Na nor
do I. Replay At Leeds next week starting from scratch is my bet.
My opinion is that theyve broken the rules so they should be out. No
question.
Nigel
PS The rule they broke was having 4 foreigners in the squad. only
allowed 3 max (hasnt this been discussed before).
|
33.907 | | AYOV14::DDIAMOND | | Fri Oct 02 1992 11:47 | 9 |
|
Rumour has it that a German Journalist was the person who noticed the
offence.
David.
|
33.908 | | YUPPY::PANES | She'll always be my cellulite queen | Fri Oct 02 1992 11:53 | 13 |
|
Whats the difference between Leeds ( Leeds Leeds ) United and Manchester
Untied?
Leeds can read a rule book.
I thenk yew,
Stuart
|
33.909 | | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Fri Oct 02 1992 11:56 | 8 |
| They obviously got confused by the foreigners/assimilated difference.
Who could blame them ?? A replay at Leeds starting at 0-0 is a good
idea, especially if it is as good a game as Wednesday. Throwing them
out would be a little harsh, although by the strict letter of the law
they should be.
Brian
|
33.910 | 3 max on panel | MACNAS::CWALSH | Life's a beach, then you dive | Fri Oct 02 1992 12:10 | 16 |
| The problem was that they had 2 foriegners on the bench and 2 playing
and they brought on the 2 on the bench even though they had a german
on the bench.
Even if they hadn't brought on the 2 on the bench they still would
have been breaking the laws. They are only allowed 3 foriegners on the
panel otherwise Liverpool and Man Utd wouldn't have been bringing in
17 yr olds in to their panel.
I think the rule should be very clearly stated in some rule book.
Obviously there is a lot of confusion over it with both Stutgart and
Man Utd not understanding it properly.
What hope have we of understanding it if the teams involved can't.
Colm.
|
33.911 | Leeds march on? | TRUCKS::SANT | lurching from disaster to apocalypse.. | Fri Oct 02 1992 12:21 | 20 |
|
Well having listened to the game live on R5 on Wednesday night I
am delighted to hear that Leeds will be in the draw today, whether
pending a third game or not. They played with tremendous passion in
the 2nd half particularly, and kept getting a goal when it seemed
out of reach as the minutes ticked away.
I was cheering for you then, as I usually would on a European game,
and hope you can make the 2nd round. Tough on Stuttgart, though. I
don't think they intended to "cheat" in any way...it really was
just down to the pressure of the moment. They played very well for
20 minutes at the end of the first leg when Leeds fell apart, and
missed three very good chances in the first half on Wednesday that
would have made Leeds' second-half storm irrelevant.
Wasn't McAllister superb on Wednesday? I wish we had English
midfielders with his ability - other than Fat-Boy Bamber of
course....8-)
Andy.
|
33.912 | | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Fri Oct 02 1992 13:08 | 4 |
| I believe the UEFA rules governing this situation stipulate that the
tie be awarded to Leeds with a 3-0 scoreline hence the need for a
replay as Stuttgart won the first leg 3-0. My money is on a replay with
the scores all square.
|
33.913 | Where will the replay be played?????????? | KBOMFG::TANNER | We're one, but we're not the same | Fri Oct 02 1992 14:55 | 5 |
|
Lads, when do UEFA decide on this issue?????? And if there is a replay will
it not take place at a neutral venue???????
-dave-
|
33.914 | Fergie was Right | ESSB::BLONG | Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92 | Fri Oct 02 1992 14:58 | 7 |
33.915 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Torpedoed in Moskow.... | Fri Oct 02 1992 15:00 | 12 |
|
The "replay" will be played at Elland Road.
As I understand it, the two teams will start over at 0-0, and play
for 90 mins...
Wonder if away goals still count double for a draw ;-)
Don't know when EUFA decide. Leeds AND Stuttgart are both in the
draw.
Andy.
|
33.916 | ????? | ESSB::BLONG | Rumbleows & Euro Super Cup Winners 92 | Fri Oct 02 1992 15:00 | 5 |
33.917 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Torpedoed in Moskow.... | Fri Oct 02 1992 15:06 | 13 |
|
Why not, Brian? Rules is rules....
The rule about away goals counting double in the event of a tie is
as much a rule as the one about the number of foreign players.
Can't see the difference, personally....
EUFA can (at best as far as Stuttgart are concerned) order a
one-off game to decide it. Why should that be in Stuttgart, since
they broke the rule that caused the re-match?
Andy.
|
33.918 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | One Way Of Life | Fri Oct 02 1992 15:06 | 2 |
| I've been told that UEFA will make the decision today.
|
33.919 | No decision then... | KBOMFG::TANNER | We're one, but we're not the same | Fri Oct 02 1992 15:21 | 9 |
|
Re .915...
Andy how can you "state" that the replay will be played at Elland rd,
and that the game starts at agg 0-0 when UEFA haven't even made a decision yet??
Do you know somebody with inside info in Zurich or what?????????
-dave-
|
33.920 | | MOEUR3::CROUCH | Come and do the kangaroo... | Fri Oct 02 1992 15:28 | 8 |
|
If the reason for a possible replay is that Leeds were awarded the game
3-0 and thus the aggregate was 3-3, then this is an absurd situation.
If Stuttgart had won the first game 4-0, would they then have gone
through 4-3? Surely not. That is effectively saying that you can break
the rules if you're good enough. They must be thrown out.
Andy
|
33.921 | he's got a point.. | FORTY2::FOWLERM | | Fri Oct 02 1992 16:01 | 12 |
| re: -1
I agree entirely.
For example, assume stuttgart had won the first tie 4-0, they could have decided
not to turn up at all, on the basis that Leeds would then win the game 3-0 by
default, and Stuttgart would go through. Why take the risk that leeds might have
come back?
It's got to be Adios Muchachos and see you next year...NOT
I just hope Leeds go on and win it now.
Mike
|
33.922 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | One Way Of Life | Fri Oct 02 1992 16:03 | 3 |
| Leeds play Rangers if they get through. The first leg is at Ibrox.
UEFA meet tomorrow..
|
33.923 | Only 1 British Club in Round 3 | PANIC::ANDERSON | The original Magpies | Fri Oct 02 1992 16:04 | 8 |
|
The decision will be made tomorrow.
The reward will be a trip to.....
Glasgow - to play Rangers
Rob
|
33.924 | Biased, me? | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Fri Oct 02 1992 16:50 | 9 |
| Interesting discussion. That 3:0 default victory is indeed stupid. It's either
Stuttgart out or in, no replay indeed.
You can't play around rules. Stuttgart said they were sorry they did not
mean it. Well, it's like hand ball in the penalty box. You don't mean it
but there you are, penalty.
Leeds to Ibrox (mouth-watering!).
JF
|
33.925 | :^) | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Dirk, Nasty, Stig, Barry, Leggy | Fri Oct 02 1992 17:05 | 6 |
| >> Leeds play Rangers of they get through.
Looks like Leeds are through to round three and lots of spondoolies
then.
barry.
|
33.926 | Rangers v Leeds - what a draw | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Fri Oct 02 1992 17:18 | 17 |
|
>>> Leeds play Rangers of they get through.
>Looks like Leeds are through to round three and lots of spondoolies
>then.
Dangerous ground there Barry. Sounds like English arrogance. A lot of
Jocks would love to take you down a peg or 2.
As for Rangers v Leeds. I wouldn't even try to predict it but WOW.
The mouth waters.
Throwing out VfB Stuttgart would be harsh but the rules stand. What a
stupid mistake to make though. You're not even allowed to have 4
foreigners in the 16 never mind on the field.
Gary.
|
33.927 | YORKSHIRE PUDDING | AYOV17::WGILMOUR | | Fri Oct 02 1992 17:18 | 5 |
| HaHa HaHa we are the Billy Boys
Mouth talk whilst brain sleep
Gers for the cup
|
33.928 | As useful as Ina Wrong's passport ( club-wise) | YUPPY::PANES | more like a tea cup in a storm | Fri Oct 02 1992 17:28 | 19 |
| <<< Note 33.926 by GALVIA::SPAIN "There's always the U.S." >>>
-< Rangers v Leeds - what a draw >-
> >>> Leeds play Rangers of they get through.
> >Looks like Leeds are through to round three and lots of spondoolies
> >then.
> Dangerous ground there Barry. Sounds like English arrogance. A lot of
> Jocks would love to take you down a peg or 2.
>
Gary,
I must say, in his defence, Barry is an Arsenal fan.
Stuart
|
33.929 | | AYOV11::ATODMAN | | Fri Oct 02 1992 17:35 | 20 |
|
I can see UEFA making an example by the way Stuttgart have acted.
Lets face it, Stuttgart have blatantly broke a rule.
Possible Actions : 1) Automatically Knocked out of this Year Tournament
2) Banned from Eurpean Comp's. for a couple of years.
3) Fined Heavily
4) Possible mixture of 1, 2 & 3
If UEFA don't act harshly on this, there will be nothing to stop other
clubs performing the same stunt.
Hang them...thats what I say.
Arnie
|
33.930 | ONLY WINNERS SHOULD GO THROUGH | AYOV17::BGILCHRIST | | Fri Oct 02 1992 17:36 | 10 |
|
REF : 33.925
This is the big time coming to Leeds,so get out your doss bags
and cardboard huts,fling away your meth's bottle's and stick
your Yorkshire pudding right UP your Ilkley moor bar T'at.
The Gers are in town
|
33.931 | It must be luck...luck...luck.....luck.. | OPG::TONY | | Fri Oct 02 1992 17:40 | 6 |
| A lot of debate about this one...I personaly think that Stutgart will be thrown
out of the competition..There will not be a replay at all...So you Yorkshire
Sheeps enjoy the next round..You might have a chance..Rangers have lots of
English players...They might get it wrong as well..!!!
Tony
|
33.932 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Fri Oct 02 1992 17:43 | 11 |
|
Honestly, it really is about time that Rangers came up against
a decent team to really put them to the test. Its been far to
easy for Rangers for a long time now. Merge the English and
Scottish Leagues is what I say. If there is a Welsh one then
include that too. In this scenario Ally Machoist would only
find the net about 15 times a season against real opposition.
JN. :-)
|
33.933 | we shall see.... | TRUCKS::SANT | Torpedoed in Moskow.... | Fri Oct 02 1992 17:46 | 17 |
|
> hang em...that's what I say
Thank you, Genghis.....8-)
Dave (a few back...), my comments were based on the assumption
that EUFA would back down from actually booting Stuttgart out
of the competition altogether and would go with this "3-0" default
for rule-breakers (?). This would leave them with the decision of
where to hold the decider, and since Leeds were the innocent party
then the game could only be played at Elland Road.
By Monday we will all be the wiser...
Rangers v. Leeds? WOW! I'd love to see some of *that*!!
Andy.
|
33.934 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Dirk, Nasty, Stig, Barry, Leggy | Fri Oct 02 1992 17:53 | 11 |
| Two lots of Yorkshire pudding, one mention of sheep, a bottle
of meths thrown in for good measure but so far the good name
of Sir Geoffrey Boycott is still intact. Slipping up their
chaps I'm afraid.
^)
barry
p.s. I'm bet it's a struggle with the caps lock.
|
33.935 | flattery will get you nowhere !!! | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Fri Oct 02 1992 18:32 | 12 |
|
Meths .... isn't that a rough McCewans lager,
Sheep ..... Only when i get the chance
Yorkshire pudding ... Only with sunday lunch after winning the league
1991-92.
Paul....
|
33.936 | Huns Out | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Fri Oct 02 1992 18:51 | 16 |
| Re .927 .930
Gers for the cup, big time coming to Leeds - do me a favour playing in
the English premier is by far more testing than facing the giants of
Falkirk, St johnstone etc 4 times a season. Stick the Huns in a decent
league and I think they would find themselves in mid-table mediocrity.
I mean people like McCall, Stevens etc never exactly set the English
league alight did they.
Roll on the 2nd Round - nothing better than seeing the Huns get
stuffed.
Brian.
p.s. great to have some real banter back in this notesfile is been far
too boring far too long. Here's to the next two weeks.
|
33.937 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Fri Oct 02 1992 18:53 | 4 |
|
Yeah. Right on.
JN.
|
33.938 | | PAKORA::JOWENS | | Fri Oct 02 1992 19:13 | 32 |
|
re.936
Magic, some patter at last!
Trevor Steven & Gary Stevens must have received their English League
medals from a charity!! It's lucky for u that Stevens isn't playing,
because if he wasn't making Speed look stupid he would be
roasting Dorigo. What about the Engurland caps that both of them
received & of course there's a certain Mark Hately to contend with
also. (we know he's a donkey but he's a far better donkey than Chapman)
Will Mel `the monkey' Sterland be playing? We hope so as `Blue'
Pieter Huistra will give him water on the brain, assuming he has
one(doubtful).
I suppose it will be unusual for a minor league team with an even
more minor stadium to come to the finest stadium in the UK. It's a pity
that even the Rangers team are not as good as the stadium they play in
8-)
On a more serious note, what is the capacity at Elland Road and how
many tickets can Rangers expect?
We reckon Leeds may get 3500-4000 tickets for Ibrox. Cost approx 15
quid a head.
BTW this is of course assuming that Stuttgart are already out!!!
See you there!
Jonno
|
33.939 | Poor Mod | FLYWAY::MURRAY | | Fri Oct 02 1992 19:23 | 4 |
|
Looks like you are going to have a busy two weeks Gary
Paul
|
33.940 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Torpedoed in Moskow.... | Fri Oct 02 1992 19:27 | 7 |
|
Leeds will be more than a handful (oh, err missus!!) for Rangers
if they end up matched in Round 2. I agree with you Brian (bloody
hell! There's a first time for everything! ;-)), Rangers only get
one difficult match in about 5 in their regular season.
Andy.
|
33.941 | Irish blue-nose | SIOG::N_DONNELLY | | Fri Oct 02 1992 19:34 | 7 |
| Personally I think Rangers will (hope) beat Leeds. All the talk about
Rangers finishing mid-table in the Prem. League in England goes out the
window if this clash eventually happens.You Leeds boys are in for
another shock me thinks.
Noel
|
33.942 | Can you last for 2 weeks??? | PAKORA::JOWENS | | Fri Oct 02 1992 19:34 | 10 |
|
re.-1
At least the 'Gers got further than Man U, Andy ;-) ;-)
Super Pally, Super Pally, Away, Away, Away.... This seems to have a
ring to it, a ring that Leeds will learn all about!!!! 8^)
Jonno
|
33.943 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Fri Oct 02 1992 19:38 | 22 |
|
The LUFC ticket office have been overrun with calls from
Rangers fans. Both of them have been promised theirs in
the post. Leeds staff were run off their feet, "we were
only prepared for the one call, now look at the mess we
are in."
I was at a Rangers match once in the North stand and I said
to the guy next to me, "Oooooiiiiiiii you in the South stand."
Another game I went to at Ibrox the Rangers manager came up to
me and gave a set of keys. I said, "what are these for ?" He
said to me, "if you're staying to watch the game then lock up
on your way out."
Apparently if you turn up at Ibrox about half an hour before
kickoff with your boots the chances are you'll get a game.
Well, Stevens does it each week.
JN.
|
33.944 | Mural Mayhem!!! | PAKORA::JOWENS | | Fri Oct 02 1992 19:47 | 14 |
|
re.-1
I take it you are an Arsenal fan.(one of the men in the mural)
Rangers(small club as they are) have a mere 30,000 Season ticket
holders and if the nice people at Leeds wish to give us all the tickets
we will fill out there ground as well!!
Jonno 8^)
PS is it true that the `Mural End' makes more noise than the rest of
Highbury at a Arsenal game? ;-)
|
33.945 | it's the way he tells them... | FORTY2::FOWLERM | | Fri Oct 02 1992 20:03 | 11 |
| re: -2
Dear, oh dear.
The old ones are the best, eh?
Well, there's an exception to every rule, I suppose.
Mike
PS Go on Leeds, win it for Blighty.
|
33.946 | | YUPPY::MCCABE | Mike | Fri Oct 02 1992 20:06 | 8 |
| >>PS is it true that the `Mural End' makes more noise than the rest of
>>Highbury at a Arsenal game? ;-)
I don't think so, but I have heard that in a recent IQ test the "fans"
at the "Mural End" averaged a higher percentage than those who regularly
attend 'Gers home games at Ibrox. ;-)
Mike M
|
33.947 | :^) just in case. | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Dirk, Nasty, Stig, Barry, Leggy | Fri Oct 02 1992 20:16 | 12 |
| >>30,000 season ticket holders
That was'nt always the case though was it? Cast your mind back to
the days before the Beast when Rangers were'nt bringing in the
silverware and attendances were'nt much above the 25,000 mark.
6 zillion pounds and English players later, a consistently weak
Celtic driven by an incompetent board, and a premier division
in which most would do well to survive in it's southern counterpart,
provide the answers as to why Rangers dominate Scottish football.
barry.
|
33.948 | | CLARID::STUART | | Fri Oct 02 1992 20:38 | 19 |
| Just before I leave for the weekend I'll leave you with this:
I just heard that there is concern in football circles that a problem would arise if
Leeds replace Stuttgart in the next round. Apparently Stuttgart are a seeded team
and the draw went ahead on the understanding that they were in the competition.
Now if Leeds take their place it means that two non-seeded teams will meet (Rangers
and Leeds). If this is the case it means that the draw did not follow the rules of
the competition. A potentially very interesting situation I think. Could Stuttgart
be thrown out for breaking the rules and then the authorities who threw them out
ignore another infringement of the rules? Would other non seeded teams complain
that Leeds have been treated as a seeded team? Some of them might even demand a
re-draw, especially the team that drew Milan.
Hope you get all this worked out and settled. It just baffles me. It is all so
confusing I wouldn't be totally surprised if they leave both Stuttgart and Leeds in
and throw Rangers out instead, which of course is the only way to stop them winning
the Cup.
Gordon.
|
33.949 | Mmmmmmmmm...Interesting !1 | PAKORA::JJACK | Once a Tim..always a Tim ! | Fri Oct 02 1992 23:27 | 14 |
|
Just to add fuel to the fire.............
I hear the reason UEFA didn't make a decision on whether Stuttgart are
to be thrown out or not is because they too have lodged a complaint
saying that Leeds fielded 4 foreigners.
Gary Speed is apparently Welsh, although the English FA say he's
eligible I believe UEFA feel otherwise.
Can any of you Leeds fans clarify ?
I know McAllister & Cantona werer playing, but who was the 3rd
foreigner if Speed was supposedly the 4th ??
|
33.950 | | PAKORA::CPATRICK | a Sausage Supper & A Bottle PILS | Fri Oct 02 1992 23:30 | 7 |
| EUFA are having a meeting tomorrow afternoon and
LEEDS will know by 5:00pm what is going to happen.
SQF Jambo
|
33.951 | Strachan rumoured to be SCottish (:==:) | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | It wasn't supposed to end this way | Sat Oct 03 1992 00:41 | 7 |
| re .949,
Strachan is/was the 4th.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
33.952 | | MASALA::CPATRICK | a Sausage Supper & A Bottle PILS | Sun Oct 04 1992 04:10 | 7 |
| news just in......
Leeds V Stuttgart to be replayed at a neutral ground,with the score at
3-3
SQF Jambo
|
33.953 | no Leeds in Europe | AYOV17::BGILCHRIST | | Sun Oct 04 1992 13:50 | 5 |
|
Ipswich 4 Leeds 2
John Wark a 36 year old gave you the run around.
|
33.954 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Dirk, Nasty, Stig, Barry, Leggy | Mon Oct 05 1992 13:11 | 12 |
| The Leeds v Stuttgart tie is to be played in Rotterdam I believe. If
I were a Rotterdam-er I'd be a bit worried about some of the right
wing loonies that the event might attract.
This whole affair really does make UEFA look like a bunch of prats.
Would they have been so lenient had Leeds been in Stuttgart's position?
I think not. And as for the FA, they did'nt even bother to turn up
in Zurich to lend some weight to Leeds' case.
barry.
|
33.955 | Landsdowne rd. want replay | MACNAS::CWALSH | Life's a beach, then you dive | Mon Oct 05 1992 14:18 | 17 |
| RE. Note 33.949
< Just to add fuel to the fire.............
< I hear the reason UEFA didn't make a decision on whether Stuttgart are
< to be thrown out or not is because they too have lodged a complaint
< saying that Leeds fielded 4 foreigners.
< Gary Speed is apparently Welsh, although the English FA say he's
< eligible I believe UEFA feel otherwise.
< Can any of you Leeds fans clarify ?
< I know McAllister & Cantona werer playing, but who was the 3rd
< foreigner if Speed was supposedly the 4th ??
As far as I know McAllister,Cantona & Strachan were the 3 foriegners
and Speed was/is an assimilated player.
|
33.956 | | FORTY2::ASH | Grahame Ash @REO | Mon Oct 05 1992 16:30 | 6 |
| And going back a bit, what does happen if Leeds win? Someone has complained
about 2 unseeded sides meeting -have UEFA said that's no problem?
Anyway, all the best to Leeds for the replay.
g
|
33.957 | Complete re-draw ??? | SIOG::COLMAN | | Mon Oct 05 1992 16:50 | 7 |
|
I believe Steau Bucherest objected to Leeds going thru after the draw
was made because they would have been seeded for the second round
and would have avoided Marsellie (who they got).
Stephen C.
|
33.958 | When?? | FAILTE::PAGES | | Mon Oct 05 1992 17:06 | 7 |
|
When will the match be played???
Reports are that McAllister will be required for international
work!!
Steve P.
|
33.959 | What do you consider fair???? | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Mon Oct 05 1992 17:13 | 24 |
|
Leeds have decided not to appeal about the decision to have to
replay Stuttgart this weekend. They have however complained and are
trying to get changed the location of the fixture (Switzerland or
Holland).
Wilkinson gave a number of points as to why he thinks the tie should
be played again at Leeds...
1) Leeds were/are not the guilty party and have committed no
offence.
2) If extra time was to played at a 3-3 draw it would have been
played at Elland Rd.
3) It's a darn sight harder for us Leeds fans to get to games in
mainland Europe than it will be for the Germans!!!
Paul....
|
33.960 | McAllister should play. | KURMA::JOWENS | | Mon Oct 05 1992 17:30 | 8 |
| re.-2
McAllister will be required for international duty but Roxburgh
said in the Scottish press this morning that he would not invoke FIFA's
ruling when it was such an important game for Leeds.
Jonno
|
33.961 | | SHAWB1::STOCKMANS | | Mon Oct 05 1992 17:35 | 7 |
| Good on yer Roxburgh!
Leeds have done us proud up to now.
Let's hope they make it all the way.
Simon
|
33.962 | Lens (near Lille) it could be | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Tue Oct 06 1992 14:57 | 12 |
33.963 | | SHAWB1::STOCKMANS | | Tue Oct 06 1992 15:18 | 2 |
| The Daily Star has mentioned the game being played
at the Nou Camp on friday night!
|
33.964 | | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Tue Oct 06 1992 15:55 | 12 |
|
Re: -1
That means Leeds play 2 games in 3 days.
They play in the Coca Cola Cup on Wednesday and then Struttgart on
Friday. Hardly seems fair!
BTW has anyone heard the Hamlet advert on radio - it basically takes
the p**s out of the germans.
Shafiq
|
33.965 | | XSTACY::KMCGRATH | Long road, patient donkey | Tue Oct 06 1992 16:00 | 1 |
| whats that got to do with anything?
|
33.966 | Sorry.... | SUBURB::LAINSBURYA | | Tue Oct 06 1992 16:30 | 6 |
| Have you heard John Major complaining about it now ?
Stuttgart have more foreign reserves than the Bank of England !!
Andy..
|
33.967 | Barcelona 8:15 Friday Night Game on. | SAC::MAGUIRE_G | | Tue Oct 06 1992 16:46 | 7 |
| Yes,
It certainly is Barcelona. 8:15 P.M. friday night.
It really is unfair.
G.
|
33.968 | info please.. | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Oct 06 1992 17:19 | 7 |
|
What are the fixtures between now and when we play Sheffield United
on the 17th???
What are our chances going to be??
SteveP
|
33.969 | No crowd trouble | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Tue Oct 06 1992 20:44 | 4 |
33.970 | Things are never easy!!! | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Tue Oct 06 1992 21:04 | 10 |
|
The Scunthorpe game tomorrow night has been cancelled i'm just
looking into flights to Barcelona !!!!(could have been further away
!!!!)
Paul...
|
33.971 | | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Wed Oct 07 1992 17:54 | 7 |
| Just heard a rumour that Leeds have had to forfeit the Scunthorpe game.
Apparently, the rules state that all games must be completed by the
time of the draw - which is tonight.
Leeds have made the decision to go for the Euro game!
Shafiq.
|
33.972 | no no no | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Wed Oct 07 1992 18:43 | 6 |
| you are joking I take it ??? If that was the case - it isn't because
what would happen if it snowed all day and the game was postponed -
Leeds would surely put out a reserve team at least and take the fine
for deliberately fielding an understrength team.
Brian
|
33.973 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | One Way Of Life | Wed Oct 07 1992 18:52 | 8 |
| That is a bit off, if its true. Surly the football league or
whoever runs this now would make a special allowance for the European
tie which has to be played Friday because of UEFA.
I agree with 972 about fielding a weekened team because after all they
are 4-1 up.
**Gary**
|
33.974 | | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Wed Oct 07 1992 19:59 | 11 |
|
re: -1, 2
The guy who told me said he wasn't joking!
He said he heard it on the news broadcast on the radio.
Shafiq.
|
33.975 | | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Thu Oct 08 1992 11:14 | 3 |
| I think he's winding you up, maybe ??
Brian.
|
33.976 | On the Box | WOTVAX::MACDONALDI | Stalybridge Celtic | Thu Oct 08 1992 12:01 | 4 |
| The Leeds - Stuggart game is live on the Granada region tv at 8pm
tomorrow night...
mac
|
33.977 | NO BULL!!!! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Oct 08 1992 16:08 | 13 |
|
I'm off to Barcelona tonight so i will try and get a report in next
week somtime all being well and i don't get a dodgy bug!!!!!
Result i predict LEEDS UNITED 2
VFB STUTTGART 0
Paul.....
|
33.978 | | PEKING::JOLLYL | Viva la rock .... the killer lives on | Thu Oct 08 1992 16:11 | 2 |
|
Best of luck, have a good trip.
|
33.979 | Live on central ?? | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Thu Oct 08 1992 16:14 | 3 |
| is the game live in any of the other tv regions ?? esp. Central.
Brian.
|
33.980 | No interference with Coronation Street | SIOG::COLMAN | | Thu Oct 08 1992 17:13 | 11 |
| In reply to previous notes
1. Leeds were included in the third round draw last night. The
winner of their tie is away, but I cannot remember who.
2. To the best of my knowledge the Stuttgart game is live on most
if not all ITV regions starting at 8:00 with kick-off at 8:15.
Stephen C.
|
33.981 | !@#$%^ | PEKING::BAREFIELDA | NEVER FELT MORE LIKE SINGING THE BLUES | Thu Oct 08 1992 17:40 | 3 |
|
Leeds will be away at watford in the Coca Cola Cup if they win..
|
33.982 | best of luck | MACNAS::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Old Game... | Thu Oct 08 1992 18:53 | 12 |
|
Best of Luck Leeds tomorrow night..in Barcelona...
HW is having problems at right back , I'm sure David Batty hates
playing there , also your Central Defence is leaking an awful lot
of goals..
Should be a good game tomorrow night , looking forward to watching it.
Come on Leeds , you can do it
jm
|
33.983 | leaky at the back | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Oct 08 1992 19:49 | 7 |
|
the score tommorow will either be 2-1 to leeds or 3-2 to leeds
No way will we keep a clean sheet (I wish it were otherwise).
Leeds Leeds LEEDS
SteveP
|
33.984 | Come on you blues (or is it yellows?) | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Thu Oct 08 1992 20:38 | 3 |
33.985 | | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Thu Oct 08 1992 20:51 | 13 |
|
Having seen the way Frankfurt stuffed them on Sunday night 4-0
I think Stuttgart Football club is feeling just a little embarrassed
I shouldn't be surprised if Stuttgart have thrown in the towel...
They're the laughing stock of European Football at the moment. Let's
hope Leeds capitalise on this....
The irony of it all is that had it happened in Germany i.e. the German
Cup....no excuses ..next time read the rule book...which is exactly
what Leeds did regarding Speed....
Dezzz.
|
33.986 | spot-kicks will decide it after extra time.. | TRUCKS::SANT | Torpedoed in Moskow.... | Fri Oct 09 1992 11:18 | 4 |
|
Go to it, Leeds! Good luck. I'll be watching on the box.
Andy.
|
33.987 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Dirk, Nasty, Stig, Barry, Leggy | Fri Oct 09 1992 20:18 | 3 |
| Good luck Leeds Leeds Leeds!
barry.
|
33.988 | Final Result | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Sat Oct 10 1992 01:03 | 8 |
|
Leeds 2 Stuttgart 1
Strachen 32mins Golke 38mins
Shutt 76mins
Leeds thru' to play Rangers
|
33.989 | Boawing !! | PAKORA::JJACK | Once a Tim..always a Tim ! | Sat Oct 10 1992 13:00 | 11 |
|
Well, as much as I hate to admit it, Rangers have nothing to fear in
round 2 of the European Cup. Judging by last nights performance,
I predict the Huns will win 2-0 at Ibrox & draw 1-1 at Elland Rd.
Here's hoping I'm proved wrong
SQFCSC
|
33.990 | | PEKING::WILSOND1 | DAVE WILSON @WLC | Mon Oct 12 1992 11:38 | 6 |
|
Good result..Justice was done.
All that is required now is to stuff the English Jocks.
Dave...
|
33.991 | Leeds 3 rangers 1 agg. score | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Mon Oct 12 1992 13:10 | 13 |
| When is the first leg ?? Is it a week on wednesday ??
If Leeds can give the same commitment as they gave in the 2nd leg and
replay against Stuttgart then they should have no problem disposing of
the Huns.
Biggest advantage for Leeds will be the fact that they are playing
quality opposition week in week out. Rangers face quality opposition
only 4 times a season in the tin-pot premier and therefore will
struggle against Leeds although they are only mid table in the English
premier.
Brian.
|
33.992 | Out-in-out-in-out-in? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Oct 12 1992 14:22 | 23 |
33.993 | Barcelona Barmy army | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Mon Oct 12 1992 17:55 | 27 |
|
James,
Yes i was there, i think we had more fans there than
Stuttgart!!!. About 1500 potato's to get in (169=1 pound), but what a
magnificent stadium. Their second team stadium across the road holds
about 20k and would put most premier clubs stadia to shame.
Not a particularly brilliant game but a sweet victory none the less.
Thought that Newsome had a good game, Eric tired early (again) and
Strachs played a blinder. Don't know the situation about the Rangers
tickets yet but will write here when i do.
I watched the highlights twice on Eurosport over there and Archie
Macpherson kept calling Whyte, Fairclough and vice-versa all the way
through the commentary, really annoying.
I managed to pick up a bug or two (of the stomach variety) which
i'm just recovering from but it was worth the trip. Looks like Watford
in the league cup assuming we finish off Scunthorpe ,Wilko left Wallace
out on friday which was good for us as we may need him for Sheffield
next saturday, Dorigo missed the first training session with England
due to a sore toe, Should be fit for the game (don't suppose he
will be chosen though!!!!)
Paul....
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33.994 | Congrats. | UPROAR::WOODWARDD | Dave Woodward | Tue Oct 13 1992 10:49 | 12 |
|
Justice for Leeds in an open and Shutt case !!!
Good headline from a national on sat am eh !!!
Well done Leeds.
dw.(Thfc)
|
33.995 | No Away Supporters ! | MASALA::JOWENS | | Tue Oct 13 1992 12:21 | 7 |
|
It would appear that Leeds & Rangers have decided to ban away
supporters from both legs. I don't think this is fair, do you? We are
supposed to live in a free country and all that.
Jonno
|
33.996 | Let them in | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Tue Oct 13 1992 13:52 | 11 |
| Once again the police have stepped in and are trying to run the game.
They have already ruined the FA Cup by forcing the introduction of
penalties and are now trying to spoil an interesting Euro tie.
The atmosphere could be electric but I don't see why this necesarily
means there would be trouble. There is never any hooliganism when
Scottish fans are involved - just ask the McNoters, so I am sure all
travelling Rangers fans would walk away from any potentially violent
confrontations :-)
Brian.
|
33.997 | The boys in blue | FORTY2::FOWLERM | | Wed Oct 14 1992 13:10 | 14 |
| Standing Room Only did an interesting article on the police during the last show.
I don't know about you, but I was unaware that the police get to decide how many
officers you need, and then charge you accordingly. If you don't agree though,
you can always call the game off. Hardly fair, really.
Surely the clubs should be able to have some input into policing levels. The old
chairman of Aldershot, in their league days, claimed that the police were at
least partly to blame for his club going out of business. Apparently 25% of the
club's income, or so he claimed, was going to the police.
Still, I suppose they have to do something with their Saturday afternoons.
Mike
|
33.998 | | FORTY2::ETHERIDGE | No way figure 4 | Wed Oct 14 1992 17:54 | 8 |
| >> chairman of Aldershot, in their league days, claimed that the police were at
>> least partly to blame for his club going out of business. Apparently 25% of the
>> club's income, or so he claimed, was going to the police.
And also interesting to hear that now when playing in Diadora Div. 3 they get
similar sized crowds and have virtually no Police there at all.
Ian.
|
33.999 | Sheff Utd tomorrow. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Fri Oct 16 1992 16:48 | 10 |
| Looks like Cantona is back for tomorrows game versus Sheff Utd. Wallace is on
the mend and should be back soon also.
It looks like already that Leeds will have serious fixture congestion if we
continue our progress in the cups. Anyone know when the return of the Scunthorpe
match is pencilled for?
Anyone got any other news? The newspapers have been quiet recently.
James.
|
33.1000 | Watford - Nov 10?? | YUPPY::TAYLORM | | Fri Oct 16 1992 17:39 | 4 |
| All i know is that Watford v Leeds (or Scunthorpe :-)) is
scheduled for Tues November 10th
Martin
|
33.1001 | Home win. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Oct 19 1992 12:50 | 14 |
| Leeds 3 - 1 Sheff Utd
A good solid home win on Saturday with Chapman, Speed and Whyte (of all people)
scoring. Whyte's only 2nd or 3th goal for the club. Leeds seem to have played
well, but Stuart Hall did say in his poetic manner that Leeds still are
uncomfortable at right back. Other than that Leeds have a rounded look about
them.
Roll on Rangers on Wednesday night. They seem to have been a little preoccupied
as them only won 1-0 where an average of 6 or 7 goals could have been expected.
Maybe they are worried about Leeds on Wednesday. Their bubble (Rangers) is about
to burst :).
James.
|
33.1002 | Leeds Who????? | MASALA::BFINLAY | THE HIBINATOR | Mon Oct 19 1992 14:41 | 13 |
| RE: 1001
What do you mean Rangers were expected to win by 6 or 7 goals on Saturday,
Do you know who Hibernian Football Club actually are.The last league
match between Hibs and Rangers at Easter road was a non scoring draw.
Hibs beat Rangers last season in the Skol Cup Semi-Final which they
then went on to win.I think you may be in for a bit of surprise when
you come up to Ibrox and see the standard of Scottish football.Rangers
were never expected to win by 6 or 7 goals against Hibs. Leeds will
have to turn in some display to take anything away from Ibrox. Hard
to take much out of pre season friendlies but the team who have been
dominating English football were well beating by Hibs 3-0. That team
being Blackburn Rovers.
|
33.1003 | | REPAIR::COSSEY | | Mon Oct 19 1992 16:03 | 9 |
|
re.1002
Do us a favour, we know there's only two teams in Scotland and Hibs
certainly isn't one of them, Leeds will show over the two legs how
much better the English Premier league really is and how much the
Scottish league is behind ours...
Neil...
|
33.1004 | | KURMA::SNEIL | Tartan Army | Mon Oct 19 1992 16:24 | 4 |
|
So who's the two teams,Rangers and who ??????
SQF Blue nose
|
33.1005 | Rangers reserves? | MOEUR3::CROUCH | No FT, No Andrex | Mon Oct 19 1992 16:31 | 0 |
33.1006 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Oct 19 1992 17:26 | 6 |
|
There ARE only two teams in Scotland. Lossiemouth United and
Fraserburgh Rangers.
JN.
|
33.1007 | Rangers to win | SIOG::N_DONNELLY | | Mon Oct 19 1992 19:18 | 6 |
| As a neutral(not Scottish or English) I personally think that Rangers
would hold their own in the English Prem.I also think that they will
beat Leeds.I'm looking forward to it, it should be a cracker.
Noel
|
33.1008 | Attack of the Jambos in the Leeds note :-). | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Oct 19 1992 19:21 | 0 |
33.1009 | I'm shouting for ye Leeds :-( | MACNAS::CWALSH | Life's a beach, then you dive | Tue Oct 20 1992 19:46 | 8 |
| Any team news on tomorrow night, I hear Wallace is back in contention
It doesn't really matter what team the Leeds boys play they're still
going to stuff 'em and prove that there's only two premier leagues....
The English abd Irish of course....
Now Blackburn and Bohs would make a good game :-)
Colm.
|
33.1010 | Score on the door!! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Oct 20 1992 19:50 | 6 |
|
What's the score going to be?
I say 2-1 to Leeds Leeds Leeds
SteveP
|
33.1011 | Leeds 3 Rangers 1 on aggregate | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Wed Oct 21 1992 11:12 | 24 |
| Tonight's the night for the battle of Britain round 1.
Did anybody see the Mirror yesterday with the article by Richard Gough
saying that Ally McCoist is the best striker in Britain. What is Gough
on. Everybody knows that if McCoist played week in week out against
quality sides rather thatn Falkirk, Motherwell and Airdrie - he would
struggle to have a third of the total he has so far this year.
As for the rubbish some people have been talking about Rangers having
the best stadium in Britain. What does the place hold???? Not even
40,000. If the Stadium isn't big enough to cope with the demand of a
2nd round Euro tie and instead bans away fans - how can it claim to be
Britains number one stadium.
For tonight I see it being a close game. The Rangers forward line will
be up against a mediocre premier league defence but that will be enough
to snuff out the "threat" of McCoist & Co. But the Huns will hold firm
at the back and will sneak a 0-0 draw.
Any other predictions/comments.
Brian.
|
33.1012 | 2-0 Rangers | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Oct 21 1992 11:26 | 18 |
|
re last
Your comments about Ibrox are a bit out. It is without doubt the best
club stadium in Britain, I think the crowd limit is 44,000. No other
club ground in the country has the facilities that Ibrox has, nor do
they get a full-house at virtually every home game.
The reason why there are no away supporters is do to with safety and
security reasons. There will be no Rangers supporters at Leeds for the
2nd leg either.
Back to the game itself, it should be very close but I reckon Hateley
and McCoist will get enough chances against what I consider to be a
pretty average Leeds central defence.
Danny.
|
33.1013 | Light blue touch paper and retire... | WOTVAX::SHAW27::WATTERSONP | thuthring thuckatans | Wed Oct 21 1992 11:38 | 49 |
|
Let's have a quick 'Cunno-type' assessment of the key men...
John Lukic -. Andy Goram
experienced keeper, Failed in the English second
two English championship medals. division at Oldham - never
Solid on crosses and a good shot looked special playing for
stopper Scotland - has the added
disadvantage of being
a Scottish goalie.
9 out of 10 2 out of 10
Chirs Fairclough John Brown
A tower of strength in Leeds succesful Average player - can't even
championship season. No real weaknesses. make the Scottish team.
8 out of 10 3 out of 10
Chris Whyte Richard Gough
Effective in the air, good on the Had a nightmare spell at
ground. Tottenham, another player
who failed to make the grade
in England.
8 out of 10 3 out of 10
Gordon Strachen Trevor Steven
Getting on a bit, but still the A class player at Everton,
man who makes Leeds tick. but too many years in lower
leagues have blunted him.
8 out of 10 5 out of 10
Lee Chapman Ally McCoist
Lethal in the air, and good on Yet another player who
the ground for a big player. failed to make the grade
in England - scores a lot
against the Airdries and
Falkirk, but consistantly
fails to score in Europe or
when playing for Scotland.
9 out of 10 4 out of 10
Paul - lots of :-)s
|
33.1014 | WE R A PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | MASALA::SNEIL | Play that funky music white boy | Wed Oct 21 1992 11:39 | 17 |
|
Here we go again...The Ally McCoist is/isn't the best striker in
Britain.The Fact is he has scored 24 goals this season and is
consistently the best striker in Scotland,Last season he won the golden
boot so like it or not,he IS the best striker in Britain.
As for Ibrox,It hold approx 44,000 and has by far the best amenities
for fans.Is there any ground in England that has TV's inside,so when you
go for food you can still watch the game.
The reason way fans have been band is Rangers didn't want any English
hooligans coming up to cause trouble and the fact that the could still
sell about another 10,000 tickets to home fans.
Rangers to win 2-0 tonight and a 1-1 draw in the second leg.
SQF blue nose
|
33.1015 | | MASALA::SNEIL | Play that funky music white boy | Wed Oct 21 1992 11:42 | 5 |
| re .1013
I was getting very upset there till I seen all those smiles.
|
33.1016 | Facts not Fiction! | PAKORA::JOWENS | | Wed Oct 21 1992 11:42 | 18 |
| re.-2
Please get your facts before you start sounding like a tabloid
reporter.
The Ibrox capacity at the moment is 38000 due to EUFA regs for
standing areas which restricts the crowd limit.It will soon hold 45000
(all seated).
The reason for no away support at either game is that of security NOT
due to lack of ground capacity.
Jonno
|
33.1017 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Wed Oct 21 1992 12:33 | 19 |
|
The only way Rangers would get a capacity crowd along to watch
them would be if U2 or Simply Red were playing at Ibrox at the
same time.
Apart from that why do Rangers have so many supporters ? Simple,
they are the best team in Scotland and the syndrome is that the
people support the best team. Its similar to the attitude that
woman have where they support ANY team wearing red shirts. Teams
wearing red shirts who have had successes between them are Arsenal
and Liverpool. Both of these teams BTW, even on their present form,
would emerge victorious over Glasgee.
It'll be close tonight but I reckon Leeds will edge passed on a
scoreline of 65 - 0.
Never before in the field of human conflict an all that..........
JN. )
|
33.1018 | Facts, not fiction | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Oct 21 1992 12:55 | 16 |
|
Dear oh dear,
if all you foreigners checked your stats before entering notes you
might get your facts right. Rangers play to a full-house virtually
every home game. They are the best supported team in Britain this
season. I do believe that an average division 1 team in Newcastle are
currently getting bigger gates that the teams in the premier league
down south.
Why do Rangers have so many supporters? Simple, they are successful on
and off the field with a wee bit of religion thrown in to boot. Any
team that is successful will attract more supporters to their games.
Danny.
|
33.1019 | Big fish in the smallest pond ever dug | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Wed Oct 21 1992 13:04 | 8 |
| Danny,
I don't suppose you'll need breakfast today after chewing on all that
bait this morning.
Come on Leeds Leeds
Brian.
|
33.1020 | | KURMA::SNEIL | Play that funky music white boy | Wed Oct 21 1992 13:11 | 5 |
|
For a small pond yer man Sterland drowned in it. @:^))
|
33.1021 | GERS | AYOV14::BGILCHRIST | | Wed Oct 21 1992 13:23 | 6 |
|
Prediction for to night..........
Rangers 1 leeds 0
|
33.1022 | FACT | ESSB::BLONG | I Was There on the Stretford End | Wed Oct 21 1992 13:57 | 10 |
33.1023 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Well Des, it was a bit of a bobbler.... | Wed Oct 21 1992 14:14 | 5 |
|
.....and Newcastle are hardly 'average' anyway ;-) (11 wins from the
off).
Tim
|
33.1024 | WHO... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Oct 21 1992 14:22 | 6 |
|
Aye, but their playing in a mickey-mouse league!!
:-) :-) :-)
|
33.1025 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Well Des, it was a bit of a bobbler.... | Wed Oct 21 1992 14:34 | 5 |
|
...and Falkirk, Partick, Motherwell, Airdrie etc. aren't fully paid up
Walt Disney fan club members ? ;-)
Tim
|
33.1026 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Wed Oct 21 1992 14:45 | 4 |
|
I've heard that Mickey Mouse has a Glasgow Rangers watch.
JN.
|
33.1027 | | KURMA::SNEIL | Upward and onward | Wed Oct 21 1992 14:49 | 2 |
|
Ye! He couldn't get his Leeds one to work.
|
33.1028 | Leeds to win 3-1 at Elland Road. | PEKING::WILSOND1 | DAVE WILSON @WLC | Wed Oct 21 1992 15:05 | 9 |
|
Good Luck to Leeds tonight.
Hopefully they will go through over two legs,although it will be hard
tonight.
I'll go for 1-1
Dave...
|
33.1029 | I think ... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Oct 21 1992 15:18 | 13 |
| Leeds have a tough assignment tonight in Glasgow. To get away with a result will
set Leeds in very good stead for the home leg. This is a critical game for
both leagues as for years to come, whoever wins this game will *claim* that their
league is better. I hope that Leeds can win and prove that the English league is
much stronger in depth. However, saying that I think that Rangers are a good
side but they do play against the likes of Falkirk, Motherwell and other non
entities everyday. This does tend to disadvantage a team when they play good
opposition => Leeds.
Who won't be watching the game on the box tonight? I think that Leeds will
escape with a 1-1 draw going 1-0 down early and get a late equaliser :-).
James.
|
33.1030 | what a view!! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Wed Oct 21 1992 15:43 | 9 |
|
As I (a leeds supporter) live within spitting distance of Ibrox I can't
wait till I see the 42,000 decimated rangers fans drag their feet down
my street on the way home after the match thinking on what might have
been..
what a sight
SteveP
|
33.1031 | Rangers 1 Leeds 2 | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Said you came from Memphis | Wed Oct 21 1992 15:46 | 10 |
| Re .Unofficial British Championship
1989. Rangers 1 Arsenal 2 (yes at Ibrox).
Higher stakes tonight but it does'nt mean the above game was'nt
competitive. A lovely goal from Paul (remember him?) Davis if I
remember rightly.
barry.
|
33.1032 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Wed Oct 21 1992 17:26 | 80 |
|
EUROPEAN RECORDS
RANGERS - In European Cup
P W D L F A
61 28 10 23 97 96
LEEDS - In European Cup
20 14 1 5 48 16
To me its obvious that LEEDS have the better record. Its amazing the
number of goals conceded by Rangers as is the number of goals for. Look
at the number of goals for Leeds. Almost half as many as Rangers in
a third of the total games played.
The two comparisons demonstrate how easy it has been for Rangers to
get into Euro Cup competitions as they have had little competition
in order to qualify over the years. Leeds on the other hand play football
in a far more competitive arena hence the increased difficulty in being
able to qualify.
RANGERS RECORD AGAINST ENGLISH OPPOSITION IN ALL EURO COMPS
COMP OPPONENT SEASON RESULTS
CWC Wolves (sf) 60/61 W 2-0 (H), D 1-1 (A)
CWC Spurs (2nd) 62/63 L 2-5 (A), L 2-3 (H)
FAIRS CUP Leeds (qf) 67/68 D 0-0 (H), L 0-2 (A)
FAIRS CUP Newcastle (sf) 68/69 D 0-0 (H), L 0-2 (A)
LEEDS RECORD AGAINST SCOTTISH OPPOSITION IN ALL EURO COMPS
FAIRS CUP Killy (sf) 66/67 W 4-2 (H), D 0-0 (A)
FAIRS CUP Hibs (3rd) 67/68 W 1-0 (H), D 0-0 (A)
FAIRS CUP Rangers (qf) 67/68 D 0-0 (A), W 2-0 (H)
FAIRS CUP Dundee (sf) 67/68 D 1-1 (A), W 1-0 (H)
EURO CUP Celtic (sf) 69/70 L 0-1 (H), L 1-2 (A)
UEFA CUP Hibs (2nd) 73/74 D 0-0 (H), D 0-0 (H)**
** LEEDS won on penalties.
As can be seen from the Rangers table they have only beaten one
English team, Wolves who are a mediocre team at that. It is fair
to say that in Euro competitions Rangers have had a tough time
against English sides.
Apart from the 69/70 loss to Celtic the Leeds table shows nothing
but success against Scottish clubs in Euro comps. The away record
is very impressive.
If previous records are anything to go buy, and whose to say that
they are ? then the best Rangers can hope for at home is a draw.
Enjoy and lets hope for an entertaining game tonight.
JN.
|
33.1033 | WHO do I make the cheque payable to ???? | MASALA::SNEIL | Upward and onward | Wed Oct 21 1992 17:43 | 18 |
|
Re .1032
On paper Leeds record looks good.........until you consider that
leeds were still under the "bribe" tactics of Don Revie.. 8-))))
ps: Who the hell are Killy ??????
Do you by chance mean Kilmarnock ( then that should be Killie)
SQF Killie........
|
33.1034 | RFC 5 LUFC 0 | FAILTE::WALLACED | DAVID WALLACE | Wed Oct 21 1992 18:10 | 13 |
| Rangers will show who's boss tonight. They are by far the greatest
club in Britain, if not Europe. Leeds? Leeds who? In Scotland
every wee boy wants to grow up and play for Rangers. What wee boy
would want to play for Leeds, unless as a punishment. I'm sick of all
the arrogant empty-headed comments from people who have never seen the
game played properly unless they have stayed in Scotland. My
prediction for tonight. A walkover for Rangers. At least 5-0 to
Rangers. Oh way oh way oh way!
David
-RFC-
|
33.1035 | What will it be like by 5:30? | YUPPY::OHAGANB | Dirk, Nasty, Stig, Barry, Leggy | Wed Oct 21 1992 18:24 | 10 |
| > They are by far the greatest club in Britain, if not Europe.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There goes a man with a wicked sense of humour. Oh I how I
laughed. Now back to the bullsh*t flying from both sides of
the border.
:^)
barry.
|
33.1036 | also ... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Oct 21 1992 18:39 | 9 |
| re -3
Its ominously Leeds for tonight and
re -1
it will be FAILTE to leeds into the Q-F's of the Euro cup and SLAINTE to Rangers.
James.
|
33.1037 | Entertaining isn't it!!!! | MASALA::JOWENS | | Wed Oct 21 1992 18:59 | 10 |
|
After watching Sunday's Italian game they should call off the European
Cup and just give to AC Milan.
At least it would stop the slagging session......on second thoughts
this slagging each other off is good entertainment. Kepp up the abuse
levels guys. ;-)
Jonno
|
33.1038 | "" GER-RIFIC! "" 8^} | AYOV14::BGILCHRIST | | Thu Oct 22 1992 11:01 | 12 |
|
All after me...............
Super Ally Super Ally away away away !!!!!!!!!!
If Rangers are english 3rd div class ? what the hell are Leeds
MR NIJAG IF THAT IS YOUR NAME STCK THIS IN YOUR RECORD
BOOK
**************** RANGERS 2 LEEDS 1 ****************
|
33.1039 | Lucky Ally | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Thu Oct 22 1992 11:30 | 6 |
| "Super Ally"
Do me a favour, if Leeds had had a half decent goalie he wouldn't have
had a sniff. Super Ally would struggle to get a game for Sunderland.
Brian.
|
33.1040 | two weeks of happiness!! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Oct 22 1992 12:23 | 6 |
|
Leeds Leeds Leeds had to score for rangers just to wake them up 8-)
5-0 to Leeds in two weeks...
SteveP
|
33.1041 | Super Ally....Super Ally....Ally,Ally,Ally. | MASALA::ISUTHERLAND | More personal names than SNEIL | Thu Oct 22 1992 12:35 | 2 |
|
Apt personal name Mr.Page.
|
33.1042 | Scots rule supreme! | AYOV10::BWALLACE | | Thu Oct 22 1992 12:59 | 6 |
| Re: .1039
It was the only way an English * was ever going to get on the score
sheet.
|
33.1043 | | AYOV10::BWALLACE | | Thu Oct 22 1992 13:03 | 3 |
| should have been .1040
Gazza!!! Durrant would have him in his pocket
|
33.1044 | golden rule!! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Oct 22 1992 13:10 | 9 |
|
What can I say, in two weeks time the gold boot will be just a
gold-brick.
As for scotland ruling supreme, scotland doesn't even rule scotland.
Leeds Leeds Leeds
SteveP
|
33.1045 | rules were made to be broken | FAILTE::CARTYP | | Thu Oct 22 1992 14:08 | 9 |
33.1046 | Scorers? | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Thu Oct 22 1992 14:35 | 5 |
33.1047 | Nothing worse than a smug jock... | PEKING::COSSEYN | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S BACK | Thu Oct 22 1992 14:48 | 15 |
33.1048 | Rangers to Drink the last of the summer wine. | KURMA::SNEIL | What colours the sky in your world | Thu Oct 22 1992 14:56 | 5 |
|
SMUG! you aint seen nothing yet boy,When we get our win in 13 days
time we're going to make your life HELL!.
SQF Blue nose.
|
33.1049 | A Draw Will Do | ESSB::BLONG | I Was There on the Stretford End | Thu Oct 22 1992 14:57 | 6 |
33.1050 | Let us in on the secret | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Thu Oct 22 1992 15:50 | 4 |
| I bet the set hiddens were good. Anybody be so kind as to give us an
inkling of what they were about.
Brian.
|
33.1051 | Dissapointed in the game.. | PEKING::WILSOND1 | DAVE WILSON @WLC | Thu Oct 22 1992 16:13 | 22 |
|
I wasnt over impressed with either team,Leeds reminded me of the Arse
last season against Benfica,great start,but when things started going
wrong they just pumped the high ball up the pitch towards Chapman,who
was awfull imo.Rangers for all there huff and puff created very little
although McCoist should have had a penalty.I thought Hately did what Lee
Chapman doesnt do,provide his team with a good target man,Chapman didnt
win a header,Hately didnt lose a header.
I couldnt understand why Leeds kept up the long high ball into the
box,because in the first 20 minutes when they controlled the game,they
were knocking it about well,and seemed to cause the Rangers defence
much more trouble with the passing in and around the box.
Both teams seemed to settle for the result,although Leeds had much
more of the play in the second half.Batty had a great game as did
Strachan.For the Jocks, Durrant played very well and looks a good
player.
All to play for,although I still expect Leeds to go through,and if they
play like they did v Stuttgart in the 2nd leg,and like they did in the
first 20 minutes last night they should go through easily.
Dave...
|
33.1052 | An unbiased match report | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Oct 22 1992 16:59 | 100 |
| Scene : My local. I entered at 7:30 thinking I had missed the start of the game.
What I got was a dose of the soaps. Percy got a visit from a german, with
suitable accent, that he seems to have made a big impression on in 1942.
Yawn ...
The match started at 8:05. Leeds go down the field and get a corner. Strachen
cuts it in from the right wing. Rangers scramble it half clear and McAllister
gets the sweetest of right foot volleys that went straight into the top left
corner of the net. 1-0. It seemed that I was the only person in the whole world
that was cheering. It thought for a second that it was disallowed because the
crowd was so quiet :-). Leeds were 1-0 up without having to play. Perfect start.
The pitch was very slippy and there was a constant drizzle through out the match.
The made ball control very difficult and it showed in some of the movements that
took place. Although saying that the players on the pitch had good control.
Leeds were on top during the first quarter but Rangers looked very dangerous
throughout. In the 6th minute Rangers were very lucky not to have a penalty when
McCoist was taken out by Whyte inside the six yard box. Leeds lived dangerously.
They eventually paid for the carelessness. In the middle of the half Rangers
got a corner on their left. The ball looks innocent enough coming over. Lukic
came out and, not exactly missed the ball, as half punched it. Unfortunately,
because of the nature of the ball, greasy, it spun backwards. Dorigo was on the
line but on the other side. The ball had crossed the line before Dorigo hooked
it out. 1-1.
From then on Leeds looked completely fragile. Rangers started attacking at will
and soon got their reward. Another corner, this time from the right, rained in on
the Leeds goal. A Rangers player got his head to it, Lukic saved but palmed it
back out into the path of McCoist. He *couldn't* miss! Leeds were in crisis. Just
before Half-time Newsome was unlucky not to get an undeserved equaliser when,
from another corner he hit the post with a header. A defender was there to make
sure that nothing came of it.
More goals were assured. Lukic made a couple of timely saves to end out the half
including a zinger from the left side before half time. Rangers went in on a
high. I was depressed. Would Leeds be still in the tie come the end of the game.
Half-time took the sting out of the game. In the second half Leeds were about
equal with Rangers. The game settled down quite a lot. The best Leeds chance
probably fell to Chapman when Cantona (The only good thing he did all night)
cut a low cross in from the left wing. Champan got a touch to it but not enough
to force it past Goram.
Hateley had the bast chance when the Leeds defence moved out. A through pass
came cross field into Hateleys path. He advanced on goal. His control was poor
and let the ball get ahead of him. By the time he got his chance in Lukic has it
well under control.
Wilko, afterwards, was his usual informative self. He said that Leeds were lucky
and unlucky to come away with only a 2-1 defeat. Well that was obvious. Why do
those T.V. Idiots keep annoying people seriously at work with such banalities!
Did anyone see the SEGA "What happened next". It was excellent.
What happened next!
Imagine the scene
Leeds 4 Stuttgart 4
The Stuttgart players are celebrating ... ?
Leeds 2 Stuttgart 1 :-).
I liked the one where the defender in clearing a dangerous ball wallops a
photographer with a loping left foot into the head and the one where the woman
after scoring high-5's her team mate. The team mate falls flat on her back from
the whiplash. It was very funny.
Unbiased enough?
James.
|
33.1053 | Good game, good game | MIACT::RANKINE | | Thu Oct 22 1992 17:21 | 26 |
| Re -1
Yep it was unbiased and a fair account of the game without any of the
'Were better than you' crap thats been in this and 47 recently.
As a referee I thought Whyte (in particular) and Fairclough were
fortunate in not getting a yellow card each for bad tackles. The rest
of the game was played in a great competitive spirit though.
Was it in this note that someone stated that Lukic was good at crosses
and was rated at 9 out of 10, when Goram only got 2 out of 10 ???
Whoever it was who wrote it must be hiding for such a public display of
lack of judgement...smileys or not !!
I thought it was a good game..1st half especially..and the result was
just about right. Batty and Strachan were superb for Leeds and Durrant
was MOTM. I was surprised how well McPherson played as Id always
thought of him as being a bit raw and unskillful, but he was very
composed and comfortable on the ball. Apart from the excellent goal,
McAllister was a bit non involved, or was he doing things off the ball
that we couldnt see on the box ??
I hope the return game is as exciting as last nights game.
Paul
|
33.1054 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Thu Oct 22 1992 17:38 | 12 |
|
Most of the "we're better than you" crap is harmless banter
just to liven things up a bit. Its no different than the
banter you have with your mates/team mates on a Sunday morning
when getting kitted out to play for your own local team or
when down the pub. In fact I'd say that the banter in here is
tame in comparison to that of the outside world.
As long as people aren't hurling insults at each other getting
personal then no problem.
JN.
|
33.1055 | | WOTVAX::SHAW27::WATTERSONP | thuthring thuckatans | Thu Oct 22 1992 18:43 | 9 |
| >> Was it in this note that someone stated that Lukic was good at crosses
>> and was rated at 9 out of 10, when Goram only got 2 out of 10 ???
>> Whoever it was who wrote it must be hiding for such a public display of
>> lack of judgement...smileys or not !!
Guilty M'lud - still, Lukic was the only assessment that wasn't
accurate....
Paul
|
33.1056 | Ah yes well | MIACT::RANKINE | | Thu Oct 22 1992 20:08 | 17 |
| Re -2
Point taken provided it is the were better than you argument/banter
that applies to the teams playing. What the result of the
Rangers-Leeds tie will NOT decide is whether the English league is
better than the Scottish one, whether super Ally is the best striker
etc., that some noters appear to think it will. Sure the tie is firng
up some Scotland v England emotions, but it is 2 teams playing each
other, not the FL premier v Scots Premier.
IMHO the best league
in Europe at present has to be the Italian Serie A, in terms of skill,
quality of play and competitiveness, although Milan are dominating it
at present. I doubt whether any British club could seriously challenge
for the Serie A title, but that doesnt mean over a 2 leg tie that Leeds
or Rangers couldnt beat Milan.
Paul
|
33.1057 | | MOEUR3::CROUCH | The car in front is crap | Thu Oct 22 1992 20:15 | 9 |
|
Not sure of my facts here, but didn't an English League Division 1
representative side beat an Italian Serie B side 3-0 last night?
Now I'm not suggesting that going one division up you'd get the same
result, but I am suggesting that the English leagues are the strongest
when you consider all divisions.
Andy
|
33.1058 | 3-0 | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Fri Oct 23 1992 11:11 | 7 |
| Yep,
Div 1 beat Serie B 3-0 at Ashton Gate. I know Craig Maskell got one
but not sure who got the others. I understand Jim Magilton of Oxford
was outstanding in midfield.
Brian.
|
33.1059 | | WOTVAX::SHAW27::WATTERSONP | Everton Everton rah rah rah | Fri Oct 23 1992 11:25 | 4 |
|
3-1 wasn't it ?
Paul
|
33.1060 | OUFC | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Fri Oct 23 1992 11:35 | 7 |
| Paul,
Could well have been 3-1. I just took the opportunity to get in a
cheap plug for an Oxford Utd. player !!!
Brian.
|
33.1061 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Fri Oct 23 1992 12:41 | 18 |
|
Martin Allen and Craig Maskell can claim two of the three goals.
The Barclays teams 2nd goal was deflected off of the Italian goal
keeper from a Maskell cross. Giampiero Maini scored the only goal
for the Italians.
Paul.
I agree that the Leeds Rangers tie won't decide whether or not the
English League is better than the Scottish but its all part of the
wind up which for me is a great crack.
However I have to say that one thing has already been proven. Super
Ally cannot cut it outside of the Scottish League. You've gotta have
a laf eh ?
JN.
|
33.1062 | | BIBROK::ROBERTSON | Ain't it marvelous | Fri Oct 23 1992 13:38 | 26 |
| I'm surprised no-one mentioned Strachan's disallowed goal in the first half.
If that had gone in it would have been contender for goal of the season.
From outside the box he does one one-two ( Can't remember who with ) cuts into
the box and does another one-two with Speed, and then calmly walks the ball
around Goram and slots it into the net.
Unfortunately he was adjudged to have been offside when Speed returned the ball,
and at full speed I would have agreed. However, with a lot of cases, looking at
the incident in slow motion, showed that he was level. C'est le vie.
My views:
A very entertaining first half, and Rangers definitely deserved their
lead. The second half was a bit of an anti-climax, with neither team wanting to
concede another goal. Hately should have done better with his effort late on.
As for McCoist, no matter what you say about his footballing ability, he's paid
to score, and score he does. Apart from the goal, he was noticable through his
absence for most of the game, which you could not say for Shearer, or Lineker.
I look forward to the return leg. I would expect Leeds to go through.
I was expecting Rangers to make more of the fact that there was no away
supporters. I fully expect that to impact the result in a fortnight.
|
33.1063 | | PAKORA::AMCARTHUR | reticle co-ordinator x8225 | Fri Oct 23 1992 15:56 | 14 |
|
JN,
You must have a serious problem with Ally Mcoist....
Although I am a Celtic fan I still admire him and I would say that
he is a class striker. To say that he cant cut it outside the Scottish
game in my opinion is crap.
I agree that the game will not decide which set up is best but
obviously I still want the Scottish team to win through.
come on you huns (( that hurt ))
|
33.1064 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Fri Oct 23 1992 16:08 | 13 |
|
Oh my egg 'ead. Go an have a lay down son. Its only a wind
up.
I think Super Ally is an exceptional marksman who has no trouble
finding the net. Last years Golden Boot is a great honour for
any player so well done to Ally.
Whats that smell, sniff, sniff.
Its BULL$HIT thats what !!!!
JN.
|
33.1065 | Report? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Oct 26 1992 15:46 | 5 |
|
Any one got a Match report???
SteveP
|
33.1066 | Want to buy a central defender? | SUBURB::PRATTJ | You're joking - Jason what? | Mon Oct 26 1992 21:46 | 29 |
| Mr McPage,
Went up on Saturday, and saw a real nightmare!
Even my brother said that it was the worst game that he'd seen QPR play
all season. It was frustrating to watch, Leeds were playing all the
attractive football, while QPR played route 1. This probably had
something to do with Gary Speed keeping Ray Wilkins quiet.
Missed out on 12 quid from ladbrokes when Steyskal produced a cracking
save from Gary Speed, which then turned out to be offside.
This sad tale of Leeds playing the better football, lasted right up
until they scored, lovely strike from Strachan from a nod down by
Chapman. Then they looked like a really nervous team that didn't
derserve to be in front. The defence GAVE AWAY two terrible goals to
QPR, the first a Header by Bardsley (around 6ft) who was being marked
by Batty and Strachan (Can't be more than 5ft 5in each). The second goal
was a headed clearance that Chris Whyte stopped running for against Les
Ferdinand, while John Newsome just didn't have the legs to intercept
it, a lucky bobble against Lukic, and Bobs' yer Uncle we haven't won
away from home all season.
A sad day, last year when they lost 4-1 was easier to take, at least
then they were beaten by an on form team.
Jas.
|
33.1067 | Press the self-destruct quick, lads. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Tue Oct 27 1992 19:48 | 9 |
| Another example on Saturday that Leeds wouldn't beat the district U-11 side away
from home this season. Letting QPR off the hook was a cardinal sin.
Re -1
Leeds now look shaky both when they score and concede goals. What next?
James.
|
33.1068 | Winger and a prayer! | SUBURB::PRATTJ | You're joking - Jason what? | Tue Oct 27 1992 21:12 | 10 |
|
I must admit the attack wasn't great either, for all the good play
getting the ball into the QPR half, they didn't look like finishing
many.
Rod Wallace was running around like he was on Drugs - Sedatives. Didn't
look like he could or wanted to take on the defence.
Bring back Ooh Aah.....for the Rangers game, and the crowd should carry
them through.
|
33.1069 | Cantona or Cannot ?!? | MASALA::JOWENS | | Wed Oct 28 1992 15:53 | 12 |
|
We are getting reports north of the border that Eric Cantona is out of
favour with the Leeds manager. Is this true? The papers are even
suggesting that he won't play against Rangers. Fair enough he seems to
have hit a bit of bad form but the guy can still turn games with a bit
of his magic.
What do you guys who see him every week reckon. Should he play against
the Gers or should you play Wallace????
Jonno
|
33.1070 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Wed Oct 28 1992 16:06 | 7 |
|
I would have though it would have been better for Rangers if
Cantona rather than Wallace played a week today. Gough and big bird
should be able to cope with Cantona ok....but a fit Wallace is a different
story. His pace could cause Rangers more trouble than Cantona's skill.
Del.
|
33.1071 | The Gaping Hole = Leeds Back-Four | ESSB::BLONG | I Was There on the Stretford End | Wed Oct 28 1992 16:14 | 6 |
33.1072 | Another glorious result for Leeds away from home against world beaters Scumthorpe! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Oct 28 1992 16:40 | 0 |
33.1073 | Cantona's happy but Rocastle isn't | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Oct 29 1992 14:34 | 18 |
|
Cantona is suffering from a hamstring (again) thats why he is out, I
still don't understand why Wilko did not play Rocastle the other night
and rest Strachan who was suffering from a thigh strain.
I think that Wilko will revert back to his formation at the
beginning of the season for the Rangers game and play three up front
Chapman, Wallace and Cantona.
Dorigo is still out with a groin strain from the QPR game last
saturday, and sterland has got the go ahead to step up his training for
the first team.
Blackburn away if we get past Watford a week next tuesday in the fizzy
drinks cup , both of these are tough games.
Paul...
|
33.1074 | Team from Scunthorpe game? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Oct 29 1992 16:36 | 9 |
| Re -1
The way our away form is going the Watford gate could be an acute embarrassment
to Leeds. What team was played on Wednesday? Why didn't Wilko play some of the
peripheral of the Panel i.e. Hodge, Shutt, Rocastle, Kelly, Wetherall even Day?
Paul, did you make the match - anyone with a mini report as I say nothing on the
papers over here.
James.
|
33.1075 | 30 up - just! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @ILO 890-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Nov 02 1992 12:05 | 17 |
| Leeds 2 - 2 Coventry
Chapman ?
Fairclough ?
Leeds left it late against the team with the best away record in the premier
league this season to record their 30th league home game without defeat. In fact
15 seconds from the end of this absorbing match. Chapman got his 11th goal of
the season - warming up for the onslaught of Rangers on Wednesday. Cantona seems
to have played well replacing the "ineffectual" Wallace. Leeds were in
arrears twice in the game and richly deserved the draw in front of 25K fans.
However, as always, worrying was the conceding of 2 goals. How will Leeds stop
Rangers from scoring on Wednesday - we'll see?
James.
|
33.1076 | 2 more Wednesday night !! | MACNAS::CWALSH | Life's a beach, then you dive | Mon Nov 02 1992 14:44 | 3 |
| Did you hear Ally got 3 at the weekend. What do all you Leeds Leeds
Leeds noters think of that ???
|
33.1077 | Who were Rangers Playing? | PLUNDR::MORAN | Well Des, it was a bit of a bobbler.... | Mon Nov 02 1992 14:50 | 1 |
|
|
33.1078 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Nov 02 1992 14:57 | 8 |
|
Probably another third rate Scottish team. Bring Ally south
of the border into the English League and he wouldn't score
in a brothel.
Roll on Wednesday when Leeds demolish this Scottish myth.
JN.
|
33.1079 | Who cares !!! | MACNAS::CWALSH | Life's a beach, then you dive | Mon Nov 02 1992 14:56 | 3 |
| Some team that has a defence that is on a par with Leeds....
and they have a better goalkeeper
|
33.1080 | Glasgow Rangers, Unofficial British Champions | AYOV22::BWALLACE | | Mon Nov 02 1992 16:31 | 1 |
| Is the match being shown live in Galway, and if so, in what pubs?
|
33.1081 | Leeds are Gone.. | VAXVLS::CCASEY | Liverpool now and forever.. | Mon Nov 02 1992 17:27 | 5 |
| Re. .1078
Your could be right cause going by what your saying in that brothel is
the only place that Lukic could manage to keep a clean sheet along with
the rest of the Leeds team...
|
33.1082 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Nov 02 1992 21:46 | 6 |
|
Is that with or without the soiled Ally Machoist boxer shorts ?
JN.
|
33.1083 | EVERY WHERE YOU GO !! | MACNAS::SMORAN | | Tue Nov 03 1992 06:20 | 10 |
| - .1080
It will be shown live on UTV and will probably be on, in any pup you go
into. May the best team win.
Stephen
p.s. Best of luck to all the remaining teams.
|
33.1084 | -1. PUP = PUB | MACNAS::SMORAN | | Wed Nov 04 1992 08:12 | 1 |
|
|
33.1085 | Good luck to all the ENGLISH teams tonight!! | PEKING::COSSEYN | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S BACK | Wed Nov 04 1992 16:12 | 8 |
|
Well, the battle of Britain continues tonight with Leeds the favourites
to go through, if they show the same commitment tonight they showed
against Stuggart then they will be through....Comfortably...
Prediction for tonight Leeds 2 Heavy drinking kilted types 0
Neil....
|
33.1086 | Mc Justice? | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Man in the Corner Shop | Wed Nov 04 1992 16:24 | 12 |
| re .last
Has been a wee bit quite in here considering the game's tonight.
barry.
p.s. Someone called up the 606 show a couple of Saturdays back and
claimed that some of the Leeds fans who celebrated their side's goal
at Ibrox were removed and slung in a cell for the night. Can anyone
confirm this? The chap, who reported it, seemed like a perfectly
reasonable type and not a stirrer.
|
33.1087 | | KURMA::AMCARTHUR | reticle co-ordinator x8225 | Wed Nov 04 1992 16:24 | 6 |
| Good luck Rangers ..........
prediction
Englands best 1 Huns 1
|
33.1088 | Essential viewing with a pint | AYOV10::BWALLACE | | Wed Nov 04 1992 16:25 | 4 |
| What's the best pub to watch the game tonight in or around
Eyre Square?
BW
|
33.1089 | Gers to Roll on.. | VAXVLS::CCASEY | Liverpool now and forever.. | Wed Nov 04 1992 16:46 | 8 |
| Leeds will have to play a lot better than they ave been playing
recently if they want to win this match as far as i'm concerned i can
see Rangers comming out on top may be not because they're the better
side but because luck was on there side. Luck is going to be the
deciding factor to-night.
Colin....
^^^^^^^^^
|
33.1090 | WE R A PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | KURMA::SNEIL | DIFFUSION MAN TECH | Wed Nov 04 1992 16:50 | 12 |
|
There are about 1000 Rangers fan traveling down to leeds for the game
tonight.Those with tickets WILL be allowed in.They will be kicked out
if they are in any danger or if they cause trouble(which is not likely)
A great pub to watch the game in would be the Loudon bar...pity your
no where near it.
Prediction for tonight Leeds 1 Rangers 3(all for the superstar)
SQF Blue nose.
|
33.1091 | "" FERGUSON FOR THE GERS "" | AYOV14::BGILCHRIST | | Wed Nov 04 1992 17:00 | 6 |
|
My prediction for to night
LEEDS 1 RANGERS 1
? Ferguson
|
33.1092 | Leeds to win 2.0 (Chapman,Speed) | PEKING::SHALLOMA | | Wed Nov 04 1992 17:01 | 1 |
|
|
33.1093 | score line tonight. | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Wed Nov 04 1992 17:08 | 4 |
|
LEEDS 3 'GERS 1
SteveP
|
33.1094 | the LION goes from strength to STRENGTH :-) | KURMA::CPATRICK | I only do it,because It's good ??? :-) | Wed Nov 04 1992 17:30 | 4 |
|
Leeds 0 (coz they're crap) Rangers 4 (coz they're SCOTTISH)
SQF Jambo
|
33.1095 | Safety Removal Men | PAKORA::JOWENS | | Wed Nov 04 1992 17:42 | 13 |
| re.1086
the Leeds fans who celebrated the goal were ejected from Ibrox
although they were not locked up. They were removed for their own
safety.
As for tonight.......Rangers will get a draw due to the Lack of a
Leeds defence.
Score - Leeds 2-2 Rangers
Jonno
|
33.1096 | | PEKING::BAREFIELDA | JACK CHARLTON IS DESPICABLE | Wed Nov 04 1992 18:38 | 11 |
|
Tonight will see the end of Rangers for another year, why do
they let Jock clubs into Euro cups, probably to make the numbers
up...
Leeds will easily win 1-0 with a goal from Speed in the second half.
This will show the sweaty socks who are the best of the British..
Andy..B
|
33.1097 | Blue is the colour | ETGHUB::SSTEELE | | Wed Nov 04 1992 18:44 | 13 |
33.1098 | 3-1 (aet) | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Man in the Corner Shop | Wed Nov 04 1992 18:51 | 3 |
| Leeds to bag it in extra time.
barry.
|
33.1099 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Wed Nov 04 1992 18:53 | 7 |
| RE .1097 Scottish Steele
Are you sure thats not laughable instead of lovable ?
3 - 0 to Leeds.
JN.
|
33.1100 | The Laughing Jocks... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Wed Nov 04 1992 19:04 | 10 |
|
re last
If you saw the program on Channel 4 last week about the Euro
Championships in Sweden, you would realise that it's the Scots who are
"lovable" and the English fans who are hated by every other nation.
Danny.
|
33.1101 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Wed Nov 04 1992 19:17 | 20 |
|
Does that also include the GENUINE English football fans or
are you relating specifically to the cretins who travel to
these games purely to allow themselves to get out of control
after having a few sherberts.
What should not be forgotten is that the majority of GENUINE
English football fans do not travel to these games because of
the cretins mentioned above. They have built such a reputation
that the host nations police have no tolerance for the English
supporter regardless of why they are there and as a result
Italia '90 remains a bad memory for many a true England fan who
went to holiday and follow the team but all they got instead was
a kicking from the Police instead. Encouraged by the Italien
equivalent of the cretins I'm refering too.
Leeds 3 Marti Pello Haircuts 0
JN.
|
33.1102 | can you hear the leeds fans sing (I cant hear a single thing) | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | I only do it,because It's good ??? :-) | Wed Nov 04 1992 19:22 | 4 |
| My My......this will be a very interesting notes topic
tomorrow morning !!!!!!
SQF Jambo
|
33.1103 | Supporters or thugs | PAKORA::JOWENS | | Wed Nov 04 1992 19:26 | 11 |
| re.1101
The note does not refer to *all* English fans but unfortunately(as
usual) the few have spoiled it for the many.
You have all been tarred with the same brush and I reckon it will be
many years before English fans will be welcome abroad in any nation.
Their reputation prcedes them.
As for tonight...come on Rangers....stuff the English no-hopers. 8-)
Jonno
|
33.1104 | Tar ?? or black pudding mix ?? | KIRKTN::GMCKEE | | Wed Nov 04 1992 19:39 | 5 |
|
Aren't the Leeds fans a major source for the tar that the rest of
Engerland has been brushed with.
|
33.1105 | Leeds 2 Ranger 0 | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Nov 04 1992 19:47 | 9 |
| The game tonight is too close to call in my book. Leeds will do very well to
hold Rangers scoreless. If they do Leeds *will* win - if they don't Leeds will
have an up hill battle on their hands. I predict that Leeds will make it 2-0
in normal time. It will mean probably goodbye to any chance of league glory this
season as the extra matches will be too much for the team. Leeds concede too
many goals - already this season they have held only 2 teams scoreless out of
19 games. It speaks for itself. Should be some atmosphere at Leeds tonight.
James.
|
33.1106 | Europes top striker to get a hat-trick. | BHUNA::SNEIL | DIFFUSION MAN TECH | Wed Nov 04 1992 20:01 | 10 |
| RE .1105
Rangers have only failed to score in one game this season(and that was
against the mighty Hibs @:^))in the only game we've lost this season we
scored 3 goals....so it's looking like it will be our night.
SQF Blue nose
|
33.1107 | Ou-ah! | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Wed Nov 04 1992 20:07 | 6 |
33.1108 | | PAKORA::AMCARTHUR | reticle co-ordinator x8225 | Thu Nov 05 1992 00:09 | 1 |
| LEEDS O HUNS 1......Latest
|
33.1109 | the teddy bears picnic | AYOV16::LDINWOODIE | | Thu Nov 05 1992 02:57 | 7 |
|
FINAL RESULT......Leeds 1 THE TEDDY BEARS 2
well done mchatley and mcoist..... a superb advert for british
football. unlucky leeds.
p.s. we ara people !!!!!!!!!!
|
33.1110 | Glasgow Rangers...British Champions | KIRKTN::SNEIL | DIFFUSION MAN TECH | Thu Nov 05 1992 10:07 | 14 |
|
SteveP,JN,AndyB,Neil
YOU
ARE
OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
TOO BAD,SO SAD.....BYE BYE
|
33.1111 | There's only ONE Premier League.......... | KURMA::ISUTHERLAND | Go'n' play up your own end | Thu Nov 05 1992 11:15 | 18 |
|
A 3rd rate team from a 2nd rate league................1
(French fella fi' Sheffield 85mins)
The Champions of Great Britain and the Commonwealth...2 (Agg 2-4)
(A guy,considered not good enough to play with a 4th rate National team
by a manager not good enough to manage one, 2mins.
A guy,who many consider to be the best striker in European football,
but to others can only score against inferior opposition, 58mins)
The result says it all really.
And the team with Britain's best away record marches on......
|
33.1113 | | AYOV11::KMCCLELLAND | The Honest Truth | Thu Nov 05 1992 11:41 | 18 |
| Here is the menu for all Digital Canteens in England today;
Humble Pie followed by
Humble Pie
with
Humble Pie for afters and especially for Andy Barefield, whose comments
only explain why the world hates the English;
Second Helpings !
Eat up lads , you deserve it .
Kev...
|
33.1114 | So happy to be blue | KIRKTN::SNEIL | DIFFUSION MAN TECH | Thu Nov 05 1992 11:50 | 34 |
|
>> Tonight will see the end of Rangers for another year, why do
>> they let Jock clubs into Euro cups, probably to make the numbers
>> up...
No,so we can hammer the English.
>> Leeds will easily win 1-0 with a goal from Speed in the second half.
>> This will show the sweaty socks who are the best of the British..
>> Andy..B
Yes Leeds did show who was SIMPLy THE BEST
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>> Probably another third rate Scottish team. Bring Ally south
>> of the border into the English League and he wouldn't score
>> in a brothel.
A brothel...well,it did look like a bit of a den.
>> Roll on Wednesday when Leeds demolish this Scottish myth.
Myth...that should read legend.
JN.
Wonder if your brave enough to come in and admit you are wrong.
SQF Blue nose
|
33.1115 | They're very quiet | MACNAS::CWALSH | Life's a beach, then you dive | Thu Nov 05 1992 12:18 | 12 |
| re. -1
It looks like they're not brave/man enough to face the truth.
Truth being they got the crap beat out of them and all they could do in
response was pump it into the box but to no avail.
Looking through the replies I don't see BarefieldA or JN or .. or ....
any "we're the best team in Brirtan" Leeds noters.
Come on lads give us some fun.
Colm.
|
33.1116 | Wilkinson's Blunt Swords | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Man in the Corner Shop | Thu Nov 05 1992 12:27 | 6 |
| Well done Rangers. Brilliant defending and finishing. Let's keep the
praise to a minimum as it's agony typing this. Since you'll probably
win the Scottish Prem this year let's hope the Gunners meet you in the
Champions cup next year. Real opposition.....
barry.
|
33.1117 | | PEKING::BAREFIELDA | JACK CHARLTON IS DESPICABLE | Thu Nov 05 1992 12:28 | 8 |
|
How did you guess that we have humble pie in our canteen today,
haggis flavour i believe. I think i'll give it a miss though,
Jock crap always turns my stomach..
Andy..B
|
33.1118 | | KIRKTN::SNEIL | DIFFUSION MAN TECH | Thu Nov 05 1992 12:43 | 2 |
|
..Turns yer stomach....we certainly turned yer team over.
|
33.1119 | | PEKING::BAREFIELDA | JACK CHARLTON IS DESPICABLE | Thu Nov 05 1992 13:37 | 7 |
|
How did you turn my team over last night, i dont even support
leeds im glad to say. I just hate seeing the sweaty socks win
anything..
Andy..B
|
33.1120 | help | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Nov 05 1992 13:43 | 4 |
|
Can anyone supply details of how to get a Leeds Leeds Leeds Fanzine?
SteveP
|
33.1121 | | FORTY2::ASH | Grahame Ash @REO | Thu Nov 05 1992 13:47 | 13 |
| I hope Leeds are going to learn the right lessons about last night's defeat.
Everyone's going on about Lukic and the defence, but it was the much-vaunted
(whatever that means!) midfield and attack which couldn't produce the goods
against a heroic Rangers defence. Leeds just didn't have the imagination or
patience to try and break them down scientifically - almost all the attacks
ended in a chip into the overcrowded box. I was amazed when it actually did
pay off - but the damage was done by then. A few more attempts at the sort of
move which led to Strachan's 'goal' in the first leg was what was needed.
Still, you're probably still the best team in England - whatever that's worth
these days!!
grahame
|
33.1122 | | PEKING::BAREFIELDA | JACK CHARLTON IS DESPICABLE | Thu Nov 05 1992 13:55 | 3 |
|
Vaunted:: to boast or brag..
|
33.1123 | | BIBROK::ROBERTSON | Ain't it marvelous | Thu Nov 05 1992 13:56 | 67 |
33.1124 | 1314....1992....we win again | PAKORA::SNEIL | DIFFUSION MAN TECH | Thu Nov 05 1992 14:03 | 10 |
| RE .1119
Well you'll not be to happy today then(but who cares).We've seen off
Englands best(twice).so away and shout about cricket....no you get
beaten at that as well.
BTW I think Leeds did win something...It must be a record getting
knocked out of the European cup twice in the same season.
SQF Blue nose
|
33.1125 | funny man - give him a prize. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Nov 05 1992 14:26 | 10 |
| re -1
> BTW I think Leeds did win something...It must be a record getting
> knocked out of the European cup twice in the same season.
Ho-ho-ho. Did you ever think about becoming a comedian. You could keep telling
that joke forever and no one would ever laugh ;-).
James.
|
33.1126 | | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Do it to me just ONE time..maybe | Thu Nov 05 1992 14:45 | 8 |
| YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Although it busts my gut to say this.....Well done Rangers....
But then again I would congradulate any team who beat an English
one...
SQF Jambo
|
33.1127 | The boot is on the other foot, and they dont like it | MIACT::RANKINE | | Thu Nov 05 1992 15:13 | 8 |
| Re -1
Yes but were not allowed to enjoy it , if -2 is anything to go by.
Not only have they lost all their teams in Europe but theyve lost their
sense of humour as well.
paul
|
33.1128 | R.I.P. Leeds United F.C. | VAXVLS::CCASEY | Liverpool now and forever.. | Thu Nov 05 1992 15:17 | 33 |
| News hot of the Press..
Supplies of humble pie have run out in Leeds and Artics(ps) have been
spotted from all over the country heading for leeds. Reports say that
there might not be enough..
Rangers carry on leaving the remains of Leeds behind..
____________
/ \
/ R.I.P. \
/ ------ \
| Here lie Leeds |
| Beaten over two|
| legs by the one|
| Glasgow Rangers|
\\\\| 4 - 2 on Agg. |////
/----------------------------------------------------\
| | Lukic | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | Fairclough Newsome Whyte Dorigo | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | Rocastle McCallister Speed Strachan | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | Cantona Chapman | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
|/--------------------------------------------------\|
/----------------------------------------------------\
|
33.1129 | Money, Money, Money | ETGHUB::SSTEELE | | Thu Nov 05 1992 15:23 | 9 |
|
Well done Leeds for giving us a good training session before the
long journey across to the other side of Glasgow on Saturday.
Scott.
ps Eric Cantona would be in my team anyday
|
33.1130 | Wee Gordons better than that !! | MIACT::RANKINE | | Thu Nov 05 1992 15:39 | 13 |
|
Ok OK now Ive had my gloat, back to being serious...
What was HW doing playing Strachan out on the left ?? I thought it
made him less than effective, and the 1 really great move that he was
involved in was when he picked the ball from his defence in Leeds' half
and played down the middle with it. IMHO, Strachan is a much better
player when hes in the thick of things, than stuck out wide on the
left. Was pleased to see Eric having a good game after his non-event
at Ibrox. Rocky looked good for the 1st 45 and perhaps this might be
the start of a run in the 1st team for him ??.
Paul
|
33.1131 | ho ho ho | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Nov 05 1992 15:41 | 12 |
|
ref -some
Us English may seem to have lost our sense of humor but at least we
have one to lose.
It would be very unsporting if I were to say "I hope rangers get
stuffed this weekend" so "I hope rangers get stuffed out of sight,
kicked round the park and sent home in an envelope.":-)
SteveP
|
33.1132 | Rangers 2:1 Cantona | ULYSSE::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Thu Nov 05 1992 16:59 | 10 |
33.1133 | Well deserved victory | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Thu Nov 05 1992 17:09 | 14 |
| It hurts me to say it but Rangers were the best team over two legs,
from the keeper right through to the strikers. Best were Goram, gough,
McPherson (can't believe it), Durrant and to my surprise I thought
Hately was outstanding in both matches.
Last night proved Leeds were simply not good enough. they lack real
creativity and are weak at the back although both goals last night were
quality. I wont wish Rangers good luck, because I hope they get
knocked out in the mini-leagues - and I hope Celtic stuff them on
Saturday but...........
over two legs you thoroughly deserve to go through.
Brian.
|
33.1134 | | UNTADH::BIRSE | C'mon ra 'D' | Thu Nov 05 1992 19:02 | 7 |
| Re 1131
<<< FAILTE::PAGES "Lost in Scotland" >>>
I don't know....just can't keep these white settlers happy :^)...
Malcolm
|
33.1135 | | MADBAS::DREES | Relegation....?? | Thu Nov 05 1992 19:58 | 13 |
|
Most of the regular noters in this topic have aired their views about
last night's Rangers victory.....but there is one noter conspicuous by
his absence.......
NAGLEJ......where are you ???????
We the McNoters wait with baited breathe for your views on last nights
game.
Del.
ps. who scored Rangers 2nd ?
|
33.1136 | Not available in record stores.Postal applications sonly | MASALA::ISUTHERLAND | Go'n' play up your own end | Thu Nov 05 1992 20:04 | 21 |
|
Very quiet in here today is it not? Since i'm in a particularly jovial
mood,i suggest we have a little community sing-song to raise the
English noter's spirits.
I'll start the ball rolling with that all time favourite of all noters
south of this great footballing nation....
"Soooper Aaaaaalllllyyy,Soooper Aaaaaallllly........."
This will be immediately followed by....
"There's not a team like the Glasgow Rangers"
This note is now open for your requests.
|
33.1137 | asheesh sheesh sheesh | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Make Life Exciting ? Take A Chance | Thu Nov 05 1992 20:20 | 9 |
| Ian.... my favourite one is ??????
wait for it ??????
In your Glasgow Slums..
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
SQF Jambo
|
33.1138 | On Easy Street... | MADBAS::DSMITH | ONE THOMAS BROLIN... | Thu Nov 05 1992 20:30 | 20 |
|
Back to last nights game.
As some previous notes have said, Leeds seemed totally reliant on the
high ball into the box which was easy meat for the Rangers defence.
Leeds were just hoping for the break of the ball to hopefully get a
scoring chance. To largely ignore the skills of Cantona was very
strange. He was the one Leeds player who looked as if he could cause
problems for Rangers. As it was Rangers defended very well against the
big punt and deserved to win the match, they looked far more dangerous
when going forward as they varied the style of play and knocked the
ball into space and feet.
Danny...
ps
If Rangers had a half-decent goalkeeper last night, they would probably
have kept a clean sheet. These Scottish keepers..:-) :-) :-) :-)
|
33.1139 | SUPER ALLY 8^> | AYOV14::BGILCHRIST | | Fri Nov 06 1992 11:16 | 12 |
|
This one is for Mr J Nagle >>>>>>
After me JN
Super Ally Super Ally away away away
NOW YOU JN
Super Ally Super ALLY away away away........
Your not singing JN.
|
33.1140 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Torpedoed in Moskow.... | Fri Nov 06 1992 13:03 | 16 |
|
Well done, Rangers. Good luck in today's draw. You deserved the
win over the two legs, especially after going one-down in the
tie so early on in the first game.
Leeds did all they could. Rangers had an excellent game-plan, which
they executed very well. They also played with a lot of passion and
never looked like giving up the lead they had.
From an Englishman who isn't a Leeds supporter but would have liked
them to have gone through....
MotM was McCoist. He was superb. All the tosh about him being
second-rate in a third-rate league was shown to be utter rubbish.
Andy.
|
33.1141 | | TRUCKS::WARDR | | Fri Nov 06 1992 14:11 | 9 |
| And what about Hately ?? - having suffered watching him at Monaco for
several seasons (when he played that is), it wasn't really apparent
what he could offer the game of football apart from a marvellous
sun tan - maybe he is the unsung hero of Rangers ?? And did G.Taylor
leave him out of the England pool for someone from Crystal Palace ..??
[Actually the suffering was more watching Monaco than Hately ..]
Ray
|
33.1142 | No way A.McCoist=MOM | FORTY2::ETHERIDGE | Lampshade | Fri Nov 06 1992 14:19 | 10 |
|
re. -2
Yeah, he notched a good goal, but MotM?? Steady now. All this "lets
be nice fellas to the Scots lads" is going too far. Lets get back
to the slating. I think everybody feels more comfortable with that.
8^)
Ian.
|
33.1143 | Unsung Hero No more | KIRKTN::GMCKEE | | Fri Nov 06 1992 14:35 | 15 |
|
RE.Hately
Hately is a major hero for the Rangers fans, his goals against
Celtic,Aberdeen and now Leeds have been a major cause of celebrations
in the past couple of years. Granted he was not liked when he first
came to Ibrox but that was only because he was keeping Ally out of
the team .McCoist gets at least half of his goals from the big man.
Taylor is so blinkered to his own ideas that he overlooks many players
that would walk into any other managers team.
GORDON...
BTW, JN...who got the second goal on Wednesday ?????
|
33.1144 | news news news | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Nov 06 1992 15:52 | 9 |
|
Any news on who will play against M'City?
Is Batty fit??
Will Chapman ever be dropped? Can we play the ball along the
ground?
SteveP
|
33.1145 | Wilko = Master | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Fri Nov 06 1992 19:21 | 6 |
| re -1
Who cares. Its Wilko's decision - it's his team. He can do whatever he likes with
it. It has brought us success!
James.
|
33.1146 | Gubbed Again..!!! | KIRKTN::SWRIGHT | Boris 'de' Ness | Mon Nov 09 1992 13:36 | 5 |
| Man City 4 Leeds 0
Asheeeeesh sheeeeeeesh sheeeeesh sheeeeesh
|
33.1147 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Nov 09 1992 14:36 | 24 |
|
Wait no longer sports fans as I am back and ready with my
views on the Leeds v Wet Wet Wet.
First of all I must admit to being wrong about the result so
I would say that I am man enough to admit a fault.
BUT, Glasgow Rangers are the luckiest bunch of penny pinchers
I've ever seen. Leeds should have been at least 5-0 up at half
time. MOTM for me was Goram who saved Rangers throughout the
match. Hately scored a cracking goal but he is English after all
and what about Machoist's goal ? Anyone could have scored that
goal and it was obvious to me that Ally was trying to put the ball
back across the penalty box. A decent striker would have held it up
and waited for support. Ally needs to play on the continent or in
the English League to prove himself because until then its big fish
in little pond I'm afraid.
Unlucky Leeds but take heart, you weren't beaten by the better team.
How about arranging a game between Fulchester United and Rangers ?
Shaking Stevens could show Ally a thing or three.
JN.
|
33.1148 | "Sour-puss" | VAXVLS::CCASEY | Liverpool now and forever.. | Mon Nov 09 1992 14:45 | 1 |
|
|
33.1149 | I suppose Man City are lucky as well....... | RTOEU::RDELANEY | | Mon Nov 09 1992 14:47 | 1 |
|
|
33.1150 | Where are Strachan and McAllister from? | MACNAS::WALSH | | Mon Nov 09 1992 15:56 | 1 |
|
|
33.1151 | Bo'ness | KURMA::SWRIGHT | Boris 'de' Ness | Mon Nov 09 1992 16:32 | 1 |
|
|
33.1152 | And Cantona is from Lancashire ????? | MIACT::RANKINE | | Mon Nov 09 1992 16:44 | 4 |
|
Its true....Cunno is back...only he calls himself JN these days.
Paul
|
33.1153 | "Take yon" | KIRKTN::DMILNE | STOP THAT ITS NO NATURAL | Mon Nov 09 1992 17:28 | 8 |
| -2.
We have good players in Boness,not those two bums who play for the
yorkshire puddings.( is it the rocky theme they play before the matches
or last of the summer wine theme).
Neville.....
|
33.1154 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Nov 09 1992 17:57 | 9 |
|
Hang on a minute. I enjoy a laugh and unlike some people
can ride having the pi$$ taken out of me but PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE do not call me CUNNO. My harmless notes regarding
the Leeds V Marti Pellos match have no resemblance to the
noting style and flair of Msr Cunniffe.
JN.
|
33.1155 | Result Coca-Cola Cup | ESSB::BLONG | Europe is Scouse Free | Wed Nov 11 1992 12:27 | 1 |
| WATFORD 2 Leeds Leeds Leeds 1
|
33.1156 | Ripleys believe it or not. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Nov 11 1992 12:48 | 9 |
| re -1
It's all a bad dream - it has to be. Watford beating us. Does this constitute a
crisis at the club or what! Everyone has copped onto how we play and we've no
way of varying it, it seems. What will Wilko do about it - kick so ass I hope.
Paul C, are you out there. Tell is it ain't true - please.
James.
|
33.1157 | IT'S TRUE | AYOV14::BGILCHRIST | | Wed Nov 11 1992 16:27 | 4 |
|
***************** YOUR C**P ***********************
|
33.1158 | Going down, going down... | UNTADH::WILCOCKSON | Brrrrrrr | Wed Nov 11 1992 16:29 | 6 |
| re .last
You can't argue with facts like that!
:^)
|
33.1159 | Depressed or what !!!!! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Wed Nov 11 1992 16:38 | 37 |
|
James,
I was there again last night and you just got that gut feeling
that we were not going to win.Every dead ball situation for the
opposition gives me the creeps nowadays as we seem to concede a goal
from every one!!!!. Marking was atrocious again and i don't think you
can wholly blame Lukic for the goal last night. We now have a week or
so off before the Arsenal game at home on 21-nov, If we don't get our
house in order then we are going to get slaughtered with Arsenal in
their present form.
I seriously believe that Wilko's swapping around at the start of
the season with the back four has upset the team, goalkeepers get used
to how centre backs and full backs mark up and what they will do in
certain situations swapping the team around brings in doubt (especially
for the goalkeeper). Chris Whyte does not seem to be coping with the
backpass rule very well and he has lost a lot of his pace. Ray Wallace
(Rod's brother) is a right back but we still have not seen anything of
him, Dylan Kerr played at left back last night but tired visibly
towards the end, Newsome played crap and was subbed at about 70 mins
and Rocastle came on, he did well playing down the right wing.Cantona
should again have had a hatrick but his finising was poor and when
its 0-0 you have to put those chances away.
I really don't know where we are going to go from here, 14th in the
league out of two cups in a week and hammered by Man City. Anyone want
to buy a season ticket and a bond (no only joking, real supporters stick
in there). I think tHat it's time that Wilko got his hand i his pocket,
he must have made a fair bit for the Europe games.
Paul....
|
33.1160 | Don't know Don't speak | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Wed Nov 11 1992 16:40 | 9 |
|
Re .1157,1158
Well they are really constructive football comments, you must
know a lot about football:-) :-)
Paul...
|
33.1161 | Up the OWLS!!! | UNTADH::WILCOCKSON | Brrrrrrr | Wed Nov 11 1992 16:58 | 4 |
|
re. last
About as much as Howard Wilkinson! Glad we got rid of him... :^)
|
33.1162 | | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Wed Nov 11 1992 19:05 | 2 |
| Do Watford now play off against Rangers to decide the 'British
Championship'? ;-)
|
33.1163 | A new sponsor for Leeds | SIOG::BRADLEY | | Fri Nov 13 1992 11:44 | 10 |
|
Did you hear that Leeds have got a new sponsor ?
Tampax
To help them through that difficult period.
|
33.1164 | TOO MANY GAMES | AYOV10::BWALLACE | | Fri Nov 13 1992 17:25 | 3 |
| RE .1162
I believe Man.City would be 1st in the pecking order.
|
33.1165 | Fanzine help | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Nov 17 1992 15:13 | 11 |
|
WSC lists 4 Leeds Fanzines,
Marching Altogether
The Hanging Sheep
The Square Ball
Till The World Stops
Has anyone seen these ? any recommendations???
SteveP
|
33.1166 | | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Thu Nov 19 1992 12:12 | 10 |
33.1167 | | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Thu Nov 19 1992 16:09 | 15 |
33.1168 | No Swedes in Leeds | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Thu Nov 19 1992 18:45 | 15 |
33.1169 | 3-0 | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Nov 23 1992 12:09 | 10 |
|
Leeds 3 The Arse 0000000000000
Match report anyone??
What was the pitch like or what!!!!
SteveP
|
33.1170 | Amazing - Leeds 3 Arsenal 0 :-). | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Nov 23 1992 13:09 | 51 |
| Leeds 3 - 0 Arsenal ( title pretenders )
Fairclough
Chapman
McAllister
Oh joy unbounded! It has to be the best result of the season, thus far. Leeds ran
Arsenal off the field. It was back to the heady days of the title championship
winning days at Leeds on Saturday. Arsenal came to town cock-a-hoop with six
successive league victories and thought they could end Leeds long unbeaten league
home record. Leeds hadn't won in 7 games. Their worse run since the dark days of
late 1988. Huh!
It was Leeds completely from the outset with them battering Arsenal somewhat
solid looking defence mercilessly in the first half. If Wallace was half the
player he was last year the game would have been over at half-time. He wasn't
and missed two gilt edged opportunities in the first half. It wasn't going to
be Leeds day yet again, it seemed. The Leeds defence looked solid enough albeit
a bit fragile. We did need to worry unduly as Arsenal's much vaunted attack
couldn't punch a hole in a polo on Saturday ;-). The underground conditions
were very slippery and it made passing a lottery in a lot of instances.
All the goals were scored in the second half. The first from a left wing corner
floated over by Strachan ( who looked possessed ) headed on by Whyte and put
away by Fairclough 1-0. Arsenal were a bit peeved as Seaman was about to go off
with an injury to his right side. I don't think he could have saved it anyhow.
Leeds looked good once they went the goal up. Unlike many other times this
season! Chapman, then, got into the act with a scorching header from the penalty
spot from a ripper of a right wing cross from Wallace. Reminded me of the one he
got against Villa last year in the 4-1 defeat last November. 2-0. Arsenal were
buried or were they.
Not quite! It didn't stop Rocastle from nearly gifting his close pal Wright a
chance. Rocastle backpassed to Lukic but the ball stuck in the wet conditions
and Wright running onto it should have done better than he did. Leeds luck held
out from once. Wallace was substituted with Shutt coming on. Cantona was injured!
The third Leeds goal summed up Arsenals lacklustre play. Arsenal seems to be
playing out time thinking 2-0 wasn't such a bad result after all. Bould was
strolling the ball crossfield with Adams in close attendance. Cheeky Strachan
cleverly came up behind Bould and stole the ball off him from behind and then
succeeded in side stepping Adams and Bould again before squirting a delightful
ball through the heart of the defence to McAllister making a surging run. He
easily chipped over the advancing Miller in goals. Leeds are back with a
vengence. Now all we have to do is learn to win away from the home patch and
anything is possible. 31 league games without defeat.
First time we beat Arsenal in any competition in 13 years. Well worth waiting
for. Arsenal had been lucky to get draws off Leeds in the two league fixtures
last season.
James.
|
33.1171 | correction | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Women, You cant live with them.....pass the beer nuts | Mon Nov 23 1992 13:22 | 3 |
| that should be jensen and not bould, and he's a waste of money in my opinion
Mick
|
33.1172 | prediction! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Nov 26 1992 18:28 | 7 |
|
Leeds will beat chelsea by 3 goals.....
SteveP
p.s. I have sent away for all the Leeds fanzines mentioned in WSC I
will let you know if any merit special interest..
|
33.1173 | Leeds recent record against Chelsea. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Nov 26 1992 18:39 | 10 |
| re -1
Leeds of recent vintage have had a good record against Chelsea both home and
away and the way Chelsea are playing we need it. They, as usual, blow very hot
and very cold. Since Leeds haven't won away from home all season this could be
one of the best opportunities we have of getting an away win :-). Should be a
good game with loads of goals. Leeds haven't had a 0-0 draw all season and only
three clean sheets : home to Spurs (5-0), Everton (2-0), and Arsenal (3-0).
James.
|
33.1174 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Thu Nov 26 1992 19:40 | 22 |
|
Leeds do indeed have a good record against Chelsea. The last time
Chelsea beat Leeds was in the 89/90 season when Chelsea with 99
points secured the first spot in division 2 earning promotion to
what is now the premier division.
Even with the away form of Leeds and the fact that Chelsea have
won the last 6 out of their last seven games still makes it difficult
for me to predict a Blues win. The best I can give Chelsea is a draw
and I'll go for 2-2. I am, however, quietly confident that the Blues
can win if they maintain their current form.
It will be interesting to see what changes, if any, Porterfield makes
to his squad.
I'll be there in the West stand after a few sherbuts in a local
drinking establishment. I'm looking forward to Sunday no end.
Heres to a good game.
JN.
|
33.1175 | Ta Ta | WARNUT::MACDONALDI | | Fri Nov 27 1992 11:19 | 11 |
|
What do Leeds fans think of the move of their French idle Eric Cantonna
to Man Utd for about 1.2 million.
This is due to be signed and agreed today, and with Eric on at least
the subs bench for Man Utd away at Arsenal
Bye Bye Cantonna
mac
|
33.1176 | Cantona | FORTY2::FOWLERM | | Fri Nov 27 1992 13:51 | 10 |
| Vogon news claims the fee was 1.6 million.
Personally I think it would be a bargain in normal circumstances, but how will
Eric fit into Fergie's plans.
I also think they should have got rid of Chapman rather than Cantona.
Chapman is old, not very fast, and not really all that good. Perhaps Leeds could
have sold him back to Forest.
Mike
|
33.1177 | I'll still be a fan even if he plays for Utd | ESSB::SONEILL | | Fri Nov 27 1992 13:56 | 19 |
| The burning question is will Mark give the ball to Eric or anyone.
Come to think of it will Eric give the ball to mark either. He'll be a
huge hit with the Stretford end anyway. Players with flair are in
short supply these days. Just look at the hype around Gazza who
happens to be the one English player who can beat a man.
Cantona is a Leed's loss and United's gain. A fan. Reminds me of a
player in local soccer here - former Bohemians player Jackie Jameson -
people waited for 89 minutes and put up with his laziness for that one
minute of sheer entertainment. A history of illness prematurely ended
his LOI career and also ruined his chances of moving to Derby or Everton
years before when struck down by a mysteriuos illness at 17 years of age.
The game would be all the more richer if every team had a Cantona or
Gazza type player. These men are stallions in a field populated by
workhorses.
Shane
|
33.1178 | gone.. | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Nov 27 1992 15:36 | 7 |
|
I heard 1.2mil for big Eric.
I also think that Chaps will soon be ready to hang up his boots so who
will be our big man in the box (oh er.. not Cantona)??
SteveP
|
33.1179 | and I thought last week was the start!! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Nov 30 1992 12:16 | 6 |
| Chelsea 1 LEEDS 0
Match report please.
SteveP
|
33.1180 | DIRE,.....ABSOLUTELY DIRE! | DBOT07::RUSSELL | | Mon Nov 30 1992 14:15 | 7 |
| An absolutely CRAP game....SUper Sunday HA!
Won by a crap goal in the last three minutes.
Nuff said.
*Tiger*
|
33.1181 | NOT a crap goal | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Mon Nov 30 1992 14:30 | 3 |
| Tiger you surprise me! I agree it was a crap game but the goal was
excellent. What a contrast this match provided to the Juve-Milan match
on earlier on Channel 4.
|
33.1182 | | PEKING::COSSEYN | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S BACK | Mon Nov 30 1992 14:37 | 6 |
|
And the game on ITV, Luton vs Watford a excellent game played in awful
conditions, the standard of football in division 1 really puts some of
the premier division teams to shame...
Neil...
|
33.1183 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Mon Nov 30 1992 16:36 | 32 |
|
I thought the Chelsea v Leeds match was an extremely TIGHT game
as opposed to a crap game. Zero goals after 85 minutes does not
mean its a crap game.
There was plenty of exitement at either end with Hitchcock being
the busier of the two keepers.
One thing that amazed me was the poor decisions the ref was making
in favour of Leeds. The linesman running with the Chelsea forwards
was having a day off as Chelsea were caught off-side 16 times. Granted
that the Leeds defence were pushing up well but the lino made 6 blatent
mistakes. 3 out of the remaining 10 were due to Flecky running back
after chasing Lukic down after he receieved a back pass. Mind you the
Chelsea defence and midfield should have held on to it.
Both Leeds and Chelsea had some good chances but it was a fiercely
contested game.
Townsends goal was a blinder but apart from that he made mistakes all
through the game. Wise should have had the second goal but for some
reason hit it straight at Lukic in a one on one situation.
I think it can be agreed that this game could have gone either way
but as the game wore on it looked less likely that Leeds would score
but Chelsea capitalised on the Lukic "free corner" offer. With this
back pass rule it does pay to chase the keeper down.
Anyway I only went to the Bridge and watched the game live. Maybe it
looked different on the TV.
JN.
|
33.1184 | Just curious!!! | MACNAS::CWALSH | | Mon Nov 30 1992 17:16 | 8 |
| Question...
Can someone tell me how many goals Cantona had scored for Leeds this
season. I want to compare this with how many he does(n't) score for
Utd.
Colm
|
33.1185 | the way it is. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Nov 30 1992 20:36 | 13 |
33.1186 | | WARNUT::WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Tue Dec 01 1992 15:46 | 3 |
| Cantona has scored 6 in the league.
|
33.1187 | 24 today | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Wed Dec 02 1992 11:59 | 5 |
|
Happy batty David Birthday????
p.s. will he get a hair cut?
SteveP
|
33.1188 | What about Speed! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Dec 02 1992 20:39 | 6 |
| re -1
How about Speed and his hair. Don't think his mammy is too happy seeing her son
on national TV with hair like a girl.
James.
|
33.1189 | 2-0 | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Wed Dec 02 1992 21:13 | 5 |
|
predictions for Leeds at home against forrest-
SteveP
|
33.1190 | a way forward?? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Dec 07 1992 16:04 | 12 |
|
Well was I wrong or was I wrong..........
Leeds 1 Forrest 4
Match report anyone?
What is the answer to our current problem? who should we buy who shold
we sell, this is the 4th game this season where we have let 4 past us.
If we keep on this track we will be in the First Division next season.
SteveP
|
33.1191 | Obvious! | UNTADH::WILCOCKSON | Brrrrrrr | Mon Dec 07 1992 17:14 | 3 |
| >> What is the answer to our current problem?
Dont support Leeds United!
|
33.1192 | It has to be Leeds. | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Dec 07 1992 19:51 | 5 |
|
and who prey do you suggest I support???????
SteveP
|
33.1193 | Save PoundZZZzzzzz | UNTADH::WILCOCKSON | Brrrrrrr | Tue Dec 08 1992 11:46 | 8 |
|
>> and who prey do you suggest I support???????
Well, that's a tricky one - but I'd plump for Sheffield Wednesday, or
Barnsley - both within a stones throw of Leeds, and if you choose
Barnsley think of the money you'll save in entrance fees over the
year!
|
33.1194 | yea gods Barnsley!! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Dec 08 1992 15:18 | 9 |
|
Sir, Your suggestions are unkind and the notion of supporting any team
on financial grounds is abhorrent to me. I shall stay with Leeds and
keep a stiff upper-lip through these testing times.
SteveP
p.s. I'm a bit(ok a lot) of an armchair supporter living so far from
Leeds.
|
33.1195 | | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Tue Dec 08 1992 16:23 | 12 |
|
Batty was not able to start a reserve game on Monday due to a
re-occurrance of the ankle injury. It doesn't look like he will be
back very soon.
Anyone know who we are playing on Saturday?
Shafiq.
|
33.1196 | | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Dec 08 1992 16:47 | 5 |
|
Sheffield Wednesday at Home.
SteveP
|
33.1197 | Charlton in the Cup. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Tue Dec 08 1992 20:30 | 19 |
| Gloom - dispair - rubbish.
There it goes, our last proud remnant of last seasons success - the unbeaten
home record. Thankfully, it went without any doubt. Our third longest unbeaten
home run ever!
Looks like it's Charlton in the Cup at home. What are the odds on a cup success
now?
I don't like being sexist but when I realised early on Saturday afternoon that
Radio 5 had a woman ( whats her name? ) commenting on the match I got a sinking
feeling. I told everyone in sight that I think it won't be our day. The only
other time I remember her at a match with Leeds was also at home. That was
against QPR 2 years ago and after going 2-0 up we lost 3-2. Please God, I hope
they realise the effect she has on the team when she is commentating.
Ray Wallace, I think, had his debut on Saturday.
James.
|
33.1198 | | WARNUT::WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Wed Dec 09 1992 11:10 | 3 |
| re .1197
I've heard some ridiculous exuses in my time, but to blame a women
radio commentator takes some beating....
|
33.1199 | Oh dear oh dear | MIACT::MASON | | Wed Dec 09 1992 14:53 | 16 |
| re-1
Oh dear, you really are falling on tough times when you resort to
blaming wimmin for Leeds' failure to win a match. You have my
heartfelt pity
NOT
Julie
|
33.1200 | What difference does one more make ?? | MIACT::RANKINE | | Wed Dec 09 1992 20:58 | 5 |
|
I thought Leeds' defence were playing like wimmin recently.....
paul
|
33.1201 | A win!! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Dec 14 1992 12:21 | 8 |
|
Leeds 3 Sheffield Wednesday 1
Speed 32 Nilsson 37
Chapman 47
Varadi 79
SteveP
|
33.1202 | Mini match report and book review | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Dec 14 1992 13:24 | 35 |
| I saw the game, or the goals, on the box last night. Nothing to write home
about.
Speeds first was a mess with their goalie getting in all sorts of bother
punching onto Speeds head. Speed pressed the ball goalwards and it creeped
across the line. Sheff. Wed. then equalised with a cruel deflection from a
shot outside the box. Chapman got another (13th of the season) just after
half-time from a simple tap in header from a Strachan right wing cross. He
won't get it easier. Usual effort from six inches. Varadi (who?) got the
third. I didn't even know we still had Imre on the books. His was a shot
from outside the box that eluded everyone including, most importantly, the
goalie. Strachan was like a spring chicken strutting his stuff.
Anyone out there read any of the multitude of books being published in time
for the Christmas market about Leeds. I know of a least three books that fit
into that category :
I. The road to the Championship?
It seems that this book is a follow on of Strachans book from a while ago. It
is a chronicle of the league winning season.
II. Chapmans book?
Mini biography of Chappie.
III. Updated history of Leeds United.
I have only seen the cover of this book but I think it is an updated version
of the excellent club history published first in 1986. It is a Leeds United
fans fantasy. It's where I get all my facts and fiction to impress everyone
in this notesfile :-). If someone gets it I would love if you let me know.
Any secret fans out buying it for Christmas? Get in touch.
James.
|
33.1203 | not signed | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Dec 18 1992 11:56 | 6 |
| I see we have failed to sign another defender....
are we looking for anyone else?
SteveP
|
33.1204 | Who slipped the net this time? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Fri Dec 18 1992 14:48 | 7 |
| Re -1
Steve,
Who did we miss this time.
James.
|
33.1205 | had a tip from another note.. | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Dec 18 1992 20:43 | 6 |
|
The name not in the frame is Patrik Andersson, First he's interested
then he isn't then he's interested again now he's signed for
Blackburn.. a bit of a yoyo, but our loss I think..
SteveP
|
33.1206 | | REPAIR::JAMANI | Leeds United Champions 91-92 | Tue Dec 22 1992 14:06 | 11 |
|
The bookies have quoted the following prices on Leeds:
To Win the Premier League - 40/1
To get relegated - 5/1
Any comments?
Shafiq.
|
33.1207 | looking forward to xmas | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Dec 22 1992 15:45 | 9 |
|
The fact that we have yet to win away and now lose at home makes 5/1
look like a good bet........
Still we keep going in the hope of greater things. I honestly don't
think we will get relegated.
SteveP
|
33.1208 | Where have all the Leeds Supporters GONE!!! | PEKING::COSSEYN | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S BACK | Tue Dec 22 1992 16:03 | 8 |
|
I'd love it if Leeds were to go down.......They got rid of there best
player and kept the biggest donkey thats ever hoofed his way into the
Premier Division, very sensible....Get rid of Arsenal,Man City and
Sheff utd with them and the quality of the football in the Premier can
only get better.
Neil....
|
33.1209 | oh no we don't! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Dec 22 1992 16:13 | 8 |
|
Neil,
That is a most un-sportsman like attitude.
LEEDS do not employ any Donkey and if it looks that way well it is
panto season....
SteveP
|
33.1210 | Donkey antics | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Dec 23 1992 11:46 | 8 |
| re -2
If who you mean is Chappie then I'd be a donkey anyday. Scoring nearly every
second game, winning a championship, and married to a beautiful model together
with the fact that he earns quite a few bob more than you do mate and is also
more famous. No contest :-)!
James.
|
33.1211 | | PEKING::COSSEYN | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S BACK | Wed Dec 23 1992 14:32 | 4 |
|
Re:1
Thanks for all that information but ole Crappie is still an awful
footballer......
|
33.1212 | A little update on the down and down fortunes of Leeds United | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Jan 04 1993 16:04 | 39 |
| What a happy Christmas was had by all Leeds Utd. fans all over the world!? It
started on Boxing ( St. Stephens ) day with a visit to Blackburn.
Blackburn went 1-0 up. Leeds pull back to 1-1 with a free kick after 38 minutes
by McAllister. Disaster or fate then struck with Shearer eluding the
increasingly slow Whyte for the lead goal before HT. I watched the second half
on the box. It was shown by R.T.E. Leeds were unlucky not to get a penalty
beore Blackburn got a carbon copy of their second goal to seal the game in their
favour 3-1. No qualms - we weren't in the game after that.
Norwich on the Monday after Christmas at home. Hopes were high for this match as
Norwich are on the way down not having scored in 3 games before coming to Leeds.
They were awarded a penalty after 10 minutes and, phew, missed to let Leeds off
the hook. Leeds had the better of the game and won the game on points if not on
goals scored. 0-0.
Our record looks alarmingly poor
P W D L Pts
22 6 7 9 25
What has happened to all those players we boughts over the last few years i.e.
Hodge and Sellars in particular? Incidently, Whyte was dropped for the Norwich
game. It could be soon the end of the road for him. Leeds chairman Les Silvers
has already received letters *demanding* Wilko's resignation. How short some
peoples memories are. It was only 7 months since we were declared best team in
the land.
Last Saturday, it was Charlton in the Cup at Elland Rd. Leeds missed a few clear
cut chances and went 1-0 down after 70 minutes. The reply was thankfully swift,
for Leeds sake, scoring a minute later with Speed on the end of the cross from
Strachan. In the last minute Dorigo had a miraclous shot cleared off the line
when a certain goal bound shot was clear off the line by a Charlton defender
lying injured on the goalline. I don't relish going to the valley for the
replay knowing our away form at the moment.
Who did the winners of this tie draw in the fourth round?
James.
|
33.1213 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | SEARCH & DESTROY | Mon Jan 04 1993 16:25 | 4 |
| Arsenal V Leeds or Charlton
Gary
|
33.1214 | | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Women, You cant live with them.....pass the beer nuts | Mon Jan 04 1993 19:06 | 1 |
| Arent you glad you asked!!
|
33.1215 | batty suspended | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Wed Jan 06 1993 22:11 | 5 |
|
Batty will miss the next two games due to exceeding 21 points.
Shafiq.
|
33.1216 | | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Thu Jan 07 1993 15:20 | 10 |
|
Gordon Strachan was sent off yesterday in the New Year Cup held in
Italy. This means an automatic suspension some time in the near future
from Premier games.
Needless to say Leeds lost both their games 2-0.
Shafiq.
|
33.1217 | Really 4-0 | ESSB::BLONG | Europe is Scouse Free | Thu Jan 07 1993 16:05 | 7 |
33.1218 | Moanchester Unite | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Jan 07 1993 20:08 | 10 |
|
RE -.1 I thought the biggest moaners were the Manc fans for not
winning the championship in 26 years :-)
See you at Elland Rd on the 8th ...
Paul....
|
33.1219 | | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Mon Jan 11 1993 16:21 | 13 |
|
Leeds 2 Southampton 1
Chapman
Speed
We need a few more of these results - preferrably away from home as
well.
Shafiq.
|
33.1220 | Charlton away tonight in cup | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Jan 13 1993 20:14 | 19 |
| Tonights game seems to be last post for Leeds this season. If they're beaten
their season is basically over. If they lose tonight, will they win an away
game at all this season? Can't be many teams, ever, who haven't won an away
game throughout the whole season? Leeds have done it before, in 1946-47, they
were relegated. Believe it or not.
Strachan declared himself fit yesterday. Should be a full blooded game with a
good section of the fans from Leeds as the game is in the Valley i.e. London.
Optimal result tonight 1-0 to Leeds. It would break two important ducks for
Leeds this season:
* they can win outside Leeds.
* they can avoid conceding goals away.
Too much to ask? I feel it could be our night. Gary Lineker has tipped us this
season for the cup. Is that the kiss of death?
James.
|
33.1221 | We won!!! | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Thu Jan 14 1993 12:09 | 16 |
|
Charlton 1 Leeds 3
Speed
Gard (SP??) OG
MCalister
Speed scored his 11 th of the season and Leeds won their first away
game of the season.
We now have the trivial task of playing Arsenal in the next round.
The noteable team changes were John Lukic and Chris Fairclough who were
both dropped.
Shafiq.
|
33.1222 | Mini match report | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Jan 14 1993 13:42 | 25 |
| Leeds seem to play well within themselves last evening. I was very surprised to
see Lukic and Fairclough dropped but their deputies did well in their absence -
Day and Wetherall.
Day
Sterland Wetherall Whyte Dorigo
Strachan Mcallister Speed Shutt
Chapman Wallace
I think Wilko was proving that no one is indispensible and proved it on last
nights overall performance. There is an adequate backup team waiting to gain
a first team place given the chance by the manager.
Charltons goal was a penalty with 3 minutes to go with Leeds up 2-0. McAllister
seems to have scored a good free kick with practically the last kick of the
game. Speed put us ahead after 3 minutes with a well taken header. It was
extended after H-T when a Shutt cross was headed into the Charlton goal by a
home team defender. It was described on the Radio as a disaster. I suppose the
disaster is in the eye of the beholder:-). Unfortunately, after that, BBC 5 lost
interest in the game and prefered to turn over to the Liverpool game as there
seems to be more excitement being generated there than at the Charlton game.
Come on Paul C. where were you when you were needed to keep the tempo of the
game up ;+).
James.
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33.1223 | 11-11 | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Jan 14 1993 16:15 | 12 |
|
Speed now has 11 this season that makes him joint top scorer for leeds
with Chapman.... Who will have the most in the bag by the end of the
season????
I saw a bit of the match on the box last night and can't help thinking
that Leeds were a bit sloppy and inaccurate(sp?) passing and not realy
looking "hungry"
any rumors about transfers or new blood?
SteveP
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33.1224 | New Stand no Away fans !! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Jan 14 1993 21:04 | 49 |
|
Sorry to all other Leeds noters for not putting any notes in sooner
about games, I've been busy keeping my head down trying to keep my job
!!!
Anyhow i went to the game last night and we finally got our first
away win (on home soil) since the game against Sheff Utd last season.
Speedie was unmarked on the edge of the box and came in for a
powerfull header which the Charlton keeper could only palm into his top
r/h corner. Leeds needed a second as they looked unsettled with only a
one goal lead, the got it on 59 mins coutesy of an own goal by Grland
from a cross by Carl Shutt. The penalty came on 87 mins with Darren
Pitcher racing through to a ball on the 6 yard line to the l/h of Day's
post, Pitcher looked to have pushed the ball too far ahead of him day
didn't grab the ball hard enough and it slipped out out of his hands
to the byline , Pitcher fell over Day's outstretched arms and the
linesman (who was not up with play) flagged for a penalty. Pitcher
scored and Day took the ball out of the net and kicked the ball at the
offending linesman (Day is old enough to be hid dad!).
Final goal on 89 mins from a free kick from 25 yard taken by
McAllister (where was the wall??)
Some info ...
Frank Strandli the Norwegian under 21 striker may play
against Everton this weekend if his work permit comes through. He
played in the tournament over in Italy but has not played for us over
here yet.
The upper part of the new east stand will be open later this month,
and in the program at the Southampton game it was said that it would
be given over to Middlesbrough and Man Utd fans 4000+ tickets as well
as other parts of the ground. This has incensed a lot of Leeds fans
including myself who have paid for a bond and effectively payed for the
new stand to be built and have to wait for a seat and give way to away
supporters whoever they be.
The Arsenal game for the fourth round has now been put back to
25-jan a 7-45 k.o. for Sky sports , i shall be there if i can get a
ticket with the reduced Highbury gate ..
Is that enough James ????
Paul.....
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33.1225 | Cup run | CLADA::JMURPHY | | Tue Jan 19 1993 19:56 | 7 |
|
What's the chances against the Arse in the Cup... If Leeds can beat
the Arse next Monday , they should be a good bet for Cup..
Time will tell
jm
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33.1226 | 3-0 | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Wed Jan 20 1993 16:01 | 6 |
| Let's hope for a repeate of the league..
3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0..
SteveP
|
33.1227 | .... | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Beat on the Brat wit a Baseball Bat | Wed Jan 20 1993 17:30 | 7 |
| Or a repeat of the corresponding round and tie two years ago. Was'nt
it 2-1 to the Gunners at Elland Road? Gawd knows as we played Leeds
about six times that season.
barry.
|
33.1228 | We owe it to them in the Arse! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Fri Jan 22 1993 11:50 | 7 |
| I think we are long overdue a win at the Arse. On the other hand, the way we
are playing away we could get blownout, as an American footie team is if they
lose by more than 20 points. Leeds are truly abysmal away and I hope that that
string of pathetic away results is broken soon for if it isn't it could be
trapdoors for the team no matter how well they play away.
James.
|
33.1229 | away away away away away aaa wayyyyyyyyy | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Jan 22 1993 12:15 | 7 |
|
The speed with which we could drop in to the "rel-zone" is worring and
if we don't pick up some points away from home that's where we'll be.
I am sure all Leeds fans want to progress against the Arse. but you
can bet some points in the bag are more important..
SteveP
|
33.1230 | | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Women, You cant live with them.....pass the beer nuts | Fri Jan 22 1993 12:30 | 9 |
| Well James...
Worried about the Arsenal?? For some unknown reason I have this
sneaky feeling that Leeds will do well against us. With wright out, we are
short up front. But sure how knows??? we'll still have the coke cup to fall
back on!!!
Mick
PS: Are you going to see it in our place???
|
33.1231 | Is that an invite to party? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Jan 25 1993 16:10 | 8 |
| re -1
Mick,
Have the tea made and the bickies out for tonights game. Should be a good one.
Leeds could do it tonight. A few scores to be settled tonight.
James.
|
33.1232 | | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Women, You cant live with them.....pass the beer nuts | Mon Jan 25 1993 16:58 | 7 |
| Of course james...
There's a cover charge of 2 pounds!! But sure its will worth the
money considering you get to see Arsenal play!!
Mick
|
33.1233 | Who IS Wright !!!!!!!!! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Mon Jan 25 1993 17:36 | 11 |
|
James ,
I wil be going down tonight with a few other Deccies,
hopefully we can pull of a good win. I will give a match report
tomorrow if poss !!!! Middlesbrough(Bill) or Forest in the next
round!!!
Paul......
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33.1234 | 2-2 replay at home | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Jan 26 1993 16:33 | 33 |
|
Arse 2 Leeds 2
parlor Speed
merson Chapman
Leeds two up at half time now look to a home replay before they can
progress in to the 5th round, perhaps without Chapman and McAllister
definitely without Sterland.
The match was slow to take off with the first twenty minutes mostly
consisting of toing and froing and not much skill. Speed put leeds one
up on 24 minutes and the game leapt into another gear Leeds putting the
Arse under pressure and rewarded when Chapman bundled in a second six
minutes later. Arse were glad of the half time whistle although it
could have been a different picture if Campbell had converted some of
his chances one kept out by the woodwork.
The second half seemed to be going the same way with Leeds
immediatly into attack Strachan failing to get the perfect finnish to a
great attacking run. The Arse pusshed back and at 51 minutes Parlour
put in the first Arse goal beating a lacklustre challange from
Wetherall and pushing it past Lukic. The Arse had the best of it from
then on Chaps and McAllister were replaced with Rod Wallace and Rocky
in the two minutes eitherside of the Parlour goal(I'm sure he is really
Mick Hucknell(sp?) from simple REDs!!!) Wallace failed to convert three
good chances infact he failed to connect with two of them and an
excellet save from Seaman kept the best one (a header) out.
fifteen minutes from the end a very good shot by Merson on the edge
of the D flew past Lukic to make put it level. Leeds just held on and
now have the home advantage for the replay on the 3rd of Feb.
SteveP
(it sounded worse on the radio than it looked on the highlights)
Lukic and gave Merson
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33.1235 | Maybe the gooners will sign Whitney Houston too... | XSTACY::KMCGRATH | Long road, patient donkey | Tue Jan 26 1993 18:35 | 7 |
| >> in the two minutes eitherside of the Parlour goal(I'm sure he is really
>> Mick Hucknell(sp?) from simple REDs!!!)
Well you've got to have some big-name stars in your side, brings in the punters
and all that.
- Kev
|
33.1236 | There must be were little happening in west ham at the moment. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Jan 27 1993 12:20 | 18 |
| re -1
So Kevin you have invaded the Leeds note. There really must be very
little happening in West Ham at the moment, or have you just woken up. You
should have seen Dunphy and McGrath on Monday night celetbrating The Arses
second goal. Embarrassing to say the least. You would think they were long lost
brothers who hadn't seen each other in 50 years rather than seeing a paltry
football team scoring a paltry goal against an equally paltry football team.
I think Kevin must be an Arse fan underneath the West ham T-shirt. His true
colours showed on Monday.
Leeds would have put away the Arse in the second half if we hadn't lost
McAllister or Chapman. The attack wasn't the same. Big game next Wednesday
night. Lots of $$$$. In fact, it will be nearly double in $$$ terms because
the winners playing at home in the fifth round. Leeds will do the biz at home
the next time, I hope.
James.
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33.1237 | Where are you Bill????? | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Jan 28 1993 22:13 | 16 |
|
We have finally signed Frank Strandli from Norway, his work permit
has come through in time for him play against Middlesbrough on saturday
instead of Chappie who is suffering from a groin strain. He may not
get a full game since he has not played (competitively) since the
Norway break in the season in November but will almost certainly be on
the bench. McAllister is the only other doubt..
Bill i'll assume by no communication that your not coming down to
see 'Boro' get beat !!!! If you are We will be a pub called the
Adelphi (opposite Tetleys brewery) @ about 12:30 (near the train
station.
Paul....
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33.1238 | who? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Jan 29 1993 12:17 | 4 |
|
What can you tell me about this Frank Strandli?
SteveP
|
33.1239 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | Paaaaaaattch | Fri Jan 29 1993 20:55 | 9 |
|
OI! Pagey you fat bearded porker from hell. I'm up in Leeds on the 8th
on a course, and guess where I'm going me ol' sunshine?
Nah nah, nah nah nah!!!
Tony
|
33.1240 | you lucky lucky barstool! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Feb 01 1993 16:05 | 18 |
|
Dear Mr A,
What A great treat it will be for you if you can get in to see the
fantastic skill and pure footballmanship of the MIGHTY LEEDS as they
overcome the dirty foul devils bottom spawn usurpers to the throne.
what a mixed bag of emotions you have stumbled on, to come so far
in hope, the elation of Elland Road, abject despair as the shining
grail slips further away from your dirty greedy grasping fingers and a
long sad trail home to Whitley and like Man.U. its nasty whiff.
I like to think I am a good sport so as a little extra, I hope
yours and all other Man.U. fans genitals shrivel up and fall in your
bovril as its the nearest to a cup you will ever get...
love and best wishes to all at home in reading
SteveP
|
33.1241 | Revenge is sweet: Leeds 3 Middlesbrough 0 | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Feb 01 1993 18:49 | 17 |
| Leeds 3 Middlesbrough 0
Strandli
Batty
Fairclough
Leeds enjoyed a good win over North east neighbours Saturday at Leeds. Strandli,
the Norwegian international and Leeds fan from childhood made the dream start
scoring after 69 minutes from a low left wing cross. The goal was received with
relief. Leeds extended the lead after 78 minutes when Batty scored a rare goal
and the win was wrapped up in the last minute with Fairclough scoring with a
volley from close range. A great warm up for Wednesday night next.
I see where Leeds opened some of the new Lowfields stands to the paying public
for the first time Saturday. Over 2000 people were in the new accommodation.
Paul - any thoughts on the new stand?
James.
|
33.1242 | Anyone got any news about tomorrow nights showdown? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Tue Feb 02 1993 20:14 | 6 |
| I feel there is going to be goals tomorrow night and all of them to Leeds. We
will squash Arsenal and sent them back 10 years, the damage we will do to them
tomorrow night ;-). Strachan, I think, has three or four great games left in him
and wouldn't it be great if one of them was tomorrow night?
James.
|
33.1243 | | OPG::TONY | | Tue Feb 02 1993 20:27 | 11 |
| >I feel there is going to be goals tomorrow night and all of them to Leeds. We
>will squash Arsenal and sent them back 10 years, the damage we will do to them
>tomorrow night ;-). Strachan, I think, has three or four great games left in him
>and wouldn't it be great if one of them was tomorrow night?
James.
Yes, of course James after all you are the Champions..!!
tony
|
33.1244 | Home rule = win | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Wed Feb 03 1993 12:20 | 10 |
|
Ian Wright is back for the Arse tonite and Mr Graham has said he
expects him to "smash a few in" also he would like Ian to try and kick
the ball a bit 8-)
Chaps should play back from his dodgy groin, one of the defenders is
in doubt!! can't remember which one (his fitness is in doubt not that
he is a defender.. I think '-).
SteveP
|
33.1245 | report bits | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Feb 04 1993 12:45 | 56 |
|
Leeds 2 Arse 3
Shutt Smith
Mcallister Wright
Wright (in extra time)
OH BUGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH BUGGER OH BUGGER.
Well the best we can hope for is staying in the premier division and
taking a few scalps on the way.
I had to open my big mouth about Wright.
Leeds started well in the first ten minutes putting the Arse under
pressure before they could get their bearings and Chaps having a good
go at knocking in a cross from Dorigo after only 90 seconds. Slowly the
pattern changed Leeds had not got the early goal and their
pressure/urgency dropped away and the Arse started to adjust and play a
bit. After an age of injury time the first half ended 0-0 and I am sure
Mr Graham must have been the better pleased of the managers. I am not
sure what mr Graham says at half time but the Arse were first back on
after half time (as they were in the last game) and very keen. Three
minutes into the second half and Wright crosses much like Dorigo at the
start of the first half but this time the target man is smith and he
makes no mistakes 0-1 boooooooooooo. The Arse looked the more
dangerous in an end to end battle and then on 70 minutes the ball was
bouncing around in the Arse box when Mcallister headed towards the goal
the ball had no power behind it but clumsy attempst to reach it from
two defenders left room for Shutt to jink through and just put it past
Seaman before he can reach it 1-1 yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa. For a few minutes
Leeds were fired up and pushed on but the game faded back to its
previous scrapy end to end style. 80 minutes and Donkey fouls Shutt
30yds from goal and Mcallister converted a magnificent free kick as
someone on the radio said it was fast even in slow motion. 2-1 yes yes
yes yes yessssssssssssss.. Three minutes from normal time Wright makes
a bit of space edge of the box slightly to the left and it goes under
Lukic 2-2 no no no nnnooooooo. This time the Arse are fired up and
Leeds hold out for nearly eight minutes till the whistle blows.
Extra time
First period, Leeds pus and attack and generally have the better of the
Arse but no goal is forthcoming. Still it looks good as Leeds are the
stronger of the two teams.
Second period, the Arse come strong again and Leeds were on the rails
and that git (not a bad player actually) Wright scores from almost the
same spot as his equalliser, this time the shot has more power and
lifts to head height Lukic gets bot hands to it pushes it up and over
but not far enough and it drops into the net 2-3 nooooooooooooooooooo.
In the last four minutes I thought my heart would give out was it six
or seven corners we forced Seaman made two great saves and kept the
ball out of the net and thats where it ended with all our hopes for any
honours this season.
I am wiped out.
SteveP
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33.1246 | Spot the ball. | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Hail Freedonia! | Thu Feb 04 1993 13:04 | 7 |
| > First period, Leeds pus and attack
Wilko found a new tactic then? How to intimidate the opposition
with acne? ^)
barry.
|
33.1247 | Summer Break | CLADA::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Auld game.... | Fri Feb 05 1993 17:47 | 16 |
|
I see a report in today's Star by Wilko pleading with his paymasters
at Leeds not to sack him.....surely that can't be very likely...
Leeds haven't become a bad team overnight...they just going through
a hangover of Last Season....If Leeds can get maybe a good defender or
two , have a good rest over the summer , come next season they
should be a lot better than they are now......
Wilko is supposed to be signing Gary Charles from Forest with Chris
Fairclough going the other way.....Leeds need a good right back ,
even if Sterland is fit for next season , he is getting on a bit
and won't be as mobile as he was due to all his energies......
How many weeks rest did Gary McAllister have last summer , very few...
jm
|
33.1248 | Some people are so impatient | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Fri Feb 05 1993 18:03 | 14 |
| People are very quick to forget how far Leeds have come in 4 years. It was
third division football staring us in the face this time 4 years ago and look
how far Wilko have taken us: second division champs and then the ultimate last
year. Wilko deserves a lot more than that and I think, eventually, sanity will
prevail.
There is a distinct need for an injection of some decent central defenders
and then we might challange for the honours again. At the moment, too many goals
are going in and this away voodoo is really pissing me off. Its time for a
little rebuilding and I think Wilko is the man to do it; but on his terms only.
If there is any bull pulled, he will be on his bike someplace where his
abilities will be more appreciated.
James.
|
33.1249 | Better dead than red!!!!! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Mon Feb 08 1993 14:52 | 19 |
|
Poor game on saturday with Leeds defending badly on the hour from a
corner to give Wimbledon a soft goal. Rocastle started the game but did
not get the service on the right wing and was consequently taken off.
Sellars had a good game as did Batts. Me thinks that Wilko was
getting sStrachan back to full fitness before tonights visit of Man U.
This should be a rather interesting game to say the least. I have
heard reports that Bruce and Ince are doubts is this true?? If not it
should be a good midfield battle. Man U have been given 4000 tickets
for the new (middle section) 17000 stand. I think that Eric is in for a
little suprise from the Leeds fans tonight which should liven up the
game a little!!!!!!!
COME ON YOU LEEDS.......
Paul......
|
33.1250 | full match report please | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Feb 09 1993 12:14 | 16 |
|
It sounded a good game on r5 last night and encouraging for Leeds the
0-0 result could have been better, Leeds kept the pressure on M.U. for
just about the whole 90 minutes. We defended well surviving a couple of
mistakes, dominated mid-field and never got one in the net no thanks to
Schmeichel.
Oh-er turned to BOOOO-er the crowd realy got to him his game was
not worth eriting home about appart from two incidents 1. he is booked
for an elbow on Shutt whilst Leeds prepared to take a free kick. 2. a
bit of the old style showed seven minutes from the end when he slipped
past a defender and shot goalwards only to find the knee of Lukic.
Excellent performances by McAllister,Batty,Dorrigo,Speed and an
impressive debut for Rob Bowman(who?).
SteveP
|
33.1251 | Rob who? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Tue Feb 09 1993 14:27 | 5 |
| Who is Rob Bowman?
Was Sellars playing either last evening?
What is happening with Gary Kelly?
James.
|
33.1252 | Rob Bowman | SUBURB::WAITEG | THE END OF SILENCE | Tue Feb 09 1993 14:36 | 5 |
| Rob Bowman is 17 (I think) and has been a pro for Leeds for just 3
months. He played well last night.
Gary
|
33.1253 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Nostalgia *is* what it used to be... | Tue Feb 09 1993 16:05 | 9 |
|
Leeds (Leeds Leeds) were without several first team players last
night (Sterland, Fairclough, Strachan, Wallace..) but I don't
expect you'll hear too many Liverpoolesque complaints. MOST teams
accept injuries and absences as part of the game....;-)
Give it another turn....
Andy.
|
33.1254 | Info | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Tue Feb 09 1993 19:12 | 20 |
|
Rob Bowman is from Middlesbrough and has only
played 4 reserve games before his introduction last sat against
Wimbledon, and full debut against Man U last night. Another player you
might see shortly playing for the first team soon is Jamie Forrester
who scored his fouth hatrick for the reserves this season on saturday
last. He was bought from Auxerre earlier in the season.
James i think that Gary Kelly did go on loan for a while but may
now be back at the club. When Wilko took over at the club he said he
wanted to get a youth policy going somewhere along the lines of Man U
(which must be a compliment i think) who have had good success in
recent years with their youth policy since Ferguson took over.
We may well (i hope) start to benefit from a policy of our own
soon.
Paul...
Paul...
|
33.1255 | whats the story | CLADA::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Auld game.... | Thu Feb 11 1993 19:19 | 12 |
|
Whats this new stand like.....
Stadium must be fairly impressive at this stage...
Whats the new capacity now at Elland Rd......
What will the capacity be if you have to go all seater......
any Irish players on Leeds books now.....
jm
|
33.1256 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | Paaaaaaattch | Fri Feb 12 1993 16:16 | 5 |
|
Well it looks good from the outside 8(
Tony
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33.1257 | Oldham tomorrow | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Fri Feb 12 1993 17:34 | 8 |
| Another three points tomorrow would ease some of the tension around Leeds.
Oldham are a team we usually beat at home and they robbed us earlier on in
the season at their patch when we lost a two goal lead with five minutes to go.
Once the pressure eases off I think Wilko will start trying out the newer
talent a bit more. There seems, from what Paul said a few notes back, to be a
few exciting players on the way up.
James.
|
33.1258 | 3 points | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Feb 15 1993 15:02 | 8 |
|
Leeds 2 Oldham 0
Mcallister(pen)
Chapman
Please can someone put in a match report and the line-up
SteveP
|
33.1259 | Halfway up the stairs !! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Wed Feb 17 1993 17:45 | 45 |
|
Match report, you want a match report O.K. then....
We started off veeeeery slowly (what's new this season)..
Oldham (of which my father is a season ticket holder) defended well,
and never looked likely to concede a goal until the penalty (what!!).
After McAllister had scored from the penalty spot the game seemed
shn eto lean our way, Chapman has had a lot of barracking from the crowd
recently due to lack of goals commitment,no ball control (being a
donkey) and general lack of performance, After he scored his goal on
saturday he held his hand up to his ear towards the kop to say where's
the barracking now!!!! Having said that his goal was a very well
taken shot (which i didn't think Chapman had in his repertoire.
Tottenham on Saturday and this will be a return grudge match due to
the 5-0 stuffing at home we gave them. Shutt is out with a burst blood
vessel and will be out for 2 weeks so maybe Rocastle will get a look
in .
Paul....
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O.K so I blundered ...... Paul,.... here is the real report....
Match report, you want a match report O.K. then....
We started off veeeeery slowly (what's new this season)..
Oldham (of which my father is a season ticket holder) defended well,
and never looked likely to concede a goal until the penalty (what!!).
After McAllister had scored from the penalty spot the game seemed
to lean our way, Chapman has had a lot of barracking from the crowd
recently due to lack of commitment,no ball control (being a
donkey) and general lack of performance, After he scored his goal on
saturday he held his hand up to his ear towards the kop to say where's
the barracking now!!!! Having said that his goal was a very well
taken shot (which i didn't think Chapman had in his repertoire.
Tottenham on Saturday and this will be a return grudge match due to
the 5-0 stuffing at home we gave them. Shutt is out with a burst blood
vessel and will be out for 2 weeks so maybe Rocastle will get a look
in .
Paul....
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33.1261 | Tony took a dive | CLADA::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Auld game.... | Thu Feb 18 1993 12:22 | 12 |
|
I was very suprised with Tony Dorigo last night over the penalty
he won against San Morino....
Tony took a D I V E , no question about it , it was a blatant dive..
Justice was done when that pratt Platt missed the resulting penalty..
jm
|
33.1262 | It only matters that you hit the net rather than how you do it - IMHO | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Feb 18 1993 12:25 | 12 |
| re -1
Paul,
I, too, was surprised at the quality of the shot Chapman had on goal Saturday
but as I always say to defend Chapman -- how many players can get in his
position to score those simple tapin goals match after match?
His record is still nearly one every two games. I can't think of many, so called
better, players with a scoring average superior to Chappies! Can you?
James.
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33.1263 | Spurs 4 - 0 Leeds -> We still win on aggregate 5-4 :-). | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Feb 22 1993 19:24 | 0 |
33.1264 | Going Down Going Down | WOTVAX::MACDONALDI | Stalybridge Celtic | Mon Feb 22 1993 19:32 | 8 |
|
Come on Caddy,
Give us your opinion as to why the League Champions are threatening
the relegation zone, after another mauling this time by Spurs.
Tell me and I won't mention anything about silk boxer-shorts!!!!!!
Mac
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33.1265 | Is there anything fair in this world? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Tue Feb 23 1993 18:20 | 5 |
| I was at a table quiz last night. The prize was a trip to the Leeds-Blackburn
match at Easter. Guess who won it? A team comprising of Gary Spain and Brian
Long. Is there anything sacred anymore?
James.
|
33.1266 | I'll be watching Limerick that weekend | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Tue Feb 23 1993 18:29 | 7 |
|
Re -1,
It should be pointed out that we took the cash equivalent. Both of us
have better taste in football, well one of us anyway. :-)
Gary.
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33.1267 | At least Leeds are below us! | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | I dreamt I found a working printer! | Tue Feb 23 1993 19:18 | 8 |
| Gary,
What was the cash equivalent? A ticket to Leeds must be worth at least
25p these days !!
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
33.1268 | Chapman for England !!!!! | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Tue Feb 23 1993 23:08 | 15 |
|
Re .1264
Ian we were well beaten on saturday and i have no complaints
whatsoever other than "GET RID OF THAT DONKEY CHAPMAN!!!!"
B.T.W. Mac What about the leather thong with the zip up the front you
were wearing sitting in the bar of the hotel watching the England game
last week :-) :-)
Caddy
|
33.1269 | McAllister for Leeds | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Wed Feb 24 1993 00:32 | 5 |
| McAllister has signed a new three year contract with Leeds. He
obviously has confidence in Leeds future!!
Shafiq.
|
33.1270 | Arsenal 0 - 0 Leeds | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Feb 25 1993 11:51 | 38 |
| Arsenal 0 - 0 Leeds
Leeds fought, literally, a 0-0 draw last night at Arsenal. This is an important
result but not without the casualties. McAllister, it seems, broke his arm.
How? It didn't show the incident on the box last night! Leeds had three bookings.
Wallace missed a sitter after practically rounding the keeper with an open goal
beckoning. He is having a woeful season. Too much beer from last season? Wright
had a goal disallowed. Whyte nearly decapitated an Arsenal player. Wetherall
cleared a rapidly goal bound shot from the line. Charman had a chance near the
death.
PLUS
----
1. Leeds first away point in TEN attempted. They had lost their previous NINE
away league games.
2. No goals conceded. This is the first time since a 0-0 draw at Liverpool last
April for Leeds not to concede an away goal.
3. A point further for relegation.
4. One less away game to worry about.
5. One less game from the end of the season.
MINUS
-----
1. McAllister lost for an unspecified time frame.
2. Yet another team combination in the offing.
3. Defence still looks woefully fragile. I can't figure what has happened from
last yeat to this?
James.
|
33.1271 | Watch out in May '94 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Thu Feb 25 1993 13:38 | 20 |
| That's bad news about McAllister. He seems to be the one player at the moment in
the team who has the passion and ability to get a result.
I too cannot figure out what's going on. The team hasn't changed that much since
last year, except for the odd injury, and oh ah's departure to the Mancs. but one
player does not a team make!
I put it down to the season starting to soon. Last year, the team played it's
heart out every game, but I think it took its toll. Also I believe that the
players hadn't fully recovered, mentally from the euphoria of winning the league,
and that affected their attitude at the beginning of the season. Then, once a few
results went against them, confidence dropped, and it never really returned.
I think this year will be a good lesson for the players, and as long as the basic
structure of the team remains, and the team stays up, which I am sure it will,
they'll be back up with the best next year.
Just mho
Al
|
33.1272 | Another home win | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Mar 01 1993 17:29 | 9 |
| Leeds 1 - 0 Ipswich
I have no details. A very good win against a team who have been hard to beat. It
makes it 4 clean sheets in 5 games. The corner has been turned? Anyone out
there with a report? Leeds beating Ipswich saved my bacon as my bro is an
Ipswich supporter and he would have laughed his head off if we lost this one.
Well done lads.
James.
|
33.1273 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Mar 01 1993 17:58 | 11 |
| According to MOTD & CEEFAX this game was pretty much a defensive battle with no
real chances created by either side.
The goal came late in the second half when Shutt(?) was brought down by a badly
timed challenge in the box, Dorigo doing the business from the spot.
Leeds home record is still good on paper if not on the field. Is there a game
this week as Sheffield Utd was scheduled for the weekend but they're still in
the cup?
Al
|
33.1274 | Sellars out Kerslake IN | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Tue Mar 09 1993 23:20 | 18 |
|
Leeds have sold Scott Sellars to Newcastle United for 700k, Sellars
went into Wilko a couple of weeks ago asking that if any team came in
for him that he wanted to go, he has had trouble getting into the side
with Rocastle blocking his way. Wilko has already used most of the 700k
to buy David Kerslake the right back at Swindon who moved there from
QPR for 100k.
This seems to put to an end the attempt to get Gary Charles from
Forest who Leeds offered about 750k for last week, but Forest wanted
Chris Fairclough in return, Fairclough did not want to go so the deal
got shelved. Transfer deadline is next week and i believe that its
quite busy at Elland road trying to get more players in.
Strachan misses the game against Man city this saturday as does Chris
Whyte due to suspensions.
Paul....
|
33.1275 | Another home win | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Mar 15 1993 16:35 | 15 |
| Leeds 1 - 0 Man City
Rocastle
What a league record - best home record in the league and the worst away. I
thought it only happened to other teams. Only Gillingham in the third and Leeds
are still without an away win in the league all season.
Rocastle scored with an excellent volley after 11 minutes in a disappointing
game. Rocastles first league goal of the season. Leeds should have made the
game safe near the end with chances missed by Chapman and Strandli. Lukic
made four excellent saves in the course of the match.
That the fifth clean sheet in six league games. Doesn't feel like it though!
James.
|
33.1276 | Who are Leeds playing next? | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Thu Mar 18 1993 14:53 | 8 |
|
Does anyone know who Leeds are playing this weekend?
I couldn't see a fixture for them on Saturday.
Thanks,
Shafiq.
|
33.1277 | Sunday away to Forest, Live on Sky | ESSB::BLONG | Europe is Scouse Free | Thu Mar 18 1993 15:59 | 2 |
|
|
33.1278 | Forest 1 - 1 Leeds | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Wed Mar 24 1993 12:01 | 17 |
| Leeds escaped from the Forest without being mauled. It was a good result
considering we were mugged in our own back yard by Forest before Christmas.
Wallace scored his first goal since that delightful effort against Sheff. Utd
to win the league last April. He used up all his luck when that goal went in.
Looking at the champions video a few weeks ago I gasp at the luck Leeds had to
beat Sheff. Utd that day. Well Wallace is back at last :-).
Forest came roaring back 12 minutes later when they converted a penalty for God
knows what? I heard the last 20 minutes of the game and Forest could have sewn
it up except for poor finishing from Rosario. You could ask for a better
player when presented with an open goal from five yards. He is statistically
most likely to miss it according to a popular soccer mag. who last week ran a
survey about the striker with the poorest strike rate in the Premier league.
Guess who came out bottom ... Rosario with a goal every 6.43 games. Think about
it, seven goals a season for a top-class striker. Thank God it was Rosario I say.
James.
|
33.1279 | Leeds 1 - 1 Chelsea | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Thu Mar 25 1993 11:52 | 6 |
| A slightly disappointing result considering the ice cream man got himself sent
off early in the game. Other than that it seems like Wetherall scored just
before HT and Chelsea replied 8 minutes after HT. Not quite safe, yet, but
getting there.
James.
|
33.1280 | who and where and when? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Mar 26 1993 20:33 | 4 |
|
Can anyone post the fixtures till the end of the season??
SteveP
|
33.1281 | Look back to the future ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Sat Mar 27 1993 11:29 | 5 |
|
re. -1
See 33.744 plus two games to be re-arranged Sheff Utd away and
Liverpool away
|
33.1282 | fixture pileup !!!! | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Mon Mar 29 1993 21:36 | 10 |
|
re -.1
Plus the Sheffield Wednesday game which now has to be
re-arranged due to the F.A. Cup Semi's this weekend !!!!!
Paul (getting match withdrawal symptoms)...
|
33.1283 | ? | YUPPY::FACERS | The Lion RRROOOAAAARRRSS | Thu Apr 08 1993 17:18 | 5 |
| How are Gary McAllistar and Tony Dorigo doing?
Are they back from injury yet?
Stuart
|
33.1284 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Tripple ripple truffle shuffler | Thu Apr 08 1993 17:23 | 6 |
|
McAllister, damaged his broken arm (reopened the crack) During the
match with Sheff. Utd. and is more than likely out for the rest of the
season. Dorigo, I don't know about.
Tim
|
33.1285 | Bad and good news on the results front | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Mon Apr 12 1993 15:42 | 28 |
| Last Wednesday:
Sheff Utd. 2 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Leeds were a little unlucky not to escape Sheffield with at least a point.
Leeds equalised after going 1-0 down with a goal from Standli. A late deflected
Deane effort won the day for Sheff Utd. I suppose we were owed that after the
corresponding fixture last year. Sheffield missed a second half penalty too.
Still the proud possessor the worst away record in the entire 7 English and
Scottish divisions.
Paul -- you must be a bad influence; run over a litter of black cats on the
way to the Oldham match earlier on this season? The truth please ;-).
Last Saturday:
Leeds Utd. 5 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Excellent win by the lads on Saturday. Strachan scored a hat trick -- two
penalties and a 15 yard shot. Wallace and Chapman got into the act also. Went
4-0 up before letting Blackburn get two back. Chappie put the game out of reach
with the usual two inch tap in a minute from time. Sweet. Virtually assures
Leeds of premier league action next season. Best home record of any premier
league team.
Leeds 36 12 5 1 39 16 0 5 13 11 35 47
James.
|
33.1286 | ever the optimist | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Apr 12 1993 17:19 | 11 |
|
Any news of when we play Liverpool & Sheffield Wednesday??
What time is the Kick-off against Norwich??
What are our chances?
My Prediction is our first away win in the league, 1-2. The first Back
to back wins of the season..
SteveP
|
33.1287 | win win win | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Wed Apr 14 1993 21:11 | 9 |
|
Well it is quiet in here..
Can any one tell me if any team have failed to win away from home for
an entire season and not been relegated??? not that that will happen to
us. I fully expect Leeds to win all remaining games and end near the
top of the division ;-)
SteveP
|
33.1288 | 20 odd more to go for the record :-( | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Thu Apr 15 1993 06:47 | 5 |
|
They've only managed to fail to win any away game once in a whole
season - in 1946-47 and they finished bottom of Division 1. That
season makes this seasons away form look good (W0 D1 L20 !!!),
despite last nights 2-4 result :-(
|
33.1289 | question | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Apr 15 1993 16:37 | 8 |
|
I beleive that Leeds will stay in the Premier Division, they may
however fail to win any Away games...
Has any team in any division failed to win any Away games in a season
but not been relegated to a lower division???
SteveP
|
33.1290 | F.A youth cup finalists | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Tue Apr 20 1993 02:35 | 31 |
33.1291 | No smoke without fire... | MUGGER::BEARDSLEY | | Tue Apr 20 1993 13:33 | 6 |
33.1292 | what? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Apr 20 1993 16:43 | 5 |
|
any chance of seeing edited versions of the last two??
SteveP
|
33.1293 | Remakr - Remodel | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Tue Apr 20 1993 18:15 | 18 |
|
Leeds are through to the F.A. Youth cup for the first time ever.We
beat Norwich 4-3 on aggregate 1-4 at carrow road last friday and 0-2 to
Norwich at Elland rd on monday.
Provisional dates for the final against Man U who overturned a 2-1
defecit against Millwall last tuesday are :- 5-May 1st leg at Old
Trafford. 2nd leg 12-May at Elland rd.
Dorigo has had his leg put in plaster to try and clear up his
ankle ligament problem before the end of the season.
Leeds have bought Mark Beeney for 350.000 wuth 50.000 per appearance
up to a value of 900.000. This seems to lighten the load of the debtors
from Brighton's door somewhat. Lukic watch out....
Paul....
|
33.1294 | Leeds up and down as per usual | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Leeds Champions | Tue Apr 27 1993 00:01 | 24 |
| Leeds 0 - 0 Palace
Palace needed the points and Leeds obliged with a fairly dour 0-0 draw. Wilko
seems to be parading the youngsters quite a bit now that the season is in
essence over. Palace remain a bogey since our return to the premier division.
Liverpool 2 - 0 Leeds
Don't know much about this game other than the hype Martin C. attached to it.
Typical Leeds away performance - losing, not scoring, playing poorly. The only
bright hope is that we still have Wednesday away and we all know what happened
last year together with the fact Wednesday have to play 5 league matches in 10
days. They will take it easy on us, I hope.
Leeds 2 - 1 Gary Linekers Japanese eight something team
Whyte scored twice before HT with headers to ease Leeds past the team "the boy
Lineker" is playing with. Wilko had more youngsters from the Youth team
especially Couzens and Whelan. Over 10K at the game. Lineker, the paper
reported, has lost some pace but is still a threat but the reporter doubts
whether he will have the same affect on Japanese football that Pele had on
North American football.
James.
|
33.1295 | Some Mistake | CLADA::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Auld game.... | Tue Apr 27 1993 17:26 | 11 |
|
Amazing isn't it .
Billy Bremner gave Denis Irwin and Terry Phelan free transfers
on the same day some seven years ago...don't times change....
What a mistake.....
By the way where in Bremner now?????
jm
|
33.1296 | Big Billy Bremner | FORTY2::FOWLERM | | Tue Apr 27 1993 18:02 | 19 |
| A couple of seasons Billy Bremner was sacked as manager of Doncaster Rovers F.C.
for successfully turning a team that came second in the F.A. Youth Championship
into a bunch of hopeless losers at the bottom of the league and for a net gain of
25p in transfer fees. Not that I'm bitter at all....
Then, last night, the fat get had the gall to turn up in the Heroes Gallery on
Standing Room Only and say he wants to manage a national side. Yeah right.
In your dreams pal.
This was actually the second time Bremner had been in charge at Donny. His
previous accomplishments included selling Glynn and Ian Snodin (the latter of
whom was at that point a regular in the England U-21 Squad) to Leeds for no
money at all (250K for Ian, less for Glynn) and then resigning to become Leeds
manager a short while after.
Well done Billy. Don't think we Rovers fans bear a grudge or anything...
Mike
|
33.1297 | Leeds are at the top again! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Apr 30 1993 21:05 | 15 |
|
I would just like to state for the records that I beleive Leeds (Leeds
Leeds) are the best side in the world and could beat any team at any
time, league or international.
The alleged poor performance of Leeds (Leeds Leeds) is obviously a
darstardly(sp?) plot, if we look behind the scenes I am sure that you
will find Leeds (Leeds Leeds) have never lost a single game ever
ever ever....
Yours in reality??
SteveP
p.s. 1-1 at home to QPR (you heard it here first).
|
33.1298 | Leeds champions no more! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon May 03 1993 12:59 | 15 |
| re -1
Steve,
Did I smell smoke in your room last night. I told you not to smoke the gear
before noting :-).
Look like Leeds are heading for a situation which is unlikely to have happened
before of not winning an away game but still not having one single league double
scored against them. By getting a point from QPR it prevented the only team
with a chance of doubling over us from doing so.
Roll on next season ... and a few away victories. Is that too much to ask?
Oh one last thing Leeds for the youth cup!
|
33.1299 | One years holiday - that's all! | SUBURB::PRATTJ | You're joking - Jason what? | Tue May 04 1993 17:53 | 13 |
| RE: 1297
Stevie,
Keep taking the pills and we can only hope for a miraculous
recovery.....see your crystal ball still works though!!!
Wasn't the lack of away form that kept us in the Second Division for
all those years? Hope we don't stay on this slippery slope.
Here's to next Year!
Jas.
|
33.1300 | So close but yet so far | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Wed May 05 1993 16:57 | 12 |
| Sheff Wed. 1 - 1 Leeds
Aaaaaaaggggghhhhhhhhhh. Sheff Wed robbed Leeds of their first away victory in a
year with a last gasp equaliser last night. I suppose it is only a little
justice as we walloped them, last term, 6-1 on their own patch. Chapman or O.G.
opened the scoring but Hirst closed the game on a downer for Leeds fans.
Lets pretend this season never happened. Maybe it might be like Bobby Ewing's
dream ... I will wake up and think that Leeds are still champs and that
we have won an away game recently.
James.
|
33.1301 | Steve (the cat) Page for Goalie. | SUBURB::PRATTJ | You're joking - Jason what? | Thu May 06 1993 16:58 | 19 |
|
Is there any truth in the rumour (straight from the Independent) that
one Gordon Strachan (there's only one), might be leaving to take a
Player/Manager role at Barnsley.
In my humble opinion he should have gone last year, on a high to
compare with Steve Page, giving a chance for Hodge and Rocastle to take
over his mantle.
As for winning away from home.....it's over-rated, I don't think
there's another team that can claim such an imperfect record!!!
As for Coventry on Saturday, if its not a dire 0-0 afair like last year
then I think with should be good enough to keep our record intact. 1-0
to Coventry and we live to fight another day.
Jas :-o
|
33.1302 | Leeds away record | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Thu May 06 1993 17:19 | 10 |
| It great that we can smile about not winning a single away game all season.
The smile could have been on the other side of our face if our home form
hadn't held together *all* through the season.
As for Lukic' gift to Hirst on Tuesday I am speechless, only seconds away from
the ice breaker and he drops it. Thats nearly as bad as dropping Morrow after
scoring the winning goal (*joke*). I wouldn't have liked to have been Lukic in
the dressingroom afterwards. If looks could kill...
James.
|
33.1303 | A SAD ACT TO FOLLOW!!! | SUBURB::PRATTJ | You're joking - Jason what? | Fri May 07 1993 16:39 | 7 |
| James,
I'd be surprised if big John didn't have a little wager down at
ladbrokes!!! Think of the odds he could of got at the start of the
season, I think I'd drop a few a Hirsts' feet for that money!!!
Jason.
|
33.1304 | Any news of the youth cup final vs Man United? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Fri May 07 1993 17:22 | 0 |
33.1305 | Fiasco at Coventry | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon May 10 1993 13:48 | 25 |
| Coventry 3 - 3 Leeds
What a game from what I heard. There was a pitch invasion at the end. You think
Leeds had won the game? Rodney put his shooting boots on for the first time this
season and scored a hat trick. This was the confidence booster he needed all
season. Whyte was send off after 58 minutes and Leeds go 3-1 down with only a
minute to go when in steps Rodney to score two goals with the last one being 3
minutes into injury time. The sunday express said basically the Leeds thugs are
at it again re:: pitch invasion. Was there any noters there to see what really
happened? The reporter claimed to have witnessed a few injured policemen after
the match. How true?
So we bacame the first team not to win an away game but escape relegation from
the top flight. 18 teams before us have suffered the fate of not winning a
single away game. Each of them were relegated. I can only, off hand, think
of 6 or the 7 games we got results from away from home this term:
Villa 1-1 (1-0 down)
Oldham 2-2 (2-0 up with 5 minutes to go)
Arsenal 0-0
Forest 1-1 (1-0 up)
Sheff Wed 1-1 ( 1-0 up with a minute to go)
Coventry 3-3 ( 3-1 down with a minute to go)
Southampton?
James.
|
33.1306 | Long Hot Summer | CLADA::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Auld game.... | Tue May 11 1993 12:59 | 9 |
|
Only 2 points above relegated Palace , too close for comfort...
All Leeds players need a good rest over the Summer if they can ,
that's if their not on International duty....
Have a good one
jm
|
33.1307 | At least we have the youths | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue May 11 1993 14:27 | 8 |
| Man U 0 - 2 Leeds
Leeds youths are on their way to the youth cup after a fantastic victory against
a good United team last night. The second leg is on Thursday. The only thing
I would be worried about is sitting back on a 2 goal lead like they did agianst
Norwich in the semi-finals. Come on the lads. Very well done.
James.
|
33.1308 | First ?? | OPG::TONY | | Tue May 11 1993 16:33 | 5 |
| Is it true that this is Leed's first ever FA Youth Cup final..???
Amazing when you think they're supposed to be a big club..!!
Tony
|
33.1309 | Not that Big v little Joke Again | PANIC::ANDERSON | The original Magpies | Tue May 11 1993 16:49 | 11 |
| What's being a 'Big Club' got to do with it ?
- Liverpool have never won it
- Before last year, M. Utd. went 28 years wihout a victory
- In the last five finals, Charlton, Doncaster, Watford and Millwall
have made appearences.
It shows where the good youth coaches are; not the 'Big Clubs' that
then poach the prodigious talent.
Rob
|
33.1310 | Leeds first appearance | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue May 11 1993 20:02 | 10 |
| re -2
It is Leeds first appearance in the final. I think before this season they
hadn't reached the semi-finals before.
re -1
How many of the "smaller" teams have won it from that list?
James.
|
33.1311 | a win away!!! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri May 14 1993 20:28 | 4 |
|
leeds win the yoof cup 4-1 on aggregate
SteveP
|
33.1312 | Out | ESSB::BLONG | UNITED Premier League CHAMPIONS 1993 | Sat May 15 1993 15:42 | 3 |
33.1313 | gossip | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Tue May 25 1993 21:29 | 11 |
33.1314 | David O'Leary | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Wed Jun 02 1993 18:28 | 7 |
|
Apparently Leeds have offered David O'leary a three year contract.
Can someone tell me WHY???
Shafiq.
|
33.1315 | | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Just another Day!! | Wed Jun 02 1993 18:36 | 2 |
|
Because he's a great player, simple really!!
|
33.1316 | HW needs his head looked at | PLUNDR::MORAN | Tripple ripple truffle shuffler | Wed Jun 02 1993 18:41 | 7 |
|
He's 35 and Leeds already have two lumbering lummoxes playing at centre
half. O'Leary should not tarnish a wonderful player career by playing
on past his sell by date. IMHO, he should retire and look for a coaching
or managerial role.
Tim
|
33.1317 | Who up front? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Jun 14 1993 17:19 | 4 |
|
Any transfer news??? Duncan Ferguson??? any striker???
SteveP
|
33.1318 | Next season | CLADA::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Auld game.... | Wed Jun 16 1993 15:05 | 18 |
|
According to today's Star Leeds are about to set up a 4 Million plus
deal to take Duncan Ferguson and Des Walker to Elland Road......
Is David O'Leary still joinging Leeds.....
Leeds team for next Season should look like this...
Lukic
Kerslake O'Leary Walker Dorigo
Stracken McAllister Batty Speed
Ferguson Wallace
Then again it could be completely different.....time will tell
jm
|
33.1319 | Rumor-mill | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Wed Jun 16 1993 16:18 | 13 |
|
re last
According to the daily rags up here, Leeds have offered 3 million
quid for big Drunken Duncan. How much do the reckon they'll have to
pay to get Des Walker from Italy? More than 2 million I would reckon.
To increase the rumors, Rangers are meant to be preparing a bid for
Gary Speed. I don't see it myself, as that would only increase the
number of foreigners at Ibrox.
Danny.
|
33.1320 | the two forgotten midfielders? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Jun 16 1993 21:16 | 5 |
| do leeds still have Rocastle and Hodge keeping the bench warm?
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
33.1321 | Rocky replaces wee Gordon??? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Wed Jun 16 1993 21:37 | 5 |
|
Yes Hodge and "Rocky" Rocastle are still on the bench perhaps we will
see more of them as Strachan plays less.
SteveP
|
33.1322 | | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Mon Jun 21 1993 18:43 | 4 |
|
|
33.1323 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | DANGER: Volatile Database at large | Mon Jun 21 1993 19:05 | 6 |
|
re .1322
I agree, there's nothing more to be said on the subject. ;-)
Tim
|
33.1324 | Walker??? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Jun 22 1993 16:18 | 6 |
|
Allegedly Duncan Ferguson was at Leeds Yesterday for talks!!
Any new news on transfers? Has anyone offered anything for Chapman etc.
SteveP
|
33.1325 | David Oleary | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Tue Jun 22 1993 16:51 | 6 |
|
David O'Leary (aged 35!!) has joined Leeds on a 3 year contract.
Shafiq.
|
33.1326 | Cheap seats!!!!! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Tue Jun 22 1993 17:41 | 20 |
|
I believe that we are on the verge of signing Ferguson for just
over 3 million. Wilko is still looking for another central defender,
Walker and Ruddock have been enquired about. Mervyn Day has gone to
Huddersfield no-one has come in for Whyte,Chapman or Shutt yet.
I have been allocated a seat in the new East stand for next season
the cost for the season ticket was ....wait for it 40.00 pounds !!!!
The new strip for next season will se Leeds playing in stripes away
from home, the home strip will be all white with a wide blue band
across the middle with yellow edges. The shorts are the baggy kind with
blue and yellow trim. The new kit supplier is Asics and the sponsor on
the front will be Thistle hotels.
Paul......
|
33.1327 | 40 quid a season ...?!?!! | WOTVAX::MACDONALDI | Stalybridge Celtic | Tue Jun 22 1993 19:29 | 7 |
|
Season Ticket 40.00 pounds.. If this is true I'd say that was a
bargain.
The new wide baggy shorts, are they SILKY shorts Paul?????
Ian
|
33.1328 | Are u sure, what' the catch ? | OPG::TONY | | Tue Jun 22 1993 19:30 | 9 |
| RE.1326 >>I have been allocated a seat in the new East stand for next season
>>the cost for the season ticket was ....wait for it 40.00 pounds !!!!
Paul,
Is this a typo or just a reflection of what you'll be watching next season..!!
Tony
|
33.1329 | Check that ticket now | UNTADH::WILCOCKSON | zero will power | Tue Jun 22 1993 19:57 | 3 |
|
Are you sure the seats is IN the ground, not the car park?
|
33.1330 | only kidding, guys..honest! 8-) | TRUCKS::SANT | Comfortably none | Wed Jun 23 1993 12:41 | 2 |
|
..might be a more interesting view in the car-park... ;-)
|
33.1331 | Where's Admiral | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Wed Jun 23 1993 12:59 | 7 |
| What has happened to Admiral if we are being now sponsored by Thistle Hotels.
I thought they had a multi-year contract with Leeds? Seemingly not!
As for $40 for a season ticket. Is that a joke or has Paul sneaked into the
kiddies section because of his youthful babylike looks :-).
James.
|
33.1332 | Ferguson for 3.25 million | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Wed Jun 23 1993 14:48 | 29 |
|
O.K. Guys here's the deal......
Unlike some of the bonds which some disreputable clubs were trying to
force upon their fans, I think that the Leeds bond is very good value
for money.
Leeds needed the cash for the new east stand so they gave fans the
option to buy a 500.00 bond up front or through installments over a
year. The bond entitles you to 100.00 pounds off your season ticket
every year for the next seven years (i.. 700.00 return for those of you
with bad maths Ian...). As my terrace ticket(now a seat) was only
140.00 last season my season ticket price this coming season is 140.00
minus the 100.00 discount for buying the bond. This 140 will ONLY
increase by the rate of inflation each year so i'm looking at paying
not much more than 40 the year after next if inflation stays down.
On top of all this you do get discount on sportswear,1st refusal on
any cup games (home or away) and a nice litlle certificate with you
name on it. Oh and your name on your new seat if you want it.I think
you'll agree its better than the deal Arsenal and West Ham were
selling YES???
Paul....
|
33.1333 | Great scheme.... | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Just another Day!! | Wed Jun 23 1993 15:08 | 4 |
|
Fair paly to leeds for being honest and fair with their fans.
Unlike my Team!!
|
33.1334 | That is an excellent scheme, good value. Fair play........ | KBOMFG::TANNER | Someone somewhere in summertime!!!!!! | Wed Jun 23 1993 15:57 | 0 |
33.1335 | | KIRKTN::AMILLAR | And some late news just in... | Fri Jun 25 1993 12:31 | 2 |
|
Lovely old job!!
|
33.1336 | ferguson on his way to Elland Road | BAHTAT::SKIDAW::aldertonm | | Fri Jun 25 1993 13:26 | 7 |
33.1337 | yes | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Jun 25 1993 19:46 | 7 |
|
I have just heard that Personal terms have been agreed and Duncan
Ferguson has signed for LEEDS!!!!
Wilko's best signing for ages
Steve
|
33.1338 | Deal off? | KIRKTN::AMILLAR | And some late news just in... | Sun Jun 27 1993 23:53 | 7 |
|
Reports in the Sunday press say that Ferguson has turned down the
Leeds offer. Maybe he felt it was too much for somebody of his
class!!
Archie
|
33.1339 | Lets call the whole thang off!!! | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Mon Jun 28 1993 20:15 | 19 |
|
The current state of play with Leeds signing Ferguson is as follows :-
Ferguson has agreed personal terms with Leeds but is not happy about
a clause in the contract drawn up by Dundee that states Leeds or any
other subsequent clubs cannot sell Ferguson on to Rangers.Ferguson
wants this clause removed.
Ferguson believes that the Dundee manager is trying to control his
career even after he will have left Dundee!!!,(whether to Leeds OR
Rangers).
There must be some bad blood somewhere... can any one elaborate???
Paul....
|
33.1340 | Fixtures for 93-94 please ? | KERNEL::NDAY | Quazimodo sang,'It started with a syst' | Tue Jun 29 1993 20:46 | 8 |
| Can someone post the fixtures for the coming season please.
I might add that its for a friend of mine (I already have the fixtures
for the champions !!)
Glory Glory !!
nige.
|
33.1341 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | DANGER: Volatile Database at large | Tue Jun 29 1993 21:06 | 5 |
|
They're on rec.sport.soccer, if you can't get access, I'll pull them in
here tomorrow.
Tim
|
33.1342 | Unsure how to access ! | KERNEL::NDAY | Quazimodo sang,'It started with a syst' | Tue Jun 29 1993 21:17 | 9 |
| Tim,
I don't know how to access that..
A posting here would be much appreciated..
Thanks again.
Nige.
|
33.1343 | | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Middle Path towards enlightenment | Tue Jun 29 1993 23:58 | 7 |
|
Tim,
post them here this minute ya here. And while your at it, please post
Wokings fixtures for the new season. Much obliged.
Gazzer
|
33.1344 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Jun 30 1993 00:38 | 64 |
| from the net.....
August
14 Man City (A)
17 West Ham (H)
21 Norwich (H)
24 Arsenal (A)
28 Liverpool (A)
30 Oldham (H)
September
11 Southampton (A)
18 Sheff Utd (H)
25 Coventry (A)
October
2 Wimbledon (H)
17 Ipswich (A)
23 Blackburn (H)
30 Sheff Wed (A)
November
6 Chelsea (H)
20 Tottenham (A)
23 Everton (A)
27 Swindon (H)
December
4 Man City (H)
8 West Ham (A)
11 Norwich (A)
18 Arsenal (H)
27 Newcastle (A)
28 QPR (H)
January
1 Man Utd (A)
3 Aston Villa (H)
15 Ipswich (H)
22 Blackburn (A)
Febuary
12 Sheff Wed (H)
19 Liverpool (H)
26 Oldham (A)
March
5 Southampton (H)
12 Sheff Utd (A)
19 Coventry (H)
26 Wimbledon (A)
30 Aston Villa (A)
April
2 Newcastle (H)
4 QPR (A)
9 Man Utd (H)
16 Tottenham (H)
23 Chelsea (A)
30 Everton (H)
May
7 Swindon (A)
|
33.1345 | DUNDEE UTD VS FERGUSON VS RANGERS VS LEEDS | KIRKTN::CPHILLIPS | | Wed Jun 30 1993 12:15 | 64 |
| Re Ferguson bad blood:
He's desperate to join Rangers. Rangers are equally keen to sign him.
They have bid 3.6 million up front plus 100,000 for every 100 appearances
he makes at Ibrox. The Dundee Utd manager and chairman (Jim McLean) has
been rumoured to say that he would rather see Ferguson out of football all
together than go to Rangers. He is now insisting that any buyer must have
a clause in Ferguson's contract which disallows them from selling him to
Rangers.
Mclean claims that the only reason for this is because he sees Rangers
as one of his main rivals. Most people reckon McLean detests
Rangers because of one of (or all of) the following reasons:-
- Rangers bid 2.5 million for Ferguson a few months ago, just before
the signing deadline for the European Cup. Mclean categorically denied
that Rangers had put in any bid. David Murray (Rangers chairman) went
on national radio/TV and announced that Rangers had indeed put in a
bid. Rangers players and management gave interviews saying how much
they would like Ferguson in the team. Mclean was WELL pissed off - he
reckoned that 1) the bid should never have been announced and 2)
Rangers were trying to deliberately unsettle Ferguson. Mclean admitted
he lied over the bid, rejected the bid and the SFA fined Rangers for
trying to unsettle Ferguson.
- Richard Gough. Gough was Dundee Utd's best player by a mile. Similar
story to Ferguson. Rangers wanted him, he wanted to go. Utd refused. In
the end they accepted a bid from Spurs that was around 500,000 lower than
Rangers. Rangers promptly bought Gough from Spurs after a season or
so down there. McLean was WELL pissed. This is why he's trying to get a
buyer for Ferguson who will refuse to sell him back to Rangers.
- Walter Smith. Walter is the Rangers manager, but used to be Dundee Utd
assistant manager. Walter was the first signing Souness made when he
came to Ibrox. McLean has been speaking about retiring for the last 10
years. Smith was obviously being groomed for the job until Rangers stepped
in. Since then several of Dundee Utd's background staff have joined
Rangers. McLean's still looking for someone to take over from him.
- Money. Rangers have lots, Utd have none. McLean often describes his job
as running a corner shop and competing with a superstore. Maybe so, but
don't blame Rangers for being successful. It's up to teams like Utd to
generate their own money, try to keep their best players and compete with
Rangers.
- "What might have been". When Rangers were at their lowest in the early
eighties (and believe me that was LOW!!), McLean turned down the managers
job. Could he be regreting that decision now ??
So there we have it. In my opinion McLean is definitely anti-Rangers,
but then so are most non-Rangers fans in Scotland. A bit like Man Utd in
England, you either love them because they are big,rich and successful or
hate them for the same reasons.
Will Ferguson join Rangers ?? Sure, but either via another club or if
Mclean finally retires. I make Leeds slight favourites to sign him at the
moment.
Is he worth the money ?? I'd say so, especially to Rangers since 1) he's
Scottish, and 2) he's the ideal man to replace for Hately when he finally
chucks it (although I think the big guys still got another couple of
seasons in him).
Colin.
|
33.1346 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | DANGER: Volatile Database at large | Wed Jun 30 1993 13:30 | 6 |
|
re .1344
Hey, steal my thunder why don't you ;-) (I'd already got them an' all).
Tim
|
33.1347 | He certainly looks like a hun!! | PAKORA::MCAMERON | Martin | Fri Jul 02 1993 00:54 | 24 |
| Re .1345,
Just a few obsevations............
According to Howard Wilkinson in the paper today. There is no
and never has been any clause in Ferguson's contract disallowing them
from selling him to rangers at a later date..
David Murray phoned Jim McLean and offered 2.5 mill for Ferguson. He
did not officially table a bid..
This is why McLean denied that rangers had made an official bid. He
did not think it was appropriate for a major club to approach him
in such a furtive underhand manner..
Is it not common sense to assume that Jim McLean does not want to
sell his best player to his biggest rivals??
Rather than assume that it is because 'no one likes us' (yawn yawn!).
Martin SQFCSC.....
|
33.1348 | Go Back to bed you ugly Tims ..... 8-) | PAKORA::TDOLAN | | Fri Jul 02 1993 02:37 | 13 |
33.1349 | Gary Speed Stays | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Sun Jul 04 1993 16:13 | 5 |
|
Gary Speed has signed a new contract with Leeds. This effectively ends
all the rumours of his impending departure!
S
|
33.1350 | No Fergie :-( | JGODCL::SHERLOCK | L.U.F.C. The phoenix has risen | Mon Jul 05 1993 19:23 | 4 |
| According to CEEFAX the Ferguson deal is definitely off,
HW got fed up waiting for him to make up his mind...
Tim
|
33.1351 | Fergie not worth the hassle | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Mon Jul 05 1993 21:18 | 11 |
|
Hi Tim,
Nice to se you are still around. howard wilkinson is now
concentrating on getting Brian Deane from Sheff Utd who put a
transfer request in last thursday. Dundee are still maintaining that
Ferguson WILL NOT go to Rangers and still maintain that clause in the
contract oif the team that eventually buys him.
Paul...
|
33.1352 | | PEKING::COSSEYN | | Tue Jul 06 1993 21:53 | 5 |
|
According to the radio Brian Deane has signed for around 2 1/2 to 3
million.
Neil.
|
33.1353 | Deane = $3,000,000 | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Jul 06 1993 22:16 | 0 |
33.1354 | New strip | JGODCL::SHERLOCK | Leeds United | Wed Jul 07 1993 12:04 | 18 |
|
Paid a visit to the Leeds boutique the other week and saw the new
home and away strip on show, ASICS have taken over from Admiral
as kit sponsor, a certain hotel chain have replaced Admiral as
shirt sponsor.
Wasn't particularly impressed with the new home strip, although
it is quite similar to last years, the shirt has a yellow and blue
horizontal hoop at about "belly-button" height..
The away strip is something else, I think it's fantastic. 2 inch
blue and yellow vertical stripes, blue shorts, and blue socks,
the same shade of blue that they used for the disastrous European
cup strip.
Tim
Tim
|
33.1355 | Deane v Ferguson | CLADA::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Auld game.... | Wed Jul 07 1993 12:50 | 10 |
|
How good a buy will Brian Deane be ?????.
will he score as many goals as Lee Chapman ....
Which is the better buy , Deane or Ferguson ?????
jm
|
33.1356 | Can't go wrong with an ex-Rover 8-) | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Finishing's not his strong point | Wed Jul 07 1993 16:04 | 8 |
33.1357 | It's happened again!!! | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Jul 08 1993 01:41 | 23 |
|
Sheffield will be getting s.f.a. from Leeds as Leeds have pulled out
of the deal. The two chairman had agreed a price of 3 mil but the board
at sheffield vetoed that price and said that they wanted more as yet
undisclosed but rumoured to be 3.5 mil. another club came in for Deane
during the day but their offer was refused as well. Leslie Silver and
Les Brierly(?) had made an agreement verbally but Les Brierly's board
threw that price out. Leslie Silver said that's his final offer and
Leeds are NOT going to get into an auction for Deane.
C'est la Vie Two down who's next !!!!!!
Paul
|
33.1358 | | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Thu Jul 08 1993 14:22 | 10 |
|
Re -.1
Sorry Sheffield Chairman should read Reg Brealey
Paul..
|
33.1359 | Pre season tour of Ireland | CLADA::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Auld game.... | Thu Jul 08 1993 19:50 | 6 |
|
What the itinery for Leeds pre season tour of Ireland ..
Are they coming to Galway to play Galway United and if so when
jm
|
33.1360 | Leeds in Ireland | GALVIA::SPAIN | Going to the USA | Thu Jul 08 1993 21:56 | 5 |
|
The Galway game is off. Leeds play in Dublin and Cork. I think the
Cork game is on July 21st.
Gary.
|
33.1361 | Deane goes up the motorway | MIACT::MASON | There's only one UNITED | Wed Jul 14 1993 17:20 | 15 |
| Paul...
What are you doing in 32 when there is news to be reported in
here??!!??
Brian Deane signed for Leeeedsss yesterday for a reputed 2.75 mill. It is
reported that Dave Bassett will resign/get kicked out over it as fans
are furious and he wanted to hold out for 3.5mill but couldn't get
Howard over the barrel.
Howard Wilkinson stated that he always wanted Deane and only went after
Ferguson because he thought Deane was unavailable. He is reported to be
ecstatic that he has "got his man".
J
|
33.1362 | Leeds In Ireland | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Fri Jul 23 1993 12:51 | 5 |
| Leeds played Cork City in Cork on Wednesday evening with their two new signings
on view: Brian Deane and David O'Leary. The game itself was watched by over
6,000 fans. Leeds won the game comfortably 3-0 (2-0 HT) with goals from
Rocastle, Speed, and A.N. Other. I think they play Shels in Dublin sometime
this weekend.
|
33.1363 | | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Fri Jul 23 1993 18:23 | 11 |
|
Actually James the A.N. other was Carl Shutt !!! have you seen the
new away strip yet...... smart. I may try and get to see them
play Grimsby in a pre-season friendly , what trining for the new
season eh!!! we don't waste money going to South AaaaFriker ....
Paul.....
|
33.1364 | Satan's holiday resort. | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Finishing's not his strong point | Fri Jul 23 1993 18:51 | 13 |
| Re: -1
>>>
we don't waste money going to South AaaaFriker ....
>>>
....You go to somewhere much worse!
I speak from experience. (21 years it took me to escape)
Have the Leeds players done something to upset the management?
Mike
|
33.1365 | LOI selection vs. Leeds result | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Jul 26 1993 12:57 | 16 |
| The usual story with Leeds during their second engagement versus a league of
Ireland selection in Dublin Friday evening last. I couldn't make the game as I
was partly moving house and had a case of the "are Leeds United more important
that me, your girlfriend/wife" syndrome :-).
The game ended 2-2. Leeds were 1-0 down and 2-1 up. The Leeds lineup was
different from Wednesday with a few of the younger players getting a game
including a guy called Tobin whom I hadn't heard of before. Youth cup player?
The same frailties were to the fore with egg shell thin centre backs,
goalkeeper misjudgement (second goal) and lack of attacking options (no Deane).
Mix that in with the apparent ill-at-ease of playing "away from home" resulted
in the LOI selection gaining a creditable draw against Leeds. Nuff said. It
was like reading about last seasons performance away from home all over again
:-(. I earnestly hope it isn't a bad omen for the new season.
James.
|
33.1366 | | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Wed Jul 28 1993 16:31 | 9 |
|
Dylan Kerr has joined Reading for 75K.
I understand that Portsmouth are interested in Chapman as well.
Any news on whether Whyte has been sold?
Shafiq.
|
33.1367 | odds | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Jul 30 1993 20:23 | 5 |
|
Can anyone tell me what the bookies are giving for Leeds to win the
league etc.
SteveP
|
33.1368 | Latest Friendly result | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Mon Aug 02 1993 17:19 | 11 |
|
Hibs 0 Leeds 2
Whelan
Deane
Shafiq.
|
33.1369 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon Aug 02 1993 17:32 | 13 |
| It can't be!!!
NAAAHHH!!!
An away win!!!
What's one of those ????
;-)
Al ( In shock )
|
33.1370 | I.... | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | Some Will,Some Won't,I Would | Tue Aug 03 1993 02:23 | 14 |
| re-2........
some freindly I must say !!!!
44 arrests as Hibs fans chased the leeds fans all around Edinburgh's
city centre........
I bet the tourists will remember to come back next year.......NOT
SQF Jambo
P.S.
out of the 44 arrests,42 of them came from the Edinburgh area
|
33.1371 | Its true....honest..!! | PAKORA::SWRIGHT | | Tue Aug 03 1993 02:36 | 7 |
| And the other 2 were on a day trip from Bo'ness.....!!!!
|
33.1372 | 1st of many? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Aug 03 1993 17:04 | 6 |
|
Away Away Away... Leeds win Away
Mind you it's not the league....
SteveP
|
33.1373 | EASY WIN | PAKORA::JCRONIN | HMFC | Tue Aug 03 1993 17:13 | 4 |
| You will never get an easier away win,as Hibs are the worst teams in
the United Kingdom.
FERRY JAMBO.
|
33.1374 | am I awake? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Aug 03 1993 17:52 | 5 |
|
I have been told that Hibs are a great team, strong, valient, enduring,
quick and deadly. It is a credit to LEEDS to beat such a team..
SteveP
|
33.1375 | AM I DREAMING? | KIRKTN::JCRONIN | HMFC | Tue Aug 03 1993 18:01 | 4 |
| Even the HIBS FANS ? who were at the game,said their team played a lot
of rubbish.
FERRY JAMBO.
|
33.1376 | don't squirm | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Wed Aug 04 1993 18:21 | 11 |
|
Well they would say that wouldn't they!!!!!!!. considering that they got
beat.
What true fan wouln't say it was the ball ref !!!!
Paul...
|
33.1377 | | PEKING::TPORT_QUOTES | | Mon Aug 09 1993 13:18 | 16 |
33.1378 | | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Wed Aug 11 1993 14:46 | 7 |
33.1379 | Whyte now gone | CLADA::JMURPHY | It's a Funny Auld game.... | Wed Aug 11 1993 20:41 | 8 |
|
Chris Whyte has according to todays STAR joined Birmingham City
for 475,000 . It says Whyte is only 31 , I thought he was more .
Still he did the business in the Championship year....
What will Leeds look like on Sat against Man City.....
jm
|
33.1380 | | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Just another Day!! | Wed Aug 11 1993 21:00 | 2 |
|
Rubbish !!!! 8^)
|
33.1381 | | KIRKTN::CGALLAGHER | | Wed Aug 11 1993 22:11 | 4 |
|
It'll probably have lots of buldings and roads 'n that....:-)
|
33.1382 | | ECCGY4::HAIGH | Swipe me wiv a jellied eel | Thu Aug 12 1993 13:38 | 7 |
|
Re last,
"It'll probably have lots of buldings and roads 'n that....:-)"
Obviously you've never been to Leeds. :]
Are Leeds going for a hatrick of 4-0 drubbings at Maine Road?
|
33.1383 | don't want no humble pie | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Aug 13 1993 22:04 | 6 |
|
It's six o'clock friday evening I'm away home and looking forward to
Monday when I can post the match results for Leeds start to the season
and First Away Win for ages.
SteveP
|
33.1384 | away games without win now = 22 | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Mon Aug 16 1993 08:35 | 5 |
|
Man City 1 Leeds Utd 1
well it wasn't a win, but look on the bright side ... it wasn't
0-4 ! no more details but I'll see the game tonight on TV.
|
33.1385 | Leeds Team on Saturday | PEKING::TPORT_QUOTES | | Mon Aug 16 1993 14:51 | 25 |
|
The Leeds Team on Saturday was:
Lukic
Kelley Fairclough O'Leary Dorigo
Strachan Mcalister Batty Speed
Dean Whelen
Rocastle was not even on the subs bench!
Whelen is an England U18 player who impressed several people on
Saturday.
Kelley is an Irish U21 player.
Shafiq.
|
33.1386 | 3 points | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Aug 17 1993 16:28 | 9 |
|
West Ham this evening at home.
Should be a good win. and perhaps a clean sheet, I predict that we
will win 2-0 1st goal from Speed about 30mins and Deane will get the
second arrounf 70mins. A good solid Midfield and plenty of chances at
goal.
SteveP
|
33.1387 | 1-0 = 3pts | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Wed Aug 18 1993 13:05 | 25 |
|
Leeds 1 West Ham 0
Speed(61)
Good and bad from last night,
Good- Leeds dominated the game for all but the last 4 minutes oh how
those last minutes are hell when your defending a 1-0 lead, The new
boys Kelly and Whelan put in good performances and no one really let
the team down. West ham hardly got a sniff and their first corner
didn't come till after 80 minutes.
Bad- We should put a lot more in the net, West Ham were played off the
field and we only have one goal.
We should do well this season being as strong as any team (if not
stronger) in mid-field, Defence will be better than last year although
it's not been tested yet and if the strikers get just a bit sharper we
could win everything!!
Can anyone tell me what happened to cause David O'Leary to need
treatment as the radio commentators had no idea. Was Dale Gordon
involved off the ball???
SteveP
|
33.1388 | | PIECES::63570::oneills | Place holder for NOTES | Thu Aug 19 1993 18:21 | 5 |
| A few years ago WHelan would also have been an Irish U18 player -:)
(I believe his parents are from Ireland)
Shane
|
33.1389 | 4-0 | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | eighty four days and counting | Sun Aug 22 1993 23:28 | 8 |
|
Come in Mr Page.........
Tony
|
33.1390 | I'm back but then why bother? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Aug 23 1993 19:51 | 17 |
| Leeds 0 - 4 Norwich
Inexplicable! Leeds folded like a nothing on earth Saturday losing their way
completely against a competent Norwich side. We made Norwich look good. Leeds
gift wrapped the game to Norwich and Norwich said thanks very much. Lukic even
extended the hand of friendship to a Norwich forward by throwing him the ball
to start the third goal. If the game was Ice Hockey, Lukic would have certainly
deserved an assist for his efforts. I have a feeling that we may have seen the
last of Lukic and some of the other defenders for a while to come. Beeney can't
be worse. Chapman, Whyte come back all is forgiven.
Arsenal tomorrow night - hooray another of our favourite teams. What a start
to the season with 6 games in the first 16 days. When will the powers to be
realise that you cannot subject a team to so many games over such a short time
span. Never, as long at there is money to be made.
James.
|
33.1391 | | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Thu Aug 26 1993 16:40 | 8 |
|
Leeds will play Sunderland in the Coca Cola Cup.
The first leg is away.
Shafiq.
|
33.1392 | back with a bump! | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Aug 30 1993 16:31 | 18 |
|
Oh Hell.
I go off on a little holiday and come back to get three bad results
thrown against me 0-4 at home! to Norwich!!, 2-1 away to the Arse and
2-0 away to Liverpool.....
Our defence is the worst and looks like staying the worst unless HW
does somthing. Our midfield will match anyone our attack is ok no real
world beaters... but in defence we are losing games who can we buy?
should we look abroad. HW is getting hate mail and booed at matches
how long should he get to sort out the rot?? He did wonders for the
team over the last few years last season excepted. Only 5 games into
the season and starting to worry..
SteveP
are we playing Oldham this evening and what are our chances??
|
33.1393 | ominous | SIOG::HOWARD | I go to extremes | Mon Aug 30 1993 21:33 | 13 |
| Howard Wilkinson commented on Friday that Leeds weren't getting enough
from their set pieces. He said that they had 22 set pieces in the
previous two matches and got nothing from them and that this must
improve etc.etc.
what a load of crap....I think this statement says a lot about the state
of the English game,(which in my opinion has improved tremendously in
the last few seasons). Never mind the quality of the players...set
pieces are the most important thing....With guys like this running top
clubs I think we can safely say that the long ball is here to stay...
Thank God for Ferguson, Atkinson, Hoddle, Gerry Francis et al....
Long may they prosper....
Ray....(a qpr supporter)
|
33.1394 | A storm in a tea cup | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Aug 30 1993 21:46 | 34 |
| Albeit Leeds has had three loses in a row, the next two home games are crucial
to put the team back in a winning frame of mind. Oldham and Sheff. Utd aren't
world beaters and two victories will see us back mid-table. A lack of goals
up front should be rectified. We need to see Deane back on the score sheet
together with young Whelan. If Rodney got a goal or two it would also settle
him down. Remember the trough he went through for a good part of last year?
I think the Liverpool and Arsenal games were hangovers from the Norwich
thrashing. However, it shows that we *won't* be up there challanging for the
main honours. The year we won the league a crushing defeat wouldn't become a
landslide. What's the difference between this team and the one that won only
1 1/2 years ago? I don't know but it could have a lot to do with ... morale.
Morale in Leeds must be very, very low. All those good players playing quite
badly together doesn't engender much team confidence. Couple this with the bad
run of luck being had, thing can only get better.
If Wilko can't pull the next two games out of the bag then he can start to say
his prayers realistically. Just look at the stats:
7 1 1 5 2 11 4 <- Very unhealthy for Wilko's health
on the other hand:
7 3 1 3 4 9 10 <- Much healthier
We need leadership in the eye of the storm and I don't think we are getting it.
McAllister or Batty or Speed should be stepping in there and making things
happen. Strachan is getting on. Where's Rocastle? We have a batch of young
players coming up but they have to be introduced in less pressurised situations.
A few thought to ponder while watching tonights match.
James.
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33.1395 | LEEDS 1-0 OLDHAM | GAOV10::MURPHY | | Tue Aug 31 1993 12:00 | 8 |
| Words of wisdom there James.Howard must have heard you as Leeds won
last night with a goal from your ever reliable Strachan.
Regards,
Anthony.
"
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33.1396 | Leeds on the winning trail again | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Aug 31 1993 13:18 | 36 |
| Leeds 1 - 0 Oldham
Strachan
Leeds courageously took the lead after 15 minutes with an excellently taken
shot from the old reliable Gordon Strachan. It was one of the only bright
points of the night punctuated mostly with sloppy, nervous play from a Leeds
team desperate for a win to take away some of the mounting pressure and
criticism generated from recent team performances. Leeds seems to have been
under instructions from their manager Wilko to get the ball up the field as
quickly as possible, contrary to the previous two games where the more cultured
route paid no dividends. Leeds goal came with a move started from the middle of
the Oldham half with a ball stabbed forward from McAllister (probably the only
thing either good or bad he did all night) to Speed on the edge of the box.
Speed saw Strachan running wide and free to his left (right of goal) and he
scooped/sidefooted the ball into Strachans path. Strachan took one touch, lined
the ball up and struck with the trusty right foot. The goalkeeper got a finger
to it but couldn't keep out the screamer. Leeds could have gone 2-0 up before
H-T except for some sharp goalkeeping from their young keeper when he reflexed
a sidefoot effort from Deane, from a cross by Wallace. Wallace had a seemingly
good goal disallowed when Strachan was adjudged to be offside though there was
an Oldham defender on the goal line when the shot was taken. I didn't
understand why the goal didn't stand.
Leeds started out the second half the way they played the first, but lost their
way bad during the course with Oldham coming back into the game strongly.
Oldham took advantage of the nervousness in the Leeds game and even had a goal
disallowed on a marginal offside decision. If Leeds had been playing a better
team they wouldn't have won but such is the game that you can't play the big
boys everyday (thank God) and Leeds eventually, to the fans relief, and mine too,
registered their first win in four games and hopefully gained a confidence
booster both for their defence and for our new Goalkeeper Beeney who was called
on to make only two saves, important as they were. Gary Kelly was impressive
with his calm approach to the game. He should turn out to be a very useful
right/full back.
James.
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33.1397 | 3pts is 3pts | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Aug 31 1993 13:19 | 32 |
|
From the Radio.
Leeds, I can't sy if the Leeds performance was better than the recent
defeats But the result was. a Strachan goal on 11 minutes was a great
start and part of a very exciting (from my point of view) first 20
minutes we camped out in the Oldham half and made plenty of chances, if
only we had a higher conversion rate!!
The first half continued to be dominated by Leeds with Strachan
involved in everything. Oldham never settled Leeds closing dow fast and
forcing early passes and mistakes. Oldham must have felt quite releived
to go in at half time only 1 down. The second half looked like
continuing the same, Leeds taking it to Oldham and Oldham not being up
to it. 25 minutes from the end and it started to change, Strachan
stopped being mentioned in every other breath and Oldham started to
spend time in the Leeds half. Although the Leeds defence made some
heart stopping errors of inexperience and clumsiness nothing was
unrecoverable and Oldham had no more luck than they deserved. So a
clean sheet for Leeds and three points and thats what matters.. or is
it?
Was it on Sky? did it look as bad as it sounded? all those stoppages
for offside...
team news.... Luckic was on the bench and Beany(sp) between the sticks
but as Oldham never had much of a chance to test him judgement will be
reserved.. funny of the night the radio commentators said that the
program carried a huge article heaping praise on Luckic and he never
played oops..
SteveP
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33.1398 | Football in the clouds 8-) | PAKORA::JOWENS | | Tue Aug 31 1993 15:51 | 11 |
| re-1
Yep it was on sky and apart from an occasional good move from Leeds it
was worse than it sounded. The goal was a `wee gem' and the next ten
or so minutes were reasonable with Deane have a ckeeky back heel effort
well saved. After that the ball wasn't on the ground for more than a
second at a time.
JMO
John.
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33.1399 | Southampton tickets Saturday??? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Sep 07 1993 21:21 | 9 |
| I hope to be in Southampton at the weekend for the occasion of our
first away win in 25 some attempts:-) There is only one problem: I
don't have a ticket and don't really know the process for getting
one without swearing eternal alliance to Southampton (spit). So
what should I do about a ticket - tell my story to Southampton and
hope they take pity? Scalp and hope? Some kind soul have tickets
to spare? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated...
James.
|
33.1400 | Rocastle for Stuart | CODS::D_DALY | | Fri Sep 10 1993 18:30 | 14 |
|
I read in some paper the other day (so it must be true) that Wilkinson and
Souness were negotiating a swap of Rocastle and Stuart. Both players were
reported as anxious that such a move should take place.
Why would Leeds want to swap a good player for which they have no use for a crap
palyer for which they have no use.
If Wilko wants to get rid of Rocastle surely he should sell him and buy a couple
of reasonable defenders. The current mid-fileders and the up and coming
mid-fielders are better than anything else in the league. Its at the back that he
needs to spend. (Obvious I Know....at least to all but HW)
derek.
|
33.1401 | as a striker ? | NEWOA::FIDO_T | Conation is the key | Fri Sep 10 1993 20:35 | 1 |
| Maybe he sees Stewart going back up front again.
|
33.1402 | Oh what fun | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Sep 13 1993 12:46 | 12 |
| Jingle bells, Jingle bells,
Jingle all the way,
Oh what fun it is to see United win away,
Oh, Jingle bells, Jungle bells, Jingle all the way.
On the scene match report including the pitch invasions at the end of the
game!! Also, exclusive - Paul Cadd (WELSWS::CADD) is out of the next match
with an injury incurred in celebrations of Speeds second goal.
More later.
James.
|
33.1403 | bring on the silver | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Sep 13 1993 17:58 | 5 |
|
What great news, This could be our season afterall!!
SteveP
|
33.1404 | Eye witness match report of Southampton V Leeds | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Sep 14 1993 14:14 | 150 |
| Report on the Premiership game - Leeds United V Southampton 11/9/1993
======================================================================
Leeds, before the game, had gone a full season, plus three games
without registering an away win - a total of 24 games. They had
become the first team ever to escape relegation from the top
division not having won an away game. Couple this with the
fact that Leeds had been champions the season before, the
decline in away fortunes was even more mysterious and worrying.
It isn't as if the chances hadn't been there for Leeds to win
away last term: Oldham 2-0 up with 5 minutes to go, Sheff. Wed
1-0 up with seconds remaining. This season hadn't started any
better with reversals already suffered at Arsenal and Liverpool.
Their only away point bring secured at Manchester City with a
last gasp equaliser from the new $2.75 million signing Brian
Deane. Beating Oldham 1-0 on 30 August had taken a bit of heat
off Wilkinson but another away defeat could well have lead to
calls for his resignation. Success has become expected and four
defeats in your first seven games is hard to accept if your a
Leeds fan. Southampton came into the game with their own
problems. Ian Branfoot, the manager, is under pressure from
some local supporters to resign after an abysmal start to their
season - five losses in the first six games. Their only bright
spot, thus far, being a 5-1 defeat of Swindon. Another loss
would be another nail in Branfoots managerial coffin.
The game was all ticket but I found little problems obtaining a
ticket, going down Friday lunchtime and obtaining a spare ticket
from a Southampton supporter. The Dell is a relatively small
ground about a mile from the city centre and I had no problems
walking from there out to the ground. Come Saturday morning I
made my way to the ground. There wasn't much of an atmosphere,
well what could I expect with the home team doing so badly at
the moment. There weren't too many Leeds fans around either.
Most of the away fans would make it down in time for the game
and little else. Those that drove usually congregate around two
pubs near the ground. This is where I had arranged to meet Paul
Cadd. He was only a few minutes late having been caught in
traffic on a motorway. He had a spare ticket for the Leeds end
which I said I would take if I could get past the "security"
outside the Leeds end. I hadn't bothered getting a Premiership
card for this seasons away games. The card is too expensive on
the off-chance I could get in an away game during the season.
Last season, I had one which I never got a chance to use :-(.
The mode of attack was to approach the ground around 2:55 when
it would be most busy and not look out of the ordinary. It
worked, I got through without being asked any questions, not
even to produce a membership card! The first thing I noticed on
getting into the ground was that the Leeds fans were making
most, no, all of the noise in the ground. Paul commented that in
previous years Leeds seats would have been occupied long before
kick-off, unlike this year where there were still gaps at the
Leeds end before kick-off. There were, however, quickly filled.
Leeds started out:
Beeney
Dorigo Wetherall Newsome Kelly
Batty McAllister Strachan Speed
Wallace Deane
To the game itself: the first half was poor with little in the
way of chances to either side. Much more of the danger being
generated by the Leeds side desperate for a win. Southampton
were poor. Both linesmen and the referee had poor games with
bad off-sides decisions being given against to both sides.
Strachan had a few shots over the bar together with McAllister
swaggering around, doing very little. Both McAllister and Speed
played some very poor cross field balls during the game. The
back line made a few errors but there wasn't anyone on the
Southampton side able to take advantage. Deane was playing well
out of position acting as a left wing, to such an extent that he
got a few crosses in during the first half. Wallace was chasing
around without being very effective. Leeds brought a good save
from the Southampton keeper with an indirect free kick before
half-time.
By the time I got to the bathroom and over to get something to
eat there was nothing hot left. The shop was poorly stocked in
either case. It wouldn't have taken much brains to realise that
Leeds would have a large number of travelling fans and that they
would like to eat. Seems that Southampton didn't cop that one.
The stand we were in was wooden and when a few of the fans tried
to light up their cigs. they were immediately pounced upon by
the attendants to cordially desist. So a couple of jokers in
the Leeds crowd started shouting "FAG, FAG, FAG" in a jovial
manner whenever anyone tried to smoke. It was a bit perplexing
the first time I heard the chant though, because of the other
associations that could be drawn from it!
Leeds had about 3 to 4 thousand at the game out of a total of
11,500. All the noise came from the end we were in throughout
the game. It was amazing the noise generated. I was hoarse by
half-time as a result. On the first half performance neither
side looks like scoring.
The second half started out the same as the first half with good
pressure from Leeds. Strachan has a good game and was man of
the match in my opinion. A Leeds frailty of late has been the
inability of the side to convert the pressure they exert on the
opposition. A concrete example of this was the number of
corners won and goals scored from corner opportunities by Leeds.
Leeds beat Southampton 4/5 to 1 in corner count but didn't look
like scoring from any of them. Remember all the goals scores
from set pieces and corners the first season we came back up?
Wallace had an appeal for a penalty turned down about 15 minutes
into the game. Tim Flowers in the Southampton goal hadn't much
to do before the first Leeds goal was scored. The ball went
down the Leeds left wing and was turned onto Deanes
outstretching head. He glanced the ball over Flowers head into
the right corner of the net. The Leeds fans went mad.
Brilliant. This put the fans in a good mood and the nervousness
wore away a little. Southampton didn't have much in the tank to
reply and Leeds were comfortable in the lead.
I knew the last 10 minutes would be nervous both for the fans
and the supporters, as had happened against Oldham the previous
week. This time around no great pressure was exerted by the
home team. Strachan had plugged away all day and was rewarded
in the closing moments when he dispossessed a Southampton player
on the byline, came across the penalty area and laid on a
beautiful ball from Speed to slot in the net. Ecstasy!! Speed
had done nothing else right the whole game, his overall game
looking jaded. A few games in the reserves could do him some
good. The fans were delighted which resulted in a pitch
invasion from the new stand behind the Southampton goal. All
good fun and mannerly, no problems. I suppose I could have
joined in except I was on the second tier of the other stand.
This is where Paul got injured. He was jumping up and down so
much he gashed his shin a bit on the seat in front of him. It
could mean him missing the next match as a result. This will be
a huge blow to the team ;-).
Magic. The 17 months of agony washed away at long last. The
run of 24 away games without a win didn't quite eclipse the
Leeds record of 26 incurred during the seasons 1938-39, 1946-47,
1947-48. This record was broken, too, at Southampton. History
repeats itself in some less than mysterious ways. On this
performance Leeds should record a few more away victories e.g.
Swindon. As for Southampton, they looked on Saturdays
performance a poor side with little hope of staying up *if* they
continue to play the way they did. This was my fourth Live
Leeds game, each of them has been Won by Leeds. Nice record to
have?
James.
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33.1405 | Sheff Utd Home | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Fri Sep 17 1993 18:31 | 11 |
| Should be a good crowd at Leeds tomorrow for the 'local' derby versus United!
Leeds are on a bit of a high and can improve on it tomorrow with another win
against a team whom we have a good record against.
If we win tomorrow, it will be the first time, to have win three games in a row,
since we won the league.
Another victory would also be good for morale with a tough looking League (or
whatever it is now) cup tie coming up against Sunderland soon.
James.
|
33.1406 | win | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Sep 17 1993 20:50 | 8 |
|
Prediction
Leeds 3 Sheff.U. 1
Deane Who cares
Batty!!
SteveP
|
33.1407 | Leeds 2 -1 Sheff Utd | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Sep 20 1993 15:25 | 16 |
| re -1
Steve, not to far wrong.
Leeds 2 - 1 Sheff Utd.
McAllister
Strachan
Leeds recorded their third league victory in a row in a close and spirited game.
They went two-nil up before Sheff Utd. got one back before H-T. Sheff Utd. had
their chances in the second but some luck, on Leeds part, kept the goals against
downto one. McAllister, it seems, scored a screamer and Strachan scored with
his left foot. The defence still seems a bit shaky. Sunderland away tomorrow
night in the Coke cup.
James.
|
33.1408 | Ohhh Ahhhh | OPG::TONY | | Mon Sep 20 1993 22:07 | 8 |
| In the spirit of goodwill, I don't think we (Man Utd) supporters
have ever thanked our Leeds neighbours for allowing us the opportunity to have
the one and only Ohhh Ahhhh Cantona..!!!
So on behalf of all of us.... THANK YOU..
Tony
|
33.1409 | he's french he's Flash.. | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Sep 20 1993 22:35 | 5 |
|
He has some of his best performances away from Home!! I think that's
what we were missing last year.
SteveP
|
33.1410 | Sunderland 2 -1 Leeds | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Wed Sep 22 1993 16:57 | 13 |
| Sunderland 2 - 1 Leeds
?,? Speed
Bloody hell, is this away jinx back to haunt Leed again. Sunderland bottom of
the first division against the more cultured and successful Leeds side.
Sunderland scored first and Leeds equalising with what seems like a copy book
goal on the half hour. Leeds had the much better of the second without scoring,
although they hit the post twice. Sunderland got the winner with 7 minutes to
go. All I can say is that, it was their cup final, not ours. Could they be
bothered putting in that kind of performance day in, day out in the league
now??? Doubt it!
James.
|
33.1411 | Eye witness report of the Sunderland vs Leeds game | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Thu Sep 23 1993 12:50 | 70 |
| Thanks to Mark Smith from Newcastle for this report straight from USENET:
Article: 26358
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: M.H.Smith@newcastle.ac.uk (Mark Smith)
Subject: sunderland leeds
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 09:04:06 GMT
Someone asked for a match report. This one was written by me for
our Leeds United mailing list so I admit it is biased !
Sunderland 2 Leeds 1
Well we lost but things aren't too bad.
Effectively it makes the tie a one match game at Elland Road - if we win 1-0
or better we are through. I'm not sure if the away goals rule applies to the
coca-cola.
What was encouraging was the way we played- the best I've seen them
this term (although I've only seen 4 matches). Our midfield was
excellent (except Hodge -who worked hard but never really got into it) with
(perhaps too much) lovely passing footy. Macca kept playing brilliant balls
to the wings, especially to Wallace and Kelly (who improves every game, is
bionic and will be a star). The most worrying thing was Deane, he didn't click
at all. He wasn't even getting headers. I hope he just needs a couple of
goals to help his confidence - or maybe we shouldn't use him just as an
ariel target man 'cos when he gets the ball on the deck he looks okay (if a
bit Chapmanesque).
Any way Sunderland came out pumped up and we hardly got a touch
before Goodmans strength made an opening from which he scored in the 6th
minute. It was good skill and strength that got him around the center-half
(Wetherall I think) and his near post shoy crept in via Beeny. Beeny and
Wetherall would have to share the blame, but there was no glaring mistakes.
After the goal, Leeds came back and Wallace hit the inside of the post after
a lovely through ball from Hodge (the only thing I remember him doing).
Then Wallace hit a good cross which Speed side footed the volley at very
slow pace into the net. I don't know if he meant to hit it so slow but who
cares?. The half continued with good end yo end play by both teams.
In the second half Leeds got stronger and once they got the ball were
passing it around well. We ahd a couple of chances - Wallace made a good run
but his finishing (always a bit suspect) let him down. And in a goal mouth
scramble Deane hit the post. (All this action was at the furthest end from
where Leeds fans were stood, so I couldn't see much. By the time the
highlights were on t.v I'd had a few beers and wasn't paying much attention!
Then with about 7 minutes to go, Goodmans speed got through the defence
again and Beeny could only parry his low shot for Gray (there was about 5 of
them on the pitch) to tap in. This causes a mini-pitch invasion, and a few
'supporters' were wearing Man. Utd Shirts and were spotted by the lads
'Scum', Scum'!
So, Leeds played better than average and Sunderland (looking at there league
form) played out of there skins. All in all, apart from the score, a good
cup-tie. I think we should beat them at H.Q, especially if Batts can get
the ball in Midfield, and Deane perks up. A draw would have been a fairer
result.
Up here in Durham, the Sunderland fans think its 1973 again (BTW 1973 was
mentioned hundreds of times in the programme). I hope we can wipe off the
smiles in a fortnight- then I can get my own back!
Rocky (and Sharp) were on the bench but didn't get a run.
Cheers,
Mark
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33.1412 | Leeds United mailing list | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Thu Sep 23 1993 12:58 | 68 |
| This was not my idea, though I wish it was, but Mark Smith in his report
alluded to a mailing list on Leeds United. I mailed him asking for
information and he returned to me the following:
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Yippee. So I sent a mail away immediately and got back
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33.1414 | Leeds win away again ! | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Mon Sep 27 1993 07:53 | 7 |
|
Coventry City 0 Leeds United 2
Wallace 2
What's happening ? Another away win ! Joint 3rd in the league.
Highfield is the only place Rod Wallace scores at these days.
|
33.1415 | Leeds get better and better. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Sep 27 1993 14:24 | 11 |
| re -1
I thought you were dead GIDDAY::PARSONS. Excellent away victory and thououghly
deserved according to the poeple who are on the LEEDS-UNITED mailing list who
were there. Great that Wallace scored, got him off the mark for the season with
much better things to come. Strachan and McAllister played stormers with the
back line very tight. Kelly and Fairclough came in for mentions in dispatches.
No sign of Rocastle yet, very unusual. He was described on the radio Saturday
as the Walter Mitty of million pound players. What an apt title.
James.
|
33.1416 | back from the dead | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Tue Sep 28 1993 06:21 | 8 |
|
> I thought you were dead GIDDAY::PARSONS
Not quite ;-) My notes in here are in direct proportion to Leeds
away wins :-)
I'll even get to see Leeds this season, hopefully, on 3rd Jan vs
Villa at Elland Rd.
|
33.1417 | Kerslake Gone!! | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Tue Sep 28 1993 16:07 | 5 |
33.1418 | Leeds are first on the ball again | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Sep 28 1993 20:01 | 5 |
| Notice how all the other clubs fans are scrambling to set up mailing lists. I
think LEEDS-UNITED are the first offically recognised football club electronic
mailing list :-). All the rest are mere imitations as they say ;-).
James.
|
33.1419 | | CLARID::STUART | | Tue Sep 28 1993 20:17 | 3 |
| What is this mailing list thing that's all the rage?
Gordon.
|
33.1420 | The Leeds United list contains... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Wed Sep 29 1993 13:00 | 16 |
| re -1
Gordon,
I receive, from the Leeds United list, about 20-30 mails a week. During the
week most of the material is comment from newspaper articles about the team.
At the weekend there is usually an opportunity for the people from the list,
going to the games, to try and get together for a few beers and a chat. Then
on Monday morning there is a discussion of the previous Saturdays game
together with usually two eye witness reports from people who were there.
For our non European bretheren there is usually someone near a computer on
Saturday evening around 17:00 GMT to input the match result. This is
incredibly useful for someone with no access to the results until Sundays
papers possibly.
James.
|
33.1421 | | CLARID::STUART | | Wed Sep 29 1993 14:17 | 5 |
| Thanks for the info James. Still, I'm left wondering who writes the 20 to 30
mails each week, and if it is a deccie (or deccies) why don't they just
write them in this conference?
Gordon.
|
33.1422 | Read note .1413 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Wed Sep 29 1993 17:26 | 8 |
| > Thanks for the info James. Still, I'm left wondering who writes the 20 to 30
> mails each week, and if it is a deccie (or deccies) why don't they just
> write them in this conference?
First line of note .1413 regarding the mailing list
>>> Genuine Leeds supporters all, I'm the first DECcie :-) :
|
33.1423 | The David Batty agony column is back! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Thu Sep 30 1993 12:16 | 53 |
33.1424 | | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | Even Better than the Real Thing | Thu Sep 30 1993 17:06 | 7 |
|
Re -1,
Very good reading indeed.
Martin C U N N O
|
33.1425 | The David Batty is back again - even better than before | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Thu Sep 30 1993 17:10 | 39 |
33.1426 | 5 in a row | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Mon Oct 04 1993 00:45 | 8 |
|
Leeds United 4 Wimbledon 0
McAllister 2
Speed 2
Another win. 2-0 up after 18 mins. Last 2 in the last 9 mins.
In between Vinny managed to miss a penalty. Very decent of him.
|
33.1427 | Majestic or not, Leeds | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Oct 04 1993 12:28 | 32 |
| Leeds 4 - 0 Wimbledon
Speed (2,90)
McAllister (18,81)
Some Sunday rags described our performance as majestic but others had it as
dour and uninspiring. How a 4-0 defeat of a team who came into the game
third could be uninspiring is completely beyond me, sore grapes probably.
Leeds thoroughly trounced the Wombles with two each from Speed and McAllister.
Vinnie Jones even chipped in, with a missed penalty when the score was 2-0.
I listened to 6 sports reports on Saturday and not one of them mentioned who
scored for Leeds. It was all about MUFC, you would think they had already
won the league the way the commentators were describing their display
Saturday. Such things as "building insurance up for the title", "Masterly
performance" were par for the course. One only has to look at who they
were playing - a team that has only won one of their first 9 games and now
have only 7 points from their first 10 games. Sheff. Wed. aren't exactly
world beaters. On the other hand Leeds handed out a whopping defeat on a
team who had only lost 1 of their first 9 and whose manager had just won
manager of the month for September. We showed him what we though of that,
didn't we;-). This is the winningest streak in Howards career with Leeds
which coincides with his 5th anniversary with the club (correct me if I'm
wrong). It doesn't feel like five years does it?
Five in a row and we're on our way. This team is really gelling together,
only one goal conceded in those five games too:-). That's five clean sheets
on 10 games. It just gets better and better.
James.
James.
|
33.1428 | I'd say Majestic!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon Oct 04 1993 13:38 | 19 |
| Saw the highlights on Match of the day and it certainly looked like the Leeds of
2 years ago. Oozing confidence, and playing for the full 90 minutes (Take note
Everton!!) They could have been 5/6 up at half time. The highlight for me, not
the 2 goals, which were great, but the move which started down the right, with
the right back overlapping, crossing for Speed to head down to Strachan, and his
shot unfortunately going straight at Segers. That would have easily have been
goal of the month. Also in the first minute Deane hit the post.
The second half was pretty much a repeat of the first, in reverse, with a minor
hiccup when the Wombles got a penalty. Segers kept the score down until
McAllister got his second, and then another goal of the month contender, from
Speed.
My MotM was definitely Speed, although the whole team were in superb form.
Up to 3rd. As I thought, last year they were just resting from the hard work
they put in whilst winning the league.
Al
|
33.1429 | Report from our former roving reporter JB... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Wed Oct 06 1993 12:32 | 150 |
33.1430 | current odds for CCC | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Wed Oct 06 1993 12:35 | 22 |
| Arsenal 11-2
Man Utd 13-2
Liverpool 8-1
Aston Villa 10-1
Blackburn 12-1
Tottenham 14-1
Newcastle 16-1
Sheff Wed 18-1
Everton 22-1
Leeds 22-1
Chelsea 25-1
Norwich 25-1
QPR 33-1
Wimbledon 33-1
Coventry 33-1
Man City 40-1
Derby 50-1
West Ham 50-1
Leeds only 22-1. That's not such a bad bet IMHO.
James.
|
33.1431 | Leed and Sunderland tonight | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Wed Oct 06 1993 16:27 | 12 |
| Seems like Batty broke his wrist in a freak accident with McAllister. Batty
was trying to punch away one of McAllisters shots before the Sheff. Utd. game
recently. That's why McAllister was so coy on the subject when asked how it
happened on Football Focus last Saturday.
Back to more mundane matters, Leeds have to overturn a 2-1 defecit to go
forward into the next round draw of the CCC. This assignments shouldn't
cause too many problems, I hope, and I would think if Leeds scored early
that they could score often. 7-0 wouldn't be out of the quiestion if
everything went well. Though I would settle for 3-0:-).
James.
|
33.1432 | result | BUSSTP::DREES | | Thu Oct 07 1993 00:39 | 9 |
|
re last....
<< 7-0 wouldn't be out of the question >>
Leeds 1 Sunderland 2
Del
|
33.1433 | a bit of craic.... | SIOG::A_KELLY | | Thu Oct 07 1993 13:19 | 12 |
33.1434 | 1973 ... 1993 ... 2013 ? :-( | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Fri Oct 08 1993 04:28 | 9 |
|
Oh well, we can concentrate on the league now ;-)
Why have Leeds got such a good home record in the league (2 defeats
in the last 51) and such a bad home record in cup games (out at home
in the FA Cup in 90, 91, 92, 93 and League Cup defeats at home in
91 and 93) ?
Don't worry Sunderland, we'll get you next time ... in 2013 !
|
33.1435 | No excuses - splat - egg all over face... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Fri Oct 08 1993 12:33 | 17 |
| We were beaten by a better team Wednesday night, as much as it hurts to say.
There are no excuses, no recriminations, no rationale to the defeat,
Sunderland were just the more hyped up team. I hope Leeds didn't go into
the game with the attitude that they would beats them "no sweat". I pray
Strachan wouldn't be out too long after being savagely cut down from behind
by Ball. Rocastle got his first run of the season and Whelan scored his
first goal. Newsome, from reports, laid on a brilliant back pass, that is
if you are a Sunderland supporter for the second goal. I hope he won't make
a habit of it. If he does he'll soon be back in the reserves.
As GIDDAY::PARSONS said our recent cup record makes very depressing reading for
some unknown (to me) reason. Can anyone throw any light on the subject?
I won't say the obvious, OK I will, we can *now* concentrate on the league
:-).
James.
|
33.1436 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Can't think of a decent personal name | Fri Oct 08 1993 13:03 | 9 |
| >I won't say the obvious, OK I will, we can *now* concentrate on the league
>:-).
Well at least until January when there's another one of these Mickey Mouse Cups
starting ( For the big boys at least ) :-)
However we should have the league in the bag by then :-) * 1000
Al
|
33.1437 | Strachan out!! | PEKING::JAMANIS | | Fri Oct 08 1993 19:51 | 7 |
|
Strachan will be out for a month due to damaging his knee ligaments.
This must surely be Rocastle's big chance to get a permanent 1st team
place.
Shafiq.
|
33.1438 | Wilko 7/2 Favourite for England job | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Thu Oct 14 1993 11:45 | 4 |
| Will he or won't he be tempted? I would be very disappointed if he did go for
that rotten cherry of a job.
James.
|
33.1439 | | PEKING::WILSOND1 | DAVE WILSON @WLC | Thu Oct 14 1993 12:13 | 9 |
| >> Will he or won't he be tempted? I would be very disappointed if he did
Not a disappointed as us, if he gets the job.
Howard Wilkinson...you must be joking, we may as well keep Taylor.
Dave...
|
33.1440 | Big game Sunday vs Ipswich | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Fri Oct 15 1993 13:27 | 12 |
| Ipswich away on Sunday and on the box too. This should provide a stern test for
the revitalised Leeds team who are going for their sixth league victory in a row.
Something I haven't experienced in the 15 years I have supported them. Come on
lads make it happen! Remember last year when Ipswich thoroughly trounced us 4-2
on their cabbage patch. It made ugly viewing if I remember correctly. The team
is much stronger this term though and I expect a better result. Any team news?
James.
P.S. For those of you who haven't joined the LUFC mailing list, you don't know
what you're missing. At least the people in there know what they are talking
about :*).
|
33.1441 | Ipswich 0 - 0 Leeds | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Oct 26 1993 12:57 | 15 |
| Leeds didn't do the business, though not from lack of trying, although overall
the performance was poor. I listened to the match on the radio and then the
last 10 minutes on the box. Leeds has a decent penalty opportunity turned
down in the first half with non-decisive refereeing after an Ipswich defender
handled. Wetherall had a good goal disallowed when Deane was forced offside.
His Ipswich marker ensured he stayed offside as he gave him a gentle push as
he was making his way back onside just before the ball landed in the net.
In both instances it was Linighan who was the offender. Ipswich had a few
chances but were, on the whole, handled adequately by the defence and Beeney.
Dorigo has a chance near the death to do A Koehman(sp ?) but hit the wall.
With United winning the gap unfortunately widens between us and the first
placed team.
James.
|
33.1442 | Leeds 3 - 3 Blackburn | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Oct 26 1993 12:59 | 85 |
| With permission, Tim Kennedy match report :
From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"tim.kennedy@bj.co.uk" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 25-OCT-1993
To: LEEDS-UNITED@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: Leeds Blackburn (incoherent) Match Report
I got to the Imperial at about half twelve and waited for Mark and
co, unfortunately I had told him I would be in a leather and, due
to the leather not being available that day I was wearing a lumber
jacket! So I skulked round the pub, had a burger and a pint and
after embarrasing myself by asking two likely candidates if they
were Mark, I shot off.
Anyway I had got a ticket for the West Stand in the top corner by
the Kop, which was a good view, apart from a large pillar which
was right in front of the south goal.
Leeds were better right from kickoff and we had two early chances,
Deane hitting a post and someone else being saved on the goal-line.
They were knocking the ball around very nicely and Blackburn looked
poor. However it began to be clear that despite our good possession
we were short on attacks. Deane seemed to be nowhere when the telling
crosses came in. Wallace was threatening and on that day he was
aggressive and I thought played pretty well overall but he was often
fouled by the Blackburn defence. The referee ignored a blatant handball
and several other offences and I was beginning to think it was not our
day.
We only got one corner in the entire first half. In the second half when
we went at them we forced plenty of corners but could make nothing
of them. I felt sure the team that won the second division title in 89-90 'd
have scored from two or three of the pretty decent corner kicks. Surely
Deane is well-practised at set piece play.
Anyway Shearer gets his first goal with the defence . From here
until half time Leeds played shite and it was very worrying. Rocastle
was the only player who was up by the halfway line when we broke
away, all too frequently and any long punt by the defence fell to the
feet of Blackburn players. Rocky actually played ok and showed
good skill but the team were missing the focal point - Batty. Speed
was anonymous.
The second half came and Shearer gets another goal. He is one of the
finest strikers so I suppose you can't totally blame the defence but
by this time I thought we were in for a beating. Leeds battled fiercely
with Whelan playing well up front, holding the ball and putting decent
balls in the box a lot (he came on for Rocky at half time) but when we
did get back in it it was Deano who was in the box and looking like
scoring who got hauled down and the ref points to the spot. Macca
converted this and the relief was tangible. It was at this point I think
Batty came on and it made a f- of a difference. He was at the root of
an outstanding attacking display.
However they got a free kick from one of their lot diving when noone
was anywhere near, and Leeds were still beginning to take position
when Newell I think takes the kick and Shearer picks it up and scores.
Noone knew what had happened cos noone expected a free kick in the
first place let alone expected them to take it like that. Are they allowed
to do that?
Anyway 3-1 down and I'm thinking, bastard, I come all this way and
we f-ing lose. The Blackburn were doing this moslem prayer arm-worship
thing going "Shearer-Shearer". Leeds get stuck in though and in the last
few minutes Newsome gets the goal to go 3-2, don't ask me what it was
the whole match was so exciting I forgot everything! Then McAllister
gets the equaliser after a team performance of fanatical determination.
Everyone was in there it was like the Stuttgart 4-1 game. The Kop
were all doing the moslem arm-worship thing chanting "Newsome-Newsome"
and even waving Newsome's picture in the Kop (he was this week's
pinup!) I would have been killing myself laughing if the team weren't
battling away so furiously for a winner and the whole place going mad.
It was brilliant to see the Blackburn end silenced like that. They were
lucky to get their point, especially as they never deserved the third goal.
Anyway I got so carried away that I can't remember the game in
detail so this report is crap, all I can remember is the Elland Road
wall of noise and the fury of the Leeds attack once Batty was on the pitch.
Well worth 14 quid I'd say, though next time I'll make sure it's a Kop
ticket I get. Oh yeah the Square Ball featured the article about us. It
was good to see a reference to me in a fanzine (however indirect).
Tim
|
33.1443 | Is it true? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Oct 26 1993 19:11 | 3 |
| Batty is gone to Blackburn for 2.75 million!
James.
|
33.1444 | | PEKING::WILSOND1 | DAVE WILSON @WLC | Tue Oct 26 1993 19:33 | 4 |
|
Yep...just heard it on the news.
Dave...
|
33.1445 | | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Come the glorious day | Tue Oct 26 1993 19:35 | 8 |
| Hyuk, hyuk, hyuk!
Kenny is mad after all.
I bet Souness is seething. If he loses Tim Flowers as well then it will be 2-0
to Kenny.
Mike
|
33.1446 | Another going | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Oct 26 1993 20:52 | 5 |
| Seems like another Leeds international going spanish before the end of the
week. Where the f*&& is it going to end. Turn off the light when you're
leaving!
James.
|
33.1447 | Not a good first impression ! | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Wed Oct 27 1993 13:03 | 16 |
33.1448 | Leeds RIP | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Wed Oct 27 1993 16:06 | 30 |
| Personally a bit over the top, I think, but then what do I know?
James.
From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"robinson@noodle.med.yale.edu" "MAIL-11 Daemon"
27-OCT-1993 10:08:45.35
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: RIP
In Memorium
-----------
We are sorry to announce the sad demise of Leeds United football club, who
died tragically yesterday in unforseen circumstances.
In an heroic act of bravery, Leeds donated a vital organ to another club
desperately in need of a new heart (Blackburn Rovers). Leeds felt they could
survive the transplant, but they were sadly misguided by thier advisors.
They had a turbulent career, reaching its peak in the early 70's, but this
for followed by almost 2 decades in the wilderness. Recently though a
resurection in thier career had taken place, which makes this loss all the
more devestating.
They will be sadly missed.
The funeral will take place on Saturday when Leeds will be buried by 11 men
in blue & white. If you cannot make this, don't worry, as it will be repeated
all over the country on a weekly basis.
|
33.1449 | Maybe Rocastle will get a Game | ESSB::BLONG | UNITED Premier League CHAMPIONS 1993 | Wed Oct 27 1993 16:12 | 4 |
33.1450 | ch ch ch changes, turn and face the change | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Wed Oct 27 1993 16:35 | 11 |
|
Re last
Brian , Frank Strandli the Norwegian international is next, he went
to Spain yesterday to seal a deal there i believe.
I think there will be a demo at Leeds at the next home game against
Chelsea a week on saturday
Paul..( a very Pis*ed off Leeds fan) :-( :-(
|
33.1451 | | PEKING::WILSOND1 | DAVE WILSON @WLC | Wed Oct 27 1993 17:42 | 8 |
|
>> Has Wilkinson any ba**s, why does'nt he stand up to the board.
Yeah...this is obviously the reason he is favourite to get the England
job...he's a "yes" man. Just what the FA require to complete the fall
of English Football.
Dave...
|
33.1452 | Please, No! Not wilko! | SHAWB1::STOCKMANS | | Wed Oct 27 1993 18:25 | 5 |
| I was just to say that myself Dave.
Looks a convienient time to move on to me.
Si
|
33.1453 | Rebuilding Time at Leeds... | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Thu Oct 28 1993 21:00 | 41 |
| Well, as a Leeds Supporter, I was very p*ssed off to see Batty go to
Blackburn. Can't blame Batty, he's doubled his wages and got a big fat
signing on fee.
>>> .1447 I wouldn't have thought Batty was worth #2M let alone #2.75M
Well you obviously weren't at Elland Road on Saturday ! Up until Batty
came on the midfield were directionless, and in-effective ( Leeds were
0-2 at the time ) Ironically Blackburn would have won the game if it
wasn't for Batty !
Apparently, Kenny has been bidding for Batty since the season began and
was just waiting for his injury to clear up. Batty will do well at
Blackburn, he's just the sort of player they need. And Leeds will miss
him badly. Perhaps Rocastle will get a run in the team. He wasn't very
good on Saturday and was taken off at half-time.
>>> .1449 Has Wilkinson any ba**s, why doesn't the stand up to the board.
Leeds need the money, and Wilkinson knows this. They probably owe money
on the new stand and will need more money in the summer when the rest
of the ground is to be made all-seater.
Wilkinson also wants/needs to strengthen the squad. Leeds STILL need a
central defender, and another forward. ( Wallace is not playing that
well either..... ) So perhaps he's been promised some dosh for players.
>>> .1450 Frank Strandi
He hope he goes. I saw him a couple of times. He looked out of his
depth but then again he was only young.
>>> .1451 Wilkinson favorite for the England Job.
I don't think you could call Wilkinson a "yes" man. He generally speaks
his mind. I hope he doesn't take it or even get offered the job,
because while he's done a good job at Leeds, it doesn't mean to say
he'll make a good England manager.
But then again, when was the last time an "English" Manager won
anything in England.........????
|
33.1454 | 3-3 again | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Nov 01 1993 16:56 | 6 |
|
How about a match report?
How did the midfield stand up?
SteveP
|
33.1455 | Leeds 3 A.N.Other3, Arsenal 0 Everyone 0 ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Tue Nov 02 1993 01:09 | 8 |
|
> How did the midfield stand up?
Don't know, but Rocastle got praised for the first time in a Leeds
strip. Perhaps he'll start playing now !
Wonder who'll break the record first ... Arsenal for consecutive
0-0 league draws or Leeds for consecutive 3-3 draws.
|
33.1456 | | YUPPY::PANES | Blimey' Caff, we've 'ad a wight wesult | Tue Nov 02 1993 11:31 | 12 |
| <<< Note 33.1455 by GIDDAY::PARSONS "Which Space Corps Directive ?" >>>
-< Leeds 3 A.N.Other3, Arsenal 0 Everyone 0 ? >-
> Wonder who'll break the record first ... Arsenal for consecutive
> 0-0 league draws or Leeds for consecutive 3-3 draws.
The smart money is on Leeds ( Leeds Leeds ).
Stuart
|
33.1457 | mailing-list report on Wednesday 3 Leeds 3 | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Nov 02 1993 17:06 | 44 |
| From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"stuart@vax.ox.ac.uk" "Stuart Lee" 1-NOV-1993
10:21:59.52
To: LEEDS-UNITED@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: Saturday
It was a hell of a match, one of the best I've seen in a long while (live that
is). Hillsborough is a great stadium to be in when it's almost full and you've
got a barnstorming derby to watch.
Wed went 1 up in the space of a couple of minutes. Waddle played a lovely
through ball to bright I think, who was then hacked down. Waddle then scored an
unstoppable free-kick. From then on Leeds showed some good attacking play but
thankfully Bright is a donkey who gets caught off-side alot or we'd have been
in trouble (Newsome and wetherall look dodgy to say the least). When we
equalised I thought we would begin to walk it but almost immediately (it
seemed) Wednesday were back in front.
Second half began with Leeds on full throttle. A through ball from Rocastle (I
think) caught Wednesday napping and Wallace raced through (although the ball
bobbled a bit) to slot home. The crowd around reckoned he was off-side (guess
where we had to sit) but I don't think he was. Rocastle continued to play
brilliantly and it was he who crossed the ball in for the third. We then began
to go to sleep a bit and wednesday came back to make it 3 all. The last 20
minutes or so were frantic but great to watch. It could have gone either way
but a draw really was the only fair result.
The "protest" over Batty was in the form of a few banners "The crown jewel's
gone, now get rid of the silver", "Silver - 100% Leeds or 100% greed?" and a
few chants of "Batty" (the Wednesday replied with "Where's your batty gone?").
But the team played well (apart from the dodgy defence). Rocky did what was
asked, but McAllister was incredible. He never stopped running, played some
great through balls, tackled hard, and kept the team going. I think the
commitment shown by the players kept the crowd happy and off the Batty subject.
Speed was a bit of a non event (although he did score a goal!) and Deane
lumbered about a bit, but was strong when he got the ball.
It was an encouraging performance showing we can come back when it counts
(unlike last year). A draw at Wednesday isn't a bad result but with MUFC
winning it may be academic.
Stu
|
33.1458 | Another home win | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Mon Nov 08 1993 00:57 | 9 |
|
Leeds United 4 Chelsea 1
Wallace 2
Deane
Rocastle !
Back up to 4th, one point behind Villa & Norwich. Good to see
the multi-million pound boys scoring.
|
33.1459 | As Stuart Hall said... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Nov 08 1993 12:16 | 10 |
| "Chelsea were like the village vicar caught in a New York revolving door"
All the ratings of the team were either 7,8, or 9's. Kelly was everyones man
of the match. Deano scored his first at Elland and Rocastle his first since
March. Rodney scoring two, rounding off an excellent afternoon for Leeds.
Pity about the debacle yesterday though :-(.
More later from the mailing list?!
James.
|
33.1460 | Rubbing it in | REDARO::WLC_IMPROV1 | | Fri Nov 26 1993 14:53 | 2 |
| Thanks for Eric Cantona,he's been at Man Utd a year tomorrow and what a
great year.Plenty more to come.
|
33.1461 | re -1 | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Fri Nov 26 1993 18:21 | 6 |
| Your're welcome!
*WE* like our players to keep their hands on what's theirs, not on things that
they can't have!
James.
|
33.1462 | French Flash and Sha**ing Lesly Ash | ESSB::BLONG | UNITED Premier League CHAMPIONS 1993 | Fri Nov 26 1993 18:50 | 7 |
33.1463 | | CODS::ESBECK | Day Tripper | Fri Nov 26 1993 19:39 | 5 |
| re -1
Ypu might'nt be laughing so much if it was your trouble and strife he
was porking...:-)
Declan
|
33.1464 | Oh Ah Cantona | ESSB::BLONG | UNITED Premier League CHAMPIONS 1993 | Sat Nov 27 1993 13:23 | 8 |
33.1465 | Leeds 3 - 2 Manchester City | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Wed Dec 08 1993 12:27 | 59 |
| Kevin Shapre got his first run of the season. There seems to be some good
'un of the way upto the first team. That's 13 unbeaten in a row. Our best
run in 15 years (I think). West Ham tonight and a tricky one at that. I see
the bookies have given up on anyone catching United. Oh ye of little faith.
We were given no chance before and we turned them over - the only difference
this time is that we have to come from further behind this time :-).
James.
A little report from Saturday:
Leeds 3 Manchester City 2
Brian Deane conjured up a Leeds winner with five minutes to spare after
crisis club Manchester City had staged a spirited fightback at Elland Road.
City, whose power struggle has dominated the season's headlines, continued
to struggle on the pitch where they conceded two goals in the first 22
minutes and have now gone nine Premiership games without a win. But until
Deane's late winner it seemed City were on their way to a precious point
after manager Brian Horton made an inspired interval substitution. He
replaced Fitzroy Simpson with former Shrewsbury striker Carl Griffiths who
created City's first goal for Mike Sheron in the 54th minute and then
scored his first Premier goal six minutes later after a suicidal back
headewr by Leeds defender Chris Fairclough. It was a huge shock for Leeds
whose class had stood out in a one sided first half. They hurried into an
11th minute lead when Gordon Strachan's free kick was turned into the path
of Rod Wallace by defender Alan Kernaghan, and Wallace duly collected his
eighth goal of the season. With City struggling to defend at set pieces,
Strachan again planted a free kick into the penalty area where David
Wetherall released Gary Speed whose left foot shot gave Tony Coton no
chance. Leeds should have gone on to pile up a big score but after Wallace
had seen a close-range shot blocked by Coton and Gary McAllister's lob was
cleared off the line by Kernaghan, the tide turned.
WILKO: NEVER MIND THE TITLE RACE
Leeds cut the gap on runaway leaders Manchester United to 12 points but
manager Howard Wilkinson refused to discuss the title race after his side's
3-2 home win over Manchester City. Brian Deane's winner with five minutes
left killed off City's brave fightback and left Leeds unbeaten in 13
Premiership matches, while Manchester United were held to a draw by
Norwich. But Wilkinson said: ``I am not interested in Manchester United and
gaining or losing points on them at this stage. It really doesn't concern
me.'' Wilkinson described his team's display as ``a Jekyll and Hyde
performance'', adding: ``You can't give away goals like that. I said at
half time that, if the players didn't make silly errors, the game was all
over. But we dropped our guard, lost concentration and suddenly it was
2-2.'' City boss Brian Horton said: ``I thought we did enough to deserve a
point on our second half display. ``We gave two stupid free kicks away in
the first half and didn't clear them at all. I had strong words about our
defending when we went in at half time.
Leeds: Beeney, Kelly, Dorigo, Sharp, Fairclough, Wetherall, Strachan, Rodney
Wallace (Raymond Wallace 89), Deane, McAllister, Speed. Subs Not Used: Whelan,
Lukic.
Man City: Coton, Phelan, McMahon, Vonk, Curle, Kernaghan (Ingebrigtsen 89),
White, Sheron, Simpson (Griffiths 46), Lomas, Mike. Subs Not Used: Dibble.
Att: 33,821
|
33.1466 | We ROZ Robbed | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Tue Dec 14 1993 14:10 | 21 |
| Norwich 2 Leeds 1
When Brian.....
I'm sick as a parrot, but Norwich must be over the moon. But at the end
of the day, you've got to fancy Norwich to win if the score stays at
2-1........
Seriously though, Leeds were robbed. The only good thing about the
match from a Leeds point of view is that they played well. Obviously Mr
Hayden didn't see the game from his comment in the Man Utd note.
Still luck has a habit of evening out over the season. A draw at West
Ham would have been a fairer result last week so you've got to take the
rough with the smooth.
Some interesting games for Leeds over Christmas. Arsenal, Newcastle,
QPR and Manchester United....
Brian
|
33.1467 | | ESSB::PHAYDEN | | Tue Dec 14 1993 14:34 | 9 |
|
You're right Brian, I didn't see the game.
Would have liked to though. Norwich are a good side and Leeds do seem
to be on a bit of a roll. My note was aimed at James (who I play
football with) and was meant as a dig at *his* excellent and well
balanced notes in the Man. U. topic, not a dig at Leeds.
Peter(An Impartial Celt)
|
33.1468 | Leeds 2 - 1 Arsenal | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Sun Dec 19 1993 17:07 | 63 |
| At last, a win against a team our supposed equal and it was in my opinion a
vitally needed win against a team who had previously only conceded 3 goals
(9 games) in the league away from home all season.
Leeds took the game to Arsenal from the start, and took a deserved lead
after 21 minutes. It was a supreme piece of individual skill from
McAllister who received the ball on the edge of the area after an abortive
corner. He touched the ball over the tackle of an oncoming Arsenal
defender and took it along for a few yards before Seaman committed himself
to come out against the onrushing midfielder. With this McAllister slipped
a beautiful right sidefooted shot off the post and into the goal. It was
so well taken that I thought for a dreadful second he had stroked it
too wide of Seaman. Leeds sat back for a while after scoring and allowed
Arsenal gain parity with a somewhat poor defensive passage of play which
culminated with Jensen heading onto Campbells head to leave Beeney stranded
on the goal line. Jensen received the ball from a poor defensive header,
which was the result of a Wright byline cross.
The second half was almost all Leeds with Arsenal getting not much more
than a look in. Leeds had the greater hunger to win as Arsenal seemed to
be a bit lethargic. No real clear cut chances were created by either team
though most of the positive work was done by Leeds. Both goalkeepers had
very little to do all the half except handle a few corners. The winning
goal, when it came, was from a freekick taken by McAllister with his left
foot. His looping left foot cross eluded everyone except Adams who I think
was trying to head it back to the keeper, but in doing so headed the ball
past his own keeper and into the net. The freekick was a result of Limpar
acting up as he is liable to do when he doesn't get things his own way :-).
Leeds kept going for the third goal but it didn't seem likely, though
Arsenal didn't seems likely to get an equaliser either.
Leeds have now moved to within 10 points of MUFC with a game more played.
Rocastle made a late appearance and laid on a fine pass down the right wing
for Wallace to run onto. Wallace looked sharp though possibly a but
selfish at times. Deane looks very uncomfortable in the position Wilko is
playing him in currently. He is full of the nods and the flicks but more
often than not they're not going anywhere. The Leeds defence reacted, on
the whole well to the dual threat of Wright and Campbell though, as always,
they seems to give the fans a fright every so often. The match was
televised live on Irish T.V. and I think it was the first time I've seen
them win on R.T.E! 37,515 were at the match which, considering it was the
last Saturday before Christmas, was a fabulous crowd.
The team from memory was:
Beeney
Dorigo Wetherall Newsome Kelly
Strachan(Rocastle) McAllister Fairclough Hodge
Wallace Deane
Strachan was buzzing around as usual, more so once he was moved from the
left wing to his more usual right wing position in the second half. Hodge
had another quiet game. Fairclough was also quiet. Kelly sparkled again
and I think Jack Charlton has found a new jewel to parade in the States
next year, (we need some as our more senior player are about to retire en
masse soon) although he was caught out once during the first half when
Arsenal nearly scored. Beeney made a few competent stops in the first half
and as I said had little to do during the second.
Now for MUFC to get scuttled tomorrow - then was odds Leeds for the
Premiership? Blackburn also won today to keep a point behind us.
James.
|
33.1469 | | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Dec 20 1993 14:04 | 7 |
|
Good Report.
MUFC won yesterday so we are still 13 behind. If we cna close that gap
over the hols it will still be possible to get to the top!!
SteveP
|
33.1470 | A vote of confidence in Wilko | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Dec 21 1993 12:35 | 23 |
| Over the past while there has been a bit of traffic in the Leeds
mailing list about whether Wilko is the best manager Leeds could have
at this moment in time, so like all democracies we had a vote (non
binding of course :). The result is that Wilko can stay on, if he
wants to of course!
Results of Wilko Poll:
Question was:
Should Wilko stay on as Manager?
Voted Yes : 21
Voted NO : 4
Some replacements (if Wilko left) suggested were:
Howard Kendall
Terry Venables
Jack Charlton
Egil Olsen (Coach of Norway Nat'l team)
Gordon Strachan
Gordon Strachan + D. O'Leary
|
33.1471 | More Support for Wilko | SUBURB::HAYWOODL | LEIGHTON HAYWOOD @REO | Tue Dec 21 1993 14:47 | 12 |
| You can't complain at Wilko's record to date.
Following promotion we have had 4th place, Winners, somewhere near the bottom,
and now pushing hard again. In the League there can't be too many with a
better record over the last few years.
Interesting to hear McAllister's comments in the press, he believes this team
is playing better than the championship team.
Newcastle tonight with a desperately needed win to keep in touch. Any news on
the team(s)?
|
33.1472 | Reserves at Leicester tonight! | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Tue Dec 21 1993 15:37 | 9 |
| > <<< Note 33.1471 by SUBURB::HAYWOODL "LEIGHTON HAYWOOD @REO" >>>
> -< More Support for Wilko >-
>Newcastle tonight with a desperately needed win to keep in touch. Any news on
>the team(s)?
No, it's tomorrow.
g
|
33.1473 | Rocastle goesto Machester | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Wed Dec 22 1993 16:42 | 9 |
|
Rocky has gone to Manchester (wait for it ) City in a straight swap
for David White ...no money involved Bet you Manc fans thought we'd
let you have another one then did'n't ya!!!
Paul
|
33.1474 | Three points from 3 games... | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Wed Jan 05 1994 20:53 | 50 |
| Leeds results over Christmas.....
Newcastle 1 Leeds 1
The Newcastle match was always a regular Boxing day match, but I think
Keegan and Wilkinson must have "done a deal.." to ease fixture
conjestion.
Still 1-1 seems to have been a fair result.
Leeds 1 QPR 1
I went to this one as I was at home over Christmas. Also this was the
biggest home crowd of the season, 39,106.
The game started well for Leeds with White making his debut for Leeds.
There were a couple of really good chances for Leeds in the first half
with a Newsome shot ( or was it a header ) hitting a post. Then Wallace
got injured and was taken off. Sharpe came on, and White went up front
in the place of Wallace. After this substution Leeds lost their way a
bit.
QPR started well in the second half and put Leeds under a bit of
pressure. QPR scored after a good run by Sinclair. ( But I can't
remember who scored - Jon Wood help ? ) This goal prompted Leeds into
action and Leeds put lots of pressure on the QPR goal. McCallister was
unlucky not to score from a free kick just outside the box. Hodge did
however equalise with a bit of a scrappy goal.
I was impressed with QPR, and they have some good players. Best players
for QPR were Bardsley, Peacock ( who kept Deane really quite ), Wilkins
and Sinclair.
For Leeds, Kelly, Newsome, McCalister. Fairclough ( who seems to switch
betweeen the Batty role in midfield and the central defender role )
Manchester Utd 0 Leeds 0
I was a bit dissappointed that Leeds didn't do some more positive
things in this game. Still a point at Old Trafford ain't bad.
Leeds v Villa - Match postponed
I think Wilkinson was happy that it was postponed. Without Speed, the
side lacks balance and without Wallace we lack pace up front. We need
these two back PDQ.
Fifth in the table after Newcastle won at Norwich last night.
Brian
|
33.1475 | Newcastle stand coming down - confirm Newcastle supporter(s)? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Thu Jan 06 1994 12:23 | 19 |
| re -1
Brian,
I was listening to the Newcastle match on the radio and they mentioned
something about some stand coming down after the Leeds game finishing.
The match was pushed back to facilitiate the work commencing and finishing
quicker.
I think Leeds lost 75K by having the match versus Villa postponed. That's
the money Sky would have paid to have the game televised. What you win on
one hand you lost on the other :-).
Also, Mark Beeneys wife is supposed to have coached hubby to dive to the
right side to save Beardsleys penalty. It seems she watched some of his
previous attempts and postulated that he would kick the penalty to the ?
side. Wife told Beeney, and the rest is history :-).
James.
|
33.1476 | Leeds player stats for season to date | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Thu Jan 06 1994 12:55 | 30 |
| Via Carl Erik of the Leeds mailing list:
Players so far this season, 24 league games and 2 cc-cup:
Leeds United players 93/94 after 26 matches
No Name App Full Start Sub Goals
3 Tony Dorigo 26 26 0 0 0
9 Brian Deane 26 26 0 0 6
10 Gary McAllister 26 26 0 0 6
22 Gary Kelly 26 26 0 0 0
5 Chris Fairclough 24 24 0 0 2
8 Rod Wallace 23 14 6 3 10
13 Mark Beeney 21 21 0 0 0
11 Gary Speed 21 20 1 0 8
7 Gordon Strachan 19 15 4 0 3
18 David Wetherall 18 16 2 0 0
16 Jon Newsome 17 15 0 2 1
25 Noel Whelan 12 3 3 6 1
4 David Batty 9 8 0 1 0
15 David Rocastle 8 1 5 2 1
14 Steve Hodge 7 6 0 1 1
12 John Pemberton 6 4 1 1 0
1 John Lukic 5 5 0 0 0
20 Kevin Sharp 5 1 2 2 0
17 Frank Strandli 5 0 0 5 0
6 David O'Leary 3 2 1 0 0
4 David White 2 2 0 0 0
19 Ray Wallace 1 0 0 1 0
26 Jamie Forrester 1 0 0 1 0
|
33.1477 | St James' Stadium | SIOG::A_KELLY | | Thu Jan 06 1994 13:00 | 8 |
| re - .1475
What is happening is the the last remaining 'old' side of St James'
Park, the Gallowgate end, is being closed to build a covered all-seater
stand. This will mean that the stadium will be completely enclosed and
will be ready for the '96 European Championships.
Cheers......Ned
|
33.1478 | | ARNIES::SMITHP1 | Radio Gnome Invisible | Fri Jan 07 1994 19:28 | 8 |
| > re: Note 33.1474 by COMICS::LINDLEY
>
> ..QPR scored after a good run by Sinclair. ( But I can't
> remember who scored - Jon Wood help ? )
In John's absence, I'd just like to say it was Michael Meaker.
p1
|
33.1479 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | | Thu Jan 13 1994 12:09 | 5 |
| Has anyone got any team news about Saturdays Match... will Wallace or
Speed be back?
Rick....
|
33.1480 | Not quite! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Fri Jan 14 1994 12:18 | 9 |
| Rick,
Looks not, since as far as I know, neither Wallace, Speed, or for that
matter O'Leary are back in full training yet. We have able
replacements in place as we speak => Newsome, Sharp, and Forrester (a
great prospect). All you have to do is witness the two goals he got
against Crewe to realise that he's a boy for the future!
James.
|
33.1481 | What a wonderful Leeds Calendar! ;-) | MARVIN::MORRELL | | Fri Jan 14 1994 12:25 | 8 |
| Any chance of you putting the match report in here?
I've just moved from Leeds to Reading and there's nothing in the
Southern papers about Leeds... don't know why.. they beat the socks
off many of the Southern teams! ;-)
Rick.
|
33.1482 | Who plays for Leeds these days ? | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Fri Jan 21 1994 16:58 | 19 |
| Any Leeds fans care to speculate on the team you will be putting out on
Sunday, its a big game for both teams and Leeds seem to have been
mixing it up a bit recently:
This is probably the team you will facing,
Flowers
Berg May Hendry LeSaux
Sherwood Batty
Ripley Shearer Gallacher Wilcox
Cheers,
Andy
|
33.1483 | Battyburn 0 Leeds 1 | WELCLU::CADD | L.U.F.C. League Champions 1991/92 | Fri Jan 21 1994 19:39 | 25 |
|
Andy,
We have had Wallace (hamstring ) and Speed (Knee ligaments)
out for a while, speed played last week for 20 mins and Wallace should
be back for sunday. I suspect Wilko will tag Shearer with a man marker,
probably Fairclough and the team should look like this :-
Beeney
Kelly Wetherall Newsome Dorigo
Fairclough
Strachan McAllister Speed
Wallace Deane
If Wallace isn't fit then Forrester will play up front with Deane.
I won,t be going as Battyburn only gave a couple of tickets!!!
Paul
|
33.1484 | 2-1 to Blackburn | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Jan 24 1994 12:25 | 15 |
|
I caught the second half on the radio.
Blackburn had 70% of the posession and went in 1-0 up at half-time
thanks to Mr Shearer. Second half Leeds were more positive getting 50%
of the game and having a couple of good long range shots to test
Flowers. Leeds started more constant pressure in the last fifteen
minutes and Speed Scores a great equalizer, with Leeds continuing the
pressure it looks like leeds could win the game against the run of play
and blow me if shearer don't go and score another on 90 minutes. Leeds
had one more chance in extra time but never got it in the net and it
ended 2-1 in blackburns favour. Still a few good results and we may
still get into Europe.
SteveP
|
33.1485 | | CHEFS::HARRISR | Goosenargh! | Mon Jan 24 1994 12:31 | 10 |
| After the behavior of some of the 'fans' I don't think I would like to
see Leeds in Europe. They'd probably go around singing there's only one
Winston Churchill in Germany, one Lord Nelson in France, and anything
else they could dream up to offend. I feel sorry for the majority of
fans who behave themselves, but the type of people who chant the way
they did in the one minutes silence seem like the type of 'fan' who
don't travel too well, and usually end up in a cell.
Rich.
|
33.1486 | A sad day for Leeds | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Mon Jan 24 1994 12:51 | 19 |
| RE: 1484
SteveP,
I was at the game and thought many of your followers (not fans) let you
down. I'm not making any generalist comments because I was close enough
to see a number Leeds fans were clearly unhappy about what happened.
As far as your team are concerned I would forget about Europe this year,
you need about 3 more decent players.
Still, I would be very pleased if you could raise your game about 3
notches and hold MANU to a draw when they visit Elland Road.
Cheers,
Andy
|
33.1487 | Be biased along the line at least? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Jan 24 1994 15:09 | 12 |
| re .1485
So you've been fooled by the hype too? How much do you know about Leeds and
their fans and the effort they've gone to over the past 5/10 years to get rid
of the rough element. As I've already said let those without sin cast the
first slur. So, as I've said previously in the MUFC note, I hope you take the
same line with the Liverpool, Man City and Arse fans who did the same thing on
Saturday. If you are going to be biased at least be biased along the line
rather than pick on the easy targets. Remember, MUFC haven't got the most
exemplary fans either, witness the Intanbul 6, or whatever they were called.
James.
|
33.1488 | There's only one Don Revie | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Jan 24 1994 15:11 | 5 |
| Certainly racist stuff I'd have to say. Let's cart them off to prison
and throw away the key. Poor Matt must be turning in his grave at the
moment :-).
James.
|
33.1489 | | UNTADE::PCAS | Yorkie | Mon Jan 24 1994 15:28 | 5 |
| Shirley, it doesn't matter what OTHER fans were or weren't doing, the
fact that Leed fans did it is cause for disgrace. I'd feel disgraced if
it were Sheff. Wednesday fans chanting during the minutes silence.
Al.
|
33.1490 | | ESSB::BLONG | UNITED Premier League CHAMPIONS 1993 | Mon Jan 24 1994 16:24 | 3 |
33.1491 | I'm missing all the good stuff... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Mon Jan 24 1994 18:09 | 7 |
| re -1
I'm missing all the good bits. Could whoever wrote the last note
please forward it onto me so I can chuck it in the shredder when I go
home tonight.
James.
|
33.1492 | | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Mon Jan 24 1994 20:00 | 32 |
| As a Leeds fan, I too am extremely p*ssed off with regard to the
behavior of our so called fans during the one minute silence for Sir
Matt. Leeds as a club have spent an incredible ammount of time and
effort in trying to get rid of these morons. I would have thought the
match was all ticket and therefore all these morans are traceable. If
Blackburn have closed circuit tv for crowd control, then these fans
will be even easier to find. Then just cancel their season
ticket/membership at least the rest of the season, hopefully life.
From the Sky coverage, you could see some of the Leeds players were
noticeably furious with the chanting of the Morons. I'm sure they know
only to well how much effort has gone in to fixing the problem, and to
see and hear this must be most dissappointing. Howard Wilkinson was
interviewed after the match, and he was speachless, and visibly upset,
when questioned on the matter.
On to the match..... Well there was only one team in it in the first
half, and Leeds were lucky that they were only 1-0 down at half time.
Leeds couldn't have complained if it was 2-0 or 3-0 by half time. It
probably would have been if the chances had fallen to Shearer and not
Gallagher. As the Blackburn note says, Blackburn had total control in
the midfield, and seemed to be a lot more keen and quicker to the ball.
The second half was a lot more even, and Gary Speed equalised with a
good shot. At this stage, Leeds looked like they might snatch it, but
up pops that man Shearer again. Ah, well, a win for Blackburn was a
fair result. At least it keeps the title chase going for a while
longer.
RE: .prev >>> Leeds are 3 players short.....
What only three players...!!!!!
|
33.1493 | Two wrong's don't make a right... | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Tue Jan 25 1994 12:19 | 19 |
| I forgot to mention a couple of other points in my last reply.
There was reason for the chanting of "There's only one Don Revie"
during the minutes silence before the game on Sunday, by the morons.
When Don Revie passed away, Manchester Utd were playing Leeds shortly
afterwards and there was also a minutes silence before the game. The
minutes silence was broken by the Manchester Utd fans chanting "Where's
your Revie gone ?" Sunday's episode was obviously planned as "revenge"
for this. I know, it's no excuse, but thats the way these "fans" think.
Lesley Silver has said these fans can't/won't be punished. i.e Ban
them. He did make an apology to both Manchester Utd, and Sir Matts
family for the whole episode.
Another sad note is that Mel Sterland has had to quit the game due to
his injury.
Brian
|
33.1494 | | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Frank's Fantastic Shed Show | Tue Jan 25 1994 12:24 | 5 |
| Swindon have banned a fan that disrupted the silence, so why can't Leeds? The
Leeds chairman said it would be too difficult to police, but I can't for the
life of me see why.
Mike
|
33.1495 | Its a storm in a tea cup.... | MARVIN::MORRELL | | Tue Jan 25 1994 12:27 | 4 |
| Well its says in the Daily Express that Silver will support the banning
of any supporters but he says that it might be hard to inforce it..
Rick.
|
33.1496 | Kick em out - There's no place for them | PIECES::63585::SWIFFEN | | Tue Jan 25 1994 12:40 | 10 |
| Surely to get away tickets for Blackburn you need
to be a season ticket holder. It must be easy to
identify them from yesterday's papers, video etc,
take the season tickets off 'em. Leeds can do that
it is in their rights!
It's a bit of a cop out if they let them get away
with it.
Chris.
|
33.1497 | Bye Mel | UPROAR::LEMP | Live slow, die young | Tue Jan 25 1994 14:04 | 13 |
| re .1493
>Another sad note is that Mel Sterland has had to quit the game due to
>his injury.
Yes, sad to see Zico go. He was always a favourite at Hillsborough. I
was always amazed that he never played more for England. Will there be
a testimonial for him (Rangers or Wednesday would be good).
Paul.
|
33.1498 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | betty swollocks | Tue Jan 25 1994 14:58 | 8 |
|
I see that Martin Edwards has tried to defuse the situation by saying
that Leeds were a "lovely club" and he understood the fact that it was
an ignorant minority. All together now, aaaaahhhhhhhhhh.
Tony
|
33.1499 | life ban | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Wed Jan 26 1994 11:59 | 7 |
|
Leeds have said tha all those who can be identified as having chanted
during the one minutes silence will face life bans home and away.
Leeds will also make a donation to any charity chosen by Sir Matt's
family.
SteveP
|
33.1500 | .1500 | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Wed Jan 26 1994 12:42 | 7 |
|
With all the publicity there's been over this.. they'll probably find
they've encouraged more people to join in!!
They'll never learn!
rick
|
33.1501 | | PEKING::COSSEYN | Dry those eyes Hastings.... | Mon Feb 07 1994 11:52 | 6 |
|
Watched the game on Sky yesterday two avarage sides with crap forward
lines..Deane is quite frankly awful Leeds should have kept Chapman and
saved 2.5 mill...Not a very good game for the neutral....
Neil...
|
33.1502 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Mon Feb 07 1994 12:47 | 5 |
| I think its about time Deane was dropped & we played Fat Frank... I
wasn't too impresses by Noel Whelan.. he looked a bit out of his
depth.... A boring game to say the least!
Rick.
|
33.1503 | Result, anyone?? | UPROAR::LEMP | Live slow, die young | Mon Feb 07 1994 12:56 | 1 |
|
|
33.1504 | I left my armchair early, but ... | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Mon Feb 07 1994 13:03 | 8 |
| Paul,
As far as I know it was 1-0 to Villa. Andy Townsend got the goal after
about 65 minutes. I missed the last five minutes, but I don't think the
score changed. As the previous replies said, it wasn't very stimulating
stuff !
Jerry.
|
33.1505 | Villa win | PIECES::63585::SWIFFEN | | Mon Feb 07 1994 13:07 | 3 |
| Yep final score 1-0 to Villa
Chris.
|
33.1506 | We lost again on Sky.. | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Mon Feb 07 1994 20:58 | 22 |
| A very disappointing Leeds performance at the Villa, to say the least.
Let's face it, we were cr*p. We can forget europe. The likes of Man.
Utd., Blackburn and Newcastle are streets ahead of us. So what to
do......
Well, what I'd like to see happen is move Fairclough into the holding
midfield role and play either Wetherall or O'Leary at the centre of
defence with Newsome. This releases McAllister to move further upfield.
We need to buy another forward quickly. Forrester and Whelan are too
young and not experienced, Fat Frank - forget it, he's got no pace and
again looks lost. Deane still hasn't settled, but he'll come good. He
lays a lot of balls of for Wallace, and it is him who has befitted from
Deane's presence. We have no cover for Wallace.
Personally, I'd make a bid for Alan Smith at Arsenal, ( that's where we
get most of our player from anyway....!! ) and play him as an out and
out centre forward. Does he get a game at Arsenal very often ???
Oxford on Wednesday night. God help us....
Brian
|
33.1507 | WHY? | BAHTAT::WILSONA | | Tue Feb 08 1994 13:31 | 10 |
| Lets face it Leeds are getting worse. Recent performances have been getting nearly as
bad as last season. Why the hell we play Strachan anymore is beyond me, in the last few
games on SKY and against Oxford he hasnt done anything at all. His corners have been poor
he hasnt even laided on any decent passes. Perhaps a couple of years ago he was good but
surly now hes passed his best. We have no cover for him apart from Hodge and hes just as
bad. Come back Rocastle all is forgiven!
Finally does anyone know if Wallace will play against Oxford?
Rob
on Work experience
|
33.1508 | out | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Feb 10 1994 11:54 | 20 |
|
Leeds 2 Oxford 3 (after extra time)
Can anyone post a match report??
All I know from R5 is that Oxford were leading 2-0 (again) with less
than five minutes to go in normal time when Strachan scores and then
David White pokes in the equaliser in injury time...
In the second period of extra time Kelly (now always refered to by R5
as "Young Gary Kelly possibly the find of the season"!!) was caught
day-dreaming and Oxford got the winner..
What team will we field on Saturday as I heard that the two
strikers who started the match, Dean + Strandli(sp?) were taken off for
being usless!! Did they come off at the same time?
Woe Woe and Thrice WOE!!
SteveP
|
33.1509 | Always look on the bright side......... | ESSB::BREE | | Thu Feb 10 1994 12:27 | 9 |
| The Leeds supporters must be really "gutted" after seeing their team
come back twice from 2 goals down and still lose the tie.
Still, they're such a cheery, sporting bunch I'm sure they'll bounce
back!!!
Paul
:-) :-)
|
33.1510 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Thu Feb 10 1994 12:31 | 5 |
| <Selected Comments which I won't write cos they'll only be moderated!!>
:-)))))
Rick.
|
33.1511 | Swallows come in twos and threes | PIECES::63597::oneills | Place holder for NOTES | Fri Feb 11 1994 12:53 | 10 |
| Paul,
Nice to see you have recovered from over 25 years of "guttings".
To coin the ManU adage of the 70s and 80s, there's always
next year!
Come on The Dons.
Shane
|
33.1512 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Mon Feb 21 1994 12:15 | 9 |
| Well a good result.. 2-0.... Unfortunately I couldn't get a ticket...
trust me to go home when they have one of the largest gates of the
season.... :-(
Puts us right back in there.. and a place in europe could be
available since it looks like ManU are going to win everything... lets
hope we can keep up the winning ways.. :-)
rick
|
33.1513 | who put that post there | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Tue Feb 22 1994 00:14 | 22 |
|
Rick,
You should have let me know i had a spare season ticket from
another Deccie who's wife was busy giving birth. I may have a spare some
time in the future as the other season ticket holder i go with is going on
holiday soon let me know if you are interested. We normally meet in the
Adelphi near the railway. The capacity at Elland road this season is
43,000 (40,000 when the kop is seated) it did look full but not
capacity , first time since 1979 that th gate has been over 40k.
Nice to see Gordan Strachan taking a corner and kicking the post
instead :-))). when he took a corner down the kop end he wiggled the
post to check it and nearly got booked for timewasteing.
O'Leary had a great game very solid at the back, i wonder if Wilko put
Lukic in because Lukic and O'Leary played at Arsenal for years and know
each others strengths/weaknesses??.
Paul
|
33.1514 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Tue Feb 22 1994 12:00 | 7 |
| They said the capacity was 41,500 and the attendance was ~40,300..
Good attendance anyway.. I'll probably go & see the Spurs match... :-)
Do you know when it is???
Rick
|
33.1515 | | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Feb 22 1994 17:30 | 6 |
|
Unless the Spurs match has been changed for TV it will be 16th April.
Rgds
Steve
|
33.1516 | Last night | IRNBRU::HOWARD | | Tue Mar 01 1994 11:45 | 2 |
| Oldham 1- 1 Leeds
(Beckford) (McAllister)
|
33.1517 | Tony Cottee for Gary Speed! | SUBURB::PRATTJ | You're joking - Jason what? | Tue Mar 08 1994 16:50 | 9 |
|
In the Guardian today, it said that Howard Wilkinson had approached
Everton for Tony Cottee, but Mike Walker wanted to swap him for
Gary Speed.
Howard Wilkinson must have thought he was taking the P*SS! As the not
interested reply was given. Thank god for that! An over the hill
forward for one of the best Midfielders in the country, can't be a
great deal in anyones book. (Well maybe Graeme Sounesses!)
|
33.1518 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Tue Mar 08 1994 17:23 | 7 |
| Well it said on Sky text that Gary Mac was approached by a German
club... but again Wilko said he had rejected the offer..
He said that the current team was better than the side that won the
championship... but it just hadn't quite jelled yet.. :-)
Rick.
|
33.1519 | | NEWOA::FIDO_T | Conation is the key | Tue Mar 08 1994 17:29 | 4 |
| > He said that the current team was better than the side that won the
> championship... but it just hadn't quite jelled yet.. :-)
What ? with Brian Deane in it !
|
33.1520 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Tue Mar 08 1994 17:35 | 8 |
| Well.. actually I think he was excluding Brian..... I think he's one
his way to another club... maybe Sheffield Wed... but I think he's on
his way out....
They've just got a new German U21 internation who I think he'll try
to bring into the side... I think Brian's going into the reserves.. :-)
Rick.,
|
33.1521 | My prediction for the match of the season! :-> | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Tue Mar 15 1994 20:23 | 7 |
| Leeds vs ManU....
Leeds 3 ManU 2
Speed, Wallace, Strachan Giggs, Cantona
Rick.
|
33.1522 | Come on you Red Devils..... | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Thu Mar 24 1994 16:25 | 29 |
| I was trying to work out what the lowest position in the league you
could finish and still qualify for Europe. I reckon Leeds have a good
chance of finishing fifth or above, thats if they wake up and realise
it not the summer holidays yet - Like they have been playing recently !
So I'll stick my neck out and predict the following..... ( Are we
having end of season predications....??? )
Premiership Blackburn Rovers European Cup
Runners up Man Utd
FA Cup Man Utd Cup winners cup
Coke Cup Man Utd
3rd in League Newcastle EUFA Place
Cup Winners Cup Arsenal Cup Winners Cup
4th in League Arsenal
5th in League Leeds EUFA Place
Of course all the above will probably happen except Leeds finishing
fifth.........
Question.
If Man Utd win the double, League plus FA Cup, who goes into the Cup
Winners Cup ? I've got a feeling it's the Cup runners-up, unlike the
coke cup last year.
So, I'm afraid say, I'll be cheering for Man Utd on Sunday.
Brian
|
33.1523 | Sticking mine out ... | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Thu Mar 24 1994 16:55 | 18 |
|
Another end of season prediction for you :
I understand if the mods want to move this, because its got very little
to do with Leeds ;-)
Pts
1 Blackburn Rovers 89
2 Man. Utd. 87
3 Arsenal 79
Cheers,
Andy
|
33.1524 | | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Thu Mar 24 1994 17:07 | 6 |
| If Manu win the League and FA Cup, then the Cup Finalists go into the CWC.
" " " " " " League Cup, then there is an extra UEFA Cup place
for the Premiership - so even Leeds could make it!
g
|
33.1525 | How about an end of season prdiction note ? | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Thu Mar 24 1994 18:00 | 16 |
| Yep, you're right Andy. I doesn't really have a lot to do with Leeds
except they play Man U.
I think an end of season prediction note is in order. ( please Mr Mod )
I mean we have the coke cup final on Sunday, we know who's in the FA
Cup semis plus Easter is usually the time when the men get sorted out
from the boys. I also see we have a prediction in the Blackburn note.
So how about it ?
1. Predict first five in the league.
2. Coke cup winners. ( Aston Villa fans, thats you or Man Utd ! )
3. FA Cup Winners.
4. Who'll qualify for europe.
Brian
|
33.1526 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | Gary Waite, The Shameful Truth | Thu Mar 31 1994 17:26 | 13 |
|
Where have all those Leeds fans gone from 91/92?? The notes were fairly
flying in then.
Sometimes I see them walk past in the office, solemn, dejected, without
purpose even.
This time then there would've feverish excitement over a live match
against Blackburn.
Tony
|
33.1527 | alive and kicking | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Apr 04 1994 14:07 | 8 |
|
Some of us are still about, mostly read only. I think that some
electronic mailing list file is killing the Leeds note.
Got a point from Newcastle in the last minute, high hopes of stuffing
the Mancs and finnishing 4th this year.
Steve (it's not a holiday in Sweaty)P
|
33.1528 | yes | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Apr 05 1994 13:36 | 13 |
|
QPR 0 - Leeds 4
Deane
Wallace
White x2
A good win away from home now within 4 points of the Arse. The
result may be due to a lack of form from the QPR defence who the
paper(Independent) say tackeling is against their relegion and who
later do a impression of the parting of the red sea (4th goal
Mcallister puts White through for his second).
SteveP
|
33.1529 | Why bother... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | @GAO 822-4715 Apathy is the most terrible vice! | Tue Apr 05 1994 18:58 | 7 |
| re .1526
Why write for two/three people when I can type away happily in the knowledge
that 150 poeple will read me :-).
James.
|
33.1530 | he's in my fantasy League team y'see... | FILTON::KEARNS_R | | Wed Apr 06 1994 19:15 | 3 |
| Anyone ant ideas why the wee Scot didn't play against QPR???
RK.
|
33.1531 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Thu Apr 07 1994 19:47 | 5 |
| The wee scot didn't play because he had an leg injury! :-<
Anyone know when Leeds play Everton??
Rick.
|
33.1532 | | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Tue Apr 12 1994 12:35 | 4 |
|
My list has Leeds v Everton on the 30th April.
SteveP
|
33.1533 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Tue Apr 12 1994 13:05 | 6 |
| Yep.. I've just sent off for my ticket today... they go on sale from
tomorrow if anyone is interested.. :->
The ticket line no. is (0532) 710710.
Rick.
|
33.1534 | The real date is.... | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Thu Apr 14 1994 23:32 | 5 |
|
The game is on 27th 7.45 k.o.
Paul..
|
33.1535 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Fri Apr 15 1994 13:05 | 3 |
| Just got my Everton ticket for the Kop.. andone else from DEC going??
Rick.
|
33.1536 | | UPROAR::HAIGHA | | Fri Apr 15 1994 13:40 | 7 |
| No, but where were you last night ??.
AndyH
ps.I kept Daniel up until atleast 7pm so that he could laugh at you, in
the end he went to sleep on my lap.
|
33.1537 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Fri Apr 15 1994 15:51 | 4 |
| I got home late.. & couldn't be bothered coming round.. I'll drop them
off this weekend.. probably after Leeds have beaten Tottenham! :->
Rick.
|
33.1538 | EVERTON 30th April 1994 | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Fri Apr 15 1994 19:41 | 21 |
|
Rick,
I will be going up .
Gavin and myself were discussing a couple of months ago about
staying up there after the game and making a night of it with all the
other listserve members that were going. That idea seems to have
caught on and a few are now going to do the same thing...
I'll mail Gav offline and mail you with any details direct..
Paul..
p.s. I wish the Manc game was the last...... :-))))
|
33.1539 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Mon Apr 18 1994 12:24 | 11 |
|
Leeds 2 - Totteringham 0
Well what a goal by Wallace.... just where was the Tottenham
defence.. I think they'd gone for a pint of Tetley's.. :->>>>
Tottenham were never in the game... & when they did have a shot it
was hopelessly wide... not good odds for them staying up...!
Rick.
|
33.1540 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | Aye Karumba | Mon Apr 18 1994 17:53 | 8 |
|
I'd say that's a very live contender for goal of the season.
Magic Ralph.
Tony
|
33.1541 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Mon Apr 25 1994 14:42 | 5 |
| Well if Leeds win on Wednesday then I'll look like this...
:->
Rick.
|
33.1542 | And from Sky's reverse angled camera.. :-> | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Mon Apr 25 1994 14:43 | 3 |
| <-:
.kciR
|
33.1543 | If Leeds win, Jon will eat my hat !;-) | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Mon Apr 25 1994 14:49 | 5 |
| Rick,
How will you look after you get stuffed ?
Jerry.
|
33.1544 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Mon Apr 25 1994 15:30 | 4 |
|
Hey I won't care.... :->
Rick.
|
33.1545 | | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Mon Apr 25 1994 18:43 | 1 |
| A true supporter ;-)
|
33.1546 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Tue Apr 26 1994 13:49 | 5 |
| The D. Express say Eric Cantona is going to have a personal bodyguard
for the game tomorrow at Elland Road... I hear his name is Chris
Fairclough! ;->
Rick.
|
33.1547 | Is it Chris or Len. | PAKORA::JCRONIN | | Wed Apr 27 1994 03:25 | 3 |
| Are you sure, I thought it was Len Fairclough.
|
33.1548 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Wed Apr 27 1994 12:49 | 3 |
| I think they are one and the same!!!! ;->
Rick.
|
33.1549 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Thu Apr 28 1994 12:25 | 12 |
| Mmmmmmm....
Leeds didn't play that well... but on the other hand Manc were never as
good as Mr. Green on Radio 5 Dead would have you believe.... it seemed
a bit of a dull affair after the first 20 minutes...
:-\
Oh well... looks like ManU have got the championship, unless someone
else can do the business this weekend... :->
Rick.
|
33.1550 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Tue May 03 1994 13:03 | 9 |
| Well guys... in this months "The Square Ball" ( a Leeds United Fanzine
) it exclusively reveals why Eric Cantona had to leave Leeds...
I can exclusively reveal that it has something to do with underwear &
a certain ex-Leeds United Footballers wife! ;->
If any one wants a copy of the page drop me a line...
Rick.
|
33.1551 | | BERN01::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon | Tue May 03 1994 13:06 | 4 |
|
Could we have a copy please.
Jon & Jerry.
|
33.1552 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Tue May 03 1994 13:07 | 3 |
| Mail me your address & I'll send you a copy.. :->
Rick.
|
33.1553 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Zulu's....fousands of `em | Tue May 03 1994 13:30 | 1 |
| I'd love a copy....I'll drop you a line shortly
|
33.1554 | PLAYERS PLEASE!!!!! | PLUNDR::WADDLE | | Wed May 04 1994 13:09 | 2 |
|
Who played for Leeds last night ?
|
33.1555 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Wed May 04 1994 13:16 | 6 |
| I think the team consisted of a series of old age pensioners from one
of the Leeds council homes! ;->
I'll post them later! :->
Rick.
|
33.1556 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Mon May 23 1994 21:27 | 5 |
| I hear Rod Wallace won Goal of the Season for his strike against
Tottenham!!!! :->>>>>
Rick.
|
33.1557 | wrong, wrong, wrong.... | IRNBRU::HOWARD | NYC,June 18 - ITA 0 - 2 RoI | Tue May 24 1994 13:22 | 9 |
| Note 33.1556
>> I hear Rod Wallace won Goal of the Season for his strike against
>> Tottenham!!!! :->>>>>
I would have given it to Cantona for the volley against Wimbledon,
with Wallace second and Le Tissier third....
Ray....
|
33.1558 | Justice seen to be done | YUPPY::PANES | Bert Vert - A van for all seasons | Tue May 24 1994 13:26 | 12 |
| <<< Note 33.1557 by IRNBRU::HOWARD "NYC,June 18 - ITA 0 - 2 RoI" >>>
-< wrong, wrong, wrong.... >-
> I would have given it to Cantona for the volley against Wimbledon,
> with Wallace second and Le Tissier third....
It was a nice strike by the Frenchman, but we all saw a couple of "reds"
offside when he hit it.
Stuart
|
33.1559 | Great goals... | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | | Tue May 24 1994 14:40 | 7 |
| Rod's goal was a peach. To have such composure after running the length of the
pitch, to curl the ball so sweetly into the far side of the goal made it my
number one definately.
I agree with those top three of, Cantona , Le Tissier and Wallace,just not the
order.
Peter.
|
33.1560 | Fanzine | GVA02::LUANDA::Lainsbury | I didn't do it. | Tue May 24 1994 16:49 | 25 |
| A Leeds supporting mate of mine showed me a copy of 'Square Ball' the
Leeds fanzine.
Considering the team came 5th in the League, I thought it was reaaly
out of order the way the mag slagged off nearly every player in the team with
Newsome, Lukic, and Deane getting the worst treatment.
There was even the obligatory 'not as good as Revie' document.
Anybody else seen it, is it popular with Leeds fans ?
Best bit though.
Caption: What do you think of the current England team ?
Mr.Blobby: Blobby Blobby Blobby.
Caption: ..and Leeds United ?
Mr.Blobby: Blobby Blobby Blobby.
Caption: ...and Man. United ?
Mr.Blobby: Scum Scum.
Ha ha,
Andy
|
33.1561 | Escape to Victory? | YOUWOT::HOUSEN | World famous brick hypnotist | Tue May 24 1994 16:57 | 10 |
| Rod Wallace's goal reminded me of Pele's run in the film "Escape to Victory", in
a prisoner of war team against the might of Hitler's Germany. Pele runs more than
half the length of the pitch with the opposition doing their best to not tackle
him.... although for the rest of the gane they kicked anything that moved!
Although Wallace showed great skill... Spurs showed in one clip why they leaked
goals all season.... why didn't anyone try tackling him? or are they trying to
get a part in the remake of the film. ;-)
Norman
|
33.1562 | Tackling is OK if you actually tackle something other than air ! | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Tue May 24 1994 18:28 | 12 |
| Norman,
The reason Mr. Wallace got on course towards goal was BECAUSE three
players committed themselves to tackles at the side line. All three
missed, and left themselves stranded with Rod cantering off towards
their goal. Sometimes patience pays off (although not against Andre
Kanchelskis when he's running across goal ;-) I still can't believe
that Andy Gray left that out of his 101 Goals programme ! On second
thoughts, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by anything that Andy Gray
does !).
Jerry.
|
33.1563 | | SIOG::ESBECK | Dec Van Esbeck | Tue May 24 1994 19:31 | 6 |
| In fairness, you can only score against the team you're playing on the
day, but giving someone "Goal of the season" for waltzing through the
Tottenham defence...I ask you. My Granny could do that (and she's been
dead for 15 years!)
Declan
|
33.1564 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United : League Champions 1992. | Tue May 24 1994 20:52 | 8 |
| > re. 'Square Ball'
I read it all the time... definately a good read!! :->>>
This was the magazine with Eric Cantona bit in.. which I'm still
try to get photocopied so that you can see it! :->
Rick.
|
33.1565 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Here comes my baby... walking back to me | Fri Jun 10 1994 13:18 | 15 |
| Well on Skytext last night it said that Leeds had considered buying
Brian Laudrup & they had agreed terms etc.. but Leeds pulled out cos
Howard thought "he wouldn't fit in with Leeds style of play!"
Whats he on about.... we didn't have a style of play except for
drawing games...... !!!!!!!!!
He would have been a good buy.. and might have encouraged Macca &
Speedy to stay longer.... I sometimes wonder what Howard is upto...
after buying Dean... who doesn't fit in with our style of play.. and
never did.. *Sigh*
Anyone know of a good manager going spare???
Rick.
|
33.1566 | Or you could wait until October for Lou Macari.)) | PAKORA::ISUTHERLAND | I'll be forever blue... | Sun Jun 12 1994 05:10 | 3 |
|
Tommy McLean has just parted from Motherwell,and i believe a certain
Mr.Souness is still "actively seeking employment". ;>)
|
33.1567 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Here comes my baby... walking back to me | Sun Jun 12 1994 16:16 | 9 |
| Well it said on Teletext that Howard was going to buy two Foreign stars
in the next few weeks... didn't say who though..
>i believe a certain Mr.Souness is still "actively seeking employment"
I don't think so some how... we'd be back in the first
division before you could say "Errrrm... I'm a Scouser.. " :->
Rick.
|
33.1568 | 43.00 for the season | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Mon Jun 13 1994 15:54 | 20 |
| Rick
What are you doing putting notes in on a sunday you should be down the
pub !!!
I have got my season ticket application for season 1994-95 and the
price to me just 43.00 pounds for the whole of the season with a
seat!!!
Are you planning to go more regularly this season ??. As with last
season you need a Premier card to be able to get tickets for away
games.
T-shirts are very good and i think that gav didi a great job and must
be commended..
Bye for now
Paul...
|
33.1569 | | SHIPS::EDWARDS_D | | Mon Jun 13 1994 15:58 | 6 |
| re: -1
43 pounds for a season ticket ! Is that because Leeds' season finishes
at lot earlier than everybody else ?
Dave
|
33.1570 | Season Ticket vs Slumber Ticket ;-) | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Mon Jun 13 1994 16:50 | 9 |
| Dave,
You've got the reason wrong. The basic Leeds season ticket cost just 43
pounds. If, however, you decide to sign on for the optional "sleeping
bag and pillow" package (as most Leeds fans do), the price goes up to
285 pounds per ticket. This package is apparently especially popular
with the region's insomniacs !
Jerry.
|
33.1571 | | BERN01::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon | Mon Jun 13 1994 18:25 | 6 |
|
Give us all a break Jerry. I think its not a bad deal. 43 quid to watch
21 home games. How much do they pay you to go and watch their away
games?? 8-)
JBG
|
33.1572 | 43 quid ?!??#$@# | UPROAR::LEMP | We danced the Lumbago till dawn | Mon Jun 13 1994 18:43 | 14 |
| >I have got my season ticket application for season 1994-95 and the
>price to me just 43.00 pounds for the whole of the season with a
>seat!!!
Paul,
How come so cheap? Are Leeds giving discounts for long serving
(suffering?) supporters who get a season ticket no matter what. If so
then it's something that all clubs should adopt instead of letting the
fair weather fans come and go whilst still charging the regulars the
same amount.
Paul.
|
33.1573 | Bargain mate | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Mon Jun 13 1994 20:31 | 32 |
|
O.K. here's the deal...
A couple of years ago when all that infamous bond talk was about
at the Arse and West Ham, Leeds brought in their own scheme to finance
the builing of the new East stand (6 million).
You could buy a bond for 500.00 pounds either in one lump sum or over a
year by direct debit.
Once the bond was bought this would entitle you to 100 pounds of the
price of your season ticket each year for the next seven years, that is
700 pounds back to you.
As my season ticket a year before the scheme was in the East stand terrace
Leeds said that they would hold the price for season tickets which was
140 pounds.
So the price for my ticket last year was 140 minus 100=40 pounds.
The ticket will be that 140+ inflation this year ie. 140+ a little = 3
pounds, next year it will be the same again.
If you buy a ticket without a bond then yes it will cost you 280 odd quid,
but buying this every yearwill soon outweight the price you payed for
the bond!!
Also you can sell it on if you wish,it gets you discount in the
club shop and priority over other fans when buying tickets etc.
Suffice to say that not all Bonds have to rip the fan off.
'nuf said....
Paul
|
33.1574 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Here comes my baby... walking back to me | Mon Jun 13 1994 21:05 | 18 |
| >What are you doing putting notes in on a sunday you should be down the
>pub !!!
Its a long story... & I'll tell you some time if I'm still at DEC
by the end of the week! :->
>Are you planning to go more regularly this season ??.
Yep.. I've sent off for my Premier card to enable me to get
tickets for away games.... so I should be there mroe often.. can't wait
to see Leeds whip the Arse... :->>>
>T-shirts are very good and i think that gav didi a great job and
must be commended..
An exceptional set of T-Shirts... the business... :->
Rick.
|
33.1575 | | JONPC1::Button | Jon Button @REO | Thu Jun 30 1994 19:34 | 4 |
33.1576 | You can bet your bottom dollar it's worse!!! | MARVIN::MORRELL | Here comes my baby... walking back to me | Thu Jun 30 1994 20:23 | 6 |
| No.. it can't be true... he's crap!!!!!!!!!!
Oh please God say its not true.. is this an even bigger mistake than
signing Brian Deane!!!!!
Rick
|
33.1577 | | EASE::SMYTH | | Thu Jun 30 1994 20:49 | 11 |
| Whats Wilkinson up to.
Sold newsome to norwich for 1 mill then goes and spends 2.6 mill on Palmer who
is equally as bad.
He may be thinking of playing Palmer in midfield instead of chris fairclough????
with the latter reverting to his old defensive role.
What is the story with Dave O'Leary ????
GS in Dublin
|
33.1578 | Carlton, 35' turning circle & poor visibility | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Thu Jun 30 1994 21:22 | 12 |
33.1579 | | PETRUS::GUEST_N | An innocent passer-by | Fri Jul 01 1994 15:36 | 3 |
|
Do i not like that...
|
33.1580 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Fri Jul 01 1994 17:22 | 1 |
| AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
|
33.1581 | Central defence | MUGGER::NORTH | | Fri Jul 01 1994 21:31 | 5 |
| My paper says Palmers been bought to play in defence and Palmers happy
about that cos he gets to play in the same position all the time. In
the reserves probably:>
|
33.1582 | Nigel Worthington ????? | EASE::SMYTH | | Mon Jul 04 1994 14:23 | 13 |
| Heard a rumor that Leeds are trying to by Worthington from Wednesday for 250,000
pounds. This sounds as if Tony Dorigo must be injured or has no future at Leeds
?????
Bad move by Howard as Worthington is a short term replacement at 32. Leeds have
a couple of ageing players in Strachan, Lukic and Mc Allister so would he not be
better advised going for someone who is young and capable like replacing
Strachan with McAteer from Bolton who has formed a good partnership with Kelly
the right back for Ireland during the world cup.
My Thoughts
GS in Dublin
|
33.1584 | | BERN01::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon | Mon Jul 04 1994 14:55 | 4 |
|
GS, do you usually think everything twice??
8-) JBG in Bern
|
33.1586 | Sorry it has now been deleted. But what about the rumour | EASE::SMYTH | | Mon Jul 04 1994 15:13 | 0 |
33.1587 | Imagine, we could have bought B. Roy for less money than Carlton! :-< | MARVIN::MORRELL | Here comes my baby... walking back to me | Tue Jul 05 1994 12:20 | 5 |
| Anyone know what Wilko is upto... he's got us Leeds fans total bemused!
Trevor Francis must be laughing all the way to the bank!!
Rick
|
33.1588 | You've got Carlton Palmer, he smokes marijuana, na | UPROAR::LEMP | We danced the Lumbago till dawn | Tue Jul 05 1994 12:57 | 35 |
| Rick,
> -< Imagine, we could have bought B. Roy for less money than Carlton >-
You're right there but I think even Carlton would have scored the
sitter that Roy missed last night.
>Anyone know what Wilko is upto... he's got us Leeds fans total bemused!
Seriously though, Palmer shoulldn't be judged on his England
performances, especially the match where Taylor seemed to put him in as
a direct replacement for Gazza (against the Dutch I think). For
Wednesday he's been a good player over the years who can run with the
ball, tackle and, when he feels in the mood, make a decent pass. As
I've said before he can do the job Batty did at Leeds but moreover can
be put in central defence and even in attack (he did this at Hillsboro'
last season and scored a few goals)
Before Mr Green gets his soapbox out I'll say that Batty has improved
at Blackburn which does suggest that Wilkinson was restricting him to a
more defensive role. If Wilko has bought Palmer as a defender, which he
always said he didn't want to do for Wednesday, then I don;t think he's
getting the best from him. This could be another instance of Wilkinson
putting someone in a certain position and forcing them into playing in
a certain manner. Batty said when he left that he felt constrained by
the way he was asked to play and wanted to develop the creative side of
his game and I think Deane would perform a lot better if he wasn't
being used as a target man.
>Trevor Francis must be laughing all the way to the bank!!
Probably! I think 2.6 M is too much to pay but we payed more for Sinton
so don't think yourselves too badly done by.
Paul.
|
33.1589 | | YUPPY::PANES | Tonight, Matthew, I am going to be Fruit Bat | Tue Jul 05 1994 13:02 | 13 |
| <<< Note 33.1588 by UPROAR::LEMP "We danced the Lumbago till dawn" >>>
-< You've got Carlton Palmer, he smokes marijuana, na >-
> a certain manner. Batty said when he left that he felt constrained by
> the way he was asked to play and wanted to develop the creative side of
> his game
Pass the glue!
Stuart
BTW Nigel Worthington has signed for Leeds. It is, apparently,the 47th
time in his career that he has joined "Wilko".
|
33.1590 | I see clouds on the horizon | PETRUS::GUEST_N | An innocent passer-by | Tue Jul 05 1994 13:28 | 14 |
|
re .1588
You may be right about Carlton being better than his reputation. The
problem is that he has such a credibility gap that when he has a bad game
the knives will come out (for him and Howard).
To be honest, the names signed so far don't inspire much confidence
for the new season.
How much money did Howard have to spend ? And how much has he got left
?
Nigel
|
33.1591 | Dean Saunders | EASE::SMYTH | | Tue Jul 05 1994 13:37 | 9 |
| Apparently Leeds have approached Villa about the possibility of bringing
Saunders to Elland rd fee offered by Wilkinson is 1.5mill for a player who has
just turned 30, but then again he can score goals something that Brian Deane
cannot.
I think that Atkinson would happily take the money as he is after Nii Lamptey a
Ghanian forward who plays in Holland.
GS in Dublin
|
33.1592 | | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Resonate some understanding | Tue Jul 05 1994 14:01 | 5 |
| If Leeds buy Saunders, I'll be a happy man. He scored hatfuls of goals in his
first couple of games for Villa and then hasn't scored since. It's going to be a
strange Villa team though if we lose Deano and Daliano.
Mike
|
33.1593 | If Batty was from Lancs he'd be God. | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Tue Jul 05 1994 14:37 | 14 |
| I think Wilko's strategy is based on buying now for the latter half
of the season. Palmer and Worthington are the kind of guts and
experience players you would buy to scrap your way out of relegation.
Does anyone have a list of Leeds transfer dealings since the
championship ? Has he made any good moves since then ? (apart from selling
Newsome).
Or maybe theres some real good young talent about to break through the
ranks at Leeds and these guys are going there as coaches ?
Cheers,
Andy
|
33.1594 | | UPROAR::LEMP | We danced the Lumbago till dawn | Tue Jul 05 1994 16:51 | 16 |
| Bit of a dilemma here! I'd like Palmer to do well because I think he's
taken a lot of unjustified criticism and, as a Wednesday supporter,
have seen what he can really do (when he wants to). On the other hand
I'd like him to be crap because he's gone to Leeds (semi-smiley).
I think he got a chip on his shoulder, again unjustifiably, when he
started getting picked for England, and I wouldn't be suprised if he
wasn't getting on with the other team members at Hillsboro'. Now that
Hyde has come through I'm not surprised that he's gone, just the
destination - Ron "Bojangles" Atkinson has been after him for a while
now.
BTW Andy, your rod and line are showing over the bank.
Paul.
|
33.1595 | A big one's hard to hide Paul ;-) | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Tue Jul 05 1994 16:54 | 1 |
|
|
33.1596 | please | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Fri Jul 08 1994 21:33 | 5 |
|
please can someone post the fixture list for 94/95, or mail me.
Thanks
SteveP
|
33.1597 | Leeds Buy Skuhravy | EASE::SMYTH | | Wed Jul 13 1994 13:51 | 8 |
| Leeds confirmed that they are close to buying the Genoa striker. Cost 3 million
Deane appears to be going to Sheffield Wednesday as Francis still thinks he is a
good player, for a knock down price from the terrible fee of 2.7 mill. Compare
Deane to Cantona who we bought for 1 mill.
GS in Dublin
|
33.1598 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Here comes my baby... walking back to me | Wed Jul 13 1994 20:29 | 4 |
| Well lets hope that Skuhravy does the business... cos Deane certainly
didn't... How much are they going to offer for Deane?
Rick.
|
33.1599 | please | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Jul 21 1994 20:28 | 7 |
|
Oh come on lads,
Please can I have a fixtures list. All you get in Scotland is Rangers
or someone moaning about Rangers.
SteveP
|
33.1600 | x00 wahay! | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | Let them eat fish | Thu Jul 21 1994 21:04 | 6 |
|
Cheers steve.
Tone
|
33.1601 | bad boy | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Jul 21 1994 21:31 | 10 |
|
Dear Tony,
The Leeds note is a haven for sporting debate not some plaything
set up so that overgrown school children can spend time replies that
give them a girly feeling.
SteveP
p.s. you are a poo-poo head and Man-u are sad bunch of whiffy farts.
|
33.1602 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Sun Jul 24 1994 20:33 | 28 |
| Ok.. here goes the first half of the season.. :->
20/8/94 West Ham vs Leeds.
23/8/95 Leeds vs The Arse.
27/8/94 Leeds vs Chelsea
10/9/94 Leeds vs S*um
17/9/94 Coventry vs Leeds
24/9/94 Sheff Wed vs Leeds
1/10/94 Leeds vs Man City
8/10/94 Norwich vs Leeds
15/10/94 Leeds vs Tottenham... ( Home Win.. :->>> )
22/10/94 Leeds vs Leicester
29/10/94 Southampton vs Leeds
1/11/94 Ipswich vs Leeds
5/11/94 Leeds vs The Wombles...
19/11/94 QPR vs Leeds
26/11/94 Notts Forest vs Leeds
3/12/94 Everton vs Leeds
10/12/94 Leeds vs West Ham
17/12/94 The Arse vs Leeds
26/12/94 Leeds vs Blackburn
27/12/94 Battyburn vs Leeds
31/12/94 Scouserpool vs Leeds...
Those the games I hav written down on my calendar & I think they
are correct.. :->
Rick.
|
33.1603 | another max points for the F.E's | YUPPY::PANES | Roberto Baggio: the new Diana Ross | Mon Jul 25 1994 12:28 | 4 |
| I take it that in order to spare any embarrasment Leeds( Leeds Leeds ) have
decided to keep the game against the Palace ( 30/8/94 ) quiet.
Stuart
|
33.1604 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Mon Jul 25 1994 12:38 | 6 |
| I was trying to copy them from the D. Express but their table was just
too hard to read!
I thought CP weren't worth mentioning as its already a win! :->
Rick.
|
33.1605 | Get a grip man | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Mon Jul 25 1994 12:43 | 4 |
| Rick,
Blackburn are playing Man City on the 26-12-94. If Leeds want to join
in as well I'm sure City will be glad of the help !
|
33.1606 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Mon Jul 25 1994 12:45 | 4 |
| Like I say.. these are teh ones that I wrote down.. before I accidently
throw the paper away! :->>>
Rick.
|
33.1607 | | PAVONE::TURNER | | Fri Aug 05 1994 16:17 | 3 |
| Pre-season friendly:
Ascoli (Italy) 0 Leeds 2
|
33.1608 | Look out for Masinga during the upcoming season | XSTACY::JLUNDON | <A HREF="http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html"> | Wed Aug 10 1994 16:05 | 10 |
| Our new S. African signing P. Masinga is scoring freely in Leeds' pre-season
friendlies so he might be worth a few quid if you are betting on the season's
top scorers.
Leeds are in Ireland on Saturday to play a friendly against Shels. It's hoped
to have a Leeds United Internet Mailing List meet after the match. The venue
will be the "Cat and Cage", after the match. The group will be recognised as
they will all be wearing Leeds mailing list T-shirts.
James.
|
33.1609 | leeds 1-2 Rangers | REOELF::MACKENZIED | | Thu Aug 11 1994 19:02 | 7 |
| In search of some information :
Can any leeds fans tell me how many goals Gary Mcallister scored last
season ?
This information would me much appreciated !
cheers
|
33.1610 | They're Oot again ! | MASALA::JJACK | Everyone's gotta be an AEK lover | Thu Aug 11 1994 19:42 | 7 |
|
I don't know the exact figure, but it was definately more than rangers
scored in Athens last night.
8*)
|
33.1611 | full fixture posting? | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Aug 11 1994 21:10 | 5 |
|
He scored 9 in the league. I dont know if he got any in other
competitions.
SteveP
|
33.1612 | Leeds United Fixture list | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Sun Aug 14 1994 18:27 | 55 |
| Ok... here is a list of fixtures for the year I think it is complete... :->
Teams Date Score Scorers
West Ham vs Leeds 20th Aug
Leeds vs Arsenal 23rd Aug
Leeds vs Chelsea 27th Aug
Palace vs Leeds 30th Aug
Leeds vs Man Utd 11th Sep
Coventry vs Leeds 17th Sep
Sheff Wed vs Leeds 26th Sep
Leeds vs Man City 1st Oct
Norwich vs Leeds 8th Oct
Leeds vs Tottenham 15th Oct
Leeds vs Leicester 22nd Oct
S'hmpton vs Leeds 29th Oct
Ipswich vs Leeds 1st Nov
Leeds vs Wimbledon 5th Nov
Leeds vs Forest 26th Nov
QPR vs Leeds 19th Nov
Everton vs Leeds 5th Dec
Leeds vs West Ham 10th Dec
Arsenal vs Leeds 17th Dec
Leeds vs Newcastle 26th Dec
Blackburn vs Leeds 28th Dec
Leeds vs Liverpool 31st Dec
Aston Villa vs Leeds 2nd Jan
Leeds vs S'hmpton 14th Jan
Leicester vs Leeds 21st Jan
Leeds vs QPR 24th Jan
Wimbledon vs Leeds 4th Feb
Leeds vs Ipswich 11th Feb
Forest vs Leeds 18th Feb
Leeds vs Everton 21st Feb
Man City vs Leeds 25th Feb
Leeds vs Sheff Wed 4th Mar
Leeds vs Palace 7th Mar
Chelsea vs Leeds 11th Mar
Leeds vs Coventry 18th Mar
Man Utd vs Leeds 1st Apr
Liverpool vs Leeds 8th Apr
Leeds vs Blackburn 15th Apr
Newcastle vs Leeds 17th Apr
Leeds vs Aston Villa 29th Apr
Leeds vs Norwich 6th May
Tottenham vs Leeds 13th May
The following games involving Leeds United will appear on Sky Sports :
Sunday 11th Sept : Leeds vs Man Utd
Monday 26th Sept : Sheff Wed vs Leeds
Monday 5th Dec : Everton vs Leeds
|
33.1613 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | June18-94, the Italian Job | Mon Aug 15 1994 13:19 | 7 |
| friendly result from Saturday in Dublin....
Shelbourne 0 - 6 Leeds....
I believe that Leeds had their full first-team squad playing....
Ray....
|
33.1614 | 5 days | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Mon Aug 15 1994 13:23 | 6 |
|
.1612
Thanks for the list. I will take this with me as this is my last week.
SteveP
|
33.1615 | Tickets Available for West Ham Vs Leeds | FERGIE::QUINLESS | Martin Quinless Digital Consulting | Thu Aug 18 1994 17:40 | 13 |
| Fellow Leeds Fans
There is a possibility that I will have two tickets for the game
against West Ham on Saturday. Is anyone interested? Hopefully I will
get them tonight. Assuming they materialise I am happy to arrange
for them to go to anyone who is interested as soon as I get in tomorrow
morning.
Anyone interested please send me a mail to FERGIE::QUINLESS.
Leeds Leeds Leeds
Martin Q
|
33.1616 | Thanks for the tickets Martin.. :-> | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Sun Aug 21 1994 21:04 | 72 |
|
Well all I can say is that I'm glad I got free tickets to go & see
this game.... cos I wouldn't have paid 18 quid ( the price of the
ticket I was given ).. I wouldn't have paid 8 quid it was that bad..
I'm sure there must have been GM Vauxhall games which were better than
this one!
What made it even worse was sitting with a load of West Ham fans
who were either singing
" I'm for ever blowing bubbles..."
in their worst cockney accents.., or shouting...
"Come on West Haaamm....."
I haven't quite decided which was worse!! :->
The first half was terrible.... Leeds & West Ham were as bad as each
other... there was only two good chances.. one to West Ham where Lukic
managed to push it round the post.. & the other to David White where
he headed it straight to the West Ham goal keeper!! Apart from those
real chances it was just a rubbish... The Second half Leeds were on
top.. but they just failed to finish... David "cheeky chappy" White's
attempted chip over the West Ham goalkeeper was the closest they came
to scoring... how it missed I will never know! :->>>> There was one
other clear cut attempt where the ball just seemed to bounce around
the penalty area but just would not cross the line... but the West Ham
defence were saved on this occasion by their ace defender " Brian
Deane " heading the ball just wide!!! ;->
Leeds looked liked they needed more practice.. they looked like
they could be a good team but the understanding isn't quite there yet..
but it is still only early in the season.. :->
Lukic looked as dodgy as ever kicking the back passes out... I
say brink back Mark Beaney, Carlton & Worthington looked quite
comfortable at the back.. Kelly was out of this world.. his crossing is
getting better by the day.. it looks like this guy can do no wrong..
;->
The only thing to say about the back four is that they liked to pass it
around the penalty area rather too much for my liking.. while that may
be preferable to hoofing it up the field and letting the opposition
attack again, it was giving me a near heart attack... *:->
McAllister & Strachan were very quiet in this game.. and David White
was almost invisible.... I didn't know he was on the pitch until he
headed the ball to the West Ham goalkeeper... :->
As for the front pair... Brian Deane is ****CRAP****, the number of
chances he missed.. I hear that Dougie Laughton is going to make a bid
for him in the near future.... some of his shots travelled so far over
the post that I thought we were watching Leeds Rugby League club & not
Leeds United... if we'd been playing Rugby then we could have won by
at least 12 points... :-> The most frequent comments I seemed to make
about Deano was....
"It's just over the bar..."
"Oh.. its just wide of the post..."
"Come back Chapman.. all it forgiven... :->"
Wallace was alright but they had him pretty tightly marked... but
Alvin Martin should have been sent off after his tackle on Rod.. and
we should have had a penalty....
Overall... I hope its a better match next week for Leeds
vs Chelsea... :->
Rick.
|
33.1617 | I love it when we win! :-> | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Wed Aug 24 1994 12:11 | 6 |
| Well what can I say... :->
WE ARE LEEDS... :->>>>>>
Rick.
|
33.1618 | Thanks | GLADYS::CRAVEN | A McBodybag | Wed Aug 24 1994 12:28 | 2 |
| Well, what can you say Rick, apart from telling me the bloody score, I
am adrift in the Pacific with no info....Ica
|
33.1619 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Wed Aug 24 1994 12:33 | 10 |
|
Well Ica... the score was...
LEEDS 1 - Arsenal 0...
Bring on Chelsea... we beat them 4-1 last season... :->
Rick.
|
33.1620 | What happened to Strachan? | GLADYS::CRAVEN | A McBodybag | Wed Aug 24 1994 12:51 | 4 |
| You beauty always good to see Arsenal lose by 1-0.
I hope you put Chelsea well and truly to the sword on saturday as well.
Ica
|
33.1621 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Wed Aug 24 1994 12:56 | 4 |
| He pulled his hamstring... so Noel Whelan came on and he scored in the
89th minute.. :->
Rick.
|
33.1622 | be prepared.... | IRNBRU::HOWARD | June18-94, the Italian Job | Wed Aug 24 1994 20:32 | 11 |
| Greetings from note 58.* I'm planning a trip down to Yorkshire
next January 21 for the championship decider between Leeds Utd
and QPR....can some kind soul give me all the info that I might need?,
ie Ticket hotline number, where or where not to sit, best/worst pubs
and nightclubs, nearest Burger King, train station etc....you know the
kind of stuff....
yours in QPRness....
Ray....
|
33.1623 | That's all there is to it. | UPROAR::LEMP | We danced the Lumbago till dawn | Wed Aug 24 1994 20:48 | 8 |
| >Greetings from note 58.* I'm planning a trip down to Yorkshire
>next January 21 for the championship decider between Leeds Utd
>and QPR....can some kind soul give me all the info that I might need?,
**********************************************************
Yes, don't go!
Paul. (from Sheffield).
|
33.1624 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Wed Aug 24 1994 22:46 | 44 |
|
Ticket Hot line number is : (0532) 710710... be prepared to wait if you
do manage to avoid the engaged tone.
A better way of getting a ticket is actually faxing the club on (0532)706560
including details of what tickets you want... which stand... and your
credit card details etc..
The best place for away supporters to sit is the Kop...
No seriously.. your very unlikely to get a good ticket for the kop
as these have mainly all gone to season ticket holders.... The East
Stand is very nice.. its the new 2-tier stand... plus theres always the
old West Stand which has the most expensive tickets... :-> I'd go for
the East Stand... nice view is you like heights.. :->
Prices.... These are dependent on how the club depends to catagorise
the game.. I think these are rough ranges...
Kop 12 - 14 quid
East Stand 15 - 17 quid
West Stand 18 - 20 quid
Best pubs... well people from the Leeds United mailing list meet up
in a pub called the Adelphi... so you could meet up with some of us &
we could escort you down to the game.. making sure you don't get beaten
up along the way!!! ;->
Burger King... lots of them in the city centre.. but not too many
out towards the ground.. :->
train station... in the centre of the city... it will take you
about 20 minutes to get their by bus.. and most of the busses leave
from the city centre... :->
nightclubs.... there are tons of them in the city centre... more
than be listed in here.. :->
Rick.
|
33.1625 | In the Coca Cola Cup.... | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Thu Aug 25 1994 12:14 | 3 |
| Leeds are playing Mansfield at Elland Road...
Rick.
|
33.1626 | Updated Results... | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Sun Sep 11 1994 17:28 | 56 |
|
Teams Date Score Scorers
West Ham vs Leeds 20th Aug 0-0
Leeds vs Arsenal 23rd Aug 1-0 Whelan
Leeds vs Chelsea 27th Aug 2-3 Masinga,
Whelan
Palace vs Leeds 30th Aug 1-2 White,
Whelan
Leeds vs Man Utd 11th Sep
Coventry vs Leeds 17th Sep
Sheff Wed vs Leeds 26th Sep
Leeds vs Man City 1st Oct
Norwich vs Leeds 8th Oct
Leeds vs Tottenham 15th Oct
Leeds vs Leicester 22nd Oct
S'hmpton vs Leeds 29th Oct
Ipswich vs Leeds 1st Nov
Leeds vs Wimbledon 5th Nov
Leeds vs Forest 26th Nov
QPR vs Leeds 19th Nov
Everton vs Leeds 5th Dec
Leeds vs West Ham 10th Dec
Arsenal vs Leeds 17th Dec
Leeds vs Newcastle 26th Dec
Blackburn vs Leeds 28th Dec
Leeds vs Liverpool 31st Dec
Aston Villa vs Leeds 2nd Jan
Leeds vs S'hmpton 14th Jan
Leicester vs Leeds 21st Jan
Leeds vs QPR 24th Jan
Wimbledon vs Leeds 4th Feb
Leeds vs Ipswich 11th Feb
Forest vs Leeds 18th Feb
Leeds vs Everton 21st Feb
Man City vs Leeds 25th Feb
Leeds vs Sheff Wed 4th Mar
Leeds vs Palace 7th Mar
Chelsea vs Leeds 11th Mar
Leeds vs Coventry 18th Mar
Man Utd vs Leeds 1st Apr
Liverpool vs Leeds 8th Apr
Leeds vs Blackburn 15th Apr
Newcastle vs Leeds 17th Apr
Leeds vs Aston Villa 29th Apr
Leeds vs Norwich 6th May
Tottenham vs Leeds 13th May
The following games involving Leeds United will appear on Sky Sports :
Sunday 11th Sept : Leeds vs Man Utd
Monday 26th Sept : Sheff Wed vs Leeds
Monday 5th Dec : Everton vs Leeds
|
33.1627 | Man Utd = 3rd best United in premier ? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Mon Sep 12 1994 05:39 | 15 |
|
Leeds United 2 Man Utd 1
Wetherell Ooh Ahh penalty
Deane!!!
Amazing, Leeds' first win over Man Utd since 1066 (or something
like that).
Of course Man Utd aren't bothering with domestic competitions this
season so they played their reserve team (valued at 145.65 million)
and only played Cantona to boost the attendence and rotten fruit
sales around Elland Road.
:-)
|
33.1628 | How sweet it is... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | <A HREF="http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html"> | Mon Sep 12 1994 13:41 | 49 |
| Those lying, cheating, foul-mouthed MUFCs were crushed yesterday at
a pristine looking Elland Road. Leeds fairly and squarely crushed the
MUFC, no matter what you might have heard to the contrary. Did you
know that they were playing with an extra player -- the referee?
I could not believe some of the yellow cards he gave to Leeds
players yesterday with Cantona getting away with probably the most
malicious foul of all, right underneath the eye of the referee. As
for Hughes, Ince, and Cantona giving lip almost with every decision
that went against then, which yesterday was few, how come none of them
were booked?
Did the referee talk to Sky afterwards BTW? I bet you, he did in his
backside, for then he'd have to explain how he contrived to give the
MUFC probably the most outlandishly bad penalty of the season, for a
foul that was so blatantly outside the box it wasn't true. Deane
started the tackle on Itch (Ince) practically on the half way line.
Wilko must take a lot of credit for this one as he set out his stall
early on looking for the three points. I thought I never see the day
when we'd have Maginga, Deane, Wallace *and* Masinga all on the same
team on the same day against a team of the _quality_ of the MUFC. Of
course, the MUFC are now saying that Leeds caught them on a bad day.
Is that what they say when the lose a game, just being bad losers as
we've come to expect? Maybe they were beaten by a better team who
also looked ravenous for a result. The MUFC on the other hand never
really got to grips with Leeds and were only let into the game by
extremely poor refereeing decisions. Maybe the MUFC have started to
believe the absolute shitte that is emanating from the media about how
great they are (not!).
The MUFC deserved nothing less than a two goal defeat and only for the
referee they would have got what they deserved. It made me mad to
hear a tosser called Smith reporting on the game for RTE radio comment
that the MUFC were unlucky not to secure a result from the game. He,
of course, forgot to mention some pertinent facts like the diabolical
referee, the many chances that Leeds spurned, the absolute anonymity of
both Hughes, Cantona, and Ince upto the last 10 minutes, the positive
tactics of Wilko going for the result, and the brilliant Leeds crowd
who drove the lads on.
Last but not least to all MUFC fans out there: take the result like
men. We've been on the receiving end of a lot of bad results versus
you over the past four years. Some of these games we should have won
but didn't, some others we didn't deserve to win, but at least I hope
we were men enough to take our beating. Do the same now and prove ye
aren't just fair weather fans.
Finally, just one thing: 2-1 with lots of love.
|
33.1629 | Take that boulder of your shoulder mate ! | MASALA::JJACK | There it's !!! | Mon Sep 12 1994 13:51 | 4 |
|
I've heard of bad losers, but never bad winners !!
|
33.1630 | Updated Results... :->>>>> | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Mon Sep 12 1994 14:35 | 58 |
|
Teams Date Score Scorers
West Ham vs Leeds 20th Aug 0-0
Leeds vs Arsenal 23rd Aug 1-0 Whelan
Leeds vs Chelsea 27th Aug 2-3 Masinga,
Whelan
Palace vs Leeds 30th Aug 1-2 White,
Whelan
Leeds vs Man Utd 11th Sep 2-1 Whetherall,
Deane
Coventry vs Leeds 17th Sep
Sheff Wed vs Leeds 26th Sep
Leeds vs Man City 1st Oct
Norwich vs Leeds 8th Oct
Leeds vs Tottenham 15th Oct
Leeds vs Leicester 22nd Oct
S'hmpton vs Leeds 29th Oct
Ipswich vs Leeds 1st Nov
Leeds vs Wimbledon 5th Nov
Leeds vs Forest 26th Nov
QPR vs Leeds 19th Nov
Everton vs Leeds 5th Dec
Leeds vs West Ham 10th Dec
Arsenal vs Leeds 17th Dec
Leeds vs Newcastle 26th Dec
Blackburn vs Leeds 28th Dec
Leeds vs Liverpool 31st Dec
Aston Villa vs Leeds 2nd Jan
Leeds vs S'hmpton 14th Jan
Leicester vs Leeds 21st Jan
Leeds vs QPR 24th Jan
Wimbledon vs Leeds 4th Feb
Leeds vs Ipswich 11th Feb
Forest vs Leeds 18th Feb
Leeds vs Everton 21st Feb
Man City vs Leeds 25th Feb
Leeds vs Sheff Wed 4th Mar
Leeds vs Palace 7th Mar
Chelsea vs Leeds 11th Mar
Leeds vs Coventry 18th Mar
Man Utd vs Leeds 1st Apr
Liverpool vs Leeds 8th Apr
Leeds vs Blackburn 15th Apr
Newcastle vs Leeds 17th Apr
Leeds vs Aston Villa 29th Apr
Leeds vs Norwich 6th May
Tottenham vs Leeds 13th May
The following games involving Leeds United will appear on Sky Sports :
Sunday 11th Sept : Leeds vs Man Utd
Monday 26th Sept : Sheff Wed vs Leeds
Monday 5th Dec : Everton vs Leeds
|
33.1631 | | GENIE::GOODEJ | | Mon Sep 12 1994 14:51 | 5 |
|
Carlton Palmer played an absolute cracker yesterday. He was definitely
my MOTM.
JBG
|
33.1632 | A victory over manu at last... | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Mon Sep 12 1994 15:19 | 16 |
| The ref was interviewed on Sky later on, and did say he might have made
a mistake with the penalty decision. At least he had the guts to say
that. Unfortuately for me that decision ruined the game after that, as
Leeds started to look nervous and Manu though they were going to get
something out of the game after all, which of course they didn't
deserve.
The decision not to book Cantona I think, was made as the commentary
team said, was because it was Cantona and the ref wanted to take the
heat out of the situation. Was other reason was there ? It was terrible
tackle...!! Don't you just love the "who me, ref ?" expression
afterwards....
Anyway, the right result at the end, and an enjoyable match.
Brian
|
33.1633 | Feeling better? | PAVONE::TURNER | | Mon Sep 12 1994 15:37 | 5 |
| re: .1628
Oh well, James, I guess Leeds' victory just wasn't enough to cancel
that terrible Monday morning feeling ;-)
Er...it *is* only a game, innit?
|
33.1634 | Another Cunno | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Mon Sep 12 1994 17:33 | 13 |
33.1635 | | GENIE::GOODEJ | | Mon Sep 12 1994 17:41 | 11 |
|
Brain,
I think you're being a little hard on the Leeds players &
supporters. I mean its not every week they win against the likes of
Manchester United....13 years ago was the last time wasn't it? So,
its hardly surprising they want to celebrate is it? Let them bask in
the glory of it awhile, after all, it could be another 13 years before
they do it again! 8-)
JBG
|
33.1636 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | June18-94, the Italian Job | Mon Sep 12 1994 17:58 | 7 |
| ah come on Brian,
at least let James have bragging rights for a couple of days,
Ray....
ps....up the R's
|
33.1637 | Cunno would turn over in his grove | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Mon Sep 12 1994 18:03 | 9 |
33.1638 | Fair play is good fun | XSTACY::JLUNDON | <A HREF="http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html"> | Mon Sep 12 1994 19:10 | 28 |
| re -last few
I cannot believe that Cantona wasn't booked yesterday for that two
footed tackle. I wonder if it had been a Leeds player than went in
feet first would he have gotten off so lightly? No bloody way. For
instance look at the tackles Kelly and the other got booked for?
Deane got booked for telling the referee that it wasn't a penalty
while Hughes has on occasion literally gone down referees' throats
when a decision has gone against him, without censure. He was at it
again yesterday. Fair play is good fun I say and United got more than
their fair share yesterday but Leeds still came up trumps.
The referee made a terrible decision giving the penalty which
undoubtedly let United back in the game. We were looking very
comfortable at the time and as a result had to hold out for the last
15 minutes. They, as you rightly said, Brian didn't deserve to be
within two goals of Leeds at the end. I just think the media can't
see beyond their noses when in come to United while Leeds invariably
got lashed for practically everything they do.
In conclusion I think I've a lot to crow about as it's not that often
that Leeds have the luck go against them and still win, especially
when it comes to United. Remember Pallister literally sticking
Chapman to the post a few years back in an FA cup tie? Leeds is
gelling together well and I have high hopes for this season if we can
keep the momentum up.
James.
|
33.1639 | The Sheep are Singing in the Hills of Yorkshire | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Mon Sep 12 1994 21:58 | 16 |
33.1640 | The sheep in Galway are singing too... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | <A HREF="http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html"> | Tue Sep 13 1994 14:28 | 26 |
| Brian,
> Take off the tinted glasses, Chapman jumped with Pally went over his shoulders
> and landed breaking his arm. The post was never involved.
Not the way I saw it. Pallister saw that Chapman was off balance and gave him
a nudge. I've seen penalties given for a lot less.
> which if the rules were applied should have seen him get the line.
> Cantona deserved a booking, but that's up to the referee.
So it's OK for Cantona to get away with a full blooded two footed foul/tackle
right in front of the ref and it's not OK from Deane to try for the ball from
behind? Do you honestly believe that Deane tackled Ince with more malicious
intent than Cantona did on McAllister? Get real!
BTW: The sheep aren't just singing in Yorkshire, they are singing a happy tune
in Galway too :-).
I'm enjoying this as it's been on the cards for a long long time.
re .1629
If being a bad winner is my lot in life then I'll happily have it...
James.
|
33.1641 | BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Tue Sep 13 1994 16:16 | 12 |
33.1642 | To really savour victory you first have to stomach defeat | XSTACY::JLUNDON | <A HREF="http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html"> | Tue Sep 13 1994 19:53 | 11 |
| Re -1
It's been a while since our last win, I agree. Both your points are valid
though!
I see that the excuses for Sunday's debacle include the Man United players being
tired after international duty on Wednesday. Of course, there was no mention
of the four Leeds players who each excelled for their respective countries on
the same night.
James.
|
33.1643 | General reaction from Leeds mailing list | XSTACY::JLUNDON | <A HREF="http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html"> | Tue Sep 13 1994 20:49 | 36 |
| From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"tim.kennedy@bj.co.uk" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 13-SEP-1994
16:38:17.16
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: Proud to be a Leeds fan
I am proud of my team for the first time in about two
years, proud to be associated with a team who fought
like tigers for 90 minutes, outplayed the supposed
superior scum for all but 15 minutes at the end. Don't
expect a match report chaps, I am totally incapable of
describing it. Suffice it to say that I will remember the
game for the rest of my life. 10/10.
I watched the whole thing on Sky and I still don't
believe it. In today's papers the referee has apologised
for giving the penalty when he admits Ince rolled about
a third of the pitch into the box when he dived. Cuntona
shouldn't have been on the pitch to take that pen, he'd
just hacked Macca and not even got a slap on the wrist for it.
Only one thing...why don't they play like this more
often????? I know we have a better squad than before
but still, it astounds me. The players said Wilko
told them to go all out for attack.
Full marks to the crowd too who put up an unbelievable
barrage of noise. And most of all, thank you to Mrs
Deane for giving birth to her son Brian 25 years ago and
who just paid off his transfer fee several times over.
I'm just off to the tattoo parlour to tattoo the result
on my forehead. All the scum here are avoiding me like
the plague. HA!
Tim K.
|
33.1644 | | MUFC::TONY | | Tue Sep 13 1994 20:57 | 6 |
| James,
You're showing yourself up...
Tony
|
33.1645 | Seems like some fans can't take their beating! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | <A HREF="http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html"> | Tue Sep 13 1994 20:58 | 9 |
| The Leeds United mailing list has just had to take the extraordinary
step of deleting a subscriber. He is, as you might have guessed, a
MUFC supporter. He had continued to post abusive and in general
rubbishy messages to the list after repeated warnings that he would be
exterminated if he continued to do so. It has come to a head since
his team's defeat at the weekend. Some people just can't take beating
can they!
James.
|
33.1647 | Oi Nutter !!! | MASALA::JJACK | Time for a personal name change | Tue Sep 13 1994 22:20 | 6 |
|
re.lst
Are you after my SET HIDDEN record ?
|
33.1648 | I'm having a bad day OK. | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | | Tue Sep 13 1994 22:37 | 4 |
| Sorry ,I didn't mean to try to beat your record.
Please accept my deepest apologies for any distress this may have caused you ;-)
Peter.
|
33.1649 | | GENIE::GOODEJ | | Wed Sep 14 1994 11:13 | 5 |
|
James, are you quite sure its just the ManU supporters that are
avoiding you like the plague???? 8-)
JBG
|
33.1650 | Eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasy | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Wed Sep 14 1994 13:28 | 4 |
33.1651 | | GENIE::GOODEJ | | Wed Sep 14 1994 13:38 | 4 |
|
OK JF, I've got the phone in my hand.......now what ??? 8-)
JBG
|
33.1652 | Three steps to being a Leeds supporter. | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | | Wed Sep 14 1994 13:45 | 11 |
|
O.K JBG ,
Next step:
Proceed to bang youself on the head with the phone ( very hard ) until you are
semi-conscious and/or brain dead.
You will soon find yourself agreeing with everything James has written ;-)
Peter.
|
33.1653 | | GENIE::GOODEJ | | Wed Sep 14 1994 13:51 | 9 |
|
Peter,
I've now got one hell of a headache.....but I still don't agree
with everything James said. 8-)
JBG
Ps haven't got a spare handset have you - mines bust!
|
33.1654 | Oops | XSTACY::JLUNDON | <A HREF="http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html"> | Wed Sep 14 1994 13:59 | 6 |
| Sorry Peter,
I will desist from posting anything that might upset any MUFC supporters in
this topic. I admit I might have gone too far.
James.
|
33.1655 | | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | | Wed Sep 14 1994 14:00 | 11 |
| Well seeing as you probably had a headache from reading his notes anyway I
wouldn't jump to conclusions and necessarily associate the symptoms with the
banginging the phone on head technique mentioned previously.
There are many Leeds fans who have sucessfully and without complaint lobotomised
themselves utilising this technique.
Don't give up yet. Borrow Jerry's phone and keep going !!!
Dr. Peter. Phd MD Dip.Help Sob.Tsb Mufc etc...
|
33.1656 | | GENIE::GOODEJ | | Wed Sep 14 1994 14:03 | 9 |
|
Peter,
talking of Jerry......he hasn't been seen all week.....and its your
fault! You told me to pass on the message from Una and now he's gone
into hiding. I don't think I'll be taking you're advice anymore thanks
a lot. 8-)
JBG
|
33.1657 | Dopey | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | | Wed Sep 14 1994 19:52 | 6 |
| I read on Ceefax last night that John Lukic had been released from
hospital after suffering concussion. How the hell did anybody know he
had suffered concussion? He looks a dopey sod at the best of times...
Quizzical of Highbury
|
33.1658 | MotM was Palmer by a mile.... | TRUCKS::SANT | comfortably numb... | Wed Sep 14 1994 20:50 | 21 |
|
I take a few days off and miss all the fun in here - typical!!
Full credit to Leeds for Sunday. We were lucky to still be in the
game when the ref gifted us a ridiculous penalty decision. 2-1 was
a robbery, we were getting humped about 4-0 at half-time on the
balance of the play.
Cantona did leave his foot in on I think McAllister but the ref did
well to diffuse the situation and everyone kept very clam imo... I
don't think baying for Cantona's head on a plate all the time does
anyone, least of all yourself, any justice...
United were not in the game until the last 10 minutes and could
have nicked a point. Imagine how you Leeds boys would have felt if
that had happened.....
Enjoy the win, look to the next game. We can take the beating, and
we'll be back....
Andy.
|
33.1659 | | UPROAR::LEMP | We danced the Lumbago till dawn | Wed Sep 14 1994 21:07 | 11 |
|
What do the Leeds supporters think of Palmer now? Some of the previous
few notes seem to suggest he's fitted in well.
It's funny how he never wanted to play centre half for Wednesday but
when Leeds come along he changes his tune. How much are you paying him
BTW. (disclaimer: these last two sentences are in no way related, or
intended to be).
Paul.
|
33.1660 | 10 x 0 = 0 ;-) But credit where credit is due ! | BERN01::BOLGER | Weather's here,wish U were beautiful | Wed Sep 14 1994 22:56 | 22 |
| I'm just here for a brief visit but I have two things to say.
1. Re Cantona's tackle.
My respect for Leeds in general, and MacAllister in particular
increased ten-fold upon seeing his reaction to the challenge. In case
anyone missed it, he got up took Cantona's hand and helped him off the
ground and then walked away from the Ref with his arm around Cantona's
shoulder. A bit more of this kind of sportsmanship wouldn't go astray
in any team !
2. Re: Peter's suggestion that JBG should hit himself over the head
with a telephone until Brain-Dead :
I fear it's too late, he's been doing a striking impression of a
decayed cabbage for years now.
Jerry.
|
33.1661 | The Lows after a brief High | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Thu Sep 22 1994 14:36 | 6 |
33.1662 | | TRUCKS::SANT | comfortably numb... | Thu Sep 22 1994 15:39 | 4 |
|
I was waiting to read James's account first, Brian.
Andy.
|
33.1663 | Where is Mansfield again.... ?? | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Thu Sep 22 1994 17:07 | 10 |
| Hmmm....
Looks like Leeds & DEC are in the same boat at the moment.... both
will have brief highs and long lows this season...
Its also interesting that DEC has sponsored or provided the
computers for the new Leeds United score board.. I wonder where all the
"free" tickets have gone??? ;->
Rick.
|
33.1664 | Groan... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | <A HREF="http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html"> | Thu Sep 22 1994 17:16 | 1 |
| Need I say more...
|
33.1665 | | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Just another Day!! | Thu Sep 22 1994 20:11 | 1 |
| So that's where the noise is coming from!!!!
|
33.1666 | Where are the excuses? | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | | Wed Oct 05 1994 11:52 | 1 |
|
|
33.1667 | Clueless | XSTACY::JLUNDON | <A HREF="http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html"> | Thu Oct 06 1994 12:10 | 6 |
| re .1666
There are none. We were beaten by a team who knew what they wanted to do, and
did it! We didn't. Life goes on ;-(.
James.
|
33.1668 | Hello? Is there any body in there? Just nod.. | TRUCKS::SANT | Feed me, Seymour!! | Thu Oct 27 1994 16:22 | 4 |
|
Bit quiet in here lately, lads.
Andy.
|
33.1669 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | | Thu Oct 27 1994 16:32 | 3 |
| Well they've hardly had a lot to shout about have they?
Stuart
|
33.1670 | Will Leeds ever win a cup game at home? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Which Space Corps Directive ? | Fri Oct 28 1994 05:29 | 4 |
|
Well we've got McAllister under contract until 1999 now which is
the highlight of the season so far ... plus that home win over
Manchester_we're_not_bothering_with_anything_except_Europe United
|
33.1671 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Sun Oct 30 1994 18:37 | 9 |
| >Well they've hardly had a lot to shout about have they?
Leeds 2 - Man Utd 1...
What else is there to shout about... :->
Rick.
|
33.1672 | | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Mon Oct 31 1994 20:58 | 18 |
| It's quiet because we are playing crap..... The Mansfield result knocked the
stuffing out of Leeds.
Anyone see the Leicester game on Sky Sports ? The first 20 minutes seemed to
be all Leicester. They played well and didn't let Leeds settle. As the game went
on it got better and a 2-1 win, I felt was about right.
I've heard rumours from Elland Road about Wilko being a bit of an alki. I never
believed them until the Leicester game after match interview. What the bl**dy
h*ll was Wilkinson on about ? He was p*$$ed..... He looks like going the same
way as Cloughie......
Saints 1 Leeds 3
A well deserved victory apparently. Pity, I couldn't get a ticket cos it was
all sold out. Anyone got a match report ?
Brian
|
33.1673 | Ipswich 2 - 0 Leeds United | GENIE::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Wed Nov 02 1994 12:53 | 8 |
| > It's quiet because we are playing crap..... The Mansfield result knocked the
> stuffing out of Leeds.
What, then, did Ipswich knock out of you last night ? They seem to be
pulling off some rather unexpected results this season !
Jerry.
|
33.1674 | Bogey team.... | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Wed Nov 02 1994 17:11 | 6 |
| Ah, but Jerry, Ipswich is one of Leeds' Bogey teams...
But then so are Mansfield,
Oxford,
Sunderland, plus
<some third division teams which knocks us out of the FA cup next January>
|
33.1675 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Fri Nov 04 1994 18:13 | 3 |
| Lets hope we draw ManU so we can beat them again.. :->
Rick.
|
33.1676 | New Signing !!! | SUBURB::RUTHERFORDI | Alan Rough's Greatest Slips | Tue Nov 08 1994 14:21 | 6 |
| Any response from you Leeds supporters regarding the signing of Martin
Dahlin for 2.5m ? Who knows, you might start scoring a few goals once
he arrives !!
Ian.
|
33.1677 | Is this true? | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Tue Nov 08 1994 15:10 | 17 |
|
> Any response from you Leeds supporters regarding the signing of Martin
> Dahlin for 2.5m ? Who knows, you might start scoring a few goals once
> he arrives !!
What!!!
The first I've heard of this. True or wind-up?
If true it must ber good news for Leeds, but from a Swedish perspective
It's worrying that more and more of our internationals sign for
English clubs, who have a hard schedule and where the training methods
seem 30 years behind their time.
Anyway, hoping for the best,
Stefan
|
33.1678 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Tue Nov 08 1994 15:53 | 9 |
| Well according to the ever right Super Sun we've just signed him.. plus
Wilko is out of the country at the moment on "Business".. so it looks
like we must be going abroad to sign someone... other rumours include
Ruben Sosa is going to be signed instead of Dahlin...
RHI on the Leeds United Mailing List that the new super striking force
in English football is going to be Deano & Dahlin... Hmmm! :->
Rick.
|
33.1679 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Relax - I do believe it's working! | Tue Nov 08 1994 16:06 | 9 |
|
Dahlin and Sosa...now *that* would be something!! Forget the big
nugget Dean(o)....he's a cabbage compared to these two.
Trouble is, how long would it take for Wilkinson(o) to convert
these two wonderfully-gifted world-class strikers into no-hopers
treading the boards in the English Premier League? 8-)
Andy.
|
33.1680 | I bet Alex is just rubbing his hands with glee.... | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Tue Nov 08 1994 16:10 | 9 |
| >Trouble is, how long would it take for Wilkinson(o) to convert
>these two wonderfully-gifted world-class strikers into no-hopers
>treading the boards in the English Premier League? 8-)
Don't worry about it... we'll then go & sell them onto ManU for
half the price!! :->
Rick.
|
33.1681 | Dahlin - no news | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Wed Nov 09 1994 11:22 | 6 |
|
Nothing about Dahlin in the Swedish media. We'll see.
cheers,
Stefan
|
33.1682 | | BHAJI::SNEIL | J.A.F.O | Wed Nov 09 1994 13:50 | 116 |
|
Got this on inter-net....thought the leeds fans would enjoy it
---------------------------------------------------------
From r.s.s again and directed at a two-bob mob fae Manchester
_______________________________________________________________________
Could you support a team in the Pennines of Northern England ?
Have you got what it takes to Support Leeds, Man City or Trafford
United ?
Answer these questions to find out
I support my team because
a) I live nearby
b) I live nearby, but wish I didn't
c) I long for European nights, Wembley finals, Lots of media coverage and
basically my local team is shite.
Five years ago I supported
a) My local team
b) My local team
c) Liverpool
Watching my team
a) Has it's ups and downs
b) Is nothing but downs
c) Is great on my new TV
It's costly supporting my team because
a) we've gone all-seater
b) I keep betting on us at the Ladbrokes booth
c) Away shirts cost a bloody fortune these days
Since the Taylor Report on Safety at Football
a) I've not really noticed much difference
b) We're still playing crap
c) I've fixed a rope ladder to my bedroom window and bought a seatbelt for
my armchair
To see some action in Europe next year
a) We need to start scoring some goals
b) I've booked a Club Med holiday to Majorca
c) I'll be subscribing to Sky Sports
Keith Gillespie
a) is a blatant homosexual (nothing wrong in that !)
b) will enjoy himself against our defence
c) is on lots of posters on my bedroom wall
The sort of player who I'd like to see playing for us
a) would give 100% every match
b) would never sign in a million years
c) will sign if he's paid enough
Football Violence
a) is on the decline
b) is what I feel like at a quarter to five
c) is throwing your pizza box at the TV set.
Manchester is
a) A stinking slum and thank god I don't live there
b) A stinking slum, but it's home
c) A wonderful, beautiful place that I've never been to
A penalty is usually given
a) for a handball or a foul
b) All too frequently against us
c) When one of our players falls over
Your team narrowly loses the title to your deadliest rivals in a thrilling
final league game. Do you
a) Say "Never mind, there's always next year"
b) Stone the players coach and cry your eyes out for the next three months
c) Start supporting your deadliest rivals
Your team wins the title. Do you
a) Celebrate for a day or two then look forward to the following season
b) Wake up. Of course it had to be a dream.
c) Bore the pants off everyone with comparisons of the Brazil team of 1970
RSS is good because
a) I can slag other fans off
b) There are others equally as unfortunate as myself
c) I can display my ignorance to other fairweather fans
When I die
a) my ashes will be scattered over our pitch
b) we still won't have won anything
c) nobody will care
Mainly A's - You support Leeds
Mainly B's - You support Man City
Mainly C's - You make me puke
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|
33.1683 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Fri Nov 11 1994 16:01 | 1 |
| re .1680, you got any more like cantona?
|
33.1684 | Strachan for Oldham? | SAC::MAGUIRE_G | | Fri Nov 11 1994 17:36 | 9 |
|
Apparently the Oldham fans voted on a phone-in last night on who they
would like to replace Joe Royle and the dream ticket was Gordon
Strachan with Andy Ritchie as his assistant. Are there any rumours to
back up this suggestion in the local press in Leeds or is Strachan
happy where he is? Does he really eat that many bannans a day?
G.
|
33.1685 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Fri Nov 11 1994 17:38 | 4 |
| Strachan is going to be the coach at Leeds at the end of this season
with Wilko as teh general manager.. :->
Rick.
|
33.1686 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Fri Nov 25 1994 12:48 | 5 |
| I see that the FA have come to their senses at last and are playing
their first Engalnd game outside London for 29 years at Elland Road!
:->
Rick.
|
33.1687 | We'll send the U-21's to give you a chance :-) | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Fri Nov 25 1994 12:53 | 6 |
|
> I see that the FA have come to their senses at last and are playing
> their first Engalnd game outside London for 29 years at Elland Road!
> :->
Yep, against Sweden, in the "pre-Euro-96" competition, June (?) 95
|
33.1688 | | RTFM1::GENIE::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon - 761 4831 | Fri Nov 25 1994 13:00 | 6 |
|
>> -< We'll send the U-21's to give you a chance :-) >-
Please no, not if they're part-timers! 8-)
JBG
|
33.1689 | Elland Road - The Wembley of t'north | REOSV2::STRATFORDS | | Fri Nov 25 1994 13:33 | 6 |
| I thought that the FA were trapped in a deal with Wembley so that all
England internationals were played on the hallowed turf.
Have they announced ticket prices?
Stuart
|
33.1690 | Wilko out! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html | Tue Dec 06 1994 15:56 | 83 |
| From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"nigelb@gptcsta.demon.co.uk" "Nigel Barber" 6-DEC-1994
12:46:33.35
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: Concentrated doom
Well, what a mess. You know how after any half decent English footy
match at present the pundits always say, "What a great advert for
English football", in a pathetic attempt to cover up our quite obvious
inferiority. However, tonight you could imagine the foreign pundits
taking the overseas match feed and looking at the camera and saying
smugly, "Well, what a great advert for European football". And guess
what, they would be bloody right.
In short, the result notwithstanding, an awful match; a demonstration
of all that is wrong with English football. A match played at one
hundred miles per hour and one piece of skill per hour. From a distance
you could imagine two packs of hounds after a fox. In fact, what do I
mean imagine? It was blue hound pack versus white hound pack, and blue
hand pack won on set pieces. Awful. Thankfully, the pub silenced the
T.V. three seconds after full time, so I was spared Andy Gray's attempt
to convince us that is was a fascinating match. It was not; it was a mad
scrap that brought into sharp relief just how futile our ambitions of
any success this season really are.
The match started off with a bit of White pressure, until what seemed liked
the first Blue corner when the ball went in. In between was lots of mad
scrambling when not very much happened, except the odd yellow card and
display of studs etc. Everytime Everton had a corner there was almost
a goal. I have to admit, Everton's corners were the only bit of quality
in the match. I saw the Merseyside derby the other week and the only
thing that stuck in my mind was how dangerous the blue sides corners
looked. And tonight they were deadly. In truth it was the only significant
difference. In open play it was a formless shambles and Macca's corners
seemed to float in about as fast as a cup final balloon on a light summer
breeze. Even fat old Neville Southall had time to catch them. By contrast
Everton's ones whipped in almost every time; they were trouble, they
decided the match.
So that was the match. Three goals; two headed in from corners, the
third from a penalty awarded for a blatant Gary Speed handball from
another corner. So what did we have in reply? Err, give me a few hours
and I might come up with something. Then again I might say the truth
and just say, "Nothing, I'm afraid".
As I watched this on the idiot box in a pub, I will not bother with my
usual individual player assessments. It will suffice to say that the
team performance was awful. No linkage. No composure. No fire. No skill.
No point. No bloody point in turning up really.
I must admit until now I have been a Wilko agnostic, but I am now a fully
paid up member of the Wilko Out Party. Before the match there were the
interviews with the two opposing managers. Joe Royle gave a standard,
functional one; Wilko simply looked a completely spent force. With his
shorter hair, his pallid skin clinging to his skull-like features, his
every word sounded like a death rattle. It was so depressing, how can
this man, who the Grim Reaper would cross the street to avoid, inspire
and motivate a team to win a trophy. When asked why we had lost so many
away games he resorted to an old Clougie chestnut by saying we had
scored less goals than the opposition. Painful. The sooner the devil
claims his own the better.
If Old Nick does not do us a favour, junking Wilko will be a very
expensive business, as he signed a contract last year that lasts until
just before Judgement Day (am I being apocalyptic tonight or what?).
I am sure there are still a few Wilko fans out there who will say
how ungrateful we are etc. - was he not the man who rescued us from
our Second Division nightmare? Indeed us he was, but that is no reason
to deify the bloke. I think a good analogy would be Winston Churchill
and the Tories after World War II - "Thanks for winning the war,
making all those super speeches and V signs etc. Winston, now bugger
off, we have a country to run."
As I now see it (through slowly sobering eyes) we need a new manager. We
need zest. We need a right old kick up the backside. We need a bloody
miracle.
Yours,
Nigel Barber.
P.S. Happy Christmas everyone! (Always sweeten the bad medicine with a bit
of sugar eh?).
|
33.1691 | | UPROAR::LEMP | We danced the Lumbago till dawn | Tue Dec 06 1994 16:54 | 9 |
| What a bunch of ungrateful gits. Wasn't it only last night that the
commentator told us that Noel Whelan has been named this months most
promising youngster in Yorkshire. What more do you lot want.....
Paul.
BTW on a more serious note, any more news about Wilko being on the
sauce or was that just a vicious rumour?
|
33.1692 | Wilko is on the way out? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html | Wed Dec 07 1994 12:53 | 22 |
| Paul,
I've no problems with either Deane or Whelan at the moment. They are
both playing as well as can be expected given the service they are
getting from their midfield support. What I personally have problems
with is the manager and his attitude towards team morale, selection,
and tactics. He has been constantly outwitted away from home this
season and has seemingly refused to try and rectify the situation. His
continued faith with Wallace and Speed is to say the least mystifying
and at worst downright criminal. Neither player on Monday night
seemed to have the appetite or the enthusiasm to play for the team. I
think both deserve to be "rested".
In the mailing list the manager is getting a lot of stick, rightly so,
for many of his failings. He is primarily being got at for his lack
of tactics vis a vis away form and his failure to motivate the players
to do the job for him.
Leeds at the moment are listless and most of us are pointing the
finger at the manager, rightly or wrongly.
James.
|
33.1693 | | UPROAR::LEMP | We danced the Lumbago till dawn | Wed Dec 07 1994 13:20 | 10 |
| James,
It's pretty much the same situation about 30 miles down the M1. Some of
the selections have been a complete mystery and the natives are getting
restless. Mind you, in The Year Of The Managerial Boot it wouldn't
surprise me if there are a few more casualties. Wilkinson and Francis
spring to mind. Also a certain Scotsman may be shown the door if a
motley crew of part-time kebab salesmen can beat the WBC tonight.
Paul.
|
33.1694 | Not winning EC <> Premiership mid-table ! | GENIE::BOLGER | Funny Scotty,now beam down my clothes! | Wed Dec 07 1994 14:28 | 30 |
| Paul,
Regardless of tonight's results I can't see Mr. Ferguson getting the
sack. The fact remains that he has helped his team bring home the last
two Premiership titles and an FA Cup. United are currently lying in
second position 1 point off the pace in spite of the enforced team
instability due to injuries and suspensions (which I know every team
goes through occasionally, it's just that it's our turn now !).
I accept fully that Fergie has made serious errors of judgement in some
of his team selections, but then if he could pick "Schmeichel Parker
Bruce Pallister Irwin Kanchelskis Ince Keane Giggs Cantona and Hughes"
in every game and they were all on top form then anyone could do the
job. With the injury problems at the moment, the experience gained by
the youngsters in the CCC is proving very valuable (hopefully, it will
do the trick tonight also !).
Now is most certainly not the time to get rid of him. If he never knew
before he knows now that he need to bring in some good quality English
players to reduce his dependence on the "foreign stars". Whether they
come from the youngsters or have to be bought in remains to be seen
(although I seriously believe we need to buy in a good striker and let
Sparky move back deeper into midfield).
Anyway, in case I haven't made myself clear :->
Leave Fergie alone and let him get on with the job of getting us back
into Europe for another try next year.
Jerry.
|
33.1695 | Even Jerry's a bit jumpy today... | UPROAR::LEMP | We danced the Lumbago till dawn | Wed Dec 07 1994 14:39 | 14 |
| > -< Not winning EC <> Premiership mid-table ! >-
Jerry,
Nah, you need a couple of brackets in there.
Not (winning EC <> Premiership mid-table)
That's better.
Yours in boolean logic fun,
Paul.
|
33.1696 | I still think Fergie should stay ... ;-) | GENIE::BOLGER | Funny Scotty,now beam down my clothes! | Wed Dec 07 1994 15:56 | 17 |
| Paul,
Thanks for the boolean correction.
I'm not jumpy today. However, if both United and Goteborg (my second
favourite team of all time, honest ;-}) win tonight then I will be
jumping and utterly s**tfaced !
On the other hand I won't be holding my breath. In fact, with the way
we've performed so far in Europe it might be just as well for us to
forget it (it's much easier to forget things when you have no choice !)
for this season to avoid really ruining both our reputation and that of
English football. I do however hope that we put up a decent
performance tonight just to undo some of the damage from the last two
games.
Jerry.
|
33.1697 | | REOSV2::STRATFORDS | | Wed Dec 07 1994 16:09 | 7 |
| Jerry
Lets face it the Greatest Football Team in the world are up sh1t creek
without a paddle. Even if Goteborg win, the kebab crew will "do" the
G.F.T. Still there's always next year, eh ;-)
Stuart
|
33.1698 | Radio 5 here I come ..... | GENIE::BOLGER | Funny Scotty,now beam down my clothes! | Wed Dec 07 1994 20:39 | 3 |
| Thanks for the kind words, Stuart !
Jerry. ;-)
|
33.1699 | Arsenal 1 - Leeds 3... | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Sun Dec 18 1994 14:00 | 7 |
| Well this was a scrappy match.. the best part of the match was the
chanting of the Leeds & Arsenal fans.... but at the end of the day who
really cares how you get the results... at the end of the season its
just the number of points & goals that you've got which decides whether
we get into Europe.. :->
Rick.
|
33.1700 | Arsenal result -) | XSTACY::FUNBOX::jlundon | Conferencing for Windows | Mon Dec 19 1994 20:03 | 7 |
| Great result though Arsenal are going through the horrors at the moment
and Leeds just hit them at the right time!
Hope this works as I'm posting from my PC via the notes client for Windows
:-). Some of us have all the luck, I suppose!
James.
|
33.1701 | | GENIE::BOLGER | Funny Scotty,now beam down my clothes! | Mon Dec 19 1994 21:31 | 11 |
| > Hope this works as I'm posting from my PC via the notes client for Windows
> :-). Some of us have all the luck, I suppose!
> James.
Being a Leeds fan teaches you to appreciate the little things in life,
I suppose !
Personally, I'm quite happy with my VT52 ;-)))
Jerry.
|
33.1702 | Going for .2000 :-) | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html | Tue Dec 20 1994 18:11 | 51 |
| As some of you might know some Leeds fans aren't happy with Wilko's performance
at this moment in time. The mailing list seems to be split down the middle
about him and his future at the club. At the moment I'm on the fence but it's
a bit sore...
James.
From: XSTACY::JLUNDON "A dream broken - September 4 1994 20-Dec-1994 1342
+0100" 20-DEC-1994 13:42:56.71
To: LEEDS
CC: JLUNDON
Subj: LU: The view from a Galway white!
I agree with some of the previous postings in saying that Leeds have
*not* turned the corner, yet. All you have to do is look at the team
we were playing on Saturday and the large slice of luck that we tapped
into for victory. Arsenal are going through the horrors at the moment
and we were extremely lucky to meet them when we did. We didn't play
like world beaters, as anyone at the match will probably attest to?
We did however, looking on the bright side, achieve a morale boosting
victory against a team that we've not had the best of records against
in recent years. Doesn't that ring a bell from earlier in the
season...yes we said the same after the scum victory in September and
what happen in the proceeding games? Losses at home to Chelsea, away
to Norwich, Ipswich, Coventry etc. etc. etc. Pretty poor after such a
fine start you have to agree?
People are deluding themselves if they really think that Leeds have
turned some mystical corner that will lead to greater things just yet.
I will be more convinced when Wilko - the team more properly - can
string together a consistent set of results both home and away, play
like a team that wants to play in the white of Leeds, and probably
most importantly for Wilko's own future at the club - achieve a good
cup run. Just remember back to last year, it could have been us in
the final against the scum if we played to our strengths, as I seem to
remember that Oxford were beaten by Chelsea and then Chelsea didn't
have many obstacles from there to the final. It could have been us
under different circumstances! Wilko's record finally in the FA cup
with Leeds is nothing short of disasterous. He's not gone past the
4th round with the club since he started managing them over 6 years
ago. This isn't just bad luck on Leeds part, is it?
Wilko isn't out of the woods yet and the pressure will be back on him
if we revert back to type in the next 6/8 games (losing to inferior
opposition and playing shitte away). Any criticism of him resulting
from this will - in my opinion - be deserved as there is certainly a
platform for a good team in the present squad. If this happens then a
new hand at the tiller will have to be called for, sooner rather than
later. It isn't as if he's not had a chance?
James.
|
33.1703 | Stealing personal names | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/personal/james/home.html | Tue Dec 20 1994 18:12 | 9 |
| Hey Sherlock,
What are you doing stealing JB's personal name?
Did you get his permission to do so?
What 'til I tell him!
James.
|
33.1704 | Stop actin' t'goat | JGODCL::SHERLOCK | Eeh bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Dec 21 1994 10:45 | 18 |
| Nah then James,
Sorry I have to admit I pinched it (beat you to it did I ?) ;-)
but after he left Dec and before he joined e-mail, should this
lead to any upset I'll change it to summat else.
B.T.W. I'll be going to both the Newcastle and the Liverpool games,
have already contacted JB on the web, will you be coming across
for either of these games ?
Newcastle games kicks off at 12 so it'll have to be an Apres football
pi$$ up in the Adelphi. Let me know what you're doing.
B.T.W. Have tried contacting Paul Cadd but to no avail.
Tim - The_silent_noter
|
33.1705 | Where are all the Yorkies? | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | John Hussey - Exiled in jocko land | Tue Jan 10 1995 15:14 | 12 |
| As Leeds supporters seem to have gone into exile (nothing to do with recent
form I hope ;-)) I thought I'd mention that they appeared to have signed a
striker who scores goal (shock!)
Apparently he is Anthony Yeboah from Eintrack Frankfurt and was one of the
lazy b*****ds who couldn't be bothered to turn up for training (Guadino was
another). He's reported to have signed a 1 year contract, with option for 2
more) and Leeds could pay up to 3.7m for him. This is all subject to a work
permit being granted as he's from Ghana.
Apparently he's scored 47 goals in 87 Bundesliga matches.
|
33.1706 | The Neanderthals from Leeds are called Tykes | UPROAR::LEMP | There ain't no sanity clause | Tue Jan 10 1995 17:02 | 9 |
| > <<< Note 33.1705 by AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 "John Hussey - Exiled in jocko land" >>>
> -< Where are all the Yorkies? >-
You'll find some in note 43.
Yours helpfully,
Paul.
|
33.1707 | Still, he wiz a wee Aberdeen Ba......... | KIRKTN::CDOUDIE | Perfect '9' or bust... | Tue Jan 17 1995 08:58 | 14 |
| Gordon Strachan has finally hung up his boots due to a persistent back
injury, being 38 didn't come into it or that the new EEC directive that
banana's must be at least 5 inches long and making them too heavy for
the wee man too lift.
Reports that Gary McAllister gave him a punt up so he could reach the
nail were quashed as another vicious rumour started by a 'SUN'
reporter........8*)
But seriously, a great player, remember his goal against Germany in the
World Cup when we took the lead (Scotland), and he hooked his leg up on
the hoarding 'cos he wiz too wee to jump over........
colin
|
33.1708 | | UTRTSC::WARD | | Tue Jan 17 1995 19:18 | 4 |
| Yes - a great player - a significant part of TGFTITW, managed by
Alex Ferguson ... Aberdeen ..
Ray
|
33.1709 | Great report from the game last night :-) | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 18 1995 15:09 | 64 |
| From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"nigelb@gptcsta.demon.co.uk" "Nigel Barber" 18-JAN-1995 12:02:17.11
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: LU: A cup shock ....
MIGHTY WALSALL HUMBLED BY MINNOWS LEEDS
Leeds 5, Walsall 2 (aet)
By Gobshite O'Cliche from Elland Road.
In one of the biggest F.A. Cup Third Round upsets in recent years cup
giants Walsall were knocked out by cup no-hopers Leeds United. Tiny
Leeds, who play in front of average league gates of a mere 34,000, were
never behind and eventually won through with an extra time hat-trick
from bargain signing Philomen Masinga.
The match was nearly called off however, as the aging Elland Road floodlights
failed after only five minutes of play, but the tie was rescued by some
quick thinking by the groundsman who shoved a two pence piece in the fuse
box to restore light.
Afterwards the Leeds players, all part timers, were ecstatic. Midfielder
Gary Speed, who is a model in real life said, "The lads can't believe it.
You watch Match of the Day all these years and then one day you're on it,
beating a giant club like Walsall. The grandkids will never believe me."
When asked about the 4th round tie at home to Oldham, the manager Howard
Wilkinson, an undertaker in real life, said a light load of old bollocks,
so I asked Gary Speed again. He said, "Well naturally the lads are a bit
disappointed not to get another big club. We would have loved to draw
Wrexham or Swansea to claim another famous scalp, but we'll just take
every games as it comes and it's all credit to the lads ....." (enough
of that, Ed).
Until the next cup tie, Leeds return back to the drudgery of the little-known
F.A. Carling Premiership, where they play ex-prison team Leicester.
As a footnote, Leeds' scalp hunting has made little impression on the bookies,
who still make them 100,000,000-1 outsiders. Pretty generous odds, if you
ask me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Back in the real world, all I can say is, "Thank God for that!". You never
know, this could be The Turning Point of the Season (Tm.), bit like Mark
Hughes scoring that heart-breaking equaliser in the F.A. Cup last year.
On the down side, the Sun today reports that the Yeboah deal could be
scuppered by work permit problems, saying that the DoE is not convinced
that the deal is not a loan in heavy disguise. (Ranting head on) I ask
you what the f**k is wrong with this country? In any decent country a
quick backhander, or a dead horse's head at the bottom of the bed, and
Bob's yer uncle - a work permit, no problem. But in good old, fair Britain
it all has to be done by the book. If an official so much as accepts a bag
of Cheese and Onion crisps without declaring them it is a sacking offence.
Jeeessuss Chrissst!! (Ranting head off).
Of course, this could be paper scaremongering to create a "story", but
knowing our recent transfer record expect the worst.
Sorry to end on a downbeat note, but we need to be informed.
Nigel Barber (not feeling as elated as I should be).
|
33.1710 | Another - more realistic - match report | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 18 1995 15:46 | 106 |
| From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"gburnage@natcorp.ox.ac.uk" "Gavin Burnage" 18-JAN-1995 12:37:39.91
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: Leeds v Walsall
Great game last night, just like the first one at the Bescot stadium.
A credit to both teams. The atmosphere was good, due in no small
measure to the away fans bouncing around in the south stand, but our
lot were good as well, and if Becks Paul and myself shouting didn't
come over on Radio 5, I'll eat my programme.
Wilko's programme notes said "I ask you, the fans, to get behind the
lads to give them a lift, they won't be lacking in effort", and I
think we did it.
They nearly scored twice in the first four minutes so we turned the
Magnificent New East Stand lights off for a bit. Walsall fans started
singing "what a dump, what a dump, what dump", and eventually after
someone changed a bulb the lights came back on again. Deano came out
and scored in a goalmouth scramble. They got one back after a dodgy
tackle on the edge of the area led to a penalty. Was it outside the
area? Possibly; anyone seen it on the box yet? This was a cup tie, so
David Wetherall ran up and got one with his 'ead. Half-time was 2-1,
but really should have been more in favour of Leeds, tho there were
missed chances by both teams. And at 2-1 up, we should have been more
forceful and positive; there was a lot of stroking the ball around at
the back and midfield, as if building up to some striking climax but
mostly it just didn't come. As with a lot of Leeds play this season,
this phase of the game along most of the second half can best be
described as "inconclusive".
Carlton had a night he'd rather forget. The referee took a dislike to
him right from the start, and booked him fairly rapidly for something
I didn't see, heartlessly ignoring his outstretched "but ref" arms and
distressed flapping ears. He took it to heart somewhat and proceded to
pass the ball to random points on the pitch and tottter around like a
confused baby giraffe, all of which naturally caused some frustration
amongst the faithful. After a great half-season I suppose he's
entitled to a few off-games; he certainly doesn't lack commitment.
Anyway, Wilko brought on Radebe who looked very much at home and in
control.
Their second goal was a bizarre one. If I'd been sat in my normal kop
seat instead of the East Stand I might have understood what happened.
Wetherall got into a tussle with a Walsall player charging down on
goal. There was a long, slow shot on goal which drifted past a
stationary Lukic. Only explantaion we could think was that it had
taken a deflection; teletext said it was a Wetherall own goal.
The second half ended badly. Leeds were looking increasingly scrappy;
nothing was going for us, and it was beginning to look like one of
those cup nights again. But they kept at it. The defence of
Worthington, Wetherall, Pembo, and Kelly looked reliable, though
occasionally worried by the runs which Walsall frequently made at the
middle of them. Speed looked good. Deano ended up on the wing a lot as
usual. Whelan was back, and played skillfully, taking on and beating
loads of 'em, as did Wallace. It wasn't, thank goodness, another of
those unremitting long high ball nights. But at the end Walsall were
looking the likeliest to sneak a win, despite two or three more "how
did that stay out??" efforts from Leeds.
Extra time strated with Masinga coming on for Wallace. He soon got
going, and scored a well-worked goal just before half-time, and got
booked for poncing around behind the goal (and in front of the Walsall
fans). One from a corner in the second half, and then a beautifully
measured lob of the keeper after breaking down the left rounded up a
great hat-trick. We wanted him to get four.
Walsall were good. They will be pleased with both their performances
against us. "We are going up" they sang at the end, and I hope they
do. I'd rather have them in the Prem than the likes of Ipswich Town
who are so boring toothache seems pleasureable in comparison to
watching them. They ran at us all night, their winger (no. 11, ?)
especially, but got knackered at the end. Fans were good too, and may
have had a point when they sang "you only sing when you're winning" at
the home crowd.
So, some sympathy for them, but in the end we won well, and it felt
great. All in all it was a cracking cup tie, ultimately well worth
the submarine journey up the M1, making up for Saturday's drab stuff.
LEEDS SCORE FIVE IN CUP CRACKER would be my headline; I hope it means
we've got the scoring habit again.
And I've discovered why there's so little sound out of the East Stand:
they all clap with nice padded gloves on. It sounds more like a mob
throwing snowballs at a wall than applause. Still, what with all the
kids, both young and old, in there, it felt a lot less cynical a place
than the kop (of late at any rate).
Gav
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33.1711 | | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Sammy Chung's Scarlet Army | Wed Jan 18 1995 17:10 | 6 |
| The FA are probably whinging about the Yeboah trade being a loan in disguise
because that's just what Villa did with Nii Lamptey. If our crap attempts to
sign a complete no-hoper stop you bringing a class act like Yeboah to the
Premiership then it would be a shame.
Mike
|
33.1712 | Yeboah has reportedly been granted a work permit - and about bloody time too! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Jan 19 1995 16:02 | 0 |
33.1713 | Food for thought? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Jan 23 1995 19:41 | 59 |
| From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"mph@violet.fap.npl.co.uk" "Mark Humphries MCIPS" 23-JAN-1995
16:36:58.80
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: Scum/Sky strike again
Well, as anyone who saw the BBurn goal yesterday will tell you - another
outrageous decision goes FOR scum when they are live on sky. I wonder if
they get equally bent decisions when not on sky?
Ill start the list, others feel free to chip in, and maybe when we think its
done post it to rss?
Leeds. Brian Deane brings down ince 5 yards outside box. "penalty"
Coventry. Player falls over and brushes scholes' leg outside box. "penalty"
"player sent off"
Blackburn (1). Berg tackles Sharp in box, clearly wins ball. "penalty"
"sent off".
Blackburn (2). Sherwood scores with header on 90 mins. "disallowed for push"
Sheff Utd. Bruce kicks Blake, brings him down in 6 yrd box. "play on"
Sheff Utd. Cuntona kicks one of their players, who reply by cuffing him
round the ear. Sheff Utd player "sent off" Referee "never saw Cuntona kick".
Thatll do for now. Theres one major bad decision which goes for scum
virtually every match on TV. They always go on about how good scum are at
playing vs 10 men. So would you doing it every other week.
Dunno about needing a 3rd referee, what we need for scum games is *1*
referee who isnt bent. F*ck me - imagine the sort of shit Revie would have
got if these sort of decisions went FOR Leeds back then? We get accused of
bribery for LOSING all the crucial matches.
mph
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|
33.1714 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Relax - I do believe it's working! | Mon Jan 23 1995 20:07 | 7 |
|
Is that really the standard of discussion/communication on the
wonderful world of internet?
What a sad, empty life, to harbour so much bitterness and anger...
Andy.
|
33.1715 | The Million Pound Man | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Mon Jan 23 1995 20:26 | 4 |
33.1716 | i hate the mancs and my life isnt sad and empty | COMICS::HAWLEYI | I...AM...A...HORSE! | Mon Jan 23 1995 20:31 | 10 |
|
I agree with you Andy, but the depth of feeling against manchester united
is not purely consigned to the internet.
Brian Long reckons its all "swings and roundabouts" as regards
Blackburn recent results, but it seems to be all "swings" for the mancs.
For anyone who is reasonably passionate about football and their team,
this sort of thing starts to grate on the nerves a little.
Ian.
|
33.1717 | Stop Manc Manipulation | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Jan 24 1995 12:25 | 22 |
| I have to agree with -1. Some of the decisions that have gone Manc's
way this year almost defy belief. It is also very irksome that most
of the media absolutely fawns over the team. Take for instance The
Times who yesterday initiated a competition for 30 Manc strips. What
are they playing at? I would have thought that it would be only fair
for the newspaper to offer 30 strips of the winners choice, not just
Manc strips. We are not all Manc supporters, believe it or not. I
suppose the newspaper in question is trying to go downmarket a bit
:-).
Maybe we are jealous but I want to see fairness, and in my mind a lot
of the media hype around Manc isn't fair and is dulling the youth of
today into being Manc morons of tomorrow! I like to see diversity in
fans' preferences, but this all out assault on the senses of young
fans in most nauseating (I think all non-Manc fans will heartedly
agree with me here).
I think I will have to start a campaign:
"Stop Manc Manipulation of the Young Minds of Today".
James.
|
33.1718 | back contributing again | COMICS::HAWLEYI | I...AM...A...HORSE! | Tue Jan 24 1995 12:47 | 20 |
| ...and I will join it!
Local smaller clubs are only going to suffer if the children of their
traditional supporters decide to support a club 200 miles away
(Y.I.K.I.S.A.C.2.H.M.A.A.W!) just because they have a couple of
"doe-eyed cuties" playing for them (for the girls) and because its just
plain cool to wander round looking like Fred the Red (for the boys).
It all hype and its sickening to the rest of us, watching the mancs
turn in profits that could buy some smaller clubs purely from
merchandising. Every time they start to slip in the league they just
have to bring out a new shirt and they can go out and buy Hristo
Stoichkov.
I'm not saying that if it was OUR team, we wouldnt be giggling smugly,
but hey, youve got to allow us the freedom to scream in abject despair.
Ian.
|
33.1719 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Relax - I do believe it's working! | Tue Jan 24 1995 13:18 | 18 |
33.1720 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Tue Jan 24 1995 13:47 | 39 |
| Re: previous entries
Refs decisions - please let's remember that it is the refs giving these
decisions. It is *NOT* through any influence by Utd players. Most of
the matches cited in the earlier entry were *AWAY* from Old Trafford ie
not influenced by the Utd crowd. The refs have made their decisions
based on what they or their linesmen have seen. There was no
complaining after the Blackburn "goal", no faking/diving after the
Sheffield slap - stop letting your prejudice get in the way.
Profits - why shouldn't Utd capatalise on their success ? Is it more
acceptable for young lads to be running around in San Francisco 49ers
tops, or Chicago Bulls gear, etc etc ? There is currently a market for
sportswear. Utd are exploiting that market better than anybody at the
moment. When Liverpool start winning things again, the same will
happen with them.
Supporters - I have been going to Old Trafford for over 25 years, and
there has always been a massive following from all over the country.
This is *NOT* new. It may be convenient for people to point to this
"non-Manchester" support as being in someway linked to their current
success, but this is "mostly" untrue,
Newspapers fawning over Utd - yeah right ! Are these the same papers
that slated Utd for the majority of last season over their poor
disciplinary record ? Are these the same papers that adored Liverpool
for 20 years ? Are these the same papers that were drooling over
Newcastle (rightly so !) at the start of this season ?
ManUtd strips as newspaper prize - ooh, we really are getting to the
bottom of the barrel on this one. I suppose I should be offended
because the Big Breakfast is offering people a chance to win Liverpool
home tickets all this week. No choice of tickets - just Liverpool.
Gosh, that got me hot and bothered this morning !!!!
Ah well, back to work ...
Dave
|
33.1721 | theres only one marky lawrenson | COMICS::HAWLEYI | I...AM...A...HORSE! | Tue Jan 24 1995 14:07 | 11 |
33.1722 | heated conversations - back to the old days | COMICS::HAWLEYI | I...AM...A...HORSE! | Tue Jan 24 1995 14:24 | 41 |
|
Dave>
1. Refs decisions.
not getting into it, except to say that i recall you lot moaning
about the treatment of other clubs as anfield not so long ago.
2. Profits.
> There is currently a market for sportswear.
> Utd are exploiting that market better than anybody at the moment.
Couldnt have put it better myself, Dave.
Exploiting is the operative word in this statement. 6 strips? 3 years?
Utd is a business, not a football club, with a bigger responsibility to
its shareholders than to its fans. Martin Edwards said as much on TV
the other day.
3.Supporters.
i'm sure youd like to think that the support has always been massive.
but on THIS scale? I think not.
Still, im not so bothered about the amount of support, better them than
arsenal, at least the mancs play football.
4.Newspapers fawning over Utd
I don't read the newspapers :-)
5.ManUtd strips as newspaper prize
Better than people actively buying them I suppose.
Ian.
|
33.1723 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Tue Jan 24 1995 14:27 | 9 |
| > 5.ManUtd strips as newspaper prize
>
> Better than people actively buying them I suppose.
Maybe the fans have finally woken up to the fact that they're being taken for a
ride, and nobody wants the new kit, so the only way they can get rid of them is
to give them away!!!! ;-)
Al
|
33.1724 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Tue Jan 24 1995 14:38 | 21 |
| Ian,
>>not getting into it, except to say that i recall you lot moaning
>>about the treatment of other clubs as anfield not so long ago.
You're right - however, as I stated, most of the recent events have
taken place away from OT.
>>Utd is a business, not a football club, with a bigger responsibility to
>>its shareholders than to its fans. Martin Edwards said as much on TV
>>the other day.
Then why spend 7m quid of the shareholders money on a player ? Martin
Edwards knows that he's currently sitting on a goldmine, but that it is
dependent purely on the success of the club. He will invest in the
club in order to maintain the current level of success - I hope !!!
Dave
|
33.1725 | and they used to chant "Fergie out!" | YUPPY::PANES | Selhurst Parklife is all a blur | Tue Jan 24 1995 14:51 | 6 |
| re supporters.
Lets not forget that 6 years ago , crowds of circa 26,000 used to turn
up at Salford's Tower of Babel.
Stuart
|
33.1726 | | 45769::EDWARDSD | | Tue Jan 24 1995 15:21 | 8 |
| re:-1
>>Lets not forget that 6 years ago , crowds of circa 26,000 used to turn
>>up at Salford's Tower of Babel.
Aye, the youth team were pretty good in them days !
Dave
|
33.1727 | Chantelle strikes again! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 25 1995 12:29 | 67 |
33.1728 | | UTRTSC::WARD | | Wed Jan 25 1995 13:03 | 4 |
| That's not even mildly amusing - delete it immediately before the mods
do ..
Ray
|
33.1729 | Please use common sense in transcripts... | RTOVC0::DCASSIDY | | Wed Jan 25 1995 13:12 | 5 |
|
Agreed Ray, this type of script is lower that the gutter and has no
place in this conference.
Dezzz.
|
33.1730 | ***** Censorship ***** | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 25 1995 14:15 | 9 |
| re .1727
Ah for crying out louds. Talk about censorship! If anyone
wants a copy of Chantelle's latest effort please mail me at
XSTACY::JLUNDON.
I want to know why it was hidden?
James.
|
33.1731 | Also... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 25 1995 14:16 | 6 |
| Also, It's only fair that the author is mailed to tell him/her
of the moderator's decision!
We do live in a democracy after all, or so I thought!
James.
|
33.1732 | It's a police state, James ... | AYOV29::DUTY93_MALC | All aboard the Skylark ... | Wed Jan 25 1995 14:23 | 6 |
|
And while they are about it I would like some dialogue concerning
Bristol City (if it's not too much trouble).
Malc.
|
33.1733 | weeve got andi cole | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Wed Jan 25 1995 14:28 | 1 |
| Was that Chantelles poem about Mark Hughes ?
|
33.1734 | Free speech for all.... | AYOV16::IREID | Our day will come...... | Wed Jan 25 1995 14:30 | 21 |
| And what about my songs??
OK....they were bad! :-)
|
33.1735 | Chantelle's peom. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 25 1995 15:13 | 11 |
| re .1733
It's a completely new poem about Yeboah. It's quite funny, no
matter what the moderators say :-).
The Voice has also admitted to being related to Chantelle FWIW!
To those of you who have mailed, I will deal with the multitudes
after lunch - yum.
James.
|
33.1736 | | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Just another Day!! | Wed Jan 25 1995 16:32 | 2 |
| James,
Shouldn't you be working After lunch??
|
33.1737 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 25 1995 17:43 | 7 |
| Re -1
Sorry boss :-(.
I won't do it again!
James.
|
33.1738 | Cantona the poet. | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Jan 26 1995 12:58 | 9 |
| Hear the latest on Cantona:
the fan he attacked was a manc fan who didn't like his latest poetry.
I feel that there is another Chantelle poem on the way.
Stay tuned to this topic as it will appear here exclusively.
James.
|
33.1739 | | 45769::GEORGEM | A jar of turkey seepage please. | Thu Jan 26 1995 12:59 | 1 |
| ...and get hidden 5 seconds later.
|
33.1742 | | 45769::GEORGEM | 15 feet of underfelted good luck. | Fri Jan 27 1995 17:56 | 1 |
| whoa! Deja vu!
|
33.1743 | | 45769::STRATFORDS | Sealclubbing: A big hit with pups | Fri Jan 27 1995 17:56 | 4 |
| Erm, call me old fashioned but doesn't the last one bear a remarkable
resemblance to the one that caused some ructions yesterday?
Yours inqusitively, Stuart
|
33.1744 | | GENIE::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon - 761 4831 | Fri Jan 27 1995 18:01 | 14 |
|
Re .1741
some people are just incapable of behaving with due consideration
for others. If someone in Digital with a chip on thier shoulder against
FOOTBALL notes readers was to read entries like these our conference
could be turned off. Why do you insist on trying to push our luck
Choppers? Just because you're here as a trainee & you don't give a damn
about anyone else? Some of us want to use the notes for the exchange of
ideas / results / news etc. The mod's have made it clear that cross
postings of a crude nature have no place in this conference. Does it
have to be spelt out any clearer??
JBG
|
33.1745 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Fri Jan 27 1995 18:04 | 4 |
| And in the Leeds note as well... anybody would think that Leeds fans
like this kind of thing... :->
Rick.
|
33.1746 | | AYOV16::IREID | Our day will come...... | Fri Jan 27 1995 18:15 | 5 |
| It has now been deleted. I forgot that it had been on already.
Sorry for any inconveniance(sp?) caused! :-)
Choppers
|
33.1747 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We can change... anything we want too... | Mon Jan 30 1995 10:54 | 9 |
| Well it looks like we can go for a hat-trick of wins over ManU this
year.... :->
I can hear the Leeds fans singing now...
"Where's ya frenchman gone...,
Where's your frenchman gone..."
Rick.
|
33.1748 | Very Quiet in Here | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Mon Feb 20 1995 20:59 | 17 |
33.1749 | Not a good day for Mr.Morrell by all accounts :-) | IOSG::STANDAGE | My hovercraft is full of eels | Tue Feb 21 1995 11:27 | 8 |
|
Not only "3-1 without Cantona" - but Rick had to part with a semi-crisp
tenner due to a side-bet. Poor guy looked rather distrought yesterday,
and he even managed an own goal on the astroturf.
Kevin.
|
33.1750 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Batfink & Karate vs Hugo A Go-Go | Mon Feb 27 1995 16:02 | 4 |
| I held my head up high when I handed over that 10 pound note... we have
our chance on the 1st April to make the score 2-1! :->
Rick.
|
33.1751 | Good run ... but for how long? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Bugs - R - Us | Mon Mar 20 1995 06:55 | 4 |
|
8 days, 3 wins (2 away from home!), 9 goals, 5 for Yeboah. Back
on the edge of UEFA qualification. Shame we've got Man Utd,
Liverpool, Blackburn & Newcastle in the next month.
|
33.1752 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cos I missed you... Yeah.... I missed you | Mon Mar 20 1995 12:50 | 3 |
| Piece of cake... If Liverpool can beat ManU then so can we.. :->
Rick.
|
33.1753 | Possible though... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Mar 21 1995 12:48 | 22 |
| Gidday,
It's going to be a tough "back 9" (well 10 actually) for us with our last
five away games against:
Man U
Newcastle
Liverpool
Nottm Forest
Spurs
I'd be happy with 6/7 points from those games with a win against any of the
five being very nice.
Our home form is iffy enough at the moment but I think we can probably win
4 of the 5 - Blackburn being the exception. Europe is still possible though
a bit remote unless we get substantial help from other teams above us i.e.
Liverpool to win the CCC and (choke!) Man U [or Spurs] to win the Cup.
We'll see.
James.
|
33.1754 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cos I missed you... Yeah.... I missed you | Wed Mar 22 1995 15:31 | 3 |
| Anymore on this story about Strachan going to Coventry??
Rick
|
33.1755 | confirmed | FORTY2::JONES | Neil | Wed Mar 22 1995 15:57 | 4 |
|
Its true. I heard Strachan and BFR talking about it on Radio 5.
Neil
|
33.1756 | \ | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cos I missed you... Yeah.... I missed you | Wed Mar 22 1995 16:18 | 4 |
| well.. its a shame really... he could have taken over from ol' Howard
but I wish him well... ( as long as he doesn't beat us!! :-> )
Rick.
|
33.1757 | | CHEFS::GEORGEM | The West is the Best | Wed Mar 22 1995 16:57 | 8 |
| Strachan is going to be BFR's 2nd in command, and will take over from BFR in 2
years time, on his "retirement".
Matt "Ceefax" George.
|
33.1758 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cos I missed you... Yeah.... I missed you | Thu Mar 23 1995 11:21 | 4 |
| Well.. instead of seeing Gordon out in style with a win... Leeds decide
to turn turtle and loose 3-0... Hmmmmm...
Rick.
|
33.1759 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | This is the rhythm of the night.... | Wed Mar 29 1995 12:49 | 7 |
| Anyone know if Leeds will get a cut of the 5.5 million for Eric Cantona
when ManU sell him on.... I wonder if we'd put a clause in his contract
about getting paid if ManU sold him for a profit....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1760 | ManU 0 - Leeds 0... 4 Points for the season! :-> | MARVIN::MORRELL | This is the rhythm of the night.... | Mon Apr 03 1995 13:42 | 3 |
| :->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Rick.
|
33.1761 | You're only one-season wonders ! | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Mon Apr 03 1995 13:52 | 2 |
| Good to see the Leeds "fans" showing their true colours with chants of
"Shearer" and "Dalglish" yesterday !
|
33.1762 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Pass the Babel Fish | Mon Apr 03 1995 14:34 | 15 |
|
re:
<<< Note 33.1760 by MARVIN::MORRELL "This is the rhythm of the
night...." >>>
-< ManU 0 - Leeds 0... 4 Points for the season! :-> >-
:->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Rick,
Do we take it that you are happy with yesterdays result?
Stuart
|
33.1763 | Oh... boy .. I would have laughed & laughed... | MARVIN::MORRELL | This is the rhythm of the night.... | Mon Apr 03 1995 14:38 | 4 |
| Yep... I couldn't be happier... except if that goal kick from Peter S.
had rebounded off Carlton Palmer & gone into the net..... :->
Rick.
|
33.1764 | | RTOVC0::DCASSIDY | | Mon Apr 03 1995 17:05 | 7 |
| >Good to see the Leeds "fans" showing their true colours with chants of
>"Shearer" and "Dalglish" yesterday !
And I suppose Manchester United Supporters would be Sooooooo
different.
Dezzz.
|
33.1765 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Mon Apr 03 1995 17:57 | 11 |
| In all the years Liverpool dominated English football, I can't recall
one occasion when Utd fans cheered for another team. I do remember
laughing my nuts off when Arsenal did the business at Anfield though !
Seriously Dezzz, I have spoken to "fans" of City, Leeds and Liverpool
over the last few seasons, and I have heard the same sh**e from them
all...They would rather see their own team relegated if it would help
Aston Villa/Blackburn (twice) win the league. Loooooosers !!!!!!!
Admittedly, the sane people contributing to this conference may think
this is all rather ridiculous, but these people are out there ! I
think a lot of them were in the Sheep section on Sunday.
|
33.1766 | | RTOVC0::DCASSIDY | | Mon Apr 03 1995 18:16 | 14 |
|
Mmmm, I've got to admit that cheering on another team is a human
reaction but a definite sign of jealosy. I was betwixt and between
yesterday whilst watching the match in relation to Liverpool getting
into Europe....I would prefer (I must be honest) to see United having
one last crack under Ferguson in the Champions Cup as I see them having
a better chance than Blackburn. Blackburn have had 2 games in
Europe..though admittedly the individual parts of the team a lot more.
United might miss out on what could potentially be a 'weaker'
Champions League next season....I won't go on...I'll first wait to hear
what you guys have on my other question re ECWC/UEFA...
Dezzz.
|
33.1767 | Wait a cotton picking minute | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Apr 04 1995 17:42 | 24 |
| > Seriously Dezzz, I have spoken to "fans" of City, Leeds and Liverpool
> over the last few seasons, and I have heard the same sh**e from them
> all...They would rather see their own team relegated if it would help
> Aston Villa/Blackburn (twice) win the league. Loooooosers !!!!!!!
I don't usually contribute to this notesfile but you have just forced
me to un-retire for a short while to comment on your recent note.
My comment: what a load of cobblers. Show me a Leeds, Liverpool, or
City fan who would prefer to see their own team get relegated (if it
would help MUFC lose a league) and I show you a supporter that doesn't
deserve to wear the colours of the team he/she is *supposed* to be
supporting.
I supported Leeds through all 8 years of their second division odyssey
and I can tell you that I would prefer to see MUFC win the league
*every* single year than to have to play teams like Grimsby ;-),
Carlisle, or Cambridge year in year out. Some people are spoilt
because they support teams that are constantly in the top division.
Ignore "fans" that tell you they'd prefer to see their own team go
down, as probably they are the same fan that will be wearing Blackburn
kit next year (no offence to the one real Blackburn fan out there).
Those kind of fans make me sick!
James.
|
33.1768 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Tue Apr 04 1995 18:19 | 5 |
| re:last
Is that "cobblers" because you don't believe me, or "cobblers" because
you think these "fans" are pillocks ? If the latter, then I couldn't
agree more.
|
33.1769 | Now we're all a little guilty.... | RTOVC0::DCASSIDY | | Tue Apr 04 1995 18:24 | 22 |
|
James,
I have to agree with most of what you say but he did say 'most
sane' people don't aspire to those masochistic tendencies (if that
statement in itself is not too over the top). I would prefer Wimbledon
winning the league than see Liverpool go down...(that would be my worst
nightmare !!).
I think it boils down to people 'saying what they mean and meaning
what they say'.....most people have a little hypocritical streak in
them whether its to induce a little fun into a situation (ala tongue in
cheek) right through to being totally cynical about the situation.
Why do so many folk watch the FA Cup Final....How many Leeds
supporters would be supporting Manchester United on May 20th if it meant
opening up a slot for Leeds United to go into Europe....Quite a lot I
should imagine....
Regards,
Dezzz.
|
33.1770 | Oi, Lundon, no! | FORTY2::FOWLERM | From Grimsby and proud | Tue Apr 04 1995 19:19 | 3 |
| Oh never mind. 8-)
Mike
|
33.1771 | | XSTACY::FUNBOX::jLuNdOn | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Apr 04 1995 20:46 | 7 |
| Re -1
Smoked you out!
Pillocks - the fans!
James.
|
33.1772 | Match report 1 - from mailing list | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Apr 05 1995 17:30 | 153 |
| This is not really a report as much as a description of the chants the fans
were singing at the match Sunday. Someone made the negative comment about
the Leeds fans that they were singing about Shearer/Daglish. Maybe by
reading this you get a better idea why?
James.
++
From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"gavin.burnage@language-centre.oxford.ac.uk" "Gavin
Burnage" 4-APR-1995 15:40:40.28
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: LU: What we did at Old Triffid
>Is there som'at wrong with my PC/University network/Gavs' bits/the
>internet, or is there just not much mail today.
My bits were as well as could be expected last time I looked, but there
did seem to be a list-prob yesterday, probably due to difficulties
with Oxford's mail machines. Apologies, for what it's worth, even though
I don't know exactly what I'm apologizing about.
I've now seen plenty of match reports due to the wonders of Sky
and dodgy landlords, but there did seem to me to be a problem with the
tv coverage in that sound booms were placed along the sides of the
pitch to pick up the groans of the red faithful, but not into the
corner to pick up the gleeful noises from the little White horde.
So to complete the picture of this happy day out, I thought I'd tell
you about some of the mindless chanting which went on. This is an off-beam
thing to do, I guess, but take it or leave it. In fifty years
this might get quoted in someone's sociology thesis.
Things started off with the usual "we are leeds". Frankly I don't blame
the Spurs lot for singing "you are leeds" back at us, whenever that was.
It's getting like a Bryan Adams record -- can't we think of summat else
once in a while?
There was a lot of "four nil, Barcelona" (you know, Pet Shop Boys
again) after that, which warmed them up nicely (their lot behind the
goal, to our right, that is). For some reason they stand and applaud
when we sing that line, as if we'd just said something witty rather
than taking the pish. They also resorted to various gorilla
imitations (rather good in many cases) when we stuck our LEEDSs up in
between their Un-i-teds.
What really got their red goatees the most was songs in praise of
Kenny Dalglish, and the several bouts of Shearer-worship we did. "Who
the f*ck do you support?" they screamed, faces as red and blotchy as
their geunuine replica shirts. And just to show we can do something
other than "we are leeds" when occasion demands, we replied "we're
leeds, and we're proud of it" at length.
All the usual stuff was aired -- we were marching on together again,
keeping the white flag flying high, Yorkshire's Republican Army we're
barmy wherever we go with friend or foe we are the YRA. There was one
sudden "we are the champions - champions of Europe", but it was
nothing compared to the maginificent 20 minute effort at Wimbledon,
and fizzled out all too quickly. In similar style there was a round
of "Sergeant Wilko's Barmy Army", which is the first time that's
been aired for yonks.
Mark Hughes got the inevitable Hyoosless chants, Andy Cole got "he
gets the ball, he does f*ck all" (with some justification; even Fergie
must have wondered about joining in the "what a waste of money"
bits). Peter Schmeichal should have got something for the splendid
clearance kick at Carlton which nearly rebounded back into the
goal. It would have been an all-time comedy classic, though Manu would
have whinged for ever about losing the title on the rebound. Songs
which would have been good: "boom bang-a-bang, boom bang-a-bang,
straight in his goal"
Pro-Leeds -- lots of Yeboah stuff, the usual Dee-nohs, Oh gary garies,
palmer-marijuanas etc etc etc. There's still no convincing song for
Yeboah, though the hava nagila (sp?) one is the best of a bad
bunch. For overseas readers it goes "Tony, Tony Yeboah, Tony Yeboah,
Tony Yeb-o-o-ah, OY". Good tune, splendid OY, but no prizes for lyrics.
"You're scum, and you know you are" was popular throughout the game
(tho not with me), but there were thankfully few aeroplanes and
runways mentioned, on both sides. In fact, they did as many aeroplane
imitations as Leeds did ... "some of them want to be abused" (Lennox,
A, 198?)
They were on dodgy ground with any mention of Eric Cantona, and were
foolish enough to try it on. "Ooh aah, eric cantona" was quickly
replaced by "f*ck off, eric cantona". But they persisted with the
original version, and eventually the Leeds slice of the ground was
full of people singing "Where is, Eric Cantona??" and looking round,
up, and down anxiously to see if the errant trawlerman was present
after all, distributing tins of tuna to the birds. But he wasn't. And
they just wouldn't tell us where he was.
I thought we should have gone for glory in the last part of the second
half. We were having a purple patch, but suddenly seemed content to
hold off. Wilko performed the protracted Ritual of Late Substitution
twice to kill time. Still, a draw at their place wasn't what they
wanted, and it was well on the way to what we wanted. As the match
drew peacefully towards its close, they grew quieter and we got
louder. More emotional tributes to Dalglish and Shearer came out, plus
a chant of "you're not champions any more" which is the one that hurts
the most (anyone else at Maine Road, three days after Rangers at home,
4-0 down?). They sang "you're gonna win f*ck all" at us, we sang it
back, only louder.
The whistle went, the Leeds went potty, the mancs went home in a bad mood.
There was more of all the same during the 20 minute wait to get out,
though including a brief Leeds run of "so f*cking easy, oh this is so
f*cking easy" which many will remember with pain from the cup-dump
with just 4 minutes on the board.
I'd never met Iain Mitchell till the Leicester game a week or so
back; now I seem to bump into him every match. It wasn't till
Sunday that I realised that he does look quite a bit like Statto :-)
He didn't seem very taken with the comparison! Sorry Iain!
Then Livehpewl won the league cup.
A bad day for the mankers in the red, but it was alright to be White.
Well done us.
See yous at Ippo, also Anfield: what gives with the Aintree meet???
Gav
(mature, well-rounded adult?)
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33.1773 | Match report 2 - from mailing list | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Apr 05 1995 17:31 | 211 |
| Nigel up to his old tricks again.
James.
++
From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"nigelb@gptcsta.demon.co.uk" "Nigel Barber" 3-APR-1995
19:43:27.88
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: LU: I have a UEFA dream
Well, for all of you that missed seeing the game because a pub with a
sympathetic landlord could not be found, I have the answer: snooker
clubs. For a mere [imagine a pound sign] 1.50 I sat in a nice plush
area with a 24-hour bar and watched the match on a projection TV.
Remember where you heard it first.
Here is my match report, although it comes with the caveat that my
impression of the game was filtered through Murdoch Vision and a
fuzzy projection telly. I was sober though.
GLAD TO BE OF DISSERVICE TO YOU
by Nigel Barber
Well, after the goof up at the City Ground could we avoid the Intertoto
nightmare and get our UEFA bandwagon (more like a beat-up old Volkswagen
really) back on the road whilst simultaneously denting the scum's title
hopes? The answers were justabout and justabout. Hurrah!
Wilko's warriors lined up approximately like this :
John "Helen Keller" Lukic
Fast Gary K. The Graduate Pembo Warrior Fast Tony D.
Carlton "Only half a Batty" Palmer Young Couzens
Rod "Keystone cops" Wallace God Deano
Yeeeboaaah
As can be seen, it was basically Wilko's latest favoured formation,
with the human stick insect running around in front of the defence
to make himself a right nuisance. I was glad to see Howard keeping
courage with his convictions and not falling for any of that fashionable
three centre-halves nonsense.
Gary Speed was out, suspended, so we were at full strength. Just joking,
luv ya really Gaz.
The match kicked off and a pattern soon emerged; Trafford had lots of
the ball, as we leaked possession in nearly all positions, but could
not find the final ball to break us down. We broke well and had several
half chances. Just before half time Schmeichel hit a clearance that
went straight into Palmer and almost rebounded into the net, only a
(un)lucky bounce on a divot saved the portly Dane from severe embarrassment.
In fact the ball did not bounce for us all game (in the right way, that
is).
At half time, Sky bombarded us with all sorts of match facts. God knows
why. Anyway, one of them said that Leeds had more shots on goal than
the scum, much to our amazement. As Mark Twain might have said, "There
are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and Sky Sports Match Statistics."
Keeping it goal free up to the interval gave me much hope, as we are
almost invariably a "second half" team, for some weird reason. Indeed
as the second half got underway, we did indeed play better and wasted
possession far less. The improvement in our play helped the entire
game as more spaces started to open up. Andy Cole missed a couple of
good chances at our end (well, at least he is consistent) and Schmeichel
pulled off a good reaction save from Wallace and managed to just knock
it out of the path on the oncoming Yeboah.
The game had come to life and both sets of fans were in good voice; the
glory hunters whined for a goal and the mighty Yorkshiremen sung stirring
songs such as, "You're gonna win fuck all". Ahh, it fair brings a tear
to my eye.
Trafford struggled to find an opening through our resolute defence, but
looked pretty devoid of inspiration without Hong kong Phooey Cantona.
Some of the closest shaves at our end came from Wimbeldon-style long
throw-ins into our penalty area from David Beckham - I told you they
were lacking in ideas,
We made a few more chances as the game opened up further but the best
ones fell to Wallace and Macca; neither of whom had brought their top
shooting boots along.
Towards the end, as 0-0 started looking a dead certainty, young Noel
replaced Deane and Granpa Worthington came on for Wallace. Predictably,
this made little impression on the game and before long (although it seemed
longer) the 90 minutes were up. The scum were pissed off and we were
pretty happy - let's be honest, a White-inflicted thrashing was never
on the cards.
Post match, Sky attempted to bore us into submission with yet more
scintillating match statistics and incisive match analysis from dull
guest pundits Kevin Moran (Moron?) and Graeme LeSux. Good ol' Howie
added a bit of entertainment with his usual post-match utterances
that made Eric Cantona's sound like a model of coherence.
Right, here comes the near-end-of-term reports for our unlikely lot.
John Lukic. Overall he had a good game, holding onto some fierce shots
very surely. Set pieces and long throw-ins were a bit of a worry though
and was nearly caught out when lingering way too long over a back pass.
Gary Kelly. An excellent defensive performance and did a superb job of
keeping the Wingnut Wonder Boy pretty quiet. Also had an amusing
altercation with Cole over a disputed throw in, carrying on the spat
that Pembo started in the Christmas match against Newcastle.
David Wetherall. Very solid defending indeed. He made himself a right
nuisance all match. So much of one in fact that Andy Gray chose him
as Sky's Man of the Match. Who am I to argue with the Caledonian Crap
Talker?
John Pemberton. See David Wetherall. Unless I am mistaken (very possible)
he miraculously avoided getting booked - a big plus.
Tony Dorigo. Good defending (bit of a pattern emerging here) but was
a bit poor coming forward. I hope this is only temporary.
Carlton Palmer. Half a Batty. Keh? Well, his tackling and ball winning
was excellent, as it should be with those telescopic pins of his. However,
his distribution was a bag of spanners - hence he is only worth 50%
of the Prodigal Son.
Andy Couzens. I nearly forgot this lad. The problem was that he looked
too much like Pembo on the big, fuzzy TV. However, I do not remember
him disgracing himself and the close ups kept showing him getting
patronising pats on the head from his older, grizzled team mates.
Therefore I am making the rash assumption that he did well.
Gary McAllister. Did not quite hit the heights we expect him to, but
he does have one or two excuses for this: a tiring trip to Russia and
still far too much responsibility in the midfield. The sooner he gets
another creative partner that can operate on his advanced wavelength
the better. Whoever it may be.
Brian Deane. Had a poor game. He simply does not have the technique to
get by defenders of the quality of Gary Pallister and so was largely
ineffective. Still a great asset in the air against most teams, but
not this one. He was eventually replaced by ......
Noel Whelan. Not on long enough to really give me the opportunity to
assess him. Did better with the ball at his feet than Deano, but then
so would I.
Rod Wallace. Kept himself busy and was involved in a lot of our best
movements. Unfortunaly the best chances fell at his feet, rather than
Yeboah's, and I know who my money would be on to get the ball in the
net. Ended up with the humiliation of being replaced by ......
Nigel Worthington. Hardly had a touch really. He probably only got on
the field as a time-wasting ploy by the Unhinged One.
Tony Yeboah. Never really had a chance to finish, so I cannot criticise
him for wasting any. He is good in build up play and is capable of
playing some excellent through balls, so he is more than just a finisher.
His time will come, I just hope he is still with us when it does.
So, to sum up, it was not the result we all wanted (25-0) but a pretty
pleasing one nonetheless, especially when it caused Spit Ferguson to
conclude that the title was getting beyond their reach. Moreover, with
the Spurs defence rediscovering their old bad habits (they lost 4-3 at
Southampton) we remain in sixth place. The cherry on the top is that
Liverpool's win the Coca-Cola Cup now makes our current league position
a UEFA berth (I think).
Nigel Barber (still slightly optomistic)
P.S. Here's an old joke (but still a funny one).
A burglar broke in Manchester City's trophy room at the weekend, removing
its entire contents. The police are looking for a man with a blue carpet.
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33.1774 | J'Accuse report | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Apr 05 1995 17:33 | 77 |
| From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"stuart@vax.ox.ac.uk" "Stuart Lee" 5-APR-1995
11:04:35.47
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: J'accuse MUFC
For those who didn't get to see it the much vaunted 'J'accuse Man Utd' was
aired last night on Channel 4. It was basically a half hour demolition of the
myth that the MUFC are the greatest thing to hit footie and shouldn't we all
love them by the columnist Hunter Munroe. I missed the opening so I'm not sure
if Munroe was a MUFC fan but judging by the digs he got in I've a feeling he
was but a well-miffed one.
The gist of it was that MUFC were ripping off their fans (megastores, shirts,
seat prices) etc. and this was a *bad thing*. There were some very good lines
in it particularly his closing remark about MUFC not winning much in the
seventies and eighties in comparison to all the money they spent. C*ntona got
an airing and we saw all his best "gallic flicks" on the opposition. Tom Doc
got on his high horse and ranted about spit and Man Utd ("At least in the old
days when you were robbed they had the decency to wear a mask"), and there was
a couple of twatty MUFC fans moaning on about how much it cost to get a seat
and they couldn't get in. One of these decided that it would be dead cool to
hold the interview on his hallway stairs with a cut-out from the Mirror about
Busby's death on the wall behind - he also seemed to think it would impress us
if he wore a hat and sunglasses indoors - where are their manners? There was
also a clip of that Kelly guy who appears on the Danny Baker radio show and
has done 6-0-6 a few times. Bit of a porker, eh?
On the whole an excellent piece of telly (nice work fella to the guy who
thought they should bring on a scouser to tell them about footie - bet that
pissed off the MUFC fans watching). Great digs about the number of shirts, seat
prices, over-exposure on telly, and so on. However, just to maintain a sense of
balance here I felt it was a bit rich having a go at the MUFC because of those
twerps who struggle up from Devon for each match rather than supporting Exeter
or whatever. Surely the people to have a go at here were the guys on the coach
not the club. Similarly, MUFC are overhyped I agree, but you can't really have
a go at them because kids all over the country support them. Again that's not
the clubs fault but the media (for the overhype) and the parents/kids for not
getting behind their local team. If the demand was not there the shop in
Leyton that was mentioned would not stock MUFC scarves. You can't make a law
about only supporting a team in your local area.
Isn't a bit like the criticism levelled at Leeds in the seventies about being
too hard? The point was that every team tried to be hard it was just that we
were better at it than others. Every team in the Premiership is selling its
soul on a daily basis, it's just that MUFC are doing it better and quicker, and
have a larger media backing.
The final cheery note is that it was agreed that this was going to blow up in
their faces. By overhyping the merchandising side, and overselling Old Pigsty
as some sort of Alton Towers to bring the kiddies and for yuppies to go and sip
champers they're digging their own graves. The argument being that when they
stop winning things all these part-time suuporters will stop going, the hard
core support will be so pissed off they will have stopped going, MUFC will be
saddled with a massive stadium which they need to keep going so they'll have to
put prices up, and so on and so on. Can't wait. I love economics (for those of
you who know about it it's a sort of cobweb theorem gone loopy).
Stu "Just call me John Maynard Keynes"
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33.1775 | My own mini-report from Sunday | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Apr 06 1995 21:53 | 69 |
| Before the game I would have been more than happy if we got a result
i.e. a draw (or very unlikely, a win). The first 10 minutes were,
IMHO, the most important. If we could weather this period, I thought
we could hold out for the whole game. Disaster: after two minutes
MUFC got a corner. Phew! Leeds handled it very well, though.
Throughout the entire match MUFC didn't really look like scoring
against us in corner situations (10 corners to one was the final
corner count in their favour). Oh, if we could only have kept them
out during the cup game; I wonder would we be looking at a cup final
now? Anyhow...
Leeds were the second best team for most of the game but I never
felt, at any stage, that we were under great stress from MUFC.
We conceded midfield for the most part, with our front 3 not getting
much decent ball during the first half. Having said that, Leeds did
attack fairly quickly (for them) on the break and caused MUFC
defence (and us, the spectators) to skip a few heart beats. Dorigo,
I thought, had one of his better games in a while, scooting around the
place and looking fairly much at ease. Lukic looked good, and was
very well-positioned to stop everything that came his way during both
halves.
The referee booked three Leeds players during the course of the game,
for fairly minor offences, such as Wallace coming too close to a free
kick at the start of the second half. Kelly and McAllister got booked
for fairly robust, but not overly unfair, tackles. It's truly amazing
that no Leeds player had yet been sent off this year, even though our
tally of yellow cards must be touching 50 at this stage.
Half time came and went, and Leeds still looked comfortable. Giggs
was almost completely anonymous in the first half, and might as well
have been the invisible man in the second half, for all he did. Kelly
certainly had no problems with him. Cole caused a few headaches, but
as we all know, Cole couldn't hit the barn door from 5 feet with his
good foot nowadays. Hughes was dangerous and, on occasions, did his
own bit of barging into anything that resembled a white shirt. Palmer
was having none of it, thankfully!
The majority of chances in the second half came to MUFC, but they
were mostly half chances. I think we can count ourselves lucky to
have escaped when McClair shot across an open goal from a Cole lay
off. Lukic was nowhere to be seen, and must have breathed a huge sigh
of relief seeing McClair's shot go past his right hand post. Cole had
a few half chances. Nothing fell to Hughes, and Ince drove over the
bar during one other goalmouth melee.
At the other end, Wallace (when he wasn't falling over himself) nearly
contrived to chip over Schmiceal from an almost impossible angle. I
don't think it was a cross...when was the last time Wallace passed to
a player in a better position in the penalty area? Yeboah had two
shots over the bar, and, on another occasion, Schmiceal nearly drove the
ball off Palmer and into his own net. Deane tried hard on the wing,
but one felt that he could be there all day trying to get past the two
full backs, and never quite succeed. Lukic punched the ball more,
yesterday, than I had seen him do before. He completely missed a
cross at one stage. It proceeded to bounce along the goal line, and
eventually away to safety.
Wetherall deserved MOTM, but I was surprised he got it, since there
were obviously many superior MUFC players on the park yesterday ;-).
It was great at the end, when the camera panned across the sea of red
shirts. They were - to a man - dumbfounded that their heroes hadn't
put the leg over Leeds again. On the pitch the Leeds players were
hugging and "high fiving" each other. At no time during the match did
I see any Leeds fans in the stadium. Where were they? I understand
MUFC only gave us something like 2K tickets.
James.
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33.1776 | UEFA still a possibility | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Bugs - R - Us | Fri Apr 07 1995 06:45 | 8 |
|
Leeds 4 Ipswich 0
Yeboah 3, Speed
First hat-trick, 10 from 10 now. All we need is Man Utd to win the
FA Cup and stay ahead of Spurs.
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33.1777 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | This is the rhythm of the night.... | Fri Apr 07 1995 12:56 | 8 |
|
>Note 437.1685
>
> Leeds 6-0 Blackburn
Thats what I like to see.. a man with confidence... :->>>
Rick.
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33.1778 | Rick, check out 437.1680 ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | Benny the Ball | Fri Apr 07 1995 12:58 | 1 |
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33.1779 | Another Nigel special | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Apr 07 1995 13:30 | 192 |
| From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"nigelb@gptcsta.demon.co.uk" "Nigel Barber" 6-APR-1995
18:18:29.92
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: LU: I am happy ('til the next match)
At last, my own personal goal drought has been ended. Last night I saw my
first live Leeds goals since November. I was beginning to be convinced
that I had become the ultimate bringer of bad luck - just look at my
record so far this season :
Chelsea (h) 2-3
Man City (h) 2-0
Forest (h) 1-0
Newcastle (h) 0-0
Wednesday (h) 0-1
Forest (a) 0-3
Ipswich (h) 4-0
Well at least noone can accuse me of cherry picking my fixtures.
SLEEPWALKING TO VICTORY
by Nigel Barber.
This was a match we had to win; we needed the points desperately to
keep our European hopes alive and losing twice in a season to the
team with the worst defensive record in the league would make us a
laughing stock.
As the teams came out to warm up, I realised that there were no surprises
in selection (not that I expected any). The team line up looked vaguely
like this:
John "Tommy" Lukic
Hibernian Gary Wethereverything Pembookable Turbo Tony
Inspector Gadget
Rodney His Holy Maccaness The girly's fave Deanoid
The minor deity, Tony Yeboah
The bench warmers and gum chewers were: Beeney, Couzens and big Noel.
Down on the field, Big Leeee was warming up with Ipswich and received
a hearty round of applause from the crowd which he thankfully
acknowledged. Of course if he scored against us, we would all hate the
bastard's guts, but that's football.
After the usual mascot interviews and other miscellaneous fripperies we
were off........
OK, I am not going to give much detail on the 'action' as the team's
performance, to be honest, was not one of the best. Instead I will
follow the tabloid practice of goal reports, with the added novelty
of Batman-style sound effects.
KAPOWWW! The ball breaks to Macca who runs at the defence as they sit
back like frightened rabbits, with Yeboah waiting on the shoulder of
one of the blue back four. Everyone in the stadium can see what is
coming next bar the opposition defenders. Yeboah moves to break and
Macca produces the perfect through ball. The Ghanaian cooly rounds
the keeper and slots it into the back of the net. Cue David Coleman,
"Yeboaahhh......one-nil!".
KERBOSH! Hot Rod has the ball on the right of the penalty area, he
beats a few defenders and slots throught a great ball which Speed
runs onto and beats Forrest with a low, angled drive. 2-0
ZOWWWIE! Big lumbering Brian has the ball, he finds Yeboah in the
area and he does what comes naturally. 3-0.
KERDOWNYOUGO! Dorigo makes a run forward on the left, he puts in a
cross which Yeboah brings down beautifully and hits low and true into
the net. 4-0.
At half time my friend was confident that more goals would follow in
the second half. I however, being a wise old buzzard, said that first
half goal fests usually lead to sterile, strike free, second halves.
The second half began, with Andy Couzens replacing Gary Kelly at right
back; I hope it is nothing serious. The crowd wanted more, but Mad
Howard had obviously instructed his troops to take it easy, and so
they did. The main incidents in this half were two dubiously disallowed
goals from Wallace and Macca and Yeboah (who else) hitting the crossbar
with a header. Not much else, really.
The final whistle went, with no more goals being scored. Told you so.
Right, player appraisals.
John Lukic. Not the busiest night of his career. Held on a few shots well
and made a fine save at the feet of an opposing player in the first half.
Gary Kelly. Usual stuff from the lad, except that his game was cut short.
As I write this I am unsure why.
Andy Couzens. Did an adequate job of replacing Kelly, although defending
against Ipswich is hardly the test of a player.
David Wetherall. Another solid performance, the only thing that lets him
down is his lack of pace.
John Pemberton. I can see the headline, "Leeds central defender in two
match unbooked run shock". Seriously, he was a bit sloppy at times and
could have been punished by a better team. On the plus side he played
some superb cross-field diagonal passes out to Deane which was one of
our major outlets. It's funny, we are conditioned in this country to
expect so little from our central defenders.
Tony Dorigo. Not really challenged that often. To me, he still lacks
confidence to really blaze forward; you often see him hesitate with
the ball, as the crowd screams at him to press on. Temporary I'm sure.
Carlton Palmer. As the cravate wearing gentlemen sat next to me said,
as he peered admiringly through his opera glasses, "Ah, such grace, poise
and elegance. He reminds me of Nuryev at his peak". Perhaps not.
In reality Carlton did his usual thang, i.e. tackled like a hero and
passed like a villain.
Rod Wallace. An under utilised player last night; he seemed to spend
long stretches of time stood out in acres of space while noone had
to ability to deliver to ball to him to use the room. He seemed to stay
on his feet much longer though - things are looking up.
Gary McAllister. The usual captains performance - he was everwhere as
usual. This is one of our major problems; Macca should not feel the
need to come so deep to fetch the ball - lesser minions (i.e. Palmer)
should do his fetching and carrying. If we could only get that sorted
out, the world would be at our feet.
Gary Speed. The problem with Gary Speed is that he is a skillful, talented
player that has forgotten how to do the simple things. Instead of a simple
pass, he will try some fancy chest down and fail. The crowd will then
get on his back. Still, he finished his goal with Yeboah-like aplomb.
Brian Deane. Good in the air, average on the ground. Just about good
enough all round to keep his place, no better.
Tony Yeboah. Not bad, I suppose.
Tony Yeboah (properly this time). A supreme display of finishing, he
simply does not miss. However, I feel I must tell the whole tale, as
at present his link up play with the rest of the team is less than
perfect. Yeboah himself admitted this in an interview in Wednesday's
YEP (in which he also dismisses rumours that he wants to leave, hurray!)
and said that he is looking forward to pre-season training with the
team so he can fully develop an understanding with his team mates.
If the Ghanaian God can add good build-up play to his awesome finishing
we will have some very happy times ahead indeed. I have my fingers
permanently crossed (so it's taking me hours to type this in).
So there you have it; a less than inspiring team performance but a
superb result - four goals, a clean sheet, a Yeboah hat trick and
no bookings. Coming back down to earth, our next match is away at
Liverpool and we will have to raise our game several notches if we
are to have any chance of winning, Tony Y. or no Tony Y.
Nigel Barber (who can now tell his grandkids he was there when
Tony Yeboah scored his first of fifty hat tricks
for Leeds)
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33.1780 | A win at Anfield!!!!! | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Bugs - R - Us | Mon Apr 10 1995 10:40 | 11 |
|
Liverpool 0 Leeds United 1
Deane
At last! a win at Anfield. First since 1972 I think.
As long as Man Utd get past Palace in the replay and win the FA Cup
we're on our way to Europe.
4 points from Old Trafford and Anfield in 8 days. It's not often
we've been able to say that. :-)
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33.1781 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Nooooooo I shall believe..... | Mon Apr 10 1995 13:12 | 6 |
| Where is CUNNO when you need him!!!!!
A good result... looks like we could really make it into Europe this
year...
Rick.
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33.1782 | like a rash | COMICS::HAWLEYI | I...AM...A...HORSE! | Mon Apr 10 1995 13:33 | 5 |
|
Hmmm...hope you do make it into Europe, Rick.
As the saying goes though: "we were all over ya"
Ian.
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33.1783 | Mr Statistics at your service | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Apr 10 1995 13:45 | 45 |
| Re: Liverpool 0-1 Leeds
Since our last victory in 1971-72 we've played them 14 times in the
league at Anfield and have only gleaned 3 draws (and 11 defeats). Upto
yesterday we hadn't scored in our previous 7 visits and had scored
only twice in the 14 games since we won there last. Very depressing
reading!
To the stats:
93-94 0-2
92-93 0-2
91-92 0-0 (league champions)
90-91 0-3
...
81-82 0-3
80-81 0-0
79-80 0-3
78-79 1-1
77-78 0-1
76-77 1-3
75-76 0-2
74-75 0-1
73-74 0-1 (league champions)
72-73 0-2
71-72 2-0 [1 Jan 1972 - Clarke, Jones scorers HT 0-0]
Our overall record at Anfield is now:
P W D L F A
41 5 10 26 24 71
*I* think this victory is on a par with the September win against the
MUFC and breaks one of the last hoodoos the team has in this
re-incarnation in the top flight. One of the other major bogeys still
left to break is to win in East Anglia (either Ipswich or Norwich).
We mightn't have to worry about this one next year as both these teams
will probably be playing in the first division next term.
I will enjoy this victory very much as we've got more than our fair
share of red scouse fans around here, many of whom weren't born when
Leeds last won there.
James.
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33.1784 | Match report - unbiased | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Apr 10 1995 13:49 | 134 |
| From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"Jon@etrigan.demon.co.uk" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 10-APR-1995
01:47:28.39
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: LU: Liverpool report & stuff
Liverpool 0, Leeds 1.
Hard to believe, I know, but we've actually managed to win at Anfield.
I'm sure that when I read the papers tomorrow, there will be plenty of
reports saying how lucky we were, and that Liverpool had so much pressure
and were unlucky not to get a draw. Well, I was there, and I'm sure that
most of the other people who were there will join with me in reading those
reports and loudly exclaiming "BOLLOCKS!".
This was a classic Leeds performance with every player contributing
to a magnificent and entertaining victory. Liverpool did have some chances,
but were mostly restricted to long range shots, and the best of those
didn't come until the final minutes when Kennedy, the new signing from
Millwall brought out a brilliant save from Lukic to turn away a 30-yard
screamer. Rush and Fowler barely got a look in, and when they did, they
never really troubled Lukic. McManaman tried his luck down both wings,
but he got no change from Dorigo and Kelly; he tried the centre, but found
Pembo & Wetherall to be equally impassable.
And all the while, we kept on attacking. We never really managed to produce
those periods of sustained bombardment of the box that we used to do, but
with fast breaks from the back, Yeboah's genius at holding the ball when
being challenged by 3 Scousers, Macca's ability to spray the ball 50 yards
across field to Wallace, and the sheer enthusiasm and aggression of Speed
and Deano, we always looked dangerous. Speaking of aggression, Deano
was booked for a little bout of handbags with Rob Jones - but the incident
started as a result of Deano working hard at the back, shepherding the
ball out while Jones tried to get to it.
And then we scored. Speed cut through the middle of the defence and made
James make a good save from his first shot. (I think he then had another shot
which was also saved) but Deano followed up the rebound and the Kop started
making even less noise than they had previously. In the second half, Leeds'
closest effort came as Macca won the ball from the defence and chipped
James from 25 yards, but the ball bounced off the crossbar just as we were
about to start really celebrating. As they pressed forward for an equaliser,
they were left more and more open at the back, and several times we were
let down by a poor cross or bad luck as Kelly, Wallace and Deane made
several good runs down the wings. After nearly 3 minutes of injury time,
the whistle went to give the travelling Whites the chance to cheer the team
off the pitch.
And what's more, the ref turned down two Liverpool penalty claims
(admittedly they were at our end, not in front of the Kop, and one was
for alleged handball after a Scouser kicked the ball at Dorigo from
6 inches away, but (without the benefit of a TV replay) I did think that
Carlton tripped Walters as he cut along the touchline).
Leeds:
Lukic: monstrously wonderful game - even his kicking seems to have improved.
Kelly: obviously not 100% fit, totally botched a couple of crosses when we
had men free, but gives it everything and you can't fault his attitude.
Dorigo: solid performance - didn't get forward much but was never really
troubled by the opposition.
Pemb & Wetherall: totally solid - looking more and more like the Fairclough/
Whyte combination from the Championship (no, I don't mean they are getting
a suntan and losing their hair :-). Yeboah may have given us confidence up
front, but this pairing and Lukic seem to be coming to an understanding that
has been absent at the back for 2 years.
Palmer: nearly gave away a pen, but worked tirelessly to close down the
space in midfield. No complaints.
Speed: with Deano drifting to the left wing, our favorite male model has
been playing slightly more central - but seems to be applying himself much
more than he used to and seems to be enjoying it much more.
McAllister: G*dlike genius that we cannot afford to lose at any price. If
they sell him, I want to be at the head of the queue to assasinate Silver
& Fotherby.
Deano: he may not have scored many this season, and he may not be the most
skilful player ever to have pulled on the number 9 shirt for Leeds, but he
has shown more guts than most and anyone who says that a player who scores
the winner against the Scouse & the Scum is a failure should be taken out
and shot.
Wallace: despite an occasional tendency to leave the ball behind him while
beating three players, like the rest of the team he appears to have regained
the confidence in his own ability - he was always available in wide positions
to draw the defence and make holes for others. Sound.
Yeboah Yeboah Yeboah: Crap. Failed to score. Whoops, sorry, being in the
presence of the Chapman/Deane/Wallace-hating boo boys has taken its toll.
Ran like a demon, covered huge amounts of ground, strong as an ox, <continues
praising Yeboah for 5 pages>...but looked very tired by the end of the game -
hardly surprising when you consider what he did.
Beeney/Whelan/Worthington: very impressive warm-ups.
Wilko: it must be said that the last month or so has started rubbing away
at my anti-Wilko feelings, and (despite the setback at Forest) he has made
3 excellent decisions:
1. Buy Yeboah. Nuff said.
2. Play the players in the right positions.
3. Not changing the formation and line-up every game - consistency won us
the title - playing 20 different defensive combinations nearly got us
relegated.
The fact is that at long last, the team appears to have found the self-belief
and willingness to fight for each other that have been missing for so long,
and I suppose that if we blamed Wilko when it wasn't there, we can't totally
deny him any credit for its return.
I've got to end on a downer here - what the hell is it with the twats singing
"Spurs are on their way to Belsen" ? This makes the Munich chant sound like
a Christmas Carol and should be stamped on now. The sick bastards singing
it should be kicked out and told to take their anti-semitic attitudes to
a BNP meeting so we know where to find them when we want to give someone
a justified kicking.
Jon - dithering at the exit of the Anti-Wilko HQ.
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33.1785 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Nooooooo I shall believe..... | Mon Apr 10 1995 14:04 | 3 |
| Bring on Blackburn.. :->
Rick.
|
33.1786 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Apr 10 1995 19:15 | 7 |
| Pemberton is king...
Wetherall is king...
Palmer is king...
Yeboah is GOD...
|
33.1787 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Mon Apr 10 1995 19:24 | 9 |
| >> Pemberton is king...
>> Wetherall is king...
>> Palmer is king...
>> Yeboah is GOD...
Hmmmm - did you think of this note all by yourself, or did
somebody help you ?
|
33.1788 | | CHEFS::GEORGEM | Cannibalise Legalbis | Mon Apr 10 1995 19:26 | 1 |
| So God's black, is he? That should f**k 2000 years of christianity up...
|
33.1789 | At least he's not a woman | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | | Mon Apr 10 1995 20:01 | 0 |
33.1790 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Nooooooo I shall believe..... | Tue Apr 11 1995 23:12 | 3 |
| And at least he doesn't support ManU...
Rick.
|
33.1791 | Yeboah.. Yeboah... Yeboah... Yeboah... | MARVIN::MORRELL | Nooooooo I shall believe..... | Tue Apr 18 1995 12:30 | 22 |
33.1792 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Nooooooo I shall believe..... | Thu Apr 27 1995 12:37 | 7 |
| Excellent cross from Macca for the second goal... he's in really good
form at the moment.... lets hope Scotland qualify... I'd love to see
England vs Scotland in the final...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1793 | Not good, but 3 points | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Bugs - R - Us | Mon May 01 1995 04:38 | 11 |
|
Leeds United 1 Aston Villa 0
Not a great performance, I listened to this live on the radio with 3
Villa fans ;-) I felt sorry for them. Palmer scored in the 90th after
Bosnich was sent-off a few minutes earlier. Villa deserved a
draw at least. We'll have to improve to overtake Newcastle. At least
they seem out of form, and they have Spurs H and Blackburn A as their
next two games. A draw with Spurs would probably be the best result
as Spurs are currently 6 behind with a game in hand, but a worse goal
difference.
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33.1794 | We will sing our own song.... | MARVIN::MORRELL | Nooooooo I shall believe..... | Mon May 01 1995 12:46 | 16 |
| Hey.. there are only 2 points between us & Newcastle now... we should
have a definate win against Norwich next week... although Crystal
Palace could be a tough match later this week....
Newcastle seem to be having a bit of a wobble at the moment... looks
like they won't qualify for Europe after all if they carry on like
this... *:->
Well I've got my tickets for the Norwich & the Tottenham games... so
I'll be able to wave Klinsmann goodbye on the last game of the season..
as he leaves for Bayern Munich.. :->
Cheers,
Rick.
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33.1795 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue May 09 1995 18:48 | 6 |
| Palace tonight! What's the odds of Palmer popping up in the last
seconds to steal a third winner in a row?
Europe here we come!
James.
|
33.1796 | Another 2 home games, another 2 wins | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Bugs - R - Us | Wed May 10 1995 07:06 | 20 |
|
Leeds United 2 Norwich City 1
McAllister (pen)
Palmer
Leeds United 3 Crystal Palace 1
Yeboah 2
Wetherall
It's looking good. 4 wins in a row. Palace are almost down, but they
will have something to play for at Newcastle at the weekend. No 91st
minute winner from Palmer this time ;-)
If Leeds don't lose .or. Newcastle don't win at the weekend then Leeds
are in Europe. We're at the heady position of 4th at the moment.
If only the league season started in January.
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33.1797 | Europe - here we come! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed May 10 1995 18:56 | 9 |
| After last night's result Europe is a distinct probability. All we need is
a result at Spurs on Saturday. Even if we don't, Newcastle have to beat
Palace - a team that will be fighting for their lives - to go above us. We
might even finish 4th, if Liverpool also slip up.
If we finish fourth, it'll be my *distinct pleasure* to cheer on Everton
in the Cup Final :-).
James.
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33.1798 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | These words... you will be mine.. all the time.. | Thu May 11 1995 12:03 | 11 |
| Any Scouserville slipped up again... so if we win on Saturday we finish
4th.... :->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
>If we finish fourth, it'll be my *distinct pleasure* to cheer on
>Everton in the Cup Final :-).
Have to agree with ya there James.... :->
Rick. ( Who is looking forward to the Totterningham
match on Saturday... and personally wishing Klinnsman
a pleasant trip back to Munich... )
|
33.1805 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu May 11 1995 17:46 | 11 |
| Re .1803
I have deleted the messages I entered this morning. I didn't see
anything wrong with them but I take you word that you saw
something offensive in them.
They were all decent reports of recent Leeds games FWIW!
Pity...
James.
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33.1806 | UEFA Cup here we come | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Bugs - R - Us | Mon May 15 1995 04:39 | 14 |
|
Spurs 1 Leeds United 1
No details but we're in Europe. :-) Pity Liverpool won as they
jump over us and we finish 5th. Still we can all support Everton
on Saturday now. ;-)
Top 3 priorities for next season
1. Keep Yeboah
2. Keep Yeboah
3. Keep McAllister
|
33.1807 | Europe... Europe.. here we come... | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds United FC Greatest team in football the world has everseen | Mon May 15 1995 12:43 | 10 |
| You forgot one.....
4. Keep Deano..... that must be the most important goal his ever
scored... he's brilliant out on the wing...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1808 | From the Leeds Utd Mailing List.... | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Fri Jun 02 1995 16:27 | 8 |
| According to Sky Sports
Yeboah has signed a 3.5 year contract with US.
Fotherby has been told this by Yeboah's financial advisor
The signed contract is in the post.
|
33.1809 | | VYGER::REIDI | Celtic FC Scottish Cup Champions 1995 | Fri Jun 02 1995 18:02 | 6 |
|
>The signed contract is in the post.
Be a shame if it got lost.....
Choppers ;-)
|
33.1810 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Fri Jun 02 1995 19:04 | 3 |
| It'll probably get redirected to Munich....
Rick.
|
33.1811 | | XSTACY::FUNBOX::jLuNdOn | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Jun 02 1995 21:59 | 4 |
| Believe nothing until he's seen playing in a Leeds shirt
next February.
James.
|
33.1812 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Sun Jun 04 1995 18:06 | 3 |
| Won't he play for us in Ireland if the deal goes through.....
Rick.
|
33.1813 | Same old rumours, year after year | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Bugs - R - Us | Wed Jun 07 1995 05:23 | 6 |
|
Leeds have him under contract until January anyway. So February
will be the test.
We haven't had much of the "McAllister to Rangers/Liverpool/anyone"
this (northern) summer. What's happening?
|
33.1814 | The Leeds players as cartoon characters.... | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Thu Jun 08 1995 14:30 | 56 |
|
From the Leeds Mailing List....
Lukic - Ren (out of Ren and Stimpy). As they say in the Houses of
Parliament, "The Eyes have it".
Kelly - Speedy Gonzales. Fast as flip and probably likes his cheese.
Weathers - Wile E Coyote, sly and cunning, and probably plays with
his own Acme Chemistry Kit when he gets home (if his mum lets him).
Pembo - Butch out of Tom and Jerry, hard, but with a caring side for
small puppies (which is why he gets on with Rodney).
Dorigo - Road Runner. Again fast as flip, but just like Road Runner,
if you chuck a packet of Acme Tony Seed onto the half way line, he'll
stop and peck it up every time.
Carlton - Goofy. The imagery says it all (but do you remember the
one where Goofy was the bloke driving to work, started out well, lost
his rag, fliped up a few times, then got there).
Wallace - Tom the Cat. Like Tom, well intentioned, but all his plans
somehow seem to come unstuck. And I bet Hot Rod's mother twats him
when he gets home as well. "RrrrooodddNEEEEYY"
Macca - Sylvester. Sly, devious, cunning, but not quite as furry.
Speed - Daffy Duck. Fancies himself too much and gives up too
easily.
Deano - The Hooded Claw. Starts out as Mr Nice guy, but suddenly
transforms into a football monster.
Yeboah - Popeye. Reverse the forarms and legs, and there you have
it.
Wilko - Elmer Fudd. Can't decide whether it's "Cup Season, League
Season, Cup Season, League Season... League Season, Cup Season,
League Season, Cup Season". OR
Clunk (out of Stop the Pidgeon). "BrrrrRRRaacck Pow WOP WIP
Tthheewwwp wew-wew-wew-wew PIDGEON"
Subs
Whelan, Tinkler, Sharp, Masinga, Worthington, Fairclough. - The
Anthill Mob. "OK youzzz guyzzz, get off the bench power" "Herher her
her her, look it's the FA Cup again and we've drawn Mansfield and we're
all
gonna die" "ZZZZzzzzzzzz" "Pockets, youzzz gotta magic "we can
actually sign sumbody" pen in there"
Bill Fotherby - Penelope Pitstop. "Heeyyalp, heeyyalp, it the liddle
owld negotiadin room, and I don't know jerst what to doowa".
|
33.1815 | Fixtures 95-96 (from Electronic Telegraph) | OZROCK::OSMAN | | Thu Jun 22 1995 06:39 | 112 |
| AUGUST
Wed 16 Coca-Cola Cup (1st rd, 1st leg)
Sat 19 (a) West Ham
Tue 22 (H) LIVERPOOL
Wed 23 Coca-Cola Cup (1st rd, 2nd leg)
Sat 26 (H) ASTON VILLA
Wed 30 (a) Southampton
------------------------------------------------------
SEPTEMBER
Wed 6 ENGLAND vs Croatia
Sat 9 (a) Tottenham
Sat 16 (H) QPR
Wed 20 Coca-Cola Cup (2nd rd, 1st leg)
Sat 23 (a) Wimbledon
Sat 30 (H) SHEFFIELD WED
------------------------------------------------------
OCTOBER
Wed 4 Coca-Cola Cup (2nd rd, 2nd leg)
Wed 11 NORWAY vs England
Sat 14 (H) ARSENAL
Sat 21 (a) Man City
Wed 25 Coca-Cola Cup (3rd rd)
Sat 28 (H) COVENTRY
------------------------------------------------------
NOVEMBER
Sat 4 (a) Middlesbrough
Sat 11 FA Cup (1st rd)
Wed 15 ENGLAND vs Switzerland
Sat 18 (H) CHELSEA
Wed 22 (a) Nottm Forest
Sat 25 (a) Newcastle
Wed 29 Coca-Cola Cup (4th rd)
------------------------------------------------------
DECEMBER
Sat 2 (H) MAN CITY
FA Cup (2nd rd)
Sat 9 (H) WIMBLEDON
Wed 13 International (TBD)
Sat 16 (a) Sheffield Wed
Sat 23 (H) MAN UTD
Tue 26 (a) Bolton
Sat 30 (a) Everton
------------------------------------------------------
JANUARY
Mon 1 (H) BLACKBURN
Sat 6 FA Cup (3rd rd)
Wed 10 Coca-Cola Cup (Qtr-finals)
Sat 13 (H) WEST HAM
Sat 20 (a) Liverpool
Wed 24 International (TBD)
Sat 27 FA Cup (4th rd)
------------------------------------------------------
FEBRUARY
Sat 3 (a) Aston Villa
Wed 7 International (TBD)
Sat 10 (H) SOUTHAMPTON
Wed 14 Coca-Cola Cup (Semi-finals, 1st leg)
Sat 17 (H) TOTTENHAM
FA Cup (5th rd)
Wed 21 Coca-Cola Cup (Semi-finals, 2nd leg)
Sat 24 (a) QPR
------------------------------------------------------
MARCH
Sat 2 (H) BOLTON
Sat 9 (a) Man Utd
FA Cup (6th rd)
Sat 16 (H) EVERTON
Sat 23 (a) Blackburn
Sun 24 Coca-Cola Cup (Final)
Wed 27 International (TBD)
Sat 30 (H) MIDDLESBROUGH
FA Cup (1st Semi-finals)
Sun 31 FA Cup (2nd Semi-finals)
------------------------------------------------------
APRIL
Sat 6 (a) Arsenal
Mon 8 (H) NOTTM FOREST
Sat 13 (a) Chelsea
Wed 24 International (TBD)
Sat 27 (H) NEWCASTLE
------------------------------------------------------
MAY
Sat 4 (a) Coventry
Sat 11 FA Cup (Final)
|
33.1816 | are they in copa america too? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Fri Jun 23 1995 07:52 | 5 |
| some tough games for leeds there - imagine having to play all the
international games as well as their regular fixtures (:==:)
Leeds v Sheffield == Croatia v Macedonia
|
33.1817 | Busy years ahead for Wilko | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Bugs - R - Us | Mon Jun 26 1995 03:55 | 14 |
|
Yes, Leeds have entered the Copa America, and Serie A in Italy,
they are also providing the UN Peacekeeping force in Sarajevo
and are standing against John Major for the UK Prime Minister's
job. They have also offered a home for Shell's oil rigs, and have
suggested Old Trafford as an alternative location for French nuclear
testing. Australia, New Zealand and Greenpeace have all endorsed this
alternative location.
Next year they plan to colonise Mars and then move on to the outer
planets like Jupiter, Saturn and Highbury.
I'll have to stop drinking so much coffee in the morning ...
|
33.1818 | More transfer news ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | I'm not long for this world | Tue Jul 18 1995 12:41 | 6 |
|
It said on the news this morning that Leeds are trying to sign
Jonah Lomu.
E.I.Addio (the man on the terraces with the mac and the Curly-Wurly)
|
33.1819 | Further News.... | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | | Tue Jul 18 1995 15:14 | 8 |
| Robbie has left the famous team Take That.
Joe Royal has finally got his man.
He'd seemingly never seen him play but was assured that he was a
top scorer with some nice moves and well able to get into any tight box.
Peter.
|
33.1820 | | YUPPY::OHAGANB | | Tue Jul 18 1995 16:49 | 2 |
|
Gratuitous Fnaars all round.
|
33.1821 | Too many handballs ... | OZROCK::OSMAN | Arif Osman | Wed Jul 19 1995 05:02 | 4 |
| That transfer news is about rugby not football.
He's the New Zealand chappie who rang past all
the English defenders in the recent World Cup
in South Africa.
|
33.1822 | ! | KERNEL::WITHALLG | UVO | Wed Jul 19 1995 15:42 | 1 |
|
|
33.1823 | Whoosh! | YUPPY::OHAGANB | | Wed Jul 19 1995 16:07 | 1 |
|
|
33.1824 | Huh? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jul 19 1995 17:23 | 0 |
33.1825 | Enough with the one word answers already ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | I'm not long for this world | Wed Jul 19 1995 17:36 | 10 |
|
I'd like to thank Mr Osman for clearing up the transfer speculation
referred to in .1818. I automatically but mistakenly assumed that they
meant Leeds (Leeds Leeds) UNITED were trying to procure the services
of the gentleman previously mentioned.
What a silly sausage I am.
Frank Carson again.
|
33.1826 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jul 19 1995 17:41 | 11 |
| Re: Lomu
We could always do with a little more strength at the back but since
Lomu doesn't have a defensive hair in his head, he wouldn't be much
good to us there.
He might add a little needed steel in the middle though with those
darting runs. One problem: Wilko would have to teach him not to
pick the ball off the floor
James.
|
33.1827 | Playing a wide game... | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Wed Jul 19 1995 17:46 | 5 |
| Careful Liverpool don't move in for him...imagine trying to outflank a
midfield of messrs. Barnes, Molby and Lomu (plus Ronnie Whelan, back to
play out his career at Anfield).
Dom
|
33.1828 | | CHEFS::GEORGEM | lived eht pihsroW | Wed Jul 19 1995 17:48 | 3 |
| re .1826
He managed it with Lucic...
|
33.1829 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jul 19 1995 21:36 | 7 |
| Re -1
> "lived eht pihsroW"
doG si okliW
.semaJ
|
33.1830 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Jul 24 1995 17:38 | 9 |
| Jobson's transfer has fallen through. Was it the medical I wonder?
I see Mr. Humphries in The Irish Times had a long article about it
this morning!
If it appears on their WWW site tomorrow (one day behind usually),
I'll post it to the notesfile.
James.
|
33.1831 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Mon Jul 24 1995 20:17 | 8 |
| >Jobson's transfer has fallen through.
Good.... sounds like we were just about to waste 1,000,000 quid yet
again on a player who wann't upto Premiership football....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1832 | | CHEFS::GEORGEM | lived eht pihsroW | Mon Jul 24 1995 20:18 | 4 |
| >>>sounds like we were just about to waste 1,000,000 quid yet again on a player
>>>who wann't upto Premiership football
The perfect Leeds United signing, surely.
|
33.1833 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Mon Jul 24 1995 20:20 | 5 |
| Unfortunately, I have to agree with you Matt...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1834 | All his dogs are not on the same leash ... | OZROCK::OSMAN | Arif Osman | Tue Jul 25 1995 05:50 | 11 |
| A much debated issue, but rears it's head again.
Facts have to be faced - Wilko doesn't play with
a full deck of cards when it comes to the transfer
market.
Apparently, the Jobson deal is on ice coz he can't
agree personal terms - at 32, I'd shut up and put
my thumb print on the contract! From Leeds' perspective,
a blessing in disguise if he doesn't sign.
--arif
|
33.1835 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Tue Jul 25 1995 12:02 | 6 |
| Well according to Ceefax it was due to Jobson having a blood disorder
which may effect his fintness in the future.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1836 | News just in... | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | | Tue Jul 25 1995 14:56 | 8 |
| Wilko foiled in transfer bid when the medical revealed
the player to a Vampire.
Maybe that's why he reckons it's a good deal after all. He'll
probably get another 400 years out of him unless Cantona drives a boot
through his heart.
No surprise there then.
|
33.1837 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Tue Jul 25 1995 16:24 | 5 |
| >Cantona
Who's he then???
Rick.
|
33.1838 | re. 1836 | YUPPY::OHAGANB | | Tue Jul 25 1995 16:58 | 1 |
| Arf! Arf! Excellent.
|
33.1839 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Tue Jul 25 1995 17:20 | 5 |
| Well according to the internet Leeds are now after Mark Wright....
God.. this goes from bad to worse...
Rick.
|
33.1840 | I'm feeling generous | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Kylie fan club | Tue Jul 25 1995 18:50 | 7 |
| I don't think you're being entirely fair to Mark Wright there. He had a corking
World Cup, and was then sold to a team managed by Graeme Souness. Maybe it was
just el Crappo Sourpuss who ruined a once promising defender. You'll probably
get him cheap because of his wage bill, and he'll be, at worst, good cover for
your existing pairing of centre backs.
Mike
|
33.1841 | | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Tue Jul 25 1995 19:42 | 7 |
| re: -1
Couldn't agree more. Go and ask Ruud Gullit (amongst others) what he
thinks of Mark Wright.
The worst thing I could say about him is that he's the wrong side of 30.
Dom
|
33.1842 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Disconnect brain from mouth | Tue Jul 25 1995 19:48 | 8 |
| Dom,
>The worst thing I could say about him is that he's the wrong side of
>30.
Erm, what about he's ginger-haired?
Stuart
|
33.1843 | No gingers allowed | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Kylie fan club | Tue Jul 25 1995 20:25 | 7 |
| >>>Erm, what about he's ginger-haired?
Urk, I'd forgotten about that. Ignore my previous note. Wright is crap and
deserves to be shot. At the very least. 8-)
Mike
|
33.1844 | Rules out Boniek, Billy Bremner and Sammer too... | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Tue Jul 25 1995 20:36 | 14 |
| >>Erm, what about he's ginger-haired?
>Urk, I'd forgotten about that. Ignore my previous note. Wright is crap and
>deserves to be shot. At the very least. 8-)
Point taken.
> No gingers allowed.
...unless they look like Susan Sarandon in "Bull Durham". Mind you,
she's the wrong side of 40 (alledgedly).
Dom
|
33.1845 | Everybody off to 79 ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | Death by Bongo Bongo | Tue Jul 25 1995 20:53 | 8 |
|
> Rules out Boniek, Billy Bremner and Sammer too...
And their own beloved Gordon Strachan as well. This discussion has
potential of being worthy of the Bristol City note, folks.
Malc.
|
33.1846 | Have headache, need aspirin | OZROCK::OSMAN | Arif Osman | Thu Jul 27 1995 09:57 | 11 |
| According to FuturNet, QPR are interetsed in procuring Deano
as a replacement for Ferdinand. Fartby told them to lay off.
He said "... he had a difficult time when he first joined, but
had an excellent season last year". Was Fartby talking about
his performance on the pitch?
Any news about Aspirin? I thought the Colombian's pimp was
going to have talks with Fartby during Leeds' South African
tour.
--arif
|
33.1847 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Lovely day for a Guinness | Thu Jul 27 1995 13:13 | 12 |
| .1846
aarrrgghhhhhh!!!!
please don't sell us Deano!!!!
we'll pay you to keep him!!!!
Ray....(up the R's)
|
33.1848 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Jul 27 1995 14:42 | 8 |
| Re: Deane
If we are to part with Deane we'll want more than 3 million.
IMO Deane did very well for Leeds and has got a lot of totally
undeserved criticism :-(.
James.
|
33.1849 | Where's Bob Geldof when you need him? | OZROCK::OSMAN | Arif Osman | Fri Jul 28 1995 06:35 | 7 |
| Electronic Telegraph reports that Leeds' attempt to sign Asprilla
may flounder. Parma are refusing to drop their asking price of
6.5M (UK stg) - Leeds want to pay around 4.5M.
Ah well, we were kept amused while it lasted.
--arif
|
33.1850 | Finished last, Wetherall sent off | OZROCK::OSMAN | Arif Osman | Tue Aug 01 1995 05:31 | 12 |
| From FutureNet:
Leeds finished last in the 4 team tournament in S Africa.
Benfica beat Leeds 6-5 on penalties after 0-0 draw.
David Wetherall received 2 bookings, hence sent off.
FA awaiting referee's report, but more than likely that
Wetherall will receive a 1-match suspension - that means
he will miss opener at Upton Park.
Hope this is not a sign of things to come ...
--arif
|
33.1851 | 1st summer signing | OZROCK::OSMAN | Arif Osman | Thu Aug 03 1995 06:57 | 7 |
| Electronic Telegraph reports that Leeds have signed
Paul Beesley from Sheffield Utd for half a million.
With Radebe injured, and O'Leary unfit, Beesley will
act as cover for Wetherall and Pemberton.
--arif
|
33.1852 | Made up for THAT match of the seventies....... | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Aug 18 1995 15:05 | 54 |
| Very quiet in here so let us cast our minds back a few years...........
I see a pitch. Oxford Utd currently lead the SECOND division and are
facing a team at their home ground. Who could they be ???? Well there's
Peter Lorimer and Co so it must be the Mighty Leeds. What SECOND
division I hear you wail. Unfortunately my vision for the beginning of
the game is too hazy, but normal service is resumed soon and the score
stands at 2-1 to the Leeds (Leeds Leeds). O.K Should be able to hold
onto this then, I mean we are Leeds etc etc . But who is gangly youth
with the silly caterpiller type thing under his nose. Why none other
than John (I look silly with this tache at this age) Aldridge. Anyway
things are under control as far as Leeds are concerned until Mr Tache
pops up on the end of a cross and suddenly it is 2-2 . Oxford anoraks R
us go mental. Leeds are visibly not chuffed. Who said they could do
that ? Oh well on with our dominence 'cos We Are Leeds !!!. Leeds are on
the attack well into the Oxford half....ball is intercepted and a
pinpoint pass through the Leeds find them stranded Oxford surge
forward, another cross, and lo, there is Mr Tache again 3-2. Well this
is taking the mickey. I know, lets have a go at the Tache for his
audacity. Lorimer gets into a tussle and a blatant piece of shirt
pulling/arm grabbing from Lorimer results in Lorimer going for his
equity card with full rolling around etc etc Just because he got
Aldridges elbow in his face !!! Well that was a bit unfair say the
Leeds as they attack the Tache. Ref walks over, and by now the John
Gielgud(sp) of Leeds is up and remonstrating (he was very restrained
actually considering his lips were inflating at about 15 psi per 10
seconds due to the elbow) with the man in black. No probs, justice will
prevail 'cos We are Leeds !!! And the considered opinion of the ref is
.........Lorimer must go !!!! What ???? mouths Lorimer like some landed
fish . What say the rest of the Leeds ???? Well we, the reasonable
Leeds(leeds leeds) fans must have our say on this. Result of this being
assorted seats, poles, missiles start appearing from the Leeds end.
Should we stop the game ask the Leeds players, hoping to save face. NO
says the ref, we shall continue. Oh goody says the Tache and proceeds to
score another goal after going through to end up one on one with the
poor goalie. 4-2. Blinkin Flip, What on earth is going on here !!!! The
anoraks are going beeeezurk, although not quite as mental as the
Leeds(leeds leeds) end. The final nail in the coffin was, I seem to
remember another goal by the Tache. Cheeky B'Stards 5-2, This is not on
at all.
The whole enjoyable sight was rounded off with good old Chinny Hill
speaking, from what I can remember, for the first, and last time with
any accuracy when he called the Leeds (leeds leeds) fans mindless
morons !!!!
Gloating_Stretch.
P.S I have some hazy recollection of the reasonable Leeds fans going on
a tour of Oxford. There walkabout resulted in most of the home counties
declaring a state of emergency, hundreds of police swarming around the
place, Reading and any other station between Leeds and Oxford being
declared a No Go area. Smart stuff !!!!!
|
33.1853 | Skegness, just south of Mozambique !! | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Fri Aug 18 1995 15:12 | 10 |
| Hey Stretch,
Since when was Reading between Leeds and Oxford ??!! I suppose this
lack of geographical knowledge is another reason why you support your
home town team of Man Utd !!
I don't know, kids these days just aren't getting the education !!
Ian$wheres_your_blinkin_Team
|
33.1854 | Still no team name Ian !!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Aug 18 1995 15:40 | 15 |
| Ian,
Geography is not the reason Reading etc etc were facing the rampaging
hordes of Leeds (Leeds Leeds). It was all to do with them going back to
London via Reading and other (now Network SE) Thames valley towns to
catch trains back up North. This also happened a couple of years ago
when the reasonable Leeds came back from Bournemouth and stoped off at
Winchester and other stations to "discuss" their teams merits .
Ref Man U fan in Reading. Something springs to mind about glass
houses,stones etc. A Liverpool fan who was born there then are you Ian
(Mc) Rutherford !!!!
Stretch.
|
33.1855 | Cue Cockney Reds comments ! | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Aug 18 1995 15:44 | 3 |
| Don't forget that in the survey conducted by ??? last season, Leeds
were shown to have the lowest percentage of fans to actually come from
Leeds. Therefore, they were probably just going home to London !
|
33.1856 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Everybody was a Boxer | Fri Aug 18 1995 16:02 | 8 |
| re -1
Dave,
More revisionism from the MU fans. Don't tell me, MU had the highest %
of fans that come from the place where club is based...
Stuart
|
33.1857 | wish I was going tonight now | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Mr Flibble says: Game over boys | Fri Aug 18 1995 16:09 | 7 |
|
I dont know, if he's not fighting with Matt, he's fighting with Dave
and not just in 1 note either...
This Stratford lad is trouble and no mistake.
Ian.
|
33.1858 | I support Rangers 'cos I don't live near them | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Fri Aug 18 1995 16:14 | 23 |
|
Can I just clarify that I am a Glasgow Rangers fan. I was born just
outside of Edinburgh, but the first football match that I was taken to
see was Rangers v Sellick when I was 5 years old. Understandable when
you consider that my only other options were Hearts or Motherwell !!
I always will be a Rangers fan. However, I would like to see either
Newcastle or Liverpool win the English Premier League this Season. I am
not a fan of Liverpool because I don't go to see any of their matches,
or buy their duvet covers, but I like the players that they have bought
and think that their Team will do well this Season. I am a fan of
Rangers because I try and watch as many of their games as I can
(eg: vs Sampdoria in pre-Season), and I buy their merchandise. Can you
tell me the last time you went to Old Trafford Stinky, oops Stretch ??
Was it last year, the year before ??
Anyway this note was just to put you straight on who I supported, as if
you needed telling, and not to start a debate on what constitutes
being a fan.
Ian$rattled_but_undeterred.
PS. Stretch, have you thought of a team name yet !!
|
33.1859 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Everybody was a Boxer | Fri Aug 18 1995 16:21 | 13 |
| Mr Hawley,
I haven't picked/had an argument with Matthew for months. As for Dave,
well...
Ian R,
> Understandable when you consider that my only other options were
>Hearts or Motherwell!!
Hmmm, what was wrong with Hibs?
Stuart
|
33.1860 | buffoonery | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Mr Flibble says: Game over boys | Fri Aug 18 1995 16:30 | 9 |
|
> I haven't picked/had an argument with Matthew for months.
I still have the emails in my mailbox, shall I post a selection?
re: how much you and he look/act like "Elmo the televisual buffoon"
:-)
Ian.
|
33.1861 | Erm...... | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Fri Aug 18 1995 16:34 | 5 |
| Stuart,
What's RIGHT with Hibs !!??!!
Ian.
|
33.1862 | for Mr Hawley | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Everybody was a Boxer | Fri Aug 18 1995 16:37 | 5 |
| Ian,
That was joshing around. Are you sure you can't make it tonight?
Stuart
|
33.1863 | Reasons to hate football fans - Part I | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Aug 18 1995 17:20 | 9 |
| re:.1858
Ian,
Regardless of the team you follow, and the reasons for your allegiance
to that team, I sincerely hope you're not one of these sad b*st*rds who
wears a football shirt to the games.
Dave
|
33.1864 | You're causing an allegience shift Dave....... | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Aug 18 1995 17:24 | 6 |
| eerrr ref football shirts.......I would keep the reasons to hate fans
part 1 quiet tonight Mr edwards !!!!
Flying_the_non_manc_colours_tonight_Stretch.
|
33.1865 | IMHO of course | WSTENG::DSMITH | | Fri Aug 18 1995 17:28 | 14 |
|
re last
"I sincerely hope you're not one of these sad b*st*rds who wears a
football shirt to the games."
Not half as sad as all those t*ss*rs who wear football shirts while
on holiday. Now, little kids under the age of 12 can get away with it,
but sad overweight grown ups who wear football shirts really need to
GET A F***ING LIFE. I've just returned from 2 weeks in Gran Canary and
had a right gut laugh at all those sad people.
Danny.
|
33.1866 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Aug 18 1995 17:28 | 12 |
|
Don't desert me Stretch, I need all the allies I can find - but,
you're not seriously going to wear a Reading shirt ! I've just convinced
Mike Fowler that it would be in particularly bad taste if he wore his
Villa top. Although Mr Stratford was very keen to see him in his Villa
shorts.
If it is a "wear your colours" night, just think what problems that
causes me ! Red, black, blue&white, green&yellow, disgusting shades of
grey - it's gonna take me an age to decide what to wear !
|
33.1867 | Reasons to hate football fans - Part II | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Everybody was a Boxer | Fri Aug 18 1995 17:29 | 10 |
| re -1
The other thing that I hope Ian isn't, is one of those desperately
sad little b*s*a*d* who swops his team several times throughout their
lives whenever the popularity of his/her "new club" suits them or when
their own personal circumstances dictate. Theres nothing worse than
someone who says "I used to be a fan of such and such but now I
support..." without giving a valid reason for doing so.
Stuart
|
33.1868 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Everybody was a Boxer | Fri Aug 18 1995 17:31 | 7 |
| re .1866
Nope Monsieur Edwards, I was very keen *not* to see Mike in his Villa
shorts. From what you have told me, if the food poisoning did make me
heave again, the sight of Mike in his shorts would have...
Stuart
|
33.1869 | | CHEFS::GEORGEM | I|c|e|l|a|n|d | Fri Aug 18 1995 17:54 | 6 |
| I don;t trust Leeds. I reckon they've got some kind of in-built self-destruct
mechanism that could be fired at any time. Just as they're progressing through
the Premier league fairly comfortably, beating all the crap teams, suddenly,
they'll become totally shite again.
Matt$ending_rathole
|
33.1870 | He's a nutter ! | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Aug 18 1995 17:58 | 3 |
| >I reckon they've got some kind of in-built self-destruct mechanism
I think you're referring to Howard Wilkinson !
|
33.1871 | You've got to be joking !!! | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Fri Aug 18 1995 18:12 | 10 |
| Re: Stuart
I can promise you that I have always followed my team, and not
started following them because of recent glories such as winning
the league. I have always followed Jedforest RFC, and that clearly
shows that I don't follow teams because of success !!:-)
Ian$starting_to_wish_that_he_was_going_tonight_to_watch_the_drama_unfold
|
33.1872 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Aug 18 1995 18:24 | 8 |
| Mr Stratford,
I know of at least one person, who regularly contributes to this
conference, who confessed to him that he changed teams because of his
wife-to-be. Far be it for me to reveal his name, but one of the many
teams he has supported is Man Utd.
|
33.1873 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Everybody was a Boxer | Fri Aug 18 1995 18:51 | 4 |
| Okay, its obvious that you want to spill yer guts (metaphorically) so
we'll do it via a game of hangman.
I'll get the ball rolling with an A.
|
33.1874 | fascinating Friday | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Mr Flibble says: Game over boys | Fri Aug 18 1995 18:53 | 2 |
|
'E'
|
33.1875 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Aug 18 1995 18:56 | 8 |
| Hang on chaps, lets get the grid sorted ...
____ _______
With the letters received so far,
_A__ _A_E_A_
|
33.1876 | m | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Everybody was a Boxer | Fri Aug 18 1995 18:58 | 1 |
|
|
33.1877 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Aug 18 1995 19:01 | 7 |
| Gosh, you're good at this game Stuey.
_A__ _A_EMA_
ANybody else still awake ?!
Another clue - he also confessed to "following" Liverpool as well.
|
33.1878 | I'll have an 'F' please Bob | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Everybody was a Boxer | Fri Aug 18 1995 19:08 | 6 |
| Dave,
Are you making this up? Nobody could be that fickle. Both sets of Red
Sh1te?
Stuart
|
33.1879 | Glory-seeker | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Aug 18 1995 19:11 | 4 |
| There's no F in his name. Yes I am serious. He moved to the
Liverpool area and then started following the Red Sh**e. From what he
said, he supported Utd during the mid to late 60s, Liverpool through
the 70s and early 80s and his new team since he met his missus.
|
33.1880 | ermm..how about 'P' | YUPPY::ASHLEYSMITH | knackered knee | Fri Aug 18 1995 19:13 | 1 |
|
|
33.1881 | Ooh, Ooh, Mr Peevely, Mr Peevely, we know who it is!!! | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Everybody was a Boxer | Fri Aug 18 1995 19:14 | 1 |
|
|
33.1882 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Aug 18 1995 19:15 | 5 |
| inspired ...
PA__ PA_EMA_
nearly there. Still time for you to confess if you're reading this ..
|
33.1883 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Everybody was a Boxer | Fri Aug 18 1995 19:23 | 9 |
| Too late sunshine.
PAUL PATEMAN, you have outted.
Explain yourself, young man. Explain yourself.
Hugs,
Stuart
|
33.1884 | | CHEFS::GEORGEM | I|c|e|l|a|n|d | Fri Aug 18 1995 19:36 | 6 |
| Paul Patemen?
Damn. Too late.
Matt$knewallalong,honest.
|
33.1885 | Only when a very callow youth..... | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Cuore Sportivo | Fri Aug 18 1995 20:24 | 17 |
| I own up!
In my rural youth I had a choice of Aldershot or Brentford as closest
local team, in the age of Best, Charlton & Law, like many 10 year olds
I followed Man U. At Liverpool Uni, I *WATCHED* both t'pool & Everton
and being at that time mainly a cricket man, shouted for them at the
games.
However - at the age or 22, some >>>> years ago, I did indeed start to
take an interest in the Palace courtesy of my wife & her family, and
ever since they have been my only team.
OK?
Now can I get back to doing my forecast?
paul
|
33.1886 | Yeboah to score 40+ goals this season! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Aug 21 1995 13:22 | 96 |
| Could this be Leeds' season?
++
From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"76571.3717@compuserve.com" "David J. Hudson" 20-AUG-1995 17:02:21.52
To: "(unknown)" <leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk>
CC:
Subj: Shooting Star
YEBOAH READY TO BE LEEDS' SHOOTING STAR
Tony Yeboah believes he can top the list of Premiership sharp-shooters this
season -- given the luck, service and support he enjoyed during a two-goal show
which floored West Ham at Upton Park yesterday.
The L3.4million Ghanian striker completed his move to Leeds this summer after
a highly-productive loan spell from Germany's Eintracht Frankfurt.
And, after grabbing both goals in the Yorkshiremen's 2-1 opening day success,
he said: "I've always scored lots of goals in my life because, when the chances
come, I'm ready and I stay cool -- a typical goalscorer.
"It is hard to predict how many you will score in a season because so many
factors are important.
"You need luck, the right kind of passes and the support of your team-mates
and the fans. But I will score as mamy as anybody -- if those things are all
there."
Statistics certainly back up Yeboah's claim. He hit 13 goals in 16 games to
help push Leeds into Europe at the end of last season and, if he continues that
ratio, he is well on target for the 37 which Blackburn's Alan Shearer grabbed
last term.
Yeboah admits he will need luck, but it is difficult to imagine him being
lucky enough to face a defence as generous as West Ham's every week.
He will, however, have the silver service of visionary Leeds skipper Gary
McAllister, and Yeboah says: "He passes the ball as well as anybody in the game
here. I always know he will make chances for me and others."
Hammers manager Harry Redknapp saw his side take a fifth-minute lead through
youngster Danny Williamson, but then watched Yeboah take them apart with two
stunning strikes in nine minutes after the break.
"We started well but then defended badly," admitted Redknapp, "Yeboah took
his chances well, but you would expect that from a top-class striker.
"The money Leeds paid for him is peanuts by today's standards, but I only
wish I had it.
"Ours is all gone. We've bought two players in, moved three out and the books
are balanced. Now I've got to sell again before I can buy."
Leeds boss Howard Wilkinson claims his own transfer budget is also settled
after the completion of Yeboah's move -- and the L500,000 signing of defender
Paul Beesley from Sheffield United.
Wilkinson confirmed, however, that an offer for Parma's Columbian striker
Faustino Asprilla -- believed to be around L4million -- is still on the Italian
club's table.
He said: "As far as I know they haven't turned it down, but they haven't
accepted it either.
"If the lad is still available at the right price we will take him but all
these things are a big if ... hardly worth talking about."
Wilkinson has no doubts though that his signing of Yeboah is a real winner.
He said: "Everybody seems to have been paying L6million and L7million for
players this summer. Getting him for L3.4million is an unbelievable piece of
business."
Yeboah said: "I had to make a decision whether to stay with Leeds at the
end of my loan period, but there was never much doubt once we had qualified for
Europe.
"It seems everybody wants to play in Europe now which was not the case a few
years ago when there was a lot of kick and rush in the game.
"It has improved so much over the last couple of seasons and I find it much
easier playing here than in Germany."
From Compuserve PA News
David
Vancouver
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33.1887 | 37 to go | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Aug 22 1995 16:13 | 17 |
| Incredible result for Leeds and what a goal by The Witness. I think
Leeds deserved their win on the balance of play. Liverpool look a very
good team and took an awful lot of beating. Fortunately for Leeds, Yeboah
scored a goal from right out of the top drawer and were able to defend in
depth (and with a bit of luck). Leeds had two good chances near the death
to seal the game (Deane's downward header and McAllister's side footer).
Liverpool had their own chances included Rush's tap around the post, the
ball that hit the post and Fowler's shot that Lukic has to go full stretch
to keep out. On replay the incident with Perberton and Collymore was a
penalty but it makes up for the stitch-up job Elleray did to Leeds last year
when he gave MUFC a penalty for Deane bringing down Ince outside the area.
Swings and roundabout, I suppose.
James.
P.S. For those that are interested I'm currently modelling the latest Leeds
home strip which I won last evening in a half-time raffle :-).
|
33.1888 | | VANGA::GENIE::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon - 761 4831 | Wed Aug 23 1995 21:12 | 10 |
|
1st half was a bit boring but Yeboah's strike early in the 2nd half
changed all that. Trevor Francis said it was the best goal he'd ever
seen and made Yeboah MOTH on the basis of it alone. It was a good stike
- a volley from outside the box into the top right corner - James, who
also had a good game, had no chance of stopping. Personally I think
Colleymore's strike for Liverpool on Saturday was better - shame he
left Forest.
JBG
|
33.1889 | | RTOVC0::DCASSIDY | | Wed Aug 23 1995 21:20 | 15 |
|
As they say ames ...what goes round comes round...Liverpool have had
their luck with 'getting' penalties in the past....
With the above mentioned strikers (Colleymore and Yeboah) along with
the likes of Shearer, Le Tissier, Fedinand ...we could see a lot of
goals this season like the one at Elland Road.
Just a little point that annoyed me...when Yeboah came to Leeds, most
supporters , journalists, commentators dismissed this guy (too fat,
slow etc.). Well I've seen him performing for Frankfurt for the
previous x seasons...and the goal he scored on Monday night is just a
sampler of what we'll see this season...
Dezzz.
|
33.1890 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Thu Aug 24 1995 13:24 | 12 |
| Well according to teletext last night some of the bookies are sweating
a bit as they were offering good odd (20-1 I saw a one time ) on Yeboah
being the top goal scorer in th Premier leauge.... lets hope he can
pull it off & make the bookies pay out for once.
Well I saw "Match of the Seventies" last night... Leeds were robbed of
the European Championship... there was no offside for Clarks goal & we
should have had a penalty.. its no wonder the Leeds fans rioted..
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1891 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Hmmmmmm...... | Thu Aug 24 1995 13:25 | 7 |
| Leeds will play Notts County at home in the second round of the
fizzy cup.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1892 | Typical Leeds fan... | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | J Hussey - Down in Dunure | Thu Aug 24 1995 14:45 | 11 |
| Typically a Leeds fan cannot even tell who was playing for them.
It was Clarke who was brought down by Beckenbauer in the 1st half (the ref
gave a corner by the looks of it despite Franz getting nowhere near the
ball) and Lorimer scored a screamer. Oh the ref disallowed that one.
Obligatory, we woz robbed, etc.. ref was bent, etc. Actually, seeing those
2 incidents again he probably made a tidy profit from that match (alledgedly!).
Mind you Rennie(sp) just watched Muller run past him for the 2nd goal.
|
33.1893 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Leeds 1 - Liverpool 0 | Thu Aug 24 1995 15:05 | 7 |
| >Leeds fan cannot even tell who was playing for them.
Well I was only 5 at the time... :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1894 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Aug 24 1995 15:44 | 23 |
| Re .1889
Dezzz,
And to think that you could have bought two Yeboahs for the proce
of one Cole and have enough left over to build yourself a nice
house. I've a straight fiver with a RON (Tobin, you bast*rd)
that Cole will not get 30 goals this season. He might as well
give me the money right now :-).
Re. 1892
J Hussey
> Typically a Leeds fan cannot even tell who was playing for them.
My son, that comment is below the belt. How many fans could name
the lineup of their team from 20 years ago. Most Leeds fans can
reel off 10-15 of the players from that great Leeds team without
even pausing. Of course, we have our own share of hangers-on like
any other successful team - but that's nothing new, now is it!
James.
|
33.1895 | Touchy... | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | J Hussey - Down in Dunure | Thu Aug 24 1995 15:56 | 4 |
| James,
as I support Southend I can't even name the current side let alone one from
20 years ago! Well actually, I can name a couple...
|
33.1897 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | What a wicked game to play.. to make me feel this way.. | Fri Aug 25 1995 16:22 | 6 |
| Leeds have got Monaco away in the UEFA cup... :->
How are Monacore playing this year???
Cheers,
|
33.1898 | Hard 1st round for both... | CHEFS::QUINTF | Pass the Bullets, Please | Fri Aug 25 1995 16:29 | 11 |
|
Monaco have had an average start this season. I guess they're in the middle
in the french table. They lost their last home match 0-1 to Martigues.
Djorkaeff was the best player of the team last year. He left for Paris SG.
Scifo, Petit, Di Meco are still there. Basile Boli has just joined the
team.
Fred.
|
33.1899 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Sun Aug 27 1995 01:44 | 5 |
| Re .1895
Me, touchy? Never :-).
James.
|
33.1900 | Top of the pile! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Sun Aug 27 1995 01:48 | 14 |
| Looks like Leeds had another very useful win this afternoon against a Villa
side who was also sporting a 100% record coming into the game. We set them
right on that one.
It also proved that Leeds aren't a one man scoring side either with
Wetherall/Speed and White popping up to give Leeds their third win of
the new season.
Bring on Southampton. We'll sort those lads out!
As they say, winning the league is now completely in our own hands. All we
have to do is win our next 35 games to be sure ;-).
James.
|
33.1901 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | What a wicked game to play.. to make me feel this way.. | Tue Aug 29 1995 14:24 | 5 |
| Hmmmm.. Mr. Fowler is a bit quiet this morning.....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1902 | | METSYS::ALLEN | CollyFowler | Tue Aug 29 1995 14:46 | 1 |
| Probably bleaching his hair, like his brother.
|
33.1903 | | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Kylie fan club | Tue Aug 29 1995 15:55 | 10 |
| >>>Hmmmm.. Mr. Fowler is a bit quiet this morning.....
Apart from the note in 67 saying how we got stuffed, I suppose.
Some people just don't listen. 8-)
So much for your so-called super striker though. Couldn't even score against a
40 year old with knees so bad he can hardly walk. 8-)
Mike
|
33.1904 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | What a wicked game to play.. to make me feel this way.. | Tue Aug 29 1995 16:23 | 7 |
| Hey.. it only goes to prove that we are not a 1 man team... we've got
lots of talented players who can score goals... unlike Villa...
:->>>>>>>>>>>>>
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1905 | | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Tue Aug 29 1995 16:28 | 6 |
| Hey presto...yet another Voltaire v. Dr. Johnson-style debate in the Leeds
note...
;-)
Dom
|
33.1906 | Southampton report | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Thu Aug 31 1995 16:52 | 45 |
| Went to the match last night at Southampton. The away match tactic
for this season seems to be, sit back in the first half and let the
home team throw what they can against us, and in the second come out
and go for all out attack. ( as in the West Ham game as well.... )
We could have easily been 2-0 up in the first bit of the second half
when Deano hit the post and McAllister and Speed went close but Tony
Dorigo ( 50-1 to score the first goal ) scored with a 25-yarder. We
were cruising tyhen but Yeboah went off on about 75 mins, and Deane
switched to centre forward and Worthington went out on the left. This
was the turning point as it upset the whole team. I didn't see the
Southampton goal as I was in the Milton Road end but did see it on
MotD. Deane was trying to clear off the line after a corner, when the
clearance hit Widdrington and went in. Southampton could have gone on
and won as Le Tiss ( or Matty to the so'ton fans ) beat our defence down
the dead ball line and crossed only see the shot hit the side netting.
So 1-1 was probably a fair result in the end. 100% record goes and we
are second in the league behind Newcastle. On the performances I've
seen this season, I don't think we'll win the Championship. I think we
don't attack enough away from home.... well in the first half anyway.
We should finish in the top five though.
Other points of note from the Leeds perspective :-
o Pemberton is looking at lot better than last season and the biggest
shock from last night was he didn't get booked. Pembers and Wetherall
look pretty solid.
o Gary Speed has also improved enorously. I think Wilkinson must have
had a word with him and told posing on the pitch for all his lady
admirers.... well during the game anyway. Speedo's work rate is much
higher and he saved a certain goal in the first half with an excellent
tackle in the box.
o Brian Deane plays almost as a left winger with Yoboah on his own in
the middle. He needs to get up in the middle and support him more.
o McAllister is playing as well as ever and runs the show in the
middle.
Southampton did play well but apart from Le Liss it's hard to see how
they will score goals. The biggest cheer of the night was when they
announced Man. City had lost at home to Everton. I wonder why....???
|
33.1907 | Porn on the net | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Sep 07 1995 14:21 | 49 |
| Is there nothing sacred anymore?
Read and weep!h
++
From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"gburnage@vax.ox.ac.uk" "Gavin Burnage" 6-SEP-1995
19:09:49.64
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC: gburnage@vax.ox.ac.uk
Subj: LU: List Pics from Dublin and NYC
I've weblicated a few B&W photos of the Dublin and New York meets; they're
available at
http://info.ox.ac.uk/~gburnage/listpics.html
There's a full Dublin Lards team pic, and assorted shots of Declan, James,
Nige K, Steve W, in Dublin and New York. More to come later.
If anyone else has list-related pics they want on here - pub meets at home and
abroad, holiday snaps in Leeds shirts, whatever - let me know. I can scan
stuff in if I get the originals. (Tim what happened with your List gallery?)
Cheers,
Gav
PS Sorry Gary - I have no pics of you and Rowena! Are your pics ready yet??
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33.1908 | On Eurosport | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Sep 12 1995 13:28 | 6 |
| There is a possibility that the Leeds vs. Monaco match is on Eurosport
this evening *LIVE*. I hope so. The problem is that any pub I'll be
going to, hoping to see Leeds, will probably be showing some other
match instead :-(.
James.
|
33.1909 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Tue Sep 12 1995 13:32 | 9 |
| Lets hope so... I'm supposed to be playing football tonight.. so I
might have to make a quick dash home to watch the match!! :->
In the paper it says that they ar showing Volleyball between 7-9pm &
then highlights of the football between 9 & 11:30pm.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1910 | Final score | WSTENG::DSMITH | | Wed Sep 13 1995 01:27 | 4 |
|
Monaco 0 Leeds 3 - Yeboah hat-trick
|
33.1911 | See, I told you so ... | OZROCK::OSMAN | Arif Osman | Wed Sep 13 1995 06:33 | 5 |
| Let's hope the TV companies rue their decision not to show
the Monaco vs Leeds match live in the UK. By all accounts,
Leeds produced the best English performance on the night.
--arif
|
33.1912 | IMHO | IOSG::LAYNE | | Wed Sep 13 1995 12:32 | 11 |
| Arif,
I looked at the highlights last night and although Leeds - well Yeboha
(sp!), scored three times, Monaco played the better football IMO, but
just couldn't score.
It wasn't so much of a Leeds performance, but the match was probably
the best that was played, and of course the result was the most
pleasing for English clubs.
William
|
33.1913 | | METSYS::ALLEN | CollyFowler | Wed Sep 13 1995 13:01 | 1 |
| I'm still waiting to see how well Leeds'll perform without him.
|
33.1914 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Wed Sep 13 1995 13:05 | 6 |
| Ask Aston Villa fans how well we played without Yeboah scoring... I
think they'll have to agree that they were well beaten...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1915 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Wed Sep 13 1995 13:19 | 7 |
| Well what can I say... the best result of the English teams in
Europe... outstanding second goal..... hopefully we should now reach
the second round.. :->>
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1916 | Yeboah is god | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Sep 13 1995 14:39 | 17 |
| I think Leeds will have gained a lot from last evening's performance.
Monaco were well beaten. They threw their best at us and came out
second best. As we know, all that counts is how many goals are up on
the scoreboard at the end of the game, not how well the team has
played. Monaco were well and truly outplayed where it counted last
evening. Nothing else needs to be said!
And as for Leeds without Yeboah, we've got Deane, Whelan, Speed,
McAllister, Wallace and others willing and able to score. Yeboah
isn't the kind of player to get injured (fingers crossed) too often so
we should be OK.
It was pleasantly surprising how positive that tosser Alan Green was
about the Gods last evening. It makes a change from the more usual
MUFC biased crap I had to usually endure from him!
James.
|
33.1917 | Dry Martini F.C. | YUPPY::OHAGANB | Vatican Radio Techno | Wed Sep 13 1995 14:53 | 5 |
| Funky old stadium they've got in Monaco isn't it? Very unusual for a
football ground. Half expected to see chandaleers (sp?) hanging above
the centre circle instead of floodlights.
Barry.
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33.1918 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Wed Sep 13 1995 15:05 | 13 |
| >It makes a change from the more usual MUFC biased crap I had to
>usually endure from him!
Yep.. it did... he's probably gone and got himself a Leeds Utd Shirt
now.. :->
George Graham is an excellent co-commentator... I can definately see
why he took Arsenal so far... he has such insite into the game...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1919 | | METSYS::ALLEN | CollyFowler | Wed Sep 13 1995 15:49 | 1 |
| insight as well Rick.
|
33.1920 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Sep 13 1995 16:05 | 5 |
| Re -1
Envy is a terrible thing you know! You should have something done about it!
James.
|
33.1921 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Wed Sep 13 1995 16:40 | 9 |
| Great result last night. Though looking at the highlights, the luck was with
them. Anderson(?) should have had a couple.
Any news on Boli & The Keeper. That was a nasty collision as Yeboah scored the
3rd. Last night they said that they both had neck injuries, and Boli had an
epileptic fit, with a possible fractured skull. I hope they make a speedy
recovery.
Al
|
33.1922 | Fox for Leeds | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Sep 13 1995 16:52 | 2 |
| Just heard that Leeds have just signed Fox from Newcastle. Things just
get better and better!
|
33.1923 | All is well (sort of)... | CLARID::KREYER | Andre KREYER, Sophia Antipolis (FR) | Wed Sep 13 1995 19:07 | 8 |
|
>Any news on Boli & The Keeper.
The doctors have found nothing unusual on both Boli and Delaroche
(the goalie), but for further safety, they'll keep a close eye on
them for a further day. They are both supposed to be able to leave
the hospital tomorrow (Friday)...
.Andre.
|
33.1924 | Not football? | TUXEDO::HINXMAN | Let's all laugh for a moment | Wed Sep 13 1995 23:51 | 5 |
| I gather that commenting on Leeds United is consistent with any
ban on "football-related activities" that the FA may have imposed
on GG.
Tony
|
33.1925 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Sep 14 1995 12:54 | 7 |
| Hohoho... a comedian....
Must have taken you several years to think up that one....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1926 | Ahem. | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Sep 14 1995 13:11 | 8 |
| re.1922
James,
The transfer speculation surrounding Leeds signing players is as
accurate as that based on Arsenal signing players.
Stuart
|
33.1927 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Lovely Day for a Guinness | Thu Sep 14 1995 14:09 | 7 |
| some papers are reporting that Yeboah could be on his way to AC Milan
or some German club for 7 million quid!!!!....
....the usual denials from the club, but 7 million would be hard to
turn down....
Ray....
|
33.1928 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Sep 14 1995 14:27 | 9 |
| He better not be... 7 million is nothing for a striker these days... he
worth more than Shearer.. and he's supposed to be worth 10 million...
He must be worth at least 13-15 million.... with our crazy transfer
prices.....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1929 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Sep 14 1995 14:32 | 6 |
| Rick,
How do you work out that Yeboah is worth more than Shearer? Has Yeboah
single-handedly scored enough goals to win a Championship? Thought not.
Stuart
|
33.1930 | To say he's woth 7 million.. he don't score many Euro goals! | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Sep 14 1995 14:34 | 10 |
| I'll answer that one at the end of the season....
The question you should ask is :
Will Mr. Shearer score enough goals to keep Blackburn in the
European Cup Competiton???
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1931 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Sep 14 1995 14:37 | 6 |
| You should be more concerned with how many Yeboah scores. He may have
won you this tie but don't be too confident about the next round.
Especially when you meet the Russians who are going to dump on the
Scousers.
Stuart
|
33.1932 | Sophisticated, I've even been to Leeds! | CHEFS::NASH | | Thu Sep 14 1995 14:41 | 9 |
|
Mr Morrell,
Consistency mate. Why pay all that money for someone who may be a one
season wonder? Remember Clive Allen, Steve Bull etc etc. Besides, the
Pope got upset when Lemtini (Sp?) went to milan for 13.5 million, who
will he escalate to if Yeboah goes for more!!!
BTW. He's playing well at the mo, probably worth his weight in Lard...
|
33.1933 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Sep 14 1995 14:42 | 12 |
| >but don't be too confident about the next round.
>Especially when you meet the Russians....
We're not worried...
We'll offer them a new tractor & 5lb spuds if they throw the match..
That should be more than enough....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1934 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Sep 14 1995 14:43 | 9 |
| >Consistency mate.
Thats why he was the top scorer in the German League for the last 2
seasons before he joined Leeds... I'd say that the German leagues were
better than the Premiership....
Cheers,
Rick
|
33.1935 | | METSYS::ALLEN | CollyFowler | Thu Sep 14 1995 14:47 | 4 |
| Just 'cos he's in your fantasy footie team Rick and he's your idol.
Looks like we might get a chance to see how well Leeds minus Yeboah
really is.
|
33.1936 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Sep 14 1995 15:17 | 14 |
| Re last few
Clive Allen was a one season wonder, I'll agree. Yeboah is not on the
other hand. Gert Muller has said that Yeboah was the only current
player that might ever break his german league scoring record. It's a
well known fact that he was one of the best, if not the best, striker
in the german league for the past 4 years (not 2 as Rick might have
said). These statements are not consistant with the tag: one season
wonder.
As I said before Envy is a terrible thing! We have him, <insert your
favourite team> don't.
James.
|
33.1937 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Sep 14 1995 15:23 | 14 |
33.1938 | | YUPPY::OHAGANB | Vatican Radio Techno | Thu Sep 14 1995 15:33 | 16 |
|
> seasons before he joined Leeds... I'd say that the German leagues were
> better than the Premiership....
I'd say that that the pace of the game allows for superior technical
ability in Germany and coaching techniques are probably of a higer
standard as a result. However, neither country has exactly set Europe
on fire, for want of a better expression, in recent years. In fact,
if that's the criteria for measuring suucess then English clubs just
might shade it with United and Arsenal's ECWC victories. I can only
recall Werder Bremen's ECWC victory as Germany's only European success
in the last five years unless there was a UEFA triumph somewhere along
the way.
Barry.
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33.1939 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Sep 14 1995 15:58 | 7 |
| >not 2 as Rick might have said
Wasn't he the top scoring striker for only 2 seasons...??
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1940 | A 2-seaon wonder or a 4-season wonder? | VARESE::TRNUX1::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Thu Sep 14 1995 16:30 | 4 |
| Could it be that Rick's mantle as Aspiring Anthony Yeboah Biographer is
threatened?
Dom
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33.1941 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Sep 14 1995 16:33 | 6 |
| Who cares what he did before.... as long as he's scoring for us against
the rest of the teams in the Premiership... that is all that matters...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1942 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Sep 14 1995 17:06 | 11 |
| Barry,
I think Bayer Leverkusen won the UEFA Cup on penalties a few seasons
back but the closest in recent years must be Borussia Dortmund a couple
of years ago when they lost to Juventus in the final.
Oi, Morrell. Answer the question. Also, do so in your own words and not
those of somebody else. We'll have none of this wildly inaccurate
statements in here young man.
Stuart
|
33.1943 | I've yet to work out how to change the username | CHEFS::absip36.reo.dec.com::SALESPERSON | | Wed Sep 20 1995 14:27 | 5 |
| Is it not a little quiet in here today ?
Didn't the boy yeboah score last night ?
Roll on October 3rd
|
33.1944 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Sep 20 1995 14:39 | 5 |
| The boy Yeboah has only scored in one of the last four games. Leeds
have only won once in the last four games hence the assertion that they
are a one man team.
Stuart
|
33.1945 | Devon White Is His Name | CHEFS::absip36.reo.dec.com::SALESPERSON | | Wed Sep 20 1995 14:44 | 4 |
| Stuart,
You mean much like the team they were playing last night !
|
33.1946 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Sep 20 1995 14:46 | 3 |
| Aah yes but that team is two divisions lower.
Stuart
|
33.1947 | RON and Notts County | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Sep 20 1995 20:25 | 20 |
| Another glorious episode in the recent history of Leeds United in the
cup competitions (in the 90's) came to pass last evening at the
theatre of dreams. It follow on from such classics of recent vintage
as: Watford, Sunderland, Mansfield and Walsall (nearly).
What the f&ck is the problem with Leeds and so called inferior teams
in the cup competitions? It ceases to amaze me (well it shouldn't but
it does) how badly Leeds do against 2nd and 3rd division teams :-(.
We have no problem motivating ourselves to spear the big fishes but
it's the little fishes that screw us up.
I'm not to confident of a result at Notts County in the replay and
suggest a visit to the local bookie to check out the odds on Notts
County turning us over there! Recent history suggests you'll get a
good run for your money.
James (who bets to subsidise his full-time employment in Digital).
P.S. This betting doesn't include the recent poker session undertaken
with a RON (Read Only Noter) of this notesfile.
|
33.1948 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Sep 20 1995 20:29 | 5 |
| James,
It isn't a replay. Its called a second leg.
Stuart
|
33.1949 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Sep 20 1995 21:59 | 7 |
| Re -1
Stu,
What's the difference, other than maybe if it ends in a score draw?
James.
|
33.1950 | Still, could have been worse. You could be a Man U fan | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Sep 21 1995 12:44 | 7 |
| James,
In Leeds case, they have to score to have any chance of going through
(so do Mansfield, sorry Notts County). But a score draw is enough (I
think away goals rules count at this stage.
Stuart
|
33.1951 | Only after extra-time | CHEFS::TREETON | | Thu Sep 21 1995 13:36 | 8 |
| If the scores are level at full time then extra-time is played. Only
if scores are level after that are away goals taken into account.
Bill
PS.
That is the same for the whole of the competition.
|
33.1952 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Sep 21 1995 13:39 | 5 |
| Bill,
I didn't think away goals counted in the semi finals.
Stuart
|
33.1953 | Extra time won't be needed | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Sep 21 1995 14:28 | 5 |
| I think .1951 is correct. Away goals only count in
extra-time! We won't need that; County will beat us
in normal time, the way things are going currently ;-(.
James.
|
33.1954 | Semi Finals?? | CHEFS::TREETON | | Thu Sep 21 1995 16:20 | 20 |
| Stuart,
Not sure about the Semi's maybe maybe not. However I can't
remember many close semi finals of recent years, maybe one of the
statisticians out there will know.
As notes 32, 33 & 34 seem to involve most of the football fans of
DEC in some form or another and occasionally a subject far removed
from football rears it head like Cartoons on TV etc. I would like
to interject a subtle aside here.
Whilst walking along the banks of the Thames last night through
the grounds of Tescos there were rather a large amount of Horse
Chestnuts, coloquially known as "Conkers", on the ground. Don't
kids of today play that good old game of conkers any more. If not
they don't know what they are missing. Any comments, fond memories
of that 100er or 200er being beaten by a conker soaked in vinegar
and baked in the oven etc. etc.
Bill
|
33.1955 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Sep 21 1995 18:13 | 16 |
| > Chestnuts, coloquially known as "Conkers", on the ground. Don't
> kids of today play that good old game of conkers any more. If not
So what makes you think that anyone in the Leeds United topic would
know anything about Conkers eh? I think kids these days are more likely
to have a virtual reality/computer generated Nintendo-Sega mega games
colsole simulating the game than actually engaging in the real thing.
Haven't you heard of the horrendous injuries caused to the...............
Conkers as a result of this barbarous game. Amnesty International
should be told ;-).
Finally, I think many kids have gone away from the simple pleasures of
life and into a world that is copmletely dominated by TV/Video/Compters.
James.
|
33.1956 | | METSYS::ALLEN | CollyFowler | Thu Sep 21 1995 18:47 | 3 |
| >>colsole simulating
Err...do you mean coleslaw simulating or coldsore simulating?
|
33.1957 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Sun Sep 24 1995 15:22 | 12 |
| Well I've only got one word to say to you all....
YEBOAH!!!!!!!!
What a second goal.... looks like Yeboah has won the "Goal of the
Month" competition again.....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1958 | Another week, another hat-trick | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Acid Works Support | Mon Sep 25 1995 02:29 | 10 |
|
To add to -1
Wimbledon 2 Leeds United 4
Palmer
Yeboah 3
Back on track. Another hat-trick. 10 from 9 this season. 23 from 26
since he joined Leeds. Time to take those Cunno pills again ;-)
|
33.1959 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Mon Sep 25 1995 11:39 | 3 |
| and yet more proof that Leeds are a one-man team.....
Stuart
|
33.1960 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Mon Sep 25 1995 11:57 | 22 |
| Unlike Arsenal who used to & still do depend on Ian Wright...
And Blackburn who depend on Alan Shearer....
etc..
etc..
There is nothing wrong with having one good goal scorer... as long as
the rest of the team can back them up with some goals...
Stu... you'll remember "Massinga" from the Arsenal match,
Brian Deane from the ManU match....
Carlton Palmer from the matches at the end of last season...
We have plenty of players that can score goals....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1961 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Mon Sep 25 1995 12:14 | 13 |
| Rick,
You miss the point. Arsenal have won on a regular basis, and still do,
if Wright doesn't score. Their is nothing wrong with having one main
striker. A problem arises when he is the only one scoring.The accusation
being levelled at Leeds this season is based on *fact*. Leeds have lost the
games that Yeboah didn't score in (Notts Co being the exception!) and don't
appear to have anyone who is willing to take responsibility for scoring.
One injury and your season could be shot. This is the same problem Arsenal
had last year. Fortunately, we had other players capable of scoring the one
goal that Arsenal found necessary to win games.
Stuart
|
33.1962 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Mon Sep 25 1995 12:30 | 10 |
| >Leeds have lost the games that Yeboah didn't score in ..
Errrmm... what about against Villa.... & Southampton...
He didn't score in any of thos matches.. but we still won & drew
them...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1963 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Mon Sep 25 1995 12:36 | 13 |
| Rick,
Hmmm, so that was two games. OK, but what about the other 3 games last
week when he didn't score? Now that makes it 5 games he didn't score in
and Leeds won 1. Now by my reckoning, that indicates that Leeds will
not win 80% (Indeed 60% will end in defeat) of the games that Yeboah
doesn't score in. For a team who are reckoned (by their supporters
anyway) to be Championship contenders that is not good enough. No team
has ever won a Championship on the back of one players goals alone.
Even Blackburn last year had Sutton, Hendry and the non-descript
midfielders that they possess, scoring goals to supplement Shearer.
Stuart
|
33.1964 | strength in depth wins the league | FORTY2::JONES | Neil | Mon Sep 25 1995 13:39 | 11 |
|
Stuart,
I agree. A winning team has goals supplied by a broad range of players.
Both Blackburn and Man Utd last season had a fair number of players
who were scoring an average amount of goals. Liverpool just had Fowler
and thus if he didn't score then we did very badly.
However its early days yet...
Neil
|
33.1965 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Sep 25 1995 20:28 | 9 |
| > Time to take those Cunno pills again ;-)
What exactly are these _Cunno Pills_ and can anyone take them?
Also from your personal name is your work concerned with E, LSD, or just
plain acid and is there any connection with the aforementioned Cunno
Pills? Cunno won't be impressed.
James.
|
33.1966 | Thoughts on Saturday's game (long) | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Sep 25 1995 21:46 | 50 |
| I was lucky enough to see the game on RTE TV Saturday. They have
re-started showing top Premiership matches on the Irish Channel this
season. I was pretty apprehensive before the match knowing our recent
form and the recent history of the tie (2 goals in five years).
I though the headed Leeds goal that was disallowed early in the game
was good as both players who were "off-side" probably weren't when the
ball was first played. Masinga was quite unlucky with his header off
the bar and Wetherall more so with at least one bullet header that the
keeper knew absolutely nothing about. The opening goal came from
nothing; the second more so. Palmer had a great shot from outside the
area evade the goalkeeper and into the net. Poor defending allowed
Deane's through ball to get to its destination - Yeboah - for the
second goal. Leeds then conceded a very soft goal from a corner set
piece. I thought Lukic should have had it covered. Certainly the
defending should have been better then it was.
There is nothing that can be said about the third goal except the
words: true genius. If only Leeds had more players like Yeboah;
players that can conjure something out of nothing, something special.
In the second half Leeds sat back and got caught when Deane headed the
ball into the Wimbledon's man path for their second goal. Sloppy back
play again! Yeboah made sure of the game when Masinga has a poor,
poor pass come luckily off the Wimbledon defender's foot. Yeboah
doesn't miss from 10 yards in situations like this. Palmer should
have made it 5 with a one-on-one with the goalkeeper with minutes left
on the clock. He was also very unlucky with seconds to go when the
goalkeeper made a brilliant save from another piledriver.
Lukic played OK but lacks command of his own area. The defence, in
general, did OK but gave away TWO soft goals and other half-chances
better teams might have put away. Midfield were OK, nothing special.
Palmer was probably the best of them. Speed or Macca did little of
any consequence. Deane and Masinga did OK. I still feel that Masinga
lacks the critical mass that makes a really good forward. I could be
wrong but he wasn't as dangerous as Yeboah or Deane was on Saturday.
Maybe he'll improve with time. Deane worked hard and did little wrong
again. He needs a goal though to boast confidence. I don't think he
had a shot on target all day. Yeboah is Yeboah! He did what he's
paid to do: score goals; one was a tap in, the second was out of the
top drawer and the third was one that a good forward will put away
most times.
Wimbledon were poor, Leeds made them pay. If only Leeds could put
similarly placed teams away like this more often, we'd be there or
thereabouts all the time, and not fighting for the crumbs from the big
boys' table i.e. 5th or 6th.
James.
|
33.1967 | Yeboah scores others just keep missing | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Acid Works Support | Tue Sep 26 1995 03:01 | 15 |
|
> Acid Works ...
Afraid it refers to work, as in POLYCENTER AssetWORKS. I keep getting
call back messages referring to Acid Works. Then again maybe the
messages are about E or LSD!!!
Saw the game on TV here last night. Yeboah's second goal was better
then the Liverpool one. But his finishing highlights how many chances
the rest of the team miss. From the highlights Leeds should have
scored at least a couple more, some of the misses (like Palmers
one-on-one or that header which should have been headed down not at
the keeper) were bad. You don't get 8-10 great chances every game.
I can see how Charlton scored 5 against Wimbledon last week now! How
did they beat Liverpool? and keep a clean sheet!!
|
33.1968 | | YUPPY::PANES | Gone troppo | Tue Sep 26 1995 11:35 | 6 |
| According to a survey conducted by the Norman Thingy Institute,
Leeds fans are the "poorest" in the Premier League. Funnily enough,
The Squatters ( Wimbledon ) are apparently the best off - money
can't buy everything.
Stuart
|
33.1969 | Best sheep | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Sep 26 1995 12:34 | 5 |
| Re -1
That's because we've spent all our cash on getting the best sheep ;-).
James.
|
33.1970 | 5 Days to Go | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Tue Sep 26 1995 19:24 | 5 |
| <<< Note 33.1966 by XSTACY::JLUNDON "http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-)" >>>
>>>If only Leeds had more players like Yeboah;
>>>players that can conjure something out of nothing, something special.
They had, but they sold him to us for a million.
|
33.1971 | Some way of repaying us! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Sep 26 1995 20:11 | 7 |
| Re -1
Brian,
And this is how you repay us - by throwing it in our faces ;-).
James.
|
33.1972 | Leeds 0 - 1 Monaco | MOEUR8::SMITH | | Wed Sep 27 1995 11:37 | 21 |
|
So Leeds go through!
But they were crap! There's been a lot of discussion in this
conference about Leeds being a 'one-man' team, I can now provide a
un-biassed view of the team having seen them!
Yebohah was marked out of the game, he did nothing, and his marker
Basil Boli (who is *old*!).
The other guy, White is it?, did nothing either! The ones who
impressed for me, were Lukic and the no. 10 (McAllister is it?).
However, Monaco played with speed and skill, the second half was
one-way traffic apart from about 5 minutes of Leeds pressure. Shifo
looked good, but wasn't the controlling authority in midfield he used
to be, possibly because of the other players around him, who are all
class. Petit (however he spells it) was superb in defence, and
Anderson up front is always dangerous.
|
33.1973 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Wed Sep 27 1995 11:50 | 13 |
| >White is it
He's rubbish... the only reason he was in the side was due to us
having Dorigo etc injured... and the fact that he's English...
Yep.. no 10 is McAllister... good player on his day..
How did the Leeds youngsters play... Couzens & Tinkler.. they were
the two Leeds subs...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1974 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Sep 27 1995 11:58 | 4 |
| So, Rick, not going to defend Leeds (x3) against the one man team
accusation?
Stuart
|
33.1975 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Wed Sep 27 1995 12:02 | 10 |
| Hey.. we're in the next round of the UEFA cup...
ManU aren't... what more is there to say....
I'm just happy with that fact...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1976 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Sep 27 1995 12:15 | 5 |
| Err, in 66% of the games that Yeboah doesn't score, Leeds (x3) lose?
hth,
Stuart
|
33.1977 | Comments... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Sep 27 1995 18:25 | 24 |
| Tactics:
Last night Leeds played as a team that wanted to shut up shop and
try to protect a 3-0 lead. This is what they did, albeit they did
go down by a goal. Monaco were made look good because of the
manner Leeds allowed them space to play their sort of game. However,
one must look over the two legs to see that Leeds played the better
and deserved to go through. I bet there are a lot of MUFC fans out
there this afternoon who wished their team were in the same position
as Leeds are right now. I won't even bother thinking about how
much money MUFC have lost as a result of their early round exit
from the UEFA Cup.
Yeboah:
It seems Stuart that you are inordinately worried about Yeboah being
a one man team. Why don't you come over to our side of the fence
altogether and "come out"? It's alright to admit to being a Leeds
fan. I've done it and I'm the better for it. Statistics can be
used to prove almost anything, as you've tried to do with the fact
that in the three games Leeds have lost this term, Yeboah hasn't
scored.
James ;-).
|
33.1978 | | IOSG::HARDIE | In an office where the air-conditioning never works | Wed Sep 27 1995 18:54 | 8 |
| Stuart,
If you look at the statistics there was a time when if Ian Rush scored
for Liverpool he never ended up on the losing side and I can't remember
Liverpool being called a one-man team.
Neil
|
33.1979 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Sep 27 1995 19:37 | 16 |
| Neil
Thats because Liverpool were a good side. Not, as with this Leeds side,
overhyped out of proportion as title challengers when one person is the
only bugger scoring.
BTW you mention Ian Rush's record. Do you know who ended it? No? Then
I'll tell you.
April 5 1987. Wembley. Littlewoods Cup Final.
Liverpool 1 Arsenal 2
Hugs
Stuart
|
33.1980 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Sep 27 1995 19:52 | 15 |
| > Thats because Liverpool were a good side. Not, as with this Leeds side,
> overhyped out of proportion as title challengers when one person is the
> only bugger scoring.
Overhyped my Arse! Stu, you must have lost the run of yourself if you
think that Leeds are being overhyped as title challangers. Most Leeds
fans don't believe that Leeds are true title challangers so I don't see
how anyone else could consider us possible champions. Bitten off a
little more than you can chew?
Being realistic, I think Leeds can finish in the top 5 and maybe do
something of one of the cups - this is dependent on us finishing the
season with the team that started the season.
James.
|
33.1981 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Sep 28 1995 10:56 | 6 |
| Er,
You might like to tell Rick that Leeds aren't the best in the country
then.
Stuart
|
33.1982 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Sep 28 1995 12:49 | 14 |
|
> Leeds aren't the best in the country
Since I'm from Leeds I'm not about to say that another team are better
than my home town team...
Well in the Express it says that we are putting in a bid for Chris
Waddle... I don't know whether he'd want to come to Leeds.. he
certainly didn't the last time we made a bid for him.. but it must be
better than Sheffield Wednesday...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1983 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Fri Sep 29 1995 15:17 | 5 |
| Anyone know what the draw was for the UEFA cup??
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1984 | PSV | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 16:40 | 7 |
| Re -1
PSV. It looks like a good draw for us. If we are to win the thing we
have to beat teams like PSV. If we are not to win then it's probably
better to get knocked out as early as possible IMHO.
James.
|
33.1985 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Fri Sep 29 1995 18:55 | 5 |
| So are you coming over for this game James???
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.1986 | Date For Home Leg | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Fri Sep 29 1995 18:58 | 6 |
| RE: -2
Anyone know when the home leg will be?
Shafiq.
|
33.1987 | An answer that is both useful and useless | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Sep 29 1995 18:59 | 5 |
| Either 2 weeks before or after the away leg.
hth
Stuart
|
33.1988 | | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Fri Sep 29 1995 19:59 | 11 |
|
Reminds me of the accountants joke....
A guy travelling over the landscape in a hot-air ballon ;being lost and
seeing sombody in a field below shout's down.."Where am I ????"
Replyfrom accountant in field: In a baloon....
Point: Answer is perfectly correct but absolutely useless....
Dezzz.
|
33.1989 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:13 | 9 |
| Re: PSV
I'm very tempted to try and make it over. I'll keep my ear to the ground
for any packages and let you know Rick :-).
Nice to see that Shafiq is still with us too. I thought the man was lost
in action ;-).
James.
|
33.1990 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:13 | 1 |
| I'm a sad bastard .1990
|
33.1991 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:13 | 1 |
| I'm a sad bastard .1991
|
33.1992 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:14 | 1 |
| I'm a sad bastard .1992
|
33.1993 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:14 | 1 |
| I'm a sad bastard .1993
|
33.1994 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:14 | 1 |
| I'm a sad bastard .1994
|
33.1995 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:14 | 1 |
| I'm a sad bastard .1995
|
33.1996 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:14 | 1 |
| I'm a sad bastard .1996
|
33.1997 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:14 | 1 |
| I'm a sad bastard .1997
|
33.1998 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:15 | 1 |
| I'm a sad bastard .1998
|
33.1999 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:15 | 1 |
| I'm a sad bastard .1999
|
33.2000 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:15 | 1 |
| SNARF!
|
33.2001 | Very Sad indeed.....What is the world coming too??? | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Just another Day!! | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:24 | 0 |
33.2002 | only cos he beat you too it !!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Sep 29 1995 20:37 | 3 |
| What do you expect from a Leeds(x3) fan.
Stretch.
|
33.2004 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Sun Oct 01 1995 14:49 | 7 |
| Anyone know if the Leeds vs PSV match is going to be shown on TV??
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2005 | PSV EINDHOVEN!! WHO!! | JGO::KOOPMANS | | Tue Oct 03 1995 13:52 | 8 |
| Hello Leeds fans,
I am from Holland and certainly not a fan of PSV Eindhoven, but what
Iam wondering, are you familiar with the players of this team?
Cheers,
Harrie
|
33.2006 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Tue Oct 03 1995 13:54 | 8 |
| Nope.. I've never heard of the players in the PSV team.. but they are
supposed to have a good Brazilian striker.. ??
How are they playing this year???
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2007 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Oct 03 1995 14:34 | 21 |
| Harrie,
> I am from Holland and certainly not a fan of PSV Eindhoven
Why aren't PSV liked in the Netherlands? I've gotten the same
impression from other sources.
Some people from the PSV mail list have joined the Leeds mailing
list for the duration of the tie in a sort of cross-cultural
experience. They have promised to communicate in English for
the benefit of those of us whose Dutch isn't upto scratch :-).
PCV seem to have quite a number of dangerous players from all
accounts. Anyone in particular, we should look out for? I've
heard that Ronaldo thinks he's the next Pele. Wait until he mets
'ur Pemberton. He'll teach the new Pele a thing or two!
Leeds vs. PSV should be a very even tie, that may be won on away
goals, IMHO.
James.
|
33.2008 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Tue Oct 03 1995 14:40 | 5 |
| James,
Only if Yeboah scores....
Stuart
|
33.2009 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Tue Oct 03 1995 14:45 | 5 |
| He's got Yeboah on the brain!!
Cheers,
Rick
|
33.2010 | PSCV EINDHOVEN!! WHO!! | JGO::KOOPMANS | | Tue Oct 03 1995 15:55 | 22 |
| Yes Rick, this fabulous Brazilian player is called Ronaldo. He scored 5
goals against Mypa in the first round and produced 3 assists. Not to
bad I think.
Last year He scored 30 goals in the premier league and he only played
20 games. His style is the same as Romario's, but I think he will be
better. This is probably his last season in Eindhoven and move to Inter
Milan next year.
PSV Eindhoven this season won 6 of their 7 games. They are second in
table now and play very well at the moment. Last weekend they beat
Feyenoord Rotterdam ( 3-0 ).
Yesterday Leeds coach was on Dutch television and I was suprised
that he doesn't knew anything of PSV. The only thing he knew that
they were a good team.
Please don't underestimate them. Also Luc Nilis(from Belgium) and
Wim Jonk (Dutch International) are good players.
Cheers,
Harrie
|
33.2011 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Oct 03 1995 16:05 | 11 |
| > Yesterday Leeds coach was on Dutch television and I was suprised
> that he doesn't knew anything of PSV. The only thing he knew that
> they were a good team.
Come the game Wilko will know everything he'll need to know to beat
PC!
And as for Stu and his fixation for Yeboah, all I can say is - yet
again - it's OK to admit to being a follower of the true faith ;-)!
James (a Yeboah' Witness).
|
33.2012 | Salt in the wounds ........ | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Oct 04 1995 12:27 | 7 |
| You Jammy B'stards !!!! 90th minute
As if the York (predictable) result was not bad enough !!! At least
Reading got their sh*t together away from home at last.
Not_chuffed_Stretch.
|
33.2013 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Oct 04 1995 12:35 | 6 |
| Stretch,
Console yourself with the thought that they only got through because
County were down to 10 men.
Stuart
|
33.2014 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Wed Oct 04 1995 12:37 | 7 |
| We won and no goal from Tony Yeboah.... so it looks like we are now the
complete article & should hence win the FA Cup.. Fizzy Cup,.. UEFA Cup
& the league!!!
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2015 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Oct 04 1995 12:39 | 4 |
| If everybody in Leeds has the same sense of direction as you, then the
team will struggle to make any fixtures let alone win any games.
|
33.2016 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Oct 04 1995 17:20 | 13 |
| Re: County last evening.
I think Leeds did a good job getting over County last night (more than
what the lot in 32.* did against their lower division club). Yeboah,
I thought, got the second goal?
It's likely that Leeds will draw the Arse in the next round, given our
recent "luck" in the cup competitions. It seems that we've played
Arsenal 6 times and MUFC 5 times in the past five years in both
domestic cup competitions. Our record against either side is very
poor BTW :-(.
James.
|
33.2017 | Where's me Yorkie Bar ? | IOSG::STANDAGE | My hovercraft is full of eels | Wed Oct 04 1995 17:22 | 7 |
|
Funny....Rick never mentions the cup defeats MU have inflicted over
Leeds in recent years...
Kevin.
|
33.2018 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Wed Oct 04 1995 20:04 | 9 |
| >Yeboah, I thought, got the second goal?
The scorer was McAllister, Couzens & Speed....
Its was Couzens first league goal.
Cheers
Rick.
|
33.2019 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Oct 04 1995 20:52 | 6 |
| Re -1
I should have known better as Stu wasn't in barking
"Yeboah - one man team" first thing this morning.:-).
James.
|
33.2020 | The tide has turned ... | OZROCK::OSMAN | Arif Osman | Thu Oct 05 1995 04:25 | 8 |
| What's that saying about a thousand monkeys and a thousand typewriters?
I'm sure the draw monkeys will manage to deliver a minnow in the next
round for us. Then, we will be well placed to act complacent, exit the
competition, make excuses about injuries, take consolation in fixture
de-congestion, and ......
Arif (we never do well in cup competitions) Osman
|
33.2021 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 11:04 | 10 |
| re .2018
Plank,
>Its was Couzens first league goal.
That was impressive and also impossible. They were playing in the
Coca-Cola Cup.
Stuart
|
33.2022 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Oct 05 1995 11:29 | 6 |
| >Coca-Cola Cup.
Isn't it the Coca-Cola FOOTBALL LEAGUE cup...??
Cheers,
|
33.2023 | CCC draw | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Oct 05 1995 11:38 | 62 |
| I feel a sense of deja-vu vis a vis Derby and Watford a few years ago :-(.
At least we didn't get the Arse :-).
James.
From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"afalkingbridge@cix.compulink.co.uk" "MAIL-11 Daemon"
5-OCT-1995 07:34:57.07
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
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Subj: Fizzy Pop R3 Draw...
Direct from GMTV (featuring David O'Leary), the 3rd round of the
Coca-Cola cup has produced the following ties:
Stoke v Newcastle
Watford v Blackburn
Reading v Bury
QPR v York
Coventry v Spurs
Southampton v West Ham
Derby v Leeds
Millwall v Sheff Wed
Birmingham City v Tranmere
Wolves v Charlton
Bolton v Leicester
Crystal Palace v Middlesbrough
Norwich v Bradford
Barnsley v Arsenal
Villa v Stockport
Liverpool v Man City
Ties to be played w/c 27 Oct
-- Andrew Falkingbridge
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|
33.2024 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 11:38 | 5 |
| Plank,
Stop trying to back out of it boy.
Stuart
|
33.2025 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Oct 05 1995 11:55 | 5 |
| > Plank
Is this "nice to Leeds fans in their own topic" day Stu?
James.
|
33.2026 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Oct 05 1995 11:55 | 6 |
| Derby... Hmmm... I'm not sure what to make of the draw.. I can't make
up my mind whether its is good or bad!
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2028 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 12:21 | 17 |
| Well, for a start you will get all of the necessary words to make a
sentence readable:
James
>Is this " nice to Leeds fans in their own topic" day Stu?
^^
The word "Be" would have helped make this easier on the eye.
Plank
>But what can expect from a typical Arse fan
^^^
Either the word "One" or the word "You" would have worked well here.
Stuart
|
33.2027 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Oct 05 1995 12:33 | 5 |
| But what can you expect from a typical Arse fan
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2029 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Oct 05 1995 12:34 | 5 |
| What do you mean Stu??
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2030 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 12:37 | 7 |
| Plank,
Deleting notes doesn't actually impress anyone.
Or do you spell your name in a "Young Ones"-type manner?
Stuart
|
33.2031 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 05 1995 12:48 | 8 |
| >Or do you spell your name in a "Young Ones"-type manner?
Stuart,
Do you mean "Rick with a silent P" ?
Dave
|
33.2032 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 13:11 | 8 |
| Dave,
So who are the rest of the cast then? Does Stretch qualify as Neil? Is
Panesy Vivian? Or is he Special Patrol Group?
I think we should be told.
Stuart
|
33.2033 | Nice suit, Stuart !!! | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Thu Oct 05 1995 13:14 | 10 |
| You could be a great Alexei Sayle though, Stuart.
You just need to wear the white socks and the pork-pie hat, cos your
trousers are already short enough !!!
Tee Hee Hee
Ian.
|
33.2034 | The Young Ones, darlin we're the young ones !!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Oct 05 1995 13:18 | 10 |
| Stuart/Balowski (sp)
If you imply I am of the Neil/hippy variety again you will receive
the full on anarcho/psycho Vivian side of my persona !!!
Bored_Bored_Bored_Bored_Bored_Bored_Stretch
P.S Even mindless violence is boring today !!!! (thwack !!)
|
33.2035 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 13:21 | 13 |
| Ian,
I'm chuffed. I thought you would have said it was because I'm of an
aggressive and obnoxious personality!
Cheers,
Stuart
BTW You omitted the Doctor Martens boots.
|
33.2036 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 05 1995 14:19 | 4 |
| >Is Panesy Vivian?
Are you implying that Panesy is an aggressive, loud-mouthed thug, with a
ridiculous hairstyle and terrible dress-sense ?
|
33.2037 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 14:43 | 5 |
| Dave,
No but judging from your comments, you obviously do.
Stuart
|
33.2038 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Oct 05 1995 14:46 | 14 |
| Stu,
Re: .2028
To BE or not to BE, that is the question?
You haven't thought of going into the teaching profession? You'd make
a great christian brother!
> Deleting notes doesn't actually impress anyone.
I presume there is a story behind this?
James.
|
33.2039 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 14:55 | 13 |
| Jimbo,
Yep, Rick (with a silent P) had copied a grammatically incorrect
comment from your note into his original note. He then proceeded to
make a grammatical error in his comment and I commented on these in
my note. By the time I had entered it, Plank had deleted his note
and re-entered it (without the comment on from your note) in its
grammatically correct state.
Stuart
BTW 'christian' should have a capital 'C'.
|
33.2040 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Cryin' when I met ya, now I'm tryin' to forget ya.. | Thu Oct 05 1995 15:28 | 5 |
| set note/note_id is a wonderful command!
Cheers,
Plank..... (Mr. Plank to you Stu!)
|
33.2041 | Oi Neil You Hippy! | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 16:56 | 6 |
| Stretch man,
Cool it fella. You look like your karma is bad man. Get some lentil
soup inside ya.
Stuart
|
33.2042 | Giggsy... the new Bambi??? | YUPPY::PANES | Flying in the face of fashion | Thu Oct 05 1995 18:36 | 17 |
| <<< Note 33.2036 by CHEFS::EDWARDSD >>>
> >Is Panesy Vivian?
> Are you implying that Panesy is an aggressive, loud-mouthed thug, with a
> ridiculous hairstyle and terrible dress-sense ?
I have to admit to the "ridiculous" hair style, but there again you're
not exactly a Jon Bon Jovi doppleganger.
Stuart
BTW I have it on good authority that Moancheaters United fans aren't
too bothered about their early exit from the C-C Cup. Apparently
the club do not have a "tradition" in this tournament - I guess
this explains their lack of European ambition.
|
33.2043 | Vivian was the thick one, wasn't he ? | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 05 1995 18:54 | 19 |
| > BTW I have it on good authority that Moancheaters United fans aren't
> too bothered about their early exit from the C-C Cup. Apparently
> the club do not have a "tradition" in this tournament.
errrr, I think you'll find that what was *actually* said, was that
*this* United fan is not too bothered. I have never been excited by the
League/Littlewoods/Milk/Rumbelows/Coca-Cola cup, and consequently am
never too bothered when we're knocked out. Admittedly, losing in the
Final to the Red SH**e, Wednesday and Villa has caused me to feel a tad
peed off, but I don't feel the competition has that magic that you
associate with the F.A Cup.
> I guess this explains their lack of European ambition.
Hmm, I suppose being one of the pioneers of English clubs in Europe,
being the 1st English winners of the European Cup, reaching the
European Cup semis on 4(?) occasions, and winning the ECWC don't count
for much then eh ?!!?!?!
|
33.2044 | Its definitely SPG | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:00 | 6 |
| Dave,
Name the four semis then.
Stuart
|
33.2045 | or even runour | YUPPY::PANES | Flying in the face of fashion | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:05 | 7 |
| Dave,
Is there any truth in the runour that the shareholders of Manchester United
PLC have demanded that the team be entered into next year's Inter-Toto
Cup, thus ensuring the TTFKATTFTITW have a European birth?
Stuart
|
33.2046 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:10 | 6 |
| Stuart,
No.
hth,
Dave
|
33.2047 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:13 | 5 |
| Davo,
to which Stuart are you referring?
Stuart
|
33.2048 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:16 | 4 |
| Sorry for the confusion.
In future, I'll use Viv to refer to Stuart "I want Paul Ince's
Lovechild" Panes, and Blob to refer to your goodself.
|
33.2049 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:17 | 2 |
| The "No" was in reference to Viv's suggestion that Utd were to enter
the Inter-Toto jobby. I'm still working on the semis.
|
33.2050 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:22 | 3 |
| Erm, well if its nicknames, you can be Bobby Chariot. You know why.
Stuart
|
33.2051 | WOFTAM | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Here's 10p. Phone a man who cares! | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:24 | 6 |
|
Winning a single European cup and a single Cup-winners cup hardly makes a team
European legends! I think Cunno should be wheeled on to impart some of his
wisdom.
Statto.
|
33.2052 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:28 | 19 |
| re: semis
European Cup
56-57 Lost to Real Madrid (eventual winners) 3-5 on aggregate.
57-58 (after Munich Air Disaster) Lost to AC Milan 2-5 on aggregate.
65-66 Lost to Partisan Belgrade 1-2 on aggregate
67-68 Winners
68-69 Lost to AC Milan (eventual winners) 1-2 on aggregate.
Also,
Fairs/UEFA Cup
64-65 Lost to Ferencvaros (eventual winners) after replay
ECWC
90-91 Winners
|
33.2053 | How ya diddling | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:29 | 8 |
| Statto,
I believe that Bobby was referring to the fact that the self-styled
Gods of Football have a better record than Palace in Europe. I think he
was implying that Palace are bunch of no-brains. Give or take the odd
word, of course.
Stuart
|
33.2054 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:29 | 3 |
| >hardly makes a team European legends!
Who used the term "Legends" ? I think the term used was "Tradition".
|
33.2055 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:33 | 7 |
| Bobby,
Why did you feel the need to draw attention to the 'Munich Air
Disaster'? Now you know you will only get upset when Mr Panes enters
the musical score of The Dambusters.
Stuart
|
33.2056 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:40 | 13 |
| Blob,
Many people believe that the Utd team pre-Munich was capable of
dominating Europe club football in the way Real Madrid were doing. As
you can see from the semi-final dates, there is quite a gap between the
success enjoyed by the "Babes" and the success enjoyed by the 60s team
of Charlton, Best, Law etc. I referred to the Munich disaster as a way
of perhaps explaining why there was this gap.
The gap between the 68-69 season and now is far easier to explain - we're
crap !
|
33.2057 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 05 1995 19:48 | 10 |
| Bobby,
>Many people believe that the Utd team pre-Munich was capable of
>dominating Europe club football in the way Real Madrid were doing
And on what basis is this "opinion" given. Know a lot of people who say
this, do ya? Yes, I'm sure you do and I bet that they are connected
with TTFKATGFTITU in some way, shape or form.
Stuart
|
33.2058 | Pan-galactic domination, was surely beckoning | YUPPY::PANES | Flying in the face of fashion | Thu Oct 05 1995 20:14 | 16 |
| <<< Note 33.2056 by CHEFS::EDWARDSD >>>
> The gap between the 68-69 season and now is far easier to explain - we're
> crap !
Are you saying that United were only crap during the winter of '68, and
would have been brilliant but for the fixtures which were cancelled due
to the weather?
Stuart
|
33.2059 | How's Matthew No-brain enjoying his Saturday afternoons?! | VARESE::TRNUX1::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Thu Oct 05 1995 20:33 | 9 |
| >I believe that Bobby was referring to the fact that the self-styled
>Gods of Football have a better record than Palace in Europe. I think he
>was implying that Palace are bunch of no-brains. Give or take the odd
>word, of course.
Talking of clubs with a better record than Palace in Europe, what odds
on Merthyr Tydfil (sp?) to win the Welsh Cup again this year?
Dom
|
33.2060 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Oct 06 1995 13:22 | 10 |
| re .2056
Having discussed this issue with various people and Dave, you are
right. Man U would have dominated the european football scene.
Stuart
Oh yes, the moon is mauve, John Major is a very interesting person
indeed and Arsenal play wonderful exciting football.
|
33.2061 | And yes, Man U would have dominated the European scene... | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Fri Oct 06 1995 13:39 | 13 |
| >Oh yes, the moon is mauve, John Major is a very interesting person
>indeed and Arsenal play wonderful exciting football.
Well, the moon can appear mauve if viewed through a telescope at the
North Pole (a side-effect of the Aurora Borealis). And John Major is
avery interesting person insofar as total failures are very interesting
from an analyst's point of view.
But I'm afraid there's no way that Arsenal play wonderful exciting
football.
Dom (lacking a nickname...now that's courting disaster isn't it? ;-))
|
33.2062 | Corrie's on tonight | YUPPY::PANES | Flying in the face of fashion | Fri Oct 06 1995 15:25 | 30 |
| <<< Note 33.2036 by CHEFS::EDWARDSD >>>
> >Is Panesy Vivian?
> Are you implying that Panesy is an aggressive, loud-mouthed thug, with a
....mmmmm.... on further reflection , I remember a night in London
when I was talking to a ManU fan, who got very "excited", when I mentioned
that I considered his club/team were less than perfect.
> ridiculous hairstyle and terrible dress-sense ?
I've already commented on the hair-style, but I can only surmise
that the "dress-sense" jibe is an attempt at irony from a man with
a Millets Gold Card, who believes that the height of sophistication
is surf'n'turf , followed by a knickerbocker glory, all washed down
with a bottle of Black Tower. As a wise man once said....
"You can take the man out of the North, but you can't take the North
out of the man".
salut,
Stuart
|
33.2063 | | ZUR01::ASH | Grahame Ash @RLE | Fri Oct 06 1995 16:31 | 7 |
| > with a bottle of Black Tower. As a wise man once said..
> "You can take the man out of the North, but you can't take the North
> out of the man".
Oy - Stuo, less of the generalisations or I'll set me whippet on ye.
grahame
|
33.2064 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Oct 06 1995 16:39 | 7 |
| Re: last few
Oi, f*ck off and discuss your preferences someplace else ;-).
We've better things to discuss here.
James.
|
33.2065 | Like what? | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Oct 06 1995 16:44 | 1 |
|
|
33.2066 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 06 1995 16:46 | 6 |
| Like rumours of Wilko & going to the FA to become their technical
director....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2067 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Oct 06 1995 16:53 | 5 |
| Interesting that. The favourite for the job is Roy Hodgson because he
isn't involved in the English game at present. Apparently, the FA want
an outside to come in and overhaul the game.
Stuart
|
33.2068 | Forrester | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Fri Oct 06 1995 18:31 | 14 |
|
I see that Jamie Forrester has been given a free transfer by Leeds.
This is a shame as he was one of the young hopefuls we bought from
Auxerre. Unfortunately, he was never given the same chances as Deane in
the first team.
Shafiq
|
33.2069 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 06 1995 18:41 | 6 |
| Yeah.. I would have like to have seen him given more of a chance in the
first team... I sure he'll do well where ever he goes...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2070 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Oct 06 1995 18:58 | 7 |
| Re: a few back
Like football for instance and maybe even football concerning Leeds United.
Of course it's not compulsory...
James.
|
33.2071 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Oct 06 1995 19:26 | 7 |
| Or likely, James. Football and Leeds(X3) indeed !!
Even Rick is not adverse to the odd deviation(oohh-eerr) !!!
Stretch.
Anyway, back to Captain Pugwash !!!!
|
33.2072 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 06 1995 19:32 | 13 |
| >Football and Leeds(X3) indeed !!
Huh.. and the Arsenal & ManU fans have room to speak...
>Even Rick is not adverse to the odd deviation(oohh-eerr) !!!
Who me... no mate.. I'm on the straight and narrow...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2073 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Oct 06 1995 19:43 | 8 |
| Rick,
> I'm straight
Glad to hear it given all the problems members in 32.* are having with who
they'd like to take on holidays :-).
James (using a little poetic license on Rick's reply).
|
33.2074 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 06 1995 20:15 | 8 |
| Unbelievable... they'd rather go on holiday with Eric than go with
Claudia.... only ManU fans would say that!
Makes you wonder...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2075 | Remember Jon Blythe? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Oct 06 1995 20:26 | 177 |
| Good mail about the problems hosting a major championship! FWIW: I think
Dublin have 20K beds; Leeds have only 6K. Both cities are roughly the
same size!
James.
++
From: XSTACY::VBORMC::"JONBLYTHE@delphi.com" "NAME 'Ee bah gum th's trouble at
t'mill'" 1-OCT-1995 22:03:25.98
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: LU:UEFA 96 in Leeds
Not stricltly Leeds United, but I think it will be of interest to all the
Leeds United Noters out there (especially the more local ones).
I am getting involved with the FSA's plans to set up a Fan's Embassy in
Leeds, on the same lines as the ones in Italia 90 and Sweden 92 - to help
visiting fans in a strange country and ensure there are things for them to
do, as we all know that football fans go crazy and smash things up for no
apparent reason ...
The Football Embassies looked after things like tickets, travel, legal,
relations with local Media / Police / Local Authorities. The Local Authority
link is seen as very important, so John Ansbro (Director of Leeds
Development Agency), part of Leeds City Council was present at a meeting
held on Thursday 21st September last.
The following items were discussed :-
Euro 96 will have a lot of visiting fans - especially if Germany / Holland
qualify and are seeded. There is also a strong possibility that Scotland
will be based in Newcastle and Leeds.
LCC want to promote tourism.
Euro 96 is the 3rd largest tournament in the world, after the Olympics and
the World Cup.
Need to project Leeds in the best possible light.
Seeded team will be in Leeds, and will play games on :-
Sun 9 June 2pm
Sat 15 June time ?
Tue 18 June evening - however these may change subject to TV needs.
It is estimated there will be 15K seats available to the host (Joe Public)
and 25K to the teams involved. Segregation will be very difficult, but
fortunately England aren't playing in Leeds.
If the seeded team get through to the quarter and semis, these will be
played at Old Trafford and Anfield - so many of the fans will opt to stay in
Leeds as the distances aren't to bad, and the communications by public
transport are good (and there is the M62 as well).
It is estimated there will be 10K people staying in Leeds and environs, and
they will have a lot of time on their hands between matches.
So - these fans will need things to do and decent facilities to do it in.
LCC has found out the following :-
Money -not a lot will come the way of the FA and Local Authorities, and
central government isn't interested (nb in USA 94, there was a lot of
central government involvement). This leaves the FA to organise everything.
In Leeds especially, Alan Roberts (LUFC, FA Euro overseer for Leeds and
Newcastle), John Ansbro and West Yorkshire Police have identified 5 key
areas :-
1. Transportation
Good signing. Traffic Control - this will be different from a LUFC home
match, as most of the fans won't know where to go. TV will dictate things
and could get in the way of rush hour - remember life will still be going on
for the non-footballing public of Leeds! Air charters will put a strain on
the 'airport' - and the woefully inadequate public transport links to Leeds
will have to be significantly improved. Campsite transport will have to be
provided, this may not be commerically viable for the new Leeds City Link
(ex Yorkshire Rider) - so does this mean several thousand visiting fans will
be left in the lurch in the middle of Leeds at night ? Roadworks will have
to be planned not to be crippling the road network during the tournament.
North Sea Ferries have banned football fans - this will be a problem for
Northern European based fans (and LUFC ones travelling to Holland for the
PSV game)
2. Events
Leeds has a good range of events in the summer. Some of these could be
rescheduled to take place during Euro 96 such as :-
Heineken Music Festival
Jazz on the Waterfront
Other attractions :-
Royal Armouries
York
Tetleys Brewery Wharf
Photogrphic Museum (Bradford)
Yorkshire in general (Gateway Yorkshire at Leeds City Station will be very
busy)
Other things :-
Half time entertainment
Opening ceremonies
Other ideas :
Football Exhibition as part of the city's summer programme 'Football in the
City' - Euro is for ALL the people in the city. Theatres could also have
football related programmes.
5 a side football competions for fan's teams - possibly using the new South
Leeds stadium, also could involve local leagues to have 'internationals'
between the locals and guests.
3. Accommodation
(no, not 'Superior Student Accommodation :-) )
The Universities will still be in session, so the Halls of Residence will
not be available.
Leeds has 5-6 K bedspaces, but these will be used by normal commerce.
The regional tourist board will have to find bedspaces in West and parts of
North Yorkshire.
Campsites will need to be provided - with amenities (not a tap in a field 4
miles from habitation)
There will be a lot of backpackers - so hostel style accommodation will be
needed.
4. Safety / Security
Normal matchday security will have to be modified.
There will be 'cultural differences' - ie the waving of flags and the use of
flares, England now has stewarded and not policed stadia.
Seacroft / Beeston / Bramley man may find the town being full of 'f*ing
foreigners' too good an opportunity to start trouble.
Teams and journo's need to be looked after.
Who is accredited ?
Interpreters in hospitals / police stations / fan's embassies.
5. Image / Media
1000 or so journos will be in Leeds
TV facilities (YTV and the BBC have a presence already)
How will the city present itself ?
The biggest problem will be that the teams who will be in Leeds aren't known
yet, the draw will be on 17 Dec in Birmingham.
Differing local authorities have differing ideas - The Rust Ciry wants to
have curfews on alcohol and to get the fans out of the city - how
enlightened, and the locals won't like that at all.
The fan profile is very country dependent, and will also be affected by the
means of ticket distribution - the 'all in' deals will attract a more
affluent supporter than the el cheapo 36 hours on a bus type trip.
There is a further meeting on MONDAY 9 OCTOBER 1995 at the Adelphi, ko 8pm.
All are welcome - the more ideas / people willing to help the better. If any
of you have any comments or suggestions, mail them to me rather than use the
list, and I will take them along to the meetings.
A WWW page would be a good idea, I know Leeds Council are putting one
together for Leeds as a City, perhaps they could extend it to cater for Euro
96 (or even set up a list like this one - how is this done / what resources
are needed etc etc ?)
jb.
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33.2076 | An indication of the full team vewrsion ??????? | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Oct 09 1995 14:14 | 9 |
| TWO NIL UNITED, LADS !!!!! (O.K So it was only the reserves....)
Cheers,
Stretch.
P.S James, Cheers for the poetry. Keep 'em coming.
|
33.2077 | 2-0...2-0...2-0...2-0... | IOSG::STANDAGE | My hovercraft is full of eels | Mon Oct 09 1995 14:38 | 7 |
|
Well, you'd hardly expect Leeds to score - Yeboah isn't in the
reserves...
-Kevin.
|
33.2078 | The main match is on the 24th December!!! :-> | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Oct 09 1995 14:49 | 5 |
| But at least Mr. Blunt claimed a victim.. :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2079 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Oct 09 1995 14:50 | 6 |
| The two goals the United reserves got were in the last five minutes of the
game. Considering what players MUFC had in the reserves team it's not
really surprising they won :-(. I'd not previously heard of Blunt playing
for Leeds :-).
James.
|
33.2080 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Oct 09 1995 14:52 | 5 |
| Who was in the Leeds & Manc teams??
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2081 | objective opinion as usual..... | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Oct 09 1995 15:18 | 12 |
| Who cares,Rick, WE WON !!!!
Gloating_Stretch.
P.S C'mon Dave, make the most of it.
I am only glad the full team version is during the Christmas break,
during which time I shall be in the 'Dam and braincells will be on
other matters.
|
33.2082 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Oct 09 1995 15:46 | 13 |
| >Gloating_Stretch.
Carm down Stretch.. you'll blow a blood vessel...
You may have won the battle... (playing with a nearly first full
team squad ) but you won't win the war.... we will have our revenge!
May I take you back to the FA Youth Cup... I think our youngsters
won that & beat some poor North West team!!!!!
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2083 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Mon Oct 09 1995 16:57 | 17 |
| >You may have won the battle... (playing with a nearly first full
>team squad )
Hmmm, considering that Keane,Irwin,Butt and Beckham are injured,
Pallister, Neville, Giggs and Schmeichel (?) are on international duty,
it seems a tad unlikely that Utd fielded "nearly first full team
squad". However, I am prepared to be proven wrong, and therefore fully
expect you to enter here Utd's line-up in order to do just that.
>May I take you back to the FA Youth Cup... I think our youngsters
I presume you are referring to 1994 ? Is it not bad enough that Utd
fans are gloating over the antics of the reserve team, without the
Sheep retaliating with 18 month old tales of victory by their brats.
Hmm, come back Malc and Matt - all is forgiven.
Dave
|
33.2084 | The way things are, any win will do ...... | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Oct 09 1995 17:09 | 3 |
| Cheers, Dave !!!
Stretch.
|
33.2085 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Mon Oct 09 1995 17:14 | 1 |
| Get a life !!!
|
33.2086 | I have a happy life (?) | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Oct 09 1995 19:42 | 3 |
| I have Dave. I note in the Reading topic as well !!!!
Stretch.
|
33.2087 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Oct 10 1995 15:55 | 7 |
| Leeds vs Arsenal
Yeboah 5 - Dutch failure 0
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2088 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Tue Oct 10 1995 15:59 | 8 |
| <YAWN>
Rick (with a silent P),
Your willingness to discuss the finer points of football never ceases to
amaze.
Stuart
|
33.2089 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Oct 10 1995 16:33 | 6 |
| Re -1 and -2
I see that Rick and Stuart are engaging in some friendly? banter again -
exciting times in 33.*.
James.
|
33.2090 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Oct 10 1995 16:57 | 9 |
| As per usual... :->
James... what do you think the chances of getting Gordon Strachan back
from Coventry City... I'm not quite sure if he'd make a good
replacement for Wilko...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2091 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Tue Oct 10 1995 17:19 | 17 |
| Rick,
ref - Mr Strachan. From what it said on teletext last night it seems
Mr S is on a very long contract. Coventry also feel that the capture of
Gordon was a major coup, and he is the kind of upstanding chap who
would not break said contract. I suppose it all depends on Wilko going
for the technical directors job which this all hangs on. Is he not
happy enough at Elland Road ??? It seems that this is not the best time
to leave, given the performances of late (no sarcasm !!! Am I ill ???)
by the Leeds (x3) team.
The only other thing that I found odd when Gordon first went to
Coventry was the fact that he was being being groomed for the managers
job but ended up putting his boots back on again for Coventry.
Stretch.
|
33.2092 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Oct 10 1995 17:36 | 7 |
| I reserve judgement on Strach until I see how Coventry
get on this season. Things haven't started too well for
them AFAIK. Wilko will need some encouragement to step
down from Leeds prematurely so I think Stractan has at
least 2 years to audition for the job.
James.
|
33.2093 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Tue Oct 10 1995 17:40 | 10 |
| Surely Coventry's season will be influenced more by BFR than Strachan -
after all, he is still the manager. I don't think you'll learn
anything about Strachan's managerial potential whilst BFR is at the
helm.
If the Madman accepts the job at the F.A, and Strachan isn't available,
who would you see as a possible replacement ?
Rick (with a silent P),
Try and answer this one without using the word "Yeboah" in the reply.
|
33.2094 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Oct 10 1995 18:07 | 10 |
| I'd like to see George G. take the roll... he did well at Arsenal... I
think he has a good track record ( apart from the odd black mark etc. )
Other than that.. I don't know... from the current crop of Premiership
managers I couldn't think of anyone who could really take over from
Wilko... there isn't anyone who is good enough...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2095 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Tue Oct 10 1995 18:14 | 9 |
| Rick (With a Silent P),
There is a flaw in your comments about GG. He is banned until July
1996. The new Technical Director is to take up his position on 1
January 1996. Will the Leeds Board (& Supporters) be capable of waiting
that long, especially as they could still be involved in 3 cup
competitions.
Stuart
|
33.2096 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Oct 10 1995 18:18 | 8 |
| That was the only problem... :->
Who is the assistant at the mo.. is he any good.. could he fill in
until GG was ready to take over at Elland Road.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2097 | What about............ | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Tue Oct 10 1995 18:19 | 6 |
| Rick What about your good mate Alex F. Good track record, diplomatic
,never a bad word too say about other teams etc etc
Helpful_Stretch.
|
33.2098 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Oct 10 1995 18:23 | 5 |
| What... taggart.. you must be <range of colourful expressions>!!!
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2099 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Oct 12 1995 18:40 | 11 |
| >It was a shame to see Gary McAllister get injured,
Not 'alf... it looks like Leeds will have a hard time against PSV
without him.... I think its time to go an by John Collins...
So Stretch... you have a Leeds player in your team... by the end of
the year we will have converted you... you'll love Leeds...:->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2100 | The ball's in your court, Stretch !! | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Thu Oct 12 1995 18:44 | 6 |
| Stretch,
Are you gonna tell him, or shall I !!
Ian.
|
33.2101 | Wot, no Yeboah ! | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 12 1995 18:46 | 8 |
| This may seem a totally irrelevant question for this note, but does
anyone know if/when the next African Nations cup takes place ? The
reason I ask is that I've not heard too much about it in the football
press, and yet it normally takes place in the same year as the European
Nations Cup. Obviously, this tournament now impacts English clubs more
than ever with the increasing number of African players in the Premier
League eg Yeboah, and I seem to recall that the competition has
previously taken place during our winter.
|
33.2102 | But he'll score 'Goal of the Season' against MancU! | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Oct 12 1995 18:48 | 6 |
| It takes places in January I think... cos Mr. Y won't be available for
the Liverpool match....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2103 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Oct 12 1995 18:59 | 6 |
| Thanks Rick.
I suppose it's possible that Yeboah will miss a game or 2 in December
as well eh ? No doubt he'll be required to train with the rest of the
squad before the tournament starts. Wouldn't it be a shame if he has
to miss the Utd game !!!!!
|
33.2104 | It gets better !!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Oct 12 1995 19:10 | 15 |
| Rick ,
I have had over a decade of propaganda from a couple of deluded
chums as to the wonders of Leeds (x3). I do not feel an overwhelming
urge to cross the Pennines at present and as long as the grey matter is
relatively intact things will stay as they are. I already pledge my
allegience to a bunch of lower class players and feel the addition of a
second team of that calibre is more than my heart could take !!! (no
offence Reading fans, I will be there on Saturday for the Huddersfeild
match)
Stretch.
P.S I will tell you the whole sordid story about my Fantasy fitba team
next Friday assuming a) That Rutherford can keep his trap shut
(doubtful) b) You find your way over the post house and meet us !!!
|
33.2105 | Rick, who is Leeds (x3) local derby? | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 12 1995 19:22 | 6 |
| Rick,
Looks like January and February are going to cracking months for Leeds
(x3) then - Losing a manager and your team.
Stuart
|
33.2106 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Oct 12 1995 19:37 | 18 |
| > who is Leeds (x3) local derby?
Well at the moment it is Sheffield Wednesday ( Who lost 2-0 )
thanks to the mighty Mr. Y.
But if Huddersfield can get promoted then that will be the local
derby... :->
> Looks like January and February are going to cracking months for
> Leeds (x3) then - Losing a manager and your team.
Yep.. its going to be something to look forward too... I just can't
wait... I'm sure you'll all be very supportive of the Leeds fans
through the trying time ahead for the Leeds team...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2107 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Oct 12 1995 19:48 | 9 |
| Carling Player of the Month for September is .....
Mr. Tony Yeboah.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2108 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Oct 12 1995 19:52 | 10 |
| Rick,
Aah that explains the advert I saw.
In this months 442, there is an advert for videos entitled "Classic
Local Derbies", you know Arsenal v Spurs, Man U v Man C, probably
consisting of maulings handed out to your local rivals. All Leeds
had was "Leeds v The Roses". Bet Percy Thrower is p1$$ed off.
Stuart
|
33.2109 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Oct 13 1995 13:53 | 10 |
| Big game tomorrow: home to Arsenal!
Although Macca will be missing I've got a good feeling about the
game. Yeboah will probably get on the score sheet as will Deane
or Masinga. Arsenal will be hard pressed to get anything out of
the game. I hope BBC 5 will have live commentary on the game :-).
Why do you think Stu S.?
James.
|
33.2110 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Oct 13 1995 14:00 | 16 |
| James,
I naturally share your optimism about the result. Don't quite follow
your logic though about why Arsenal will be hard-pressed to get
anything from the result because Deane is playing. He isn't a problem.
Masinga only gets on the scoresheet when Linighan plays, so we're
alright on that score. As for McAllister being missing, he is the main
midfield fella at Leeds and will be sorely missed. I would expect Keown
to be in the side to man-mark Yeboah and that is what he is good at.
I somehow don't think that you will get to listen to the game as the
Manc derby will probably take precedence.
Stuart
Stuart
|
33.2111 | | YUPPY::OHAGANB | | Fri Oct 13 1995 14:17 | 5 |
| Bergkamp is out for tomorrow's game but this information came via Messrs
Cadd and Stacey, both Leeds fans, (whom some of you in here might know)
so it's probably not true. ;^)
Barry.
|
33.2112 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Oct 13 1995 14:37 | 3 |
| > Messrs Cadd and Stacey
You do mean messers Cadd and Stacey ;-)!
|
33.2113 | Messy | WELSWS::CADD | L.U.F.C. League champions 1991/92 | Fri Oct 13 1995 14:50 | 8 |
|
I'll have you know James that i kept all my food on my plate when we
went to that Leeds dinner :-)
(ps) got me ticket for PSV away...
Paul
|
33.2114 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 13 1995 14:55 | 6 |
|
Hey its that man Paul Cadd... I was wondering if you were still at DEC..
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2115 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 13 1995 16:27 | 8 |
| Well it looks like most of the International predictions have come down
on the side of Leeds United instead of the Arse....
Any comment Stu??
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2116 | Er, you haven't received the mail then? | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Oct 13 1995 16:42 | 5 |
| Rick,
Put your money (or beer, in this case) where your mouth is.
Stuart
|
33.2117 | Beer only.. :-> | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 13 1995 17:07 | 13 |
| Stuart... ( and only Stuart.. I know what you lot are like..;->)
Go on then... I'll bet you 1 (One) pint on Leeds winning...
if it a draw then we'll call it quits...
And if Arsenal loose ( which these will ) then mines a pint of 1664.
What do you say?
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2118 | Still Not Reading Mails, eh? | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Oct 13 1995 17:10 | 5 |
| re -1
Yer on.
Stuart
|
33.2119 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Oct 13 1995 17:14 | 9 |
| Re -a few back
Paul,
The only way to flush out some RON's (Read Only Noters) is to insult them!
Has Alan Stacey figured out where the "create reply" button is yet?
James.
|
33.2120 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 13 1995 17:14 | 5 |
| This will be the easiest pint of beer I've ever won! :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2121 | | YUPPY::OHAGANB | | Fri Oct 13 1995 18:17 | 10 |
|
>Has Alan Stacey figured out where the "create reply" button is yet?
> James.
If he has, James, then there's something wrong with our network security
as Alan joined Kleinwort Benson a few months back. :^)
Barry.
|
33.2122 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Oct 13 1995 19:31 | 5 |
| Re -1
No wonder it was so quiet in here ;-).
James.
|
33.2123 | A virtual pint? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Oct 13 1995 19:32 | 6 |
| Re -a few back
Any chance that I could have a virtual pint with you too Stu on tomorrow's
match (on the off chance I ever meet you)?
James.
|
33.2124 | Damn.. blast.. I'm not looking forward to Friday... | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Sun Oct 15 1995 15:15 | 7 |
| Hmmm..
Well its only a game....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2125 | Rick, Mines a pint of.... | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Mon Oct 16 1995 10:27 | 13 |
| James,
I shall enjoy the 'virtual pint' almost as much as the one Rick (with a
silent P) owes me.
There is a saying about being as gracious in victory as you are in
defeat....
but I sincerely doubt that Messrs Morrell and Lundon would have given
me 5 seconds peace if Leeds (x3) had won so why should I give them any?
Mr Smug.
|
33.2126 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Oct 16 1995 11:23 | 10 |
| Hmmm...
I hate southern editions of the Sunday & Monday papers... if Leeds win
then we get a small mention... but if the Arse/Totteringham etc win
then there is a special pull-out match report with LOADS of pictures
which you can treasure forever......
Cheers,
Mr. Bitter & Twisted of Leeds....
|
33.2127 | But Then you found this out on Saturday | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Mon Oct 16 1995 11:29 | 5 |
| Rick (with a silent P)
The reason for this is to let you know how good us Southerners are.
Mr Smug
|
33.2128 | Newspapers | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Mon Oct 16 1995 11:57 | 10 |
| RE .2126
I should probably be keeping quiet this morning, but I wholeheartedly
agree with the criticism of Southern edition papers. I can often only
get any Villa match reports if they are playing a southern team or are
in a cup final or something. The only exception was when we beat Man U
at the start of the season. This seemed to get front page billing in
the southern rags,
Derek
|
33.2129 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Mon Oct 16 1995 11:59 | 5 |
| re -1
>in a cup final
So thats not to often then.
|
33.2130 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Oct 16 1995 12:13 | 7 |
| >how good us Southerners are.
Hmmm... us Northerners will have our revenge....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2131 | What the bloody hell was all that about ??????? | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Oct 16 1995 12:15 | 8 |
| So Stuart, had Mr Merson heard about the alcohol and gambling at stake
here. Seems to have been the inspiration he needed. Not that it upsets
me 'cos he's in my fantasy team !!!!
Stretch.
P.S But there again so is that goal machine Yeboah !!!
|
33.2132 | An apology | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Mon Oct 16 1995 14:17 | 10 |
| I have an apology to make. In previous notes, I have indicated that
Tony Yeboah is the reason Leeds are doing wel and I also indicated that
my view was that they were a one man team.
I was wrong.
Its Gary McAllister who's the one man team.
Stuart
|
33.2133 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Oct 16 1995 20:01 | 17 |
| Well it looks like Brian Deane, Gary Kelly & Gary (Super Model) Speed
are out of tomorrow nights match...
I think we're going to loose this game... I have that gut feeling... I
home I'm wrong...
If any one is interested ( cos I know Stu, Stretch & Dave will be
supporting Leeds all the way...
..out of the UEFA cup ), the match is supposed to be shown on the Dutch
Sat staion Veronica... starting at 8pm....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2134 | Is it scambled ? | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Tue Oct 17 1995 15:10 | 10 |
| RE: Veronica
Channel 51 on satellite. I wonder if they are going to scamble the transmission.
Does anyone in Holland know......
The only time I've seen anything on this channel is some DJ sitting in a studio
playing records. But then this is probably better than watching Leeds getting
beat again :-(
Brian
|
33.2135 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Oct 17 1995 15:46 | 8 |
| They usually have some films on which aren't scrambled ...
Anyway I'm rushing off home tonight to see if its unscrambled...
otherwise I'll have to depend radio 5...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2136 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Oct 18 1995 11:56 | 19 |
| Excellent match... one of the most entertaining football games I've
seen in ages.... I watched it on Dutch TV, with radio 5 on in the
background... excellent start... though the Dutch player should have
been sent off for the tackle on Macca... he went straight for his right
ankle after he'd just recovered from injury.
Leeds went behind to a couple of chance goals... but the free kick by
PSV & Maccas goal were excellent... Our defence was rubbish... I think
we should place an adcert in the local rag :
"Lost : Leeds United back four... if found please contact
Mr. H Wilkinson, Elland Road. "
Well it looks like we may be out of the cup... we have to go and win 3-0 in
Holland... but all is not lost... its still possible.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2137 | Score! | IOSG::LAYNE | | Wed Oct 18 1995 12:05 | 3 |
| so waht was the final score - I heard 3-1 at half time.
William
|
33.2138 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Oct 18 1995 12:08 | 9 |
| Leeds 3 - PSV 5
Everything to play for in the second leg....
Yeboah always does better away from home...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2139 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Lovely Day for a Guinness | Wed Oct 18 1995 12:58 | 7 |
| What about the free kick by Jonk, (I think..). I thought that at a free
kick situation the player taking the free had to strike the ball
cleanly, (i.e. not `lift' the ball like last night)....
....apart from that, it was an absolute cracker of a match....
Ray....
|
33.2140 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Oct 18 1995 13:27 | 6 |
| Maybe we should complain & get the leg replayed... just like 3 years
ago...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2141 | Well, at the end of the day....it gets dark. | YUPPY::OHAGANB | | Wed Oct 18 1995 15:54 | 7 |
|
> Everything to play for in the second leg...
Rick, you were'nt wearing a sheepskin jacket and talking into a
microphone when you typed that were you. :^)
Barry (Davis).
|
33.2142 | Great game - shame about the result | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Wed Oct 18 1995 16:02 | 15 |
| Like Rick, I also watched the game on dutch tv with the radio 5 commentary.
Great game, shame about the result, but we were just knackered at the end of
the game having fought back to 3-3, when PSV scored their forth and fifth.
I thought the flick free kick was illegal as well. I thought the rule was
changed after the famous Ernie Hunt effort for Coventry. Doesn't the ball have
roll the circumference, or something daft like that .?
Rick, do you know if the away leg is on Veronica as well ? We are probably out
of the UEFA cup now, but lets hope the defense gets sorted after this result. We
should have brought Mark Wright, when we were rumoured to been interested in him.
On a happier note - Wilkinson has turned down the job at the F.A.
Brian
|
33.2143 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Oct 18 1995 16:14 | 6 |
|
Well it was certainly a game of two halves...
The lads did well....
|
33.2144 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Oct 18 1995 16:18 | 14 |
| >Rick, do you know if the away leg is on Veronica as well ?
I would have thought so... I hope so anyway...
It will be an excellent game..... The second leg will be like the
Leeds - Stuttgart game.. where we ended up 4 goals a drift... & would
have won if the Germans hadn't cheated.... ( We won the replay 2-1 :-)
I wonder if its worth complaining about the free kick.... maybe PSV
will get disqualified... :->>>
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2145 | Hateley......Oh I say !!!!! | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Wed Oct 18 1995 16:24 | 6 |
| Rick,
You would only go and lose in the next round anyway !!!
Ian.
|
33.2146 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Oct 18 1995 16:29 | 6 |
| Probably so.... "Blind" John would probably punch the ball into his own
net again.. after being blinded by the lights...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2147 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Oct 18 1995 16:37 | 8 |
| Rick,
Lets face it, Leeds(x3) have been sussed. Keep McAllister quiet, stop
Yeboah from scoring and you've got it made. The only defender of any
note at Leeds (x3) is Gary Kelly. The rest of the team are not worth
picking.
Stuart
|
33.2148 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Oct 18 1995 16:41 | 11 |
| Sorry I disagree....
Dorigo played his little socks of last night.. so did Brian Deane &
Gary Speed....
We've got a good team.... we just need to do something with the
defence...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2149 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Oct 18 1995 16:56 | 14 |
| Rick,
> We've got a good team
No, you've got a mediocre team relying on the efforts of 2, maybe 3,
players. That has been proven in the last 2 games.
The problem Leeds(x3) face is one of predictability. Arsenal have faced
this for the last 3 seasons and only a change of manager (and of
managerial philosophy) can resolve this. Wilkinson was recently quoted
as saying that he had a 7 year plan for Leeds (x3). His time must be up
by now?
Stuart
|
33.2150 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Oct 18 1995 17:05 | 18 |
| >he had a 7 year plan for Leeds (x3).
Well we completed what he wanted to do in the 7 years... get
promoted & win the league....
> a mediocre team relying on the efforts of 2
I think the team is actually better than the team that won the
league... we've got a lot of good youngsters who are coming into the
team.. such as Whelan & Couzens.... its just going to take a little bit
of time for us to gel..
What we wanted last year was a goal scorer.. and we've got one..
although he hasn't scored a lot at Elland Road...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2151 | Oh dear (x3) | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Oct 18 1995 17:33 | 17 |
| Rick,
Two goals at Elland road for Tony I beleive.
I am about to say something that I can guarantee will be miscontrued by
at least one noter. The goals conceeded last night (by both sides) were
of very high quality,as they should be at this level. I think Rick, of
all people !! is being a little harsh on his defence, and Lukic here.
This is NOT an admission of support. 3-1 at half time had a huge smile
on my face. 5-3 at full time, and I could visualise todays notes
already. Shame I have not had the time to get embroiled. Mind you I
will continue more fully with this later when I have a moment or at the
Post House on Friday. Bet you can't wait for Friday Rick !!!
Happy_Stretch.
|
33.2152 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Oct 18 1995 17:56 | 17 |
| Rick,
> Well we completed what he wanted to do in the 7 years... get
> promoted & win the league....
Not quite. In a recent interview on TV, Wilkinson stated that he wished
to leave Leeds (x3) with a dynasty. Leeds (x3) *are* a great distance
short of this target. Since they won the League, Leeds (x3) have not
seriously challenged for any trophies. That hardly smacks of Howard
succeeding in his aims.
The current team is some way short of making a championsip challenge.
It will be difficult for teams to win at Elland Road but Leeds (x3) are
not a club destined for greatness for decades to come if they rely on
their current squad.
Stuart
|
33.2153 | Leeds (x3) PSV (x5) | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Wed Oct 18 1995 18:47 | 18 |
| Rick,
A couple of weeks ago, Mr Stratford suggested that Leeds were a one-man
team, and that man was Yeboah.
A few days ago, he revised his opinion and suggested that Leeds were a
one-man team, and that man was McAllister.
After your last 2 results, I think there is only one logical
conclusion...
Leeds are actually an eleven-man team - unfortunately they're all crap !
BTW - for information on creating a dynasty at a club, please refer to
a Mr A Ferguson, c/o Manchester United Football Club - he might point
you in the right direction.
|
33.2154 | Shouldn't that read..... | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Oct 18 1995 20:04 | 11 |
| > for information on how not to create a dynasty at a club,
and how to crash out of European football competitions to Russian tractor
factory B teams in the first round.....
>please refer to a Mr A Ferguson, c/o Manchester United Football Club -
>he will point you in the right direction.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2155 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Oct 18 1995 20:16 | 5 |
| Roll on Friday eh Rick ???
Stretch.
|
33.2156 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Oct 18 1995 20:23 | 9 |
| Rick,
So what you are telling us is that Leeds (x3) have never lost to a
"smaller" team in European Competition?
Perhaps you would be so good as to post the full results of Leeds (x3)
so that we can judge for ourselves.
Stuart
|
33.2157 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Wed Oct 18 1995 20:24 | 8 |
| err, you're missing the point Rick. The Madman has failed to
capatalise on the Sheep's success 3 years ago. Compare and contrast
the fortunes of Man Utd and Leeds since 91/92. Ferguson has improved
the whole structure of the club. The Utd team on Saturday contained 5
players that have represented England at U-21 level during the past 12
months - Leeds have, err, Brian Deane. Hmmm, some dynasty.
Looking forward to Friday .....
|
33.2158 | I like Leeds... you like (Hmmmm).. Poor you... | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Oct 19 1995 01:28 | 11 |
| > Looking forward to Friday .....
It's not a gang up on the Leeds supporter convention is it...
I might have to get lost on the way over to the Posthouse.. :->
Its a tricky place to find at times..
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2159 | ?? | IOSG::LAYNE | | Fri Oct 20 1995 12:16 | 5 |
| Rick,
This maybe a silly question, but what does the (x3) after Leeds stand for?
William
|
33.2160 | Leeds, Leeds, Leeds | YUPPY::PANES | An honest face and a stupid hairstyle | Fri Oct 20 1995 12:21 | 0 |
33.2161 | Are you coming over at 1 o'clock now Rick ?? | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Oct 20 1995 12:32 | 6 |
| 'Cos thats as much of a sentence as they can handle when it comes to
singing !!! Something about goldfish and memory spans spring to mind !!
Cheers,
Stretch.
|
33.2162 | Erm...Excuse me but.... | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Fri Oct 20 1995 12:42 | 17 |
| you mean like....
"Blue Army, Blue Army" @ your beloved Reading
or even
"Royals, Royals, Royals also @ your beloved Reading
Oh, and then there's
"R...E...A...D...I...N...G...Reading !!! from guess where !!
Now what was that you were saying about goldfish ??
Ian.
|
33.2163 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 20 1995 12:45 | 7 |
| >Are you coming over at 1 o'clock now Rick ??
Yep... I should be there...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2164 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Oct 20 1995 14:57 | 6 |
| Rick,
Not a very loyal supporter are you? Predicting that Man City will win.
Hardly smacks of a dynasty being built at The Sheep Farm.
Stuart
|
33.2165 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 20 1995 15:03 | 10 |
| Well our record at Man City isn't very good... esp. after being
defeated in European competitions.... ( i.e. 4-0 & 2-0 in 1992... etc.
)
I'm just trying to win points in the predictions competition... I hope
I'm proved wrong....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2166 | On the other hand it might be Sir Clive Sinclair.. | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Sun Oct 22 1995 19:09 | 16 |
|
Well as I predicted.. Man City had most of the play in the game... we
were lucky not to be defeated by the account in the Sunday Express...
but a least we came away with a point..
According to Ceefax we are going to sign Richard Jobson from Oldham on
Monday for $1,000,000 and we're also being linked with Sinclair from
QPR for ~$4.5 million....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2167 | Off | IOSG::LAYNE | | Mon Oct 23 1995 11:27 | 5 |
| Hey you Leeds supporter,
"KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF SINCLAIR"
William (sorry_for_shouting!!!)
|
33.2168 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Oct 23 1995 11:36 | 5 |
| Bill... you know he wants to leave & join a big club like Leeds....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2169 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Oct 26 1995 12:25 | 15 |
| Derby 0 - Leeds "Super Model" United 1
Gary "Super Model" Speed
A good match by all accounts... Derby had the best of the first half...
but their finishing let them down... and in the second half Leeds had
the upper hand with Speed converting a Nigel Worthless corner around
about the 79 minute mark.
Blackburn in the next round... we have a good chance on getting into
the 1/4 finals....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2170 | I'm back! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Oct 26 1995 21:20 | 32 |
| First note in ages...
The virtual pint is your Stu, if I ever get to meet you :-).
Our last four games have been quite poor IMHO:
Arsenal 0-3
PSV 3-5
Man City 0-0
Derby 1-0
In none of the games did Leeds play well (except maybe for the PSV
game but then we conceded 5 goals in that game). Yeboah hasn't scored
in any of them and our defence / midfield haven't been exactly winning
universal plaudits for their performances.
Leeds aren't good enough! Extra players are need both in defence and
midfield if we are to stay in the top five in the league and have any
chance in either domestic cup (already assuming that PSV will get past
us next week!). Yeboah might be the best striker in the game at the
moment, but for christ's sake he cannot score if he doesn't get the
ball!
I see we've gotten Blackburn in the fizzy pop cup. I think we can
beat them! Beating PSV by three clear goals is nigh impossible as I
don't think we will be able to 1) score at least three times and 2)
keep a clean sheet. The league looks to be already beyond us given
the start Newcastle has made this season and the slip-ups we've
already made e.g. losing to QPR at home and only drawing with Man
City/Southampton away
James.
|
33.2171 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 27 1995 12:47 | 10 |
| Come on James.. be more positive... we can beat PSV.. we've done it
before against Stuggart.... :->
As for Trevor Sinclair... 10 million quid.. you must be joking.. more
like 4.5 million plus David White... he's the ideal replacement for a
team which is going into the 1st Division...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2172 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Oct 27 1995 12:48 | 6 |
| Rick,
but why would Trevor Sinclair want to join a team that is "going into
the 1st Division"?
Stuart
|
33.2173 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Oct 27 1995 12:50 | 3 |
| Hohoho..
|
33.2174 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Oct 30 1995 12:19 | 13 |
| Coventry 1 - Leeds 3
(Ooooo Gary.. Gary...
Gary.. Gary.. Gary..) McAllister 3
Just the result we needed before our "against the odds" win over PSV...
with McAllister being in outstanding form... unlike the rest of the
Leeds side.... but I suppose it make a change only letting in 1 goal
rather than 3 or 5...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2175 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Oct 30 1995 19:15 | 10 |
| Re: -1
We were lucky though as Blind John kept us in the game
during the second half!
Losing to Coventry would have been the straw to break
this camel's back vis a vis current team selection /
form / manager!
James.
|
33.2176 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Oct 30 1995 19:26 | 12 |
| I must admit... drawing with teams like Man City, Southampton & being
defeated by Arsenal, QPR etc. have been really bad results.. and did
test my resolve...
Lets hope we can turn it around.... *:-/
I must admit I'd still like to see GG take over after he comes back
into management.... a manager with a proven track record etc...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2177 | You heard it here first - get your wad on it | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Oct 31 1995 14:03 | 5 |
| PVC 1 - 4 Leeds
We'll frame up those window makers tonight!
James.
|
33.2178 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Oct 31 1995 14:04 | 4 |
| re -1
Yeboah's been saving up all his goals for tonight's
rout!
|
33.2179 | ??? | ZUR01::ASH | Grahame Ash @RLE | Tue Oct 31 1995 14:06 | 1 |
| Window makers?!!
|
33.2180 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Oct 31 1995 14:16 | 11 |
| >Yeboah's been saving up all his goals for tonight's
>rout!
I hope so....
Tonight... Tonight is the night... when the world will tremble at
the skill & power of Tony Yeboah....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2181 | re-1 or laugh when Leeds (x3) get dicked | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Tue Oct 31 1995 14:20 | 1 |
|
|
33.2182 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Oct 31 1995 14:31 | 3 |
| PSV -> PVC -> PVC windows -> makers of such wares!
I don't say it wasn't stupid did I?
|
33.2183 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Oct 31 1995 14:34 | 5 |
| Even if we lose it will be a moral victory....
Cheers,
Rick
|
33.2184 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Tue Oct 31 1995 14:37 | 7 |
| James,
.2182
Applying feminine logic to a situation, eh?
Stuart
|
33.2185 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Oct 31 1995 18:21 | 5 |
| Re -1
Why not? My mother was a woman ;-).
James.
|
33.2186 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Tue Oct 31 1995 18:30 | 5 |
| re -1
Really? I'm informed that all Leeds (x3) fans are sheep, therefore as
Mr Spock was fond of saying, your assertion that your mother was a
woman is "illogical".
|
33.2187 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Nov 01 1995 11:26 | 8 |
| Good result for Leeds (x3) last night. 3 - 0. Wonder who they will get
in the next round. Bet you Leeds (x3) are well chuffed with the game.
Oh you mean PSV won 3 - 0. Sorry, I thought Yeboah had scored a
hattrick. Silly me.
Stuart
|
33.2188 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Nov 01 1995 11:52 | 20 |
| Well.. such is life....
At least we didn't go out in the first round... like some other
teams.... and at least Liverpool went out as well... I would be more
gutted this morning if I was a Liverpool fan...
They had a "Good 0-0 draw away from home" .. what a load of rubbish...
away draws are never good... you need at least one goal as a cushion..
or else you leave yourself exposed to the away goals rule... as was
proved last night...
Last nights game was almost as bad as the first... the passing was
terrible... and the shooting was pretty poor as well..
Well at least Leeds can concentrate on getting some new central
defenders... I suggest buying the two from Brondby...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2189 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Nov 01 1995 12:05 | 3 |
| Rick,
Do we take it that you are upset. Aaah, ain't that sad.
|
33.2190 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Nov 01 1995 12:07 | 8 |
| >Upset
No not really... it has just brought a few truths home to roost... I
think we'll have a new manager before too long...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2191 | Hasn't HW got a couple of years to fulfill his plans/ambitions? | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Nov 01 1995 12:10 | 6 |
| Rick,
Given the events of recent days, I somehow doubt that you will get your
wish and see a certain Mr Graham in the 'Elland Road Hotseat'.
Stuart
|
33.2192 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Nov 01 1995 12:14 | 8 |
| > Hasn't HW got a couple of years to fulfill his plans/ambitions?
Well he'll be fulfilling them down the local job centre if he's not
careful...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2193 | New Board Of Directors Wanted!!!! | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Wed Nov 01 1995 12:42 | 5 |
| A new Board of Directors would also be a sensible move. We want
Directors who want to spend money on buying players such as Jungino
(sp?) and not gloat when they buy Beesley from Sheff Utd.
Shafiq.
|
33.2194 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Nov 01 1995 14:30 | 7 |
| English Soccer: RIP!
I was quite disappointed with Leeds' display last night.
It seems that the lads looked tired and were never really
in the game :-(.
James.
|
33.2195 | What's the deal on Brolin? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Nov 03 1995 13:24 | 0 |
33.2196 | Middlesbro | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Nov 03 1995 13:26 | 10 |
| I don't hold out much hope for Leeds away to Middlesbro tomorrow.
Middlesbro are doing well - deservedly so. Leeds look tired
and don't seem to have much confidence at the moment!
Prediction: Middlesbro 2 - 1 Leeds.
Crowd: Full house 29000.
Where the f*ck has Yeboah gone to?
James.
|
33.2197 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Nov 03 1995 13:28 | 11 |
| Well I haven't heard anymore about the deal so far... but it would be
good news if it is true.... however I think we should be spending more
money on our defence.. i.e. Someone to replace Tony Dorigo...
There is no point spending lot of money on attacking players if we are
going to give away easy goals... we're going to fall into the same trap
as Tottenham did last year...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2198 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Nov 06 1995 11:37 | 12 |
| SaoPauloBrough 1 - Leeds 1
Good result with Middlesborough playing at 110%.. esp. for us to come
back from behind... & Brian Deane scoring... whatever next...
(ooooh) Gary ( Gary, Gary... Gary... Gary... Gary... ) McAllister
played a blinder again... he was unlucky not to score.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2199 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Nov 07 1995 12:03 | 10 |
| Well according to soccernet, Thomas Brolin is in Leeds discusing a
move from Parma for 4 million squid...
Another report says that we have tabled an 8 million bid for both
Brolin & Asprilla....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2200 | Blackburn Game Date? | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Wed Nov 08 1995 14:55 | 6 |
| Can anyone confirm when the next round of the Coca Cola Cup will be?
Is this game all ticket/sold out etc.
Shaf.
|
33.2201 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Nov 08 1995 14:59 | 11 |
| Can't remember the date... it may vbe on the 29th Nov.
Tickets are available from the Leeds Dial a Ticket Line :
Leeds (0113) 2710710
Someone said on the mailing list that they are on sale now.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2202 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Nov 08 1995 15:54 | 2 |
| According to the IRN Web page, Brolin has passed a medical and all that
is left is for Leeds and Parma to agree a fee.
|
33.2203 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Nov 08 1995 16:30 | 7 |
| Yesssssssssssaaaahhhhhhhh!!
Hope he does sign...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2204 | | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Wed Nov 08 1995 18:54 | 9 |
| Re -1
Please don't hold your breath - remember Sosa and Asprilla?
Until I see Brolin playing I won't believe anything!!!!
Shafiq
|
33.2205 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Nov 08 1995 20:08 | 5 |
| According to radio 5.. we have signed Brolin...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2206 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Nov 09 1995 11:24 | 2 |
| According to every other news source, he will let Leeds (x3) know today
whether or not he will sign.
|
33.2207 | What Brolin like ??? | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Thu Nov 09 1995 15:10 | 13 |
| Serious question.... Is Brolin any good ? All I remember about him, is that goal
he scored against England. ( nothing to shout about there then....)
Does he play wide or the left or right....?? I seem to remember he's sort of an
"inside forward"
I am afraid I'll have to reserve judgement until/if he signs...
Why are we not also trying to sign a decent defender ? Scoring goals is one
thing but if we let lots in, what's the point ?
Brian
|
33.2208 | Tomas Brolin | STKAI1::VMOTTAGNING | | Thu Nov 09 1995 17:32 | 13 |
| Brolin made the world team after US-94.
He had a great season last year until he got badly
injured almost exactly a year ago. After that
ha have had problems to get in the starting line in
Parma. But he is always picked to the national team.
In Sweden he plays something like a offensive midfielder.
I consider him as a world class playmaker when he is fit.
The problem is that in Parma of today there is a couple
moore good players ( Stoichkov, Asprilla, Baggio, Zola,
Crippa) so it is pretty hard to come back.
I think that Leeds and Brolin will benefit if he signs.
Johan
|
33.2209 | Eros | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Here's 10p. Phone a man who cares! | Thu Nov 09 1995 17:43 | 5 |
|
Is he the one with a face like one of those cherub things that they have on the
side of fountains?
Ian.
|
33.2210 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Nov 09 1995 17:47 | 3 |
| Yes, I think that is a good(ish) description.
Stretch.
|
33.2211 | Gnome for Sale? | CHEFS::NASH | | Thu Nov 09 1995 23:51 | 3 |
|
Short Blond Git would work as well.....Maybe he should consider a move to
Chelsea, might fit in a bit better with the other Gnomes.
|
33.2212 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Nov 10 1995 11:02 | 3 |
33.2213 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Nov 10 1995 16:23 | 7 |
| > Apparently all is not well with the deal.
Well see... its not all over till the final whistle...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2214 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Nov 10 1995 16:31 | 3 |
| He isn't going to sign until at least the end of next week because (a)
he is playing for Sweden in Turkey on Wednesday and, (b) Parma haven't
sanctioned/started negotiations over the fee.
|
33.2215 | ET says he is on his way | GIDDAY::PARSONS | POLYCENTER on WNT Support | Mon Nov 13 1995 07:27 | 4 |
|
Well todays ET says Leeds & Parma sorted out most details on Friday and
all will be finalised tomorrow, with Brolin actually arriving next
week. It is not a loan, but no other details were provided.
|
33.2216 | SHock news... just in | CHEFS::PANES | Debbie Magee: Old dog - new tricks | Mon Nov 13 1995 11:33 | 7 |
| <<< Note 33.2215 by GIDDAY::PARSONS "POLYCENTER on WNT Support" >>>
-< ET says he is on his way >-
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I thought Beardsley was happy at Newcastle.
Stuart
|
33.2217 | Brolin Update | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Mon Nov 13 1995 16:31 | 13 |
33.2218 | Of course, that should read Leeds (x3) | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Mon Nov 13 1995 16:33 | 3 |
33.2219 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Mon Nov 13 1995 19:26 | 4 |
| Further to the previous note, the deal is apparently close to collapse
as Leeds (x3) are unwilling to meet the players and Parmas terms.
Stuart
|
33.2220 | n | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Nov 13 1995 19:39 | 13 |
| From the Leeds Mailing List :
Radio Leeds news at 4pm says that after a meeting
of the Elland Road Board, Fotherby has confirmed
that Parma have accepted the offer Leeds made. There
are still " a few loose ends to tie up" and an announcement is
expected as early as tomorrow.
Also Graham Taylor is now the ex manager of Wolves
--
Iain
|
33.2221 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Tue Nov 14 1995 12:15 | 9 |
| re -1
Nothing on the news that I've seen/heard and it is only mentioned in
the Press as a Brolin quote:
'First, the clubs are not in agreement. Second, I have not yet
fixed up with Leeds'
hmm, a case of over-optimism on the mailing list?
|
33.2222 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Wed Nov 15 1995 19:26 | 5 |
| The latest IRN bulletin states that Brolin will *not* be joining the
Sheep. It goes on to say that Brolin could not agree personal terms
with the Sheep and as a result will stay at Parma.
Shame !
|
33.2223 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Nov 15 1995 19:31 | 3 |
| Perhaps Rick or Stretch would like to put into words their
disappointment about this and the likely impact it is going to have on
the faltering (and non-existent) title challenge by Leeds (x3)
|
33.2224 | Should provide some alternative talking after the match !!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Nov 15 1995 19:43 | 6 |
| What I have to question is Strattos and Daves interest in the Leeds(x3)
mailing lists and players supposedly joining Leeds(x3). You two have
entered more notes in this string than Rick and myself together and
this Leeds(x3)(crap pun) me to question your real interests chaps !!!!
Stretch.
|
33.2225 | See you later Stretch ! | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Wed Nov 15 1995 20:02 | 9 |
| >What I have to question is Strattos and Daves interest in the
>Leeds(x3) mailing lists and players supposedly joining Leeds(x3).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Eh ? The IRN is an Independent news service which issues regular
sports bulletins, accessible on the Net. I merely thought that any
updates on the Brolin "deal" would be of great interest to yourself and
Rick, and therefore posted what I assume is now the resolution of the
matter. I do apologise if up-to-date, accurate information on your
beloved Sheep is not what you require !
|
33.2226 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Wed Nov 15 1995 20:12 | 23 |
| Metric Man,
>Leeds(x3) mailing lists
Err, What the hell are you on about? I've never mentioned the Leeds
(x3) Shearing List? All those lagers are going to your wool, sorry,
head.
>and players supposedly joining Leeds(x3)
This is a topic for general discussion. It concerned the attempt by a
club to sign a world class player. If you look at the rest of the file,
you will find various entries concerning the purchase of players by
people who do not support said clubs. In any case, reading the recent
entries in the Looneypool topic, a phrase containing the words "Pot",
"kettle" and "black" springs immediately to mind.
But, hey, don't get all defensive tall fella. I know you are upset
about Mr Brolin but I' sure you'll take comfort from the fact that you
have still got Brian Deane.
|
33.2227 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Nov 16 1995 12:09 | 7 |
| > Brian Deane.
Your only envious.....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2228 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Nov 16 1995 15:35 | 3 |
| According to IRN, Brolin is due at Elland Road for more talks this
afternoon. However, there are reports that Parma are pulling out of the
deal. Nothing like conducting straightforward negotiations is there?
|
33.2229 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Nov 16 1995 15:39 | 12 |
| Of course, all the Arsenal deals went through without any problems...
I wonder why...
oh yes... GG used to get a few bungs didn't he... a shinning light in
the world of International Transfers....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2230 | From the internet | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Nov 16 1995 17:12 | 16 |
|
Just when you thought every excuse in are failure to capture star name
transfers, a new excuse has serviced .... SNOW .
Yes, due to heavy snow falls in Sweden, Brolin has been unable to
leave Sweden today.
However, Wilko, speaking on Radio Leeds, said that he could "with a
reasonable amount of certainty that everything has been resolved
except for possibly one small point" and that he expects the signing
to go ahead.
Radio Leeds went on to say that he could still play on Saturday
against Chelsea.
|
33.2231 | Brolin scores his 6th against ManU as Leeds win 10-0... | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Nov 17 1995 11:58 | 6 |
| Well Brolin signs for Leeds this morning & will hopefully play for us
tomorrow against Chelsea......
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2232 | | TDCIS3::M_HOTLINE | Moon Monkey | Fri Nov 17 1995 12:01 | 4 |
| The phrase "I'll believe when I see it" immediately springs to mind
Gary$Cynic
|
33.2233 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Nov 17 1995 12:18 | 7 |
| Well the press conference to confirm the signing is in 15 minutes at
Elland Road... so I think that is probably proof enough...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2234 | | WSTENG::DSMITH | | Fri Nov 17 1995 12:37 | 8 |
|
According to the news this morning, the stumbling block was a
difference of 10k/week wages between the 2 sides. Wonder how
they've come to an agreement if there's that big a difference?
Is George Graham involved?
Danny.
|
33.2235 | i can't sleep for worrying....honest | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Here's 10p. Phone a man who cares! | Fri Nov 17 1995 14:49 | 5 |
|
well?
Ian$disinterested_anyway.
|
33.2236 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Nov 17 1995 14:53 | 7 |
| He's joined on a 2.5 year deal, with a "review" at the end of the
season to see how things are going along... a bit like the Yeboah
deal....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2237 | Can He Play Tomorrow?? | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Fri Nov 17 1995 15:24 | 7 |
| Rick,
Do you know if he is eligible to play tomorrow?
Shaf
|
33.2238 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Nov 17 1995 15:34 | 10 |
| Well they are trying to register him.... he should be registered with
the FA before mid-day... and hopefully international clearance shoudl
come from Italy before tomorrows kick off....
He'll probably be on the subs bench as he's only play about 3 matches
this season.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2239 | | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Fri Nov 17 1995 17:45 | 4 |
| Rick, I thought you were joking. This might really mean you are getting
rid of Brian Deane. Please tell me you were joking.
Derek
|
33.2240 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Nov 17 1995 18:00 | 8 |
33.2241 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Nov 17 1995 18:23 | 6 |
| Well Yeboah had the same deal & he stayed... if Brolin performs well I
can't see why he won't do the same....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2242 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Nov 17 1995 18:27 | 8 |
| Rick,
Are you not just a tad wary that Brolin is simply "using" the Sheep to
advertise his undoubted ability ? I'm sure a player with his talent
would have been looking for a move to a big club and not to the
arse-end of the world !
Dave
|
33.2243 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Nov 17 1995 18:31 | 9 |
| >move to a big club and not to the arse-end of the world !
Well he has moved to a big club... and he didn't join ManU so he hasn't
gone to the arse-end of the world... or do you mean that he wouldn't
ever join the Gooners....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2244 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Fri Nov 17 1995 18:35 | 20 |
| Rick,
> if Brolin performs well
If he performs well, some more glamourous club will attract his
attention with a huge wad of notes.
> I can't see why he won't do the same....
Funny but I should think that some of our Sp*rs fans could enlighten you
on footballers with these contracts.
Looking at the facts, what better place than the Premiership for him to
show his talents. Sweden failed to qualify for Euro 96 and therefore
the only way for him to get noticed was to leave Parma. If he was
really committed to Leeds (x3), you have to ask why he didn't sign a
deal similar to Bergkamps, i.e. no get-out clause, because they were
both in the same position at their respective italian clubs.
Stuart
|
33.2245 | The Good, The Bad ... | GIDDAY::PARSONS | POLYCENTER on WNT Support | Mon Nov 20 1995 01:17 | 9 |
|
Not a bad few days ...
Brolin signs, Yeboah scores, Leeds win :-)
But on the other hand ...
Brolin only 'really' signs until May, Leeds only beat Chelsea 1-0,
Next week includes Forest away and Newcastle away :-(
|
33.2246 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Nov 20 1995 12:47 | 8 |
| > Next week includes Forest away
This match had been postponed as Forest are playing in the UEFA
cup..
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2247 | Forest | OZROCK::OSMAN | Arif Osman | Tue Nov 21 1995 02:46 | 10 |
| | This match had been postponed as Forest are playing in the UEFA
| cup..
|
| Cheers,
|
| Rick.
Has the rearranged date been announced?
--arif
|
33.2248 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Nov 21 1995 12:40 | 6 |
| Nope.. not that I know off.. hopefully it will be sometime in Feb as we
don't want to play while TY is away at the African Championships... :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2249 | Possible interest in Limpar | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Nov 21 1995 18:21 | 42 |
| From: VBORMC::"RJMoxon@tico.demon.co.uk" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 21-NOV-1995 13:39:12.67
To: leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk
CC:
Subj: Limpar
Report from Skytext:
LEEDS LINKED WITH LIMPAR
------------------------
Speculation is mounting that Howard Wilkinson is on the verge of launching a
bid for Evertons's Anders Limpar.
Following the signing of Tomas Brolin it is thought that Wilkinson has targeted
a winger for his squad.
Limpar fits the bill ideally and is an international team-mate of Brolin.
However Everton are unlikely to allow the player to leave. He is a firm
favourite at Goodison Park and has been in fine form recently.
Becks
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33.2250 | A woman of good taste | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Tue Nov 21 1995 18:37 | 4 |
| Hmmm, given that one of the reasons Limpar wanted to get away from
Goodison was that his wife didn't want to live in Looneypool is that
she hated the North of England, I'd be surprised if he moved to Leeds
(x3).
|
33.2251 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Nov 22 1995 17:24 | 13 |
| Well there are reports that we are after Anders Limpar ... and Joe
Royal is trying to swap him fro Gary Speed...
I really think that we shouldn't get rid of Speed.. he's just some back
into form.... and we'd want 3 million plus Limpar if we did do the
deal....
There are also reports that Limpar going to Arsenal now that GG has
gone..
Cheers,
Rick.
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33.2252 | Dutch courage for police and Leeds fans | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Nov 28 1995 21:02 | 122 |
| From: VBORMC::"phudson@amauta.rcp.net.pe" "Peter Hudson" 6-NOV-1995
22:38:23.07
To: leeds list <leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk>
CC:
Subj: LU: Telegraph report on PSV police
Nobody seems to have mentioned the Electronic Telegraph report on the PSV
policing, which for once seems to be spot on, so I thought I'd post it to
the list. Sorry if people have already seen it. Seems like the Foreign
Office is doing the right thing by us as well so we can't complain about
unfair treatment by anyone except the Dutch police and our own club...
BTW, I'd like to get in touch with Glynn Robinson. Is he back on the list
or does anyone have his e-address?
Cheers,
Pete
****
Dutch police 'over the top' against fans
Foreign Office express alarm at deportation of Leeds supporters before
match against Eindhoven, reports Henry Winter
THE Foreign and Commonwealth Office have expressed alarm to the Dutch
authorities over their "over the top" treatment of Leeds United fans
deported before the Premiership club's UEFA Cup tie at PSV Eindhoven on
Tuesday.
Of the 123 supporters arrested, the FCO said that only four had
been involved in "violent incidents; it seems the others had done nothing
more than sing songs and other harmless football-fannish things".
The reason given by the Dutch, whose police rounded up the 119 at
Eindhoven station, was that the British fans did not possess proof of
identity, such as a passport.
This is a legal requirement for anyone travelling to a match under
a little-known local byelaw, which even the FCO admitted yesterday they
were "greatly surprised to hear of". The Dutch insist the law was
publicised on television.
"We have expressed our alarm and concern to the Dutch authorities,"
the spokesman continued. "The Dutch said their police were acting
according to the letter of the law, which appears to be true, but it was
still over the top."
Problems arose because those detained had left their passports at
their Amsterdam hotels. The Dutch police were unwilling to check with the
hotels, "which was why we have complained," added the FCO spokesman.
"The supporters were in a Catch 22 situation, as many hotels insist
on visitors leaving their passports as security."
All the 119 Leeds fans showed their match tickets (and many club
memberships) to the police. Unfortunately, none of these tickets had been
bought through Leeds United official trip organisers. None were in the
allocated away section, giving the Dutch legitimate cause of concern.
Yesterday British diplomats in Holland were busy clearing hotel rooms
and station lockers of the deportees' belongings
Eindhoven's police clearly had advance intelligence, though the FCO stress
there was no indication that these 119 were anything but innocent
supporters.
All 119 fans and the four trouble-makers were detained overnight
before being shepherded on to a English plane, which had just landed in
Holland bearing Everton's Feyenoord-bound footballers.
The FCO, meanwhile, had been busy. "We arranged with the police
meeting the plane [in England] to give all fans a letter from us
suggesting they get in touch with the consulate if they had specific
complaints about the way they were treated," the FCO spokesman added.
Steve Beauchampe, the international officer of the Football
Supporters Association, has also been dealing with the aggrieved fans. "It
was similar to Galatasaray [when Manchester United followers, plus
innocent British tourists, were wrongly deported from Istanbul in 1993].
It was all the usual stories of mistreatment of English fans abroad: one
guy was held handcuffed in a cubicle for four hours.
"Technically the Dutch were within their legal rights, but there
was no suggestion of misbehaviour. They bought their tickets in good faith
through a good travel company, who we have never had any trouble with. The
Dutch authorities should just have put them into the Leeds area - not
deported them."
Yesterday British diplomats in Holland were busy clearing hotel
rooms and station lockers of the deportees' belongings.
"A couple of coaches have been sent from Leeds to pick up the
bags," the FCO spokesman said.
Some fans have had to go back, as the spokesman explained: "We
have also arranged with the Dutch immigration to allow temporary entry to
those Leeds fans who drove to Holland and now have to go back to pick up
their cars."
Tini Gilsing, a spokesman for Eindhoven police, said yesterday:
"The English fans were informed in advance about the law. We told the
British police and Leeds United Football Club. We have good contacts with
them.
"They were not hooligans, though some were drunk. They were
well-behaved when they were arrested. They were arrested for not being
able to show any ID. Their tickets were for the Dutch area."
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33.2253 | Not cricket Middlesbro | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Nov 29 1995 12:49 | 73 |
| From: VBORMC::"iainm@visionware.co.uk" "Iain Mitchell" 29-NOV-1995 09:45:48.99
To: <jlundon@xstacy.enet.dec.com>
CC: <leeds-united@vax.ox.ac.uk>
Subj: RE: Bits and Bobs
> I was wondering whether anyone heard any more on a point Iain Mitchell
> brought up on his mail dated 6 November concerning a report of trouble
> outside the Middlesbro ground after our recent match there?
After a bit of a natter in the Peacock on Saturday night once ,we got
back from the Newcastle game, I found out the following about the
trouble at 'Boro.
There were at least two separate incidents that I found out about.
The first concerned the problem that the Family Club had , that was in
all the local papers. Ie they were ejected from the game at half
time. For whatever reason, the prat at 'Boro that sorted tickets out
for them got them in the Home end , at the furthest possible point
away from the rest of the Leeds fans. Consequently this did not go
down well with the 'Boro fans who subjected the family club to verbal
and physical abuse during the first half as well as spitting etc.. As
you would expect this soon created a bit of tension and the Police
decided the best thing would be to remove the family club from the
stand. They did not , however, relocate them as they used the Premier
League guidelines saying all fans in the wrong end are to be ejected.
This is a disgrace as it was 'Boros fault in the first place.
According to the bloke who runs the family club ,the reason this was
not mentioned in the Chelsea program was that the Premier League clubs
have an agreement that they cannot critisice each other over such cock
ups etc.
Another incident outside the ground afterwards was told to me by a
Travel Club steward who was subjected to a kicking by a gang of 'Boro
fans. There were a number of 'Boro lads up for it so to speak who were
looking for small groups or individual Leeds fans to start on. He
being on his own was set on as he tried to leg it back to the coaches.
After the attack he was talking to a female Boro fan who had kids
with her ,saying how she must be ashamed of the actions of the Boro
fans etc. To paraphrase her reply she said Leeds fans got all they
deserved because going to Elland Road was a bad experience and Leeds
fans were always doing the same and causing trouble.
STUPID COW. All those who go under the M621 to get to their parked
cars after the game know this is not so. I for one have many a time
been tempted to twat an away fan in the tunnel after a game as they
freely mingle with the Leeds fans to get to their coaches. I'm sure
many other have been tempted too but the fact is I have never seen any
such trouble as it is far to well Policed etc.
Any comments ?
Iain
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33.2254 | Disturbing undercurrents ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | Professor Yaffle | Wed Nov 29 1995 13:26 | 21 |
|
James
I am not very sure what point you are trying to make here. I am
sure we commiserate with your people put in the wrong end but these
things happen from time to time.
> I for one have many a time been tempted to twat an away fan in the
> tunnel after a game as they freely mingle with the Leeds fans to get
> to their coaches.
What is this ? An advocation of violence ? It is precisely this sort
of pathetic attitude which haunts the English game. Can you morons not
go to a football game without thinking about thumping somebody ?
> I'm sure many other have been tempted too
Well I haven't.
Malc.
|
33.2255 | Clarification | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Nov 29 1995 20:11 | 40 |
| > > I for one have many a time been tempted to twat an away fan in the
> > tunnel after a game as they freely mingle with the Leeds fans to get
> > to their coaches.
>
> What is this ? An advocation of violence ? It is precisely this sort
> of pathetic attitude which haunts the English game. Can you morons not
> go to a football game without thinking about thumping somebody ?
>
> > I'm sure many other have been tempted too
>
> Well I haven't.
Malc,
There has been a good bit of discussion on the list about the very
statement you query above. The person who made it says in his
defence:
"It would appear that your purer than pure attitude has affected your
ability to interpret the English language. I did not say " I have not
twatted anybody because it is too well Policed." I said that I have
never seen any trouble between the Leeds fans and away fans in general
due to the Policing. I will also stand by my view that I would love
to shut the smug away fans up when they win at SOTG. There is nothing
worse than being stuck in a crowd of smug fans in the surge to get
through the tunnel under the motorway. Having an urge to do something
and carrying it out are not the same thing. I totally agree that it is
unacceptable behavior, that is why I have drawn a distinction."
Why I posted it? I posted it because I think there are *almost
always* two sides to every story and it galls me to think that every
time Leeds are involved in any sort of trouble that it almost a reflex
reaction to blame Leeds for starting it - incorrectly as it turns out.
It proves that every club has the ability of turning what should be an
innocent incident into a full blown riot with alarming ambivalence!
Hope this clears this up :-).
James.
|
33.2256 | Leeds for the Q-F's | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Nov 29 1995 20:14 | 8 |
| I think we will turn over Blackburn 2-1 tonight and advance to the
Q-F's of the CCC. Brolin will probably start! Couple that with
Blackburn's terrible away record should mean we see Leeds though.
Hopefully a good house will turn up to see the tubby Swede start out
his Leeds' career with a flourish.
James.
|
33.2257 | How about Reading at home ;-) | GIDDAY::PARSONS | POLYCENTER on WNT Support | Thu Nov 30 1995 05:03 | 10 |
|
> I think we will turn over Blackburn 2-1 tonight ...
You should have put money on it!
Leeds United (2) 2 Blackburn Rovers (0) 1
Deane, Yeboah Kelly o.g.
Not bad. But watch us get Newcastle away in the Q-F!
|
33.2258 | Twighlight Zone | CHEFS::JAMESP | | Thu Nov 30 1995 10:53 | 6 |
|
There seems to be alot of inside knowledge going
on in this conference file, you hav'nt taken Grobbs
on loan recently have you ???
Pj
|
33.2259 | Brucie working for Digital? | GIDDAY::PARSONS | POLYCENTER on WNT Support | Thu Nov 30 1995 11:38 | 7 |
|
No we lost 2-1 to Newcastle not 3-0. What result do you want the
Leeds vs Reading to finish then?
;-)
btw Newcastle win the league - 5 points ahead of Man Utd
|
33.2260 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Nov 30 1995 12:15 | 7 |
| So its the mighty Reading in the next round..... :->>>
Anybody thinking of going to the match & the SOTG???
Cheers,
Rick
|
33.2261 | Maybe our year! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Nov 30 1995 12:37 | 12 |
| Re: -prediction
Damn, the bookies were closed when I got out of work last night, otherwise
I'd have bet the house on 2-1 ;-).
Great result. Brolin played well and we defended confidently!
Reading in the next round should pose no major problems ;-).
I wouldn't mind Wolves in the semi-finals and Villa in the final!
James (on a roll).
|
33.2262 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Nov 30 1995 12:39 | 13 |
| Great goal by Yeboah... 25 yard shot... excellent stuff.. looks like
the big man is back! :->
Bizarre own goal by Kelly..... but it made it an interesting match. :->
It was good to see Brolin doing well...
When is the next round...???
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2263 | Leeds (x3) ..............No probs ........we've got Nogan !!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Nov 30 1995 13:06 | 9 |
| Bring 'em on !!!! The BLUE ARMY will be heading your way soon !!!!!
Stretch.
P.S Glad to see Kelly keeping the tradition he set the other season for
the lowest header (copyright D.Baddiel + F.Skinner). Especially given
where the ball ended up !!!!! Great goal by Yeboah though.
|
33.2264 | Wolves is plural but?? | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Thu Nov 30 1995 13:07 | 4 |
| How you gonna have Wolves in the SF and Villa in the final when they
play each other next round???
Confused.
|
33.2265 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Nov 30 1995 13:07 | 5 |
| So Stretch.. are you going up????
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2266 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Nov 30 1995 13:29 | 16 |
|
Well for all you Reading fans who won't be able to get tickets for
the away end then the Leeds United Dial-a-Ticket number is :
(0113) 2710710
You should also be able to get them through Ticket Master...
(0645) 202020
but you'll probably have to pay a booking fee for the transaction &
for each ticket....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2267 | Royal New Year | CHEFS::JAMESP | | Thu Nov 30 1995 13:38 | 5 |
|
Next round 9th/10th January
Pj
|
33.2268 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Nov 30 1995 13:40 | 9 |
| Is that the week ending the 9th/10th Jan?
Excellent.. I'll be back in Leeds then.... :->>
So it'll be on the 5th/6th if that is the case...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2269 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Steer clear of the Zebra Bros | Thu Nov 30 1995 13:49 | 7 |
| Rick,
> I'll be back in Leeds then
Permanently?
Stuart
|
33.2270 | Gooding will keep him quiet anyway !!!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Nov 30 1995 13:50 | 5 |
| Rick,
When does Yeboah go off for his hols ???? Africas cup, or whatever it
is ????
Stretch.
|
33.2271 | No Stuart.. not permanently... | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Nov 30 1995 13:51 | 7 |
| Jan... but we'll have Brolin.. :->
And Deano.....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2272 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Nov 30 1995 14:29 | 5 |
| .2264
Oops.
James.
|
33.2273 | Leeds 0 - 1 Man City | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Dec 04 1995 16:08 | 10 |
| What a crap result on Saturday. I didn't expect to lose the match
and really thought we'd give them a good whopping! Not to be, I
suppose.
Maybe the lads went into the match with the wrong frame of mind -
it proves no team is a pushover and that you have to be as prepared
for the visit of Bolton or Man City as you would be be for the
likes of Newcastle or MUFC.
James.
|
33.2274 | Lancs 1 - 0 Yorks | MOEUR8::SMITH | | Mon Dec 04 1995 16:10 | 7 |
|
Why a surprise? Wasn't it Man. City who had the November Manager of
the Month award for 10 points out of 12?
No surprise for me!
Ian
|
33.2275 | Derby away in the F.A. Cup | GIDDAY::PARSONS | POLYCENTER on WNT Support | Tue Dec 05 1995 05:54 | 5 |
|
Back to the Baseball Ground again in January. 1-0 will do again
;-)
|
33.2276 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Dec 05 1995 11:53 | 16 |
| Derby... again... (!!?!?)
Yep.. lets hope we can do the business again....
On BBC Teletext it says that Yeboah may have to leave two weeks before
the African Championships start... this would mean that he would miss
the Mother of all Football games.....
But we have Brolin.... so there is not problem there.. :->
And Reading will still recovering from a defeat inflicted by
Gillingham. <* insert smiley thing *>
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2277 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Dec 05 1995 14:02 | 8 |
| Derby have improved since we've last played them in the CCC a few
months back.
The game will be tough but if we are to do anything in The Cup it's
good that we have tough games early - IMNSHO.
James.
|
33.2278 | I shed a tear when I read this... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Dec 06 1995 18:51 | 53 |
| What do they expect when they don't allow *any* away
fans into the Theatre of Dreams (sic)!
James.
++
MAN UNITED ANGER AT LEEDS TICKET POLICY
6 December 1995 at 07:15:27
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
LEEDS UNITED general manager Alan Roberts has defended
the club's stance on charging Manchester United fans
more than their City counterparts for matches at Elland
Road.
Leeds asked supporters of Alan Ball's side to pay =A314 to
watch last Saturday's game, but Reds' followers will
have to find an extra =A37 to see the Christmas Eve clash.
The move has angered Manchester United fans but Roberts
said matches were categorised at the start of the season
based on form, expectations and the attractiveness of
the game.
Under the system, which was started last season, home
fans also had to pay the extra and only the club's
23,000 season ticket holders were exempt.
He added: ``Our fans were subjected to it for years,
even in the old second division, by a handful of clubs
asking fans of popular, successful teams to pay more.''
He also confirmed Leeds' administration had spoken to
Manchester United about the admission prices and were
expecting them to issue a statement to their fans.
But the chairman of the Independent Supporters' Club,
Chris Robinson, retorted: ``This is typical of the
treatment of Manchester United fans by other clubs. We
are exploited just because we support a successful side.
``Leeds' excuse is that it is a Grade A match and City's
was a Grade B, but this is not the point - just because
we have a better side does not mean that the fans have
any more money.
``It isn't just the price of the tickets, it's also the
allocation which is unfair. City fans were given 4,000
tickets for their Leeds match, we've been offered no
more than 1,700. There's not a lot that our board can
do.
``I don't often praise Martin Edwards and the board, but
a few weeks ago Liverpool - in retaliation for United
not allocating them tickets earlier in the season - were
not going to provide any tickets for our fans until the
board threatened to take the matter to the FA.
``The bottom line is that Manchester United fans should
not have to pay for our club's success.''
|
33.2279 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Wed Dec 06 1995 19:18 | 7 |
| >What do they expect when they don't allow *any* away
>fans into the Theatre of Dreams (sic)!
Wrong ! Having recently obtained approval from the Manchester Police,
Utd allocated a section for approximately 1000-1500 away fans for the
recent Soton and Chelsea games. Neither side sold their full
allocation of tickets.
|
33.2280 | Confirm or deny? | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Dec 06 1995 20:12 | 12 |
| Re: -1
Dave,
Well, AFAIK, Leeds are going to get no tickets
for the return game in the Theatre of Dreams!
You are the first person to say anything about
MUFC giving any tickets to any away fans this
season. Can someone please confirm or deny?
James.
|
33.2281 | As I understand it ......... | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Dec 06 1995 20:25 | 8 |
| James,
I thouhgt the restrictions were during the rebuilding of the North
stand, which is progressing rapidly. While this was happening M U made
no bones about the fact that allocation would go to home fans only.
This seems to be relaxing as more seats in th N stand are completed.
Stretch.
|
33.2282 | They have to feed the Sheep. | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Wed Dec 06 1995 21:09 | 8 |
33.2283 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Dec 07 1995 11:56 | 14 |
| Well Leeds home matches have been catagorized for a couple of years
now... the home supporters like it no more than the away fans but such
is life.... we have to pay for Tony Yeboah some how... and making the
away fans pay to see their team loose to his goals certainly seems fair
to me & makes me smile.... :->
At least we're not any worse than Chelsea charging away fans 25 quid...
( This was the price a couple of years ago but I can't see Ken Bates
reducing the prices... can you? ) I don't see you complaining about
that....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2284 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Dec 07 1995 12:21 | 15 |
| James,
> Confirm or deny?
As I was present at both of those games, I feel in a pretty strong
position to confirm that away fans *are* receiving tickets. What's
the problem here - didn't you believe what I was saying ?!?!?!?
>Well, AFAIK, Leeds are going to get no tickets
>for the return game in the Theatre of Dreams!
I would advise you to get your information from sources other than the
ABU club - the relaxing of the ban on away supporters at OT was mentioned
weeks ago in several newspapers !
|
33.2285 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Dec 07 1995 13:52 | 11 |
| Dave,
My apologies for doubting you :-(.
MUFC got hammered by the media/fans for seemingly
not allowing any away fans into their games this
season and not since the rule has been relaxed,
I'm surprised that they (the club) haven't made
more play of the situation?
James.
|
33.2286 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Dec 07 1995 14:17 | 16 |
| No problem James - having had numerous "conversations" with Rick I get
the distinct impression that the majority of Sheep fans are so wrapped
up in their own little anti-Manu world, that the "truth" just gets in
the way !
Regarding the away fans issue, Utd couldn't really win could they ? If
they publicly announced that away fans were being allocated tickets
after all, the majority of people would only react with "about bloody
time too". For once, Martin Edwards didn't seek any publicity on the
matter and rightly so imo.
BTW - I don't think anybody in this conference has commented on the
fact that Utd's game vs the Northern Ireland XI was in aid of the Peace
Process. A pretty decent gesture by that uncaring monster called
Manchester United PLC don't ya think ?
|
33.2287 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Dec 07 1995 14:27 | 1 |
| And Jimmy Quinn scored !!!!
|
33.2288 | Come on Dave, we weren't all born yesterday | CHEFS::PANES | Chances are, we might be stars | Thu Dec 07 1995 15:02 | 13 |
| <<< Note 33.2286 by CHEFS::EDWARDSD >>>
> BTW - I don't think anybody in this conference has commented on the
> fact that Utd's game vs the Northern Ireland XI was in aid of the Peace
> Process. A pretty decent gesture by that uncaring monster called
> Manchester United PLC don't ya think ?
An admirable and selfless gesture, which I am sure that the club shop
in Belfast appreciated.
Stuart
|
33.2289 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Dec 07 1995 15:55 | 7 |
| Yep.. I've already mentioned it Dave...
Phil Massinga got the other goal! :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2290 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Dec 07 1995 16:52 | 13 |
| > An admirable and selfless gesture, which I am sure that the club shop
> in Belfast appreciated.
>
> Stuart
So Stuart, you honestly believe that a team with several 1st team
regulars currently injured or suspended, would risk further problems by
playing an unnecessary friendly game just to boost sales in the Belfast
shop ? Considering Utd are facing games against Pool, Leeds and
Newcastle during the next 2 weeks, I find your "suggestion" slightly
baffling to say the least.
|
33.2291 | Twist that knife..... | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Thu Dec 07 1995 16:59 | 9 |
| They only did it because 3 Man Utd associates were named in the Top 10
of the Most hated person in Britain Awards, and they wanted to try and
improve their National standing !!
:-)
Ian.
|
33.2292 | Maybe they thought it was the CCC | CHEFS::PANES | Chances are, we might be stars | Thu Dec 07 1995 19:01 | 29 |
| <<< Note 33.2290 by CHEFS::EDWARDSD >>>
>> An admirable and selfless gesture, which I am sure that the club shop
>> in Belfast appreciated.
>>
>> Stuart
> So Stuart, you honestly believe that a team with several 1st team
> regulars currently injured or suspended, would risk further problems by
> playing an unnecessary friendly game just to boost sales in the Belfast
> shop ? Considering Utd are facing games against Pool, Leeds and
> Newcastle during the next 2 weeks, I find your "suggestion" slightly
> baffling to say the least.
Dave,
I suspect that you mis-understood my posting. I imagined that people
involved in Manchester United, would be proud at being associated
with a club, that makes such an altruistic gesture , during this
politically significant time. Surely, the beautiful game, is one
of the things that brings people together.
Stuart
BTW What happening on the Wicks front?
|
33.2293 | It was for money after all | OZROCK::OSMAN | Arif Osman | Fri Dec 08 1995 03:04 | 9 |
|
They wanted to be *seen* as peace promoters thinking that Clinton
may be sufficiently impressed to include them among the beneficieries
of the dosh he has promised. Little did they know that Clinton does
not carry his cheque book with him. Perhaps showing him a video
of Kung Fu Frog battling against those opposing the peace process
may have pulled it off ;-)
--arif
|
33.2294 | Huh | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Fri Dec 08 1995 06:32 | 7 |
| Stuart ( .2292)
please explain your BTW line - what have I done now?
Regards
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
33.2295 | | CHEFS::PANES | Chances are, we might be stars | Fri Dec 08 1995 12:04 | 22 |
| <<< Note 33.2294 by AIMTEC::WICKS_A "Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman" >>>
-< Huh >-
> Stuart ( .2292)
> please explain your BTW line - what have I done now?
> Regards
Andrew.D.Wicks or can I call you Andrew,
Alack and alas, it wasn't meant to be your Warholian 15 minutes of fame,
but a reference to Manchester United Football Club PLC "tapping" young
players from other clubs. It this case, young Master Wicks ( son of
Steve Wicks ), a promising talent who was on the books of the Arse,
but has gone north to join Satan's Spawn in Salford. The FA , in their
normal knockabout way, have found Ferguson's Funsters (sic ) guilty,
but will not reveal the punishment.
Funny old world, innit.
Stuart
|
33.2296 | Not a close relation | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Fri Dec 08 1995 18:27 | 8 |
| Stuart,
A Wicks playing for the Mancs oh the shame it will bring to the family
name...
Regards
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
33.2297 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Dec 11 1995 19:43 | 5 |
| So are you going to the Gods vs Reading game then Stretch??
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2298 | The Gods are on the other side of the Pennines Rick !!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Dec 11 1995 20:31 | 3 |
| Yes.
Stretch.
|
33.2299 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Dec 12 1995 11:58 | 22 |
| >Gods over the other side of the Pennines...
Nope.. they live in Leeds... and now in Coventry.. ;->
Well, shame to see Whelan go... esp. with ManU game coming up.. :->
We must have needed the money.. esp. after paying for Brolin...
or we could be after Sutton.. :-> Brolin & him play in similar roles so
he probably wouldn't have got a regular place in the team.
Now we have four foreign players... Yeboah, Brolin, McAllister & Gary
Kelly... could be interesting if the limit of 3 foreign players in
European competitions isn't outlawed. Who does Wilko drop...???
It must also mean that Deano is staying...
Are the tickets for the Fizzy Cup on sale yet Stretch??
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2300 | OOOOHHHHHH AAAAAHHHH ERIC CANTOOOONAAAAAA !!!!!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Tue Dec 12 1995 13:10 | 18 |
| Ref Tickets - check the Reading topic !!!!
Akchewully they are on sale until the 16th to season ticket holders.
General sale from the 18th to us plebs. James L tells me that your mob
will probably not fill the place but we will still get no extra
allocation. 3,500 yer tight b'stards !!!. And you lot have the nerve to go
on about Man U's allocation during the rebuilding !!!
Stretch.
P.S James - I finally got to the 'Theatre of Dreams' on Saturday and I
am in a position to confirm away fans are allowed in 'cos we were two
seats from the rabble AND they had a lot of empty seats !!! Bloody
Yorkshiremen, cannae even fill their section !!!! Especially joyful to
witness their crestfallen faces after giving Eric the 'Wednesday
reject' chant only to witness his excellent finishing, clawing us a
point back !!!
|
33.2301 | Christmas was early at Hillsborough | FORTY2::JONES | Neil | Mon Dec 18 1995 18:28 | 7 |
|
Can I nominate Tomas Brolin's effort for goal of the season?
Neil
p.s. A bit quiet in this note today isn't? Even quieter than the Man
Utd note.
|
33.2302 | \ | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Dec 18 1995 18:53 | 10 |
| >Can I nominate Tomas Brolin's effort for goal of the season?
Why.. was it that bad??
Well Leeds vs ManU this weekend.... two good teams playing badly
at the moment... it should be a fun game....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2303 | Kelly cost me a load of points !!!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Dec 18 1995 19:10 | 9 |
| Rick,
Put it this way. Kelly could have some serious competition for
low lowest (unintentional) headers !!!
What do you mean you have not seen it ???? Big supporter eh ???
Stretch.
|
33.2304 | That was below the (tide) mark | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Mon Dec 18 1995 19:15 | 5 |
| Stretch,
Was it below sea-level?
Stuart
|
33.2305 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Dec 18 1995 19:24 | 7 |
| >Big supporter eh ???
Yep...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2306 | Wilko Out!!! | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Mon Dec 18 1995 20:18 | 14 |
|
Well I have been fairly patient with Wilkinson over the last few years.
I have been one of his 'loyal' supporters.
This has now changed. The man must go!
He is simply doing nothing to improve the performance of the team. We
need a manager with new ideas and tactics that can make use of the
teams strength.
Shaf
|
33.2307 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Dec 18 1995 20:19 | 5 |
| Bring on George Graham....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2308 | or you could have.............. | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Dec 18 1995 20:34 | 4 |
| Time for (Judas) McGhee to move ???
Stretch.
|
33.2309 | BTW Stretch, you were the source of much hilarity last night | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Tue Dec 19 1995 10:51 | 5 |
| Stretch,
Don't bank on it
Stuart
|
33.2310 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Dec 19 1995 12:36 | 6 |
| Were the words... Canal & Stretch connected with the hilarity?
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2311 | Not the only ones though | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Tue Dec 19 1995 12:51 | 5 |
| Err,
They might have been.
Stuart
|
33.2312 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Dec 19 1995 12:58 | 9 |
| Well I'm sorry that I didn't make it to the Grope & Hope to find out
the rest of the stories....
I was going to be there.. but got talked into going to the Royal Berks.
Hopsitals nurses bash instead... slightly more women there.. *8->>>>>
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2313 | Come By - Come By !! | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Wed Dec 20 1995 12:59 | 4 |
| Were there any their called Bo Peep, by any chance !!
Ian.
|
33.2314 | More to follow ......... | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Dec 21 1995 18:18 | 33 |
| Sung to the tune of that popular rhyme - all together now.........
Baa Baa sad sheep
Have you won a cup ???
No Sir, No Sir
Have we f*ck !!!!
None from the Fizzy
None from the FA
Put us in the 'Toto
It's our only chance to play !!!!
Sad Sad Rick Sheep
Have you any life ???
No Sir, No Sir
Just a load of strife
We bought Yeboah
Thought he'd save our Arse
But since October
He's hardly played a pass !!!
Sad Sad Leeds Sheep
Shouldn't start no flak
'Cos you're sad B'Stards
And your teams a pile of CACK !!!
Peace and Goodwill,(my arse)
Stretch.
|
33.2315 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Thu Dec 21 1995 18:31 | 4 |
| Erm, your third team have to play at Elland Road in January don't they?
Methinks that could come back to haunt you...
Stuart
|
33.2316 | BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!(again) | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Dec 21 1995 18:38 | 7 |
| Ohhhhh The great defender of the Sheep leaps into action and it is none
other than ??????? SRATTO. Go back to your Scots baiting and leave me alone
you turncoat!!!! Failing that I will bring my Collie in to subdue you and
your flock !!!
Stretch.
|
33.2317 | Ah, a nice 'Stretch' of water | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Thu Dec 21 1995 18:41 | 9 |
| > SRATTO
Who he?
So you try to threaten me eh? 'Water' hard guy you are! What the
'canal' am I going to do? Well, I'm not 'banking' on you to worry
me!!!!!!
Stuart
|
33.2318 | I hate to get involved, but... | MOEUR8::SMITH | | Thu Dec 21 1995 19:29 | 6 |
|
... reply 2314 is one of the most entertaining notes I have read in
this conference since I can remember...
Ian$West_Ham_supporter_in_the_wrong_note
|
33.2319 | Christmas thoughts... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 03 1996 20:41 | 36 |
| Well the Christmas didn't treat Leeds too badly: 2 wins, a draw and a
loss. The big one was won easily on Christmas Eve (3-1). It was made
all the better by the fact that Ferguson, after the game, could only
harp on about the penalty that wasn't - he hardly mentioned how
comprehensively his charges were beaten. The man must have a mighty
short memory for only a year ago MUFC got a penalty which certainly
wasn't a penalty, when Deane downed Wince *outside* the box. I don't
remember Fergie crying about a miscarriage of justice then, do I?
Fair is fair old chap - take your beating like a man! Was Cantona
even playing - another classic example of a fair-weather player?
Another good win was had at Bolton (2-0) a few days later - again on
the box. I'm 4 for 4 when Leeds are on the box this season. Another
good performance was put in by the lads that night.
Things start to go down hill after this though, when Everton turned us
over 2-0, even though they were playing with only 10 men for most of
the game. I should have known...
Another turgid - from the few reports I've seen - game was had on New
Year's Day at Elland Road. It was our first goalless game this
season?
Big, big game on Sunday against a team on a serious roll! It's on the
box and I'm putting my long unbeaten run to the real test. I'll be
happy with a draw and then whip them at Elland in the replay! It will
be important that Leeds go out in the right frame of mind as Derby are
dangerous and could do damage to our frail defence if we aren't
prepared. Remember Yeboah will be missing for most of the rest of
January, so it looks like we will have to make do with the deadly
Deane, Wallace and/or Masinga combination. Bet opposing defences are
quaking in their boots at the thought!
Until then,
James.
|
33.2320 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Jan 03 1996 20:55 | 10 |
| >Masinga
He's off to the African cup as well.... he's in the South African
team...
Why the 'ell did we sell Whelan.... God only knows....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2321 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Jan 03 1996 20:59 | 19 |
| >BattyBurn
It was a terrible game... a real waste of 21 quid... I should have
known better... Leeds were awful.. even Reading could have turned us
over.... & why the 'ell he took Brolin off I will never know.. he was
our best player....
>Derby
Well Derby have won their last 6 games... while we have won 2,
drawn 2 & lost 2..... its all lined up for a definate upset!
The game is live on Sky Sports @ 1pm on Sunday....
You coming over for the CCC 1/4 final James???
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2322 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 03 1996 22:55 | 7 |
| Rick,
> You coming over for the CCC 1/4 final James???
I'll wouldn't miss the final for anything :-).
James.
|
33.2323 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Jan 04 1996 15:06 | 5 |
| Yep.. it should be a good day out...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2324 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Jan 04 1996 15:13 | 4 |
| For the Royals contingent...........
Stretch.
|
33.2325 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Thu Jan 04 1996 15:43 | 9 |
33.2326 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Jan 04 1996 16:06 | 9 |
| 16 quid.. thats nothing.. I paid 25 quid to see Leeds vs ManU....
21 quid to see Leeds vs Blackburn....
How much do they charge to see Reading then.... 2d ?? .;->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2327 | One Lee Nogan, There's only one Lee Nogan !!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Jan 04 1996 17:11 | 10 |
| Rick,
We could get two (!) games for the price down here.
What was that about affluent Southerners and poor Nothern types ???
2d ??? We went decimel a few years ago. Get someone in your FLOCK to
explain it to you !!!!
Stretch.
|
33.2328 | Prices | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Jan 04 1996 19:38 | 10 |
| I do agree with Stretch that Leeds are pricing themselves out of the
market, charging excessive prices for what will turn out to be a
drubbing ;-). Leeds will be lucky if there will be 20K at the match.
It doesn't seem to worry them that there will be no atmosphere for the
game or that they don't understand the simple laws of economics: lower
the price to increase ticket sales => everyone happy - club with more
money, more people see Leeds, and better atmosphere. I suppose the
club isn't run by an economist ;-(.
James.
|
33.2329 | We will make some noise !!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Jan 04 1996 20:08 | 7 |
| James,
We have sold the bulk of the 3500 allocation (200 ish left) which is
not bad considering the distance/closeness to financial
ruin(christmas)/Wednesday evening etc etc so there should be some
atmosphere on the night.
Stretch.
|
33.2330 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Thu Jan 04 1996 20:19 | 7 |
| Stretch,
I presume that you will have to take it a bit easy when Leeds (x3)
score. After all, one misplaced cheer could result in you being
forcibly evicted or have you got tickets with Jarvis?
Stuart
|
33.2331 | Now back from where you came Stratto !!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Jan 04 1996 20:21 | 1 |
| Newcastle
|
33.2332 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Jan 04 1996 20:36 | 9 |
| >We will make some noise !!!!!
I hope your not going to wreck the ground when you lose!!!
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2333 | Arf Arf Arf Arf | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Jan 04 1996 20:57 | 4 |
| Rick,
How hard is it to knock a pen over ????
Stretch.
|
33.2334 | Most Obvious Comment of the Day (part 24039) | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Thu Jan 04 1996 20:59 | 5 |
| Jarvis,
Obviously, it would be improved by any act of vandalism....
Stuart
|
33.2335 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Jan 08 1996 11:42 | 12 |
| Well Leeds are through the 4th round after an up & down game at the
Baseball Ground....
After we went 2-0 down I thought that it was all over for another
year.. but goals from Speed, Deane, McAllister & Yeboah turned the
match around... :->
Well lets hope that Sunderland can complete the job & beat ManU.. :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2336 | You spawny toads !!!!! The Royals will give you your comeuppence | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Jan 08 1996 18:34 | 7 |
| Rick,
If your mob were any jammier Robertsons would sell them in jars !!!
Stretch.
P.S Try that nonsense on Wednesday and things will be done !!!
|
33.2337 | Leeds for Wembley! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Jan 08 1996 18:51 | 11 |
| Goodbye Reading. After yesterday Leeds' name is written on
one of the cups!
Simply the most incredible game I have even seen Leeds play
in. I was hoarse from shouting after the first two Leeds
goals going in, let along the second two. I kept thinking
that the linesman or referee would blow the whistle,
disallowing the goal because Deane didn't have his boot
laces tied correctly ;-).
James.
|
33.2338 | Reading are going to Wembley twice in a year - unlike your mob !!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Jan 08 1996 18:53 | 8 |
| James,
Arse !!!!
Stretch.
|
33.2339 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Jan 08 1996 20:19 | 9 |
| Yeah.. yeah.. yeah...
So Stretch.. which pubs you going in when your up in Yorkshire?? ;->
I could introduce you to a few Leeds fans...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2340 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Jan 08 1996 20:33 | 6 |
| Yep James.. I must admit I was jumping around like a wild thing when
McAllister & Yeboah scored those late goals.. :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2341 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Jan 08 1996 20:37 | 7 |
| Rick,
Jumping around like a (.......). I will not be visiting any pubs that I
know of. I am already paying you extortion merchants enough for the tix
in the first place !!!!
Stretch.
|
33.2342 | I'm sure you'd be safe...ish with that Reading shirt on... | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Jan 08 1996 20:42 | 5 |
| No pubs Stretch..... thats a shame....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2343 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Jan 09 1996 11:44 | 14 |
| Well Lee Chapman is returning to Leeds Utd on a months loan.... he
should get a game this weekend against the Hammers....
I'd rather Wilko had put one of the younger strikers in the team for a
few games... it would have given them a run out & we'd be able to see
if they're going to make the grade...
Also, Matthew Smithard has gone on a months loan to Northampton ( I
think )... lets hope we're not going to get rid of him like we have
Noel Whelan & Kevin Sharp.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2344 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Jan 09 1996 16:52 | 11 |
| > Am I going??
Yep.... sure am...
> How many tickets have they got left..
Don't know... & I don't care...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2345 | I reckon we will have the bigger fan base on the night !! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Tue Jan 09 1996 17:05 | 3 |
| And the rest ???
Stretch.
|
33.2346 | C'mon you ROYALS !!!!!!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Jan 10 1996 13:57 | 8 |
| Rick/James/Anyone who has done the route,
For the first time I have a SERIOUS question. How long will it take to
get from the fair town of Reading to the grim northern abode of Leeds
(x3) at Elland Road??? If anyone can give me a clue before 12;00 I will
be very grateful.
Stretch.
|
33.2347 | Follow the shepherds!! | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Wed Jan 10 1996 14:16 | 9 |
| I used to go to Leeds logistics from time to time and would allow about
3 hours. FWIW I would also go M4 Newbury, A34 Oxford then M40, M42,
A42 (Good dual carriageway), picking up M1 at East Midlands airport. I
always thought this latter was less prone to roadworks, traffic and
unplanned delays than the M4M25M1 route, although a little longer.
Anyway enjoy
Derek
|
33.2348 | Nearer to Villa Park | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Wed Jan 10 1996 14:19 | 5 |
| Stretch
You could always ask the great Leeds supporter Shafiq.
? Oh I forgot he's never been to Leeds let alone Elland Road.
|
33.2349 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Wed Jan 10 1996 14:24 | 5 |
| Derek,
Stretch is in the same boat then...
Stuart
|
33.2350 | Cheers | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Jan 10 1996 14:31 | 9 |
| oooohhhh Derek, You bitch !!! Anyway thanks for the route details. I
have shown them to the chaffeaur(sp) - Mr Kirkpatrick.
Will enter details of Leeds drubbing on the morrow.
Good luck against Wolves tonight. I hope you give them a good turning
over - no personal bias of course !!!
Stretch.
|
33.2351 | And you can ........ off Stratto !!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Jan 10 1996 14:32 | 1 |
| Come on the Toon army
|
33.2352 | Spelling ??? | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Wed Jan 10 1996 14:35 | 7 |
| It appears that your chaffeaur is A Cross between Shaf and a donkey!!
Never mind.
Only commenting on the spelling Jeff
Derek
|
33.2353 | Think of yourself?? | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Wed Jan 10 1996 14:37 | 4 |
| Stretch,
I take it -2 means you think you have more chance against Toon than
Strattos lot??
|
33.2354 | Well, he's been there once in his lifetime | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Wed Jan 10 1996 14:39 | 9 |
| Delboy,
I believe he was indicating that he believes Arsenals performance will
be on a par with that of Man U against York in the home leg. Man U, of
course, are his favouritist team in the whole world and nobody could
accuse him of being an armchair supporter of TGFTITW as he attends Old
Trafford on a regular basis.
Stuart
|
33.2355 | I have to go now - will continue the abuse Thursday. | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Jan 10 1996 14:52 | 9 |
| OI Stratto !!!
(inviting further abuse upon himself) You seem to have not remebered
the fact that this is the Rick slagging note !!! Keep your pithy
comments about my good self to my favoured team notes.
Stretch.
P.S At least I try defend my honour unlike certain other noters !!!
|
33.2356 | All over the place. | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Wed Jan 10 1996 15:02 | 4 |
| Stretch
As an unbiased observer it certainly didn't seem to me that Rick
slagging was confined to this note.
|
33.2357 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 10 1996 15:33 | 8 |
| Re .2348
Come on Shafiq: defend your honour!
Anyhow, Reading may huff and puff but they won't be
leaving Leeds with anything less that a 2 goal hiding!
James.
|
33.2358 | | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Wed Jan 10 1996 15:40 | 11 |
| Re: 2348
I must point out that I have seen the Gods play at Elland Road -
contrary to the comments made by Derek.
My most recent game was the one against Blackburn where I saw Deano
and Yeboah score two excellent goals. The trip was made all the
better due to Brolin makeing his home debut!
Shafiq.
|
33.2359 | | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Wed Jan 10 1996 15:52 | 12 |
| <<< Note 33.2358 by CHEFS::JAMANIS >>>
My most recent game was the one against Blackburn where I saw Deano
and Yeboah score two excellent goals. The trip was made all the
better due to Brolin makeing his home debut!
Shafiq.
Leeds and Blackburn ended scoreless, and Brolin made his home debut about a
month earlier. what were you drinking that day :-)
|
33.2360 | | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Wed Jan 10 1996 16:09 | 9 |
| Re:-1
You no what I mean!!!
I am talking about the game against Blackburn in the last round
Coca Cola Cup.
Shafiq
|
33.2361 | Once in every lifetime??? | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Wed Jan 10 1996 17:46 | 11 |
| OK Shaf, but come clean, how many visits to the great sheep dip in the
sky, per year of support. A small fraction I warrant, about the same as
Stretch at OT.
Its also true that you were offered a second trip to Villa Park to see
the dog trials, but declined on the basis that they were so c**p the
previous year you couldn't handle it??
Cheers (oops)
Derek
|
33.2362 | Praying for a Leeds win | CHEFS::BUSSONG | | Wed Jan 10 1996 19:40 | 5 |
| Be sure to stuff this Reading lot tonight, great Gods of Elland.
I shall enjoy the extraction of urine in the morning if you do.
From a bitter and twisted Swindon Fan
Graham
|
33.2363 | Norwich/Birmingham | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Thu Jan 11 1996 11:53 | 13 |
| Leeds 2 Reading 1
Masinga Quinn
Speed
Well we came from behind to win again!!!
The draw for the Semi Final has been good to us - Norwich/Birmingham.
Shafiq
|
33.2364 | Mystic Meg at work | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Jan 11 1996 11:53 | 13 |
| It's becoming clear, yes, I see it now...
24th March, Wembley...
Leeds 1 - 0 Arsenal...
Full house...
McAllister picks up the coveted trophy...
I'll be there...
James.
|
33.2365 | Venom, Bile and twisted viewpoints a speciality !!!!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Thu Jan 11 1996 14:06 | 91 |
| Points about last night........
Negative things :-
a) The phrase "We was ROBBED" springs to mind.
b) The chant about the refs off field, self stimulation hobby was more
than accurate.
c) Brolin is a huge waste of dosh. The only cheer he got from the Leeds
fans was for a cynical foul !!!
d) You rely on over zealous stewards to keep the away fans quiet. When
questioned as to why the Leeds fans are not being told to shut up their
answer, to an elderly father, is shut up yourself or you are out !!!
e) The supposed atmosphere from the Leeds fans started, briefly, just
before half time after scoring the second. "You only sing when you're
winning " !!!!
f) McAllister should have been sent off for chasing a Reading player 15
yards and kicking him up in the air. Followed later by other more than
necessary challenges on and off the ball.
g) You use plastic glasses in the pub !!!
f) Rick is going to be unbearable - so what is new ???
h) Happy stewards in the car park displaying recent scars from sense of
humour removal operation.
i) The fact that this has brought a Southern sheep worrier out of the
closet to link up with his Northern bretheren. Bloody Swindon in the
conference, lowering the tone !!!
j) Watching the "highlights"?!?!? when we got back last night. What is Brian
Moores problem with Reading ? Where were the microphones in the ground,
cos you would have thought Leeds were the noisier on the night. Untrue.
k) Getting to bed at 3 o'clock (got back at 1;30) staying up watching
said/sad "highlights" and having to work today !!!
l) Loads of things that should return to my mind later. Sleep
depravation and all that !!!
Positive things........
a) Reading can hold their heads high.
b) Having a laugh with some "Leeds" fans in their kit shirts. One of
whom came from the Oxford Road - Reading, Two others from Cardiff and
Swansea. No one seemed to know where to get a fanzine cos none of them
came from Leeds - No more flak about Man U supporters who do not come
from Manchester Rick !!!
c) The transport cafe next to the ground. Good, cheap nosh and a bloody
good cup of tea. Full of Leeds - No probs even when Clare stole someone
elses food !!!
d) The policemen (and his nice horse) who told us about said cafe.
e) Stopping at the services on the way up at the same time as 9
Horseman coaches - swarming with Reading to the confusion of most
people.
f) The two pissed Irish blokes at the bar who helped Clare get the
beers in - One Man U the other Leeds !!!
g) The friendly landlord at the pub - The Peacock. Where were you Rick
???
h) Wolves got beaten even though they did seem to have more posession
and chances. Any comments Derek ???
i) The petulant french man being sent off - No not Eric for once - top
laugh enough, but Rioch/McDermott dust up straight after surpassed even
the face of Ginola as he was led away by Les for major humour
j) As above reference memory/sleep loss/lack of other points !!!
If this all seems a little bitter and twisted that is because I AM !!!
All the above incidents did happen though.
Stretch.
P.S And you got an easy tie in the next round !!!!!!
|
33.2366 | I'll rise to the bait | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Thu Jan 11 1996 16:40 | 7 |
| James,
Best you keep your dreams to yourself young man. Leeds (x3) are the
weakest Premiership side left in the competition and given your recent
cup history, you ain't certain of beating Norwich or Birmingham.
Stuart
|
33.2367 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Thu Jan 11 1996 18:28 | 20 |
| Jimbo,
>It's becoming clear, yes, I see it now...
>
>24th March, Wembley...
>
>Leeds 1 - 0 Arsenal...
>
>Full house...
>
>McAllister picks up the coveted trophy...
>
>I'll be there...
>
> James.
How will you get a ticket? Don't Leeds (x3) have enough regulars to
take up their allocation before all the glory-hunters get in...
Stuart
|
33.2368 | 12 rouns to a fight?? | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Fri Jan 12 1996 11:35 | 15 |
| Stretch,
Not quite true, but I'll enter something in 67 later.
Yesterday I was with a couple of Birmingham fans who certainly had the
view that a Leeds vs Blues semi might provide more off park
entertainment than on it.
Its really a pity the it wasn't a Blues vs Villa semi as there are some
areas around Bordesley Green and Small Heath that are in need of
rebuilding!!
Cheers
Derek
|
33.2369 | Response | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Jan 12 1996 12:02 | 27 |
| Stuart,
. Best you keep your dreams to yourself young man. Leeds (x3) are the
. weakest Premiership side left in the competition and given your recent
. cup history, you ain't certain of beating Norwich or Birmingham.
All I say to that is: aren't we still there, which is a lot more than
can be said for 17 other Premiership teams. We have nothing to be
afraid of in either Villa or Arsenal. In fact both our cup successes
have been on the back of Arsenal: League Cup 1968 and FA Cup 1972 -
both 1-0 victories - hence my prediction for 24 March... We have
beaten Villa 2-0 already this year and owe Arsenal a good thrashing
for a few cup defeats earlier in this decade.
As for Brummy/Norwich, over two legs we should be able to squeeze
through especially as we are at home for the second leg.
Tickets may be a problem, but I am willing to purchase one if anyone
in the notesfile happens to have one spare, come the big day.
I will not rise to your glory-hunter remark ;-).
There is a modicum of bad blood between Brummy and Leeds because they
have an inferiority complex. We whopped them 3-0 in a FA Cup
semi-final 20+ years ago and haven't recovered since.
James.
|
33.2370 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Fri Jan 12 1996 12:34 | 12 |
|
>There is a modicum of bad blood between Brummy and Leeds because they
>have an inferiority complex. We whopped them 3-0 in a FA Cup
>semi-final 20+ years ago and haven't recovered since.
>
> James.
Isn't this "bad blood" the result of a more recent incident between
Birmingham and the Sheep ? I seem to recall a scuffle between the 2
sets of fans which resulted in someone being killed - did a wall
collapse or something ?
|
33.2371 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Fri Jan 12 1996 12:35 | 11 |
| James,
Leeds (x3) should be afraid of both Villa and Arsenal. Villa are
probably the best side in the country at the moment, in that they are
playing the most consistent football, and Arsenal are the best cup side
in recent years.
BTW, no club with serious aspirations to win silverware would ever sign
Leeeee Chapman....
Stuart
|
33.2372 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Jan 12 1996 15:08 | 17 |
| Re .2370
Correct I understand.
Re .2371
As I have already said Leeds are afraid of nobody - be that
Villa or Arsenal. We have beaten both sides multiple times
since we've come back up.
We have not signed Chapman, we have taken him on loan for a few
weeks, while half our team is gone off the Africa for the ANC.
Normal service will be resumed in two/three weeks. In fact I'd
be interested having a little flutter on Chapman scoring
tomorrow against the Hams. Wilko knows what he's doing :-).
James.
|
33.2373 | Another Leeds fan adds his 2p | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Fri Jan 12 1996 15:38 | 22 |
| I wouldn't say Leeds are the weakest premiership team left in the competion. Is
this remark as a result of our league position or are you winding us up ??
Shirley NOT !
I would say Leeds must be the most in-consistant team in the League. We can beat
anybody but we can equally lose to anyone as well. e.g. Man City and QPR.
But since when has league position had anything to do with the cups. I seem to
remember the Villa winning the Coke cup and finishing 17th in the league ( or
something like that ).
Leeds are in with a good chance of winning the fizzy-pop cup but that's all.
Just my opinion...
Brian
P.S. The ITV coverage of the Arsenal/Newcastle game was dire. Brian "I'm on the
ball" Moore was useless, as has been mentioned. I must be spoilt with the Sky
coverage who surely would have had covered the Ginola/Dixon incident better.
Also how about telling the viewers what going on in the other Coke games that
night. i.e. Score updates.
|
33.2374 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Fri Jan 12 1996 16:01 | 17 |
| >I wouldn't say Leeds are the weakest premiership team left in the
>competion.
Erm, ordinarily I'm not one to josh or wind people up.
Leeds (x3) *are* the weakest Premiership team left. If you look at the
tables, both Villa and Arsenal are higher and more consistent than
Leeds (x3). I may be old-fashioned but all of this nostalgia for Leeds
(x3) previous cup victories is over 20 years out of date. I doubt that
'Sniffer' Clarke is going to make a comeback to help you in a tricky
semi-final against Brum or norwich and then in a final where you will
be the underdogs, no matter who reaches it.
Sorry chaps, but you are onto a loser. Perhaps Jarvis would let us hav
his wise words on this matter.
Stuart
|
33.2375 | Virtual pints... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Jan 12 1996 17:38 | 7 |
| Stu,
OK buddy - 5 virtual pints that Leeds beat Arsenal in the final.
I remember that I already owe you one BTW.
James.
|
33.2376 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Fri Jan 12 1996 17:41 | 8 |
| James,
May I suggest that you & Rick come to some arrangement whereby he buys
me a pint and you pay him. Bales of hay and all that jazz.
As for your wager, 5 virtual pints it is.
Stuart
|
33.2377 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Jan 15 1996 11:47 | 7 |
| Morning....
I think it'll be Norwich in the next round.... :->>>>>
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2378 | Profound noting Rick !!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Jan 15 1996 12:53 | 3 |
| Why am I not surprised at the lack opf depth to the previous entry ???
Stretch.
|
33.2379 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Mon Jan 15 1996 13:07 | 7 |
| Stretch,
It would have been nice for Rick to have let us know his reasons behind
his opinion but he would seem to get mentally exhausted if his answers
extend to more than 2 lines.
Stuart
|
33.2380 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Jan 15 1996 13:28 | 1 |
| And that includes the Cheers !!!
|
33.2381 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Jan 15 1996 13:38 | 8 |
| Well I haven't got a lot of time to notes today... we'll discuss the
game down the pub tomorrow night...
Are we still going to the Posthouse??
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2382 | .... | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | Find a happy place...!! | Mon Jan 15 1996 13:43 | 7 |
| No,
We're going down the Sportsman at your recommendation. Meets there
at 7:30 ??
Ian.
|
33.2383 | | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Mon Jan 15 1996 13:51 | 2 |
| Ian, I'm sure you told me you were going to the Post House. You're not
trying to send Rick somewhere else are you??
|
33.2384 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Mon Jan 15 1996 14:13 | 6 |
| Derek,
No, Ian isn't trying to be nasty. We decided earlier today to change
the venue as The Post House is crap and expensive.
Stuart
|
33.2385 | Maligning Ian!!! | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Mon Jan 15 1996 14:21 | 9 |
| Ignore me then. Ian asked me last week if I was going, but obviously a
fourty mile drive after a night in a bar isn't to be recommended. I
obviously had an old song sheet as I wasn't coming.
Why don't I just stop waffling.
Enjoy
Derek
|
33.2386 | New players for old? | CHEFS::BUSSONG | | Tue Jan 16 1996 11:42 | 6 |
| Leeds have signed Uli Borowka on loan for the rest of the season from
Werder Bremen. Borowka is 33 and a former international left back. They
apparently also have Australian international defender Tony Popovic on
trial.
Graham
|
33.2387 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Jan 16 1996 11:51 | 11 |
| Hmmm.. I wonder if they are worried about Tony Dorigo... he pulled up
on Saturday & it might have been a re-occurance of the injury he's had
for most of the season.
Is the Australian defender a full international?? Does he have a
British Passport????
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2388 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Tue Jan 16 1996 12:02 | 10 |
| Rick,
>Is the Australian defender a full international?? Does he have a
>British Passport????
He's got British ancestors and doesn't need a work permit. Apparently,
they left England many years ago on a HM Government sponsored tour
party...
Stuart
|
33.2389 | How does the Non-European player rules work now? | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Jan 16 1996 12:08 | 11 |
| Please correct me if I'm wrong but if he's played for the Australian
team then he won't be considered as a European Community player? Aren't
we are still limited to 3 non-European foreign players in any league
match?
With Tony Yeboah, Phil Massinga & now this new Australian we have
reached our limit....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2390 | Decisions, decisions | CHEFS::BUSSONG | | Tue Jan 16 1996 12:39 | 5 |
| Yes I think that's how it works. If Leeds sign him then 3 from Yeboah,
Masinga, Radebe and Popovic can play as well as any number of EU
players like Borowka.
Graham
|
33.2391 | No way Kelly should have been sent off... | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Sun Jan 21 1996 14:40 | 12 |
| Liverpool 5 - Leeds 0
This game was about even up until Kelly got sent off... and with
rubbish defenders like Worthington, Beesley & Palmer at the back we
had no chance... Like Trevor Brooking said on MOTD, we need a couple of
solid defendders to cover when Dorigo & Radebe are out, plus another
body in midfield.
I don't think Brolin will stay after the end of the season.. he
just wasn't in the game..
|
33.2392 | Revenge is sweet | METSYS::HERO::CHEWTER | Do you like our fish? | Mon Jan 22 1996 11:33 | 5 |
|
Shame we couldn't arrange the tickets eh Rick ;-)
Looks like justice is done after that fluke victory you had at the pen
earlier this season.
|
33.2393 | Tickets.. no thanks | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Jan 22 1996 11:44 | 6 |
| Yes John.. I was just thinking that while I was listening to the game
on Radio 5....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2394 | Ha Ha | IOSG::LAYNE | | Mon Jan 22 1996 12:24 | 7 |
| Rick,
You sound very humbled this morning -:)
William
Yes - I know QOR lost again.
|
33.2395 | outclassed, outplayed, outthought | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Here's 10p. Phone a man who cares! | Mon Jan 22 1996 13:16 | 6 |
|
> No way Kelly should have been sent off...
get outta town! Even Brian Lindley reckons he should have walked!
Ian.
|
33.2396 | Glad I dropped Kelly from my fantasy team last week !!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Jan 22 1996 13:19 | 8 |
| Rick,
Lessons on tackling in the box really need instigating. You could
have had two off if you had had the ref we had on Saturday.
Stretch.
P.S HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!
|
33.2397 | | COMICS::LINDLEY | | Mon Jan 22 1996 16:42 | 14 |
| Ian - Not busy in the Unix group today, then ???
What I actually said was that the ref had little option but to send
Kelly off, because Ref are not allowed to think or give judgement
nowadays.... After that it ceased to be a contest.
Still 5-0, 5 bl**dy nil.
We need a better defence. Please Mr Atkinson, come and buy Palmer,
please. We need Jobson and Dorigo back PDQ.
Still Mad dog knows best, doesn't he ?
Brian
|
33.2398 | Bolton away in the Cup | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Jan 26 1996 16:16 | 14 |
| I think Leeds will find the going a little more difficult
at Bolton this time around, than they did when they
visited at Christmas. For one, Leeds will be missing
at least 3 of the team that played there, and are after
coming off a very big defeat against the Red Scouse.
Saying that I think Leeds will get away with a win,
possibly 2-1 with Deane getting on the score sheet
to prove the manager wrong for not picking him first
choice last weekend.
Cup double still on!
James.
|
33.2399 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Fri Jan 26 1996 16:23 | 8 |
| I hope he plays some of the youngsters such as Harte & Gray... I think
they are the future of Leeds.... I certainly leave out Carlton... we
should sell him off Coventry & get someone like John Colins in
midfield.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2400 | Anyone with any ideas ??? | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Jan 26 1996 17:11 | 7 |
| James,
Off at a slight tangent here. Do you know the frequency RTE
broadcasts on?? Couple of people without tickets for the game would
like to know.
Stretch.
|
33.2401 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Fri Jan 26 1996 17:14 | 5 |
| Rick,
You aren't suggesting that Carlton Palmer is less than fantastic as a
centre-half are you? Whatever next? Howard Wilkinson looking slightly
pissed off when questioned about Asprilla on Sky TV?
|
33.2402 | Not possible without satellite | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Jan 26 1996 17:42 | 7 |
| I have no idea whether it's possible to get RTE TV signals
in the Reading/London area. I think your best bet would be
to shop around the "Oirish" pubs in your area asking whether
they are getting a feed from RTE via satellite. I certainly
don't think it's possible to get RTE TV so far east otherwise.
James.
|
33.2403 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Fri Jan 26 1996 17:43 | 2 |
| Oh goodie, everyone who hasn't got a ticket can pile into The Albion
along the Oxford Road. No chance of trouble in there chaps...
|
33.2404 | HELP !!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Jan 26 1996 17:48 | 7 |
| James,
I am going to be there so viewing is not a problem. Someone in
Ireland is taping the game for us from RTE so again no problems. The
problem is for people with dishes who want to try and tune their
systems in.
Stretch.
|
33.2405 | Forest away | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Jan 31 1996 19:24 | 16 |
| We have a tough match against Forest tonight at their gaff. We were
walloped there last year in the middle of our end of season run. In
fact, if memory serves me right, we only lost one of our last 16
league matches, that one loss happening to be at Forest.
Leeds have a few injuries and suspensions and with
Yeboah/Masinga/Radebe fighting it out in the ANC it looks like we will
be putting out a little less than optimal line up.
I think we are already thinking in terms on the cups - the league not
mattering too much, except maybe to blood some more of the youngsters.
I cannot see us getting anything out of the game, a point would be
a bonus though.
James.
|
33.2406 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Jan 31 1996 19:51 | 8 |
| Yep.. I have to agree with ya there James... we'll be lucky to get
anything at Forest esp. with people like Ford etc out of the team...
Is Carlton suspended or is that just wishful thinking on my part?
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2407 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Wed Jan 31 1996 19:53 | 6 |
| Rick,
No wishful thinking on your part would be if Carlton got sold...
Stuart
|
33.2408 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Jan 31 1996 19:54 | 5 |
| Esp. to Coventry in exchange for Dublin... :->
Cheers,
|
33.2409 | Carlton Palmer: New England Manager? | CHEFS::BUSSONG | | Thu Feb 01 1996 12:15 | 3 |
| What are you complaining about, he scored last night didn't he?;-}
Graham
|
33.2410 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Thu Feb 01 1996 12:16 | 1 |
| What another own goal?
|
33.2411 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Feb 01 1996 12:37 | 6 |
| Yep.. he scored a goal.. & then gave away a penalty.. so we still
lost...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2412 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Feb 01 1996 16:19 | 4 |
| At least I predicted the correct score last night
sigh...
James.
|
33.2413 | Aston Villa away | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Feb 02 1996 14:05 | 10 |
| Another tough away game this Saturday. I think Leeds can get
something out of this game though - possibly a 1-1 draw. Villa were
well stirred up last Wednesday night against Liverpool. Tomorrow's
game is also a possible curtain raiser to the CCC final in 6 weeks
time (which reminds me that I have to start looking at the flights for
the w/e of 24 March).
Get those non-alcoholic beers ready Rick :-).
James.
|
33.2414 | LIGHTWEIGHT | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Feb 02 1996 16:27 | 1 |
| Non-alcoholic???
|
33.2415 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Fri Feb 02 1996 16:43 | 3 |
| >Non-alcoholic???
Ah, I get it. That's irony...
|
33.2416 | TWAT!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Feb 02 1996 17:12 | 2 |
| Shut up Stratto, as far as you understand things Irony is a vitamin
supplement.
|
33.2417 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Feb 02 1996 18:18 | 1 |
| I don't drink :-)
|
33.2418 | Not drinking is for GURLIES!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Feb 02 1996 18:28 | 3 |
| So James, given your teetotalism, how can you watch Leeds SOBER eh?
Stretch.
|
33.2419 | Villa 3 - Hopeless Utd 0 | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 05 1996 13:36 | 10 |
| Well another outstanding defeat..... with good ol' Carlton doing his
bit to make sure we went down.... :-/
Looks like Brolin is going to be leaving after being dropped on
Saturday... but at least we'll have Yeboah back for the game on
Wednesday.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2420 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 05 1996 13:40 | 3 |
| Should have kept Whelan eh?
Stretch.
|
33.2421 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 05 1996 14:09 | 7 |
| Yep.. we should have kept Whelan & got rid of Brolin...
Lets hope GG is installed as the new manager come July...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2422 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Feb 05 1996 15:08 | 8 |
| Great seeing all these ecstatic Villa fans coming
out of the woodwork over the weekend.
Nothing to worry about, Wilko is just lulling ye
all into a false sense of security ;-). The cup
double is still on!
James.
|
33.2423 | | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | You ain't seen me, roight? | Mon Feb 05 1996 16:32 | 9 |
|
RE. The cup double is still on!
True but not winning either is not much to be proud of.
Jeff
|
33.2424 | Reasons to be cheerful Reasons to be cheerful Reasons to be cheerful | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Mon Feb 05 1996 16:58 | 4 |
| re -2
Why should Villa fans be ecstatic about a home victory over a barely
moderate mid table side???
|
33.2425 | Nice one Derek. | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 05 1996 18:15 | 1 |
| oooooo You Bitch!
|
33.2426 | It could be worse | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Feb 05 1996 18:53 | 15 |
| Well if Wilko cannot pull, at least, one of the cups out of the bag
this season he can kiss his ass goodbye. We have suffered enough at
his hands over the past few years and are near the end of our tether.
Wilko is playing his last two hands of cards (CC and FA Cup) and he
better be packing a good hand if he expects to start next season as
manager!
I'm stil pro-Wilko but am wavering after the last three disasters.
James.
P.S. It could be worse: I could be a Reading or Middlesbro fan :-).
P.P.S. Watch your language Stretch, I no Gurl ;-).
|
33.2427 | Please explain "I no Gurl" !?!?! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 05 1996 20:00 | 5 |
| James,
It could be better though. If, of course, your loyalties lay on the right
side of the Pennines!
Stretch.
|
33.2428 | Reading wouldn't have you! (NOT the Biblical variety) | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 05 1996 20:15 | 7 |
| Sorry James,
After extensive studies by linguistic experts (me) it has been
decided that you are performing the ancient craft of bragging/boasting.
Sad to inform you that talking to the "Gurl" behind the McDonalds counter
does not constitute "nooing" in the Biblical sense!
Stretch.
|
33.2429 | Bloody Gloryhunters !!! Only chance you had of a Wembley trip! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 05 1996 20:17 | 5 |
| AND another thing while on the subject of Leeds(x3) and the Mighty
Reading. Rick, Would you care to enlighten the noting community as to the
item of neckwear you had on the other night? eh! EH?
Stretch.
|
33.2430 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 05 1996 20:22 | 5 |
| What... my Leeds scarf you mean.... ;->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2431 | | CHEFS::COOPERT1 | Captain Compassion. | Mon Feb 05 1996 20:23 | 4 |
| Rick, how many Chelsea players in your fantasy team thingy?
CHARLES "CHARLEY" CHARLES
|
33.2432 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 05 1996 20:24 | 6 |
| 2... I didn't pick them cos they were Chelsea.. I picked them cos they
were good players.... who should be playing for Leeds...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2433 | Am I glad I dropped Kelly from my fantasy team! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 05 1996 20:28 | 3 |
| Rick,
Ref .2430. Not quite you little liar!
|
33.2434 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 05 1996 20:54 | 5 |
| Don't know what ya mean mate..
Cheers,
Rick
|
33.2435 | Do the decent thing Rick, Show your true colours! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 05 1996 20:57 | 5 |
| Rick,
Either stand up and tell them yourself or someone else may have too!
Stretch.
|
33.2436 | | CHEFS::COOPERT1 | Captain Compassion. | Tue Feb 06 1996 16:52 | 6 |
| .2432
Just admit it, you're a closet Chelsea fan.
CHARLEY
|
33.2437 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Feb 07 1996 16:07 | 8 |
| >you're a closet Chelsea fan.
Nope... never... not in a million years....... they'd have to drag
me out & shoot me before I'd admit to being a Chelsea fan...
Cheers,
Rickm.
|
33.2438 | Do the right thing! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Feb 07 1996 17:14 | 1 |
| Last chance Rick!
|
33.2439 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Wed Feb 07 1996 17:17 | 6 |
| Stretch,
FFS, get on with it. This 'outing' is taking longer than Paul
Patemans...
Stuart
|
33.2440 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Feb 07 1996 17:27 | 6 |
| I'll let you tell them Stretch.. you'll probably get a kick out of it..
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2441 | It was a READING scarf. Bought to go too Wembley.Gloryhunter!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Feb 07 1996 17:27 | 1 |
| And you know the answer, Stratto!
|
33.2442 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Wed Feb 07 1996 17:30 | 10 |
| >Bought to go too Wembley.
Well.. I bought it cos it was cheap... like the team...
You can't get a good thick Leeds scarf for under a five quid.... so
I thought I give the money to my local charity....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2443 | Obvious answer | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Wed Feb 07 1996 17:37 | 8 |
| Rick,
> You can't get a good thick Leeds scarf
Well it must be the only thing about the club and its supporters that
isn't.
Stuart
|
33.2444 | Here's to Wembley | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Feb 09 1996 18:54 | 6 |
| I'm optimistic about the game on Sunday. I think Leeds will do the
business against Brum, maybe 2-1.
Here's to Wembley!
James.
|
33.2445 | And Reading have got Bary F's mob last game of the season. | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Fri Feb 09 1996 19:05 | 7 |
| James,
Your defence want to watch out for Francis. Huge bloke. Took all of
the Norwich team on last week, and won! I can see young Kelly just
about reaching his kneecaps! Will Samways be in the squad by then? Or
more importantly will Vinnie "I'm no Animal" Jones?
Stretch.
|
33.2446 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Feb 09 1996 19:20 | 3 |
| Re: huge bloke
Remember Stretch, we have Palmer :-/.
|
33.2447 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Fri Feb 09 1996 19:48 | 3 |
| Palmer?!!
He makes Gus Caesar look elegant.
|
33.2448 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Feb 09 1996 20:02 | 1 |
| ;-)
|
33.2449 | A WIN in a Semi-Final!!!!!!! | GIDDAY::PARSONS | POLYCENTER on WNT Support | Mon Feb 12 1996 05:21 | 11 |
|
League Cup Semi-Final 1st Leg
Birmingham City (1) 1 Leeds United (0) 2
Yeboah
Chris Whyte o.g.
Not a great performance or result but any win in a semi-final will
do. Now if they can just avoid doing something stupid in the second
leg it's Wembley here we go.
|
33.2450 | Just for Stretch & the other Reading fans.... | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 12 1996 11:43 | 12 |
| Wembley.. Wembley...
We're the Great Leeds United & we're off to Wembley.....
Wembley.. Wembley...
We're the Great Leeds United & we're off to Wembley.....
Wembley.. Wembley...
We're the Great Leeds United & we're off to Wembley.....
Wembley.. Wembley...
We're the Great Leeds United & we're off to Wembley.....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2451 | So what's your prediction for the replay James?? | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 12 1996 11:49 | 18 |
| Well not a bad match... Kevin Francis goal was outstanding... it was
lucky it didn't break the post..
We woz lucky in places but it looks like our name could be on the
cup.... at least we have two away goals for the next round.
McAllister was outstanding.. & according to Teletext Arsenal are
trying to sign him for 3 million.... I think they're going to add
another 2-3 million to that figure if they're going to have any hope..
Yeboah look tired after playing quite a few games... but he still comes
up with the goods in the end.. :->
Overall.. a good game... & I can't wait for the second leg.... :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2452 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Mon Feb 12 1996 12:14 | 7 |
33.2453 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 12 1996 12:17 | 6 |
| Knowing Howard... he'll probably do a straight exchange for McGoldrick
or Parlour.... :->>>
Cheers,
Rick
|
33.2454 | Don't forget the rest of the Arsenal midfield | CHEFS::BUSSONG | | Mon Feb 12 1996 13:16 | 3 |
| Rioch may through Morrow and Hillier into that deal as well!;->
Graham
|
33.2455 | Where was Pig boy then? | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 12 1996 14:32 | 11 |
| And Robertsons unveil the new line in Semi-Final Jam! Called the Leeds
extra Jammy Jam flavour!
Not the most inspiring of games. Francis' goal was a corker (I said to
watch out for him). If Yeboah keeps missing shots like that row z
blaster from a couple of feet out Man U may well have to sign him!!!
Clare mumbled something about been here, seen that, got sod all
as soon as your equaliser went in.
Stretch.
|
33.2456 | So you'll be supporting Leeds in the second leg then Stretch? | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 12 1996 14:34 | 7 |
| >Where was Pig boy then?
On his way out of Leeds from what I can make out....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2457 | Same with Villa on Wednesday ! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 12 1996 14:46 | 2 |
| Rick,
I may not be a big Brum fan normally but in two weeks time.....
|
33.2458 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 12 1996 14:54 | 6 |
| Anybody would think you're a little bit sore after loosing in the 1/4
finals Stretch.. ;->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2459 | Don't tell anyone else. | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Mon Feb 12 1996 17:30 | 4 |
| Hang on Stretch, even I was yelling when Francs put that one in, and
thats a capital offence back home.
Derek
|
33.2460 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 12 1996 17:39 | 8 |
| Derek,
I'm sure that would be forgiven due to the "oppostion" on the day.
Mitigating circumstances and all that.
Stretch.
P.S So are we going for a drinkies for the Villa - Arse match? Will
Stratto bottle it? Do we care?
|
33.2461 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Mon Feb 12 1996 17:46 | 7 |
| Stretch,
Which leg are we talking about? If it's the second leg, yeah ok, I
s'pose I'd better go even if it is just to watch you make a buffoon of
yourself as per usual.
Stuart
|
33.2462 | Sooner than you would like? | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 12 1996 18:25 | 4 |
| Stratto,
1st leg. This Wednesday , I believe.
Stretch.
|
33.2463 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Mon Feb 12 1996 18:26 | 4 |
| In that case Stretch, I shall be unable to attend as I will be at
Highbury.
Stuart
|
33.2464 | Or even Perrier - Ugh!!! | CHEFS::WEAVERD | | Mon Feb 12 1996 19:08 | 2 |
| Love to join this Wed., but my old problem is a 40 mile drive, and I
certainly don't intend to watch clutching a can of diet coke!!!!!
|
33.2465 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Mon Feb 12 1996 19:13 | 6 |
| Wow.. Stuart is a real Arsenal supporter... you don't find too many of
those now a days..
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2466 | No Gary Mac for 3 million... | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Tue Feb 13 1996 12:33 | 21 |
| Well it looks like the F.A. are going to take action after the
disgusting incidents that happened at the CCC Semi Final on Sunday.
Gary McAllister was hit by a coin thrown from the Birmingham City fans,
and it was reported on Ceefax that the linesman had retreived a snooker
ball which had been thrown onto the pitch.
Later on, Leslie Silver & other members of the Leeds board had their
mini van attacked a mile away from the St. Andrews ground... although
the police have not been able to determine whether it was caused by
Birmingham City fans.
Birmingham City have sunk even lower then Millwall in my list of teams
that I'd hate to see in the Premier League.
In my opinion, their fans should be banned from both Home & Away
matches for the rest of the season.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2467 | Hang 'em high! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Tue Feb 13 1996 12:58 | 19 |
| Rick,
> Well it looks like the F.A. are going to take action after the
> disgusting incidents that happened at the CCC Semi Final on Sunday.
What? Are they are going to ban Leeds from the cup for being Jammy sods!
But seriously folks. I can understand your rage at their behaviour.
Reading have got them away for the last game of the season. What a trip
to look forward too. They still hold a grudge about the Royals from a
few years back so need no excuse for a bit of trouble. What I cannot
understand is the fact that the F.A (aptly named) do nothing when
Millwall/Birmingham repeatedly commit these acts i.e Spanner throwing
by Millwall at Elm Park this season while they still had a huge fine
hanging over them from last seasons dust up with Derby. Birmingham and
Millwall have already had a run in this season as well! Birch the lot
of them! Bring back the cane etc etc
Corporal_punishment_Stretch.
|
33.2468 | Every team has 'em | CHEFS::JAMESP | | Tue Feb 13 1996 13:11 | 4 |
|
Whats happening about the coin incident at Elm Park then ???
Pj
|
33.2469 | Second Leg date yet? | ESSB::TJORDAN | Stan The Man | Tue Feb 13 1996 14:14 | 5 |
| Hello Folks,
When is the 2nd leg on ?
Tony.
|
33.2470 | 25/2, 12 noon kick-off | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback and Nasty | Tue Feb 13 1996 14:15 | 1 |
|
|
33.2471 | Sad but true! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Tue Feb 13 1996 14:34 | 10 |
| Pj,
Things have gone very quiet on that front. A steward, apparently,
identified the twat in question but nothing has happened that I have heard.
I do agree with you that all grounds have their own fair share of
prats, and I was , honestly, going to mention our own. I simply forgot
to put it in the note.(honest Guv!)
Stretch.
|
33.2472 | Dirty blighters.... | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | Find a happy place...!! | Tue Feb 13 1996 16:01 | 19 |
| Taken from IRN
UEFA have ordered Leeds United to upgrade their dressing rooms for
Euro 96.
Rebuilding work costing #500,000 is to be spent on upgrading Elland
Road's facilities.
Portable dressing rooms will be used until the end of the season.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
It's going to be a tad chilly in those Changing rooms !! The wind has
been known to howl up there !!!
Ian.
|
33.2473 | Obvious sheep jibe! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Tue Feb 13 1996 17:06 | 5 |
| Ian,
You mean their dipping facilities are not Euro-legitimate?<--is that a
word? It is now!
Stretch.
|
33.2474 | Cup wins continue | GIDDAY::PARSONS | POLYCENTER on WNT Support | Thu Feb 15 1996 06:15 | 11 |
|
F.A. Cup 4th Round
Bolton Wanderers (0) 0 Leeds United (1) 1
Wallace
Another away cup win and to make it even better it's Port Vale
at home in the next round. Looks like it's Villa in League Cup
Final if we get past Birmingham.
|
33.2475 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot! | Thu Feb 15 1996 13:01 | 14 |
| Reasonable display last night... Gromit getting the only goal of the
match after 58 seconds....
>it's Port Vale at home in the next round.
Yep.. but they've just knocked out Everton... they were all over
them.. they should have won by more...
I'll reserve my judgement on this game... I think we should win 2-1
in the end...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2476 | Feelings... | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Feb 15 1996 17:09 | 16 |
| It's better to be lucky than good...
Leeds new motto, perchance?
Another adequate victory, if reports are anything to go by. I'll take
it either way!
Nice to see Rodney score again after a long absence from the score
sheet and most importantly of all a clean sheet to bolster the
defence.
I feel a cup in my waters ;-).
What's the odds a cup double now I wonder?
James.
|
33.2477 | Liverpool in next round == no problem! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Feb 19 1996 15:07 | 10 |
| Looks like we are in for a semi-final game against what the
newspapers think is the only "United" left in the FA Cup, if
the Irish Independent are to be believed (which usually they
aren't):
United move closer to Twin Towers date (or summat like that).
Another media conspiracy - of course!
James.
|
33.2478 | Planned semi-finals | GIDDAY::PARSONS | POLYCENTER on WNT Support | Tue Feb 20 1996 02:07 | 7 |
|
Well we know the semi-final draw already.
Leeds or Liverpool vs Aston Villa
Grimsby or Huddersfield vs Man Utd
This will be reviewed if Charlton or Port Vale make it to the semi
|
33.2479 | Game On or Off?? | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Wed Feb 21 1996 17:21 | 3 |
| Anyone know if the game is still on tonight?
Shafiq.
|
33.2480 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Thu Feb 22 1996 15:15 | 23 |
| Looks like Leeds were crap last night - really crap.
Brolin wasn't playing - whether he was injured or not
is not certain.
Macca and Yeboah were marked out of the game and the
rest of the Leeds team didn't have enough skill to make
up the defecit. Port Vale were well worth the draw and
were very unlucky not to progress first time themselves
:-(.
It's going to be very difficult at their patch next week,
or whenever the replay is.
Another big game on Sunday. Leeds may just limp over
the line to a Wembley date but christ we have our work
cut out to beat Villa...
Wilko is playing his last few hands. His bluff is about
to be called and it's likely that he will have nothing to
show.
James.
|
33.2481 | Table quiz in Galway! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Feb 23 1996 12:42 | 15 |
33.2482 | From IRN - Proof that Sheep have no brains | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Mon Feb 26 1996 19:55 | 9 |
| Football fan Neil Batley's struck a unique double bet with William
Hill....that his wife will give birth on the day Leeds win this
season's FA Cup final.
If his double comes off the Buckinghamshire punter will collect
winnings of #330 after staking #5 at odds of 66-1.
The final's played on May 11, the day before Batley's wife is due to
give birth.
|
33.2483 | Rick, you are too quiet at the moment!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Feb 26 1996 20:13 | 4 |
| I take it that induction of said "lamb" is a no-no?
Stretch.
|
33.2484 | 6TH TD DRAW | ESSB::TJORDAN | Stan The Man | Tue Feb 27 1996 14:48 | 8 |
| Hello Folks,
Has anybody got the FA CUP 6TH rd draw if so could they please
send it on.
Thanks,
Tony.
|
33.2485 | The 6th Round Ties | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Tue Feb 27 1996 16:11 | 12 |
33.2486 | eh? | CHEFS::CROSSA | And I wanna get ...... | Tue Feb 27 1996 17:17 | 7 |
| Rick/James/anyone,
Whilst watching the Leeds v Birmingham "highlights" on Sunday a
comment was passed by the commentator. Something along the lines
of...."this will be Leeds first visit to Wembley for 23 years" is this
true? If it is then you are worse than City for domestic silverware!
Stretch.
|
33.2487 | Not one to stick up for the sheep but ..... | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Tue Feb 27 1996 17:27 | 4 |
| >If it is then you are worse than City for domestic silverware!
I take it you're not counting the League Championship in '92 then ?
|
33.2488 | Of all the people it had to be you! | CHEFS::CROSSA | And I wanna get ...... | Tue Feb 27 1996 17:55 | 6 |
| Mr Edwards,
Stratto is absent so you "gambol" to the Leeds defence! What I think
they meant (the commentators) is that Leeds have not won a "cup"
proper. You know what I mean you ........etc.......etc......!!!
Stretch.
|
33.2489 | | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Tue Feb 27 1996 18:07 | 8 |
| Stretch,
Leeds played at Wembley in the Charity Shield four years ago against
Liverpool and won 4-3!.
So Leeds have been to Wembley in recent times..
Shafiq.
|
33.2490 | Being a pedant. | CHEFS::CROSSA | And I wanna get ...... | Tue Feb 27 1996 19:44 | 6 |
| Shafiq,
>> Leeds have not won a "cup" proper.
------ <---- important word! "Doing a lot
of work for charidee mate"is not the same.
Stretch.
|
33.2491 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Wed Feb 28 1996 12:08 | 7 |
| Stretch,
Showing your in-depth knowledge of teams that you "support" yet again,
eh? Mind you, given the number of teams you "support" it's hardly
surprising that you can't remember their domestic honours.
Stuart
|
33.2492 | You moody Sheep defender! | CHEFS::CROSSA | And I wanna get ...... | Wed Feb 28 1996 12:49 | 1 |
| Was the gig that bad?
|
33.2493 | Yes | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Wed Feb 28 1996 13:02 | 1 |
|
|
33.2494 | | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Wed Feb 28 1996 13:46 | 11 |
| Port Vale 1 Leeds 2
Naylor Macca 2
Well, we played crap in the first half and deserved to be behind. In
the second half we showed a bit more imagination and desire and that
man McCalister came through with two excellent goals.
Shafiq
|
33.2495 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | And I wanna get ...... | Wed Feb 28 1996 16:18 | 11 |
| Shafiq,
Hell of a free kick by Gary Mac. Quite amusing after when he was being
interviewed and said "I am not going to say we deserved to win". They
did finish well on the night though. Brolin put a good cross in for the
first goal. Liked Lukics leg positioning on the first goal, brilliant
nutmeg!
Stretch
P.S James - What will the Elland Road faithful be saying if Wilko gets
you to Wembley TWICE?
|
33.2496 | Comments on Sunday | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Mar 01 1996 13:42 | 17 |
| Written on Tuesday
------------------
Come of fellow Leeds fans, I thought this topic would be alive with
excitement, comment and mirth at the fact that we've reached our first
Wembley final in 23 years. I'm certainly full of all three - some
people might ask: when am I not. However, in this case I can say that
I'm looking forward immensely to our first Wembley final in a
generation. I was but a sapling of 4.5 years when we last reached a
final - that infamous Sunderland game in 1973. The less said about
that debacle here the better. We'll make up for that one, this time
around, especially noting the fact that the seven times I've seen
Leeds live, we've won each time.
Get those beers ready Rick :-).
James.
|
33.2497 | Comments about Tuesday | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Mar 01 1996 14:12 | 52 |
| Christ, were we lucky at Vale on Tuesday night, or what! We played so
poorly that I could hardly believe my eyes. The few positive things
to come out of the night were:
1. Macca's two incredible goals. The first was an ace header from an
ace cross by Brolin. The second was a superb free kick that Macca
knew exactly what he wanted to do with.
2. Brolin getting more than 5 minutes on the pitch. I am at a
complete loss how our great manager could select Masinga ahead of a
proven world class player - even if Brolin isn't 100% yet. Brolin's a
lot better than either Masinga or Wallace, or both put together.
3. We won even though we were crap. Thankfully Vale were even worse.
The win sets up a dinger of a match versus the Red Scouse. I've
already put my pride at stake by betting with a scouse fan (who shall
remain nameless) that he would have to wear a Leeds shirt for a day if
we win and I would have to wear a scouse jersey if the reds win. It's
a matter of life and death that Leeds do the business...
4. We must have paid off the referee, or else he has "I LOVE LUFC"
tattooed on his arse as I cannot understand how he didn't give at
least one of the two obvious penalties that Vale deserved during the
course of the match. The first was when Worthington blatantly pushed
the winger off the ball during the first half. The second - and more
dodgy - was the Wetherall juggling incident during the second half.
5. This win keeps up my incredible record of seeing Leeds win each
time I've seen then live on the box this season. The next match will
be my 10th time (win) this season ;-).
If we don't win something this year, we never will. Hopefully we
haven't exhausted our large reservoir of luck - all we need is to win
four more games for the double. Leeds are being offered at 25/1 for
the double FWIW.
The next problem is where to get a ticket for the CCC final. Any
ideas from other more experienced noters would be greatly appreciated.
I've read a lot from the leeds United mailing list about the need for
membership cards when applying for tickets. Is this true? How does
this work when you get tickets through a foreign supporters' club?
What's the odds of scalping on the day? Any advice would be *really*
appreciated.
Stretch, The mailing list is split very evenly into two camps: Wilko
in and Wilko out at the moment. If Wilko doesn't being home the bacon
from one of the cups, his tenure at Leeds may not extend until next
season!
Time to go back to work,
James.
|
33.2498 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Mee Mee Mee Mee..... | Mon Mar 04 1996 12:55 | 7 |
| Wembley.. Wembley...
We're the GREAT LEEDS UNITED & we're off to Wembley....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2499 | Groan | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Mon Mar 04 1996 13:21 | 3 |
| re:-1
Welcome back Rick.
|
33.2500 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Mee Mee Mee Mee..... | Mon Mar 04 1996 13:30 | 5 |
| Thank you Dave.....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2501 | BOLTON BOLTON BOLTON BOLTON BOLTON BOLTON etc etc | CHEFS::CROSSA | And I wanna get ...... | Mon Mar 04 1996 14:15 | 1 |
| BOLTON!!!
|
33.2502 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Mee Mee Mee Mee..... | Mon Mar 04 1996 14:18 | 6 |
| Now I'd never thought I'd hear you cheering for Bolton, Stretch....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2503 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Mon Mar 04 1996 14:33 | 3 |
| Why not, he supports every other team in the land.
Stuart
|
33.2504 | Only on SPECIAL occasions!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Mar 04 1996 14:34 | 7 |
| I think you understand, Rick. Anyway I had my laugh at their expense
last Sunday!
Stretch.
P.S Now answer some of the questions we have placed in your absence. Your
witty repartee has been missed!
|
33.2505 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Mon Mar 04 1996 14:37 | 3 |
| And Stuart. It would be a cold day in Hell before I pledged my
allegience to that team that inspires awe across the planet....The
Arse!!!
|
33.2506 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Mee Mee Mee Mee..... | Mon Mar 04 1996 14:40 | 7 |
| Hi Stratto...
What a shame we won't be beeting Arsenal in the final.. :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2507 | | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Wed Mar 06 1996 15:41 | 14 |
33.2508 | Ho Ho | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Mar 06 1996 15:51 | 5 |
| Shafiq,
Having not seen the board on the pitch I might have to query that
point!
Stretch.
|
33.2509 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Mee Mee Mee Mee..... | Thu Mar 07 1996 11:13 | 17 |
| QPR 1 - Leeds 2
Yeboah 2
Well another fine victory.. ( not... )
We were lucky to get away with this one... but we got the 3 points and
so that should make us safe from relegation.... now we have the easy
task of knocking Liverpool out of the F.A. Cup on Sunday... :->
I bet Bill Layne is going to be very quiet today... :->>>>>>
Cheers,
Rick.,
|
33.2510 | Not here really! | IOSG::LAYNE | | Thu Mar 07 1996 12:24 | 7 |
| Bill Layne is too busy worruing about the Cricket World cup.
William Layne
P.S. We wus robbed!!
|
33.2511 | | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | You ain't seen me, roight? | Thu Mar 07 1996 13:49 | 8 |
|
Bill, there's no need to worry about the cricket - West Indies have got
no chance!
Jeff
|
33.2512 | Weetabix and prayers | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri Mar 08 1996 19:54 | 14 |
| It's going to be tough on Sunday against the Red Scouse.
I hope for the best, but expect the worst, given our
relative league form. We have beaten Liverpool at home
this season and we seem to be having the bit of luck
needed in the cup competitions, upto now that is. The
only hope Leeds have is that I am watching the game live
on TV :-). I'm 9 for 9 when seeing Leeds live from my
armchair this season.
Brolin and Yeboah have better had their Weetabix on
Sunday morning and Beesley and Worthington have been
had said their prayers!
James.
|
33.2513 | Thanks then. | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | You ain't seen me, roight? | Mon Mar 11 1996 11:03 | 10 |
|
Well, congratulations to Leeds for the being the first team ever to
play for penaltys from the first minute of the first game in an FA cup
tie. What a lot of firsts that is..
And to think I came back from the pub to watch that.
Jeff
|
33.2514 | pERCHANCE TO DREAM | CHEFS::WRAITHC | | Mon Mar 11 1996 12:24 | 8 |
| re last:
agreed, Leeds have pertfected the "away team" tactics and are now
playing them at home fixtures - a mega step forward for the game, I
think.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....
|
33.2515 | | CHEFS::COOPERT1 | A Deity in Dreadlocks | Mon Mar 11 1996 13:59 | 4 |
| That was probably the most boring game I've ever seen.
CHARLEY
|
33.2516 | Even Jimmy Hill was brighter than the game | CHEFS::BUSSONG | | Mon Mar 11 1996 14:04 | 5 |
| It could have been worse though. Imagine if they'd been playing the
Arse, the only team that could get away with playing Martin Keown in
midfield!
Graham
|
33.2517 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Mar 19 1996 20:02 | 7 |
| Maybe it's a case of deja vu but I thought I put a note in here
on Friday. It isn't here anymore in any case. Call in Mulder
and Sculley!
3 days 'til I'm off to London, and counting :-).
James (in possession of a CCC final ticket).
|
33.2518 | | RDGENG::IOSG::CHEWTERJ | Hey Bert, got a light ? | Thu Mar 21 1996 11:28 | 3 |
|
Well lets hope that you get a good game to watch... I wonder whether
Leeds will play for the penalty shootout in this competition as well !
|
33.2519 | Mr Angry. | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | You ain't seen me, roight? | Thu Mar 21 1996 11:32 | 15 |
|
Leeds big mistake last night was in not playing Brian Deane on the
wing. Don't you agree, Rick?
Incidentally, did anyone else in the UK watch the Juventus vs Real
Madrid game, with the intention of watching the FA cup highlights
later? If so, you will have noticed that ITV ensured that you couldn't
do the latter without knowing the result - a more petty-minded,
pathetic, childish action, it's hard to imagine. Does anyone know the
address of this bunch of bumholes because I fully intend to give them a
piece of my mind (and, as you know, I haven't got that much to spare)?
Jeff
|
33.2520 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Lovely Day for a Guinness | Thu Mar 21 1996 12:43 | 7 |
| .2519 re ITV spoilsports
well said that man. Sportsnight was ruined for me by these plonkers. I
have BBC's `Points of View' email address around somewhere. Do ITV have
a similar programme?...
Mr. O'Angry
|
33.2521 | Where are you Rick????? | CHEFS::CROSSA | Alias Fabio | Thu Mar 21 1996 13:32 | 13 |
| >> a more petty-minded,
pathetic, childish action, it's hard to imagine.
o.k try this for size! "ner.. ner... ner.. Leeds are Sh*t. Liverpool kicked
your Sheepy a*ses! ner ... ner ....ner....".etc etc Purile enough???
Ref Addresses - The Radio Times has phone #'s etc for all channels. I
will try and remeber to have a look for you (unless anyone buys a copy
of the RT today)
Stretch.
|
33.2522 | | RDGENG::IOSG::CHEWTERJ | Hey Bert, got a light ? | Mon Mar 25 1996 11:13 | 2 |
|
Morning Rick, Good weekend ???
|
33.2523 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm just OUTATIME..... | Mon Mar 25 1996 12:12 | 7 |
| Nope....
We were rubbish.... a real let down.....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2524 | Now you didn't boo that nice Mr Wilkinson, did you Rick? | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Mon Mar 25 1996 12:18 | 7 |
33.2525 | | CHEFS::COOPERT1 | Five Nations Champions | Mon Mar 25 1996 12:26 | 5 |
| HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
CHARLEY
|
33.2526 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Lovely Day for a Guinness | Mon Mar 25 1996 12:35 | 10 |
| Leeds were rubbish. Wilkinson is tactically naive, how anyone can push
his claims for the England manager's job is beyond me. Mc Grath &
Ehiogu had Yeboah & Deane in their pocket all afternoon and the Leeds
central defenders were just too bad to be true....
there was also a world-first yesterday as well..the ITV commentator
Brian Moore actually told a joke. He called Milosevic
`Missalotevic'....
Ray....
|
33.2527 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Mon Mar 25 1996 12:38 | 4 |
| >Wilkinson is tactically naive, how anyone can push his claims for the
>England manager's job is beyond me
Seems to have the perfect qualifications...
|
33.2528 | 3 - 0, 3 - 0, 3 - 0, 3 - 0 etc etc | CHEFS::CROSSA | What a splendid weekend! | Mon Mar 25 1996 13:13 | 9 |
| Ho Ho Ho - GGGGOOOOOOOOODDDDDD Mornin' Rick!!!!!
Villa did not look as though they even needed to break into a sweat! A
bit of a let down gamewise BUT it is the result that counts at the
moment!!!!
Stretch.
|
33.2529 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Mon Mar 25 1996 13:24 | 6 |
| Stretch,
Why are you so chuffed. Or are Villa (another) one of your multitude of
teams that you've supported since childhood.
Stuart
|
33.2530 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm just OUTATIME..... | Mon Mar 25 1996 13:30 | 5 |
| Well lets hope Reading get relegated.....
Cheers,
Mr. Cheerful.
|
33.2531 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Mon Mar 25 1996 13:37 | 5 |
| So then Rick,
Is Barmy Wilko on his way out?
Stuart
|
33.2532 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm just OUTATIME..... | Mon Mar 25 1996 13:39 | 5 |
| I certainly hope so... and GG should be on his way in...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2533 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Mon Mar 25 1996 13:50 | 5 |
| >and GG should be on his way in...
So Brolin'll be at centre back next year.
Stuart
|
33.2534 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm just OUTATIME..... | Mon Mar 25 1996 13:59 | 11 |
33.2535 | SuperStratto? Super bloody obvious more like! | CHEFS::CROSSA | What a splendid weekend! | Mon Mar 25 1996 14:01 | 6 |
| Shut up Stratto! If anyone around here should be questioned about
allegiences it is YOU. Bloody Sheep in Arse clothing! AND you seem to
be taking a lot more interest in Reading than a gloater should !!!
Defender of injustices? Defender of all things sheepy more like!
Stretch.
|
33.2536 | How long 'til Brolin IS fit them? | CHEFS::CROSSA | What a splendid weekend! | Mon Mar 25 1996 14:04 | 6 |
| Rick,
About Yeboah. I thought he was saying he would be at Elland Road for
the next two years and then he will retire. If he wants out I am sure
Mr Edwards (Martin) could stump up the cash.
Stretch.
|
33.2537 | Sleep Depravation is not a good idea. | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Mon Mar 25 1996 14:06 | 12 |
| >If anyone around here should be questioned about allegiences it is YOU.
Why?
>AND you seem to be taking a lot more interest in Reading than a
>gloater should !!!
Actually, I find it highly amusing that Reading are heading into the
second. Means there will be less knobheads parking outside my house
next year.
Stuart
|
33.2538 | BAA | CHEFS::BUSSONG | | Mon Mar 25 1996 14:28 | 5 |
| Did someone mention sheep?
Stretch, you seem a bit touchy about something?
Graham
|
33.2539 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Mon Mar 25 1996 14:44 | 5 |
| Graham,
I think it's 'cos most of us had a top weekend and Stretch didn't.
Stuart
|
33.2540 | Now BAAAAAAAAAGER off !!!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | What a splendid weekend! | Mon Mar 25 1996 15:14 | 8 |
| Stratto,
Check the p_name, Muncehead!!!
Graham,
Who is top of the second div at the moment?
Stretch.
|
33.2541 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Mon Mar 25 1996 15:20 | 11 |
| >Check the p_name, Muncehead!!!
So why have you had a good weekend? Can't have been the football...
>Who is top of the second div at the moment?
Where would you rather be Hippy? In a relegation dogfight that the Gods
have pre-ordained will be lost with a home defeat against Wolves or,
second with 2 games in hand and looking good for a championship?
Stuart$Defender_of_injustices_etc._etc.
|
33.2542 | C'mon then Stratto! Defend your flock! | CHEFS::CROSSA | What a splendid weekend! | Tue Apr 02 1996 15:44 | 6 |
| Rick,
So Brolin has said he is offski! How much for 16 (not even full)
appearences? eh? EH!?!?!
Stretch.
|
33.2543 | Brolin back to Sweden | ZUR01::ASH | Grahame Ash @RLE | Tue Apr 02 1996 16:08 | 4 |
| Read this morning that Brolin's already gone - to Norkoping (approx, sorry!)
on loan for the rest of the season.
g
|
33.2544 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm just OUTATIME..... | Tue Apr 02 1996 16:11 | 13 |
| >Read this morning that Brolin's already gone - to Norkoping (approx,
>sorry!)
Well on Radio 5 it said that it was supposed to have been an April
Fools joke... dreamt up by Brolin & Swedish TV... so we'll see if he's
actually gone to Sweden..
I hope not...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2545 | hhmmmmmmmmmmmm????? | CHEFS::CROSSA | What a splendid weekend! | Tue Apr 02 1996 16:37 | 7 |
| >> an April
Fools joke... dreamt up by Brolin & Swedish TV..
Not really a very funny one for all parties concerned given the situation
at Elland Road at present!
Stretch.
|
33.2546 | Watch out, watch out there's a Welshman about... | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Tue Apr 02 1996 16:55 | 7 |
| >C'mon then Stratto! Defend your flock!
Tafio,
You are the *last* person who should be making that sort of comment.
Stuart
|
33.2547 | ? | CHEFS::CROSSA | Tree, Tree, Tree Hugger! | Tue Apr 02 1996 16:58 | 1 |
| There are reasons for making it *that* easy for you!
|
33.2548 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm just OUTATIME..... | Tue Apr 02 1996 17:14 | 13 |
| > Not really a very funny one for all parties concerned given the
> situation
I bet Howard had a good chuckle at that one....
NOT!!!!
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2549 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Tue Apr 02 1996 17:33 | 4 |
| Thanks for the introductory lesson in Welsh, Tafio. From now on, I must
remember that in Wales, "tree" means sheep and "hugger" means shagger.
Stuart
|
33.2550 | | VYGER::GAWW | | Thu Apr 11 1996 13:21 | 4 |
| I think Brolin is a great player and to spend 4m on him and then play
that well known duffer Deane instead is unbelievable! Sack the manager
before it is too late.
|
33.2551 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm just OUTATIME..... | Thu Apr 11 1996 14:00 | 8 |
| Well according to the papers.. Wilko is on his way out.. esp. after the
"retirement" of Lesley Silver due to bad health.
And GG is going to be the next manager... :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2552 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Thu Apr 11 1996 14:05 | 8 |
| Rick,
>And GG is going to be the next manager...
Apparently, Mr Graham is taking Spanish lessons and is widely tipped to
be the next manager of Real Madrid.
Stuart
|
33.2553 | | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Thu Apr 11 1996 16:20 | 10 |
| RE: Last couple
Silver will also be selling his shares - 33% - in the near future.
Hopefully, he will sell them to a Sheik who wants to invest millions
into Leeds United Football Club !!!!!!
Shafiq.
|
33.2554 | Wrong Species ?? | CHEFS::WRAITHC | | Thu Apr 11 1996 16:56 | 4 |
| Sheiks normally fancy camels and goats rather than sheep.
Ma'a Salaamah
|
33.2555 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Groovy, Laidback & Nasty | Thu Apr 11 1996 17:45 | 3 |
| >Sheiks normally fancy camels and goats rather than sheep.
Well, Brian Deane's future would be secure then!
|
33.2556 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Tue Apr 30 1996 15:32 | 8 |
| At least we didn't bend over and let them score 5 against us
last evening. Thanks Forest - I hope you can return the favour
to Newcastle come Thursday. And before I go: fair play to
Keegan telling Fungus where to get off. If anyone spoke
about MUFC's players like Fungus did about Leeds' there would
probably have been holy murder.
James.
|
33.2557 | eh? | CHEFS::CROSSA | May your chickens grow lips!!! | Tue Apr 30 1996 16:21 | 20 |
| James,
And quite right too! I liked the way he hid his barbs amongst words of
praise for your mob! A nice balanced view.
re: Crushed by the Toon army - I think not! As Rick said, the post
saved you twice, Redebe had three shots in 8 minutes, two on target.
Deane pulled a fine save out of Shaka. And I think Newcastles goal came
against the flow of play. After they did get the goal they took control
of the game.
1 - 0 was a little dull as results go (and N'castle need the goals) and
I was expecting a little bit of a goal fest.
Stretch.
P.S I would like to see anyone say to S.Pearce or S.Stone's face that they
rolled over on Sunday! I think they will be looking to spare some
blushes on Thursday (Frank Clark as Pres regardless!) so beware
Newcastle.
|
33.2558 | Utd sneak it by one point ! | IB002::BREADIE | | Tue Apr 30 1996 18:47 | 21 |
| I don't think anyone, even Utd supporters, would begrudge Newcastle the
little bit of luck they had last night. they could have been 2 down
after 15 minutes, but they were due a break.
I can't believe how niave keegan is falling for Fergusson's wind up !
Of course he will do anything he can to "stimulate" Forrest for
Thursday - he would be daft not to !
The difference in winning the league may well be down to Fergusson's
(belated) decision to drop Cole while keegan persists with Asprillo.
Asprillo is clearly not a happy chappy and neither are his mates. The
next time Ferdinand passes to him will be the first.
Anyway looking forward to two cracking games on sunday. Utd have twice
failed on the last day of the season, so 3 points at Boro is far from
guarenteed whilst Newcastle should beat Spurs. Down to the wire as they
say !
Sorry for poluting this note by talking about championship potential
teams.
|
33.2559 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm in a Champagne SuperNova.... | Wed May 01 1996 21:29 | 17 |
| From the internet mail :
>A mate of mine who lives in london but follows Leeds FAXed me with the
>following rumour this morning (source unattributed): Wilko & Fergie are
>lining up a close season deal involving Wetherall and 3 million
>smackers heading west, and Andy Cole donning the new Packard bell shirt
>in August!
>
>Rob Heath
>Caracas Whites.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2560 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | May your chickens grow lips!!! | Wed May 01 1996 21:45 | 10 |
| Rick,
- 1
Hhmmmmmmmmmmm
BTW small Leeds related thing. Apparently MTV has banned the current
Manic Street Preachers video because it has footage of Leeds fans
rioting!
Stretch.
|
33.2561 | must be true | FORTY2::JONES | Neil | Thu May 02 1996 12:40 | 8 |
|
re: Andy "good running off the ball" Cole
Sounds like a reasonable rumour because its not a straight cash deal
for Andy Cole. Man Utd PLC can shuffle the figures so it doesn't look
so bad in the accounts.
Neil
|
33.2562 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm in a Champagne SuperNova.... | Thu May 02 1996 12:43 | 7 |
| >Leeds fans rioting!
You sure it wasn't Brighton fans.....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2563 | What about your lot coming back from Bournemouth 2 years ago? | CHEFS::CROSSA | May your chickens grow lips!!! | Thu May 02 1996 13:58 | 6 |
| The single was released before the Goldstone "celebrations" the other
week. I have seen the vid but cannot remember seeing the footage of
this. Oh well.....
Stretch.
|
33.2564 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm in a Champagne SuperNova.... | Thu May 02 1996 15:32 | 9 |
| >from Bournemouth 2 years ago?
We weren't at Bournemouth 2 years ago... if you meant in 1989/1990..
then things did get a little out of hand.. but the police went over the
top as per usual....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2565 | Smashing B'mouth/Winchester/any other stop on the way back!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | May your chickens grow lips!!! | Thu May 02 1996 16:16 | 7 |
| >>then things did get a little out of hand.. but the police went over
>>the top as per usual....
Hey, nice unbiased view, Rick!
Stretch.
|
33.2566 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | I'm in a Champagne SuperNova.... | Thu May 02 1996 16:31 | 8 |
| >Hey, nice unbiased view, Rick!
Thanks Stretch.. I always try to keep a balanced view of the football
world....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2567 | Interesting! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Fri May 03 1996 18:04 | 60 |
| Taken from the ET!
Ferguson should keep his tongue in his pocket.
James.
++
Ferguson must apologise
By Robert Philip
ALEX Ferguson, I would submit, has some profound apologies to make.
Kevin Keegan's uncharacteristic verbal assault on his managerial rival
in the aftermath of Newcastle's victory over Leeds on Monday night was
justified.
Steadfastly reluctant to criticise his own players in public -
Cantona's madness, Keane's bullying, Cole's ineptitude come instantly
to mind - Ferguson had the audacity to humiliate those outside his
employ by describing Leeds as "pathetic" and accusing some team
members of cheating manager Howard Wilkinson with their performances
before their admirable display at Old Trafford a fortnight ago.
Would Leeds, Ferguson wondered aloud, give the same against Keegan's
team at Elland Road? The answer was an emphatic 'yes'.
Ferguson also took it upon himself to voice unease over the
forthcoming testimonial game for Nottingham Forest and England
full-back Stuart Pearce in which Newcastle have agreed to provide the
opposition.
Suddenly a nasty little rumour was doing the rounds suggesting that
for the benefit of Pearce's testimonial fund, Forest, who met
Newcastle last night in the League, would prefer to greet Keegan's
side as champions rather than runners-up.
"Things which have been said over the past few days are almost
slanderous," countered Keegan, allowing his anger free rein. "He's
gone down a lot in my estimation."
It is not the first time the Old Trafford manager has displayed
alarming signs of rampant paranoia. When a completely unexpected
defeat at West Ham cost Manchester United the title four seasons ago
(allowing Ferguson's accursed Leeds to win the championship), he was
at his whingeing worst.
"Even their own manager was at a loss for words to explain their
outstanding performance," wrote Ferguson in his book Six Years At
United. "He apologised to me after the game. He was embarrassed his
team had played like dervishes after being relegated. There is a
certain envy for Manchester United which surfaced at the wrong time
for us . . ."
Ferguson's most recent unsolicited remarks remind me of the occasion
Kenny Dalglish, overhearing his fellow-Scot being interviewed
following a particularly acrimonious Liverpool-United game at Anfield,
advised the reporter: "You might as well talk to my wean [baby
daughter]. You'll get more sense out of her."
|
33.2568 | I think he has chosen quotes very selectively there. | CHEFS::CROSSA | May your chickens grow lips!!! | Fri May 03 1996 18:21 | 14 |
| James,
And the man gets paid how much for his writing 'skills'?
BUT
I do agree (Christ, twice in one day!) that the word Cheat, or
variations of, was ill used, but it is all part of the 'Beautiful game'
now. Psychological advantages count as much as the goals at this stage
of the run in, especially when it is this close. KK blew it big time. I
can understand his rage, but the time to vent his spleen was when the
season ended.
Stretch.
|
33.2569 | A short defense of Mr. Ferguson. | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | | Fri May 03 1996 18:49 | 32 |
| Really James,
It is naive of you to even suggest that Ferguson's comments
were anything short of the truth.
All one has to do is read this notes file on a daily basis to
understand that the only people who would be happy to see United
win the League are United fans.
It would therefore not be unfeasible to suggest that the majority
of English players view the situation in much the same way !
After all, Blackburn are the reigning champions, yet the kudos bestowed
upon the victors pales in comparison to beatification of every player involved
in giving Man U a thrashing.
Is it not fair to point out the SAD fact that a team of expensive professionals
lift their game ( above the mundane norm )when the motivation is victory
over the almighty red-devils.
Is only giving of your best when it suits you not cheating both your fans
and manager ? Are these players not paid to give their all, week in
week out, regardless of the opposition ?
Is there less motivation to chase a win when you're tired after a long season ,
maybe one-nil down and you know that the only consequence of losing is that
the opposition are going to get the upper hand over your arch enemy ?
If players are dishonest enough to lift their game ,could they by the same logic,
not be dishonest enough( maybe subconsciously ) to be ambivalent about their game ?
I remember Kevin Keegan ,in an interview last season, commenting on how he wanted
Newcastle to be as "hated" as Man.U in the 90's and Liverpool of the 70's and 80's.
Why ? Because it means you've been successful and other teams are jealous.
Wake up and smell the coffee Mr. Keegan. It's tough being the best !
Peter( An Impartial Celt)
|
33.2570 | | CHEFS::COOPERT1 | So many students..so few bullets | Fri May 03 1996 18:49 | 11 |
| >It is not the first time the Old Trafford manager has displayed
>alarming signs of rampant paranoia. When a completely unexpected
>defeat at West Ham cost Manchester United the title four seasons ago
>etc.
I don't actually think it's paranoia, I think it's more like calculated
mind games that have driven K.K. into a corner with a bucket over his
head saying "wibble".
CHARLEY
|
33.2571 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | The sun's goin' shine on everything you do.. | Fri May 10 1996 13:20 | 13 |
|
Well it looks like we are going to have Richard Thompson, the ex-QPR
chairman, take over at Leeds in the near future after he resigned from
QPR & placed the club on the market....
Going on his track record at QPR, things don't look too hopeful...
Lets hope he's going to put a lot of money in.... but I doubt it.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2572 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Lovely Day for a Guinness | Fri May 10 1996 13:23 | 7 |
| Rick,
You're quite welcome to him....good riddance!...of course you realise
now that this will mean Endsleigh football for Leeds in the
not-too-distant future, don't you?...
Ray....
|
33.2573 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | The sun's goin' shine on everything you do.. | Fri May 10 1996 13:34 | 13 |
33.2574 | Get ye down with the Bolton !!!!! | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | I've been seen with FABIO !!! | Fri May 10 1996 14:42 | 7 |
| Rick,
You're playing Endsleigh football already..........you're just in
the wrong league at the moment !!!
Words of Wisdom.
|
33.2575 | very good !!!! | CHEFS::JAMESP | | Fri May 10 1996 15:05 | 2 |
| RE;1
|
33.2576 | S you're getting Rushie then.... | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | I've been seen with FABIO !!! | Mon May 20 1996 16:23 | 12 |
| Hey Rick,
Did you see that thing on George Best last night ?? You would have
seen that the mistake you made in selling Cantona wasn't the first of
it's kind. Apparently the Leeds scout went along to watch a 15 yr old
George Best and left after 15 minutes saying that the kid would never
make a footballer.
Nothing changes, eh !!!
Ian.
|
33.2577 | Beer and Best night.... | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Lovely Day for a Guinness | Mon May 20 1996 17:14 | 5 |
| .2576
Lads, I've recorded the whole show and I plan to watch it tonight, so
don't spoil the ending....
Ray....
|
33.2578 | And then he.......... And she said............. Brilliant! | CHEFS::CROSSA | Make mine a double double!!! | Mon May 20 1996 19:02 | 5 |
| Well I thought the best bit was.............!
Stretch.
|
33.2579 | Is that correct ? | RTOEU::RDELANEY | Heart of gold,nob of butter | Tue May 21 1996 12:47 | 4 |
| CNN reported last night that Ian Rush has gone on a free-transfer to
Leeds......
- Robin
|
33.2580 | Quite correct | CHEFS::BUSSONG | | Tue May 21 1996 12:49 | 3 |
| Yes, he signed a two year contract with Leeds.
Graham
|
33.2581 | dragging the bottom of the barrel | FORTY2::JONES | Neil | Tue May 21 1996 15:05 | 4 |
|
Q. Where can you find the two fastest Welsh sheep?
A. Leeds (speed and rush)
|
33.2582 | | CHEFS::BUSSONG | | Tue May 21 1996 15:21 | 3 |
| That comes in at somewhere between poor and dreadful I'm afraid! ;-}
Graham
|
33.2583 | Out to Grass... | CHEFS::JAMESP | | Tue May 21 1996 16:32 | 6 |
|
I don't understand Leeds signing Rushy, yes he was a great
player in his prime... but now??... and a 2 year contract..
shades of Mr O'Leary one thinks.
Pj
|
33.2584 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | And it's ironic.. don't you think... | Wed Jun 19 1996 15:21 | 8 |
| According to Swedish newspapers today Sampdoria is finalizing
negotiations with Tubbys' agent and Leeds U. officials. It's likely
he'll go there seing they've got a Swedish manager (S-G Eriksson) who's
always liked Brolin.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2585 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Now, the parties over.... and I'm so tired... | Tue Jul 23 1996 15:25 | 6 |
| According to various reports, Gary MacAllister is joining Coventry fro
3 million...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2586 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Tue Jul 23 1996 15:35 | 2 |
| Oooh Rick, typing that in must have hurt. Another piece of wizadry in
the transfer market by the madman eh ?
|
33.2587 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Now, the parties over.... and I'm so tired... | Tue Jul 23 1996 15:38 | 12 |
33.2588 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Now, the parties over.... and I'm so tired... | Tue Jul 23 1996 16:08 | 13 |
| I'd love to know what the fluff is going on at Elland Road... why the
hell they have let Gary go I will never know.... maybe we're lining up
someone else for the midfield.... God only knows....
At this rate we'll be lucky to escape relegation.....
GG in.. HW out....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2589 | That only leaves your new goalie!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | Roadrunner,Roadrunner!Got my radio on! | Wed Aug 07 1996 18:07 | 12 |
| Not good news for you Rick.
Off IRN.......
Leeds are expecting to be without striker Tony Yeboah for the start
of the new Premiership season.
The 30-year-old Ghanaian international broke down in a pre-season
friendly in Germany last week and is to see a top knee specialist
tomorrow.
|
33.2590 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Now, the parties over.... and I'm so tired... | Wed Aug 07 1996 20:00 | 13 |
| Yep... its supposed to be a pretty bad injury which could end his
career...
Well we always have Brian Deane...
Nationwide League here we come....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2591 | | IOSG::STANDAGE | My hovercraft is full of eels | Thu Aug 08 1996 14:16 | 7 |
|
So Rick, do you *really* think the gap between Leeds and MU by the end
of the season will be less than 20 points?
-Kevin.
|
33.2592 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | Roadrunner,Roadrunner!Got my radio on! | Thu Aug 08 1996 14:17 | 6 |
| The other night he said Utd were going to get relegated!!! Strangely no
money was put on that.
Stretch.
|
33.2593 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Now, the parties over.... and I'm so tired... | Thu Aug 08 1996 15:53 | 14 |
| Well there are rumours going around that there is going to be a
transfer deal between Leeds & ManU in the next few days...
It was interesting that Gary Kelly didn't play for Leeds last night..
Maybe there's a connection.... I don't know...
The rumour is that we are going to sign Lee Sharp.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2594 | PS - That's not his name on the front - Sharpe! | CHEFS::CROSSA | Roadrunner,Roadrunner!Got my radio on! | Thu Aug 08 1996 16:07 | 6 |
| Why would Utd want the "Own Goal Kid"? (or "Lowest headerer of the ball on
the face of the planet"!)
Stretch.
|
33.2595 | Not looking too good is it Rick. | CHEFS::CROSSA | Nuns! Reverse! Reverse! | Fri Aug 09 1996 16:29 | 9 |
| Off IRN....
Leeds United striker Tony Yeboah will miss the start of the
Premiership campaign.
Yeboah's facing an exploratory knee operation after struggling in
pre-season.
Leeds won't say how long Yeboah's going to be out for.
|
33.2596 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Leeds United : Virtual F.A. Cup Winners 1997 | Fri Aug 09 1996 16:53 | 9 |
| >Leeds won't say how long Yeboah's going to be out for.
Well the word on the street says that he might be out for 6 months...
So is Mr. Cole still available??
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2597 | You've still got Carlton though!!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | Nuns! Reverse! Reverse! | Fri Aug 09 1996 17:20 | 7 |
33.2598 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Leeds United : Virtual F.A. Cup Winners 1997 | Sun Aug 11 1996 14:23 | 16 |
| Leeds have just signed Lee Sharpe from Man Utd for 4 million quid...
he'll probably play him as a wing back... thought knowing some of the
crazy positions he played players in the past he's probably signed him
as a goalkeeper.
Looks like it could be a good signing by Wilko... it certainly makes a
change from the second class players he's used to signing from the
Sheffield United/Wednesday reserves.
There are also strong rumours that we are going to sign Sinclair from
QPR for 6 million... now he would be a good signing and looks like a
definate replacement for Macca....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2599 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Leeds United : Virtual F.A. Cup Winners 1997 | Mon Aug 12 1996 12:47 | 9 |
|
Rumours on the Leeds list say that David Beckham was also a Leeds with
Lee Sharp to talk about a move. I'd liek to see David Beckham join
Leeds I think he's an excellent player.. definately one for the future.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2600 | ! | CHEFS::CROSSA | Nuns! Reverse! Reverse! | Mon Aug 12 1996 19:25 | 10 |
| Rick,
Can you thank Wilko for covering the cost of buying Poborsky + Cruyff
for the same dosh you paid for Sharpe!
Re: Beckham - I do hope you are wrong on this one.
Stretch.
|
33.2601 | Not as Sharp as he used to be | ESSB::BLONG | A Hat Trick of Premierships 93'94'&96 | Tue Aug 13 1996 16:24 | 7 |
| 4 million for Sharpe is a great deal for United. It covers the cost of Poborsky
and Cryuff who are both current internationals. Sharpe is not the player he was.
Wilko is quoted as saying he has bought him to run at defences, but he hasn't
gone past a defender in about 3 seasons. A great crosser of the ball, but I
believe United are going to come out on top in a transfer with Leeds once again.
|
33.2602 | Fantasy time in the Internet Times | GIDDAY::PARSONS | Sys & Net Mgt on WNT Support | Fri Aug 16 1996 07:48 | 14 |
|
Well Leeds achieved what will probably be their high point of the
season today when the Internet Times placed them 4th in their
prediction for the final league table. Top 3 were Man Utd, Liverpool
and Villa. Newcastle were 5th.
I'd have placed Leeds 10 places lower, and Chelsea who were 11th about
6 places higher.
Still with no McAllister and no Yeboah for now I'm sure Mr Wilkinson
will come up with something ... probably a resignation in mid October
when Leeds drop into the bottom 3.
:-(
|
33.2603 | I hope not..... | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Tue Aug 20 1996 18:07 | 6 |
| Well I've just got my ticket for the Leeds vs ManU game.... I wonder if
it will be 3rd time lucky for ManU at Elland Road.... :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2604 | Not as unhappy as the fans though, eh Rick? | CHEFS::CROSSA | Nuns! Reverse! Reverse! | Wed Aug 21 1996 19:51 | 8 |
| Off IRN.....
Tomas Brolin is set to end his unhappy stay at Leeds by moving on
loan to Swiss club FC Zurich.
The Swedish international has spent nine unhappy months at Elland
Road since his four and a half million Pound move from Parma.
|
33.2605 | | ZUR01::ASHG | Grahame Ash @RLE | Thu Aug 22 1996 15:13 | 4 |
| The paper here said that Brolin never really fitted into with Leeds' kick and
rush style! Maybe that's why McAllister went as well?
grahame
|
33.2606 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Thu Aug 22 1996 20:57 | 8 |
| >Maybe that's why McAllister went as well?
Hmm... well he put up with about 5-6 years of it so I guess he didn't
find it too bad.
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2607 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Tue Aug 27 1996 12:39 | 9 |
| Leeds 1 - Wimbledon 0
Sharpe.
Excellent goal.. crap match... need I say more?
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2608 | What a waste of an hour and a half!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | Nuns! Reverse! Reverse! | Tue Aug 27 1996 16:12 | 10 |
| Well you could try to explain your crowds "supportative" attitude to the
youngsters during the first half! Other than that I agree with you on
your review 100%.
Stretch.
How old is your strike partner team at the moment....about the mid 60's!
|
33.2609 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Thu Sep 05 1996 12:51 | 12 |
| RHI that we are after Paul Mince of Inter....
Things have reached a new low at Elland Road..... though our win last
night was most welcome.... Harte poping up to score in the 39th minutes
from a header.... what an excellent week he's had.. scoring 1 goal &
creating 2 other goals for Ireland.... and then scoring for Leeds.
Leeds are now 6th in the league.. one place above Scumchester...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2610 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Sep 05 1996 13:22 | 7 |
| >Things have reached a new low at Elland Road
?!?! Eh ? You've just had a good away win, your kids are coming
through well and you've been linked with one of the best midfielders in
Europe. You ok this morning Rick ? Perhaps your reply was intended
for this coming Monday after your team is humiliated by the
all-conquering (or should that be all-drawing) Man Utd.
|
33.2611 | Moan.. Moan.. Moan.. Moan.. | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Thu Sep 05 1996 13:24 | 9 |
| >Things have reached a new low at Elland Road
Signing Paul Ince would be another low point....
He was almost as hated as Mark Hughes...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2612 | So much for saying that the CHampions League was top priority... | VARESE::TRNUX1::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Thu Sep 05 1996 13:26 | 9 |
| >Perhaps your reply was intended for this coming Monday after your team is
>humiliated by the all-conquering (or should that be all-drawing) Man Utd.
Whaat? Dave, you're not going to tell me that ManU have a match against
Leeds (x3) 48 hours before taking on Juventus? I'm travelling to the
game with no less than 5 extremely cocky Juventus fans...tell me it's
not true!
Dom
|
33.2613 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Thu Sep 05 1996 13:36 | 7 |
| Yep.. they play Leeds on Saturday.... :->
Another easy win for Leeds.... :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2614 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Thu Sep 05 1996 13:51 | 4 |
| Dom,
I was implying that his note would have been entered on the Monday.
The game is on Saturday. Sorry for the confusion !
|
33.2615 | It's time to go... it's time to go... | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Mon Sep 09 1996 13:17 | 17 |
| Hmm.... what a result.....
Leeds were crap.. Scumchester were quite good but I really don't know
how they will get on in the Champions League.
Our first real shot on goal which made Schmiechel work was in the 89th
minute.... I can't remember a real shot before that...
The best bit of the whole match for the Leeds fans was when Eric missed
his penalty... we were dancing up & down in our seats.. you'd think
we'd just won the European Cup...
I'd give HW another 2-3 matches... and then he's out...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2616 | Wilko.. its time to go... | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Mon Sep 09 1996 13:21 | 9 |
| Dave....
I was picturing you grinning like Tony Blair over the weekend... Hmmm..
exactly like the Tony Blair with daemon eyes they've created in the
Tory adverts...
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2617 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Mon Sep 09 1996 17:10 | 5 |
| Wilko has just been sacked....
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2618 | Just heard on the grapevine | CHEFS::KRISMAN_P | Single tasking - on a good day! | Mon Sep 09 1996 17:10 | 2 |
| I've just heard that Wilkinson has been given the boot - George Graham
to come in !
|
33.2619 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Mon Sep 09 1996 17:11 | 7 |
| Hurray... Hurray....
The crowd is rejoicing... :->>>
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2620 | Outclassed by the champions | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Mon Sep 09 1996 20:01 | 16 |
| > Dave....
>
> I was picturing you grinning like Tony Blair over the weekend... Hmmm..
> exactly like the Tony Blair with daemon eyes they've created in the
> Tory adverts...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rick.
Nice to know you're thinking of me Rick ! Bit of a walkover really
and I think it emphasised the different directions/ambitions of the 2
clubs since the 91/92 season. The only downer is the news that the
result has finally got rid of the Madman - bloody shame if you ask me.
|
33.2621 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Mon Sep 09 1996 21:35 | 15 |
| >has finally got rid of the Madman
Yep... the ManU fans were singing for him to stay..... :->
They we're also singing...
"Wilko.. Wilko... give us a wave... "
Excellent stuff.. :->
I'm not repeating what we were shouting at Poborsky.... & Cantona...
Cheers,
Rick
|
33.2622 | | WSTENG::SYS_132894 | | Tue Sep 10 1996 03:38 | 12 |
|
re .2615
"...when Eric missed his penalty. we were dancing up & down in our
seats..."
I thought the best bit was when Cantona scored, he walked off the pitch
and just stood with his arms out milking it like an arrogant b*****d.
The Leeds fans behind the goal were going ape.
Danny.
|
33.2623 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Tue Sep 10 1996 13:08 | 7 |
| >The Leeds fans behind the goal were going ape.
Yep.. we sure were.... :->>>
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2624 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Tue Sep 10 1996 21:14 | 2 |
| According to IRN, GG is the new leader of the flock.
|
33.2625 | "Man who tends sheep" | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | Do you feel licky, punk? | Tue Sep 10 1996 21:47 | 6 |
|
GG is indeed confirmed as the new shepherd - the old boy network
strikes again.
j.
|
33.2626 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Wed Sep 18 1996 21:04 | 5 |
33.2627 | Coca-Cola Cup scoreline for those who missed it | MOVIES::PLAYFORD | Kevin @ EDO-13 [DTN:824-3394] | Thu Sep 19 1996 19:53 | 4 |
33.2628 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K | Thu Sep 19 1996 20:50 | 3 |
33.2629 | There's only one Carlton Palmer.. (thank God!) | RDGENG::MORRELL | Well its not Carlton Palmer then.... | Mon Sep 23 1996 16:06 | 10 |
33.2630 | Rick is a Red - official ! | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Mon Sep 23 1996 17:46 | 5 |
33.2631 | Or any Leeds player come to think of it.. | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | Do you feel licky, punk? | Mon Sep 23 1996 18:18 | 10 |
33.2632 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Well its not Carlton Palmer then.... | Mon Sep 23 1996 18:35 | 12 |
33.2633 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Mon Sep 23 1996 19:04 | 14 |
33.2634 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Well its not Carlton Palmer then.... | Mon Sep 23 1996 20:13 | 7 |
33.2635 | News for you Yorkshire footy afficionados | ZUR01::ASHG | Grahame Ash @RLE | Thu Oct 03 1996 15:11 | 10 |
33.2636 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Well its not Carlton Palmer then.... | Thu Oct 03 1996 15:33 | 7 |
33.2637 | Not a rolling success so far | ZUR01::ASHG | Grahame Ash @RLE | Thu Oct 03 1996 15:42 | 11 |
33.2638 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Well its not Carlton Palmer then.... | Thu Oct 03 1996 15:47 | 9 |
33.2639 | | ZUR01::ASHG | Grahame Ash @RLE | Thu Oct 03 1996 16:56 | 7 |
33.2640 | Brolin slinks out of Switzerland | ZUR01::ASHG | Grahame Ash @RLE | Fri Oct 11 1996 15:10 | 10 |
33.2641 | Hmmmm | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | | Fri Oct 11 1996 15:32 | 6 |
33.2642 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Well its not Carlton Palmer then.... | Fri Oct 11 1996 15:53 | 8 |
33.2643 | Yawn... | ZUR01::ASHG | Grahame Ash @RLE | Mon Oct 14 1996 15:16 | 6 |
33.2644 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Well its not Carlton Palmer then.... | Mon Oct 14 1996 17:32 | 10 |
33.2645 | It's the relegation dogfight, not Euro-glory | ZUR01::ASHG | Grahame Ash @RLE | Mon Oct 14 1996 17:46 | 10 |
33.2646 | | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Mon Oct 14 1996 20:49 | 7 |
33.2647 | FAREWELL ALL! | XSTACY::JLUNDON | http://xagony.ilo.dec.com/~jlundon :-) | Sat Oct 26 1996 00:34 | 14 |
33.2648 | Rush offski! | CHEFS::CROSSA | Drop The Drunk Donkey | Thu Nov 07 1996 15:02 | 14 |
33.2649 | New recruit? | PCBUOA::akodhcp176-12.ako.dec.com::alderman | PCBUOA::ALDERMAN | Wed Nov 27 1996 00:35 | 36 |
33.2650 | | CHEFS::JAMANIS | | Mon Dec 02 1996 16:13 | 14 |
33.2651 | Memories of Norman Hunter | MILE::JENKINS | | Mon Dec 02 1996 18:57 | 8 |
33.2652 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Surf Dudes with Attitude. | Mon Dec 02 1996 19:07 | 12 |
33.2653 | I only heard who scored the goals... | VARESE::TRNUX1::IDC_BSTR | | Mon Dec 02 1996 19:32 | 3 |
33.2654 | Football - the beautiful game | MILE::JENKINS | | Tue Dec 03 1996 16:08 | 34 |
33.2655 | Chopper Harris v Norman "Bites Yer Legs" Hunter...no holds barred | VARESE::TRNUX1::IDC_BSTR | | Tue Dec 03 1996 16:21 | 16 |
33.2656 | Match Report from The Times | MILE::JENKINS | | Tue Dec 03 1996 17:54 | 118 |
33.2657 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | As Bob is my witless! | Fri Dec 06 1996 17:24 | 9 |
33.2658 | I am *not* making this up! | CHEFS::CROSSA | As Bob is my witless! | Wed Jan 22 1997 19:21 | 10 |
33.2659 | this is getting dangerous... | PATE::POUNDER | | Wed Jan 22 1997 20:49 | 4 |
33.2660 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | As Bob is my witless! | Wed Jan 22 1997 20:50 | 5 |
33.2661 | Fine the naughty chappie!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | As Bob is my witless! | Wed Jan 22 1997 20:56 | 20 |
33.2662 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | | Thu Jan 23 1997 12:07 | 10 |
33.2663 | We are Leeds, we are Leeds, we are Leeds | NETRIX::"jlundon@dsc001.reo.dec.com" | James A. Lundon | Wed Feb 05 1997 12:55 | 9 |
| Just a note to say that I think Leeds' win last night at the Arse is the best
we've had in the cup since we won it in 1972. I can see the twin towers
on the horizon :-). The competition is wide open now. I don't think Chelsea
are going to win it, which opens the way even more for teams like Leeds
and Wimbledon to come though and do it. And to make the night complete,
MUFC losing was just perfect.
James (not quite gone but certainly forgotten?).
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]
|
33.2664 | Sea, sea, seasiders.... | CHEFS::WILLIAMSA | I wanna be Luke | Wed Feb 05 1997 13:23 | 5 |
| Don't buy your ticket for the trip dahn sauf, just yet my northern
fellow. You still have to do dispose of the mighty (hahahahahahaha)
Portsmouth yet...
Alen.
|
33.2665 | "Where were you when you were sh*t?" | CHEFS::CROSSA | It ain't loud enough, punk! | Wed Feb 05 1997 13:43 | 13 |
| James,
"You only note when you're winning!"
Alen,
After watching the spawny toads (X3) get a jammy win over the equally
'mighty' Reading last year, I wouldn't count my chickens!!
Stretch.
|
33.2666 | The FA Cup is ours!!!! | RDGENG::MORRELL | | Wed Feb 05 1997 13:46 | 5 |
| Where is Stuart when you need him!!! :->
Cheers,
Rick.
|
33.2667 | | XSTACY::ulrika.ilo.dec.com::PHAYDEN | NeoMaxiZoonDweebi | Wed Feb 05 1997 14:07 | 4 |
| >
> "You only note when you're winning!"
Which isn't very often thank god !
|
33.2668 | You was whipped! | CHEFS::WILLIAMSA | I wanna be Luke | Wed Feb 05 1997 14:34 | 12 |
| Re .2665
3-0 is not spawny! 1-0 is, or even 2-1, but 3-0 is an emphatic
stuffing!
As for Leeds, well Portsmouth have a reasonably good record of getting
draws away against 'bigger' teams in cup competitons. Only thing is we
normally loose to them when we get them back to Fratton Park!
When is Anthony Yer-bo-ahhhhhhhhh (sp?) likely to be back?
Alen.
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33.2669 | And you was lucky! | CHEFS::CROSSA | It ain't loud enough, punk! | Wed Feb 05 1997 15:12 | 9 |
| Alen,
I was refering to Leeds (X3) as the spawny ones, and there ability to
get 'Jammy' wins.
Stretch.
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33.2670 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | | Wed Feb 05 1997 15:16 | 8 |
| >and there ability to get 'Jammy' wins.
We never get "jammy" wins.... its all done through hard work &
determination.. :->
Cheers,
Rick.
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33.2671 | I see a pattern emerging...... | CHEFS::CROSSA | It ain't loud enough, punk! | Wed Feb 05 1997 15:19 | 7 |
| If proof were needed of your "jamminess" just take a look at the
Leeds old boys club (Coventry) and their result last night!
Stretch.
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33.2672 | Toothless Tiger | CHEFS::16.37.8.20::Mad | This is Mutiny !!, Mr Christian. | Fri Feb 07 1997 16:22 | 22 |
| Hot from IRN
>Tony Yeboah is hopeful of making a first-team comeback in the FA Cup
>against Portsmouth next weekend.
>The Ghanian striker scored for the reserves against Liverpool last
>night.
>Yeboah says he feels fit and intends to play another reserve game
>next Wednesday.
I thought that the manager decided who played ?, And also I didn't think that
GG thought that much of him anyway. Couple of wonder goals doesn't make a
consistent player
8-<
Cheers
Mad
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33.2673 | More...... | CHEFS::16.37.8.20::Mad | This is Mutiny !!, Mr Christian. | Fri Feb 07 1997 16:23 | 9 |
| Also off IRN
Leeds defender Paul Beesley is expected to become Manchester City's
latest signing following a medical at Maine Road.
City boss Frank Clark has agreed a deal with the Yorkshire club for
the 31-year-old centre-half, with the fee yet to be disclosed.
Mad
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33.2674 | We'll take 'em anyways! | CHEFS::WILLIAMSA | I wanna be Luke | Fri Feb 07 1997 16:44 | 5 |
| re .-2
Oh bloody brilliant, why can't he wait another week or three?
Alen.
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33.2675 | You're very quiet today, Rick. | CHEFS::CROSSA | It ain't loud enough, punk! | Mon Feb 17 1997 17:27 | 10 |
| Rick
Well, having the, apparently, injured Bowyer score two goals (one at
about the 96th minute) for you did nothing to prevent a great result
for Pompey. Fair play to them - and it's not often you're going to see
me write that!!
Stretch.
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33.2676 | | REOELF::EDWARDSS | | Mon Feb 17 1997 17:59 | 7 |
| Even my life-long Leeds fan of a father didn't begrudge Pompey this
victory.
Or that was his excuse anyway.
Tony
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33.2677 | Well done Pompey.... | RDGENG::MORRELL | Slip Away.... | Tue Feb 18 1997 13:32 | 11 |
| >Even my life-long Leeds fan of a father didn't begrudge Pompey this
>victory.
Yep... I have to go along with that... Leeds were terrible, the
pitch was more like Fareham beach... and the referee was abysmal....
Good luck to Pompey in the next round...
Cheers,
Rick.
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33.2678 | | REOELF::EDWARDSS | | Tue Feb 18 1997 14:02 | 4 |
| Un-grit your teeth Rick, your jaw will cramp.
Tony
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33.2679 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Slip Away.... | Tue Feb 18 1997 17:51 | 11 |
| >Un-grit your teeth Rick, your jaw will cramp.
Pompey definately deserved to win... when you've got a team of 11
players on the pitch but only 2 ( Martyn and Molenaar ) are actually
playing football then you're never going to win...
I just can't wait to get rid of Carlton Palmer...
Cheers,
Rick
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33.2680 | | REOELF::EDWARDSS | | Tue Feb 18 1997 17:54 | 7 |
| > I just can't wait to get rid of Carlton Palmer...
Take note everyone just in case young Carlton kaks it in mysterious
circumstances.
Tony
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33.2681 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Slip Away.... | Tue Feb 18 1997 18:07 | 8 |
| > young Carlton kaks it in mysterious circumstances.
Well he's doing that by himself.... he's been in trouble with the
police more times than I've had hot dinners over the last few weeks...
Cheers,
Rick.
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33.2682 | Don't do that again.... | CHEFS::JAMESP | | Tue Feb 18 1997 18:54 | 5 |
|
Yep its good to see GG installing the same disipline that was so
apparent during his days at Arsenal.
Pj
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33.2683 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Slip Away.... | Wed Mar 19 1997 13:04 | 12 |
| Anyone want to buy Carlton Palmer..... since he's handed in a transfer
request...
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
Cheers,
Rick.
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33.2684 | go on the rotherham | IRNBRU::GIBBONS | | Wed Mar 19 1997 16:19 | 42 |
| Saw a new advert for cell phones this week.
Lonely man wandering round New York
Talking to wife back home in Leeds.
Please you cant do this to me
No not when I'm so far away
Sorry dear but
Leeds 0 Rotherham 3
Out the cup to Rotherham !
Guess the writer of this advert is neither a Leeds or George Graham fan.
Danny.
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33.2685 | | LINGO::FOWLERM | | Wed Mar 19 1997 17:03 | 6 |
| There's a rumour amongst Villa circles that the two clubs are plotting
some kind of swap deal involving Sasa Curcic and Tony Yeboah. Hurray,
another player who manages to drag himself onto the pitch once in a
blue moon. Can we have Lee Sharpe as well?
Mike
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33.2686 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | Slip Away.... | Wed Mar 19 1997 18:48 | 3 |
| >Can we have Lee Sharpe as well?
Nope.. but you can have Carlton Palmer....
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33.2687 | Shi* and he knows he is!! | VYGER::ALEXANDERM | MARK ALEXANDER | Mon Mar 31 1997 18:54 | 7 |
| Just thought I would inform all Leeds fans the following, Derek Lilley
is shi*. He looks good in a shi* league, against shi* opposition, and
when he does play against any half decent opposition, he is shi*.
Bit cynical but I thought you should know!
Mark.
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33.2688 | Is it the end of Carlton P ? | CHEFS::16.37.8.210::Mad | Are you suggesting coconuts migrate ? | Fri Apr 04 1997 17:28 | 13 |
| Off IRN
Despite newspaper speculation, Leeds manager George Graham has deniedmaking an
approach for Tranmere's highly-rated 19-year-old midfielder, Alan Mahon.
Graham and his assistant manager David O'Leary have watched Mahon, who hashad a
4 million pound price tag slapped on him by the 1st division outfit.
Mad
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33.2689 | You don't deserve Europe with performances like that!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | It ain't loud enough, punk! | Tue Apr 08 1997 13:01 | 12 |
| Ah, the Premiership...fast.....exciting.....flowing....skilful.....a
joy to behold certain games....plenty of action and enthusiasm from
teams and supporters
and then you get a "display" like that!
Stretch.
PS - Palmer would have improved things and that just about sums it up!
|
33.2690 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Shower me with sugar lumps | Tue Apr 08 1997 13:11 | 4 |
| I wondered why Radio5Live kept giving us the latest non-league scores
at 30 second intervals....
Ray....
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33.2691 | debut game ? | IRNBRU::GIBBONS | | Thu Apr 24 1997 17:57 | 8 |
| Saw a report on the leeds/forrest game that mentioned Derek Lilley putting the
ball in the net, but ruled out for offside. Was this his Leeds debut and did he
start or come on as sub ? Did he make an impression in the premiership ?
Have to be honest, I did not expect to see his name on the Leeds team sheets so
soon.
Danny.
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33.2692 | Hello George .. only me !!! | CHEFS::JAMESP | | Tue May 13 1997 14:07 | 10 |
|
I see in the paper that Thomas Brolin is being released by Parma, did
Leeds sell him or loan him ???.
if they loaned him he aint gonna be a happy bunny ????
Cheers
Pj
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33.2693 | Can Graham spell "a t t a c k" | MILE::JENKINS | | Wed May 14 1997 16:35 | 10 |
33.2694 | Leeds for the easy life | BEORN::BREADIE | | Wed May 14 1997 17:11 | 8 |
| aye but he is an attacking full back !>*
Graham must be chuffed with Robertson remarks in the Scottish press
about he felt the pressure was too high on Rangers to win the league
each year, so he joined Leeds
regards
D
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33.2695 | he needs a link man | IRNBRU::GIBBONS | | Wed May 14 1997 17:26 | 3 |
| Graham has already bought a striker. What he does not have is somone to help get
the ball to the forwards.
Danny.
|
33.2696 | what about the MAIN man | CHEFS::16.43.128.64::Mad | you poor mis-guided fools | Fri May 16 1997 17:09 | 8 |
| >Graham has already bought a striker. What he does not have is somone to help
>get the ball to the forwards.
>Danny.
what about Carlton ?
Mad
|
33.2697 | I don't think the defence is the problem George. | CHEFS::CROSSA | Punks jump up to get beat down | Thu May 29 1997 20:34 | 23 |
| Off IRN.....
Leeds striker Brian Deane looks set to leave
Elland Road as George Graham continues to
concentrate on strengthening his defence.
Deane's chances to find the net have been limited
as the former Arsenal boss made shoring up the
back line his priority to ensure Leeds'
Premiership survival.
The 29-year-old, who's out of contract, has been
linked with a move to Middlesbrough.
What a wise move considering Leeds were the lowest scorers in all four
divisions!!!!!
I'm not too sure that Brian Deane can fill Ravenellis boots
either.
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