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13.1 | Prediction Time | PANIC::ANDERSON | Warnock's Wheelbarrow in the First | Mon Aug 12 1991 17:38 | 37 |
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A few predictions for the new season :
Division 1 1. Arsenal 20. Oldham Athletic
2. Leeds United 21. Southampton
3. Liverpool 22. Luton Town (of course!)
Division 2 1. Newcastle 22. Bristol Rovers
2. Barnsley 23. Southend
3. Oxford 24. Plymouth
Division 3 1. Bolton 21. Hull
2. Brentford 22. Shrewsbury
3. Stoke City 23. Fulham
24. Exeter
Division 4 1. Burnley 25. Aldershot
2. Crewe
3. Scarborough
4. Blackpool
F.A. Cup Winners : Nottingham Forest
Runners-up : Chelsea
Rumbelows (?) Cup Winners : Leeds United
Runners-up : Manchester City
European Cup : Arsenal to reach quarter-final
European Cup Winners Cup : Man Utd to reach semi-final
Tottenham to reach 3rd Round
UEFA Cup : Liverpool to win it
Rob
But then again, last year I got virtually none right either.
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13.2 | Baaaarnsleeeey | COMICS::HAWLEY | no, its a flower pot | Tue Aug 13 1991 13:48 | 13 |
| PANIC::ANDERSON...
i LOVE you!!!
at last someone else has seen that Barnsley are a class team capable of
promotion...a team which so cruelly missed the playoffs last season.
unfortunatley the sale of Carl Tiler, our England U-21 defender to
Notts Forest will probably mean that our defence isnt as solid as it
was last year. Shame really...tell me, is your prediction based upon
Barnsleys performances against Notts Co.?
see you in the first,
Ian.
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13.3 | First goal | KERNEL::WATTERSON | I wasn't pushed - I jumped | Wed Aug 14 1991 15:23 | 15 |
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Okay peeps, it's that time of year again.
Lets have you predictions for the quickest First division scorer and
the time of the goal.
Rules:
Two guesses per person
First division teams only
Winning time and scorer will be determined by whovever buys Sundays
'News of the World'.
Paul
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13.4 | I won in 1989 | KERNEL::WATTERSON | I wasn't pushed - I jumped | Wed Aug 14 1991 15:25 | 8 |
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Me first....
Peter Beardsley 2 mins Everton V Nottm Forest
Paul Parker (OG) 1min whoever V Man Utd
Paul
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13.5 | I didn't win in 1989 or 1990 | COMICS::PARSONS | Anyone got a turquoise tracksuit ? | Wed Aug 14 1991 15:27 | 3 |
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All of Saturdays games will end 0-0 and on Tuesday Lee Chapman
will score after 3 seconds vs Forest.
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13.6 | hedging my bets | COMICS::HAWLEY | no, its a flower pot | Wed Aug 14 1991 15:35 | 6 |
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1. Saunders 2 mins. Liverpool V Oldham
2. Some Oldham player 2 mins. Oldham V Liverpool
Ian.
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13.7 | | HERON::ARNOLD | Now Heading North! | Wed Aug 14 1991 15:46 | 4 |
| Saunders 1min
Mark 'Handbag' Hughes 2min
Tony
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13.8 | The Clockwork Scouser | PANIC::ANDERSON | Warnock's Wheelbarrow in the First | Wed Aug 14 1991 16:37 | 19 |
| >> <<< Note 13.4 by KERNEL::WATTERSON "I wasn't pushed - I jumped" >>>
>> -< I won in 1989 >-
>> Paul Parker (OG) 1min whoever V Man Utd
^^^^^^^
Paul,
Glad to see that you think my 'puny little club' will go 1-0 up against
a 'Mega Big Huge' club :-)
FWIW :
Stuart Slater - 3 mins, West Ham v Luton
Teddy Sherringham - 18 secs, Forest v some-team-or-other
Rob
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13.9 | The Choccy bars are on me | MINDER::MACDONALDI | | Wed Aug 14 1991 18:01 | 9 |
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Choccy 3min - (the only) UTD v Notts County
Graeme Sharp 4min - Oldham v some team or other
im
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13.10 | is it EOIN or OWN goal PARKER?? | MACNAS::MJGREANEY | | Wed Aug 14 1991 19:20 | 12 |
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20 seconds, TEDDY SHERINGHAM FOREST v. everton
2 seconds Paul (eoin goal) Parker v. whatever
"U REDS"
M.J.
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13.11 | Ronnie and Aldo. | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | CARPE DIEM | Wed Aug 14 1991 19:25 | 8 |
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Ronnie Whelan after 20 secs. after a beautiful move invovling Nicol,
Wright and Walters who crosses beautifully for Saunders, his shot is
parried by the keeper for Ronnie to pounce.
In the 2nd div., THE GREAT ALDO will put the ball in the net after
45 secs. against Brighton.
Martin.
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13.12 | Shome mishtake shurely? | GVAADG::BUENO | | Wed Aug 14 1991 20:10 | 6 |
| !!!In the 2nd div., THE GREAT ALDO
+++ ++++
Can this be? Are we dreaming?
I think we should be told.
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13.13 | quick score | STAR::CASSILY | | Thu Aug 15 1991 06:31 | 8 |
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re: .3
Spurs - Lineker
Aston Villa - Platt
Mike
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13.14 | | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | It's a long time since '67 | Thu Aug 15 1991 11:42 | 5 |
| Re previous note,
If Platt manages to score for Villa on Saturday, that
will be a neat trick indeed as he has moved to Bari in Italy for 5.5m.
Martin.
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13.15 | In the right net of course. | WELPUT::BWALKER | Come on you Hatters. | Thu Aug 15 1991 19:20 | 7 |
| Brian Stein AKA Brown Stain after 2 mins.
West ham V. Luton.
Don't laugh I'm serious.
Barry.
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13.16 | And I'm serious too 8-) | CURRNT::PAGED | The Sultan Of Wobble | Thu Aug 15 1991 19:33 | 1 |
| Look at those pigs fly !!
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13.17 | If He Signs........ | DUCK::WILSOND1 | | Thu Aug 15 1991 19:51 | 3 |
| Gordon Durie 2 mins for Spurs at the Dell.
Dave...
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13.18 | Are you watching Jimmy Hill | ESSB::SONEILL | | Thu Aug 15 1991 20:00 | 15 |
| Gary,
When I pressed "DIR" for the first time on the new conference I was
surprised to see that the English First Division wasn't included. On
further investigation I see that the "Football League" was I presume
a Freudian slip on the keyboard. What do they play in countries such
as Italy, SPain and Germany?
But then I suppose it is "the greatest football league in the world" next
to China's Ping-pong championship.
Shane
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13.19 | leave off Shane!!! | ESSB::BREE | | Thu Aug 15 1991 20:12 | 15 |
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Shane,
Gary is just a nice guy. Leave him alone you sh*tstirrer, northsider,
white socks/black slip on shaper!!!!!!
p.s. Mr. Moderator, Shane and I know each other so don't get panicky.
Paul
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13.20 | Daz whiteness | ESSB::SONEILL | | Thu Aug 15 1991 20:50 | 6 |
| Paul,
Your sister tells you everything...right down to the colour of my
jocks, sorry socks.
Shane
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13.21 | THE DREAM AND THE REALITY????? | UPROAR::SHORESD | david shores | Thu Aug 15 1991 21:53 | 19 |
| re: fastest goals...
Teddy S. with a screaming shot into the top right hand corner after
2mins 30 after typical PSYCHO Pearce raid on the left wing and
intricate passing between Clough and Keane.Football as it should be
played....
Well I can dream.... 8-) 8-)
More realistically.....
Alan Smith from a short corner flicked on at the near post for BORING
BORING ARSENAL v whoever....
8-)
DavidS.
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13.22 | another try | STAR::CASSILY | | Fri Aug 16 1991 07:53 | 12 |
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re: .13
hmmmmm......serves me right for moving house...not getting new news.
OK, let's try.....
1. Spurs (Lineker), same as before
2. Arsenal (Smith)
Mike
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13.23 | The first goal - result | KERNEL::WATTERSON | I wasn't pushed - I jumped | Sun Aug 18 1991 13:05 | 14 |
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Well what a pathetic effort - nobody even came close.
The first goal was scored by ALAN SHEARER of SOUTHAMPTON (2 mins
according to the NOTW).
Joint second were DAVID HURST (SHEFF WED) and BRIAN DEANE (SHEFF UTD)
(3 mins).
Try again next year.
Paul
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13.24 | what happend on Saturday | KERNEL::WATTERSON | I wasn't pushed - I jumped | Sun Aug 18 1991 13:32 | 70 |
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Arsenal 1-1 QPR att 38,099
Merson 90 Bailey 15
Chelsea 2-2 Wimbledon att 22,574
Elliot 36 Fashanu 24
Allon 36 Earle 57
Coventry 0-1 Man City att 18,013
Quinn 16
Liverpool 2-1 Oldham att 38,481
Houghton 52 Barrett 8
Barnes 77
Man Utd 2-0 Notts Co att 46,278
Hughes 39
Robson 57
Norwich 2-2 Sheff Utd att 16,380
Fleck 74,84 Deane 3
Hill 73
Nottm For. 2-1 Everton att 24,422
Clough 60 Pearce (OG) 37
Jemson 87
Sheff Wed 2-3 Aston Villa att 36,749
Hirst 3 Regis 42
Wilson 36 Atkinson 51
Staunton 85
Southampton 2-3 Tottenham att 18,581
Shearer 2 Lineker 40,72
Hall 74 Durie 70
West Ham 0-0 Luton att 25,079
The game of the day was at Sheff Wed, where Ron Atkinson, returning to
the club he'd left during the summer, saw Villa trail 2-0 at one stage
before fighting back to win with a Steve Staunton goal with five minutes
left. Arsenal also left it very late before snatching a 90th minute
equaliser against QPR. Liverpool beat Oldham 2-1, but only after Oldham
had led from the 8th minute and only a 'breath-taking' save from
Grobbelaar denied Graeme Sharp a last minute equaliser. Man Utd had a
comfortable 2-0 over new boys Notts County in front of the biggest
crowd of the day - thousands more were locked out (obviously the
thousands of Notts County supporters.... :-)) Neil Warnock is in the
papers this morning slagging the ref off.
Elsewhere, some other new boys scored on their debuts - Durie for
Tottenham and both Paul Elliott and Joe Allon for Chelsea, although
Elliot is being blamed for Wimbledon's first goal in the 2-2 draw.
Sheff Utd looked to have equalled their pre-christmas points tally
last year when the lead 2-0 at Norwich, but two Fleck goals denied
them. Man City had a useful 1-0 win at Coventry where the
crowd made it sound like a home game for City - Quinn scored. Everton
lost to a late Jemson goal at Forest despite dominating for long
periods.
Outside the first division, League new-comers Barnet were thrashed 7-4
at home by Crewe and John Aldridge scored twice for Tranmere in the 2-0
win at Brighton - only the woodwork denied him a hat-trick.
AND the really good news is there were no reports of football violence
anywhere yesterday.
Paul
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13.25 | Eh? | RTOEU::TRAYNER | | Wed Sep 11 1991 20:11 | 4 |
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Well the football conference is back...as I understand it we
have decided to abandon the first 5 weeks of the Championship
after complaints from the Arse fans......;-)
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13.26 | Results ? | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | bring back Bob Hatton ! | Thu Sep 12 1991 12:58 | 3 |
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Any matches been played this week ??
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13.27 | Wait until Saturday | UNTADI::NFLETCHER | Beardo , Wardo and Wazzo | Thu Sep 12 1991 13:16 | 5 |
| RE:-1
No. International matches instead.
Nigel
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13.28 | Results and Tables ??? | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | bring back Bob Hatton ! | Mon Sep 16 1991 16:30 | 9 |
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Come on chaps - Monday afternoon and still no league tables ? What's
going on ?
I know - it's 'cos Luton aren't bottom, isn't it ?????
Adam.
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13.29 | All The Facts & Figures....Again | PANIC::ANDERSON | Warnock's Wheelbarrow in the First | Mon Sep 16 1991 17:52 | 271 |
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A re-cap on the story so far .....
Saturday 17th August : see .24
Crystal Palace v Leeds postponed due to ground not being ready.
Tuesday 20th August :
Everton 3 Arsenal 1 31,200
Ward 45,72 Winterburn 87
Cottee 60
Leeds 1 Forest 0 29,457
McAllister 13
Notts County 1 Southampton 0 9,613
Yates 38
Sheff Utd 1 West Ham 1 21,463
Beesley 49 Small 47
Wednesday 21st August :
Aston Villa 0 Man. Utd. 1 39,995
Bruce (Pen) 39
Coventry 5 Luton 0 10,084
Gallacher 7,39
Rosario 45
Smith 68
Furlong 71
Manchester City 2 Liverpool 1 37,322
White 29,64 McManaman 75
Oldham 3 Chelsea 0 14,997
Marshall 16
Holden 41
Currie 89
QPR 0 Norwich 2 10,726
Gordon 29
Newman 75
Tottenham v Palace postponed due to ECWC commitments (now Nov 26th)
Wimbledon v Sheff. Weds postponed due to ground not being ready.
Saturday 24th August :
Aston Villa 3 Arsenal 1 29,684
Staunton (Pen) 40 Smith 45
Penrice 53
Daley 76
Everton 0 Man. Utd. 0 36,085
Leeds 1 Sheff. Weds. 1 30,260
Hodge 87 Hirst 48
Luton 0 Liverpool 0 11,132
Man. City 3 Crystal Palace 2 28,023
Brennan (Pens) 40,86 Thomas 15
White 45 Bright 49
Notts County 0 Nottm. Forest 4 21,044
Crosby 55
Charles 64
Sheringham 69
Keane 74
Oldham 2 Norwich 2 13,548
Marshall 3 Crook 21
Barrett 24 Newman 49
QPR 1 Coventry 1 9,393
Wegerle 69 Gynn 46
Sheff. Utd. 0 Southampton 2 18,029
Shearer 44
Le Tissier 78
Tottenham 1 Chelsea 3 34,645
Lineker 54 Dixon 2
Wilson 23
Townsend 46
Wimbledon 2 West Ham 0 10,081
Earle 30
Fashanu 72
Tuesday 27th August :
Arsenal 2 Luton 0 25,898
Merson 30
Smith 50
Cyrstal Palace 3 Wimbledon 2 16,340
Bright 45 Fashanu 10
Gray (Pen) 45 Earle 87
Wright 61
Liverpool 1 QPR 0 32,700
Saunders 62
Wednesday 28th August :
Chelsea 2 Notts County 2 15,847
Elliott 54 Johnson 4
Allon 63 Bartlett 48
Coventry 3 Sheff. Utd. 1 12,601
Smith (Pen) 8 Bryson 14
Furlong 28
Rosario 35
Man. Utd. 1 Oldham 0 42,078
McClair 85
Norwich 0 Man. City 0 15,376
Nottm. Forest 1 Tottenham 3 24,018
Clough 10 Lineker 38
Durie 67
Bergsson 86
Sheff. Weds. 2 Everton 1 28,690
Wilson 54 Watson 65
Anderson 87
Southampton 0 Leeds 4 15,862
Speed 23,87
Strachan (Pens) 56,69
West Ham 3 Aston Villa 1 23,644
Small 64 Daley 48
Rosenior 66
Brown 86
Saturday 31st August :
Arsenal 2 Man. City 1 35,009
Smith 46 Brightwell 31
Limpar 77
Chelsea 4 Luton 1 17,457
Le Saux 20 Gray 47
Townsend 32
Dixon 44
Wise 60
Coventry 0 Wimbledon 1 9,469
Cork 30
Crystal Palace 2 Sheff. Utd. 1 15,507
Thomas 80 Hodges 53
Wright 89
Liverpool 3 Everton 1 39,072
Burrows 1 Newell 78
Saunders 14
Houghton 62
Man. Utd. 1 Leeds 1 43,778
Robson 86 Chapman 7
Norwich 0 Tottenham 1 19,460
Lineker 37
Nottm. Forest 3 Oldham 1 23,244
Gemmill 28 Marshall 50
Keane 41
Pearce 63
Sheff. Weds. 4 QPR 1 25,022
Palmer 6,41,45 Bailey 73
Sheridan 69
Southampton 1 Aston Villa 1 16,161
Shearer 33 Richardson 2
West Ham 0 Notts County 2 20,093
Bartlett 66,69
Tuesday 3rd September :
Everton 1 Norwich 1 19,197
Ward 49 Phillips 84
Leeds 2 Arsenal 2 29,396
Strachan (Pen) 66 Smith 20,48
Chapman 86
Notts County 2 Sheff. Weds. 1 12,297
Johnson (Pen) 7, 85 Pearson 25
Oldham 2 Coventry 1 12,996
Adam 31 Furlong 73
Henry 63
Sheff. Utd. 0 Chelsea 1 17,400
Wise 56
Wimbledon 1 Man. Utd. 2 13,824
Fashanu 82 Blackmore 25
Pallister 44
Wednesday 4th September :
Aston Villa 0 Crystal Palace 1 20,740
Wright 3
Luton 2 Southampton 1 8,055
Gray 32 Le Tissier (Pen) 30
Harvey 40
Man. City 2 Nottm. Forest 1 29,146
Quinn 39 Sheringham 65
Hill 85
QPR 0 West Ham 0 16,616
Tottenham v Liverpool re-scheduled to Dec 18th due to ECWC commitments
Saturday 7th September :
Arsenal 1 Coventry 2 28,142
Adams 88 Dixon (og) 1
Ndluvo 85
Aston Villa 0 Tottenham 0 33,096
Everton 2 Crystal Palace 2 21,065
Warzycha 54 Gray (Pen) 34
Beardsley 60 Bright 69
Leeds 3 Man. City 0 28,986
Dorigo 18
Batty 34
Strachan (Pen) 79
Man. Utd. 3 Norwich 0 44,946
Irwin 22
McClair 23
Giggs 27
Notts County 1 Liverpool 2 16,051
Johnson 42 Rosenthal 70
Walters (Pen) 88
Oldham 2 Sheff. Utd. 1 15,064
Snodin 13 Deane 46
Marshall 32
QPR 2 Southampton 2 9,237
Barker 68 Shearer 1
Thompson 84 Dowie 81
Sheff. Weds. 2 Nottm. Forest 1 31,289
Williams 19 Crosby 48
Francis 88
West Ham 1 Chelsea 1 18,875
Small 49 Dixon 56
Wimbledon 3 Luton 0 3,231
Clarke 25
Ryan 65,76
Rob
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13.30 | Back Up to Date....Table Follows Soon | PANIC::ANDERSON | Warnock's Wheelbarrow in the First | Mon Sep 16 1991 18:08 | 43 |
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Results & stuff from Saturday 14th September :
Chelsea .......... 0 Leeds United .......... 1 23,439
Shutt 61
Coventry City .... 1 Notts County .......... 0 10,685
Furlong 47
Crystal Palace ... 1 Arsenal ............... 4 24,228
Bright 85 Campbell 16,81
Smith 55
Thomas 57
Liverpool ........ 1 Aston Villa ........... 1 38,400
Walters (Pen) 39 Richardson 25
Luton Town ....... 2 Oldham Athletic ....... 1 9,005
Harford 85,89 Marshall 52
Manchester City .. 0 Sheffield Wednesday ... 1 29,453
Williams 73
Norwich City ..... 2 West Ham United ....... 1 15,348
Fox 12, Gordon 38 Small 15
Nottingham Forest 4 Wimbledon ............. 2 19,707
Keane 11,47 McGee 2, Fashanu (Pen) 76
Black 44
Elkins (og) 62
Sheffield United . 2 Everton ............... 1 19,817
Hoyland 64 Beardsley 7
Bryson 72
Southampton ...... 0 Manchester United ..... 1 19,264
Hughes 48
Tottenham Hotspur 2 Queen's Park Rangers .. 0 30,059
Lineker 72,75
Rob (With a little help from VNS)
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13.31 | Here's the table.... | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | The Hit Man | Mon Sep 16 1991 19:56 | 23 |
| LEAGUE DIV 1
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1 Manchester_United.... 8 6 2 0 11 2 20 9
2 Leeds_United......... 7 4 3 0 13 4 15 9
3 Liverpool............ 7 4 2 1 10 6 14 4
4 Coventry_City........ 8 4 1 3 13 7 13 6
5 Sheffield_Wednesday.. 7 4 1 2 13 9 13 4
6 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 6 4 1 1 10 6 13 4
7 Manchester_City...... 8 4 1 3 9 10 13 -1
8 Nottingham_Forest.... 8 4 0 4 16 12 12 4
9 Chelsea.............. 8 3 3 2 13 11 12 2
10 Arsenal.............. 8 3 2 3 14 13 11 1
11 Wimbledon............ 7 3 1 3 13 11 10 2
12 Oldham_Athletic...... 8 3 1 4 12 12 10 0
13 Crystal_Palace....... 6 3 1 2 11 12 10 -1
14 Norwich_City......... 8 2 4 2 9 10 10 -1
15 Notts_County......... 8 3 1 4 8 12 10 -4
16 Aston_Villa.......... 8 2 3 3 9 10 9 -1
17 Luton_Town........... 8 2 2 4 5 16 8 -11
18 West_Ham_United...... 8 1 4 3 6 9 7 -3
19 Everton.............. 8 1 3 4 10 13 6 -3
20 Southampton.......... 8 1 2 5 8 14 5 -6
21 Sheffield_United..... 8 1 2 5 8 14 5 -6
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13.32 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's Me in the Corner !! | Tue Sep 17 1991 13:38 | 6 |
| RE -.1
Have I missed something??? Have QPR really dropped out of the league?? ;-)
Last I saw they were propping up the division. Don't know any stats though.
Al
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13.33 | | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | The Hit Man | Tue Sep 17 1991 15:37 | 29 |
| re -.1
QPR's omission in the league table was due to a pasting error and not
their footballing excellence (or was it!!)
Revised edition for those faithful QPR fans...
PL W D L GF GA PTS GD
1 Manchester_United.... 8 6 2 0 11 2 20 9
2 Leeds_United......... 7 4 3 0 13 4 15 9
3 Liverpool............ 7 4 2 1 10 6 14 4
4 Coventry_City........ 8 4 1 3 13 7 13 6
5 Sheffield_Wednesday.. 7 4 1 2 13 9 13 4
6 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 6 4 1 1 10 6 13 4
7 Manchester_City...... 8 4 1 3 9 10 13 -1
8 Nottingham_Forest.... 8 4 0 4 16 12 12 4
9 Chelsea.............. 8 3 3 2 13 11 12 2
10 Arsenal.............. 8 3 2 3 14 13 11 1
11 Wimbledon............ 7 3 1 3 13 11 10 2
12 Oldham_Athletic...... 8 3 1 4 12 12 10 0
13 Crystal_Palace....... 6 3 1 2 11 12 10 -1
14 Norwich_City......... 8 2 4 2 9 10 10 -1
15 Notts_County......... 8 3 1 4 8 12 10 -4
16 Aston_Villa.......... 8 2 3 3 9 10 9 -1
17 Luton_Town........... 8 2 2 4 5 16 8 -11
18 West_Ham_United...... 8 1 4 3 6 9 7 -3
19 Everton.............. 8 1 3 4 10 13 6 -3
20 Southampton.......... 8 1 2 5 8 14 5 -6
21 Sheffield_United..... 8 1 2 5 8 14 5 -6
22 QPR.................. 8 0 4 4 5 13 4 -8 <<<<<<------
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13.34 | | ARRODS::SWANSON | | Tue Sep 17 1991 23:57 | 3 |
| Thanks for the correction. However it was an understandable mistake, simply
stopping the edit selection once you got to Sheffield United at this time of
season.
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13.35 | league table 17-09-91 | XSTACY::KMCGRATH | | Wed Sep 18 1991 20:42 | 24 |
| LEAGUE DIV 1
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PL W D L GF GA PTS GD
1 Manchester_United.... 8 6 2 0 11 2 20 9
2 Leeds_United......... 7 4 3 0 13 4 15 9
3 Liverpool............ 7 4 2 1 10 6 14 4
4 Coventry_City........ 8 4 1 3 13 7 13 6
5 Sheffield_Wednesday.. 7 4 1 2 13 9 13 4
6 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 6 4 1 1 10 6 13 4
7 Notts_County......... 9 4 1 4 11 13 13 -2
8 Manchester_City...... 9 4 1 4 9 11 13 -2
9 Nottingham_Forest.... 8 4 0 4 16 12 12 4
10 Chelsea.............. 8 3 3 2 13 11 12 2
11 Arsenal.............. 8 3 2 3 14 13 11 1
12 Wimbledon............ 7 3 1 3 13 11 10 2
13 Oldham_Athletic...... 8 3 1 4 12 12 10 0
14 Norwich_City......... 8 2 4 2 9 10 10 -1
15 Crystal_Palace....... 7 3 1 3 13 15 10 -2
16 West_Ham_United...... 9 2 4 3 9 11 10 -2
17 Aston_Villa.......... 8 2 3 3 9 10 9 -1
18 Everton.............. 9 2 3 4 11 13 9 -2
19 Luton_Town........... 9 2 2 5 5 17 8 -12
20 QPR.................. 9 1 4 4 6 13 7 -7
21 Southampton.......... 8 1 2 5 8 14 5 -6
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13.36 | Midweek scores | PANIC::ANDERSON | Warnock's Wheelbarrow in the First | Fri Sep 20 1991 13:53 | 31 |
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Results from Tuesday 17th September :
Crystal Palace 2-3 West Ham United 21,363
Salako 12 Thomas 53
Wright 61 Morley 57
Small 77
Luton Town 0-1 Queens Park Rangers 9,185
Barker 47
Manchester City 0-1 Everton 27,509
Beardsley 67
Sheffield United 1-3 Notts County 19,375
Agana 69 Bartlett 75,77
Rideout 81
Results from Wednesday 18th September :
Chelsea 2-0 Aston Villa 17,182
Jones 22
Townsend 57
Coventry City 0-0 Leeds United 15,488
Norwich City 1-0 Sheffield Wednesday 12,503
Fleck (Pen) 24
Southampton 1-0 Wimbledon 11,280
Cockerill 50
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13.37 | Latest Table | PANIC::ANDERSON | Warnock's Wheelbarrow in the First | Fri Sep 20 1991 15:03 | 28 |
| Division 1 Table as at 20th September 1991 :
PL W D L GF GA PTS GD
1 Manchester United.... 8 6 2 0 11 2 20 9
2 Leeds United......... 8 4 4 0 13 4 16 9
3 Chelsea.............. 9 4 3 2 15 11 15 4
4 Liverpool............ 7 4 2 1 10 6 14 4
5 Coventry City........ 9 4 2 3 13 7 14 6
6 Tottenham Hotspur.... 6 4 1 1 10 6 13 4
7 Sheffield Wednesday.. 8 4 1 3 13 10 13 3
8 Norwich City......... 9 3 4 2 10 10 13 0
9 Notts County......... 9 4 1 4 11 13 13 -2
10 Manchester City...... 9 4 1 4 9 11 13 -2
11 Nottingham Forest.... 8 4 0 4 16 12 12 4
12 Arsenal.............. 8 3 2 3 14 13 11 1
13 Wimbledon............ 8 3 1 4 13 12 10 1
14 Oldham Athletic...... 8 3 1 4 12 12 10 0
15 Crystal Palace....... 7 3 1 3 13 15 10 -2
16 West Ham United...... 9 2 4 3 9 11 10 -2
17 Everton.............. 9 2 3 4 11 13 9 -2
18 Aston Villa.......... 9 2 3 4 9 12 9 -3
19 Southampton.......... 9 2 2 5 9 14 8 -5
20 Luton Town........... 9 2 2 5 5 17 8 -12
21 QPR.................. 9 1 4 4 6 13 7 -7
22 Sheffield United..... 9 1 2 6 9 17 5 -8
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13.38 | League table | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | The Hit Man | Fri Sep 20 1991 15:04 | 25 |
| LEAGUE DIV 1
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PL W D L GF GA PTS GD
1 Manchester_United.... 8 6 2 0 11 2 20 9
2 Leeds_United......... 8 4 4 0 13 4 16 9
3 Chelsea.............. 9 4 3 2 15 11 15 4
4 Coventry_City........ 9 4 2 3 13 7 14 6
5 Liverpool............ 7 4 2 1 10 6 14 4
6 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 6 4 1 1 10 6 13 4
7 Sheffield_Wednesday.. 8 4 1 3 13 10 13 3
8 Norwich_City......... 9 3 4 2 10 10 13 0
9 Notts_County......... 9 4 1 4 11 13 13 -2
10 Manchester_City...... 9 4 1 4 9 11 13 -2
11 Nottingham_Forest.... 8 4 0 4 16 12 12 4
12 Arsenal.............. 8 3 2 3 14 13 11 1
13 Wimbledon............ 8 3 1 4 13 12 10 1
14 Oldham_Athletic...... 8 3 1 4 12 12 10 0
15 Crystal_Palace....... 7 3 1 3 13 15 10 -2
16 West_Ham_United...... 9 2 4 3 9 11 10 -2
17 Everton.............. 9 2 3 4 11 13 9 -2
18 Aston_Villa.......... 9 2 3 4 9 12 9 -3
19 Southampton.......... 9 2 2 5 9 14 8 -5
20 Luton_Town........... 9 2 2 5 5 17 8 -12
21 QPR.................. 9 1 4 4 6 13 7 -7
22 Sheffield_United..... 9 1 2 6 9 17 5 -8
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13.39 | All quiet on the Premier front ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Sep 24 1991 13:21 | 10 |
| Peace seems to have broken out on the Premier League front, there will
be a Premier League of 22 teams next season, 3 up 3 down, and 3 million
to be paid to the lower clubs by the Premier League clubs. No ground
specifications have been drawn up yet, but they probably will be later
on. This season's relegation / promotion to fromm the Premier League
will be traumatic affairs, especially for relegated clubs (with any
luck Luton, Wimbledon and QPR) to be replaced with Middlesborough,
Sunderland and Newcastle (some hope the last 2 !)
jb.
|
13.40 | Questions from a distance. | ASKFOR::HAIGH | Herr Reiner Geschmackssache | Tue Sep 24 1991 17:12 | 6 |
| > be a Premier League of 22 teams next season, 3 up 3 down, and 3 million
So what are going to be the big differences? I thought they were
rtying to push for 16 teams. And why will it be especially bad to get
relegated this year?
|
13.41 | Less dosh | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Sep 24 1991 17:47 | 6 |
| re -1
Getting relegated this year will mean a lot less money for the clubs
involved.
jb.
|
13.42 | | GVAADG::BUENO | | Tue Sep 24 1991 17:56 | 4 |
| What is the point of having a Super League with 22 teams? Isn't that
about four too many?
P
|
13.43 | Money Money Money | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Sep 24 1991 18:24 | 11 |
| 22 teams = 42 games = MONEY
The whole purpose of the Premier league is money, politicking, money,
and more money for the bigger clubs. The cake size should increase
though, ans football will be sold more and more and the TV companies
will have more and more of a say when and where games are played. The
traditional Saturday afternoon will become less common, more Sunday
matches will be played.
jb.
|
13.44 | | ASKFOR::HAIGH | Herr Reiner Geschmackssache | Tue Sep 24 1991 19:17 | 9 |
| So does this means the FA have gone ahead with their plan, yes? WHat do
the football league have to say about it? And why will the relegated clubs
lose money? Won't they have just the same chance of promotion into the
Premier league next year? Only one years BIG money lost.
Seriously confused about a few issues here.
Steve
|
13.45 | Down and Out | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Sep 24 1991 19:38 | 10 |
| If they come back up, then it is only 1 year's money lost - but will
the team still be there ? Can the players be kept on premier League
salaries in Div whatever ?
Clubs that go down don't always come up, many of them go down again
(Burnley, Sunderland, Sheff U to name some). Some come up and up, eg
Grimsby, Southend and Cambridge, Div 4 to Div 2 in 2 seasons at the
same time ! Cambridge are near the top of Div 2 now.
jb.
|
13.46 | | GVAADG::BUENO | | Tue Sep 24 1991 19:55 | 4 |
| But didn't the clubs want a Super League precisely so there would be
less clubs in it?
Peter
|
13.47 | Couch Potato Takeover | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Sep 24 1991 20:11 | 11 |
| yes and no - it wasn't for the good of the game, more like the greed of
the few. There is money to be made from football, the big clubs felt
they weren't getting their 'fair' share. Expect to see more 'Premier
League' certified products etc etc. Football is no longer the working
man's sport, it is something else to glitz up, beam to a satellite and
then to the couch potatoes .....
jb. (who at least has a season ticket at Elland Road and does watch
some Satellite TV Football)
|
13.48 | | TOTH::CHAVES | | Tue Sep 24 1991 21:43 | 8 |
| I'm confused and would appreciate it if someone that knows would take
the time to explain what all this means. So far I find nothing new
about this so called premier division. They're taking the first
division and renaming it premier division. Did I miss something?
JC
|
13.49 | An expat writes | R2ME2::HINXMAN | There has to be a better way | Tue Sep 24 1991 22:37 | 21 |
| re .48
> about this so called premier division. They're taking the first
> division and renaming it premier division. Did I miss something?
As I understand it, th change is how the MONEY gets divvied up.
Under the Football League structure, some of the money the big
clubs take in gets redistributed to the poorer clubs (like
welfare payments :-)). Under the new scheme the Premier Division
clubs will get to keep all the revenue themselves (a sort of
soccer Reaganomics :-)).
And, I think it was you that was asking:
Most English soccer takes place at 15.00 local time on a Saturday
afternoon. So if you are in North America's Eastern time zone,
you need to point your dish at the satellite at 10.00 local time,
except for the weeks when one side of the Atlantic is on daylight
saving time and the other isn't.
Tony
|
13.51 | What's the point ? | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | bring back Bob Hatton ! | Wed Sep 25 1991 12:30 | 7 |
|
So this all means that one of the great (only?) virtues of a super
league - ie less games for our top players, and therefore a better
chance for our national sides - goes straight out the window ???
Adam.
|
13.52 | Suicidal Tendency | PANIC::ANDERSON | Warnock's Wheelbarrow in the First | Wed Sep 25 1991 12:34 | 12 |
| Re .50
It *ENDS* clubs affiliation to the Football league. This week the 3
year rule was voted out.
Re .others
The original plan was to reduce from 22 to 18 over two or three years,
and thus promotion from the Football League would be more difficult -
only one up per year. Has this now changed ?
Rob
|
13.53 | ?? | TOTH::CHAVES | | Wed Sep 25 1991 23:13 | 30 |
| Not being familiar with the details I suppose I shouldn't crtiticize.
One comment, however:
I hope those individuals responsible for the fine print that will
dictate/control the distribution of funds have studied closely examples
in other countries, namely professional sports in the US. At one point
the NBA operated under the same basic principal as the new premier
league: He who makes the money keeps it. After a while a few teams were
rich and most were bankrupt. As a result, fan appeal hit bottom and TV
audiences and gate receipts declined, except for games where the few
top teams were playing each other. This lead to reduced revenues for
all teams, including the rich. The NBA has since changed the way money
is distributed and with the traditionally poor clubs being competitive
TV ratings went up, ditto for gates receipts, and with it increased
revenues for all. The point here is that a league, any league, where
the few get the most will eventually ruin all. At the stadium or on the
couch, fans (consumers) will decide if the premier league will survive.
I can't see most of the English teams being able to compete with the
likes of Looneypoll, Mancs, Arsenal, Leeds, etc. Will fans in Lutton
and Liverpool fill the park and the remaining stay room watching
Looneypooltrash Lutton? Probably. Will I and others all over the world?
probably not. Want my money? Sell me a goog product and I'll buy it. If
not, I'll wait for the big games or those where my team (the Mancs,
of course) are involved.
Anyway, If this new league means I'll have better football on the tube
I'm all for it. I just hope they don't screw it up.
JC
|
13.54 | Is this a first? At Wimbledon! | SAC::MAGUIRE_G | | Thu Sep 26 1991 15:19 | 11 |
|
On a slightly lighter note has anyone ever heard of the away fans
sponsoring the match ball.
On December 7th Oldham are playing Wimbledon at Selhurst Park and
O.A.S.I.S (Oldham Athletic supporters In the South) are sponsoring the
match-ball. Some of the supporters think this may be a first at a First
Division game. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Gerry.
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13.55 | | ASKFOR::HAIGH | Herr Reiner Geschmackssache | Thu Sep 26 1991 15:39 | 2 |
| Maybe the Wombles can't afford to buy their own ball. Even getting
2.5M for Curle can't cover to many 2000 gates.
|
13.56 | Load of Balls. | FRAMBO::BRADLEY | Ja, das Bier-gut ist | Fri Sep 27 1991 15:23 | 5 |
|
You'll need to sponsor more than one ball with Wimbledon - first one usually
gets substituted at half time suffering from stress fractures. ;-)
Bob
|
13.57 | What's the score then ?.... | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Mon Sep 30 1991 12:23 | 7 |
|
Can someone post up Sat's results, perhaps tables too, for us ex-pats ?
Cheers,
Adam.
|
13.58 | Just for you then Adam.... | TRUCKS::SANT | | Mon Sep 30 1991 13:06 | 53 |
|
Chelsea 2 - 2 Everton
Wilson 50 Ebbrell 31
Wise 75 Beardsley 86 19,038
Coventry 1 - 0 Aston Villa
Ndlovu 40 17,851
Crystal Palace 2 - 2 QPR
Bright 81 Barker 5
Collymore 83 Wegerle 58 (pen) 15,372
Liverpool 1 - 1 Sheff. Wed.
Houghton 17 Harkes 68 37,071
Luton Town 1 - 1 Notts. County
Gray 69 Johnson 88 (pen) 7,629
Manchester City 1 - 2 Oldham Ath.
White 19 Sharpe 55,64 31,271
Norwich City 2 - 2 Leeds Utd.
Gordon 58,74 Dorigo 62
Speed 72 15,838
Nottm Forest 2 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Woan 4 Small 17,44 (pen)
Sherringham 77 25,613
Sheff. Utd. 0 - 0 Wimbledon 16,062
Southampton 0 - 4 Arsenal
Rocastle 39
Wright 48,53,75 18,050
Tottenham H. 1 - 2 Manchester United
Durie 39 Hughes 21
Robson 86 35,087
Top now looks like this....
P Pts. GD
Man Utd 10 26 +15
Leeds 10 20 +10
Arsenal 10 17 +8
Sheff. W. 10 17 +5
Chelsea 11 17 +4
Coventry 11 17 +4
Spurs 8 16 +5
Man. City 11 16 -2
Andy.
|
13.59 | Such kindness ... | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Mon Sep 30 1991 13:16 | 10 |
|
Ahhhh, that's better. It's a reet pain going through all the
continental scores before someone finally gets around to putting
up the "important" ones !! I'll just sit back and await the european
outcry for that one..
Adam.
|
13.60 | results... | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | The Hit Man | Wed Oct 02 1991 11:18 | 6 |
| can someone tell me what the score was between wed. Vs southampton (21/9/91)
I need it for the league table. I entered a reply in the wed topic but got no
reply.
Mick.
|
13.61 | Busy Busy Busy | PANIC::ANDERSON | Warnock's Wheelbarrow in the First | Wed Oct 02 1991 11:40 | 5 |
| Wednesday 2 Southampton 0
Williams 4
Worthington 65
27,291
|
13.62 | Hereeeee's The Tableeeeeeee | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | The Hit Man | Wed Oct 02 1991 15:29 | 26 |
| If there are any mistakes please let me know (but i'm sure you will!!!)
League Div 1
------------
PL W D L GF GA PTS GD
1 Manchester_United.... 10 8 2 0 18 3 26 15
2 Leeds_United......... 11 5 5 1 16 7 20 9
3 Arsenal.............. 10 5 2 3 23 15 17 8
4 Sheffield_Wednesday.. 10 5 2 3 16 11 17 5
5 Chelsea.............. 11 4 5 2 19 15 17 4
6 Coventry_City........ 11 5 2 4 14 10 17 4
7 Crystal_Palace....... 10 5 2 3 19 19 17 0
8 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 8 5 1 2 16 11 16 5
9 Manchester_City...... 11 5 1 5 12 14 16 -2
10 Liverpool............ 9 4 3 2 11 8 15 3
11 Norwich_City......... 11 3 6 2 14 14 15 0
12 Notts_County......... 11 4 3 4 14 16 15 -2
13 Nottingham_Forest.... 10 4 1 5 19 17 13 2
14 Everton.............. 11 3 4 4 16 15 13 1
15 Oldham_Athletic...... 10 4 1 5 16 16 13 0
16 Aston_Villa.......... 11 3 3 5 12 14 12 -2
17 Wimbledon............ 10 3 2 5 16 17 11 -1
18 West_Ham_United...... 11 2 5 4 12 15 11 -3
19 QPR.................. 11 1 6 4 10 17 9 -7
20 Luton_Town........... 11 2 3 6 6 23 9 -17
21 Southampton.......... 11 2 2 7 9 20 8 -11
22 Sheffield_United..... 11 1 3 7 11 22 6 -11
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13.63 | (-: (-: | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Wed Oct 02 1991 15:42 | 5 |
13.64 | The Table... 3/10/91 | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | The Hit Man | Thu Oct 03 1991 10:55 | 25 |
| League Div 1
------------
PL W D L GF GA PTS GD
1 Manchester_United.... 10 8 2 0 18 3 26 15
2 Leeds_United......... 11 5 5 1 16 7 20 9
3 Arsenal.............. 10 5 2 3 23 15 17 8
4 Chelsea.............. 11 4 5 2 19 15 17 4
5 Sheffield_Wednesday.. 11 5 2 4 17 13 17 4
6 Coventry_City........ 11 5 2 4 14 10 17 4
7 Crystal_Palace....... 10 5 2 3 19 19 17 0
8 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 8 5 1 2 16 11 16 5
9 Manchester_City...... 11 5 1 5 12 14 16 -2
10 Liverpool............ 9 4 3 2 11 8 15 3
11 Norwich_City......... 11 3 6 2 14 14 15 0
12 Notts_County......... 11 4 3 4 14 16 15 -2
13 Wimbledon............ 11 4 2 5 18 18 14 0
14 Nottingham_Forest.... 10 4 1 5 19 17 13 2
15 Everton.............. 11 3 4 4 16 15 13 1
16 Oldham_Athletic...... 10 4 1 5 16 16 13 0
17 Aston_Villa.......... 11 3 3 5 12 14 12 -2
18 West_Ham_United...... 11 2 5 4 12 15 11 -3
19 QPR.................. 11 1 6 4 10 17 9 -7
20 Luton_Town........... 11 2 3 6 6 23 9 -17
21 Southampton.......... 11 2 2 7 9 20 8 -11
22 Sheffield_United..... 11 1 3 7 11 22 6 -11
|
13.65 | some geograp. info | VARESE::BIOTTI | | Thu Oct 03 1991 17:51 | 2 |
|
Which teams in Div 1 and 2 are from London?
|
13.66 | 1st Div. | CRISPY::TRINDERS | | Thu Oct 03 1991 18:05 | 14 |
13.67 | At a guess | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Oct 03 1991 18:09 | 20 |
|
1st (3 too many)
Arsenal
Tottenham
Chelsea
QPR
Wimbledon
Crystal Palace
West Ham
2nd (3 too few)
Millwall
Charlton
3rd/ 4th
Orient
Barnet
Fulham
jb.
|
13.68 | supporters | VARESE::BIOTTI | | Thu Oct 03 1991 18:17 | 5 |
|
Can you list them by estimated supporters number ?
And another question.. where is Notts_County from?
|
13.69 | FRom Div 1 | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | The Hit Man | Thu Oct 03 1991 18:27 | 8 |
| Arsenal
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur
Wimbledon
West Ham United
QPR
Luton Town
|
13.70 | Crowd Estimates | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Oct 03 1991 18:44 | 16 |
| re -1
Luton is not in London, its 40 miles or so North.
Crowds (approx home averages, may be a bit out)
Arsenal 32,000
Tottenham 28,000
Chelsea 21,000
QPR 15,000
West Ham 20,000
Wimbledon 3,500 (yes, three thousand five hundred)
Palace 19,000
jb.
|
13.71 | thanks | VARESE::BIOTTI | | Thu Oct 03 1991 18:54 | 5 |
|
How can Wimbledon survive in the Div 1 ??
..and I re-ask .. where is Notts_County from?
|
13.72 | Wot abaaht Brentford. | KURMA::ISUTHERLAND | Go to Falkirk | Thu Oct 03 1991 18:55 | 1 |
|
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13.73 | Notts County Wombles | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Oct 03 1991 19:13 | 7 |
| Notts County are from Nottingham.
I wonder about Wimbledon as well. Their gates this season are much
lower, as they are sharing a ground with Crystal Palace, and their
loyal fans are having to travel 10 miles or so extra ....
jb.
|
13.74 | In case you wanted to know. | ARRODS::SWANSON | | Thu Oct 03 1991 20:25 | 8 |
| last night Wimbledon played Sheffield Wednesday at "home" and recorded the
lowest post war first division gate, just above the 3,000 mark, mind you
playing the likes of the Owls, allowances have to be made.
Yes Brentford are in London, and Luton are not (thought they are covered by
Capital Gold sport).
Notts County - Never heard of 'em (sounds like an American Soap Opera)
|
13.75 | Give me one good reason..... | GEMVAX::HILL | | Thu Oct 03 1991 22:33 | 14 |
| Notts County share the same ground as Nottingham Forest, I think.
What's the big deal among Wombles supporters about going to Palace's
ground 10 miles away, or was that a wind-up? After all, with the exciting,
heart-stopping brand of footie played by Wimbledon, their loyal entourage
of supporters would normally travel the length of the country for a game.
But if the game is on Saturday I can't go because A) that's my mother-in-
law's birthday, B) have to do yard work, C) kids' youth soccer game, D)
friends visiting from out of town, E) have to fix the kitchen sink,
F) it's raining, G) it's NOT raining (too nice of a day), H) Anything
else you can think of, I) any reason you CAN'T think of, or J) All of
the above.
Tom
|
13.76 | | R2ME2::HINXMAN | There has to be a better way | Thu Oct 03 1991 23:49 | 20 |
| re .75
> Notts County share the same ground as Nottingham Forest, I think.
No, they don't.
Notts County play at Meadow Lane
Nottingham Forest play at Trent Bridge
> What's the big deal among Wombles supporters about going to Palace's
> ground 10 miles away, or was that a wind-up? After all, with the exciting,
I see you are noting from a node in the U.S., so you may be unaware
that most British soccer fans travel to see their local team by foot
or public transport.
Conversely, using public transport to leave an L.A. Kings ice
hockey game, I was surprised to find that more people from the
local XXX cinema than from the forum boarded the bus.
Tony
|
13.77 | | PANIC::ANDERSON | The Pies have arrived | Fri Oct 04 1991 11:25 | 17 |
| >> <<< Note 13.76 by R2ME2::HINXMAN "There has to be a better way" >>>
>> re .75
>> > Notts County share the same ground as Nottingham Forest, I think.
>> No, they don't.
>> Notts County play at Meadow Lane
>> Nottingham Forest play at Trent Bridge
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No they don't - Nottinghamshire County Cricket Club play at Trent
Bridge. Forest play at The City Ground (about 100 yards from Trent
Bridge, and 300 from Meadow Lane)
Rob
|
13.78 | a bit out | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer | Fri Oct 04 1991 11:34 | 6 |
| re .70
> Crowds (approx home averages, may be a bit out)
> Arsenal 32,000
Just for accuracy, make that 37000.
|
13.79 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Pele Utd Brothers | Fri Oct 04 1991 14:35 | 8 |
| ...and 29,000 next season at the Arsenal. Basically, don't turn up
unless you fancy a long wait to get in. The touts will have a field
day.
Barry.
p.s. Peter, sure that 37,000 is'nt the figure for last season?
|
13.80 | Supporting distant teams | GEMVAX::HILL | | Fri Oct 04 1991 16:27 | 26 |
| I guess I was wrong about Notts Co./Forest.
I realize you can't compare supporters' habits to US sports where
everything is based on the car. I used to regularly go to Anderlecht
games on the tram, and just about all the fans took public transport.
As for the ground share with Palace, since they are both in the greater
London area, is having to take a different tube line or bus going to
have that much of an impact on overall attendance? Also, are most of
the fans generally from the neighbourhood where the pitch is? Maybe
some regular Wombles supporters might actually live more conveniently
to Palace's ground. I always got the impression that fans from everywhere
often support a distant team for any number of reasons. I had freinds in
Belgium who would travel clear cross country (yeah, it IS a small country)
from Antwerpen, Chaleroi and Liege to attend Anderlecht home matches in
Brussels. Even in this conference we have people who follow far away
teams, and might only see them in the flesh a few times per year.
Everton has a big London-based supporters club. I don't know how often
they make it to Goodison, but they go to all the away games in the
South and London area.
The point I was making was that attendance is low because the team is
boring, and that if the team played exciting football the fans would
be convinced it was worth the extra effort to make the trip. I guess I
should have put a :-) in there so as not to offend anyone.
Tom
|
13.81 | League Table 7/10/91 | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | The Hit Man | Mon Oct 07 1991 12:29 | 25 |
| League Div 1
------------
PL W D L GF GA PTS GD
1 Manchester_United.... 11 8 3 0 18 3 27 15
2 Leeds_United......... 12 6 5 1 20 10 23 10
3 Arsenal.............. 11 6 2 3 26 17 20 9
4 Sheffield_Wednesday.. 12 6 2 4 21 14 20 7
5 Coventry_City........ 12 6 2 4 15 10 20 5
6 Manchester_City...... 12 6 1 5 15 15 19 0
7 Chelsea.............. 12 4 5 3 21 18 17 3
8 Wimbledon............ 12 5 2 5 21 19 17 2
9 Crystal_Palace....... 11 5 2 4 20 23 17 -3
10 Nottingham_Forest.... 11 5 1 5 21 17 16 4
11 Everton.............. 12 4 4 4 19 16 16 3
12 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 9 5 1 3 17 14 16 3
13 Liverpool............ 10 4 4 2 11 8 16 3
14 Aston_Villa.......... 12 4 3 5 16 14 15 2
15 Norwich_City......... 12 3 6 3 15 17 15 -2
16 Notts_County......... 12 4 3 5 15 19 15 -4
17 Oldham_Athletic...... 11 4 2 5 17 17 14 0
18 West_Ham_United...... 12 2 5 5 12 16 11 -4
19 QPR.................. 12 1 6 5 10 19 9 -9
20 Southampton.......... 12 2 3 7 10 21 9 -11
21 Luton_Town........... 12 2 3 7 6 27 9 -21
22 Sheffield_United..... 12 1 3 8 14 26 6 -12
|
13.82 | Scores From 5/6th Oct | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's Me in the Corner !! | Mon Oct 07 1991 13:05 | 15 |
| Arsenal 3 - 2 Chelsea
Aston Villa 4 - 0 Luton Town
Everton 3 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Leeds Utd 4 - 3 Sheffield Utd
Man Utd 0 - 0 Liverpool
Notts County 1 - 3 Man City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 1 Southampton
QPR 0 - 2 Nottingham For
Sheffield Wed. 4 - 1 Crystal Palace
West Ham Utd 0 - 1 Coventry City
Wimbledon 3 - 1 Norwich City
Al
|
13.83 | Sensible Fixtures ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 22 1991 16:32 | 11 |
| Looking at 2 of this weekends' fixtures, I note that Sheff U are at man
City, and Man U at Sheff Wed - pretty bright Football League, easy to
keep rival fans apart - especially when they are travelling on the same
road - they are bound to meet up in pubs along the way. (By the way,
there is no direct Motorway between Manchester and Sheffield, there was
a good direct Elactrified Railway, but the Tories closed that down 10
years ago).
Other sensible fixtures are Leeds United vs Southampton on Boxing Day.
jb.
|
13.84 | I agree | KERNEL::WATTERSON | | Tue Oct 22 1991 16:55 | 15 |
| re .83
The computer obviously blew a fuse........
Everton play Liverpool at Goodison between Xmas and New Year, that
fixture's always a sell-out, so why didn't the League match them against
Luton or Wimbledon ? - games at that time of year always get big(ish)
crowds at Goodison.
Talking about Southampton - Everton play there on New Year's day, a
nice easy 250+ mile trip - can't see too many making the journey.
Bring on the super-league.
Paul
|
13.85 | | ASKFOR::HAIGH | Herr Reiner Geschmackssache | Tue Oct 22 1991 18:28 | 11 |
| There's still a rail link between Sheff and Manchester isn't there?
There are actually 3 roads that connect the Cities and they end up in
different places. Most of the United fans will probably go over the
Woodhead pass as it comes out right next to Hillsborough. The Sheff
United fans will come over the snake, as it comes out in Stockport
nearer to Maine Road. However in principle I agree, same happened last
week with Spurs v City and United v Arsenal.
Steve
|
13.86 | Sheff - Manchester Routes | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Tue Oct 22 1991 18:43 | 7 |
| There is the Hope Valley line still open, but the roads are twisty
and go through towns and villages, hence pubs hence drink etc etc.
The FL are hopeless whwn it comes to organising fixtures and running
the game, I hope the Super league will be better - or will it ?
jb.
|
13.87 | League Table as at 23/10/91.. Let me know if anything is wrong | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | The Hit Man | Wed Oct 23 1991 17:57 | 25 |
| LEAGUE DIV 1
------------
PL W D L GF GA PTS GD
1 Manchester_United.... 12 8 4 0 19 4 28 15
2 Leeds_United......... 13 7 5 1 24 12 26 12
3 Manchester_City...... 13 7 1 5 16 15 22 1
4 Arsenal.............. 12 6 3 3 27 18 21 9
5 Sheffield_Wednesday.. 13 6 3 4 23 16 21 7
6 Coventry_City........ 13 6 2 5 16 12 20 4
7 Crystal_Palace....... 12 6 2 4 22 24 20 -2
8 Aston_Villa.......... 13 5 3 5 18 14 18 4
9 Chelsea.............. 13 4 6 3 23 20 18 3
10 Liverpool............ 11 4 5 2 13 10 17 3
11 Wimbledon............ 13 5 2 6 21 20 17 1
12 Nottingham_Forest.... 12 5 1 6 23 21 16 2
13 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 10 5 1 4 17 15 16 2
14 Everton.............. 13 4 4 5 19 18 16 1
15 Oldham_Athletic...... 12 4 3 5 19 19 15 0
16 Norwich_City......... 12 3 6 3 15 17 15 -2
17 Notts_County......... 13 4 3 6 17 23 15 -6
18 West_Ham_United...... 13 2 6 5 14 18 12 -4
19 QPR.................. 13 2 6 5 11 19 12 -8
20 Luton_Town........... 13 2 4 7 8 29 10 -21
21 Sheffield_United..... 13 2 3 8 18 28 9 -10
22 Southampton.......... 12 2 3 7 10 21 9 -11
|
13.88 | Anyone know?? | KERNEL::MORIARTY | | Wed Oct 23 1991 18:14 | 5 |
| Just out of interest,when was the last time anyone saw Leeds,
Man Utd. & Arsenal taking the top 3 places in the First Division with
Liverpool nowhere in sight??
Kevin
|
13.89 | Not yet anyhow ;-) | CARDHU::MURRAY | Digital has it. Well sort of | Wed Oct 23 1991 18:34 | 7 |
|
>> -< League Table as at 23/10/91.. Let me know if anything is wrong >-
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Luton aren't bottom :-((((((
|
13.90 | They won't stay up on goal difference! | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | wot about them Braves then? | Wed Oct 23 1991 19:07 | 13 |
| Re .89,
But look at that goal difference!! -21 there's stilll hope.
they must have a scottish goalkeeper (:==:)
Anyone know what the record (worst) goal difference is for a Division 1
team - come on someone must have a Rothmans year book handy.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.91 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Wed Oct 23 1991 19:42 | 9 |
| Re .83
I can't really see what's wrong with the Sheffield club's fixture this
weekend; violence between rival fans does seem to be dying out.
As for not having local derbies on bank holidays etc, this is the great
police strategy to ensure fans have to travel a long way on such days,
and so probably won't bother; after all public transport is
non-existent on public holidays.
|
13.92 | Scores and updated table from 19/10/91 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | I brake for coffee!! | Thu Oct 24 1991 18:28 | 45 |
| Here are the scores from last weekend.
I've also included the updated table as the one in .87 missed the Southampton -
Norwich game
Chelsea 2 - 2 Liverpool
Coventry City 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Everton 0 - 2 Aston Villa
Luton Town 2 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Man Utd. 1 - 1 Arsenal
Notts County 2 - 4 Leeds Utd.
Oldham Athletic 2 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Sheffield Utd. 4 - 2 Nottingham For
Southampton 0 - 0 Norwich City
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 1 Man City
Wimbledon 0 - 1 QPR
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD PtA
1 Man Utd. 12 8 4 0 19 4 28 15 8
2 Leeds Utd. 13 7 5 1 24 12 26 12 13
3 Man City 13 7 1 5 16 15 22 1 17
4 Arsenal 12 6 3 3 27 18 21 9 15
5 Sheffield Wed. 13 6 3 4 23 16 21 7 18
6 Coventry City 13 6 2 5 16 12 20 4 19
7 Crystal Palace 12 6 2 4 22 24 20 -2 16
8 Aston Villa 13 5 3 5 18 14 18 4 21
9 Chelsea 13 4 6 3 23 20 18 3 21
10 Liverpool 11 4 5 2 13 10 17 3 16
11 Wimbledon 13 5 2 6 21 20 17 1 22
12 Nottingham For 12 5 1 6 23 21 16 2 20
13 Tottenham Hotspur 10 5 1 4 17 15 16 2 14
14 Everton 13 4 4 5 19 18 16 1 23
15 Norwich City 13 3 7 3 15 17 16 -2 23
16 Oldham Athletic 12 4 3 5 19 19 15 0 21
17 Notts County 13 4 3 6 17 23 15 -6 24
18 West Ham Utd. 13 2 6 5 14 18 12 -4 27
19 QPR 13 2 6 5 11 20 12 -9 27
20 Southampton 13 2 4 7 10 21 10 -11 29
21 Luton Town 13 2 4 7 8 29 10 -21 29
22 Sheffield Utd. 13 2 3 8 18 28 9 -10 30
Al
|
13.93 | | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Mon Oct 28 1991 11:55 | 5 |
|
Missed the footy results on the telly yesterday. What happened this
weekend then ?
Adam.
|
13.94 | Leeds go top | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Oct 28 1991 12:19 | 4 |
| Leeds depose the Mancs at the top of Div 1, Man C are 3rd, the Arse
4th, Sheff Wed 3rd.
jb.
|
13.95 | Results & Table 25/10/91 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | I brake for coffee!! | Mon Oct 28 1991 12:48 | 39 |
| Arsenal 2 - 0 Notts County
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Wimbledon
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Chelsea
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Man City 3 - 2 Sheffield Utd.
Norwich City 1 - 0 Luton Town
Nottingham For 1 - 3 Southampton
QPR 3 - 1 Everton
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 2 Man Utd.
West Ham Utd. 2 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool 1 - 0 Coventry City
Table follows
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 14 8 5 1 25 12 29 13
2 Man Utd. 13 8 4 1 21 7 28 14
3 Man City 14 8 1 5 19 17 25 2
4 Arsenal 13 7 3 3 29 18 24 11
5 Sheffield Wed. 14 7 3 4 26 18 24 8
6 Aston Villa 14 6 3 5 20 15 21 5
7 Crystal Palace 13 6 3 4 22 24 21 -2
8 Liverpool 12 5 5 2 14 10 20 4
9 Coventry City 14 6 2 6 16 13 20 3
10 Chelsea 14 4 7 3 23 20 19 3
11 Norwich City 14 4 7 3 16 17 19 -1
12 Wimbledon 14 5 2 7 22 22 17 0
13 Tottenham Hotspur 11 5 1 5 18 17 16 1
14 Nottingham For 13 5 1 7 24 24 16 0
15 Everton 14 4 4 6 20 21 16 -1
16 Oldham Athletic 13 4 3 6 19 20 15 -1
17 West Ham Utd. 14 3 6 5 16 19 15 -3
18 QPR 14 3 6 5 14 21 15 -7
19 Notts County 14 4 3 7 17 25 15 -8
20 Southampton 14 3 4 7 13 22 13 -9
21 Luton Town 14 2 4 8 8 30 10 -22
22 Sheffield Utd. 14 2 3 9 20 31 9 -11
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13.96 | More Stats | ARRODS::SWANSON | | Mon Oct 28 1991 16:43 | 35 |
| Top League Scorers
Division 1
1. Lineker (Spurs) 13
2=. Bright (Palace) 10
2=. Wright (Arsenal) 10
4. Small (West Ham) 9
5=. Fashanu (Wimbledon) 8
5=. Smith (Arsenal) 8
7. Beardsley (Everton) 7
8= McClair (Man Utd) 6
8= Shearer(Southampton) 6
Division 2
1. Shearer (Swindon) 10
2. Speedie (Blackburn) 8
3=. Wilkinson (M'boro) 7
3=. Bull (Wolves) 7
5=. White (Swindon) 6
5=. Dublin (Cambeidge) 6
5=. ALDO (Tranmere) 6 - Shome mistake surely !!
8=. Peacock (Newcastle) 5
8=. Quinn (Newcastle) 5
8=. Foyle (Port Vale) 5
8=. Steel (Tranmere) 5
Division 3
1. Biggins (Stoke) 12
Division 4
1. Bull (Barnet) 12
|
13.97 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | Dances with Wilderbeasts | Sun Nov 03 1991 12:46 | 39 |
|
yesterday's results
Arsenal 0-1 West Ham 33,539
Small
Coventry 0-1 Chelsea 11,343
Le Saux
Liverpool 1-2 Crystal Palace 34,231
Hysen Gabbiadini
Thomas
Luton 0-1 Everton 8,022
Warzycha
Man Utd 2-0 Sheff Utd 42,942
Hoyland (OG)
Kanchelskis
Norwich 0-0 Nottm Forest 13,014
Notts Co 2-0 Oldham 7,634
Rideout
Johnson
QPR 0-1 Aston Villa 10,462
Yorke
Sheff Wed 0-0 Tottenham 31,573
Southampton 0-3 Man City 13,933
Quinn
Sheron
Gittens (OG)
Wimbledon 0-0 Leeds 7,025
|
13.98 | The Table.... | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | The Hit Man | Mon Nov 04 1991 12:39 | 25 |
| LEAGUE DIV 1
------------
PL W D L GF GA PTS GD
1 Manchester_United.... 14 9 4 1 23 7 31 16
2 Leeds_United......... 15 8 6 1 25 12 30 13
3 Manchester_City...... 15 9 1 5 22 17 28 5
4 Sheffield_Wednesday.. 15 7 4 4 26 18 25 8
5 Arsenal.............. 14 7 3 4 29 19 24 10
6 Aston_Villa.......... 15 7 3 5 21 15 24 6
7 Crystal_Palace....... 14 7 3 4 24 25 24 -1
8 Chelsea.............. 15 5 7 3 24 20 22 4
9 Liverpool............ 13 5 5 3 15 12 20 3
10 Coventry_City........ 15 6 2 7 16 14 20 2
11 Norwich_City......... 15 4 8 3 16 17 20 -1
12 Everton.............. 15 5 4 6 21 21 19 0
13 Wimbledon............ 15 5 3 7 22 22 18 0
14 West_Ham_United...... 15 4 6 5 17 19 18 -2
15 Notts_County......... 15 5 3 7 19 25 18 -6
16 Tottenham_Hotspur.... 12 5 2 5 18 17 17 1
17 Nottingham_Forest.... 14 5 2 7 24 24 17 0
18 Oldham_Athletic...... 14 4 3 7 19 22 15 -3
19 QPR.................. 15 3 6 6 14 21 15 -7
20 Southampton.......... 15 3 4 8 13 25 13 -12
21 Luton_Town........... 15 2 4 9 8 31 10 -23
22 Sheffield_United..... 15 2 3 10 20 33 9 -13
|
13.99 | title | CASEE::CIOT | | Mon Nov 04 1991 15:29 | 10 |
| Can the author or the moderator change the base note title to :
England League 91/92
This will make it easier to retreive the note with a dir/tit and will
make it "standart to the other notes.
Thanks, Thierry.
PS: forwarded to author.
|
13.100 | Luton finally where they belong!!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | I brake for coffee!! | Mon Nov 18 1991 12:54 | 51 |
| From memory, Please indicate any errors:
Al
Barclays League Division 1 , Sat 16 Nov 1991
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Notts County
Chelsea 0 - 3 Norwich City
Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Southampton
Everton 2 - 0 Wimbledon
Leeds Utd. 2 - 0 QPR
Man City 0 - 0 Man Utd.
Nottingham For 1 - 0 Coventry City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 1 Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur 4 - 1 Luton Town
Barclays League Division 1 , Sun 17 Nov 1991
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
West Ham Utd. 0 - 0 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 16 9 6 1 27 12 33 15
2 Man Utd. 15 9 5 1 23 7 32 16
3 Man City 16 9 2 5 22 17 29 5
4 Aston Villa 16 8 3 5 22 15 27 7
5 Crystal Palace 15 8 3 4 26 25 27 1
6 Arsenal 15 7 4 4 30 20 25 10
7 Sheffield Wed. 16 7 4 5 26 20 25 6
8 Norwich City 16 5 8 3 19 17 23 2
9 Everton 16 6 4 6 23 21 22 2
10 Chelsea 16 5 7 4 24 23 22 1
11 Liverpool 14 5 6 3 15 12 21 3
12 Tottenham Hotspur 13 6 2 5 22 18 20 4
13 Nottingham For 15 6 2 7 25 24 20 1
14 Coventry City 16 6 2 8 16 15 20 1
15 West Ham Utd. 16 4 7 5 17 19 19 -2
16 Wimbledon 16 5 3 8 22 24 18 -2
17 Notts County 16 5 3 8 19 26 18 -7
18 Oldham Athletic 15 4 4 7 20 23 16 -3
19 QPR 16 3 6 7 14 23 15 -9
20 Southampton 16 3 4 9 13 27 13 -14
21 Sheffield Utd. 16 3 3 10 22 33 12 -11
22 Luton Town 16 2 4 10 9 35 10 -26
|
13.101 | | YUPPY::PANES | Stuart Panes @U.S.M | Mon Nov 18 1991 13:28 | 25 |
| <<< Note 13.100 by FORTY2::ROBERTSON "I brake for coffee!!" >>>
-< Luton finally where they belong!!! >-
From memory, Please indicate any errors:
Al
Barclays League Division 1 , Sat 16 Nov 1991
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Notts County
Chelsea 0 - 3 Norwich City
Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Southampton
^
Everton 2 - 0 Wimbledon
Leeds Utd. 2 - 0 QPR
Man City 0 - 0 Man Utd.
Nottingham For 1 - 0 Coventry City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 1 Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur 4 - 1 Luton Town
Barclays League Division 1 , Sun 17 Nov 1991
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
West Ham Utd. 0 - 0 Liverpool
|
13.102 | Monday Morning Blues!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | I brake for coffee!! | Mon Nov 18 1991 14:44 | 34 |
| Thanks Stuart,
My fingers think it's still the weekend, Here's the updated table:
Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Southampton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 16 9 6 1 27 12 33 15
2 Man Utd. 15 9 5 1 23 7 32 16
3 Man City 16 9 2 5 22 17 29 5
4 Aston Villa 16 8 3 5 22 15 27 7
5 Crystal Palace 15 8 3 4 25 25 27 0
6 Arsenal 15 7 4 4 30 20 25 10
7 Sheffield Wed. 16 7 4 5 26 20 25 6
8 Norwich City 16 5 8 3 19 17 23 2
9 Everton 16 6 4 6 23 21 22 2
10 Chelsea 16 5 7 4 24 23 22 1
11 Liverpool 14 5 6 3 15 12 21 3
12 Tottenham Hotspur 13 6 2 5 22 18 20 4
13 Nottingham For 15 6 2 7 25 24 20 1
14 Coventry City 16 6 2 8 16 15 20 1
15 West Ham Utd. 16 4 7 5 17 19 19 -2
16 Wimbledon 16 5 3 8 22 24 18 -2
17 Notts County 16 5 3 8 19 26 18 -7
18 Oldham Athletic 15 4 4 7 20 23 16 -3
19 QPR 16 3 6 7 14 23 15 -9
20 Southampton 16 3 4 9 13 26 13 -13
21 Sheffield Utd. 16 3 3 10 22 33 12 -11
22 Luton Town 16 2 4 10 9 35 10 -26
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13.103 | Good news for all! | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | VA - the SFCP Migration from HELL | Tue Nov 19 1991 02:42 | 11 |
| Re .100,
Good news about luton - congrats to Sheff U.
anyone know where luton's last game in Div 1 is? Surely we should
organise a notes file outing (should double their crowd) in may
to bid them farewell.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.104 | Dual Relegation | PANIC::ANDERSON | The 'Pies have gone cold | Wed Nov 20 1991 11:55 | 7 |
| Andrew,
It's scheduled to be at Meadow Lane, Nottingham on May 2nd.
Rob
(...and if a dozen noters turn up, it will double the crowd :-)
|
13.105 | Magnusson to Chelsea? | TOTH::CHAVES | Alegria de pobre dura pouco | Wed Nov 20 1991 16:13 | 4 |
| According to a newspaper report Chelsea wants Benfica' Magnusson.
Has this been reported in England?
JC
|
13.106 | Results from 23rd/24th Nov | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | I brake for coffee!! | Mon Nov 25 1991 12:18 | 45 |
| Sat 23rd
Everton 1 - 0 Notts County
Luton Town 2 - 2 Man City
Man Utd. 2 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Norwich City 3 - 2 Coventry City
Nottingham For 5 - 1 Crystal Palace
QPR 1 - 3 Oldham Athletic
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Arsenal
Southampton 1 - 0 Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Wimbledon 0 - 0 Liverpool
Sun 24th
Aston Villa 1 - 4 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 17 10 6 1 31 13 36 18
2 Man Utd. 16 10 5 1 25 8 35 17
3 Man City 17 9 3 5 24 19 30 5
4 Aston Villa 17 8 3 6 23 19 27 4
5 Crystal Palace 16 8 3 5 26 30 27 -4
6 Arsenal 16 7 5 4 31 21 26 10
7 Sheffield Wed. 17 7 5 5 27 21 26 6
8 Norwich City 17 6 8 3 22 19 26 3
9 Everton 17 7 4 6 24 21 25 3
10 Nottingham For 16 7 2 7 30 25 23 5
11 Liverpool 15 5 7 3 15 12 22 3
12 Chelsea 17 5 7 5 24 24 22 0
13 Tottenham Hotspur 14 6 2 6 22 19 20 3
14 Coventry City 17 6 2 9 18 18 20 0
15 Oldham Athletic 16 5 4 7 23 24 19 -1
16 Wimbledon 17 5 4 8 22 24 19 -2
17 West Ham Utd. 17 4 7 6 18 21 19 -3
18 Notts County 17 5 3 9 19 27 18 -8
19 Southampton 17 4 4 9 14 26 16 -12
20 Sheffield Utd. 17 4 3 10 23 33 15 -10
21 QPR 17 3 6 8 15 26 15 -11
22 Luton Town 17 2 5 10 11 37 11 -26
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13.107 | Results & table from Nov 30/Dec 1 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Mon Dec 02 1991 13:12 | 40 |
| Sat Nov 30
Chelsea 1 - 0 Nottingham For
Coventry City 2 - 0 Southampton
Crystal Palace 1 - 3 Man Utd.
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 Everton
Liverpool 2 - 1 Norwich City
Man City 0 - 0 Wimbledon
Notts County 0 - 1 QPR
Oldham Athletic 3 - 2 Aston Villa
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 1 Luton Town
West Ham Utd. 1 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Sun Dec 1
Arsenal 2 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
1 Leeds Utd. 18 11 6 1 32 13 39 19
2 Man Utd. 17 11 5 1 28 9 38 19
3 Man City 18 9 4 5 24 19 31 5
4 Arsenal 17 8 5 4 33 21 29 12
5 Sheffield Wed. 18 8 5 5 29 22 29 7
6 Aston Villa 18 8 3 7 25 22 27 3
7 Crystal Palace 17 8 3 6 27 33 27 -6
8 Norwich City 18 6 8 4 23 21 26 2
9 Liverpool 16 6 7 3 17 13 25 4
10 Everton 18 7 4 7 24 22 25 2
11 Chelsea 18 6 7 5 25 24 25 1
12 Nottingham For 17 7 2 8 30 26 23 4
13 Coventry City 18 7 2 9 20 18 23 2
14 Oldham Athletic 17 6 4 7 26 26 22 0
15 Tottenham Hotspur 15 6 2 7 22 21 20 1
16 Wimbledon 18 5 5 8 22 24 20 -2
17 West Ham Utd. 18 4 7 7 19 23 19 -4
18 Notts County 18 5 3 10 19 28 18 -9
19 QPR 18 4 6 8 16 26 18 -10
20 Sheffield Utd. 18 4 4 10 24 34 16 -10
21 Southampton 18 4 4 10 14 28 16 -14
22 Luton Town 18 2 6 10 12 38 12 -26
|
13.108 | Results & Table 7/8th Dec | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Mon Dec 09 1991 12:22 | 45 |
| Saturday 7th Dec 1991
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Man City
Everton 4 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Luton Town 0 - 2 Leeds Utd.
Man Utd. 4 - 0 Coventry City
Norwich City 3 - 3 Crystal Palace
QPR 1 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 0 Chelsea
Southampton 1 - 1 Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur 2 - 1 Notts County
Wimbledon 2 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Sunday 8th Dec 1991
Nottingham For 3 - 2 Arsenal
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 19 12 6 1 34 13 42 21
2 Man Utd. 18 12 5 1 32 9 41 23
3 Sheffield Wed. 19 9 5 5 32 22 32 10
4 Man City 19 9 4 6 25 22 31 3
5 Aston Villa 19 9 3 7 28 23 30 5
6 Arsenal 18 8 5 5 35 24 29 11
7 Everton 19 8 4 7 28 22 28 6
8 Crystal Palace 18 8 4 6 30 36 28 -6
9 Norwich City 19 6 9 4 26 24 27 2
10 Nottingham For 18 8 2 8 33 28 26 5
11 Liverpool 17 6 8 3 18 14 26 4
12 Chelsea 19 6 7 6 25 27 25 -2
13 Tottenham Hotspur 16 7 2 7 24 22 23 2
14 Wimbledon 19 6 5 8 24 25 23 -1
15 Coventry City 19 7 2 10 20 22 23 -2
16 Oldham Athletic 18 6 4 8 27 28 22 -1
17 QPR 19 5 6 8 17 26 21 -9
18 West Ham Utd. 19 4 7 8 19 27 19 -8
19 Notts County 19 5 3 11 20 30 18 -10
20 Southampton 19 4 5 10 15 29 17 -14
21 Sheffield Utd. 19 4 4 11 24 35 16 -11
22 Luton Town 19 2 6 11 12 40 12 -28
|
13.109 | Results & Table 14/15th Dec - Man Utd back on top | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Dec 16 1991 13:08 | 44 |
| Saturday 14th Dec.
Arsenal off Norwich City
Coventry City off Sheffield Wed.
Leeds Utd. 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool 2 - 0 Nottingham For
Man City 2 - 2 QPR
Notts County off Wimbledon
Oldham Athletic 2 - 2 Everton
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 0 Aston Villa
West Ham Utd off Southampton
Sunday 15th Dec.
Chelsea 1 - 3 Man Utd.
Crystal Palace off Luton Town
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 19 13 5 1 35 10 44 25
2 Leeds Utd. 20 12 7 1 35 14 43 21
3 Sheffield Wed. 19 9 5 5 32 22 32 10
4 Man City 20 9 5 6 27 24 32 3
5 Aston Villa 20 9 3 8 28 25 30 3
6 Arsenal 18 8 5 5 35 24 29 11
7 Liverpool 18 7 8 3 20 14 29 6
8 Everton 20 8 5 7 30 24 29 6
9 Crystal Palace 18 8 4 6 30 36 28 -6
10 Norwich City 19 6 9 4 26 24 27 2
11 Nottingham For 19 8 2 9 33 30 26 3
12 Chelsea 20 6 7 7 26 30 25 -4
13 Tottenham Hotspur 17 7 3 7 25 23 24 2
14 Oldham Athletic 19 6 5 8 29 30 23 -1
15 Wimbledon 19 6 5 8 24 25 23 -1
16 Coventry City 19 7 2 10 20 22 23 -2
17 QPR 20 5 7 8 19 28 22 -9
18 West Ham Utd. 19 4 7 8 19 27 19 -8
19 Sheffield Utd. 20 5 4 11 26 35 19 -9
20 Notts County 19 5 3 11 20 30 18 -10
21 Southampton 19 4 5 10 15 29 17 -14
22 Luton Town 19 2 6 11 12 40 12 -28
|
13.110 | mr. Pedantic speaks out | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Paul Wattersons love-child | Mon Dec 16 1991 13:14 | 5 |
| dont wanna be pedantic, but Everton are above Liverpool on the
grounds that theyve scored more goals than us...
Thanks,
Ian.
|
13.111 | Liverpool drop a place !!!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Dec 16 1991 16:08 | 37 |
| Thanks Ian,
Just found the bug in the program. shouldn't happen again.
Here is the updated table
Al
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 19 13 5 1 35 10 44 25
2 Leeds Utd. 20 12 7 1 35 14 43 21
3 Sheffield Wed. 19 9 5 5 32 22 32 10
4 Man City 20 9 5 6 27 24 32 3
5 Aston Villa 20 9 3 8 28 25 30 3
6 Arsenal 18 8 5 5 35 24 29 11
7 Everton 20 8 5 7 30 24 29 6
8 Liverpool 18 7 8 3 20 14 29 6
9 Crystal Palace 18 8 4 6 30 36 28 -6
10 Norwich City 19 6 9 4 26 24 27 2
11 Nottingham For 19 8 2 9 33 30 26 3
12 Chelsea 20 6 7 7 26 30 25 -4
13 Tottenham Hotspur 17 7 3 7 25 23 24 2
14 Oldham Athletic 19 6 5 8 29 30 23 -1
15 Wimbledon 19 6 5 8 24 25 23 -1
16 Coventry City 19 7 2 10 20 22 23 -2
17 QPR 20 5 7 8 19 28 22 -9
18 West Ham Utd. 19 4 7 8 19 27 19 -8
19 Sheffield Utd. 20 5 4 11 26 35 19 -9
20 Notts County 19 5 3 11 20 30 18 -10
21 Southampton 19 4 5 10 15 29 17 -14
22 Luton Town 19 2 6 11 12 40 12 -28
|
13.112 | tell me more | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | NOT Paul Wattersons love child | Mon Dec 16 1991 17:10 | 3 |
| program?
Ian.
|
13.113 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Dec 16 1991 18:16 | 10 |
| Ian,
I rustled up a little program in 'C' a couple of months back.
I put in the scores, it works out the table, and dumps both to an output
file, which I enter into Notes.
It beats entering the table manually every Monday morning :-)
Al
|
13.114 | Liverpool go 4th | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Thu Dec 19 1991 13:44 | 30 |
| Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 2 Liverpool
Walsh 23 Saunders 28
Houghton 80
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 19 13 5 1 35 10 44 25
2 Leeds Utd. 20 12 7 1 35 14 43 21
3 Sheffield Wed. 19 9 5 5 32 22 32 10
4 Liverpool 19 8 8 3 22 15 32 7
5 Man City 20 9 5 6 27 24 32 3
6 Aston Villa 20 9 3 8 28 25 30 3
7 Arsenal 18 8 5 5 35 24 29 11
8 Everton 20 8 5 7 30 24 29 6
9 Crystal Palace 18 8 4 6 30 36 28 -6
10 Norwich City 19 6 9 4 26 24 27 2
11 Nottingham For 19 8 2 9 33 30 26 3
12 Chelsea 20 6 7 7 26 30 25 -4
13 Tottenham Hotspur 18 7 3 8 26 25 24 1
14 Oldham Athletic 19 6 5 8 29 30 23 -1
15 Wimbledon 19 6 5 8 24 25 23 -1
16 Coventry City 19 7 2 10 20 22 23 -2
17 QPR 20 5 7 8 19 28 22 -9
18 West Ham Utd. 19 4 7 8 19 27 19 -8
19 Sheffield Utd. 20 5 4 11 26 35 19 -9
20 Notts County 19 5 3 11 20 30 18 -10
21 Southampton 19 4 5 10 15 29 17 -14
22 Luton Town 19 2 6 11 12 40 12 -28
|
13.115 | Attacking stats 19/12/1991 | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | its a monster!!! | Thu Dec 19 1991 15:12 | 41 |
| A few stats based on attacking and defending...
unfortunately i havent got the division tables for home and away
matches so i cant work out the stats for home and away performance.
might do that next week.
The tables are basedd on number of goals scored divided by the number
of games played for the attacking table, and number of goals conceded
etc... for defending.
ATTACKING
---------
TEAM MP GS AVE
1. Arsenal 18 35 1.94
2. Man Utd. 19 35 1.84
3. Leeds 20 35 1.75
4. Nottm Forest 19 33 1.74
5. Sheff Weds 19 32 1.68
6. Crystal Palace 18 30 1.67
7. Oldham 19 29 1.53
8. Everton 20 30 1.50
9. Spurs 18 26 1.44
10.Aston Villa 20 28 1.40
11.Norwich 19 26 1.37
12.Man City 20 27 1.35
13.Chelsea 20 26 1.30 (won more games)
14.Sheffield Utd 20 26 1.30
15.Wimbledon 19 24 1.26
16.Liverpool 19 22 1.16
17.Coventry 19 20 1.05
18.Notts County 19 20 1.05
19.West Ham 19 19 1.00
20.QPR 20 19 0.95
21.Southampton 19 15 0.79
22.Luton 19 12 0.63
as you can see, Liverpool not doing too well in the attacking stakes...
however, lets see what happens on defence...
Ian.
|
13.116 | Defensive stats 19-12-1991 | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | its a monster!!! | Thu Dec 19 1991 15:51 | 36 |
|
DEFENSE
-------
TEAM MP GC AVE
1. Man Utd. 19 10 0.53
2. Leeds 20 14 0.70
3. Liverpool 19 15 0.79
4. Sheff Weds 19 22 1.16
5. Coventry City 19 22 1.16
6. Man City. 20 24 1.20
7. Everton 20 24 1.20
8. Aston Villa 20 25 1.25
9. Norwich 19 24 1.26
10.Wimbledon 19 25 1.32
11.Arsenal 18 24 1.33
12.Spurs 18 25 1.39
13.QPR 20 28 1.40
14.West Ham 19 27 1.42
15.Chelsea 20 30 1.50
16.Southampton 19 29 1.53
17.Notts Forest 19 30 1.58
18.Oldham 19 30 1.58
19.Notts County 19 30 1.58
20.Sheff Utd 20 35 1.75
21.Crystal Palace 18 36 2.00
22.Luton Town 19 40 2.11
a couple of suprises here, Arsenal have conceded quite a few, whilst
Coventry seem to be very good defensively.
Ian.
|
13.117 | Final stats for 19-12-1991 | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | its a monster!!! | Thu Dec 19 1991 16:45 | 39 |
|
when you divide the offensive average and the defensive average,
you can get this final table which shows clearly how the teams are
faring altogether, since the season began...
the table clearly shows that Man Utd, Leeds and Liverpool have been the
top 3 teams so far, with Man Utd runaway leaders. considering
Liverpools offensive stat, i was very suprised that they were 3rd best
in the division altogether. However it IS very close between them,
arsenal and Sheff weds for 3rd place.
TEAM FINAL AVE
1. Man Utd. 3.47
2. Leeds 2.50
3. Liverpool 1.47
4. Arsenal 1.46
5. Sheff Weds 1.45
6. Everton 1.25
7. Man City 1.125
8. Aston Villa 1.12
9. Notts Forest 1.10
10.Norwich 1.09
11.Spurs 1.04
12.Oldham 0.97
13.Wimbledon 0.95
14.Coventry 0.91
15.Chelsea 0.87
16.Crystal Palace 0.835
17.Sheff Utd. 0.74
18.West Ham 0.70
19.QPR 0.68
20.Notts County 0.66
21.Southampton 0.52
22.Luton Town 0.30
Thanks,
Ian.
|
13.118 | Boxing Day Results | CASEE::MERRICK | Tis the season to be jelly | Fri Dec 27 1991 10:12 | 38 |
| From VNS:
::: FOOTBALL
Boxing Day Results...
Barclays League Division 1
--------------------------
Aston Villa ........ 3 West Ham United .... 1
Everton ............ 0 Sheffield Wednesday 1
Leeds United ....... 3 Southampton ........ 3
Luton Town ......... 1 Arsenal ............ 0
Manchester City ... 2 Norwich City ....... 1
Notts County ....... 2 Chelsea ............ 0
Oldham Athletic .... 3 Manchester United .. 6
Queen's Park Rangers 0 Liverpool .......... 0
Sheffield United ... 0 Coventry City ..... 3
Tottenham Hotspur .. 1 Nottingham Forest .. 2
Wimbledon .......... 1 Crytsal Palacae .... 1
Barclays League Division 2
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Barsnley ........... 0 Port Vale .......... 0
Bristol City ....... 1 Swindon Town ....... 1
Cambridge United ... 1 Plymouth Argyle .... 1
Derby County ....... 0 Grimsby Town ....... 0
Ipswich Town ....... 2 Charlton Athletic .. 0
Leicester City ..... 2 Brighton ........... 1
Millwall ........... 0 Hull City .......... 4
Newcastle United ... 0 Middlesbrough ...... 1
Oxford United ...... 0 Southend United .... 1
Portsmouth ......... 2 Bristol Rovers ..... 0
Tranmere Rovers .... 1 Sunderland ......... 0
Wolverhampton Wndrs 0 Blackburn Rovers ... 0
|
13.119 | Results | QETOO::CHAVES | | Mon Dec 30 1991 17:16 | 31 |
|
From VNS:
Barclays League Division 1
Aston Villa ........ 2 Southampton ....... 1
Everton ............ 1 Liverpool ......... 1
Leeds United ....... 1 Manchester Utd .... 1
Luton Town ......... 2 Chelsea ........... 0
Manchester City .... 1 Arsenal ........... 0
Notts County ....... 3 West Ham United .. 0
Oldham Athletic .... 2 Nottingham Forest . 1
Queen's Park Rangers 1 Sheffield Wednesday 1
Sheffield United ... 1 Crystal Palace .... 1
Tottenham Hotspur .. 3 Norwich City ...... 0
Wimbledon .......... 1 Coventry City ..... 1
Barclays League Division 2
Barnsley ........... 1 Swindon Town ...... 1
Bristol City ....... 3 Port Vale ......... 0
Cambridge United ... 0 Watford ........... 1
Derby County ....... 1 Charlton Athletic . 2
Ipswich Town ....... 2 Blackburn Rovers .. 1
Leicester City ..... 2 Southend United ... 0
Millwall ........... 2 Plymouth Argyle ... 1
Newcastle United ... 2 Bristol Rovers .... 1
Oxford United ...... 3 Sunderland ........ 0
Portsmouth ......... 4 Middlesbrough ..... 0
Tranmere Rovers .... 1 Grimsby Town ...... 1
Wolverhampton Wndrs 2 Brighton & H.A. ... 0
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13.120 | Results 20/21/22-Dec | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Thu Jan 02 1992 14:49 | 46 |
|
20th Dec 1991
Luton Town 1 - 0 Coventry City
Southampton 1 - 1 Notts County
21st Dec 1991
Arsenal 4 - 2 Everton
Chelsea 4 - 2 Oldham Athletic
Liverpool 2 - 2 Man City
Norwich City 0 - 1 QPR
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 0 Wimbledon
West Ham Utd. 1 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
22nd Dec 1991
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Nottingham For 0 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 19 13 5 1 35 10 44 25
2 Leeds Utd. 21 12 8 1 35 14 44 21
3 Sheffield Wed. 20 10 5 5 34 22 35 12
4 Liverpool 20 8 9 3 24 17 33 7
5 Man City 21 9 6 6 29 26 33 3
6 Arsenal 19 9 5 5 39 26 32 13
7 Aston Villa 20 9 3 8 28 25 30 3
8 Everton 21 8 5 8 32 28 29 4
9 Chelsea 21 7 7 7 30 32 28 -2
10 Crystal Palace 19 8 4 7 31 38 28 -7
11 Nottingham For 20 8 3 9 33 30 27 3
12 Tottenham Hotspur 19 8 3 8 28 26 27 2
13 Norwich City 20 6 9 5 26 25 27 1
14 QPR 21 6 7 8 20 28 25 -8
15 Oldham Athletic 20 6 5 9 31 34 23 -3
16 Wimbledon 20 6 5 9 24 27 23 -3
17 Coventry City 20 7 2 11 20 23 23 -3
18 West Ham Utd. 20 4 8 8 20 28 20 -8
19 Sheffield Utd. 21 5 5 11 27 36 20 -9
20 Notts County 20 5 4 11 21 31 19 -10
21 Southampton 20 4 6 10 16 30 18 -14
22 Luton Town 20 3 6 11 13 40 15 -27
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13.121 | Table From Boxing Day | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Thu Jan 02 1992 14:51 | 26 |
| The Results are in 13.118
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 20 14 5 1 41 13 47 28
2 Leeds Utd. 22 12 9 1 38 17 45 21
3 Sheffield Wed. 21 11 5 5 35 22 38 13
4 Man City 22 10 6 6 31 27 36 4
5 Liverpool 21 8 10 3 24 17 34 7
6 Aston Villa 21 10 3 8 31 26 33 5
7 Arsenal 20 9 5 6 39 27 32 12
8 Nottingham For 21 9 3 9 35 31 30 4
9 Everton 22 8 5 9 32 29 29 3
10 Crystal Palace 20 8 5 7 32 39 29 -7
11 Chelsea 22 7 7 8 30 34 28 -4
12 Tottenham Hotspur 20 8 3 9 29 28 27 1
13 Norwich City 21 6 9 6 27 27 27 0
14 Coventry City 21 8 2 11 23 23 26 0
15 QPR 22 6 8 8 20 28 26 -8
16 Wimbledon 21 6 6 9 25 28 24 -3
17 Oldham Athletic 21 6 5 10 34 40 23 -6
18 Notts County 21 6 4 11 23 31 22 -8
19 West Ham Utd. 21 4 8 9 21 31 20 -10
20 Sheffield Utd. 22 5 5 12 27 39 20 -12
21 Southampton 21 4 7 10 19 33 19 -14
22 Luton Town 21 4 6 11 14 40 18 -26
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13.122 | Results from 28/29 Dec | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Thu Jan 02 1992 14:53 | 42 |
| 28th Dec 1991
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Southampton
Everton 1 - 1 Liverpool
Luton Town 2 - 0 Chelsea
Man City 1 - 0 Arsenal
Notts County 3 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Oldham Athletic 2 - 1 Nottingham For
QPR 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 0 Norwich City
Wimbledon 1 - 1 Coventry City
29th Dec 1991
Leeds Utd. 1 - 1 Man Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 21 14 6 1 42 14 48 28
2 Leeds Utd. 23 12 10 1 39 18 46 21
3 Sheffield Wed. 22 11 6 5 36 23 39 13
4 Man City 23 11 6 6 32 27 39 5
5 Aston Villa 22 11 3 8 33 27 36 6
6 Liverpool 22 8 11 3 25 18 35 7
7 Arsenal 21 9 5 7 39 28 32 11
8 Tottenham Hotspur 21 9 3 9 32 28 30 4
9 Nottingham For 22 9 3 10 36 33 30 3
10 Everton 23 8 6 9 33 30 30 3
11 Crystal Palace 21 8 6 7 33 40 30 -7
12 Chelsea 23 7 7 9 30 36 28 -6
13 Coventry City 22 8 3 11 24 24 27 0
14 Norwich City 22 6 9 7 27 30 27 -3
15 QPR 23 6 9 8 21 29 27 -8
16 Oldham Athletic 22 7 5 10 36 41 26 -5
17 Wimbledon 22 6 7 9 26 29 25 -3
18 Notts County 22 7 4 11 26 31 25 -5
19 Sheffield Utd. 23 5 6 12 28 40 21 -12
20 Luton Town 22 5 6 11 16 40 21 -24
21 West Ham Utd. 22 4 8 10 21 34 20 -13
22 Southampton 22 4 7 11 20 35 19 -15
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13.123 | New Years Day Results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Thu Jan 02 1992 14:54 | 44 |
| Arsenal 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Chelsea 1 - 1 Man City
Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Notts County
Liverpool 2 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Man Utd. 1 - 4 QPR
Norwich City 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham For 1 - 1 Luton Town
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Southampton 1 - 2 Everton
West Ham Utd. 1 - 3 Leeds Utd.
Coventry City 1 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 24 13 10 1 42 19 49 23
2 Man Utd. 22 14 6 2 43 18 48 25
3 Sheffield Wed. 23 11 7 5 37 24 40 13
4 Man City 24 11 7 6 33 28 40 5
5 Liverpool 23 9 11 3 27 19 38 8
6 Aston Villa 23 11 3 9 34 29 36 5
7 Arsenal 22 9 6 7 40 29 33 11
8 Tottenham Hotspur 22 10 3 9 34 29 33 5
9 Everton 24 9 6 9 35 31 33 4
10 Crystal Palace 22 9 6 7 34 40 33 -6
11 Nottingham For 23 9 4 10 37 34 31 3
12 Norwich City 23 7 9 7 29 31 30 -2
13 QPR 24 7 9 8 25 30 30 -5
14 Chelsea 24 7 8 9 31 37 29 -6
15 Coventry City 23 8 3 12 25 26 27 -1
16 Oldham Athletic 23 7 6 10 37 42 27 -5
17 Wimbledon 23 6 8 9 27 30 26 -3
18 Notts County 23 7 4 12 26 32 25 -6
19 Luton Town 23 5 7 11 17 41 22 -24
20 Sheffield Utd. 24 5 6 13 29 42 21 -13
21 West Ham Utd. 23 4 8 11 22 37 20 -15
22 Southampton 23 4 7 12 21 37 19 -16
Happy New Year to all Noters
Al
|
13.124 | stats for the new year | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | prophet of Mu Mu | Thu Jan 02 1992 16:06 | 84 |
|
New Year stats for the first division...
Attack
------
1.Man Utd 1.95
2.Arsenal 1.82
3.Leeds United 1.75
4.Sheff Weds 1.61
5.Nottm Forest 1.61
6.Oldham 1.61
7.Spurs 1.55
8.Crystal Palace 1.55
9.Aston Villa 1.48
10.Everton 1.46
11.Man City 1.37
12.Chelsea 1.29
13.Norwich 1.26
14.Sheffield Utd 1.21
15.Liverpool 1.17
16.Wimbledon 1.17
17.Notts Co. 1.13
18.Coventry 1.09
19.QPR 1.04
20.West Ham 0.96
21.Southampton 0.91
22.Luton Town 0.74
Defence
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1.Leeds United 0.79
2.Man Utd 0.82
3.Liverpool 0.83
4.Sheff Weds 1.04
5.Coventry City 1.13
6.Man City. 1.17
7.QPR 1.25
8.Aston Villa 1.26
9.Everton 1.29
10.Wimbledon 1.30
11.Spurs 1.32
12.Arsenal 1.32
13.Norwich City 1.35
14.Notts Co. 1.39
15.Nottm Forest 1.48
16.Chelsea 1.54
17.West Ham 1.61
18.Southampton 1.61
19.Sheffield Utd 1.75
20.Luton Town 1.78
21.Crystal Palace 1.82
22.Oldham 1.83
Overall
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1.Man Utd 2.38
2.Leeds United 2.22
3.Sheff Weds 1.55
4.Liverpool 1.41
5.Arsenal 1.38
6.Man City 1.18
7.Aston Villa 1.17
8.Spurs 1.17
9.Everton 1.13
10.Nottm Forest 1.09
11.Coventry City 0.96
12.Norwich City 0.93
13.Wimbledon 0.90
14.Oldham 0.88
15.Crystal Palace 0.85
16.Chelsea 0.84
17.QPR 0.83
18.Notts Co. 0.81
19.Sheffield Utd 0.69
20.West Ham 0.60
21.Southampton 0.57
22.Luton Town 0.42
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13.125 | Help required | FTCVAX::SMITHS | | Mon Jan 06 1992 14:22 | 8 |
| Could someone help please.
What was the result of the Exeter.v.W.B.A game on the saturday after
christmas.
thanks in advance
steve
|
13.126 | AYS | PANIC::ANDERSON | The 'Pies have gone cold | Thu Jan 09 1992 12:23 | 5 |
| Re : -1
Exeter City .. 1 West Bromwich Albion ..1
Rob
|
13.127 | thank you | FTCVAX::SMITHS | | Fri Jan 10 1992 15:16 | 4 |
| re.1
thanks
steve
|
13.128 | Results & Table 11/12 Jan | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Jan 13 1992 12:48 | 42 |
| Sat. 11 Jan 1992
Arsenal 0 - 0 Aston Villa
Chelsea 2 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Coventry City 2 - 2 QPR
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Man City
Liverpool 2 - 1 Luton Town
Man Utd. 1 - 0 Everton
Norwich City 1 - 2 Oldham Athletic
Nottingham For 1 - 1 Notts County
Southampton 2 - 4 Sheffield Utd.
West Ham Utd. 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Sun. 12 Jan 1992
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 6 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 25 14 10 1 48 20 52 28
2 Man Utd. 23 15 6 2 44 18 51 26
3 Liverpool 24 10 11 3 29 20 41 9
4 Man City 25 11 8 6 34 29 41 5
5 Sheffield Wed. 24 11 7 6 38 30 40 8
6 Aston Villa 24 11 4 9 34 29 37 5
7 Arsenal 23 9 7 7 40 29 34 11
8 Crystal Palace 23 9 7 7 35 41 34 -6
9 Everton 25 9 6 10 35 32 33 3
10 Tottenham Hotspur 23 10 3 10 34 31 33 3
11 Nottingham For 24 9 5 10 38 35 32 3
12 Chelsea 25 8 8 9 33 37 32 -4
13 QPR 25 7 10 8 27 32 31 -5
14 Norwich City 24 7 9 8 30 33 30 -3
15 Oldham Athletic 24 8 6 10 39 43 30 -4
16 Coventry City 24 8 4 12 27 28 28 -1
17 Wimbledon 24 6 9 9 28 31 27 -3
18 Notts County 24 7 5 12 27 33 26 -6
19 Sheffield Utd. 25 6 6 13 33 44 24 -11
20 Luton Town 24 5 7 12 18 43 22 -25
21 West Ham Utd. 24 4 9 11 23 38 21 -15
22 Southampton 24 4 7 13 23 41 19 -18
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13.129 | Results & Table 18/19 Jan '92 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Jan 20 1992 14:03 | 42 |
| Saturday 18th Jan 1992
Aston Villa 0 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Leeds Utd. 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Luton Town 0 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Man City 1 - 0 Coventry City
Notts County 1 - 1 Man Utd.
Oldham Athletic 2 - 3 Liverpool
QPR 0 - 0 Arsenal
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 0 Norwich City
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 2 Southampton
Wimbledon 1 - 2 Chelsea
Sunday 19th Jan 1992
Everton 1 - 1 Nottingham For
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 26 14 11 1 49 21 53 28
2 Man Utd. 24 15 7 2 45 19 52 26
3 Liverpool 25 11 11 3 32 22 44 10
4 Man City 26 12 8 6 35 29 44 6
5 Sheffield Wed. 25 12 7 6 39 30 43 9
6 Aston Villa 25 11 4 10 34 30 37 4
7 Arsenal 24 9 8 7 40 29 35 11
8 Chelsea 26 9 8 9 35 38 35 -3
9 Crystal Palace 24 9 8 7 36 42 35 -6
10 Everton 26 9 7 10 36 33 34 3
11 Nottingham For 25 9 6 10 39 36 33 3
12 Tottenham Hotspur 24 10 3 11 35 33 33 2
13 QPR 26 7 11 8 27 32 32 -5
14 Norwich City 25 7 9 9 30 34 30 -4
15 Oldham Athletic 25 8 6 11 41 46 30 -5
16 Coventry City 25 8 4 13 27 29 28 -2
17 Wimbledon 25 6 9 10 29 33 27 -4
18 Notts County 25 7 6 12 28 34 27 -6
19 Sheffield Utd. 26 7 6 13 34 44 27 -10
20 West Ham Utd. 25 5 9 11 24 38 24 -14
21 Southampton 25 5 7 13 25 42 22 -17
22 Luton Town 25 5 7 13 18 44 22 -26
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13.130 | Leeds go back to 2nd | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Thu Jan 23 1992 19:58 | 8 |
| Man Utd. 1 - 0 Aston Villa
1 Man Utd. 25 16 7 2 46 19 55 27
2 Leeds Utd. 26 14 11 1 49 21 53 28
3 Liverpool 25 11 11 3 32 22 44 10
4 Man City 26 12 8 6 35 29 44 6
5 Sheffield Wed. 25 12 7 6 39 30 43 9
6 Aston Villa 26 11 4 11 34 31 37 3
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13.131 | Results & Table Feb 1/2 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Feb 03 1992 13:24 | 42 |
| Sat Feb 1 1992
Arsenal 1 - 1 Man Utd.
Crystal Palace 0 - 1 Coventry City
Leeds Utd. 3 - 0 Notts County
Liverpool 1 - 2 Chelsea
Man City 1 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Norwich City 2 - 1 Southampton
Nottingham For 2 - 5 Sheffield Utd.
QPR 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 2 Luton Town
West Ham Utd. 1 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Sun Feb 2 1992
Aston Villa 0 - 0 Everton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 27 15 11 1 52 21 56 31
2 Man Utd. 26 16 8 2 47 20 56 27
3 Liverpool 27 12 11 4 35 24 47 11
4 Man City 27 13 8 6 36 29 47 7
5 Sheffield Wed. 26 13 7 6 42 32 46 10
6 Aston Villa 27 11 5 11 34 31 38 3
7 Chelsea 27 10 8 9 37 39 38 -2
8 Arsenal 26 9 9 8 41 32 36 9
9 Everton 27 9 8 10 36 33 35 3
10 Crystal Palace 25 9 8 8 36 43 35 -7
11 Tottenham Hotspur 26 10 4 12 35 34 34 1
12 Nottingham For 26 9 6 11 41 41 33 0
13 Norwich City 26 8 9 9 32 35 33 -3
14 QPR 27 7 12 8 28 33 33 -5
15 Coventry City 26 9 4 13 28 29 31 -1
16 Oldham Athletic 27 8 7 12 41 47 31 -6
17 Sheffield Utd. 27 8 6 13 39 46 30 -7
18 Wimbledon 26 6 10 10 30 34 28 -4
19 Notts County 26 7 6 13 28 37 27 -9
20 West Ham Utd. 26 6 9 11 25 38 27 -13
21 Southampton 26 5 7 14 26 44 22 -18
22 Luton Town 26 5 7 14 20 47 22 -27
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13.132 | | AEO780::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Mon Feb 10 1992 16:48 | 8 |
|
Is Mr Robertson not in today ? !! Results and tables please someone ?
(Just for those of us who don't get an English paper until tonight !)
Cheers,
Ads.
|
13.133 | OK briefly,
OK briefly...
| ARRODS::SWANSON | | Mon Feb 10 1992 17:22 | 40 |
| Chelsea 1 Palace 1
Coventry C 0 Loonypool 0
Eversoboring 0 Raynes Park Queenies 0 (att 18,000 wow)
Luton 2 Norwich 0
Moancheaters United 0 Sheffield WED 0
NOTTS County 0 The Arse 1
Oldham 2 Leeds (Leeds Leeds) 0
Sheffield United 4 Man City 2
Wombles 2 Aston Villa 0
Table
P Pts
Man Utd 27 57
Leeds 28 56
Scouse 28 48
Wednesday 27 47
Man City 28 47
Arsenal 27 39
Chelsea 27 39
-----------------------
-----------------------
Coventry 27 32
Wimbledon 27 31
Notts Co. 27 27
West Ham 26 27
Luton 27 25
Soton 26 22
Hope this helps!!
|
13.134 | Results (at last) !!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Feb 10 1992 18:51 | 44 |
| Here are the results at last.
I've had a pretty busy morning
Al
Sat 8th Feb 1992
Chelsea 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Coventry City 0 - 0 Liverpool
Everton 0 - 0 QPR
Luton Town 2 - 0 Norwich City
Man Utd. 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Notts County 0 - 1 Arsenal
Oldham Athletic 2 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Sheffield Utd. 4 - 2 Man City
Wimbledon 1 - 0 Aston Villa ??? (-.1 cast some doubts)
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 27 16 9 2 48 21 57 27
2 Leeds Utd. 28 15 11 2 52 23 56 29
3 Liverpool 28 12 12 4 35 24 48 11
4 Sheffield Wed. 27 13 8 6 43 33 47 10
5 Man City 28 13 8 7 38 33 47 5
6 Arsenal 27 10 9 8 42 32 39 10
7 Chelsea 28 10 9 9 38 40 39 -2
8 Aston Villa 28 11 5 12 34 32 38 2
9 Everton 28 9 9 10 36 33 36 3
10 Crystal Palace 26 9 9 8 37 44 36 -7
11 Tottenham Hotspur 26 10 4 12 35 34 34 1
12 Oldham Athletic 28 9 7 12 43 47 34 -4
13 QPR 28 7 13 8 28 33 34 -5
14 Nottingham For 26 9 6 11 41 41 33 0
15 Sheffield Utd. 28 9 6 13 43 48 33 -5
16 Norwich City 27 8 9 10 32 37 33 -5
17 Coventry City 27 9 5 13 28 29 32 -1
18 Wimbledon 27 7 10 10 31 34 31 -3
19 Notts County 27 7 6 14 28 38 27 -10
20 West Ham Utd. 26 6 9 11 25 38 27 -13
21 Luton Town 27 6 7 14 22 47 25 -25
22 Southampton 26 5 7 14 26 44 22 -18
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13.135 | | ARRODS::SWANSON | | Mon Feb 10 1992 19:13 | 6 |
|
>>> Wimbledon 1 - 0 Aston Villa ??? (-.1 cast some doubts)
Independent had it as 2-0 but it could be a typo
(Thanks for the proper update)
|
13.136 | | YUPPY::PANES | Hippy daze is here again | Mon Feb 10 1992 19:15 | 15 |
| <<< Note 13.135 by ARRODS::SWANSON >>>
>>> Wimbledon 1 - 0 Aston Villa ??? (-.1 cast some doubts)
>Independent had it as 2-0 but it could be a typo
>(Thanks for the proper update)
It was 2-0 ( Fashanu, Phelan )
Stuo
|
13.137 | with corrections | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Feb 10 1992 19:24 | 41 |
| Thanks for the updates
Al
Sat 8th Feb 1992
Chelsea 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Coventry City 0 - 0 Liverpool
Everton 0 - 0 QPR
Luton Town 2 - 0 Norwich City
Man Utd. 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Notts County 0 - 1 Arsenal
Oldham Athletic 2 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Sheffield Utd. 4 - 2 Man City
Wimbledon 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 27 16 9 2 48 21 57 27
2 Leeds Utd. 28 15 11 2 52 23 56 29
3 Liverpool 28 12 12 4 35 24 48 11
4 Sheffield Wed. 27 13 8 6 43 33 47 10
5 Man City 28 13 8 7 38 33 47 5
6 Arsenal 27 10 9 8 42 32 39 10
7 Chelsea 28 10 9 9 38 40 39 -2
8 Aston Villa 28 11 5 12 34 33 38 1 *
9 Everton 28 9 9 10 36 33 36 3
10 Crystal Palace 26 9 9 8 37 44 36 -7
11 Tottenham Hotspur 26 10 4 12 35 34 34 1
12 Oldham Athletic 28 9 7 12 43 47 34 -4
13 QPR 28 7 13 8 28 33 34 -5
14 Nottingham For 26 9 6 11 41 41 33 0
15 Sheffield Utd. 28 9 6 13 43 48 33 -5
16 Norwich City 27 8 9 10 32 37 33 -5
17 Coventry City 27 9 5 13 28 29 32 -1
18 Wimbledon 27 7 10 10 32 34 31 -2 *
19 Notts County 27 7 6 14 28 38 27 -10
20 West Ham Utd. 26 6 9 11 25 38 27 -13
21 Luton Town 27 6 7 14 22 47 25 -25
22 Southampton 26 5 7 14 26 44 22 -18
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13.138 | Results & Table 15/16th Feb | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Feb 17 1992 15:04 | 42 |
| Arsenal 7 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Man City 4 - 0 Luton Town
Oldham Athletic 2 - 1 QPR
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 1 Crystal Palace
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 27 16 9 2 48 21 57 27
2 Leeds Utd. 28 15 11 2 52 23 56 29
3 Man City 29 14 8 7 42 33 50 9
4 Liverpool 28 12 12 4 35 24 48 11
5 Sheffield Wed. 28 13 8 7 44 40 47 4
6 Arsenal 29 11 10 8 50 34 43 16
7 Chelsea 29 10 10 9 39 41 40 -2
8 Crystal Palace 27 10 9 8 38 44 39 -6
9 Aston Villa 28 11 5 12 34 33 38 1
10 Oldham Athletic 29 10 7 12 45 48 37 -3
11 Everton 28 9 9 10 36 33 36 3
12 Tottenham Hotspur 27 10 4 13 35 35 34 0
13 Norwich City 28 8 10 10 33 38 34 -5
14 QPR 29 7 13 9 29 35 34 -6
15 Nottingham For 26 9 6 11 41 41 33 0
16 Sheffield Utd. 28 9 6 13 43 48 33 -5
17 Coventry City 27 9 5 13 28 29 32 -1
18 Wimbledon 27 7 10 10 32 34 31 -2
19 Notts County 27 7 6 14 28 38 27 -10
20 West Ham Utd. 26 6 9 11 25 38 27 -13
21 Luton Town 28 6 7 15 22 51 25 -29
22 Southampton 27 5 8 14 27 45 23 -18
Only 4 games this week due to th FA Cup 5th Round.
Arsenal made up for not winning at home since before Christmas. It was
1-1 after an hour, and then in a period of about 20 mins they put in 6, and
against a side that took 4 out of 6 points against Man U. this season!!!
Man City moved into 3rd spot after comfortably disposing of relegation
hopefuls Luton.
Al
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13.139 | Results & Table 22/23rd Feb | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Feb 24 1992 15:02 | 44 |
| I left my list at home again!!! Here's the scores from memory
Saturday 22nd Feb 1992
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Luton Town 2 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Man Utd. 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Norwich City 3 - 0 Liverpool
Nottingham For 1 - 1 Chelsea
QPR 1 - 1 Notts County
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Southampton 0 - 0 Coventry City
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Arsenal
Wimbledon 2 - 1 Man City
Sunday 23rd Feb 1992
Everton 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 28 17 9 2 50 21 60 29
2 Leeds Utd. 29 15 12 2 53 24 57 29
3 Man City 30 14 8 8 43 35 50 8
4 Sheffield Wed. 29 14 8 7 46 41 50 5
5 Liverpool 29 12 12 5 35 27 48 8
6 Arsenal 30 11 11 8 51 35 44 16
7 Aston Villa 29 12 5 12 35 33 41 2
8 Chelsea 30 10 11 9 40 42 41 -2
9 Crystal Palace 28 10 9 9 38 46 39 -8
10 Everton 29 9 10 10 37 34 37 3
11 Norwich City 29 9 10 10 36 38 37 -2
12 Oldham Athletic 30 10 7 13 45 49 37 -4
13 Tottenham Hotspur 28 10 5 13 36 36 35 0
14 QPR 30 7 14 9 30 36 35 -6
15 Nottingham For 27 9 7 11 42 42 34 0
16 Wimbledon 28 8 10 10 34 35 34 -1
17 Coventry City 28 9 6 13 28 29 33 -1
18 Sheffield Utd. 29 9 6 14 44 50 33 -6
19 Notts County 28 7 7 14 29 39 28 -10
20 Luton Town 29 7 7 15 24 52 28 -28
21 West Ham Utd. 27 6 9 12 26 40 27 -14
22 Southampton 28 5 9 14 27 45 24 -18
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13.140 | Maybe it's because I'm not human, that I love ... | TKOV33::HAIGH | He's gone to early! | Wed Feb 26 1992 14:55 | 13 |
|
Due to circumstances beyond my control it looks like I might have to
spend one of the next two weekends in London. And as somebody somewhere
mentioned the Rail link from London to Manchester does not make it worth my
while going to the North West. (Come to think of it any Rail link in Britain
instills a similar sense of dread...)
My questions are; which games are on in London this weekend 29/2 & 1/3?
(I know City are away at QPR the weekend after so at least there is some
consolation for being in London), and what are the live games for these 2
weekends?
Steve the cockney ;-)
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13.141 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | Still no Irish in Sweden | Wed Feb 26 1992 15:09 | 6 |
|
Steve,
Everton are at West 'Am on Saturday - bound to be another 0-0 draw....
Paul
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13.142 | Semi-Final | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Wed Feb 26 1992 15:31 | 6 |
13.143 | | PEKING::JOLLYL | | Wed Feb 26 1992 16:53 | 10 |
|
Steve,
29/2 see your secound favourite team.
go to Chelsea v Sheffeild Utd. and I'll let you buy me the beer you owe
me;-)
Loz.
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13.144 | Games for 29th Feb | IOSG::BUTTON | | Wed Feb 26 1992 17:22 | 10 |
|
Games for 29th Feb
Chelsea v Sheff Wed
West Ham v Everton
Palace v Norwich
Millwall v Leicester
Brentford v Stockport
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13.145 | Any live games on the 8/3/92? | TKOV33::HAIGH | He's gone to early! | Thu Feb 27 1992 11:18 | 20 |
|
Thanks for the info Gentlemen. Although I'll probably be in East
London and I've always liked the Hammers and the Toffees, I think I might
give that one a miss this year Paul! :-(
> 29/2 see your secound favourite team.
>
> go to Chelsea v Sheffeild Utd. and I'll let you buy me the beer you owe
> me;-)
Laurence! How are you? And how did you know that Sheffield United were
my second favourite team? (But isn't it Wednesday?) I've owed you that beer
for so long now, it would be a shame to give it you now! ;-)
Brentford v Stockport? Hmmm Stockput born an'bred me! They're not doing
badly either at the moment, although Vinnie Jones in the flesh might just sway
me! Errr by the way, where exactly is Brentford?
Steve
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13.146 | At the end of the M4 | IOSG::BUTTON | | Thu Feb 27 1992 18:07 | 11 |
|
Steve,
Brentford is in West London, near the end of the M4. I do not know the
nearest Tube station. I think the ground is called Griffin Park.
I've only been there once, dragged along by AIMTEC::WICKS_A to see
Cardiff play Hayes in an FA Cup replay. It was real brass-monkey
weather, but the post-match Fullers beer made up for that.
Jon
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13.147 | | PEKING::JOLLYL | | Fri Feb 28 1992 16:52 | 6 |
|
Steve (and a couple of others),
your right it is Wednesday on Saturday??????
Same town though, do I get half a point?
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13.148 | OLE OLE OLE OLE EAGLES EAGLES | SUBURB::WAITEG | GARY WAITE | Fri Feb 28 1992 17:26 | 11 |
| re A few back
Do yourself a favour and go and see Palace at home to Norwich.
Should be an exciting middle of the table clash.
Cheers
Gary
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13.149 | | COMICS::WATTERSON | One more mint Mr President ? | Sun Mar 01 1992 17:26 | 35 |
| Saturday's results....
Chelsea 0-3 Sheff Wed att 17,538
Coventry 0-0 Man Utd att 23,967
C. Palace 3-4 Norwich att 14,201
Leeds 2-0 Luton att 28,231
Liverpool 0-0 Southampton att 34,449
Man City 2-0 Aston Villa att 28,268
Oldham 0-1 Wimbledon att 12,166
Sheff Utd 0-0 QPR att 17,958
West Ham 0-2 Everon att 20,976
Big news of the day was at the third division game between Birmingham
and Stoke. Stoke scored an 89th minute equaliser, then Birmingham had a
shot cleared off the line. This was the signal for a number of
Birmingham supporters to invade the pitch, the police were unable to
contain these few, so many more joined in and they tried to attack the
Stoke supporters - the ref was also attacked. The players went off the
pitch and the match was apparently abandoned, however some 20 minutes
later, the last 30 seconds were played in a deserted stadium.
As usual the press are making a big thing out off the incident (and a
minor disturbance at the West Ham - Everton game where a number of West
Ham supporters held a protest in front of the directors box). The
league must act now and ban Birmingham from playing for the rest of the
season and relegate them into the fourth division - even if it's not
the club's fault, the moron's have got to suffer. If nothing's done
now, all the other moron's will reappear as quickly as they
disappeared.
Meanwhile, back at the football, Leeds closed the gap on jittery Man Utd
- Cantona and Chapman scored the goals to beat Luton. Gary Ablett
scored his first goal for Everton in the easy 2-0 win at West Ham.
Paul
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13.150 | Table ... | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Mar 02 1992 13:26 | 28 |
| Paul beat me to getting the results, but here is the table
Al
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 30 17 11 2 51 22 62 29
2 Leeds Utd. 30 16 12 2 55 24 60 31
3 Man City 31 15 8 8 45 35 53 10
4 Sheffield Wed. 30 15 8 7 49 41 53 8
5 Liverpool 30 12 13 5 35 27 49 8
6 Arsenal 30 11 11 8 51 35 44 16
7 Chelsea 32 10 12 10 41 46 42 -5
8 Aston Villa 30 12 5 13 35 35 41 0
9 Everton 30 10 10 10 39 34 40 5
10 Norwich City 30 10 10 10 40 41 40 -1
11 Crystal Palace 30 10 10 10 42 51 40 -9
12 Wimbledon 29 9 10 10 35 35 37 0
13 Oldham Athletic 31 10 7 14 45 50 37 -5
14 QPR 31 7 15 9 30 36 36 -6
15 Tottenham Hotspur 28 10 5 13 36 36 35 0
16 Nottingham For 27 9 7 11 42 42 34 0
17 Coventry City 29 9 7 13 28 29 34 -1
18 Sheffield Utd. 30 9 7 14 44 50 34 -6
19 Luton Town 31 7 8 16 25 55 29 -30
20 Notts County 28 7 7 14 29 39 28 -10
21 West Ham Utd. 28 6 9 13 26 42 27 -16
22 Southampton 29 5 10 14 27 45 25 -18
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13.151 | Not In A Relegation Slot....yet ! | PANIC::ANDERSON | The 'Pies have gone cold | Mon Mar 02 1992 14:55 | 7 |
| Al,
You seem to have missed last Tuesday night's result :
Notts County 1 Wimbledon 1
Rob
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13.152 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | That's me in the corner | Mon Mar 02 1992 15:30 | 24 |
| Thanks Rob,
You're right. I didn't see a paper or CEEFAX last Tues/Wed, so I didn't
know the fixture lists/scores, except those posted in here. I thought something
was strange... Luton outside the relegation zone... Anyway they're back where
they belong now ( Well nearly - Still West Ham & Soton to go ).
So here's the updated bottom half of the table
Al
.
.
.
12 Wimbledon 30 9 11 10 36 36 38 0
13 Oldham Athletic 31 10 7 14 45 50 37 -5
14 QPR 31 7 15 9 30 36 36 -6
15 Tottenham Hotspur 28 10 5 13 36 36 35 0
16 Nottingham For 27 9 7 11 42 42 34 0
17 Coventry City 29 9 7 13 28 29 34 -1
18 Sheffield Utd. 30 9 7 14 44 50 34 -6
19 Notts County 29 7 8 14 30 40 29 -10
20 Luton Town 31 7 8 16 25 55 29 -30
21 West Ham Utd. 28 6 9 13 26 42 27 -16
22 Southampton 29 5 10 14 27 45 25 -18
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13.153 | | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Mon Mar 02 1992 16:42 | 6 |
|
re. -1 Stupid question, maybe, but ...
How many are going down this year then ? And how many are coming up ?
Ads.
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13.154 | 'Pies to avoid the drop......I hope! | PANIC::ANDERSON | The 'Pies have gone cold | Mon Mar 02 1992 16:48 | 13 |
|
Ads,
The THREE teams going down are :
West Ham, Southampton, and Luton (of course)
For the THREE coming up, perm any 3 from the top 10 in Div 2
- 2 automatic places, and 1 from the Play-Offs
Rob
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13.155 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | I wev ma privet parts et yaw aunty | Mon Mar 02 1992 16:54 | 3 |
| ....And another season of 42 fixtures. Ridiculous.
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13.156 | Make em play even more. | WELCLU::BWALKER | Come on you Hatters. | Mon Mar 02 1992 17:38 | 12 |
| Barry,
Whats wrong with 42 fixtures. If they canned another 8 games a
year. They would only conjure up another silly cup to replace the lost
games and therefore income.
We have to pay enough and they get paid enough, too much in my opinion.
If the second, third and fourth divisions can play more league games
then so can the overpaid, overated fairies of the first/Premier league.
Regs,
Barry.
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13.157 | Fans against the Chairmen! | ARRODS::OHAGANB | I wev ma privet parts et yaw aunty | Mon Mar 02 1992 18:42 | 16 |
| Barry,
How about quality not quantity? After all, if the premier league is
the place to find the "best", the place where most, if not all, our
national team is picked from, then it makes more sense to reduce the
amount of games they play rather than run them into the ground for the
sake of a chairman's greed? If they're so concerned about the financial
impact of losing between 4 and eight fixtures a year then why don't they
think of another area where they can gain. I suggest they look to the
area of Transfer fees as a starter, not by increasing, by decreasing or
at least imposing a ceiling. Or is that too much to ask for? Probably
not as it's affecting yours and my pockets.
Barry.
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13.158 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows learnt to swim | Wed Mar 04 1992 14:00 | 50 |
| 3 Games from the 1st division last night:
Palace, Forest & Villa all move up a place or 2, but Leeds fail to
leap frog over Man U after a nervous performance against Villa.
I heard the last 30 minutes on Radio 5, and from what I heard Leeds could &
should have put the game out of Villa's reach in the 1st half, but failed.
Villa came out in the 2nd with all cylinders firing, and had Leeds against the
wall for about half an hour. Only in the last 10-15 minutes did any urgency come
into Leeds game, and they bombarded the Villa penalty area, but without any
reward. Cantona had a couple of greatt efforts well saved by Spink.
The Palace/ Forest game could have been 5-5 but for bad finishing &
dogged defending.
Southampton move off the bottom and are replaced by West Ham after 64th
minute Iain Dowie header gave Saints the points. Saw the goal on TV and it was
a great move. That's 7 games without defeat for the Saints. Could they do a
Luton Town great escape???
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Nottingham For
Leeds Utd. 0 - 0 Aston Villa
Southampton 1 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 30 17 11 2 51 22 62 29
2 Leeds Utd. 31 16 13 2 55 24 61 31
3 Man City 31 15 8 8 45 35 53 10
4 Sheffield Wed. 30 15 8 7 49 41 53 8
5 Liverpool 30 12 13 5 35 27 49 8
6 Arsenal 30 11 11 8 51 35 44 16
7 Aston Villa 31 12 6 13 35 35 42 0
8 Chelsea 32 10 12 10 41 46 42 -5
9 Crystal Palace 31 10 11 10 42 51 41 -9
10 Everton 30 10 10 10 39 34 40 5
11 Norwich City 30 10 10 10 40 41 40 -1
12 Wimbledon 30 9 11 10 36 36 38 0
13 Oldham Athletic 31 10 7 14 45 50 37 -5
14 QPR 31 7 15 9 30 36 36 -6
15 Nottingham For 28 9 8 11 42 42 35 0
16 Tottenham Hotspur 28 10 5 13 36 36 35 0
17 Coventry City 29 9 7 13 28 29 34 -1
18 Sheffield Utd. 30 9 7 14 44 50 34 -6
19 Notts County 29 7 8 14 30 40 29 -10
20 Luton Town 31 7 8 16 25 55 29 -30
21 Southampton 30 6 10 14 28 45 28 -17
22 West Ham Utd. 29 6 9 14 26 43 27 -17
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13.159 | Paid too much. | WELCLU::BWALKER | Come on you Hatters. | Wed Mar 04 1992 17:57 | 9 |
| Barry.
Re .157.
I would much rather they start by getting the salaries down to a
realistic level.
Regs,
Barry.
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13.160 | What's a goal???? | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows learnt to swim | Thu Mar 05 1992 13:57 | 15 |
| Yet another 0 - 0 draw last night.
There aren't that many going around the 1st division this week
.....
You mean you want the teams.
Ok
Coventry v Norwich
That's 4 goalless draws in a row for Coventry.
Al
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13.161 | Results & Table 7th Mar 1992 - Leeds back on top | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learnt to swim | Mon Mar 09 1992 13:34 | 32 |
| Everton 2 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Luton Town 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
QPR 4 - 0 Man City
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Coventry City
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 3 Leeds Utd.
Wimbledon 2 - 0 Notts County
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 32 17 13 2 58 25 64 33
2 Man Utd. 30 17 11 2 51 22 62 29
3 Sheffield Wed. 31 15 9 7 50 42 54 8
4 Man City 32 15 8 9 45 39 53 6
5 Liverpool 30 12 13 5 35 27 49 8
6 Arsenal 30 11 11 8 51 35 44 16
7 Everton 31 11 10 10 41 35 43 6
8 Aston Villa 31 12 6 13 35 35 42 0
9 Chelsea 32 10 12 10 41 46 42 -5
10 Crystal Palace 32 10 12 10 43 52 42 -9
11 Wimbledon 31 10 11 10 38 36 41 2
12 Norwich City 31 10 11 10 40 41 41 -1
13 QPR 32 8 15 9 34 36 39 -2
14 Oldham Athletic 32 10 7 15 46 52 37 -6
15 Coventry City 31 9 9 13 29 30 36 -1
16 Nottingham For 28 9 8 11 42 42 35 0
17 Tottenham Hotspur 29 10 5 14 37 39 35 -2
18 Sheffield Utd. 30 9 7 14 44 50 34 -6
19 Luton Town 32 7 9 16 26 56 30 -30
20 Notts County 30 7 8 15 30 42 29 -12
21 Southampton 30 6 10 14 28 45 28 -17
22 West Ham Utd. 29 6 9 14 26 43 27 -17
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13.162 | Some midweek games!!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learnt to swim | Wed Mar 11 1992 13:22 | 10 |
| Yet another high scoring set of fixtures in the 1st Division last night.
Arsenal 2 - 1 Oldham
Notts C 0 - 0 Aston Villa
Wombles 0 - 0 Everton
There's another wad of games on this evening so I'll put in the updated table
tomorrow ( with Leeds (Leeds Leeds) 5 points ahead )
Al
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13.163 | Spurs for the drop ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Mar 11 1992 17:50 | 13 |
| Spurs look to be in trouble, if they lose to Luton an Saturday, they will
be in trouble. My three for the drop are West Ham, Spurs and Luton /
Notts County - I expect Soton to escape. nb Spurs' last game at Old
Trafford could be a relegation / championship issue.
17 Tottenham Hotspur 29 10 5 14 37 39 35 -2
18 Sheffield Utd. 30 9 7 14 44 50 34 -6
19 Luton Town 32 7 9 16 26 56 30 -30
20 Notts County 30 7 8 15 30 42 29 -12
21 Southampton 30 6 10 14 28 45 28 -17
22 West Ham Utd. 29 6 9 14 26 43 27 -17
jb.
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13.164 | All still to play for | PANIC::ANDERSON | The 'Pies have gone cold | Wed Mar 11 1992 18:18 | 77 |
| jb.
The following lists the remaining fixtures for all the bottom 10 clubs
in the First Division, with a guestimate of the outcomes.
If all goes to [my] plan then Southampton, Luton, and West Ham go down,
with County avoiding the drop by one point [But then I would make sure
it worked out that way wouldn't I :-)]
Southampton West Ham Luton
~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
Current points 28 27 30
11.3.92 Palace (H) 3 Liverpool (A) 0 Spurs (H) 1
14.3.92 Man City (A) 0 Arsenal (H) 3 Everton (A) 0
21.3.92 Luton (H) 1 QPR (H) 1 Southampton (A) 1
28.3.92 Everton (A) 0 Leeds (A) 0 Forest (H) 0
4.4.92 QPR (H) 1 Chelsea (A) 1 Wimbledon (H) 1
11.4.92 Man Utd (A) 0 Norwich (H) 0 Oldham (A) 0
18.4.92 Sheff Wed (H) 0 Man City (A) 0 Man Utd (H) 0
20.4.92 Wimbledon (A) 1 Palace (H) 3 QPR (A) 1
25.4.92 Oldham (H) 3 Coventry (A) 1 Villa (H) 1
2.5.92 Arsenal (A) 0 Forest (H) 1 County (A) 0
TBA ? Chelsea (A) 3 ? Man Utd (H) 1
TBA ? Forest (H) 1 ? Tottenham (A) 1
TBA ? Sheff Wed (H) 1
Final points 41 40 35
Forest Tottenham QPR
~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~
Current points 34 35 39
11.3.92 Coventry (A) 3 Luton (A) 1 Leeds (H) 1
14.3.92 Norwich (H) 0 Sheff Wed (H) 1 Villa (A) 0
21.3.92 Man City (H) 1 Liverpool (A) 1 West Ham(A) 1
28.3.92 Luton (A) 3 Coventry (H) 3 Man Utd (H) 0
4.4.92 Sheff Wed (H) 1 Villa (H) 0 Southampton (A) 1
11.4.92 Wimbledon (A) 3 QPR (A) 3 Spurs (H) 0
18.4.92 Villa (H) 0 Wimbledon (H) 1 Chelsea (A) 1
20.4.92 Man Utd (A) 3 Oldham (A) 0 Luton (H) 1
25.4.92 QPR (H) 3 Everton (H) 0 Forest (A) 0
2.5.92 West Ham (A) 1 Man Utd (A) 1 Palace (H) 3
TBA ? Palace (A) 1 County (A) 1
TBA ? Arsenal (A) 3 ? Sheff Utd (A) 1
TBA ? Southampton(A 1 ? West Ham (H) 1
TBA ? Liverpool (H) 3
TBA ? ??? (H) 1
Final points 61 49 47
Notts County Sheff Utd Coventry
~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
Current points 30 34 36
11.3.92 Sheff Wed (A) 0 Forest (H) 0
14.3.92 Oldham (A) 0 Man Utd (H) 0 Chelsea (A) 0
21.3.92 Sheff Wed (A) 0 Chelsea (A) 0 Oldham (H) 0
28.3.92 Palace (H) 1 Liverpool (H) 1 Spurs (A) 1
4.4.92 Liverpool (A) 0 Oldham (H) 1 Arsenal (H) 1
11.4.92 Coventry (H) 3 Everton (A) 0 County (A) 0
18.4.92 Norwich (A) 0 Arsenal (H) 3 Everton (H) 3
20.4.92 Sheff Utd (H) 3 County (A) 0 Leeds (A) 0
25.4.92 Man City (A) 0 Leeds (H) 0 West Ham (H) 0
2.5.92 Luton (H) 3 Wimbledon (A) 3 Villa (A) 3
TBA Everton (H) 1 ? Spurs (H) 1 ? Norwich (H) 1
TBA Spurs (H) 1 ? Villa (A) 0
Final points 42 43 45
Oldham
~~~~~~
Current points 37
14.3.92 County (H) 3
21.3.92 Coventry (A) 1
28.3.92 Sheff Wed (H) 0
4.4.92 Sheff Utd (A) 1
11.4.92 Luton (H) 3
18.4.92 Palace (A) 1
20.4.92 Spurs (H) 3
25.4.92 Southampton (A) 0
2.5.92 Man City (H) 1
Final points 50
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13.165 | That's the kiss of death then! | BEAGLE::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Wed Mar 11 1992 19:20 | 9 |
| I will state here and now in front of the world (well, whoever reads
this conference anyway) that Spurs will NOT be relegated at the end of
this season. They will play their way out of it by beating other teams
and accumulating points!
My three for the drop are Luton, West Ham and Southampton.
Stevo
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13.166 | More Midweek results plus table | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Thu Mar 12 1992 13:54 | 49 |
| Coventry City 0 - 2 Nottingham For
Smith (og), Sheringham
Liverpool 1 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Saunders
Luton Town 0 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Norwich City 0 - 1 Chelsea
Dixon
QPR 4 - 1 Leeds Utd. :-(
Ferdinand Speed
Allen, Sinton (Whyte Sent Off)
Wilson (Pen)
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 3 Sheffield Utd.
King Whitehouse, Davison (2)
Southampton 1 - 0 Crystal Palace
Le Tissier
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 33 17 13 3 59 29 64 30
2 Man Utd. 30 17 11 2 51 22 62 29
3 Sheffield Wed. 32 15 9 8 51 45 54 6
4 Man City 32 15 8 9 45 39 53 6
5 Liverpool 31 13 13 5 36 27 52 9
6 Arsenal 31 12 11 8 53 36 47 17
7 Chelsea 33 11 12 10 42 46 45 -4
8 Everton 32 11 11 10 41 35 44 6
9 Aston Villa 32 12 7 13 35 35 43 0
10 Wimbledon 32 10 12 10 38 36 42 2
11 QPR 33 9 15 9 38 37 42 1
12 Crystal Palace 33 10 12 11 43 53 42 -10
13 Norwich City 32 10 11 11 40 42 41 -2
14 Nottingham For 29 10 8 11 44 42 38 2
15 Sheffield Utd. 31 10 7 14 47 51 37 -4
16 Oldham Athletic 33 10 7 16 47 54 37 -7
17 Tottenham Hotspur 30 10 6 14 37 39 36 -2
18 Coventry City 32 9 9 14 29 32 36 -3
19 Southampton 31 7 10 14 29 45 31 -16
20 Luton Town 33 7 10 16 26 56 31 -30
21 Notts County 31 7 9 15 30 42 30 -12
22 West Ham Utd. 30 6 9 15 26 44 27 -18
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13.167 | | BEAGLE::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Thu Mar 12 1992 18:16 | 11 |
| Lutow 0 - Spurs 0
>I will state here and now in front of the world (well, whoever reads
>this conference anyway) that Spurs will NOT be relegated at the end of
>this season. They will play their way out of it by beating other teams
>and accumulating points!
Please read "PROBABLY" in front of "NOT", and "TRY TO" in front of "PLAY".
Stevo
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13.168 | Results & table 14/15 Mar | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Mon Mar 16 1992 13:43 | 70 |
| It's Monday morning and it's time for the 1st Div results again:
Sat 14th March
Aston Villa 0 - 1 QPR
Chelsea 0 - 1 Coventry City
Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Liverpool
Everton 1 - 1 Luton Town
Leeds Utd. 5 - 1 Wimbledon
Nottingham For 2 - 0 Norwich City
Oldham Athletic 4 - 3 Notts County
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 2 Man Utd.
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
West Ham Utd. 0 - 2 Arsenal
The Ides of March (15th)
Man City 0 - 1 Southampton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 34 18 13 3 64 30 67 34
2 Man Utd. 31 18 11 2 53 23 65 30
3 Sheffield Wed. 33 16 9 8 53 45 57 8
4 Man City 33 15 8 10 45 40 53 5
5 Liverpool 32 13 13 6 36 28 52 8
6 Arsenal 32 13 11 8 55 36 50 19
7 Everton 33 11 12 10 42 36 45 6
8 QPR 34 10 15 9 39 37 45 2
9 Chelsea 34 11 12 11 42 47 45 -5
10 Crystal Palace 34 11 12 11 44 53 45 -9
11 Aston Villa 33 12 7 14 35 36 43 -1
12 Wimbledon 33 10 12 11 39 41 42 -2
13 Nottingham For 30 11 8 11 46 42 41 4
14 Norwich City 33 10 11 12 40 44 41 -4
15 Oldham Athletic 34 11 7 16 51 57 40 -6
16 Coventry City 33 10 9 14 30 32 39 -2
17 Sheffield Utd. 32 10 7 15 48 53 37 -5
18 Tottenham Hotspur 31 10 6 15 37 41 36 -4
19 Southampton 32 8 10 14 30 45 34 -15
20 Luton Town 34 7 11 16 27 57 32 -30
21 Notts County 32 7 9 16 33 46 30 -13
22 West Ham Utd. 31 6 9 16 26 46 27 -20
At 3:30 on Saturday it was all smiles & Brian Deane was my hero at the moment.
Leeds total was steadily climbing and The Mancs were losing :-)
Then 4:15, and a muttered "Oh!!" as I checked the scores again. McClair had
equalised :-| and the Wombles had got one back ( Could this be another
Southampton?? ).
At 4:30 I completed the sentence I'd started at quarter past "@$%#". Must have
been Fergusons worst decision of the season, bringing on Blackmore ( ;-) )
2-1 to Utd :-(.
However, there was light at the end of the tunnel, as the white machine had got
another two up at Elland Rd. :-)
The Mancs seem to be getting a lot of luck at the moment, and it looks like the
defeat at QPR has given Leeds the kick up the A**e they needed. It's going to be
another classic end to the season.
It looks like only Wednesday have any chances of spoiling the Utds fun, with
both Liverpool and Man City losing. Man City certainly didn't look like a team
in 4th place in their live game yesterday, however the Saints looked better than
their placing. If they continue to play like that they should stay up.
The Totts are definitely looking relegation candidates.
Stevo, fancy changing .167 again ;-)
Al
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13.169 | What have I done to deserve this? | UTRUST::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Tue Mar 17 1992 14:31 | 14 |
| Spurs 0 - Owls 2
>I will state here and now in front of the world (well, whoever reads
>>this conference anyway) that Spurs will NOT be relegated at the end of
>>this season. They will play their way out of it by beating other teams
>>and accumulating points!
>
>Please read "PROBABLY" in front of "NOT", and "TRY TO" in front of "PLAY".
>
Please change "PROBABLY" to "POSSIBLY", and "WILL" to "MIGHT"
Stevo
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13.170 | Result & Table 21st/22nd Mar | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Mon Mar 23 1992 14:02 | 53 |
| Sat 21st Mar
Chelsea 1 - 2 Sheffield Utd.
Coventry City 1 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Aston Villa
Liverpool 2 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Man Utd. 0 - 0 Wimbledon
Norwich City 4 - 3 Everton
Nottingham For 2 - 0 Man City
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 0 Notts County
Southampton 2 - 1 Luton Town
West Ham Utd. 2 - 2 QPR
Sun 22nd Mar
Arsenal 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 35 18 14 3 65 31 68 34
2 Man Utd. 33 18 12 3 53 24 66 29
3 Sheffield Wed. 34 17 9 8 54 45 60 9
4 Liverpool 33 14 13 6 38 29 55 9
5 Man City 34 15 8 11 45 42 53 3
6 Arsenal 33 13 12 8 56 37 51 19
7 Nottingham For 32 13 8 11 49 42 47 7
8 Everton 35 11 13 11 45 40 46 5
9 QPR 35 10 16 9 41 39 46 2
10 Crystal Palace 35 11 13 11 44 53 46 -9
11 Chelsea 35 11 12 12 43 49 45 -6
12 Aston Villa 34 12 8 14 35 36 44 -1
13 Norwich City 34 11 11 12 44 47 44 -3
14 Wimbledon 34 10 13 11 39 41 43 -2
15 Oldham Athletic 35 11 8 16 52 58 41 -6
16 Coventry City 34 10 10 14 31 33 40 -2
17 Sheffield Utd. 33 11 7 15 50 54 40 -4
18 Southampton 33 9 10 14 32 46 37 -14
19 Tottenham Hotspur 32 10 6 16 38 43 36 -5
20 Luton Town 35 7 11 17 28 59 32 -31
21 Notts County 34 7 10 17 33 47 31 -14
22 West Ham Utd. 32 6 10 16 28 48 28 -20
Highlights:
Sheffield Wednesday are getting a little too close for comfort. Only 6
points behind Man Utd. Tottenham are getting into deep trouble. They need to put
some results together. However, saying that they're not getting any luck at the
moment. Just look at Liverpool's winner. Forest have gone from 16th to 7th in
just over a week. Gives some hope to the bottom clubs.
AAl
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13.171 | Euro places ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:23 | 11 |
| Very tight at the top, the pressure is mounting on the Mancs. How many
European places are up for grabs at the end of the season ?
Euro Cup - League Winners
Cup Winner's Cup - FA Cup Winners
UEFA Cup - Rum Cup Winners
Any more ? It could be that there aren't any European places for teams
finishing 2nd in the League, so no Mancs in Europe next season.
jb.
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13.172 | 2 places in UEFA ?? | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Mon Mar 23 1992 17:48 | 8 |
| I thought there were 2 UEFA Cup places this year, in which case Man U would
probably manage to get one.
I know it's not going to happen ( Please ), but what would happen if Man U won
the Rumbelows Cup & The league? Would Forest take the UEFA place for the
Rumbelows cup, or would it go to the next highest placed team in the league??
Al
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13.173 | Rumbles - no way | FUTURS::FLETCHER | | Mon Mar 23 1992 18:20 | 9 |
| Since when has it been decided that the rumbles winner is going to get
a uefa place. L'pool got in last year by league pos - league poss will
count again this year as far as I know.
Question: IF Man U win the league this year - Has Robbo Cop played in
enough games yet to get a medal (If I put this in the Man U note they
would only start moaning - you know how touchy they are at the moment)
Nigel
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13.174 | Euro spots | XSTACY::KMCGRATH | | Mon Mar 23 1992 19:26 | 9 |
| I'm sure I heard somewhere before that a rumbles win gives a UEFA spot.
I don't know if the english league is to get 1 or 2 places next year.
All sorts of contortions are possible....depending what Man united decide
to keep or throw away this year. It would be nice if someone had some definite
information.
Is there anybody out there?
- Kev
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13.175 | Aldershot F.C. R.I.P. | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Fri Mar 27 1992 13:40 | 17 |
13.176 | sad day for football | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | ooh look! its Rob Jones!!! | Fri Mar 27 1992 14:07 | 5 |
| Al,
does this mean that all the people who beat them lose 3 points per
game?
any clubs that lost to Aldershot must be thanking their lucky stars!
Ian.
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13.177 | re -1 | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Fri Mar 27 1992 14:19 | 6 |
| re The Shots :-
Their record is 'expunged', Doncaster are now bottom, Burnley are now
top on goal difference from Blackpool with a game in hand.
jb.
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13.178 | WHY | MINDER::MACDONALDI | MUFC ECWC Champions | Fri Mar 27 1992 14:35 | 15 |
| WHY ???
Why have Aldershot gone under? - because they owe 1.2 million quid.
Now why didn't one of the bigger clubs help them out, I mean 1.2 million
to teams like Utd, Liverpool etc... or even a hundred thousand from
each First Division team would maybe have saved Aldershot going bump.
Just look how much a player costs nowadays (1-5 million) and there you
could have bought about 15 player, a ground etc...
Only my opinion.
P.S. I thought Ken Bates might have moved in, as a new home for
Chelsea. :)
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13.179 | ... | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | ooh look! its Rob Jones!!! | Fri Mar 27 1992 14:40 | 8 |
|
perhaps there would be some validity in the setting up of a football
trust where each premier division club would pay a certain amount into
a fund each year to be used to help support lower clubs in times of
crisis.
Ian.
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13.180 | I think it's law in Germany. | ARRODS::OHAGANB | lOnDoN cALlInG | Fri Mar 27 1992 16:38 | 7 |
|
re .last
The idea of a trust works within the Bundersliga, I think. Perhaps
one of our German noters can confirm this?
barry.
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13.181 | ???? | HAM::SCHARNBERG | Zo fo Draziw (jun.) | Fri Mar 27 1992 16:43 | 16 |
|
No.
A lot of clubs had to be sold out and relegated to the premier amateur
division (3rd Division, i.e. Oberliga)
Schalke 04
FC St.Pauli
RW Essen
Hertha BSC (?)
MSV Duisburg (?)
I have never heard of a trust to save clubs-in-need.
Heiko
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13.182 | Remember the 17 year chairman ? | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | As happy as a pig in sh | Fri Mar 27 1992 18:26 | 13 |
|
Why should there be a trust to bail out 'lame dog' clubs like
Aldershot ?
I heard on the news today that the police are investigating the club
finances, so someone was obviously on the fiddle. If Aldershot weren't
riddled with corruption, someone/ some mug would have stepped in and
bought them.
Good riddance... even the locals weren't prepared to support them in
high numbers, why should the rest of the league waste money on them.
Paul
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13.183 | more to English football than the big 5 | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Fri Mar 27 1992 18:54 | 9 |
|
Re -1, I don't think the big clubs should have to bail aldershot out
but steps should be taken to ensure that more clubs don't go the same
route. It's sad to see them die and the game at all levels will be the
poorer. Many of today's stars came through the ranks of the smaller
clubs. Many of the 3rd and 4th division clubs are in financial
trouble and they should not be allowed to die.
Gary.
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13.184 | Anyone for the last 2 strikers..... | RTOEU::RDELANEY | And in trap 7 tonight we have...... | Fri Mar 27 1992 19:11 | 3 |
| What happens to the players ? Are they now free agents ?
- Robin
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13.185 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | As happy as a pig in sh | Fri Mar 27 1992 19:37 | 10 |
|
re .183
I don't see why lame ducks shouldn't be able to go out of existance,
it's not as if there aren't enough good well run clubs in non-League
football that can't replace them.
Barnet for example.
Paul
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13.186 | Need to become semi-professional | IOSG::BUTTON | | Fri Mar 27 1992 20:14 | 15 |
13.187 | Cardiff played them last | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Vote Bill'n'Opus for a weirder USA | Sat Mar 28 1992 03:33 | 14 |
| Interesting ... there's an article in the SUnday paper (U.K) about
Cardiff paying 2,000 pounds to bail out Aldershot last week so that
they (cardiff) could play Aldershot on Friday night which Cardiff won
2-0.
On Accrington Stanley being the last team to go under I guess
that's technically tru however only a few years ago Newport County were
wound up but I suppose the difference is they made it to the end of the
season and their points counted.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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13.188 | Results coming soon!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Mon Mar 30 1992 14:31 | 8 |
| Andrew,
Newport County were actually relegated from the football league before
they were finally wound up, as I remember them playing in the Vauxhall Conf.
As you said Accrington S. were the last to be wound up mid season.
Al
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13.189 | And here they are.... | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Mon Mar 30 1992 15:16 | 48 |
| League Division 1 Saturday 28th March
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Norwich City
Leeds Utd. 0 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Man City 0 - 0 Chelsea
Notts County 2 - 3 Crystal Palace
Oldham Athletic 3 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
QPR 0 - 0 Man Utd.
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 0 Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur 4 - 3 Coventry City
Wimbledon 1 - 3 Arsenal
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 36 18 15 3 65 31 69 34
2 Man Utd. 34 18 13 3 53 24 67 29
3 Sheffield Wed. 35 17 9 9 54 48 60 6
4 Liverpool 34 14 13 7 38 31 55 7
5 Arsenal 34 14 12 8 59 38 54 21
6 Man City 35 15 9 11 45 42 54 3
7 Crystal Palace 36 12 13 11 47 55 49 -8
8 Nottingham For 32 13 8 11 49 42 47 7
9 QPR 36 10 17 9 41 39 47 2
10 Aston Villa 35 13 8 14 36 36 47 0
11 Everton 35 11 13 11 45 40 46 5
12 Chelsea 36 11 13 12 43 49 46 -6
13 Oldham Athletic 36 12 8 16 55 58 44 -3
14 Norwich City 35 11 11 13 44 48 44 -4
15 Sheffield Utd. 34 12 7 15 52 54 43 -2
16 Wimbledon 35 10 13 12 40 44 43 -4
17 Coventry City 35 10 10 15 34 37 40 -3
18 Tottenham Hotspur 33 11 6 16 42 46 39 -4
19 Southampton 33 9 10 14 32 46 37 -14
20 Luton Town 35 7 11 17 28 59 32 -31
21 Notts County 35 7 10 18 35 50 31 -15
22 West Ham Utd. 33 6 11 16 28 48 29 -20
Sunday 29th March
ZDS Cup Final at Wembley
Nottingham Forest 3 - 2 Southampton AET
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13.190 | Man U go back to the top of the stack | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Wed Apr 01 1992 15:03 | 44 |
| Results from Tues 31-Mar
Arsenal 3 - 3 Nottingham For
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Liverpool 4 - 0 Notts County
Norwich City 1 - 3 Man Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 35 19 13 3 56 25 70 31
2 Leeds Utd. 36 18 15 3 65 31 69 34
3 Sheffield Wed. 35 17 9 9 54 48 60 6
4 Liverpool 35 15 13 7 42 31 58 11
5 Arsenal 35 14 13 8 62 41 55 21
6 Man City 35 15 9 11 45 42 54 3
7 Crystal Palace 36 12 13 11 47 55 49 -8
8 Nottingham For 33 13 9 11 52 45 48 7
9 Aston Villa 36 13 9 14 37 37 48 0
10 QPR 36 10 17 9 41 39 47 2
11 Everton 35 11 13 11 45 40 46 5
12 Chelsea 36 11 13 12 43 49 46 -6
13 Sheffield Utd. 35 12 8 15 53 55 44 -2
14 Oldham Athletic 36 12 8 16 55 58 44 -3
15 Norwich City 36 11 11 14 45 51 44 -6
16 Wimbledon 35 10 13 12 40 44 43 -4
17 Coventry City 35 10 10 15 34 37 40 -3
18 Tottenham Hotspur 33 11 6 16 42 46 39 -4
19 Southampton 33 9 10 14 32 46 37 -14
20 Luton Town 35 7 11 17 28 59 32 -31
21 Notts County 36 7 10 19 35 54 31 -19
22 West Ham Utd. 33 6 11 16 28 48 29 -20
Looks like the Arsenal game had pretty much the same ingredients as the
Live match back in December. Forest look comfortable, they were 3-1 up, and then
Arsenal rally in the last 10 minutes. This time they managed to salvage a point.
It's looking pretty ominous for the bottom 3 now. At least 5 points
adrift, and with the exception of West Ham, having played 2/3 more games.
It's still very open at the top and will probably go to the last game.
Al
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13.191 | Bottom 3 are almost home and dry !!!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Thu Apr 02 1992 14:30 | 29 |
| Last Night there were two crucial relegation matches played.
The results:
Everton 0 - 1 Southampton
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
.
.
.
.
11 Everton 36 11 13 12 45 41 46 4
12 Chelsea 36 11 13 12 43 49 46 -6
13 Sheffield Utd. 35 12 8 15 53 55 44 -2
14 Oldham Athletic 36 12 8 16 55 58 44 -3
15 Norwich City 36 11 11 14 45 51 44 -6
16 Wimbledon 35 10 13 12 40 44 43 -4
17 Tottenham Hotspur 34 12 6 16 45 46 42 -1
18 Coventry City 35 10 10 15 34 37 40 -3
19 Southampton 34 10 10 14 33 46 40 -13
20 Luton Town 35 7 11 17 28 59 32 -31
21 Notts County 36 7 10 19 35 54 31 -19
22 West Ham Utd. 34 6 11 17 28 51 29 -23
The bottom 3 are in even worse trouble now than they were yesterday. 8
points is a lot when there are only 6/7 games left.
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13.192 | To Strike or not to strike??? That is the question! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Fri Apr 03 1992 13:36 | 31 |
| There was one game last night. Yes I know they don't usually have games on
thursday, but the powers that be ......
Anyway Forest played their 3rd game in 5 days and not surprisingly were too
tired to pose any real threat to the Wombles who ran out 3-0 winners, which
helped them jump from 16th to 12th.
Other matters:
As I haven't seen any news to the contrary over the last few days:-
Today is the day of the players ballot on whether to strike over the TV rights
discussion that's been raging for a few weeks. The PFA want 10% but the League
only want to offer 5%.
The rest of the season could drag on well into the summer if this issue isn't
resolved quickly and (D.I.S.A.S.T.E.R. F.O.R. E.N.G.L.A.N.D.) that could spell
disaster for England ( Taken from the Mary Whitehouse Experience last week!!)
in the European Championships.
IMO:
Why shouldn't the players Union get more of a cut. After all if it wasn't for
the players there wouldn't be a sport!!! And it goes to help all players, not
just those in the top flight. And it would appear that the League have gone back
on their word, as a few weeks ago they were willing to negotiate, now it's a
case of take it or leave it!!!
Let's get out of the boardrooms and back onto the football fields.
Al
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13.193 | What's Gordon Taylor got to gain out of all this? | TRUCKS::SANT | another day in paradise? | Fri Apr 03 1992 14:50 | 15 |
|
I agree with you to the extent of saying "why shouldn't the Union
get more of a cut?" , but I am a little suspicious of Gordon
Taylor's motives. I suspect that the issue is being driven by
Mr.Taylor for his own ends, and in doing so is prepared to use
the threat of player strike action in achieving them. I think he
began this somewhat personal campaign with the Players' Union
at heart, but has become clouded with an utmost desire to force
the League to bow to his view, and seems reluctant to reach any
form of compromise. I've lost a little respect for Gordon Taylor,
though still expect him to do the right thing - eventually.
jmho..
Andy.
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13.194 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Fri Apr 03 1992 16:51 | 9 |
|
I believe that Gordon Taylor is doing what union rep. should do, namely
attempting to get the best deal for his members. Unfortunately the new
premier league has brought out the worst in football chairman, as they
scrabble over themselves to get a cut of the increased wealth. Their
contemptuous attitude towards the players, however, may see them come
unstuck, since in most instances the supporters will side with them.
jeff
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13.195 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | As happy as a pig in sh | Sat Apr 04 1992 19:47 | 7 |
|
Final score from Maine Rd
Man City 4-0 Leeds
Paul
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13.196 | Results & Table 4th Apr | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | My Sorrows, they learned to swim | Mon Apr 06 1992 13:13 | 48 |
| Chelsea 2 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Coventry City 0 - 1 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Everton
Luton Town 2 - 1 Wimbledon
Man City 4 - 0 Leeds Utd. :-(
Nottingham For 0 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Southampton 2 - 1 QPR
Tottenham Hotspur 2 - 5 Aston Villa
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 35 19 13 3 56 25 70 31
2 Leeds Utd. 37 18 15 4 65 35 69 30
3 Sheffield Wed. 36 18 9 9 56 48 63 8
4 Arsenal 36 15 13 8 63 41 58 22
5 Liverpool 35 15 13 7 42 31 58 11
6 Man City 36 16 9 11 49 42 57 7
7 Crystal Palace 37 13 13 11 49 55 52 -6
8 Aston Villa 37 14 9 14 42 39 51 3
9 Chelsea 37 12 13 12 45 50 49 -5
10 Nottingham For 35 13 9 13 52 50 48 2
11 QPR 37 10 17 10 42 41 47 1
12 Sheffield Utd. 36 13 8 15 55 55 47 0
13 Everton 37 11 13 13 45 43 46 2
14 Wimbledon 37 11 13 13 44 46 46 -2
15 Oldham Athletic 37 12 8 17 55 60 44 -5
16 Norwich City 36 11 11 14 45 51 44 -6
17 Southampton 35 11 10 14 35 47 43 -12
18 Tottenham Hotspur 35 12 6 17 47 51 42 -4
19 Coventry City 36 10 10 16 34 38 40 -4
20 Luton Town 36 8 11 17 30 60 35 -30
21 Notts County 36 7 10 19 35 54 31 -19
22 West Ham Utd. 35 6 11 18 29 53 29 -24
The betting shops have now stopped taking bets on Man Utd to win.
Leeds have to hope that Man City can do it over their neighbours too, otherwise
the race could be over.
Bottom 3 now look doomed, although Spurs seem to be doing their best to join
them. Leading 2-0 then going down 5-2. tut tut.
Forest paid the price of playing 4 games in 6 days. They're not supermen. They
should have been able to play one of those games later on in the season.
Al
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13.197 | Fair shares for all. | WELCLU::BWALKER | Come on you Hatters. | Wed Apr 08 1992 15:11 | 25 |
| I take great offence a the arrogance of Mr Watterson whom I believe
supports one of the BIG FIVE (Ha Ha) Everton.
If the big clubs are not willing to help "football" but supporting in
some fashion the smaller clubs. Why should they then behave like a
greedy bunch of bully boys over the TV dosh. I certainly would not put
Everton in as a BIG Five Club on current form, and Tottenham for that
matter. I wonder how long the likes of Spurs and Everton would last as
a force (joke) in football if they had not received such an exorbitant
share of the live TV money dolled out in recent years. Which
incidentally has bored the socks off of other football fans who do not
support the likes of Arse, Spurs, Liverpool, Everton and Man U.
Remember it was then Everton chairman Peter Carter whom was
negoitiating behind the bascks of the smaller clubs the TV deal of
years past. Talk about a vested interest.
Remember Mr Watterson. When a noter says that the big clubs should bail
out the smaller ones. They do not mean charity, what they mean is that
the big clubs should only recieve their fair share of the TV money,
which would leave a bigger slice for them.
Regards,
Barry.
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13.198 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | | Wed Apr 08 1992 16:12 | 31 |
| >> <<< Note 13.197 by WELCLU::BWALKER "Come on you Hatters." >>>
>> -< Fair shares for all. >-
>> I take great offence a the arrogance of Mr Watterson whom I believe
>> supports one of the BIG FIVE (Ha Ha) Everton.
Is this my arrogance in general or are you refering to my note about
Aldershot biting the dust ?
As for the 'big five' - I've always thought it was a bit strange to
seperate Everton, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal and Man Utd from the
other 'big' clubs - Leeds, Aston Villa, Man City, Chelsea etc etc- but
unfortunatly the Lutons, Notts Countys, Oxfords, Wimbledons etc etc
will never be able to compete at the same level as the 'big however
many' - in terms of ground, money, attendance, pulling power etc etc
Maybe the televised Liverpool Vs Everton game turns out to be a boring
game, but more people are going to tune in and watch it than would
watch Luton vs Watford, and that, at the end of the day is all that
matters - the bigger clubs are always going to generate more interest
and consequently cash than the smaller clubs and I personally don't see
why my club, Everton, should have to subsidiss the badly run clubs such
as Aldershot etc etc, when they could spend the money on ground
improvements or new players.
Football may have started out as just a game, but nowadays it's a
business and if you don't balance the books, you don't survive.
Paul
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13.199 | Playoff info wanted | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Wed Apr 08 1992 17:45 | 7 |
|
Anybody got the dates for the playoff semi finals and finals? I need
these this afternoon if possible.
thanks in advance,
Gary.
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13.200 | Lets see more of the dosh. | WELCLU::BWALKER | Come on you Hatters. | Wed Apr 08 1992 18:51 | 36 |
| re. 198.
You are implying that Aldershot was a badly run operation. That may be
true. But cast your mind back to the Totteringhotspur dark days. I
would say that the reign of Irving Scholar was a good example of a
poorly run operation. I would say that IMHO the best run team both on
and off the pitch is Wimbledon. I would like to see Everton manage on a
similar income.
You are right that perhaps the likes of Notts County, Wimbledon and
Luton etc will never be a big club like Everton.
Your right we wont whilst the TV contract is so favourable to the
bigger clubs at the moment. I say that all the income should be spread
evenly amongst the family of Football League Clubs. But then again you
would be against that as it is probable only that income that is
keeping the Evertons and Liverpools out of the red at the moment.
If it keeps on going on like this we will land up with a league of 4
super clubs out of the 16/18 with little competition and worst of all
even greater salaries being paid to already over paid players. Remember
the Aldershots have as much right to play in the league as Everton, and
would have still been in it had perhaps the greed of the big clubs been
curtailed.
In as much Mr Watterson the rest of the League clubs are sponsoring the
Big Five. Without the other 90 or so clubs you have not got a league.
Well you have you could play each other 15 times a season and enter the
cups at the semi final stage. How exciting.
Or do you really want League football to be played in Liverpool, Manchester
and North london only.
Regards,
Barry.
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13.201 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | | Wed Apr 08 1992 19:22 | 28 |
|
Barry,
- please stop calling me Mr Watterson, it makes me feel like a school
teacher....
Anyway, back to the discussion....
Living fairly close to Aldershot, I've been following their slow
lingering death for the last couple of years and yes I am implying
Aldershot was a badly run operation. From the appointment of an 18 year
old 'property tycoon' a few years ago, up until the announcement a
couple of weeks ago of criminal charges against people connected with
the club, there's been a steady procession of 'saviours' who've had a
quick look at the books and for whatever reason decided against
investing any of their money.....make of that what you will.
As regards the TV contract - it's the TV companies who decide who they
want to show, not the 'greedy big clubs' - all they're doing is what
anyone else in that situation would do, taking as much as they can.
As for the future, I think the premier league is just a stepping stone
towards a European League and yes it is very likely that we will
eventually only see 'top class' football played in Liverpool,
Manchester and North London.
Paul
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13.202 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Wed Apr 08 1992 20:37 | 30 |
|
The real reason behind the demise of Aldershot is not fraudulent
activity in the boardroom but the simply fact that each week gate
receipts failed to cover the wage bill. The problem for football is
that this is true for a large number, possibly even a majority, of
third and fourth division clubs. Running a football club is now akin to
running a charity: constant fund-raising events are the only way of
making money week-in, week-out.
The solution for lower division clubs lies in selling their best
players to the likes of Man. Utd, Liverpool etc and/or achieving
success in their respective division, for nothing brings back the
crowds like a winning streak. However, often these two things are
incompatible since if a club sells it's best players it's unlikely to
be successful.
What has happened over the past twenty years is that more of the wealth
(both in terms of money and players) has become concentrated in fewer
teams and breaking into this little cabal is almost impossible.
Wimbledon's most outstanding success has not been winning the FA cup,
or even getting into the first division but staying there, since most
teams that achieve success on a miniscule budget find that success very
hard to sustain. In simple terms, not everyone can be successful but
only those that are will make money; the concentration of wealth will
ensure that fewer and fewer teams win the major prizes, leading to the
stagnation of football and eventually the cutting off of the
supply-line of talent from the lower divisions. Where will the "big
boys" spend their money then?
jeff
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13.203 | Salary questions | SALES::THILL | | Wed Apr 08 1992 21:51 | 14 |
| This is an interesting discussion. You mention that smaller clubs
sometimes have trouble paying player salaries. Just curious, but what
is the average pay in the different divisions? Are all 3rd and 4th
division clubs full-time professional?
I've heard that John Barnes gets 8,000 quid a week. Is this figure based
on the whole year (416,000 pounds) or just during the season? How do
salaries at the "Big" English clubs compare with the Bundesliga, Spain,
France, etc. I know Italian salaries are higher, with some players making
more than $2 million a year. Do the lower Italian clubs have this
problem as well? People might say, why watch the local team when you
can watch Milan, Juventus, Inter, etc on TV.
Tom
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13.204 | Sad, but true. | TRUCKS::SANT | See that? That's you, that is. | Thu Apr 09 1992 13:42 | 29 |
|
re .202..
I'm sorry, but I am inclined to generally agree with Paul
(ref.201..)
Aldershot was a hive of fraudulent activity up until about two
years ago, by which time they were doomed financially. I know
this because a friend of mine (Accountant) was appointed as
Administrator of the Club's affairs about 18 months ago in an
attempt to get the club back on the level FINANCIALLY. He said
at the time, long before the receivers were brought in and the
boardroom shuffles began that Aldershot had absolutely no chance
of financial survival and that "boardmembers" had been ripping
the club off for years.
The appointment of that 18-year old was absolutely a stunt. It
had no chance of success.
I think it is very sad that any side should get so deeply into
trouble that they should be wound up, but I don't think it is
to be expected of other clubs, no matter what their turnover,
to bail out the dealings of people that quite frankly should
never be allowed to run a business ever again. Legal proceedings
may yet be brought against some of the past offenders..
jmho..
Andy.
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13.205 | Results & 2p | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Lovely!! Milky Milky! | Thu Apr 09 1992 13:57 | 70 |
| Tues 7th Apr
Man Utd. 1 - 1 Man City
Notts County 0 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Wed 8th Apr
Coventry City 0 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Liverpool 2 - 3 Wimbledon
Norwich City 1 - 3 Arsenal
Southampton 0 - 1 Nottingham For
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 36 19 14 3 57 26 71 31
2 Leeds Utd. 37 18 15 4 65 35 69 30
3 Sheffield Wed. 37 18 10 9 56 48 64 8
4 Arsenal 37 16 13 8 66 42 61 24
5 Liverpool 36 15 13 8 44 34 58 10
6 Man City 37 16 10 11 50 43 58 7
7 Crystal Palace 37 13 13 11 49 55 52 -6
8 Nottingham For 36 14 9 13 53 50 51 3
9 Aston Villa 37 14 9 14 42 39 51 3
10 Wimbledon 38 12 13 13 47 48 49 -1
11 Chelsea 37 12 13 12 45 50 49 -5
12 QPR 37 10 17 10 42 41 47 1
13 Sheffield Utd. 36 13 8 15 55 55 47 0
14 Everton 37 11 13 13 45 43 46 2
15 Tottenham Hotspur 36 13 6 17 49 51 45 -2
16 Oldham Athletic 37 12 8 17 55 60 44 -5
17 Norwich City 37 11 11 15 46 54 44 -8
18 Southampton 36 11 10 15 35 48 43 -13
19 Coventry City 37 10 11 16 34 38 41 -4
20 Luton Town 36 8 11 17 30 60 35 -30
21 Notts County 37 7 10 20 35 56 31 -21
22 West Ham Utd. 35 6 11 18 29 53 29 -24
Back to the discussion in hand:
I think it is both an obligation and also in the best interests of
football, that the lower division clubs are helped by the larger clubs.
I realise that football ended being a "sport" years ago and moved into the
business world. But some of the cash that moves around the bigger clubs is
absolutely ridiculus.
As has been said before, if the 3/4 divisions disappear, then footballs
roots will die. It will become an elitest sport like American football, in as
much as demand exceeds supply. Tickets will be like gold-dust, and a lot of the
glamour will disappear. Can you imagine what the 1st Saturday of the New year
would be like without the likes of Wrexham v Arsenal, Enfield v Coventry etc. in
the 3rd round of the Cup. But the biggest problem is that some of the future
stars may never come to light. With fewer clubs, only those who show promise
from an early age will get noticed. Those late bloomers may never get the
chance and by late I mean early 20s.
I say that the big boys have had it good for too long, and it's about
time the rest of the league had a look in. And why not show some 3/4th division
ties live now and again. I'm sure that after their start to the season, there
would have been a large audience to see some of Barnet's games. I'm sure the
skill standard wouldn't have been as high, but for excitement and goals it would
knock the socks of some of the 1st division glamour teams this season e.g.
Evertonnil and Aston Villanil.
Just my tuppence
Keep football alive
Al
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13.206 | Sky | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Apr 09 1992 14:26 | 13 |
| Lower Division teams are shown on Sky, they show the Autoglass Trophy
and ZDS Cup (don't laugh). A 4th Division game can be just as
interesting as a top of Div 1 clash (or more interesting). Lower
Division clubs and players must be given a slice of the cake, the PFA
is trying to look after the vast majority of players that don't earn
8,000 a week - good luck to their campaign. Football players aren't
that well paid, I know that Mark Aizlewood (Welsh International, ex
Leeds United Captain) was on 23,000 a year at Bristol Rovers/City, he
was in financial difficulty.
Go to a match whenever you can - it's better live !!
jb.
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13.207 | Up and Down | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Apr 09 1992 14:29 | 7 |
| The relegation places are almost decided, Notts Co and West Ham look
certs, but Luton could do their annual Houdini Act, and Coventy or
Spurs could go down instead. Ipswich and Cambridge could come up
automatically with Leicester from the playoffs. Title - Leeds United on
goals scored !
jb.
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13.208 | | RIGHTO::HAIGH | John Major on yer bike! | Thu Apr 09 1992 14:52 | 4 |
|
What about making the third and fourth division amateur status? Would
that have a negative influence on players coming through? You could
also regionalise them as well.
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13.209 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | | Thu Apr 09 1992 15:27 | 26 |
13.210 | perhaps a wee bit excessive... | EICMFG::HOWE | Alice in ordnung | Thu Apr 09 1992 15:54 | 13 |
13.211 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Thu Apr 09 1992 17:53 | 25 |
13.212 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Thu Apr 09 1992 18:00 | 14 |
|
From today's Guardian:
"Milan came under attack at home and abroad yesterday amid increasing
concern that their wealth is not healthy for the rest of European or
Italian football.
"There are now those who can enlarge their squads to the point of
infinity, like Berlusconi (Milan president), and those who cannot,"
said Gianni Rivera, the ex-Italian international."This means in a few
years there will be a dictatorial regime in soccer.Milan will be like
Real Madrid in the Fifties. They won in Spain and abroad without
meeting resistance. But I don't think people enjoyed it very much."
jeff
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13.213 | 1930s management for 1990s economics is doomed. | TRUCKS::SANT | See that? That's you, that is. | Thu Apr 09 1992 18:23 | 28 |
|
I accept your point that there are (and always have been..) the
haves and the have-nots in our own and other football leagues,
but I don't think it is reasonable in this or any other form
of "business" to expect others more fortunate to support the
mis-management and misconduct of other "controllers". Notice
I avoid the term Chairman, Director, etc..
Maybe it is time for the smaller "never-weres but still want-to-
bes" to take their economic (small 'e'..) responsibilities more
seriously if they wish to stay in "business". Part-time is certainly
one very real and do-able alternative. What about ground-sharing?
Sides like Bury, Rochdale, Wigan (from my own neck-of-the-woods)
could make a serious effort to sell one of their few assets (ie.
their ground..) and form a joint venture of producing a, say, 20K
all-seater stadium for their joint use and to provide a venue
for other money-making activities. Only a thought.
Football clubs must develop a management and pay structure
suitable for the modern environment. Those that don't will
follow Aldershot into oblivion with ever-mounting debt and
a blind refusal to accept that it will ever happen to them.
To blame "big clubs" for what happened to Aldershot is, imo, very
easy to do and avoids facing up to the real responsibility of
the clubs most affected by tough economic facts.
Andy.
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13.214 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Thu Apr 09 1992 19:10 | 28 |
13.215 | | UTRUST::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Thu Apr 09 1992 19:31 | 16 |
| Here's a very bad analogy but, being a contractor I have my own
'company'. DEC uses contractors now and again, sometimes for quite
important tasks. I wouldn't, however, expect DEC to bail be out if I
got (whaddyamean IF!) into financial trouble and was threatened with
liquidation. That's the way it goes. Similarly, why should the big
clubs bail out small ones who can't manage their affairs properly. It
may be bad luck, it may be due to fraud etc. etc... but really they
have to look after themselves. If I can't contract anymore, DEC look
elsewhere, if Aldershot go under, the other clubs will always find
their youngsters/new blood somewhere else.
It's tough, but there ya go,
Stevo
(my word, is this the first serious note I've ever written? I must go
for a lie-down :-) )
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13.216 | | RIGHTO::HAIGH | John Major on yer bike! | Thu Apr 09 1992 20:08 | 6 |
|
Basically the question is "Should football be run as a business?"
IF the answer is Yes, then the previous note is probably right.
Steve
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13.217 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Thu Apr 09 1992 20:30 | 18 |
|
re .215
I agree, that is a bad analogy ;^). Your relationship to DEC is
entirely different to that between clubs in the football league, since,
as a contractor, you are always subordinate to the companies that
utilise your services. In the football league, the smaller teams do not
intend to be subordinate (since they would all like to keep their best
players) but have to do so in order to survive. In other words, as a
contractor, you set out to sell your services to other companies,
whereas the smaller football clubs have no choice but to sell their
best assets.
Once again, I am not suggesting that bigger clubs should subsidise the
minnows but that the new wealth coming into the game should be used for
the benefit of all and not just the ones already at the top.
jeff
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13.218 | Thatcherite philosophy | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Thu Apr 09 1992 20:50 | 12 |
|
Re last few, so the rich get richer and the poor go to the wall.
I do not want to see the day when you have an elite of 4 or 5 clubs and
nobody with any chance of joining them. That's on the cards and it
will destroy football.
Gary.
PS I'm still looking for the dates for the playoff semi finals and
finals. a friend is planning on going over so help would be
appreciated.
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13.219 | | YUPPY::MCCABE | Mike | Thu Apr 09 1992 21:31 | 21 |
| >>Re last few, so the rich get richer and the poor go to the wall.
It doesn't mean that at all, but it does mean that alot of (so called)
professional clubs have got to sort themselves out financially and
organisationally. This may mean, as someone has already said, that a
number of clubs go part-time and that the league is totally reorganised.
If this leads to a 'fitter', better, Football League then I'm all in
favour of it.
However, the major problem for football clubs, money, could be resolved
(or swept under the carpet for a few more years) if more people got off
their backsides and went to see a game on Saturday, hence putting money
into the game, rather than pontificate about it.
Mike M
P.S. By the way, Steve (I think) football has been a business for over
a hundred years. In fact, ever since they started paying players and
charging for entrance. The problem is, in that time it hasn't been a
very well run business.
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13.220 | Ground share is a solution | SALES::THILL | | Thu Apr 09 1992 21:59 | 28 |
| Ground sharing is one thing clubs can do to help ease the cash crunch.
Not having grown up with football the way most of you have (I'm American)
it seems odd to me that just about every club (at least in Divs 1 & 2)
own their own stadium, but some of them are clearly sub-standard. The
only ground share I can think of is Wimbledon and Palace, but Palace are
the ones who own Selhurst Park, right? The Wombles played somewhere else
last year.
What about an Italian style situation? Milan and Inter both play at San
Siro, and as far as I know, they are equals, not landlord/tennant. It's
also the case with other clubs in the same city such as Genoa/Sampdoria,
Lazio/Roma, and Torino/Juventus. All of these stadia are safe, modern and
comfortable. Why couldn't two clubs with old, outdated grounds in the same
city or area (10 miles or so) sell the land and share a common new,
modern stadium? Sure, there is the tradition that the club has been
here since the beginning of time, but this directly relates to clubs'
bond schemes trying to renovate the park a section at a time. Especially
after Hillsborough, it seems that the Blades and Owls could have gotten
together and agreed on a convenient site, with parking, rest room
facilities all seats, etc. and sold their grounds and shared the new
one. One club would be away when the other is home. For Derbies, each
would have their own "home" match, just as if they were playig at
different grounds.
This would go a long way if England is interested in hosing events like
the European Championships or the World Cup in the future.
Tom
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13.221 | | R2ME2::HINXMAN | I'll just sit here and rust | Fri Apr 10 1992 00:42 | 18 |
| re .220
Given the shortage of land in England (remember that the population
density of Great Britain is ten times that of the U.S.A.) and
the complexities of the planning (zoning in American-speak) process,
it is going to be very difficult to find a new site for a new
stadium.
A football ground would be right up there along with nuclear reactors
and prisons on people's Not In My Back Yard List.
You also need to take into account the practicalities of transport.
People are not going to travel far to watch, say, Stockport County.
Suppose Stockport were to sell their ground and rent time at Maine
Road. Wouldn't most people say, "If I'm going to make the effort
to get to Maine Road, I'm going to do it when Manchester City are
at home there"?
Tony
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13.222 | | RIGHTO::HAIGH | Britons. The ultimate masochists. | Fri Apr 10 1992 16:55 | 15 |
| >P.S. By the way, Steve (I think) football has been a business for over
>a hundred years. In fact, ever since they started paying players and
>charging for entrance. The problem is, in that time it hasn't been a
>very well run business.
Well maybe, but how many businesses have limped along like many
football clubs and still survived? Mismanagement/no management on the
scale seen at Tottenham, Aldershot, Wolves a few years ago, and <fill in
your list of other teams here> would, in the normal business world get
you no further than the receivers door. (Although DEC seem to get away
with it!) So even though technically football is a business, it isn't
really run like one.
Steve
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13.223 | They do it in Italy... | SALES::THILL | | Fri Apr 10 1992 22:34 | 13 |
| re .221
Good point about the land, Tony. What about Italy then? I would imagine
that the population density is similar to England. San Siro is right in
the city centre of Milan, so they must have had to knock down some
buildings, etc. to build it. For ground sharing, I was thinking more of
say, Man U and Man City sharing a ground, since at least they are in
the same city. Manchester was in the running for the Olympics, so if
they ever got them, it might make sense for both clubs to share a new
olympic stadium. Of course fans would miss the "atmosphere" of Old
Trafford and Maine Road...
Tom
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13.224 | Results & Table 11-Apr | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Lovely!! Milky Milky! | Mon Apr 13 1992 14:51 | 35 |
| Arsenal 4 - 1 Crystal Palace
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Liverpool
Everton 0 - 2 Sheffield Utd.
Leeds Utd. 3 - 0 Chelsea
Notts County 1 - 0 Coventry City
Oldham Athletic 5 - 1 Luton Town
QPR 1 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 0 Man City
West Ham Utd. 4 - 0 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 38 19 15 4 68 35 72 33
2 Man Utd. 36 19 14 3 57 26 71 31
3 Sheffield Wed. 38 19 10 9 58 48 67 10
4 Arsenal 38 17 13 8 70 43 64 27
5 Liverpool 37 15 13 9 44 35 58 9
6 Man City 38 16 10 12 50 45 58 5
7 Aston Villa 38 15 9 14 43 39 54 4
8 Crystal Palace 38 13 13 12 50 59 52 -9
9 Nottingham For 36 14 9 13 53 50 51 3
10 Sheffield Utd. 37 14 8 15 57 55 50 2
11 Wimbledon 38 12 13 13 47 48 49 -1
12 Chelsea 38 12 13 13 45 53 49 -8
13 Tottenham Hotspur 37 14 6 17 51 52 48 -1
14 QPR 38 10 17 11 43 43 47 0
15 Oldham Athletic 38 13 8 17 60 61 47 -1
16 Everton 38 11 13 14 45 45 46 0
17 Norwich City 38 11 11 16 46 58 44 -12
18 Southampton 36 11 10 15 35 48 43 -13
19 Coventry City 38 10 11 17 34 39 41 -5
20 Luton Town 37 8 11 18 31 65 35 -34
21 Notts County 38 8 10 20 36 56 34 -20
22 West Ham Utd. 36 7 11 18 33 53 32 -20
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13.225 | 14 April Scores | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Wed Apr 15 1992 14:33 | 12 |
| Last night :-
Luton 2 Forest 1
Sheff U 2 Spurs 0
West Ham 0 Soton 1
Luton carry on the Houdini act ...
West Ham doomed ...
Coventry set to do a Sheffield Wednesday ...
Sheff Utd in 8th spot !!!
jb.
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13.226 | Table ? | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Wed Apr 15 1992 17:12 | 5 |
|
What's the bottom of the first looking like now, he asked hopefully ?
The Hatters have had their sights set on the sky blues for a while :-)
Adam.
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13.227 | Coventry in deep..... | TRUCKS::SANT | Drainpipetrousertastic! | Wed Apr 15 1992 18:08 | 8 |
|
..er..from memory..
Luton three points behind, same number of games played.
Notts.County looking almost doomed. West Ham not yet but
almost mathematically doomed.
Andy.
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13.228 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | | Wed Apr 15 1992 18:35 | 16 |
| Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
16 Everton 38 11 13 14 45 45 46 0
17 Southampton 37 12 10 15 36 48 46 -12
18 Norwich City 38 11 11 16 46 58 44 -12
19 Coventry City 38 10 11 17 34 39 41 -5
20 Luton Town 38 9 11 18 33 66 38 -33
21 Notts County 38 8 10 20 36 56 34 -20
22 West Ham Utd. 37 7 11 19 33 54 32 -21
It looks like West Ham & Notts, plus either Luton or Coventry - but
Norwich, Southampton or ....Everton (arrrrgggghhh !!!) could still go
down. Everton play Coventry away on Saturday and a defeat there could
make things 'interesting'.
Paul
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13.229 | More games = more money | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Thu Apr 16 1992 12:33 | 14 |
13.230 | one eyed monster | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Yogic flying, new olympic event? | Thu Apr 16 1992 12:34 | 10 |
|
jeff,
i dont think that the role of television should be discounted in this.
Increasingly these days, big matches are played as and when a viewing
audience can be found rather than when this would be most convenient
for the clubs themselves.
Ian.
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13.231 | Less Money - we must have more games. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Apr 16 1992 13:05 | 5 |
| Getting the R Cup out of the way before Christmas will ease League game
pressure. Reducing the League size will also work, but that's less
money coming in.
jb.
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13.232 | | RIGHTO::HAIGH | Britons. The ultimate masochists. | Thu Apr 16 1992 13:49 | 16 |
|
While I agree with you Jeff, the league program is too crowded
however,
> With the European Championships this summer, what's the chance of the
>British players being completely knackered before they start?
The Germans, Dutch (and probably several nations) will have the
same problems (if not worse) this year. The Italians didn't qualify for
the European Championships, and consequently their league will finish
very late. Most of the German team plays in the Italian first
division + some 'quite' important Dutch players!
Steve
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13.233 | Easter Results & table | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Lovely!! Milky Milky! | Tue Apr 21 1992 15:35 | 90 |
| Here are the Easter results from the 1st Div.
Thur 16th Apr
Man Utd. 1 - 0 Southampton
Sat 18th Apr
Chelsea 2 - 1 QPR
Coventry City 0 - 1 Everton
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Liverpool 0 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Luton Town 1 - 1 Man Utd.
Man City 2 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Norwich City 0 - 1 Notts County
Nottingham For 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 1 Arsenal
Southampton 0 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 2 Wimbledon
Mon 20th Apr
Arsenal 4 - 0 Liverpool
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Chelsea
Everton 1 - 2 Man City
Leeds Utd. 2 - 0 Coventry City :-)
Man Utd. 1 - 2 Nottingham For :-)
Notts County 1 - 3 Sheffield Utd.
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
QPR 2 - 1 Luton Town
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 0 Norwich City
West Ham Utd. 0 - 2 Crystal Palace
Wimbledon 0 - 1 Southampton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 40 20 16 4 70 35 76 35
2 Man Utd. 39 20 15 4 60 29 75 31
3 Sheffield Wed. 40 21 10 9 61 48 73 13
4 Arsenal 40 18 14 8 75 44 68 31
5 Man City 40 18 10 12 54 46 64 8
6 Liverpool 39 15 14 10 44 39 59 5
7 Sheffield Utd. 40 16 9 15 63 57 57 6
8 Nottingham For 39 16 9 14 58 53 57 5
9 Aston Villa 40 16 9 15 46 42 57 4
10 Crystal Palace 40 14 14 12 52 59 56 -7
11 Chelsea 40 13 13 14 48 57 52 -9
12 Oldham Athletic 40 14 9 17 61 61 51 0
13 Tottenham Hotspur 40 15 6 19 54 57 51 -3
14 QPR 40 11 17 12 46 46 50 0
15 Everton 40 12 13 15 47 47 49 0
16 Wimbledon 40 12 13 15 49 52 49 -3
17 Southampton 40 13 10 17 37 50 49 -13
18 Norwich City 40 11 11 18 46 61 44 -15
19 Coventry City 40 10 11 19 34 42 41 -8
20 Luton Town 40 9 12 19 35 69 39 -34
21 Notts County 40 9 10 21 38 59 37 -21
22 West Ham Utd. 39 7 11 21 33 58 32 -25
At the top, it's no longer a two horse race. Sheffield Weds. are now
only 3 points from the top and could snatch it if the Mancs & Leeds continue
with their jitters. I reckon we won't know the champions until 4-45 on May 2.
At the bottom Wast Ham still have a statistical chance of avoiding the
drop, but they must win all their games, and hope Coventry lose theirs, and
the victories must be with a sizeable goal average. I hope they start this by
turning over Man U tomorrow 'though I can't see it, however they may take a
point.
Nott's County too have to rely on Coventry and win their last 2.
Luton can still overtake Coventry & Norwich but I don't think they will.
Who'd have thought on Mar 11 that within 5 weeks, Sheffield Utd would
be 7th. On Mar 11 they were 18th looking like going down:
18 Sheffield Utd. 30 9 7 14 44 50 34 -6
and today:
7 Sheffield Utd. 40 16 9 15 63 57 57 6
Last 10 games: 10 7 2 1 19 7 23 12
That's 2 years in a row they've done that. If they could start out a bit better
they could be a potential Challenger for the championship.
Al
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13.234 | JMHO, of course. | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Thu Apr 23 1992 15:08 | 34 |
|
If you didn't already know, here's last night's results:
Forest 1 - 1 Liverpool
Hammers 1 - 0 Man Utd
Whilst an exciting finish to the season is now assured, surely this has
been one of the poorest championships, in terms of quality, in recent
memory. That a mediocre team like Sheff Wed. should still be in with a
chance of winning the title with only two games left, is an indictment
of the quality of the other teams in the first division this season.
For a long time, the title has been considered a two-horse race between
Man. Utd and Leeds and one of these two should win it. However,
normally in these situations, the teams involved are winning almost
every game and it is the team that drops points by drawing the odd game
who loses out. As we all know, in the last couple of months Leeds and
Man Utd have gone out of their way to present the title to each other
on a plate by consistently failing to beat the divisions weaker teams.
For example, take Man Utd's last four games:
Southampton (H)
Luton (A)
Forest (H)
West Ham (A)
Hardly a daunting prospect, yet they took only four points out of the
twelve on offer. This is not the stuff of a great championship team and
why I believe this has been a poor quality season.
There, that should stir up a hornet's nest 8^).
jeff
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13.235 | Just not good enough. | NEWOA::BURTON | | Thu Apr 23 1992 15:20 | 8 |
|
Re: -1
Well said that man. English football is slipping further and further
behind the rest of Europe, let's hope this will change next season.
Nige.
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13.236 | Putting it another way | XSTACY::PATTISON | Tree! | Thu Apr 23 1992 16:41 | 6 |
|
I'd just like to point out that if all the matches in the league
this season had been played in reverse order, with exactly
the same results.... what a good end to the season we'd be having.
Dave
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13.237 | Inquisitive Yank | CTHQ2::LEARY | Six, two, and even. | Thu Apr 23 1992 21:29 | 11 |
| Hello,
I am an occasional RON of this conference am a semi-ignorant ( about
English football!) American who will be in England from May2-May10.
Can anyone point me to the remaining 1st division league schedule
(including FA Cup final)? I might be able to catch a title-deciding
match on TV! ( I take it United, Leeds and Wednesday might still be
in the hunt by then??)
Thanks much,
Mike
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13.238 | unpredictable | SALES::THILL | | Thu Apr 23 1992 21:37 | 16 |
| What are you guys complaining about? This is an exciting end to the
season with 3 teams having a chance at winning with only 2 games left.
Would you rather have it like Italy, where AC Milan is running away
with it, and it has been a foregone conclusion for several weeks?
Sure, it looks dubious when a team backs its way in to the title only
because someone else lost. No doubt that Manchester United is a stronger
side than West Ham, but the result didn't show it. If the higher placed
team won all the games it "should" things would get boring very quickly. I
give credit to the lower teams (out of the relegation zone) who have
nothing to play for, other than to spoil it for someone else. Sure, it
would be easire for them to just "go through the motions" and put an
end to a frustrating season, but they are making it tough for the
would-be champions.
Tom
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13.239 | Another Yank | SALES::THILL | | Thu Apr 23 1992 21:45 | 5 |
| re .237
Hi Mike! Good to see you over here!
Tom
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13.240 | can't wait to see me first Eng.pitch! | CTHQ2::LEARY | Six, two, and even. | Thu Apr 23 1992 22:22 | 8 |
| Hi Tom,
Jest was checkin' up on ya. 8^). Actually was also looking for London-
based matches as well as the top three as you pointed out to me.
Are you sure Sheffield Wed is at Liverpool on 5/2 or is Wed at home
that date ( makes for a longer tube ride!)
MikeL
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13.241 | I wish I was going! | SALES::THILL | | Thu Apr 23 1992 23:22 | 10 |
| Mike,
I think that game is at Sheffield (The home team is always listed
first). As for games London, Maybe supporters of those clubs could fill
you in on which clubs are home those weekends. Seems to me there would
be a few in London to choose from. Maybe the individual club notes for
Chelsea, QPR, West Ham, Arsenal, Spurs, Crystal Palace and Wimbledon
might also be worth a look.
Tom
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13.242 | Thanks! | CTHQ2::LEARY | Six, two, and even. | Thu Apr 23 1992 23:53 | 8 |
| Tom,
Would you believe that I might have two tickets for the FA Cup final
on the 9th? A friend of a friend, etc. in London has access to tix
and I'll find ouit tomorrow if they are available. Talk about
beginner's luck ( hope this doesn't piss off the local chaps!)!
MikeL
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13.243 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Fri Apr 24 1992 12:46 | 24 |
|
<<< Note 13.238 by SALES::THILL >>>
-< unpredictable >-
> What are you guys complaining about? This is an exciting end to the
> season with 3 teams having a chance at winning with only 2 games left.
> Would you rather have it like Italy, where AC Milan is running away
> with it, and it has been a foregone conclusion for several weeks?
Of course not. The championship would indeed be boring if it were
dominated by one or two sides, year after year and who won practically
every game. The competition would stagnate very quickly if this were
the case (see my earlier note about Italians worried about the
dominance of Milan).
However, this is not to say that it is preferable to have a division of
twenty mediocre teams of comparable quality rather than a mix of teams
(hopefully variable from season to season), in which the one's at the
top play good quality, consistent football. I would argue that this
season we have seen something of a levelling-out of abilities and
unfortunately, that level has not been very high. After all, could you
really see Sheffield Wednesday winning the European Cup?
jeff
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13.244 | Combinations | FUTURS::FLETCHER | | Fri Apr 24 1992 15:23 | 17 |
| In the paper today it states that ITV have put in a million quids bid
to televise the matches involving the top 3 on May 2 , if all 3 are
still involved. This would mean switching all 3 matches to 5 o'clockish
, and all 3 being played simultaneously , ITV switching from gound to
ground as the action develops. This is by no means certain. If any team
drops out of contention at the weekend then there match will be played
as normal , also if Norwich need points to stay up then the whole thing
is scraped and they all play as normal. After all these considerations
the Police somewhere will probably say no.
Probably no chance at all of that coming off then. It seems strange to
me that they show an event that last 9 months and when it comes down to
a winner being decided its not televised. Its a bit like not showing
the Wimbledon final after showing all the rest of it , or stopping the
broadcast of the snooker final with a couple of frames to go.
Nigel
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13.245 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | | Fri Apr 24 1992 15:45 | 14 |
|
Re .244
It sounds like ITV are trying to do what R5 sometimes do - ie start
their commentary at one game, then if that gets 'over-taken' by a more
exciting game, switch over to that one. I think it happened during the
FA cup when they eventually ended up at the Wrexham - Arsenal game.
It works okay on the radio, but I can't see it working with Telly -
especially when it involves messing round with kick-off times. As usual
the true supporters lose out. Why don't they just play them on Saturday
afternoon and show high-lights of all three/two games early evening ?
Paul
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13.246 | Slight problem | FUTURS::FLETCHER | | Fri Apr 24 1992 15:58 | 7 |
| RE:-1
Good idea Paul - why didnt they think of that. The problem with that is
that if its left up to the ITV regions to decide if we see any highlight ,
then anywhere south of Stoke wont get to see then.
Nigel
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13.247 | Whatever you do, DON'T TELL CUNNO :-) | SALES::THILL | | Fri Apr 24 1992 21:19 | 15 |
| re .242
That's great, Mike! But whatever you do, don't let "Cunno" find out!
He'll try to convince you that, in order to fully appreciate the FA
Cup, you have to be familiar with the prowess of Liverpool, and all of
the honours Liverpool won in the last 25 years, all recited from
memory. As a special bonus, Cunno will even tell you when the last time
Manchester United won the league, if you didn't already know. No doubt
you'll also be led in prayer for that diety of dieties, John Aldridge,
aka TGA, who is currenly with a middle of the road 2nd division club.
After visiting the shrine to Aldo, you'll be asked to don a lose fitting
robe and shake a tambourine at the airport, beging for coins from
passers-by. I hope you know what you're getting into :-)
Tom
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13.248 | First past the post is what counts | ESSB::SONEILL | | Mon Apr 27 1992 14:33 | 12 |
| re: .234
I agree with Alex Ferguson's comments yesterday. The league is as
tough as ever and at the end of the day Leeds winning total will not
be far off previous year's winners. Are we assuming that a league
without Liverpool or Arsenal challenging is of less quality because
these teams didn't have the quality or consistency to challenge for
honours this year? I heard David O'Leary comment after last week's
game Vs Liverpool that it is the WORST Liverpool team he has played
against in his 19 years at Arsenal.
Shane
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13.249 | Div 2 | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Mon Apr 27 1992 16:12 | 6 |
|
OK, we all know what the table looks like. Any chance of seeing how
the second stands at present ?
Adam
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13.250 | Best team won, but ... | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer @DBO 827-2286 | Mon Apr 27 1992 16:20 | 12 |
| <<< Note 13.248 by ESSB::SONEILL >>>
-< First past the post is what counts >-
> tough as ever and at the end of the day Leeds winning total will not
> be far off previous year's winners. Are we assuming that a league
Last year's winning total was 85 points from 38 games.
Leeds' max will be 82 points from 42 games.
Factually yours,
Cunno II
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13.251 | We're waiting ... | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Mon Apr 27 1992 16:33 | 2 |
|
Talking of which, where is Cunno today ? Hung over, perhaps ?
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13.252 | Position in Div. 2 | JUMBLY::SAWYER | | Mon Apr 27 1992 16:46 | 10 |
| IPSWICH Town are Champions of Div 2 - come on you blues!!! or Town!!! and
will go up with Leicester or Middlesbrough, one of these to join Cambridge,
Derby, Charlton or Blackburn Rovers! in the play-offs I think.
Looks as if 3 out of the following will go down Brighton, Plymouth, Oxford,
Newcastle, Grimsby or Sunderland.
Let me know if I've missed anyone!!
Steve
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13.253 | Some of us have work to do :-( | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Apr 27 1992 19:13 | 47 |
| At last The Div 1 Scores & Table confirming Leeds As Champs :-)
West Ham & Notts County drop after 1 season. It's sad to see the Hammers go down
as they've played some attractive footy this season.
Sat 25th Apr
Chelsea 1 - 1 Arsenal
Coventry City 1 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Luton Town 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Man City 2 - 0 Notts County
Norwich City 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Nottingham For 1 - 1 QPR
Southampton 1 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 3 Everton ( Spurs 3 - 0 up at HT )
Sun 26th Apr
Liverpool 2 - 0 Man Utd.
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 3 Leeds Utd. CHAMPIONS
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 41 21 16 4 73 37 79 36 C
2 Man Utd. 41 20 15 6 60 32 75 28
3 Sheffield Wed. 41 21 11 9 62 49 74 13
4 Arsenal 41 18 15 8 76 45 69 31
5 Man City 41 19 10 12 56 46 67 10
6 Liverpool 41 16 15 10 47 40 63 7
7 Nottingham For 41 16 11 14 60 55 59 5
8 Sheffield Utd. 41 16 9 16 65 60 57 5
9 Aston Villa 41 16 9 16 46 44 57 2
10 Crystal Palace 41 14 15 12 53 60 57 -7
11 Chelsea 41 13 14 14 49 58 53 -9
12 Tottenham Hotspur 41 15 7 19 57 60 52 -3
13 Southampton 41 14 10 17 38 50 52 -12
14 QPR 41 11 18 12 47 47 51 0
15 Oldham Athletic 41 14 9 18 61 62 51 -1
16 Everton 41 12 14 15 50 50 50 0
17 Wimbledon 41 12 14 15 50 53 50 -3
18 Norwich City 41 11 12 18 47 62 45 -15
19 Coventry City 41 11 11 19 35 42 44 -7
20 Luton Town 41 10 12 19 37 69 42 -32
21 Notts County 41 9 10 22 38 61 37 -23 R
22 West Ham Utd. 41 8 11 22 34 59 35 -25 R
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13.254 | New system. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United AFC, League Champions 1991-92 | Wed Apr 29 1992 18:49 | 9 |
| For next years FL (Divs 2 to 4) a new points system may be used:-
lose 0 pts.
draw 1 pt.
win by 1 goal 3 pts
.......2 goals 4 pts.
.......3 or more goals 5 pts.
jb.
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13.255 | Conference goes to the final game again.. | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Fri May 01 1992 18:17 | 14 |
|
Last night:
Redbridge 0 Wycombe 5
Good result but it looks like Colchester will be going up. If they beat
already-relegated Barrow tomorrow then Wycombe will have to beat Witton
by at least 9 goals.
The League decided to increase it's number of teams by two; since
Aldershot have now disappeared why don't they allow two teams to go up
from the Conference. Just a thought.
jeff
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13.256 | | NEWOA::MORAN | Wey not likely!! | Fri May 01 1992 19:27 | 5 |
| re .252 -< Position in Div. 2 >-
You left out Grimsby and Port Vale. Sunderland are safe.
Tim
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13.257 | Who else ? | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri May 01 1992 20:44 | 4 |
| Has any team come straight out of Div 2 and won the Championship ? Who
else has done it after 2 seasons ?
jb.
|
13.258 | Useless fact no. 1 | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Fri May 01 1992 20:45 | 5 |
|
Forest got promoted in 1977, then won the Championship in 1978.
jeff
|
13.259 | I Only Know of Two | ESSB::BLONG | The Scousers Trophy Cabinet is Empty | Fri May 01 1992 20:47 | 5 |
13.260 | Final Results & Table .... Luton finally go down. | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue May 05 1992 14:28 | 41 |
| Saturday 2nd May 1992
Arsenal 5 - 1 Southampton
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Coventry City
Everton 2 - 1 Chelsea
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 Norwich City
Man Utd. 3 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Notts County 2 - 1 Luton Town
Oldham Athletic 2 - 5 Man City
QPR 1 - 0 Crystal Palace
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 0 Liverpool
West Ham Utd. 3 - 0 Nottingham For
Wimbledon 3 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Leeds Utd. 42 22 16 4 74 37 82 37
2 Man Utd. 42 21 15 6 63 33 78 30
3 Sheffield Wed. 42 21 12 9 62 49 75 13
4 Arsenal 42 19 15 8 81 46 72 35
5 Man City 42 20 10 12 61 48 70 13
6 Liverpool 42 16 16 10 47 40 64 7
7 Aston Villa 42 17 9 16 48 44 60 4
8 Nottingham For 42 16 11 15 60 58 59 2
9 Sheffield Utd. 42 16 9 17 65 63 57 2
10 Crystal Palace 42 14 15 13 53 61 57 -8
11 QPR 42 12 18 12 48 47 54 1
12 Everton 42 13 14 15 52 51 53 1
13 Wimbledon 42 13 14 15 53 53 53 0
14 Chelsea 42 13 14 15 50 60 53 -10
15 Tottenham Hotspur 42 15 7 20 58 63 52 -5
16 Southampton 42 14 10 18 39 55 52 -16
17 Oldham Athletic 42 14 9 19 63 67 51 -4
18 Norwich City 42 11 12 19 47 63 45 -16
19 Coventry City 42 11 11 20 35 44 44 -9
20 Luton Town 42 10 12 20 38 71 42 -33
21 Notts County 42 10 10 22 40 62 40 -22
22 West Ham Utd. 42 9 11 22 37 59 38 -22
Al
|
13.261 | The Ups & Downs of '92 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue May 05 1992 14:29 | 50 |
| Here is a round up of the ups & downs for the Barclays League
Division 1
Champions Leeds Utd. European Champions Cup
Runners Up Man Utd. UEFA Cup
3rd Sheffield Wed. UEFA Cup
Relegated Luton Town, Notts County, West Ham Utd.
Division 2
Champions Ipswich Town
Runners Up Middlesbrough
Play Offs Derby County, Leicester City, Cambridge Utd., Blackburn Rovers
Relegated Port Vale, Brighton & Hove Albion, Plymouth Argyle
Division 3
Champions Brentford
Runners Up Birmingham City
Play Offs Stoke City, Huddersfield Town, Stockport County, Peterborough Utd
Relegated Darlington, Shrewsbury Town, Torquay Utd, Bury
Division 4
Champions Burnley
Runners Up Rotherham
Promoted Mansfield Town
Play Offs Blackpool, Scunthorpe, Crewe Alex., Barnet/Rochdale
Rochdale play Burnley in the last normal fixture of the season
tonight. They need to win in order to take the final play off
spot from Barnet. Whatever happens this has been an excellent
first season for Barnet as a League side.
GM Vauxhall Conference
Champions Colchester Utd.
Runners Up Wycombe Wanderers.
Play Off dates in the next note
Al
|
13.262 | Play Off Dates | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue May 05 1992 14:30 | 37 |
| Sunday May 10
Div 2 Blackburn Rovers v Derby County
Cambridge Utd v Leicester City
Div 3 Stockport County v Stoke City
Div 4 Barnet/Rochdale v Blackpool
Crewe Alexandra v Scunthorpe Utd
Monday May 11
Div 3 Peterborough Utd v Huddersfield Town
Wednesday May 13
Div 2 Derby County v Blackburn Rovers
Leicester City v Cambridge Utd
Div 3 Stoke City v Stockport County
Div 4 Blackpool v Barnet/Rochdale
Scunthorpe Utd v Crewe Alexandra
Thursday May 14
Div 3 Huddersfield Town v Peterborough Utd
Finals ( At Wembley Stadium )
Div 4 Saturday May 23
Div 3 Sunday May 24
Div 2 Monday May 25
Best of luck to all teams
Al
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13.263 | | PEKING::NAGLEJ | | Tue May 05 1992 15:00 | 12 |
|
Its a shame about Wycombe losing out on goal difference. I reckon
the League should consider putting Wycombe up with Colchester as
both teams are miles ahead of the rest this season.
To have to do it all again next season is a bit harsh. The Wycombe
team must be a tad cheesed off.
As Jimmy Greaves said, "The conference is the hardest division to get
out of."
JN.
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13.264 | They might think its all over | FUTURS::FLETCHER | | Tue May 05 1992 15:56 | 5 |
| Re:Wycombe - What are they going to do about Aldershots place in the
league. There are mutterings about Wycombe taking their place.
Nigel
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13.265 | Simple. | TRUCKS::SANT | Charity? Don't mind if I do, mate.. | Tue May 05 1992 16:04 | 5 |
|
Aldershot <=> Colchester. No relegation this year from Div.4 -
lucky Carlisle. Football League back to 93 members..
Andy.
|
13.266 | Wembley Patch??!! | KBOMFG::TANNER | Vorsprung durch Guinness | Tue May 05 1992 18:38 | 4 |
|
I noticed that the Wembley patch didn't look in great shape during an
American Football game last week, and this was at the start, it needs
to improve a bit for saturday... Is kickoff 3pm gmt????
|
13.267 | Wembley is crap | FUTURS::FLETCHER | | Tue May 05 1992 19:22 | 8 |
| It didnt look too smart in the RL cup final on saturday - the pitch was
almost bare in some places and you see could all those stupid marking
they use in AM football - plus the pitch was covered for the Queen
concert a week or so back.
Time for a national footy stadium if you ask me.
Nigel
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13.268 | Kick off 3.19 pm, adverts allowing | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Tue May 05 1992 20:25 | 7 |
| Now the league Season has finished (bar Rochdale - Burnley tonight and
the play offs), thoughts turn to next season. For the Premier League,
will Saturday at 3 kick off be the exception rather than the rule ? Can
we look forward to Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday afternoon and
Monday nights, decided a week in advance ? I hope not.
jb.
|
13.269 | news ? | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Mon May 11 1992 17:32 | 5 |
|
What's been happening so far in the play-offs then ?
Adam.
|
13.270 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Charity? Don't mind if I do, mate.. | Mon May 11 1992 17:50 | 19 |
|
erm..
Div.2 play-offs
Cambridge 1-1 Leicester
Blackburn 4-2 Derby (Blackburn 2-0 down after 15 mins!!!)
Div.3 play-offs
Stockport 1-0 Stoke
P'boro v Huddersfield tonight
Div.4 play-offs
Crewe 2-2 Scunthorpe
Barnet 1-0 Blackpool
Andy.
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13.271 | | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Tue May 12 1992 12:31 | 8 |
|
Div. 3 play-off:
Peterborough 2 - 2 Huddersfield
Posh equalised in the 88th minute.
jeff
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13.272 | Leicester vs Blackburn | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Thu May 14 1992 12:25 | 14 |
|
Div. 2 play-offs:
Derby 2 - 1 Blackburn ( 4 - 5 on agg)
Leicester 5 - 0 Cambridge ( 6 - 1 on agg)
The game at the Baseball ground seemed like a cracker; Derby had plenty
of chances to score in the last few minutes, including one that smacked
against the crossbar. 3 - 1 would have seen them through. Leicester
stuffed Cambridge after United swapped a defender for a striker early
in the second half (they were already 2 - 0 down, though).
jeff
|
13.273 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | | Thu May 14 1992 14:06 | 8 |
|
Derby could also be in trouble with the League after one of there
supporters thumped Speedie after the final whistle.
Strange that, as I thought Speedie was one of the most
loved/respected/admired players in the England........ :-)
Paul
|
13.274 | At last | CHEFS::HOUSEB | | Thu May 14 1992 16:33 | 8 |
| According to the Mirror :
Speedie said he was punched in the face twice and kicked up the arse
once. A Derby fan has been arrested in connection with the incident.
I'm chuffed really, I find Speedie an irritating little shite.
Brian.
|
13.275 | Not condoning violence but.... | PLUNDR::LOWEG | Don't believe a word | Thu May 14 1992 21:09 | 17 |
|
Well well well, it has taken a long time coming but I think it was
inevitable that Speedie would end up getting a good hiding from a
spectator.
Every club he has played for he has goaded the opposing teams
supporters. I have seen him doing it at Newcastle and only the "safety"
fences stopped him from being lynched.. There is nothing worse than
being gestured at by somebody you can't hold of and they knowing full
well that you can't, which unfortunately Speedie seemed to specialise
in..
For those of you who don't know the feeling imagine your driving along
in a mini and a flash tw*t pulls along side you in a Porsche then
directs a 5 knuckle shuffle at you and speeds off. Very frustrating
indeed..
Gary..
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13.276 | Cheat to win; if it fails, whinge | SUBURB::INV_LIBRARY | Who hell he?!? | Fri May 15 1992 12:35 | 14 |
|
After watching the UEFA cup final and fulminating at the spectacular
diving of some of the Torino players, I settled down to watch the
play-off games expecting to see a good English cup tie; lots of
physical effort, hard but fair.
Pa! No chance. First thing I see is a great five yard leap in the area
by Speedie, followed by him practically assaulting the ref. for not
giving a penalty. The ref. should have booked him for the dive
(cheating) then sent him off for the protest.
Failing that, he should have smacked him straight in the gob.
jeff
|
13.277 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Fri May 15 1992 13:51 | 21 |
|
Div.3 play-offs
Stoke 1 - 1 Stockport (1 - 2 on Agg) **
Huddersfield 1 - 2 Peterborough (3 - 4 on Agg)
Div.4 play-offs
Scunthorpe beat Crewe Scunthorpe go through **
Blackpool 2 - 0 Barnet (2 - 1 on Agg)
** Can somenone confirm the scores??
Finals ( At Wembley )
Div 4 Sat 23rd May Blackpool v Scunthorpe
Div 3 Sun 24th May Stockport v Peterborough
Div 2 Mon 25th May Blackburn v Leicester
Al
|
13.278 | Playoff Scores | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Leeds United. Champions 91-92 | Fri May 15 1992 13:53 | 4 |
| Scunthorpe 2 Crewe 0, 4-2 on aggregate I think
Stockport - Stoke is correct
jb.
|
13.279 | How did the play-offs finish?? | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue May 26 1992 15:00 | 6 |
| I know the Blackburn - Leicester Score, but anyone know the other play off
final scores??
Cheers
Al
|
13.280 | Full list... | TRUCKS::SANT | Charity? Don't mind if I do, mate.. | Tue May 26 1992 15:08 | 7 |
|
Peterboro 2 - 1 Stockport
Blackpool 1 - 1 Scunthorpe (Blackpool 4-3 on pens)
+ Blackburn 1 - 0 Leicester
Andy.
|
13.281 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Wed May 27 1992 14:06 | 6 |
| Thanks Andy,
Posh deserved it this year especially after their success in the
Rumbelows Cup.
Al
|
13.282 | Leeds ! Leeds ! Leeds ! | ISEQ::MKEENAN | | Mon Aug 17 1992 16:24 | 5 |
|
In the opening week of the new Premier league Leeds win .........
and Arsenal,Liverpool and Manchester United all lose!!!!!!
MK.
|
13.283 | Big five flop | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Mon Aug 17 1992 17:08 | 5 |
|
None of the big 5 managed to win this weekend. Looks like it'll be
another breakaway.
Gary
|
13.284 | Another season | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Thu Aug 20 1992 13:52 | 54 |
| My Usual results service starts here
Wed 19 Aug 1992
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Liverpool 2 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Man Utd. 0 - 3 Everton
Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Man City
Norwich City 2 - 1 Chelsea
Oldham Athletic 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
QPR 3 - 1 Southampton
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 0 Nottingham For
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 2 Coventry City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 2 2 0 0 6 3 6 3
2 Coventry City 2 2 0 0 4 1 6 3
3 Everton 2 1 1 0 4 1 4 3
4 QPR 2 1 1 0 4 2 4 2
5 Sheffield Wed. 2 1 1 0 3 1 4 2
6 Blackburn Rovers 2 1 1 0 4 3 4 1
7 Leeds Utd. 2 1 1 0 3 2 4 1
8 Ipswich Town 2 1 1 0 2 1 4 1
9 Middlesbrough 2 1 0 1 3 2 3 1
10 Sheffield Utd. 2 1 0 1 3 3 3 0
11 Liverpool 2 1 0 1 2 2 3 0
12 Nottingham For 2 1 0 1 1 2 3 -1
13 Crystal Palace 2 0 2 0 4 4 2 0
14 Aston Villa 2 0 2 0 2 2 2 0
15 Oldham Athletic 2 0 2 0 2 2 2 0
16 Chelsea 2 0 1 1 2 3 1 -1
17 Man City 2 0 1 1 1 3 1 -2
18 Southampton 2 0 1 1 1 3 1 -2
19 Tottenham Hotspur 2 0 1 1 0 2 1 -2
20 Wimbledon 2 0 0 2 1 3 0 -2
21 Arsenal 2 0 0 2 2 5 0 -3
22 Man Utd. 2 0 0 2 1 5 0 -4
So the season is less than a week old, and there are only 2 teams with a
100% record. Norwich & Coventry, and The Arse & Man U propping up the rest
without a point between them. I wonder what odds you'd have got on that happening
this time last week??
I'll probably be eating my words come Christmas, but it looks like this
has the potential of being a really interesting season. No team has really set
the table alight, and with the big 5 all having trouble to get into gear, it will
give the smaller clubs a glimmer of hope.
Here's hoping for a cracking season.
Al
|
13.285 | Results 22/23rd August | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Aug 24 1992 17:10 | 69 |
| Sat 22nd August
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Southampton
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 0 Man City
Man Utd. 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Middlesbrough 4 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Norwich City 1 - 1 Everton
Oldham Athletic 5 - 3 Nottingham For
QPR 3 - 2 Sheffield Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 3 Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur 2 - 2 Crystal Palace
Wimbledon 1 - 2 Coventry City
Sun 23rd August
Liverpool 0 - 2 Arsenal
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Coventry City 3 3 0 0 6 2 9 4
2 Norwich City 3 2 1 0 7 4 7 3
3 QPR 3 2 1 0 7 4 7 3
4 Blackburn Rovers 3 2 1 0 5 3 7 2
5 Middlesbrough 3 2 0 1 7 3 6 4
6 Everton 3 1 2 0 5 2 5 3
7 Oldham Athletic 3 1 2 0 7 5 5 2
8 Sheffield Wed. 3 1 2 0 6 4 5 2
9 Ipswich Town 3 1 2 0 3 2 5 1
10 Leeds Utd. 3 1 1 1 4 6 4 -2
11 Crystal Palace 3 0 3 0 6 6 3 0
12 Aston Villa 3 0 3 0 3 3 3 0
13 Sheffield Utd. 3 1 0 2 5 6 3 -1
14 Arsenal 3 1 0 2 4 5 3 -1
15 Liverpool 3 1 0 2 2 4 3 -2
16 Nottingham For 3 1 0 2 4 7 3 -3
17 Chelsea 3 0 2 1 5 6 2 -1
18 Southampton 3 0 2 1 2 4 2 -2
19 Tottenham Hotspur 3 0 2 1 2 4 2 -2
20 Man City 3 0 1 2 1 4 1 -3
21 Man Utd. 3 0 1 2 2 6 1 -4
22 Wimbledon 3 0 0 3 2 5 0 -3
Only 3 games gone and only Coventry have a 100% record. I can't see
that lasting too much longer. They have QPR on Wednesday. While at the other end
The Arse finally got out of reverse with what was an emphatic victory at
Anfield, with the scoreline kept respectable with a fine display by James. Man U
Could only manage to get into neutral, with a great strike by Irwin from the
edge of the box. And there were only 3500 at Selhurst Park to watch Wimbledon
lose again.
The biggest shock came at Middlesbrough. They saw off champions Leeds
4-1 with the game as good as over in the first 8 minutes when Borough went 2 up.
Lennie Lawrence said that they put on the best show of professional football by
any team he's been in charge of. (That's not too surprisng when you condsider
his previous teams :-) )
A great weekend for the front line with 40 goals being scored. All I can
say is I'm glad I'm not a defender this morning. Only Liverpool & Man City
failed to find the back of the net
The highlight for me was Graeme Stuart's solo goal at Hillsbrough. He
picked up the ball in his own half. And with the help of some good running by
the forwards, was given the chance to get into the area and slot the ball past
Woods. If he came from the F.A. School of excellence then there is some hope for
the English game yet. BTW was Jeremy Beadle in charge at Hillsbrough on
Saturday?? :-)
Al
|
13.286 | More results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Thu Aug 27 1992 14:42 | 68 |
| After this weeks round of matches, here is a list of the scores and the new
table
Al
Mon 24th
Southampton 0 - 1 Man Utd.
Tue 25th
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Everton 1 - 0 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 2 - 2 Liverpool
Leeds Utd. 5 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 2 Wimbledon
Wed 26th
Arsenal 2 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Chelsea 0 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Coventry City 0 - 1 QPR
Man City 3 - 1 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 QPR 4 3 1 0 8 4 10 4
2 Coventry City 4 3 0 1 6 3 9 3
3 Everton 4 2 2 0 6 2 8 4
4 Blackburn Rovers 4 2 2 0 5 3 8 2
5 Leeds Utd. 4 2 1 1 9 6 7 3
6 Norwich City 4 2 1 1 8 7 7 1
7 Middlesbrough 3 2 0 1 7 3 6 4
8 Sheffield Wed. 4 1 3 0 7 5 6 2
9 Arsenal 4 2 0 2 6 5 6 1
10 Ipswich Town 4 1 3 0 5 4 6 1
11 Oldham Athletic 4 1 2 1 7 7 5 0
12 Crystal Palace 4 0 4 0 7 7 4 0
13 Sheffield Utd. 4 1 1 2 7 8 4 -1
14 Man City 4 1 1 2 4 5 4 -1
15 Liverpool 4 1 1 2 4 6 4 -2
16 Man Utd. 4 1 1 2 3 6 4 -3
17 Chelsea 4 0 3 1 5 6 3 -1
18 Aston Villa 4 0 3 1 3 4 3 -1
19 Nottingham For 3 1 0 2 4 7 3 -3
20 Southampton 4 0 2 2 2 5 2 -3
21 Tottenham Hotspur 4 0 2 2 2 9 2 -7
22 Wimbledon 4 0 1 3 4 7 1 -3
Saturday's matches
Arsenal v Sheffield Wed.
Chelsea v QPR
Coventry City v Blackburn Rovers
Crystal Palace v Norwich City
Everton v Wimbledon
Leeds Utd v Liverpool
Man City v Oldham Athletic
Nottingham For v Man Utd.
Sheffield Utd v Aston Villa
Southampton v Middlesbrough
Sunday
Ipswich Town v Tottenham Hotspur
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13.287 | Back from me hols... | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Sep 07 1992 16:14 | 81 |
| Well 3 rounds of matches to enter since I was last here, and here they are:-
Sat 29th Aug
Arsenal 2 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Chelsea 1 - 0 QPR
Coventry City 0 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Norwich City
Everton 0 - 0 Wimbledon
Leeds Utd. 2 - 2 Liverpool
Man City 3 - 3 Oldham Athletic
Nottingham For 0 - 2 Man Utd.
Sheffield Utd. 0 - 2 Aston Villa
Southampton 2 - 1 Middlesbrough
Sun 30th Aug
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Mon 31st Aug
Norwich City 3 - 1 Nottingham For
Tue 1st Sept
Liverpool 1 - 1 Southampton
Middlesbrough 2 - 2 Ipswich Town
Oldham Athletic 2 - 2 Leeds Utd.
Wimbledon 0 - 1 Man City
Wed 2nd Sept
Aston Villa 1 - 3 Chelsea
Man Utd. 1 - 0 Crystal Palace
QPR 0 - 0 Arsenal
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 2 Coventry City
Tottenham Hotspur 2 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Sat 5th Sept
Aston Villa 3 - 0 Crystal Palace
Blackburn Rovers 4 - 1 Nottingham For
Liverpool 2 - 1 Chelsea
Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Norwich City 1 - 0 Southampton
Oldham Athletic 0 - 1 Coventry City
QPR 0 - 0 Ipswich Town
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 3 Man City
Tottenham Hotspur 2 - 1 Everton
Wimbledon 3 - 2 Arsenal
Sun 6th Sept
Man Utd. 2 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 7 5 1 1 14 9 16 5
2 Coventry City 7 5 0 2 9 6 15 3
3 Blackburn Rovers 6 4 2 0 11 4 14 7
4 Man Utd. 7 4 1 2 8 6 13 2
5 QPR 7 3 3 1 8 5 12 3
6 Man City 7 3 2 2 11 8 11 3
7 Middlesbrough 6 3 1 2 12 7 10 5
8 Arsenal 7 3 1 3 10 9 10 1
9 Everton 6 2 3 1 7 4 9 3
10 Aston Villa 7 2 3 2 9 7 9 2
11 Leeds Utd. 7 2 3 2 13 12 9 1
12 Chelsea 7 2 3 2 10 9 9 1
13 Ipswich Town 7 1 6 0 8 7 9 1
14 Liverpool 7 2 3 2 9 10 9 -1
15 Tottenham Hotspur 7 2 3 2 7 11 9 -4
16 Oldham Athletic 7 1 4 2 12 13 7 -1
17 Sheffield Wed. 7 1 3 3 9 12 6 -3
18 Southampton 7 1 3 3 5 8 6 -3
19 Wimbledon 7 1 2 4 7 10 5 -3
20 Crystal Palace 7 0 4 3 8 13 4 -5
21 Sheffield Utd. 7 1 1 5 7 14 4 -7
22 Nottingham For 6 1 0 5 6 16 3 -10
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13.288 | Results 12/13/14th Sep | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue Sep 15 1992 15:22 | 45 |
| Sat 12th Sep
Arsenal 0 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Chelsea 2 - 3 Norwich City
Crystal Palace 2 - 2 Oldham Athletic
Everton 0 - 2 Man Utd.
Ipswich Town 2 - 1 Wimbledon
Man City 0 - 1 Middlesbrough
Nottingham For 1 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 0 Liverpool
Southampton 1 - 2 QPR
Sun 13th
Leeds Utd. 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Mon 14th
Coventry City 1 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 8 6 1 1 17 11 19 6
2 Coventry City 8 6 0 2 10 6 18 4
3 Blackburn Rovers 7 5 2 0 12 4 17 8
4 Man Utd. 8 5 1 2 10 6 16 4
5 QPR 8 4 3 1 10 6 15 4
6 Middlesbrough 7 4 1 2 13 7 13 6
7 Ipswich Town 8 2 6 0 10 8 12 2
8 Man City 8 3 2 3 11 9 11 2
9 Aston Villa 8 2 4 2 10 8 10 2
10 Leeds Utd. 8 2 4 2 14 13 10 1
11 Arsenal 8 3 1 4 10 10 10 0
12 Everton 7 2 3 2 7 6 9 1
13 Chelsea 8 2 3 3 12 12 9 0
14 Sheffield Wed. 8 2 3 3 11 13 9 -2
15 Liverpool 8 2 3 3 9 11 9 -2
16 Tottenham Hotspur 8 2 3 3 7 12 9 -5
17 Oldham Athletic 8 1 5 2 14 15 8 -1
18 Sheffield Utd. 8 2 1 5 8 14 7 -6
19 Southampton 8 1 3 4 6 10 6 -4
20 Wimbledon 8 1 2 5 8 12 5 -4
21 Crystal Palace 8 0 5 3 10 15 5 -5
22 Nottingham For 7 1 0 6 7 18 3 -11
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13.289 | | SHAWB1::WATTY::WATTERSONP | There are NO fish under the ice | Sat Sep 19 1992 21:00 | 9 |
|
Some results....
Aston Villa 4-1 Liverpool
(Saunders 2)
Everton 0-2 Crystal Palace
|
13.290 | | SHAWB1::WATTY::WATTERSONP | There are NO fish under the ice | Sat Sep 19 1992 21:18 | 11 |
|
Wimbledon 1-1 Blackburn
Jones sent off Shearer
Tottenham 1-1 Man Utd
Durie Giggs
Oldham 4-2 Ipswich
|
13.291 | :-( | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | We fear change | Sun Sep 20 1992 21:18 | 7 |
| re .289
> Aston Villa 4-1 Liverpool
try 4-2. makes no difference though.
Ian.
|
13.292 | Full List & Table | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue Sep 22 1992 15:15 | 48 |
| Sat 19th Sep
Aston Villa 4 - 2 Liverpool
Everton 0 - 2 Crystal Palace
Norwich City 1 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Oldham Athletic 4 - 2 Ipswich Town
QPR 3 - 3 Middlesbrough
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 1 Arsenal
Southampton 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Man Utd.
Wimbledon 1 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Sun 20th
Man City 0 - 1 Chelsea
Mon 21st
Nottingham For 1 - 1 Coventry City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 9 7 1 1 18 11 22 7
2 Coventry City 9 6 1 2 11 7 19 4
3 Blackburn Rovers 9 5 3 1 15 8 18 7
4 Man Utd. 9 5 2 2 11 7 17 4
5 QPR 9 4 4 1 13 9 16 4
6 Middlesbrough 8 4 2 2 16 10 14 6
7 Aston Villa 9 3 4 2 14 10 13 4
8 Chelsea 9 3 3 3 13 12 12 1
9 Ipswich Town 9 2 6 1 12 12 12 0
10 Everton 9 3 3 3 10 10 12 0
11 Oldham Athletic 9 2 5 2 18 17 11 1
12 Leeds Utd. 9 2 5 2 15 14 11 1
13 Man City 9 3 2 4 11 10 11 1
14 Arsenal 9 3 2 4 11 11 11 0
15 Tottenham Hotspur 9 2 4 3 8 13 10 -5
16 Sheffield Wed. 9 2 3 4 11 14 9 -3
17 Liverpool 9 2 3 4 11 15 9 -4
18 Crystal Palace 9 1 5 3 12 15 8 -3
19 Sheffield Utd. 9 2 2 5 9 15 8 -6
20 Southampton 9 1 4 4 7 11 7 -4
21 Wimbledon 9 1 3 5 9 13 6 -4
22 Nottingham For 8 1 1 6 8 19 4 -11
Al
|
13.293 | Results For this w/e | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Sep 28 1992 14:56 | 42 |
| Sat 26th
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Chelsea 0 - 0 Nottingham For
Coventry City 1 - 1 Norwich City
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Southampton
Ipswich Town 0 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Leeds Utd. 2 - 0 Everton
Liverpool 2 - 3 Wimbledon
Man Utd. 0 - 0 QPR
Middlesbrough 2 - 3 Aston Villa
Sun 27th
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 10 7 2 1 19 12 23 7
2 Blackburn Rovers 10 6 3 1 17 8 21 9
3 Coventry City 10 6 2 2 12 8 20 4
4 Man Utd. 10 5 3 2 11 7 18 4
5 QPR 10 4 5 1 13 9 17 4
6 Aston Villa 10 4 4 2 17 12 16 5
7 Middlesbrough 9 4 2 3 18 13 14 5
8 Leeds Utd. 10 3 5 2 17 14 14 3
9 Chelsea 10 3 4 3 13 12 13 1
10 Ipswich Town 10 2 7 1 12 12 13 0
11 Sheffield Wed. 10 3 3 4 13 14 12 -1
12 Everton 10 3 3 4 10 12 12 -2
13 Man City 9 3 2 4 11 10 11 1
14 Arsenal 9 3 2 4 11 11 11 0
15 Oldham Athletic 10 2 5 3 18 19 11 -1
16 Southampton 10 2 4 4 9 12 10 -3
17 Tottenham Hotspur 10 2 4 4 8 15 10 -7
18 Wimbledon 10 2 3 5 12 15 9 -3
19 Liverpool 10 2 3 5 13 18 9 -5
20 Sheffield Utd. 10 2 3 5 9 15 9 -6
21 Crystal Palace 10 1 5 4 13 17 8 -4
22 Nottingham For 9 1 2 6 8 19 5 -11
|
13.294 | | SHAWB1::WATTY::WATTERSONP | yok | Sat Oct 03 1992 20:02 | 22 |
|
Results....
Blackburn 7-1 Norwich
Liverpool 1-0 Sheff Wed
QPR 4-1 Tottenham
Ipswich 4-2 Leeds
Sheff Utd 2-0 Southampton
Coventry 2-2 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 2-1 Chelsea
Man City 2-2 Nottm For.
Wimbledon 2-3 Aston Villa
M'boro 1-1 Man Utd
|
13.295 | Complete picture | BIBROK::ROBERTSON | Ain't it marvelous | Mon Oct 05 1992 15:24 | 29 |
| Yesterday's result
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Everton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 11 7 3 1 24 9 24 15
2 Norwich City 11 7 2 2 20 19 23 1
3 Coventry City 11 6 3 2 14 10 21 4
4 QPR 11 5 5 1 17 10 20 7
5 Aston Villa 11 5 4 2 20 14 19 6
6 Man Utd. 11 5 4 2 12 8 19 4
7 Arsenal 11 5 2 4 14 12 17 2
8 Ipswich Town 11 3 7 1 16 14 16 2
9 Middlesbrough 10 4 3 3 19 14 15 5
10 Leeds Utd. 11 3 5 3 19 18 14 1
11 Oldham Athletic 11 3 5 3 19 19 14 0
12 Chelsea 11 3 4 4 14 14 13 0
13 Man City 11 3 3 5 13 13 12 0
14 Sheffield Wed. 11 3 3 5 13 15 12 -2
15 Everton 11 3 3 5 10 13 12 -3
16 Liverpool 11 3 3 5 14 18 12 -4
17 Sheffield Utd. 11 3 3 5 11 15 12 -4
18 Southampton 11 2 4 5 9 14 10 -5
19 Tottenham Hotspur 11 2 4 5 9 19 10 -10
20 Crystal Palace 11 1 6 4 15 19 9 -4
21 Wimbledon 11 2 3 6 14 18 9 -4
22 Nottingham For 10 1 3 6 10 21 6 -11
|
13.296 | Normal Service resumed | BIBROK::ROBERTSON | Ain't it marvelous | Mon Oct 19 1992 14:51 | 47 |
| Sat 17th Oct
Chelsea 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Man City
Everton 1 - 1 Coventry City
Leeds Utd. 3 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Norwich City 2 - 1 QPR
Nottingham For 0 - 1 Arsenal
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Southampton 2 - 2 Wimbledon
Tottenham Hotspur 2 - 2 Middlesbrough
Sun 18th
Man Utd. 2 - 2 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 12 8 2 2 22 20 26 2
2 Blackburn Rovers 11 7 3 1 24 9 24 15
3 Coventry City 12 6 4 2 15 11 22 4
4 QPR 12 5 5 2 18 12 20 6
5 Man Utd. 12 5 5 2 14 10 20 4
6 Arsenal 12 6 2 4 15 12 20 3
7 Aston Villa 11 5 4 2 20 14 19 6
8 Leeds Utd. 12 4 5 3 22 19 17 3
9 Middlesbrough 11 4 4 3 21 16 16 5
10 Ipswich Town 12 3 7 2 17 16 16 1
11 Chelsea 12 4 4 4 16 15 16 1
12 Sheffield Wed. 12 4 3 5 15 16 15 -1
13 Oldham Athletic 12 3 5 4 20 21 14 -1
14 Man City 12 3 4 5 13 13 13 0
15 Everton 12 3 4 5 11 14 13 -3
16 Liverpool 12 3 4 5 16 20 13 -4
17 Sheffield Utd. 12 3 3 6 12 18 12 -6
18 Southampton 12 2 5 5 11 16 11 -5
19 Tottenham Hotspur 12 2 5 5 11 21 11 -10
20 Wimbledon 12 2 4 6 16 20 10 -4
21 Crystal Palace 12 1 7 4 15 19 10 -4
22 Nottingham For 11 1 3 7 10 22 6 -12
Tonight
Aston Villa v Blackburn Rovers
Al
|
13.297 | | BIBROK::ROBERTSON | Ain't it marvelous | Tue Oct 27 1992 16:14 | 42 |
| Sat 24th
Arsenal 2 - 0 Everton
Blackburn Rovers 0 - 0 Man Utd.
Coventry City 1 - 2 Chelsea
Ipswich Town 2 - 2 Crystal Palace
Man City 1 - 0 Southampton
Middlesbrough 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Oldham Athletic 1 - 1 Aston Villa
QPR 2 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Sheffield Utd. 0 - 0 Nottingham For
Sun 25th
Liverpool 4 - 1 Norwich City
Wimbledon 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 13 7 5 1 24 9 26 15
2 Norwich City 13 8 2 3 23 24 26 -1
3 QPR 13 6 5 2 20 13 23 7
4 Arsenal 13 7 2 4 17 12 23 5
5 Coventry City 13 6 4 3 16 13 22 3
6 Aston Villa 13 5 6 2 21 15 21 6
7 Man Utd. 13 5 6 2 14 10 21 4
8 Chelsea 13 5 4 4 18 16 19 2
9 Middlesbrough 13 4 5 4 22 18 17 4
10 Leeds Utd. 13 4 5 4 23 21 17 2
11 Ipswich Town 13 3 8 2 19 18 17 1
12 Man City 13 4 4 5 14 13 16 1
13 Liverpool 13 4 4 5 20 21 16 -1
14 Sheffield Wed. 13 4 4 5 16 17 16 -1
15 Oldham Athletic 13 3 6 4 21 22 15 -1
16 Everton 13 3 4 6 11 16 13 -5
17 Sheffield Utd. 13 3 4 6 12 18 13 -6
18 Tottenham Hotspur 13 2 6 5 12 22 12 -10
19 Crystal Palace 13 1 8 4 17 21 11 -4
20 Wimbledon 13 2 5 6 17 21 11 -4
21 Southampton 13 2 5 6 11 17 11 -6
22 Nottingham For 13 2 4 7 11 22 10 -11
|
13.298 | This weeks results & Table | BIBROK::ROBERTSON | Ain't it marvelous | Mon Nov 02 1992 15:33 | 42 |
| Sat 31st Oct
Chelsea 1 - 2 Sheffield Utd.
Everton 1 - 3 Man City
Leeds Utd. 2 - 2 Coventry City
Man Utd. 0 - 1 Wimbledon
Norwich City 1 - 1 Middlesbrough
Nottingham For 0 - 1 Ipswich Town
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Southampton 1 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Tottenham Hotspur 2 - 0 Liverpool
Sun 1st Nov
Aston Villa 2 - 0 QPR
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 14 7 6 1 24 9 27 15
2 Norwich City 14 8 3 3 24 25 27 -1
3 Aston Villa 14 6 6 2 23 15 24 8
4 QPR 14 6 5 3 20 15 23 5
5 Arsenal 13 7 2 4 17 12 23 5
6 Coventry City 14 6 5 3 18 15 23 3
7 Man Utd. 14 5 6 3 14 11 21 3
8 Ipswich Town 14 4 8 2 20 18 20 2
9 Man City 14 5 4 5 17 14 19 3
10 Chelsea 14 5 4 5 19 18 19 1
11 Middlesbrough 14 4 6 4 23 19 18 4
12 Leeds Utd. 14 4 6 4 25 23 18 2
13 Sheffield Wed. 14 4 5 5 16 17 17 -1
14 Oldham Athletic 14 3 7 4 22 23 16 -1
15 Liverpool 14 4 4 6 20 23 16 -3
16 Sheffield Utd. 14 4 4 6 14 19 16 -5
17 Tottenham Hotspur 14 3 6 5 14 22 15 -8
18 Wimbledon 14 3 5 6 18 21 14 -3
19 Everton 14 3 4 7 12 19 13 -7
20 Southampton 14 2 6 6 12 18 12 -6
21 Crystal Palace 13 1 8 4 17 21 11 -4
22 Nottingham For 14 2 4 8 11 23 10 -12
|
13.299 | | R2ME2::HINXMAN | I'll just sit here and rust | Sat Nov 07 1992 00:46 | 46 |
| .298 doesn't square with the version I received over the Internet.
Which is right?
Tony
FA Premier League 31 Oct 1992
Chelsea 1 Sheffield United 2 13763
Everton 1 Manchester City 3 20242
Leeds United 2 Coventry City 2 28018
Manchester United 0 Wimbledon 1 32622
Norwich City 1 Middlesbrough 1 14499
Nottingham Forest 0 Ipswich Town 1 21411
Sheffield Wednesday 0 Blackburn Rovers 0 31044
Southampton 1 Oldham Athletic 0 10827
Tottenham Hotspur 2 Liverpool 0 32917
FA Premier League 1 Nov 1992
Aston Villa 2 QPR 0 20140
FA Premier League at 1/11/1992
P W D L F A Pts
1. Blackburn Rovers 14 7 6 1 24 9 27
2. Norwich City 14 8 3 3 24 25 27
3. Aston Villa 14 6 6 2 23 15 24
4. Queen's Park Rangers 14 6 5 3 20 15 23
5. Arsenal 13 7 2 4 17 12 23
6. Coventry City 14 6 5 3 18 15 23
7. Manchester United 14 5 6 3 14 11 21
8. Ipswich Town 14 4 8 2 20 18 20
9. Manchester City 14 5 4 5 17 14 19
10. Chelsea 14 5 4 5 19 18 19
11. Middlesbrough 14 4 6 4 23 19 18
12. Leeds United 14 4 6 4 25 23 18
13. Sheffield Wednesday 14 4 5 5 16 17 17
14. Liverpool 14 4 4 6 20 23 16
15. Sheffield United 14 4 4 6 14 19 16
16. Oldham Athletic 14 3 6 5 21 23 15
17. Tottenham Hotspur 14 3 6 5 14 22 15
18. Wimbledon 14 3 5 6 18 21 14
19. Southampton 14 3 5 6 12 17 14
-------------------------------------------------
20. Everton 14 3 4 7 12 19 13
21. Crystal Palace 13 1 8 4 17 21 11
22. Nottingham Forest 14 2 4 8 11 23 10
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13.300 | The Arse at the top - Shurely shome mishtake | BIBROK::ROBERTSON | Ain't it marvelous | Mon Nov 09 1992 12:27 | 49 |
| -.1 is correct - I got the wrong score for the Southampton v Oldham
game wrong last week
Al
These are all correct (Unfortunately - look who's at the top :-)
Sat 7th
Arsenal 3 - 0 Coventry City
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Man Utd.
Blackburn Rovers 0 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 3 - 1 Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town 0 - 0 Southampton
Liverpool 4 - 1 Middlesbrough
Man City 4 - 0 Leeds Utd. :-(
Nottingham For 0 - 1 Everton
Wimbledon 0 - 2 QPR
Sun 8th
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Arsenal 15 9 2 4 22 13 29 9
2 Blackburn Rovers 15 7 6 2 24 11 27 13
3 Aston Villa 15 7 6 2 24 15 27 9
4 Norwich City 14 8 3 3 24 25 27 -1
5 QPR 15 7 5 3 22 15 26 7
6 Coventry City 15 6 5 4 18 18 23 0
7 Man City 15 6 4 5 21 14 22 7
8 Chelsea 15 6 4 5 22 19 22 3
9 Ipswich Town 15 4 9 2 20 18 21 2
10 Man Utd. 15 5 6 4 14 12 21 2
11 Liverpool 15 5 4 6 24 24 19 0
12 Middlesbrough 15 4 6 5 24 23 18 1
13 Sheffield Wed. 15 4 6 5 17 18 18 -1
14 Leeds Utd. 15 4 6 5 25 27 18 -2
15 Tottenham Hotspur 15 4 6 5 16 22 18 -6
16 Sheffield Utd. 15 4 5 6 15 20 17 -5
17 Everton 15 4 4 7 13 19 16 -6
18 Oldham Athletic 14 3 6 5 21 23 15 -2
19 Southampton 15 3 6 6 12 17 15 -5
20 Wimbledon 15 3 5 7 18 23 14 -5
21 Crystal Palace 15 1 8 6 19 26 11 -7
22 Nottingham For 15 2 4 9 11 24 10 -13
|
13.301 | I thought it was a mishtake :-) | BIBROK::ROBERTSON | Ain't it marvelous | Tue Nov 10 1992 14:38 | 15 |
| Result from last night
Oldham Athletic 2 - 3 Norwich City
The top now looks like this.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 15 9 3 3 27 27 30 0
2 Arsenal 15 9 2 4 22 13 29 9
3 Blackburn Rovers 15 7 6 2 24 11 27 13
4 Aston Villa 15 7 6 2 24 15 27 9
5 QPR 15 7 5 3 22 15 26 7
6 Coventry City 15 6 5 4 18 18 23 0
.
|
13.302 | 1st Div. League Table.. | VAXVLS::CCASEY | Liverpool now and forever.. | Thu Nov 12 1992 14:39 | 5 |
| Anyone got the Present 1st Division League Table or a pointer to a
recent one..
Colin..
^^^^^^^
|
13.303 | Results please | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Nov 23 1992 14:35 | 12 |
| Can someone give me the results of the following matches, as they're the
only ones I'm not sure about for this weekend.
I'll then post a complete list
Middlesborough v Wimbledon (3-0???)
Southampton v Blackburn
Cheers
Al
|
13.304 | | XSTACY::KMCGRATH | Long road, patient donkey | Mon Nov 23 1992 14:43 | 18 |
| >>Can someone give me the results of the following matches, as they're the
>>only ones I'm not sure about for this weekend.
>>
>>I'll then post a complete list
>>
>> Middlesborough v Wimbledon (3-0???)
>> Southampton v Blackburn
>>
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Al
Soton 1 Blackburn 1
not sure aboiut the first, but Middlesbrough definitely won
|
13.305 | | FUTURS::FLETCHER | | Mon Nov 23 1992 14:48 | 4 |
| Middlesborough v Wimbledon (2-0)
Nigel
|
13.306 | Full results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Nov 23 1992 16:04 | 45 |
| Thanks for the replies
Al
Sat 21st
Coventry City 2 - 3 Man City
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Nottingham For
Everton 0 - 1 Chelsea
Leeds Utd. 3 - 0 Arsenal
Man Utd. 3 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Wimbledon
Norwich City 2 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 0 Aston Villa
Sun 22nd
Southampton 1 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 16 10 3 3 29 28 33 1
2 Arsenal 16 9 2 5 22 16 29 6
3 Blackburn Rovers 16 7 7 2 25 12 28 13
4 Aston Villa 16 7 7 2 24 15 28 9
5 QPR 15 7 5 3 22 15 26 7
6 Man City 16 7 4 5 24 16 25 8
7 Chelsea 16 7 4 5 23 19 25 4
8 Man Utd. 16 6 6 4 17 12 24 5
9 Coventry City 16 6 5 5 20 21 23 -1
10 Ipswich Town 16 4 10 2 21 19 22 2
11 Middlesbrough 16 5 6 5 26 23 21 3
12 Leeds Utd. 16 5 6 5 28 27 21 1
13 Liverpool 15 5 4 6 24 24 19 0
14 Sheffield Wed. 16 4 7 5 18 19 19 -1
15 Tottenham Hotspur 16 4 7 5 16 22 19 -6
16 Sheffield Utd. 16 4 5 7 16 22 17 -6
17 Southampton 16 3 7 6 13 18 16 -5
18 Everton 16 4 4 8 13 20 16 -7
19 Oldham Athletic 16 3 6 7 23 29 15 -6
20 Wimbledon 16 3 5 8 18 25 14 -7
21 Crystal Palace 16 1 9 6 20 27 12 -7
22 Nottingham For 16 2 5 9 12 25 11 -13
|
13.307 | Just to be sure.. | VAXVLS::CCASEY | Liverpool now and forever.. | Tue Nov 24 1992 11:39 | 54 |
| <<< Note 13.306 by FORTY2::ROBERTSON "You don't wanna do it like that !!!!" >>>
-< Full results >-
Thanks for the replies
Al
Sat 21st
Coventry City 2 - 3 Man City
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Nottingham For
Everton 0 - 1 Chelsea
Leeds Utd. 3 - 0 Arsenal
Man Utd. 3 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Wimbledon
Norwich City 2 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 0 Aston Villa
Sun 22nd
Southampton 1 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Mon 23rd
Q.P.R. 0 - 1 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 16 10 3 3 29 28 33 1
2 Arsenal 16 9 2 5 22 16 29 6
3 Blackburn Rovers 16 7 7 2 25 12 28 13
4 Aston Villa 16 7 7 2 24 15 28 9
5 QPR 16 7 5 4 22 16 26 6
6 Man City 16 7 4 5 24 16 25 8
7 Chelsea 16 7 4 5 23 19 25 4
8 Man Utd. 16 6 6 4 17 12 24 5
9 Coventry City 16 6 5 5 20 21 23 -1
10 Ipswich Town 16 4 10 2 21 19 22 2
11 Liverpool 16 6 4 6 25 24 22 1
12 Middlesbrough 16 5 6 5 26 23 21 3
13 Leeds Utd. 16 5 6 5 28 27 21 1
14 Sheffield Wed. 16 4 7 5 18 19 19 -1
15 Tottenham Hotspur 16 4 7 5 16 22 19 -6
16 Sheffield Utd. 16 4 5 7 16 22 17 -6
17 Southampton 16 3 7 6 13 18 16 -5
18 Everton 16 4 4 8 13 20 16 -7
19 Oldham Athletic 16 3 6 7 23 29 15 -6
20 Wimbledon 16 3 5 8 18 25 14 -7
21 Crystal Palace 16 1 9 6 20 27 12 -7
22 Nottingham For 16 2 5 9 12 25 11 -13
|
13.308 | Plus one goal!!!! | KBOMFG::TANNER | We're one, but we're not the same | Tue Nov 24 1992 11:59 | 5 |
|
Its amazing to see Norwich 4 points clear of the Premier League with only
a plus one goal difference....
-dave-
|
13.309 | It's quite amazing | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue Nov 24 1992 12:11 | 8 |
| re -.1
I think that's mainly down to Blackburn in early October.
All but 2 of the games Norwich have won have been by the odd goal, and losing
7-1 & 4-1 to Blackburn & Liverpool respectfully has cancelled out those goals.
Al
|
13.310 | A Question for some Soccer Buff.. | VAXVLS::CCASEY | Liverpool now and forever.. | Tue Nov 24 1992 12:16 | 7 |
| A Good thoughtful question here can anyone say what was the highest
points total of a relagated side from the First/Premier division. I'd
be just curious to see is the standard of the League as a whole getting
better or worse..
Colin..
^^^^^^^
|
13.311 | Scores, Scorers & tables | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Nov 30 1992 13:40 | 65 |
| Sat 28th
Arsenal 0 - 1 Man Utd.
Hughes
Aston Villa 2 - 3 Norwich City
Houghton, Parker Phillips,Beckford,Sutch
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 0 QPR
Shearer
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Everton
johnson
Liverpool 5 - 0 Crystal Palace
McMannaman 2
Marsh, Rosenthal,
Hutchinosn
Oldham Athletic 4 - 1 Middlesbrough
Halle, Pointon Falconer
Sharpe, Adams
Man City 0 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Phelan o.g.
Wimbledon 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Jones (pen) Bart-Williams
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 1 Coventry City
Pearce o.g. Quinn
Nottingham For 1 - 2 Southampton
Clough Le Tissier, Adams
Sun 29th
Chelsea 1 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Townsend
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 17 11 3 3 32 30 36 2
2 Blackburn Rovers 17 8 7 2 26 12 31 14
3 Arsenal 17 9 2 6 22 17 29 5
4 Aston Villa 17 7 7 3 26 18 28 8
5 Chelsea 17 8 4 5 24 19 28 5
6 Man Utd. 17 7 6 4 18 12 27 6
7 QPR 17 7 5 5 22 17 26 5
8 Man City 17 7 4 6 24 17 25 7
9 Liverpool 17 7 4 6 30 24 25 6
10 Ipswich Town 17 5 10 2 22 19 25 3
11 Coventry City 17 6 6 5 21 22 24 -1
12 Tottenham Hotspur 17 5 7 5 17 22 22 -5
13 Leeds Utd. 17 5 6 6 28 28 21 0
14 Middlesbrough 17 5 6 6 27 27 21 0
15 Sheffield Wed. 17 4 8 5 19 20 20 -1
16 Southampton 17 4 7 6 15 19 19 -4
17 Oldham Athletic 17 4 6 7 27 30 18 -3
18 Sheffield Utd. 17 4 6 7 17 23 18 -6
19 Everton 17 4 4 9 13 21 16 -8
20 Wimbledon 17 3 6 8 19 26 15 -7
21 Crystal Palace 17 1 9 7 20 32 12 -12
22 Nottingham For 17 2 5 10 13 27 11 -14
|
13.312 | Better late than never!!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Thu Dec 10 1992 13:29 | 42 |
| Sat 5th
Coventry City 2 - 2 Ipswich Town
Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Leeds Utd. 1 - 4 Nottingham For
Middlesbrough 3 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Norwich City 2 - 1 Wimbledon
QPR 3 - 2 Oldham Athletic
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Southampton 2 - 0 Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 2 Chelsea
Sun 6th
Man Utd. 2 - 1 Man City
Mon 7th
Everton 2 - 1 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 18 12 3 3 34 31 39 3
2 Blackburn Rovers 18 8 7 3 28 15 31 13
3 Aston Villa 18 8 7 3 28 19 31 9
4 Chelsea 18 9 4 5 26 20 31 6
5 Man Utd. 18 8 6 4 20 13 30 7
6 QPR 18 8 5 5 25 19 29 6
7 Arsenal 18 9 2 7 22 19 29 3
8 Ipswich Town 18 5 11 2 24 21 26 3
9 Man City 18 7 4 7 25 19 25 6
10 Liverpool 18 7 4 7 31 26 25 5
11 Coventry City 18 6 7 5 23 24 25 -1
12 Middlesbrough 18 6 6 6 30 29 24 1
13 Southampton 18 5 7 6 17 19 22 -2
14 Tottenham Hotspur 18 5 7 6 18 24 22 -6
15 Leeds Utd. 18 5 6 7 29 32 21 -3
16 Sheffield Wed. 18 4 8 6 20 22 20 -2
17 Everton 18 5 4 9 15 22 19 -7
18 Oldham Athletic 18 4 6 8 29 33 18 -4
19 Sheffield Utd. 18 4 6 8 17 25 18 -8
20 Wimbledon 18 3 6 9 20 28 15 -8
21 Crystal Palace 18 2 9 7 22 32 15 -10
22 Nottingham For 18 3 5 10 17 28 14 -11
|
13.313 | This w/e results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Dec 14 1992 13:34 | 42 |
| Fri 11th
Middlesbrough 0 - 0 Chelsea
Sat 12th
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Nottingham For
Ipswich Town 3 - 1 Man City
Leeds Utd. 3 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Man Utd. 1 - 0 Norwich City
QPR 1 - 3 Crystal Palace
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 0 Everton
Southampton 2 - 2 Coventry City
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 0 Arsenal
Wimbledon 5 - 2 Oldham Athletic
Sun 13th
Liverpool 2 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 19 12 3 4 34 32 39 2
2 Aston Villa 19 9 7 3 30 20 34 10
3 Man Utd. 19 9 6 4 21 13 33 8
4 Chelsea 19 9 5 5 26 20 32 6
5 Blackburn Rovers 19 8 7 4 29 17 31 12
6 Ipswich Town 19 6 11 2 27 22 29 5
7 QPR 19 8 5 6 26 22 29 4
8 Arsenal 19 9 2 8 22 20 29 2
9 Liverpool 19 8 4 7 33 27 28 6
10 Coventry City 19 6 8 5 25 26 26 -1
11 Man City 19 7 4 8 26 22 25 4
12 Middlesbrough 19 6 7 6 30 29 25 1
13 Tottenham Hotspur 19 6 7 6 19 24 25 -5
14 Leeds Utd. 19 6 6 7 32 33 24 -1
15 Southampton 19 5 8 6 19 21 23 -2
16 Sheffield Utd. 19 5 6 8 18 25 21 -7
17 Sheffield Wed. 19 4 8 7 21 25 20 -4
18 Everton 19 5 4 10 15 23 19 -8
19 Wimbledon 19 4 6 9 25 30 18 -5
20 Oldham Athletic 19 4 6 9 31 38 18 -7
21 Crystal Palace 19 3 9 7 25 33 18 -8
22 Nottingham For 19 3 5 11 18 30 14 -12
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13.314 | Results Results Results!!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue Dec 22 1992 14:49 | 49 |
| Sat 19th
Arsenal 1 - 1 Middlesbrough
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Coventry City 5 - 1 Liverpool
Everton 2 - 1 Southampton
Man City 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Chelsea 1 - 1 Man Utd.
Oldham Athletic 2 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 0 QPR
Sun 20th
Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Nottingham For 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Mon 21st
Norwich City 0 - 2 Ipswich Town
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 20 12 3 5 34 34 39 0
2 Aston Villa 20 9 8 3 31 21 35 10
3 Blackburn Rovers 20 9 7 4 30 17 34 13
4 Man Utd. 20 9 7 4 22 14 34 8
5 Chelsea 20 9 6 5 27 21 33 6
6 Ipswich Town 20 7 11 2 29 22 32 7
7 Arsenal 20 9 3 8 23 21 30 2
8 Coventry City 20 7 8 5 30 27 29 3
9 QPR 20 8 5 7 26 23 29 3
10 Liverpool 20 8 4 8 34 32 28 2
11 Man City 20 7 5 8 27 23 26 4
12 Middlesbrough 20 6 8 6 31 30 26 1
13 Tottenham Hotspur 20 6 7 7 20 26 25 -6
14 Leeds Utd. 20 6 6 8 32 34 24 -2
15 Sheffield Wed. 20 5 8 7 22 25 23 -3
16 Southampton 20 5 8 7 20 23 23 -3
17 Everton 20 6 4 10 17 24 22 -7
18 Oldham Athletic 20 5 6 9 33 39 21 -6
19 Crystal Palace 20 4 9 7 26 33 21 -7
20 Sheffield Utd. 20 5 6 9 18 26 21 -8
21 Wimbledon 20 4 7 9 26 31 19 -5
22 Nottingham For 20 3 6 11 19 31 15 -12
Merry Xmas and happy new year to you all
Al
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13.315 | kickoff delayed to allow the home fans in :-) | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Mon Dec 28 1992 19:16 | 5 |
|
Anyone got any latest scores? Some of us have to work and don't have
access to a radio. In particular how are Chelsea doing at Wimbledon?
Gary.
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13.316 | draws draws draws | UTROP1::JANSEN | Reading Blondes have more fun | Tue Dec 29 1992 09:48 | 7 |
| rep -1
Gary,
another draw, this time goalless :-(
T_
|
13.317 | Boxing Day Results & Table | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Jan 04 1993 13:58 | 35 |
| Arsenal 0 - 0 Ipswich Town
Everton 2 - 2 Middlesbrough
Man City 2 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Blackburn Rovers 3 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Norwich City 0 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 3 Man Utd.
Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Wimbledon
Coventry City 3 - 0 Aston Villa
Chelsea 1 - 1 Southampton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 21 12 4 5 34 34 40 0
2 Blackburn Rovers 21 10 7 4 33 18 37 15
3 Man Utd. 21 9 8 4 25 17 35 8
4 Aston Villa 21 9 8 4 31 24 35 7
5 Chelsea 21 9 7 5 28 22 34 6
6 Ipswich Town 21 7 12 2 29 22 33 7
7 Coventry City 21 8 8 5 33 27 32 6
8 Arsenal 21 9 4 8 23 21 31 2
9 Man City 21 8 5 8 29 23 29 6
10 QPR 20 8 5 7 26 23 29 3
11 Liverpool 20 8 4 8 34 32 28 2
12 Middlesbrough 21 6 9 6 33 32 27 1
13 Tottenham Hotspur 21 6 8 7 20 26 26 -6
14 Sheffield Wed. 21 5 9 7 25 28 24 -3
15 Southampton 21 5 9 7 21 24 24 -3
16 Leeds Utd. 21 6 6 9 33 37 24 -4
17 Crystal Palace 21 5 9 7 28 33 24 -5
18 Everton 21 6 5 10 19 26 23 -7
19 Oldham Athletic 20 5 6 9 33 39 21 -6
20 Sheffield Utd. 21 5 6 10 18 28 21 -10
21 Wimbledon 21 4 7 10 26 33 19 -7
22 Nottingham For 20 3 6 11 19 31 15 -12
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13.318 | Monday 28th Results & Table | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Jan 04 1993 13:58 | 36 |
| Aston Villa 1 - 0 Arsenal
Ipswich Town 2 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Leeds Utd. 0 - 0 Norwich City
Liverpool 1 - 1 Man City
Man Utd. 5 - 0 Coventry City
Middlesbrough 0 - 1 Crystal Palace
QPR 4 - 2 Everton
Southampton 1 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Tottenham Hotspur 2 - 1 Nottingham For
Wimbledon 0 - 0 Chelsea
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 22 12 5 5 34 34 41 0
2 Man Utd. 22 10 8 4 30 17 38 13
3 Aston Villa 22 10 8 4 32 24 38 8
4 Blackburn Rovers 22 10 7 5 34 20 37 14
5 Ipswich Town 22 8 12 2 31 23 36 8
6 Chelsea 22 9 8 5 28 22 35 6
7 QPR 21 9 5 7 30 25 32 5
8 Coventry City 22 8 8 6 33 32 32 1
9 Arsenal 22 9 4 9 23 22 31 1
10 Man City 22 8 6 8 30 24 30 6
11 Liverpool 21 8 5 8 35 33 29 2
12 Tottenham Hotspur 22 7 8 7 22 27 29 -5
13 Middlesbrough 22 6 9 7 33 33 27 0
14 Sheffield Wed. 22 6 9 7 27 29 27 -2
15 Crystal Palace 22 6 9 7 29 33 27 -4
16 Leeds Utd. 22 6 7 9 33 37 25 -4
17 Southampton 22 5 9 8 22 26 24 -4
18 Everton 22 6 5 11 21 30 23 -9
19 Oldham Athletic 20 5 6 9 33 39 21 -6
20 Sheffield Utd. 21 5 6 10 18 28 21 -10
21 Wimbledon 22 4 8 10 26 33 20 -7
22 Nottingham For 21 3 6 12 20 33 15 -13
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13.319 | Results 9th/10th | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Jan 11 1993 13:41 | 42 |
| Sat 9th
Arsenal 1 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Blackburn Rovers 0 - 0 Wimbledon
Chelsea 2 - 4 Man City
Coventry City 0 - 1 Nottingham For
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Everton
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Oldham Athletic
Leeds Utd. 2 - 1 Southampton
Liverpool 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Man Utd. 4 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Middlesbrough 0 - 1 QPR
Sun 10th
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 0 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 23 11 8 4 34 18 41 16
2 Aston Villa 23 11 8 4 34 25 41 9
3 Norwich City 23 12 5 6 34 35 41 -1
4 Blackburn Rovers 23 10 8 5 34 20 38 14
5 Ipswich Town 23 8 12 3 32 25 36 7
6 QPR 22 10 5 7 31 25 35 6
7 Chelsea 23 9 8 6 30 26 35 4
8 Man City 23 9 6 8 34 26 33 8
9 Arsenal 23 9 5 9 24 23 32 1
10 Coventry City 23 8 8 7 33 33 32 0
11 Sheffield Wed. 23 7 9 7 28 29 30 -1
12 Liverpool 22 8 5 9 36 35 29 1
13 Tottenham Hotspur 23 7 8 8 23 31 29 -8
14 Leeds Utd. 23 7 7 9 35 38 28 -3
15 Middlesbrough 23 6 9 8 33 34 27 -1
16 Crystal Palace 23 6 9 8 29 35 27 -6
17 Everton 23 7 5 11 23 30 26 -7
18 Oldham Athletic 21 6 6 9 35 40 24 -5
19 Southampton 23 5 9 9 23 28 24 -5
20 Sheffield Utd. 22 5 7 10 19 29 22 -10
21 Wimbledon 23 4 9 10 26 33 21 -7
22 Nottingham For 22 4 6 12 21 33 18 -12
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13.320 | Results 16th/17th | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Jan 18 1993 12:58 | 46 |
| 16th
Everton 2 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Man City 0 - 1 Arsenal
Norwich City 1 - 1 Coventry City
Nottingham For 3 - 0 Chelsea
Oldham Athletic 0 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Sheffield Utd. 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Southampton 1 - 0 Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Wimbledon 2 - 0 Liverpool
17th
Aston Villa 5 - 1 Middlesbrough
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Aston Villa 24 12 8 4 39 26 44 13
2 Norwich City 24 12 6 6 35 36 42 -1
3 Man Utd. 23 11 8 4 34 18 41 16
4 Blackburn Rovers 24 11 8 5 35 20 41 15
5 Ipswich Town 24 8 12 4 32 28 36 4
6 QPR 22 10 5 7 31 25 35 6
7 Arsenal 24 10 5 9 25 23 35 2
8 Chelsea 24 9 8 7 30 29 35 1
9 Man City 24 9 6 9 34 27 33 7
10 Sheffield Wed. 24 8 9 7 30 29 33 1
11 Coventry City 24 8 9 7 34 34 33 0
12 Liverpool 23 8 5 10 36 37 29 -1
13 Everton 24 8 5 11 25 30 29 -5
14 Tottenham Hotspur 24 7 8 9 23 33 29 -10
15 Leeds Utd. 24 7 7 10 35 40 28 -5
16 Southampton 24 6 9 9 24 28 27 -4
17 Middlesbrough 24 6 9 9 34 39 27 -5
18 Crystal Palace 24 6 9 9 29 36 27 -7
19 Sheffield Utd. 23 6 7 10 22 29 25 -7
20 Wimbledon 24 5 9 10 28 33 24 -5
21 Oldham Athletic 22 6 6 10 35 41 24 -6
22 Nottingham For 23 5 6 12 24 33 21 -9
Playing tonight:
QPR v Man. Utd
|
13.321 | Last nights result | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue Jan 19 1993 15:14 | 13 |
| QPR 1 - 3 Man Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 24 12 8 4 37 19 44 18
2 Aston Villa 24 12 8 4 39 26 44 13
3 Norwich City 24 12 6 6 35 36 42 -1
4 Blackburn Rovers 24 11 8 5 35 20 41 15
5 Ipswich Town 24 8 12 4 32 28 36 4
6 QPR 23 10 5 8 32 28 35 4
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13.322 | Weekend result | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Jan 25 1993 18:57 | 14 |
| Coventry City 3 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 24 12 8 4 37 19 44 18
2 Aston Villa 24 12 8 4 39 26 44 13
3 Norwich City 24 12 6 6 35 36 42 -1
4 Blackburn Rovers 24 11 8 5 35 20 41 15
5 Ipswich Town 24 8 12 4 32 28 36 4
6 Coventry City 25 9 9 7 37 34 36 3
7 QPR 23 10 5 8 32 28 35 4
:
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13.323 | Tuesday's results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Wed Jan 27 1993 13:14 | 30 |
| Blackburn Rovers 2 - 5 Coventry City
Middlesbrough 2 - 1 Southampton
Oldham Athletic 0 - 1 Man City
Wimbledon 1 - 3 Everton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 24 12 8 4 37 19 44 18
2 Aston Villa 24 12 8 4 39 26 44 13
3 Norwich City 24 12 6 6 35 36 42 -1
4 Blackburn Rovers 25 11 8 6 37 25 41 12
5 Coventry City 26 10 9 7 42 36 39 6
6 Man City 25 10 6 9 35 27 36 8
7 Ipswich Town 24 8 12 4 32 28 36 4
8 QPR 23 10 5 8 32 28 35 4
9 Arsenal 24 10 5 9 25 23 35 2
10 Chelsea 24 9 8 7 30 29 35 1
11 Sheffield Wed. 24 8 9 7 30 29 33 1
12 Everton 25 9 5 11 28 31 32 -3
13 Middlesbrough 25 7 9 9 36 40 30 -4
14 Liverpool 23 8 5 10 36 37 29 -1
15 Tottenham Hotspur 24 7 8 9 23 33 29 -10
16 Leeds Utd. 24 7 7 10 35 40 28 -5
17 Southampton 25 6 9 10 25 30 27 -5
18 Crystal Palace 24 6 9 9 29 36 27 -7
19 Sheffield Utd. 23 6 7 10 22 29 25 -7
20 Wimbledon 25 5 9 11 29 36 24 -7
21 Oldham Athletic 24 6 6 12 35 45 24 -10
22 Nottingham For 23 5 6 12 24 33 21 -9
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13.324 | Last night's games | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Thu Jan 28 1993 20:55 | 31 |
| Aston Villa 3 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Man Utd. 2 - 0 Nottingham For
Norwich City 4 - 2 Crystal Palace
QPR 1 - 1 Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 2 Ipswich Town
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 25 13 8 4 39 19 47 20
2 Aston Villa 25 13 8 4 42 27 47 15
3 Norwich City 25 13 6 6 39 38 45 1
4 Blackburn Rovers 25 11 8 6 37 25 41 12
5 Coventry City 26 10 9 7 42 36 39 6
6 Ipswich Town 25 9 12 4 34 28 39 6
7 Man City 25 10 6 9 35 27 36 8
8 QPR 24 10 6 8 33 29 36 4
9 Chelsea 25 9 9 7 31 30 36 1
10 Arsenal 24 10 5 9 25 23 35 2
11 Sheffield Wed. 24 8 9 7 30 29 33 1
12 Everton 25 9 5 11 28 31 32 -3
13 Middlesbrough 25 7 9 9 36 40 30 -4
14 Liverpool 23 8 5 10 36 37 29 -1
15 Tottenham Hotspur 25 7 8 10 23 35 29 -12
16 Leeds Utd. 24 7 7 10 35 40 28 -5
17 Southampton 25 6 9 10 25 30 27 -5
18 Crystal Palace 25 6 9 10 31 40 27 -9
19 Sheffield Utd. 24 6 7 11 23 32 25 -9
20 Wimbledon 25 5 9 11 29 36 24 -7
21 Oldham Athletic 24 6 6 12 35 45 24 -10
22 Nottingham For 24 5 6 13 24 35 21 -11
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13.325 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | Tax passive smokers | Sat Jan 30 1993 19:59 | 14 |
|
Saturday scores
Chelsea 0-2 Sheff Wed
Coventry 0-2 Wimbledon
Crystal Pal 1-3 Tottenham
Everton 0-1 Norwich
Ipswich 2-1 Man Utd
Leeds 3-0 M'boro
Man City 3-2 Blackburn
Nottm For 2-0 Oldham
Sheff Utd 1-2 QPR
Southampton 2-0 Aston Villa
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13.326 | Sunday Score Plus table | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Feb 01 1993 16:35 | 27 |
| Arsenal 0 - 1 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 26 14 6 6 40 38 48 2
2 Man Utd. 26 13 8 5 40 21 47 19
3 Aston Villa 26 13 8 5 42 29 47 13
4 Ipswich Town 26 10 12 4 36 29 42 7
5 Blackburn Rovers 26 11 8 7 39 28 41 11
6 Man City 26 11 6 9 38 29 39 9
7 QPR 25 11 6 8 35 30 39 5
8 Coventry City 27 10 9 8 42 38 39 4
9 Sheffield Wed. 25 9 9 7 32 29 36 3
10 Chelsea 26 9 9 8 31 32 36 -1
11 Arsenal 25 10 5 10 25 24 35 1
12 Liverpool 24 9 5 10 37 37 32 0
13 Everton 26 9 5 12 28 32 32 -4
14 Tottenham Hotspur 26 8 8 10 26 36 32 -10
15 Leeds Utd. 25 8 7 10 38 40 31 -2
16 Southampton 26 7 9 10 27 30 30 -3
17 Middlesbrough 26 7 9 10 36 43 30 -7
18 Wimbledon 26 6 9 11 31 36 27 -5
19 Crystal Palace 26 6 9 11 32 43 27 -11
20 Sheffield Utd. 25 6 7 12 24 34 25 -10
21 Nottingham For 25 6 6 13 26 35 24 -9
22 Oldham Athletic 25 6 6 13 35 47 24 -12
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13.327 | This week's | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Feb 08 1993 14:38 | 39 |
|
Sat 6th
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 0 - 0 Nottingham For
Man Utd. 2 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Middlesbrough 0 - 2 Coventry City
Oldham Athletic 3 - 0 Chelsea
QPR 1 - 1 Man City
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 1 Everton
Wimbledon 1 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Sun 7th
Tottenham Hotspur 4 - 2 Southampton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 27 14 8 5 42 22 50 20
2 Aston Villa 27 14 8 5 44 29 50 15
3 Norwich City 26 14 6 6 40 38 48 2
4 Coventry City 28 11 9 8 44 38 42 6
5 Ipswich Town 27 10 12 5 36 31 42 5
6 Blackburn Rovers 27 11 8 8 40 30 41 10
7 Man City 27 11 7 9 39 30 40 9
8 QPR 26 11 7 8 36 31 40 5
9 Sheffield Wed. 26 10 9 7 35 30 39 5
10 Chelsea 27 9 9 9 31 35 36 -4
11 Arsenal 25 10 5 10 25 24 35 1
12 Tottenham Hotspur 27 9 8 10 30 38 35 -8
13 Liverpool 25 9 6 10 37 37 33 0
14 Everton 27 9 5 13 29 35 32 -6
15 Leeds Utd. 26 8 7 11 38 41 31 -3
16 Wimbledon 27 7 9 11 32 36 30 -4
17 Southampton 27 7 9 11 29 34 30 -5
18 Middlesbrough 27 7 9 11 36 45 30 -9
19 Crystal Palace 27 7 9 11 34 44 30 -10
20 Oldham Athletic 26 7 6 13 38 47 27 -9
21 Nottingham For 26 6 7 13 26 35 25 -9
22 Sheffield Utd. 26 6 7 13 25 36 25 -11
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13.328 | Midweek results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Fri Feb 12 1993 17:30 | 39 |
| Mon 8th
Leeds Utd. 0 - 0 Man Utd.
Tue 9th
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 QPR
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 0 Middlesbrough
Wed 10th
Arsenal 0 - 1 Wimbledon
Chelsea 0 - 0 Liverpool
Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Aston Villa
Everton 1 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton 3 - 0 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 28 14 9 5 42 22 51 20
2 Aston Villa 28 14 8 6 44 30 50 14
3 Norwich City 27 14 6 7 40 41 48 -1
4 Ipswich Town 28 10 13 5 37 32 43 5
5 Coventry City 28 11 9 8 44 38 42 6
6 Blackburn Rovers 27 11 8 8 40 30 41 10
7 QPR 27 11 8 8 37 32 41 5
8 Man City 27 11 7 9 39 30 40 9
9 Sheffield Wed. 26 10 9 7 35 30 39 5
10 Tottenham Hotspur 28 10 8 10 32 39 38 -7
11 Chelsea 28 9 10 9 31 35 37 -4
12 Arsenal 26 10 5 11 25 25 35 0
13 Liverpool 26 9 7 10 37 37 34 0
14 Southampton 28 8 9 11 32 34 33 -2
15 Wimbledon 28 8 9 11 33 36 33 -3
16 Crystal Palace 28 8 9 11 35 44 33 -9
17 Leeds Utd. 27 8 8 11 38 41 32 -3
18 Everton 28 9 5 14 30 37 32 -7
19 Middlesbrough 28 7 9 12 36 47 30 -11
20 Sheffield Utd. 27 7 7 13 27 36 28 -9
21 Oldham Athletic 26 7 6 13 38 47 27 -9
22 Nottingham For 26 6 7 13 26 35 25 -9
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13.329 | Keep an eye on Wednesday | ESSB::BLONG | Europe is Scouse Free | Fri Feb 12 1993 20:15 | 0 |
13.330 | You mean the 17th? (:==:) | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | WALES 10 England 9 | Fri Feb 12 1993 20:19 | 1 |
| What's happening next Wednesday?
|
13.331 | Sat 13th | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Feb 15 1993 13:56 | 29 |
| Chelsea 0 - 1 Aston Villa
Leeds Utd. 2 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Southampton 2 - 1 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Aston Villa 29 15 8 6 45 30 53 15
2 Man Utd. 28 14 9 5 42 22 51 20
3 Norwich City 27 14 6 7 40 41 48 -1
4 Ipswich Town 28 10 13 5 37 32 43 5
5 Coventry City 28 11 9 8 44 38 42 6
6 Blackburn Rovers 27 11 8 8 40 30 41 10
7 QPR 27 11 8 8 37 32 41 5
8 Man City 27 11 7 9 39 30 40 9
9 Sheffield Wed. 26 10 9 7 35 30 39 5
10 Tottenham Hotspur 28 10 8 10 32 39 38 -7
11 Chelsea 29 9 10 10 31 36 37 -5
12 Southampton 29 9 9 11 34 35 36 -1
13 Arsenal 26 10 5 11 25 25 35 0
14 Leeds Utd. 28 9 8 11 40 41 35 -1
15 Liverpool 27 9 7 11 38 39 34 -1
16 Wimbledon 28 8 9 11 33 36 33 -3
17 Crystal Palace 28 8 9 11 35 44 33 -9
18 Everton 28 9 5 14 30 37 32 -7
19 Middlesbrough 28 7 9 12 36 47 30 -11
20 Sheffield Utd. 27 7 7 13 27 36 28 -9
21 Oldham Athletic 27 7 6 14 38 49 27 -11
22 Nottingham For 26 6 7 13 26 35 25 -9
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13.332 | Weekend results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Feb 22 1993 14:08 | 42 |
| Sat 20th
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Everton
Liverpool 0 - 0 Ipswich Town
Man Utd. 2 - 1 Southampton
Middlesbrough 1 - 2 Nottingham For
Norwich City 2 - 1 Man City
Oldham Athletic 0 - 1 Arsenal
QPR 2 - 0 Coventry City
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur 4 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Wimbledon 2 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Sun 21st
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 0 Chelsea
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Aston Villa 30 16 8 6 47 31 56 16
2 Man Utd. 29 15 9 5 44 23 54 21
3 Norwich City 28 15 6 7 42 42 51 0
4 Blackburn Rovers 28 12 8 8 42 30 44 12
5 QPR 28 12 8 8 39 32 44 7
6 Ipswich Town 29 10 14 5 37 32 44 5
7 Sheffield Wed. 27 11 9 7 37 31 42 6
8 Coventry City 29 11 9 9 44 40 42 4
9 Tottenham Hotspur 29 11 8 10 36 39 41 -3
10 Man City 28 11 7 10 40 32 40 8
11 Arsenal 27 11 5 11 26 25 38 1
12 Chelsea 30 9 10 11 31 38 37 -7
13 Wimbledon 29 9 9 11 35 36 36 -1
14 Southampton 30 9 9 12 35 37 36 -2
15 Liverpool 28 9 8 11 38 39 35 -1
16 Leeds Utd. 29 9 8 12 40 45 35 -5
17 Crystal Palace 29 8 9 12 36 46 33 -10
18 Everton 29 9 5 15 31 39 32 -8
19 Middlesbrough 29 7 9 13 37 49 30 -12
20 Nottingham For 27 7 7 13 28 36 28 -8
21 Sheffield Utd. 28 7 7 14 27 38 28 -11
22 Oldham Athletic 28 7 6 15 38 50 27 -12
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13.333 | Relegation battle last night | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue Feb 23 1993 12:37 | 11 |
| Sheffield Utd. 2 - 0 Oldham Athletic
17 Crystal Palace 29 8 9 12 36 46 33 -10
18 Everton 29 9 5 15 31 39 32 -8
19 Sheffield Utd. 29 8 7 14 29 38 31 -9
20 Middlesbrough 29 7 9 13 37 49 30 -12
21 Nottingham For 27 7 7 13 28 36 28 -8
22 Oldham Athletic 29 7 6 16 38 52 27 -14
Al
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13.334 | Few more results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Thu Feb 25 1993 13:43 | 36 |
| Tues 23rd
Man City 1 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Wed 24th
Arsenal 0 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Nottingham For 1 - 0 QPR
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Aston Villa 30 16 8 6 47 31 56 16
2 Man Utd. 29 15 9 5 44 23 54 21
3 Norwich City 28 15 6 7 42 42 51 0
4 Sheffield Wed. 28 12 9 7 39 32 45 7
5 Blackburn Rovers 28 12 8 8 42 30 44 12
6 QPR 29 12 8 9 39 33 44 6
7 Ipswich Town 29 10 14 5 37 32 44 5
8 Coventry City 29 11 9 9 44 40 42 4
9 Tottenham Hotspur 29 11 8 10 36 39 41 -3
10 Man City 29 11 7 11 41 34 40 7
11 Arsenal 28 11 6 11 26 25 39 1
12 Chelsea 30 9 10 11 31 38 37 -7
13 Wimbledon 29 9 9 11 35 36 36 -1
14 Southampton 30 9 9 12 35 37 36 -2
15 Leeds Utd. 30 9 9 12 40 45 36 -5
16 Liverpool 28 9 8 11 38 39 35 -1
17 Crystal Palace 29 8 9 12 36 46 33 -10
18 Everton 29 9 5 15 31 39 32 -8
19 Nottingham For 28 8 7 13 29 36 31 -7
20 Sheffield Utd. 29 8 7 14 29 38 31 -9
21 Middlesbrough 29 7 9 13 37 49 30 -12
22 Oldham Athletic 29 7 6 16 38 52 27 -14
Arsenal haven't won a home league game since November!!
Leeds first clean sheet away from Elland Road since April
Notts Forest out of bottom 3 for the first time since Sept.
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13.335 | Last weekend's results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Tue Mar 02 1993 14:00 | 45 |
| Sat
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Wimbledon
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Coventry City
Everton 2 - 2 Oldham Athletic
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 Ipswich Town
Man Utd. 3 - 0 Middlesbrough
Nottingham For 0 - 2 Man City
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Liverpool
Southampton 3 - 2 Sheffield Utd.
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 2 QPR
Sun
Norwich City 0 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Mon
Chelsea 1 - 0 Arsenal
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Aston Villa 31 17 8 6 48 31 59 17
2 Man Utd. 30 16 9 5 47 23 57 24
3 Norwich City 29 15 7 7 42 42 52 0
4 Sheffield Wed. 29 12 10 7 40 33 46 7
5 Blackburn Rovers 29 12 9 8 42 30 45 12
6 QPR 30 12 8 10 41 36 44 5
7 Ipswich Town 30 10 14 6 37 33 44 4
8 Tottenham Hotspur 30 12 8 10 39 41 44 -2
9 Man City 30 12 7 11 43 34 43 9
10 Coventry City 30 11 10 9 44 40 43 4
11 Chelsea 31 10 10 11 32 38 40 -6
12 Arsenal 29 11 6 12 26 26 39 0
13 Southampton 31 10 9 12 38 39 39 -1
14 Leeds Utd. 31 10 9 12 41 45 39 -4
15 Liverpool 29 9 9 11 39 40 36 -1
16 Wimbledon 30 9 9 12 35 37 36 -2
17 Crystal Palace 30 8 10 12 36 46 34 -10
18 Everton 30 9 6 15 33 41 33 -8
19 Nottingham For 29 8 7 14 29 38 31 -9
20 Sheffield Utd. 30 8 7 15 31 41 31 -10
21 Middlesbrough 30 7 9 14 37 52 30 -15
22 Oldham Athletic 30 7 7 16 40 54 28 -14
Al
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13.336 | | EBYGUM::WATTERSONP | another day another bill | Sat Mar 06 1993 19:56 | 8 |
|
Saturday results...
Liverpool 1-2 Man Utd
QPR 3-1 Norwich
Wimbledon 1-2 Southampton
Paul
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13.337 | Sunday's result | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Mon Mar 08 1993 13:17 | 27 |
| Coventry City 0 - 1 Everton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 31 17 9 5 49 24 60 25
2 Aston Villa 31 17 8 6 48 31 59 17
3 Norwich City 31 15 8 8 44 46 53 -2
4 QPR 31 13 8 10 44 37 47 7
5 Sheffield Wed. 30 12 10 8 40 34 46 6
6 Coventry City 32 12 10 10 45 41 46 4
7 Blackburn Rovers 30 12 9 9 43 32 45 11
8 Ipswich Town 31 10 14 7 37 34 44 3
9 Tottenham Hotspur 31 12 8 11 39 47 44 -8
10 Man City 30 12 7 11 43 34 43 9
11 Southampton 32 11 9 12 40 40 42 0
12 Arsenal 30 11 7 12 27 27 40 0
13 Chelsea 31 10 10 11 32 38 40 -6
14 Leeds Utd. 31 10 9 12 41 45 39 -4
15 Everton 32 11 6 15 36 42 39 -6
16 Liverpool 30 9 9 12 40 42 36 -2
17 Wimbledon 31 9 9 13 36 39 36 -3
18 Crystal Palace 31 8 11 12 37 47 35 -10
19 Sheffield Utd. 31 9 7 15 37 41 34 -4
20 Middlesbrough 31 8 9 14 38 52 33 -14
21 Nottingham For 30 8 8 14 30 39 32 -9
22 Oldham Athletic 30 7 7 16 40 54 28 -14
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13.338 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Nostalgia *is* what it used to be... | Thu Mar 11 1993 13:31 | 14 |
|
Results this week (from memory - prone to error!):
Oldham 1 - 0 Man Utd I know this one's right 8-(
Aston Villa 0 - 0 Spurs
Liverpool 1 - 0 QPR
Man City 1 - 0 Coventry
Sheff Utd 0 - 1 Norwich
Chelsea 2 - 1 Everton
Wimbledon 2 - 0 Middlesboro
Ipswich 0 - 1 Sheff Wed
Blackburn 0 - 0 Southampton
Andy.
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13.339 | Results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | You don't wanna do it like that !!!! | Thu Mar 11 1993 13:37 | 38 |
| Tues
Blackburn Rovers 0 - 0 Southampton
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Man Utd.
Wimbledon 2 - 0 Middlesbrough
Wed
Aston Villa 0 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 2 - 1 Everton
Ipswich Town 0 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Liverpool 1 - 0 QPR
Man City 1 - 0 Coventry City
Sheffield Utd. 0 - 1 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 32 17 9 6 49 25 60 24
2 Aston Villa 32 17 9 6 48 31 60 17
3 Norwich City 32 16 8 8 45 46 56 -1
4 Sheffield Wed. 31 13 10 8 41 34 49 7
5 QPR 32 13 8 11 44 38 47 6
6 Blackburn Rovers 31 12 10 9 43 32 46 11
7 Man City 31 13 7 11 44 34 46 10
8 Coventry City 33 12 10 11 45 42 46 3
9 Tottenham Hotspur 32 12 9 11 39 47 45 -8
10 Ipswich Town 32 10 14 8 37 35 44 2
11 Southampton 33 11 10 12 40 40 43 0
12 Chelsea 32 11 10 11 34 39 43 -5
13 Arsenal 30 11 7 12 27 27 40 0
14 Liverpool 31 10 9 12 41 42 39 -1
15 Wimbledon 32 10 9 13 38 39 39 -1
16 Leeds Utd. 31 10 9 12 41 45 39 -4
17 Everton 33 11 6 16 37 44 39 -7
18 Crystal Palace 31 8 11 12 37 47 35 -10
19 Sheffield Utd. 32 9 7 16 37 42 34 -5
20 Middlesbrough 32 8 9 15 38 54 33 -16
21 Nottingham For 30 8 8 14 30 39 32 -9
22 Oldham Athletic 31 8 7 16 41 54 31 -13
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13.340 | Results/Table | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Blah! Blah! Yackety Schmackety | Mon Mar 15 1993 15:25 | 36 |
| Coventry City 0 - 2 Arsenal
Everton 3 - 0 Nottingham For
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 Man City
Middlesbrough 1 - 2 Liverpool
Norwich City 1 - 0 Oldham Athletic
QPR 1 - 2 Wimbledon
Southampton 4 - 3 Ipswich Town
Sun
Man Utd. 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 33 17 10 6 50 26 61 24
2 Aston Villa 33 17 10 6 49 32 61 17
3 Norwich City 33 17 8 8 46 46 59 0
4 Sheffield Wed. 31 13 10 8 41 34 49 7
5 QPR 33 13 8 12 45 40 47 5
6 Blackburn Rovers 31 12 10 9 43 32 46 11
7 Man City 32 13 7 12 44 35 46 9
8 Coventry City 34 12 10 12 45 44 46 1
9 Southampton 34 12 10 12 44 43 46 1
10 Tottenham Hotspur 32 12 9 11 39 47 45 -8
11 Ipswich Town 33 10 14 9 40 39 44 1
12 Arsenal 31 12 7 12 29 27 43 2
13 Chelsea 32 11 10 11 35 39 43 -4
14 Liverpool 32 11 9 12 43 43 42 0
15 Wimbledon 33 11 9 13 40 40 42 0
16 Leeds Utd. 32 11 9 12 42 45 42 -3
17 Everton 34 12 6 16 40 44 42 -4
18 Crystal Palace 31 8 11 12 37 47 35 -10
19 Sheffield Utd. 32 9 7 16 37 42 34 -5
20 Middlesbrough 33 8 9 16 39 56 33 -17
21 Nottingham For 31 8 8 15 30 42 32 -12
22 Oldham Athletic 32 8 7 17 41 56 31 -15
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13.341 | For Mssrs Button & Co. | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Blah! Blah! Yackety Schmackety | Thu Mar 18 1993 12:25 | 42 |
| Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Chelsea
Nottingham For 0 - 3 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 34 18 8 8 49 46 62 3
2 Man Utd. 33 17 10 6 50 26 61 24
3 Aston Villa 33 17 10 6 49 32 61 17
4 Sheffield Wed. 31 13 10 8 41 34 49 7
5 QPR 33 13 8 12 45 40 47 5
6 Blackburn Rovers 31 12 10 9 43 32 46 11
7 Man City 32 13 7 12 44 35 46 9
8 Coventry City 34 12 10 12 45 44 46 1
9 Southampton 34 12 10 12 44 43 46 1
10 Tottenham Hotspur 32 12 9 11 39 47 45 -8
11 Ipswich Town 33 10 14 9 40 39 44 1
12 Chelsea 33 11 11 11 36 40 44 -4
13 Arsenal 31 12 7 12 29 27 43 2
14 Liverpool 32 11 9 12 43 43 42 0
15 Wimbledon 33 11 9 13 40 40 42 0
16 Leeds Utd. 32 11 9 12 42 45 42 -3
17 Everton 34 12 6 16 40 44 42 -4
18 Crystal Palace 32 8 12 12 38 48 36 -10
19 Sheffield Utd. 32 9 7 16 37 42 34 -5
20 Middlesbrough 33 8 9 16 39 56 33 -17
21 Nottingham For 32 8 8 16 30 45 32 -15
22 Oldham Athletic 32 8 7 17 41 56 31 -15
Who said it's a two horse race.
Norwich looked well out of it 10 days ago, but have shown championship form to
get right back into the race. I know they've played 3 of the 4 bottom teams in
the last 3 games, but they're the games you need to win if your're going to get
anywhere. Just ask any Man Utd fan about WHU last year and Oldham last week.
The visit of Villa & Man Utd in the next 3 weeks will be crucial.
I'm looking forward to an exciting last 2 months
Al
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13.342 | Results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Blah! Blah! Yackety Schmackety | Mon Mar 22 1993 18:00 | 42 |
| From Memory
Arsenal 4 - 3 Southampton
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 1 Middlesbrough
Chelsea 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Ipswich Town 0 - 0 Coventry City
Liverpool 1 - 0 Everton
Man City 1 - 1 Man Utd.
Oldham Athletic 2 - 2 QPR
Sheffield Utd. 0 - 1 Crystal Palace
Wimbledon 3 - 0 Norwich City
Sun
Nottingham For 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Aston Villa 34 18 10 6 51 32 64 19
2 Man Utd. 34 17 11 6 51 27 62 24
3 Norwich City 35 18 8 9 49 49 62 0
4 Sheffield Wed. 32 13 10 9 41 36 49 5
5 QPR 34 13 9 12 47 42 48 5
6 Blackburn Rovers 32 12 11 9 44 33 47 11
7 Man City 33 13 8 12 45 36 47 9
8 Coventry City 35 12 11 12 45 44 47 1
9 Arsenal 32 13 7 12 33 30 46 3
10 Southampton 35 12 10 13 47 47 46 0
11 Tottenham Hotspur 33 12 10 11 40 48 46 -8
12 Wimbledon 34 12 9 13 43 40 45 3
13 Liverpool 33 12 9 12 44 43 45 1
14 Ipswich Town 34 10 15 9 40 39 45 1
15 Chelsea 34 11 12 11 37 41 45 -4
16 Leeds Utd. 33 11 10 12 43 46 43 -3
17 Everton 35 12 6 17 40 45 42 -5
18 Crystal Palace 33 9 12 12 39 48 39 -9
19 Sheffield Utd. 33 9 7 17 37 43 34 -6
20 Middlesbrough 34 8 10 16 40 57 34 -17
21 Nottingham For 33 8 9 16 31 46 33 -15
22 Oldham Athletic 33 8 8 17 43 58 32 -15
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13.343 | | ECCGY4::HAIGH | A1v30CM wubble wubble! | Thu Mar 25 1993 11:33 | 5 |
|
Could someone put ALL the results in from last night?
I already know that Forest beat Soton 2-1 and Everton beat Ipswich
3-0.....
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13.344 | | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Just another Day!! | Thu Mar 25 1993 12:01 | 10 |
| Man Utd 0 Arsenal 0
Leeds 1 Chelsea 1
QPR 0 Blackburn 3
Coventry 1 sheffield Utd 3
Sheffield Wed 1 Wimbledon 1
Norwich 1 Aston Villa 0
Spurs 3 Man City 1
Palace 1 Liverpool 1
Everton 3 Ipswich 0
Southampton 1 Forest 2
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13.345 | That's my job ;-) | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Blah! Blah! Yackety Schmackety | Thu Mar 25 1993 12:49 | 32 |
| Mon
Middlesbrough 2 - 3 Oldham Athletic
Tues
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Norwich City 36 19 8 9 50 49 65 1
2 Aston Villa 35 18 10 7 51 33 64 18
3 Man Utd. 35 17 12 6 51 27 63 24
4 Blackburn Rovers 33 13 11 9 47 33 50 14
5 Sheffield Wed. 33 13 11 9 42 37 50 5
6 Tottenham Hotspur 34 13 10 11 43 49 49 -6
7 QPR 35 13 9 13 47 45 48 2
8 Man City 34 13 8 13 46 39 47 7
9 Arsenal 33 13 8 12 33 30 47 3
10 Coventry City 36 12 11 13 46 47 47 -1
11 Wimbledon 35 12 10 13 44 41 46 3
12 Liverpool 34 12 10 12 45 44 46 1
13 Southampton 36 12 10 14 48 49 46 -1
14 Chelsea 35 11 13 11 38 42 46 -4
15 Everton 36 13 6 17 43 45 45 -2
16 Ipswich Town 35 10 15 10 40 42 45 -2
17 Leeds Utd. 34 11 11 12 44 47 44 -3
18 Crystal Palace 34 9 13 12 40 49 40 -9
19 Sheffield Utd. 34 10 7 17 40 44 37 -4
20 Nottingham For 34 9 9 16 33 47 36 -14
21 Oldham Athletic 34 9 8 17 46 60 35 -14
22 Middlesbrough 35 8 10 17 42 60 34 -18
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13.346 | | ARNIES::SMITHP1 | mumble mumble orange | Thu Mar 25 1993 14:18 | 6 |
|
It's amazing to think that only 6 points separate 4th position
from 17th.
p1
|
13.347 | Results & table | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Mon Apr 05 1993 21:45 | 37 |
| Sat
Blackburn Rovers 4 - 1 Liverpool
Chelsea 4 - 0 Middlesbrough
Coventry City 2 - 0 Southampton
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 QPR
Man City 3 - 1 Ipswich Town
Oldham Athletic 6 - 2 Wimbledon
Sun
Nottingham For 0 - 1 Aston Villa
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Aston Villa 36 19 10 7 52 33 67 19
2 Norwich City 36 19 8 9 50 49 65 1
3 Man Utd. 35 17 12 6 51 27 63 24
4 Blackburn Rovers 34 14 11 9 51 34 53 17
5 Man City 35 14 8 13 49 40 50 9
6 Sheffield Wed. 33 13 11 9 42 37 50 5
7 Coventry City 37 13 11 13 48 47 50 1
8 QPR 36 13 10 13 48 46 49 2
9 Chelsea 36 12 13 11 42 42 49 0
10 Tottenham Hotspur 34 13 10 11 43 49 49 -6
11 Arsenal 33 13 8 12 33 30 47 3
12 Wimbledon 36 12 10 14 46 47 46 -1
13 Liverpool 35 12 10 13 46 48 46 -2
14 Southampton 37 12 10 15 48 51 46 -3
15 Everton 36 13 6 17 43 45 45 -2
16 Ipswich Town 36 10 15 11 41 45 45 -4
17 Leeds Utd. 34 11 11 12 44 47 44 -3
18 Crystal Palace 35 9 14 12 41 50 41 -9
19 Oldham Athletic 35 10 8 17 52 62 38 -10
20 Sheffield Utd. 34 10 7 17 40 44 37 -4
21 Nottingham For 35 9 9 17 33 48 36 -15
22 Middlesbrough 36 8 10 18 42 64 34 -22
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13.348 | United go 2nd | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Tue Apr 06 1993 14:37 | 14 |
| Norwich City 1 - 3 Man Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Aston Villa 36 19 10 7 52 33 67 19
2 Man Utd. 36 18 12 6 54 28 66 26
3 Norwich City 37 19 8 10 51 52 65 -1
4 Blackburn Rovers 34 14 11 9 51 34 53 17
5 Man City 35 14 8 13 49 40 50 9
6 Sheffield Wed. 33 13 11 9 42 37 50 5
.
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13.349 | Results over the last week.... | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Tue Apr 13 1993 14:45 | 67 |
| Tues 6th
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Chelsea
Middlesbrough 1 - 0 Arsenal
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Wed 7th
Nottingham For 1 - 3 Blackburn Rovers
Oldham Athletic 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Fri 9th
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 1 Man City
Tottenham Hotspur 5 - 1 Norwich City
Wimbledon 4 - 0 Crystal Palace
Sat 10th
Aston Villa 0 - 0 Coventry City
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Arsenal
Leeds Utd. 5 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Liverpool 1 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Man Utd. 2 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Middlesbrough 1 - 2 Everton
QPR 4 - 3 Nottingham For
Southampton 1 - 0 Chelsea
Mon 12th
Arsenal 0 - 1 Aston Villa
Chelsea 4 - 2 Wimbledon
Coventry City 0 - 1 Man Utd.
Crystal Palace 4 - 1 Middlesbrough
Everton 3 - 5 QPR
Man City 1 - 1 Liverpool
Nottingham For 2 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Sheffield Wed. 5 - 2 Southampton
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 38 20 12 6 57 29 72 28
2 Aston Villa 38 20 11 7 53 33 71 20
3 Norwich City 38 19 8 11 52 57 65 -5
4 Blackburn Rovers 37 16 11 10 58 41 59 17
5 QPR 38 15 10 13 57 52 55 5
6 Sheffield Wed. 36 14 12 10 49 42 54 7
7 Chelsea 39 13 14 12 47 46 53 1
8 Man City 37 14 10 13 51 42 52 9
9 Tottenham Hotspur 36 14 10 12 49 52 52 -3
10 Coventry City 39 13 12 14 48 48 51 0
11 Arsenal 36 14 8 14 35 33 50 2
12 Liverpool 37 13 11 13 48 49 50 -1
13 Wimbledon 38 13 10 15 52 51 49 1
14 Southampton 39 13 10 16 51 56 49 -5
15 Everton 38 14 6 18 48 51 48 -3
16 Leeds Utd. 36 12 11 13 50 51 47 -1
17 Ipswich Town 39 10 16 13 44 50 46 -6
18 Crystal Palace 37 10 14 13 45 55 44 -10
19 Sheffield Utd. 36 11 8 17 43 46 41 -3
20 Oldham Athletic 37 10 9 18 53 64 39 -11
21 Nottingham For 38 10 9 19 39 56 39 -17
22 Middlesbrough 39 9 10 20 45 70 37 -25
Al
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13.350 | No change at top or bottom | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Mon Apr 19 1993 17:06 | 41 |
| Sat
Leeds Utd. 0 - 0 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 4 - 0 Coventry City
Man Utd. 3 - 0 Chelsea
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 3 Blackburn Rovers
Southampton 0 - 0 Everton
Tottenham Hotspur 4 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Wimbledon 1 - 0 Nottingham For
Sun
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Man City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 39 21 12 6 60 29 75 31
2 Aston Villa 39 21 11 7 56 34 74 22
3 Norwich City 39 20 8 11 56 59 68 -3
4 Blackburn Rovers 38 17 11 10 61 42 62 19
5 QPR 38 15 10 13 57 52 55 5
6 Tottenham Hotspur 37 15 10 12 53 53 55 0
7 Sheffield Wed. 36 14 12 10 49 42 54 7
8 Liverpool 38 14 11 13 52 49 53 3
9 Chelsea 40 13 14 13 47 49 53 -2
10 Man City 38 14 10 14 52 45 52 7
11 Wimbledon 39 14 10 15 53 51 52 2
12 Coventry City 40 13 12 15 48 52 51 -4
13 Arsenal 36 14 8 14 35 33 50 2
14 Southampton 40 13 11 16 51 56 50 -5
15 Everton 39 14 7 18 48 51 49 -3
16 Leeds Utd. 38 12 12 14 52 55 48 -3
17 Ipswich Town 39 10 16 13 44 50 46 -6
18 Crystal Palace 38 10 15 13 45 55 45 -10
19 Sheffield Utd. 38 11 9 18 45 50 42 -5
20 Oldham Athletic 39 10 10 19 55 69 40 -14
21 Nottingham For 39 10 9 20 39 57 39 -18
22 Middlesbrough 39 9 10 20 45 70 37 -25
Tonight
Ipswich v Norwich
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13.351 | It's a 2 horse race now | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Tue Apr 20 1993 15:57 | 41 |
| Ipswich Town 3 - 1 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 39 21 12 6 60 29 75 31
2 Aston Villa 39 21 11 7 56 34 74 22
3 Norwich City 40 20 8 12 57 62 68 -5 *
4 Blackburn Rovers 38 17 11 10 61 42 62 19 *
5 QPR 38 15 10 13 57 52 55 5
6 Tottenham Hotspur 37 15 10 12 53 53 55 0 *
7 Sheffield Wed. 36 14 12 10 49 42 54 7 *
8 Liverpool 38 14 11 13 52 49 53 3
9 Chelsea 40 13 14 13 47 49 53 -2
10 Man City 38 14 10 14 52 45 52 7
11 Wimbledon 39 14 10 15 53 51 52 2
12 Coventry City 40 13 12 15 48 52 51 -4
13 Arsenal 36 14 8 14 35 33 50 2 #
14 Southampton 40 13 11 16 51 56 50 -5
15 Everton 39 14 7 18 48 51 49 -3 **
16 Ipswich Town 40 11 16 13 47 51 49 -4 **
17 Leeds Utd. 38 12 12 14 52 55 48 -3 **
18 Crystal Palace 38 10 15 13 45 55 45 -10 **
19 Sheffield Utd. 38 11 9 18 45 50 42 -5 **
20 Oldham Athletic 39 10 10 19 55 69 40 -14
21 Nottingham For 39 10 9 20 39 57 39 -18
22 Middlesbrough 39 9 10 20 45 70 37 -25
Norwich's faint hopes of the title have now dissappeared. It is now
mathematically impossible to win, and If Villa get 1 more point they can kiss the
runners up spot good-bye too. They could even lose 3rd place as Blackburn are 6
points behind with 2 games in hand.
* Possibility of a UEFA place If Arsenal win F.A. Cup Final
** 50 points required for absolute safety
# Already in UEFA, but can still mathematically come 3rd until Norwich
get another point.
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13.352 | Tues & Wed Results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Thu Apr 22 1993 16:51 | 45 |
| Tues
Middlesbrough 3 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Wed
Arsenal 1 - 1 Nottingham For
Blackburn Rovers 3 - 0 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Man Utd.
Liverpool 2 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Man City 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 40 22 12 6 62 29 78 33
2 Aston Villa 40 21 11 8 56 37 74 19
3 Norwich City 40 20 8 12 57 62 68 -5 *
4 Blackburn Rovers 39 18 11 10 64 42 65 22 *
5 Liverpool 39 15 11 13 54 49 56 5
6 Sheffield Wed. 37 14 13 10 50 43 55 7 *
7 QPR 38 15 10 13 57 52 55 5
8 Tottenham Hotspur 38 15 10 13 53 56 55 -3
9 Man City 39 14 11 14 53 46 53 7
10 Wimbledon 40 14 11 15 54 52 53 2
11 Chelsea 40 13 14 13 47 49 53 -2
12 Arsenal 37 14 9 14 36 34 51 2 #
13 Coventry City 40 13 12 15 48 52 51 -4
14 Southampton 40 13 11 16 51 56 50 -5
15 Everton 39 14 7 18 48 51 49 -3 **
16 Ipswich Town 40 11 16 13 47 51 49 -4 **
17 Leeds Utd. 39 12 12 15 52 57 48 -5 **
18 Crystal Palace 39 10 15 14 45 57 45 -12 **
19 Sheffield Utd. 39 11 10 18 46 51 43 -5 **
20 Oldham Athletic 39 10 10 19 55 69 40 -14
21 Nottingham For 40 10 10 20 40 58 40 -18
22 Middlesbrough 40 10 10 20 48 70 40 -22
* Possibility of a UEFA place If Arsenal win F.A. Cup Final
** 50 points required for absolute safety
# Already in UEFA Cup.
That's it until May 1st
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13.353 | Weekend results, please! | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Mon Apr 26 1993 13:48 | 2 |
|
Is the UK on holiday today? Was any football played at the weekend?
|
13.354 | England 1 Holland 3 | UTROP1::JANSEN | Reading Blondes have more fun | Mon Apr 26 1993 14:10 | 10 |
| <<< Note 13.353 by MOEUR1::SMITH >>>
-< Weekend results, please! >-
>> Is the UK on holiday today? Was any football played at the weekend?
No Premier League this weekend 'cause England are playing Holland on
Wednesday.
T_
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13.355 | Me? Out of touch? Obviously! | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Mon Apr 26 1993 14:22 | 6 |
|
Does that mean there is no footie tonight, live on Sky?
Therefore, do Man. Utd play Blackburn this time next week?
Ian
|
13.356 | No play in the lower divisions either? | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Mon Apr 26 1993 14:27 | 2 |
|
West Ham in particular?
|
13.357 | Both on Sky | WARNUT::WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Mon Apr 26 1993 15:01 | 3 |
| re .355
Villa vs Oldham 4.00pm Sunday
United vs Blackburn 7:45pm Monday
|
13.358 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon Apr 26 1993 15:29 | 11 |
| All other divisions had a full schedule:
Some Up's and downs so far
D1 Bristol Rovers down after losing 2-1 at WHU
D2 Chester City down ( for the last few weeks )
D3 Barnet & Cardiff Promoted
Vauxhall Conf Wycombe Wanderers - Champions
|
13.359 | Top Div 1 | XSTACY::KMCGRATH | Long road, patient donkey | Mon Apr 26 1993 18:16 | 13 |
| West Ham won 2-1 vs Bristol Rvrs on Saturday, but Portsmouth and Newcastle also
had victories, so the top of the table looks like this :
Pld F A Pts
Newcastle 43 81 36 87
Portsmouth 44 77 41 85
-----------------------------
West Ham 44 76 40 82
Swindon 44 73 55 76
Leicester 44 70 57 75
Tranmere 43 67 53 72
-----------------------------
Millwall 44 64 47 70
|
13.360 | Update please | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Tue May 04 1993 14:29 | 5 |
| Could somebody post the updated table?
Many thanks -
JF
|
13.361 | As requested - This weekends results & table | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Tue May 04 1993 15:34 | 50 |
| Sat
Chelsea 2 - 1 Coventry City
Crystal Palace 3 - 1 Ipswich Town
Everton 0 - 0 Arsenal
Leeds Utd. 1 - 1 QPR
Norwich City 1 - 0 Liverpool
Nottingham For 0 - 2 Sheffield Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 3 Middlesbrough
Southampton 0 - 1 Man City
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Sun
Aston Villa 0 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Mon
Man Utd. 3 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 41 23 12 6 65 30 81 35 ***CHAMPIONS***
2 Aston Villa 41 21 11 9 56 38 74 18 Runners Up
3 Norwich City 41 21 8 12 58 62 71 -4 *
4 Blackburn Rovers 40 18 11 11 65 45 65 20 *
5 Man City 40 15 11 14 54 46 56 8
6 QPR 39 15 11 13 58 53 56 5
7 Liverpool 40 15 11 14 54 50 56 4
8 Chelsea 41 14 14 13 49 50 56 -1
9 Tottenham Hotspur 39 15 11 13 54 57 56 -3
10 Sheffield Wed. 38 14 13 11 52 46 55 6
11 Wimbledon 41 14 12 15 55 53 54 2
12 Arsenal 38 14 10 14 36 34 52 2 #
13 Coventry City 41 13 12 16 49 54 51 -5
14 Everton 40 14 8 18 48 51 50 -3
15 Southampton 41 13 11 17 51 57 50 -6
16 Leeds Utd. 40 12 13 15 53 58 49 -5 **
17 Ipswich Town 41 11 16 14 48 54 49 -6 **
18 Crystal Palace 40 11 15 14 48 58 48 -10 **
19 Sheffield Utd. 40 12 10 18 48 51 46 -3 **
20 Oldham Athletic 40 11 10 19 56 69 43 -13 **
21 Middlesbrough 41 11 10 20 51 72 43 -21 **
22 Nottingham For 41 10 10 21 40 60 40 -20 Relegated
* Can Get UEFA spot if Arsenal Win F.A. Cup
# UEFA Cup Place Guaranteed
** Any team can go down still mathematically, but probably 2 of the bottom 4
Al
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13.362 | Middlesbrough bite the dust | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Wed May 05 1993 15:44 | 42 |
| Results from last night:
Arsenal 0 - 0 QPR
Everton 0 - 2 Sheffield Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 41 23 12 6 65 30 81 35 ***CHAMPIONS***
2 Aston Villa 41 21 11 9 56 38 74 18 Runners up
3 Norwich City 41 21 8 12 58 62 71 -4 *
4 Blackburn Rovers 40 18 11 11 65 45 65 20 *
5 QPR 40 15 12 13 58 53 57 5
6 Man City 40 15 11 14 54 46 56 8
7 Sheffield Wed. 39 14 14 11 53 47 56 6
8 Liverpool 40 15 11 14 54 50 56 4
9 Chelsea 41 14 14 13 49 50 56 -1
10 Tottenham Hotspur 39 15 11 13 54 57 56 -3
11 Wimbledon 41 14 12 15 55 53 54 2
12 Arsenal 39 14 11 14 36 34 53 2 #
13 Coventry City 41 13 12 16 49 54 51 -5
14 Leeds Utd. 41 12 14 15 54 59 50 -5
15 Everton 41 14 8 19 48 53 50 -5
16 Southampton 41 13 11 17 51 57 50 -6
17 Sheffield Utd. 41 13 10 18 50 51 49 -1 **
18 Ipswich Town 41 11 16 14 48 54 49 -6 **
19 Crystal Palace 40 11 15 14 48 58 48 -10 **
20 Oldham Athletic 40 11 10 19 56 69 43 -13 ***
21 Middlesbrough 41 11 10 20 51 72 43 -21 Relegated
22 Nottingham For 41 10 10 21 40 60 40 -20 Relegated
* Can Get UEFA spot if Arsenal Win F.A. Cup
# UEFA Cup Place Guaranteed
** Any team can go down still mathematically, but Oldham are favourites
Al
|
13.363 | Ups & Downs so far | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Wed May 05 1993 15:56 | 40 |
| Up's and downs so far
PREM Champions Manchester United
Runners Up Aston Villa
Relegated Middlesrough
Nottingham Forest
D1 Champions Newcastle United
Runners Up & Playoff places
West Ham United
Portsmouth
Swindon Town
Tranmere Rovers
Leicester City
Relegated Bristol Rovers
D2 Champions Stoke City
Runners Up & Playoff places
Port Vale
Bolton Wanderers
WBA
Swansea City
Stockport County/Leyton Orient
Relegated Chester City
Mansfield Town
Wigan Athletic
D3 Promoted Barnet
Cardiff
Wrexham
Not sure about play off places
GMVC Champions Wycombe Wanderers
|
13.364 | | XSTACY::KMCGRATH | Long road, patient donkey | Wed May 05 1993 19:31 | 1 |
| Anyone got the table for the bottom of Division 1??
|
13.365 | | PEKING::SERJEANTS | Don't end up a Victim of Love | Wed May 05 1993 19:42 | 14 |
|
P W D L GF GA PTS
Luton 45 10 21 14 47 60 51
Sunderland 45 13 11 21 49 61 50
Southend 45 12 13 20 52 63 49
Notts Co 44 11 16 17 52 67 49
Brentford 45 13 10 22 51 67 49
-------------------------------
Cambridge 45 11 16 18 48 67 49
Birmingham 45 12 12 21 49 72 48
Bristol R 45 9 11 25 52 87 38
Steve..
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13.366 | | ECCGY4::HAIGH | Only 6 days to Run Rig | Thu May 06 1993 12:28 | 6 |
|
Could someone put the results of last nights game in? Premier, 1st
and 2nd if possible? How do they affect relegation and promotion?
Steve
|
13.367 | Too Close To Call | PANIC::ANDERSON | The original Magpies | Thu May 06 1993 12:36 | 20 |
| Premier
Man City 0 Palace 0
Oldham 3 Liverpool 2
Tottenham 1 Blackburn 2
Oldham now three points behind Palace with one to play - The FE's at
Highbury (where they have never got a point ?), The Latics home to
Southampton.
Div 1
Derby 2 Notts County 0
Notts still in danger of relegation for the second season running. Any
two of seven clubs will join Bristol Rovers; favourites are Cambridge
(at West Ham on Saturday), and Brentford (at Bristol City) or Notts or
Sunderland (playing each other)
Rob
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13.368 | Updated Prem table FYI | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Thu May 06 1993 15:42 | 24 |
| Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 41 23 12 6 65 30 81 35
2 Aston Villa 41 21 11 9 56 38 74 18
3 Norwich City 41 21 8 12 58 62 71 -4
4 Blackburn Rovers 41 19 11 11 67 46 68 21
5 Man City 41 15 12 14 54 46 57 8
6 QPR 40 15 12 13 58 53 57 5
7 Sheffield Wed. 39 14 14 11 53 47 56 6
8 Liverpool 41 15 11 15 56 53 56 3
9 Chelsea 41 14 14 13 49 50 56 -1
10 Tottenham Hotspur 40 15 11 14 55 59 56 -4
11 Wimbledon 41 14 12 15 55 53 54 2
12 Arsenal 39 14 11 14 36 34 53 2
13 Coventry City 41 13 12 16 49 54 51 -5
14 Leeds Utd. 41 12 14 15 54 59 50 -5
15 Everton 41 14 8 19 48 53 50 -5
16 Southampton 41 13 11 17 51 57 50 -6
17 Sheffield Utd. 41 13 10 18 50 51 49 -1
18 Ipswich Town 41 11 16 14 48 54 49 -6
19 Crystal Palace 41 11 16 14 48 58 49 -10
20 Oldham Athletic 41 12 10 19 59 71 46 -12
21 Middlesbrough 41 11 10 20 51 72 43 -21
22 Nottingham For 41 10 10 21 40 60 40 -20
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13.369 | Confirmation required please... | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Thu May 06 1993 16:57 | 13 |
|
Can someone please answer a debate between two people (English)
currently residing in France. We've seen a lot of comments about goals
scored, goal difference over this week, and would like to be certain
how relegation places are determined if two or more teams finish on the
same number of points, please?
For example, take the bottom of the premier division, if Oldham win,
and Sheff. Utd, Ipswich and Palace lose, (I don't know who plays who
either!), how will the place be decided?
Cheers,
Ian
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13.370 | | ECCGY4::HAIGH | Only 6 days to Run Rig | Thu May 06 1993 17:03 | 9 |
|
Goal difference first then goals scored. So if Oldham win even if
only by 1 goal and Palace lose also by one goal, Oldham will finish
above Palace, because they have scored more goals.
I hope Oldham make it, not because I don't like Palace, I just
think Oldham are far more entertaining.
Steve
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13.371 | | SUBURB::COMMIT | Commit Group | Thu May 06 1993 17:09 | 7 |
| Re 370
>>>I hope Oldham make it, not because I don:t like Palace,
I just think Oldham are far more entertaining.
Well lets be honest, who isn't more entertaining than Palace.
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13.372 | But am I joking? | SUBURB::PRATTJ | You're joking - Jason what? | Thu May 06 1993 17:11 | 5 |
|
West Brom???
;-)
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13.373 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Thu May 06 1993 17:39 | 5 |
| What .370 said is correct for the Premier League, however
the rest of the football league have adopted a new system this
year where the goals scored comes before Goal difference.
Al
|
13.374 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Tripple ripple truffle shuffler | Thu May 06 1993 17:45 | 7 |
| > What .370 said is correct for the Premier League, however
> the rest of the football league have adopted a new system this
> year where the goals scored comes before Goal difference.
Superfluous "rest of", sorry to be pedantic.
Tim ;-)
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13.375 | | ECCGY4::HAIGH | Only 6 days to Run Rig | Thu May 06 1993 18:02 | 4 |
|
Re .373
Is that right? The thing's you didn't you, you didn't know.
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13.376 | How many times have you seen Palace play? | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Scuba Dive in my Think Tank | Thu May 06 1993 18:05 | 22 |
| Re -2 or 3
Thank you for your wonderfully charitable support - what have Palace
ever done to you? Palace started this season playing very bright
inventive football (even the Guardian admitted it) then lost Salako for
A SECOND TIME and had a horrendous run of injuries leading to no
consistency at all, plus we could not afford the sort of prices being
asked for quality strikers to replace Bright and Wright. We struck
incredibly lucky with Chris Armstrong - one of the brightest prospects
in the League.
Unlike the "big" teams, we grow our own team, we have to. They either
come from the youth team or from low cost investments such as Thomas
for #50k, Wright for virtually nothing etc.
You may not want us to stay up - so when your team whoever they may be
get in the same situation - I hope we we will be able to send them
down.
yours graciously
Paul
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13.377 | Oldham AND Palace survive...Wimbledon docked 10 pts | TRUCKS::SANT | This is as good as it gets! | Thu May 06 1993 18:29 | 12 |
|
So tell us, Paul...what's it like having "everyone" wishing ill
of YOUR team for a change ;-)
I've had to read no end of "uncharitable" comments about United
for god-knows-how-long....
One thing's for sure. The "Premier" League will be short of a
couple of attractive sides next year (Forest, Palace/Oldham),
with some of the more undesirables escaping relegation again.
Andy.
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13.378 | | SUBURB::COMMIT | Commit Group | Thu May 06 1993 18:36 | 19 |
| Re 377
What another boring note.
"We're so humble, we supoort Man Utd and no one likes us". After reading
note 32, I'm not surprised.
Why must you lot always rag on Wimbledon? Why don't you leave them
alone?
I for one think it would be great to see Palace go down so that we
never have to listen to another Steve Coppell interview on Match of the
Day.
As for having the chance of sending us down.... I don't think so.
Barry
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13.379 | | TRUCKS::SANT | This is as good as it gets! | Thu May 06 1993 18:39 | 4 |
|
Yeah, right Barry...
Sorry it was so boring. I'll try harder next time 8-(
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13.380 | | SUBURB::COMMIT | Commit Group | Thu May 06 1993 18:42 | 5 |
| Is it possible to get more exciting? I look forward to reading your
next response with interest.
Barry
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13.381 | Wombles in Selhurst Cash Injection - NOT | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Scuba Dive in my Think Tank | Thu May 06 1993 18:49 | 18 |
| Barry - you neglect to say who "us" are.
Most dire teams seen at Selhurst this season -
Coventry
Southampton
Everton
Man City
and anyone who reckons we play long ball - look at Man City - hump it
Quinn and hope.
By the way - Utd played reasonably at Selhurst, not as well as I've
seen them on the box and they deserve the title. (God that hurt!)
Anything to see Liverpool not win - the dirtiest side to visit us this
year by far. What does Burrows think ihe is upto?
Paul
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13.382 | West Ham to Return | CURRNT::SHAW | | Thu May 06 1993 18:51 | 4 |
| Lets not forget Andy that one of the most attractive sides in the land will
be returning to the Premier League next year - West Ham.
Ray
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13.383 | | SUBURB::COMMIT | Commit Group | Thu May 06 1993 19:19 | 22 |
| Mr Pateman us are West Bromwich Albion. We are not boring. With Ossie
Ardilies as manager and Keith Burkenshaw as no.2 we are on the up.
There first season in charge has seen us play some...how can I put
this... class football. Gone are the big hoof days of Bobby Gould.
This season has been pretty amazing considering last season, we were
playing the long ball game.
If Palace are lucky and they sack Coppell they might even see such a
transformation at Selhurst.
At the moment though, Wimbledon are the only footballing side in South
London.
Re .383
Well if West Ham go the same way they usually go then they'll be going
down the following season. So it could be a laugh seeing them go up.
Barry
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13.384 | | ECCGY4::HAIGH | Epithets for my epitaph | Thu May 06 1993 19:18 | 8 |
|
Seemed to have touched a Palace nerve, sorry I spoke. City don't
play the long ball game, Quinn is a strategic target man! ;-)
Seriously though, City have resorted to the long ball game a few
times this year (only when Reid isn't playing though) and it disturbs me
a good deal. Hopefully we will get back to the 'old ways' next year.
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13.385 | I smell a rathole | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Scuba Dive in my Think Tank | Thu May 06 1993 19:26 | 11 |
| Re -2
One trusts that references to Wimbledon and football are in jest. While
they are not as bad as they are made out - Holdsworth & Earle are
excellent players - they are not a good advert for the game with their
general approach. We just wish they would move out.
As for Coppell - he hardly ever speaks on TV, and has brought Palace
unprecedented success. When were West Brom last at Wembley?
Paul
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13.386 | WIMBLEDON 4 CRYSTAL PALACE 0 | SUBURB::COMMIT | Commit Group | Thu May 06 1993 19:58 | 16 |
| Mr Pateman
When or have you won anything good at Wembley. I don't mean the Mickey
Mouse cups that we associate with Palace. I'm talking FA Cups and
League Cups. Have you ever been in Europe?
Oh by the way, we have the chance of reaching Wembley in the Play-offs.
As for saying my references to Wimbledon are in jest, I'll let you know
they are not. They have no money, no fans, Vinny Jones and no
footballers and yet all you can do is take the p%ss and laugh at them.\
LEAVE WIMBLEDON ALONE!
Barry
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13.387 | | YUPPY::PANES | Seratonin junkie | Fri May 07 1993 12:55 | 13 |
| <<< Note 13.386 by SUBURB::COMMIT "Commit Group" >>>
-< WIMBLEDON 4 CRYSTAL PALACE 0 >-
> When or have you won anything good at Wembley. I don't mean the Mickey
> Mouse cups that we associate with Palace. I'm talking FA Cups and
> League Cups. Have you ever been in Europe?
Palace were denied a place in Europe when Scousepool had their ban
prematurely lifted.
Stuart
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13.388 | | ARNIES::SMITHP1 | Throw another permie on the fire | Fri May 07 1993 14:58 | 6 |
|
Well (Rod!) I hope Palace stay in the Premier, and I'm looking
forward to next season, when I truly hope to see the likes of
Liverpool and Manchester United deep in relegation misery.
p1$provocative_noting_at_its_best
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13.389 | What John Lennon meant to say but it was too provocative | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Fri May 07 1993 16:29 | 2 |
|
"But you're still Crystal Palace as far as I can see"
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13.390 | Palace to survive but only just | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Fri May 07 1993 16:41 | 5 |
|
Considering Arsenal's recent form what odds another 0-0 draw on
Saturday?
Gary.
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13.391 | nil desperendum | YUPPY::PANES | Seratonin junkie | Fri May 07 1993 17:02 | 17 |
| <<< Note 13.390 by GALVIA::SPAIN "There's always the U.S." >>>
-< Palace to survive but only just >-
> Considering Arsenal's recent form what odds another 0-0 draw on
> Saturday?
> Gary.
I reckon that they will put out their potential FA Cup team, and give us
our normal Highbury humping.
Grimsby here we come.
Stuart
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13.392 | The F.E.'s to survive (I hope) | PANIC::ANDERSON | The original Magpies | Fri May 07 1993 17:05 | 10 |
|
Gary,
Surely, the truer guide to form should come from the Neville Ovenden
Combination ;-)
(What have been Palace's recent results at Highbury against Arsenal
Reserves ?)
Rob
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13.393 | Sensitive? Moi? | TRUCKS::SANT | This is as good as it gets! | Fri May 07 1993 17:46 | 28 |
|
I'm struggling here, guys.....why so much anymosity towards
Crystal Palace?
My earlier note, which incurred the wrath of one noter so I
didn't bother commenting further for fear of more personal
attacks, was meant seriously.
I think Palace should stay up. They have an exciting set of
youngsters who Coppell has been forced to "blood" in the premier
league. One or two of them look to be made of the right stuff.
Armstrong is a tremendous prospect, and there are others....
And to be fair, Coppell has had little choice but to try them,
due to injuries to a small squad. No Sounessesque whinging from
Selhurst Park, though...
Coppell is a good coach. He deserves a break. It's sad that
Oldham are to suffer at their expense, as surely Palace will get
at least the draw they need at Highbury.
I'd prefer to see a couple of the sides that kick lumps out of the
opposition week-in week-out, and are rewarded with league fines
and disrepute charges for their "players" on a regular basis,
get relegated. You can determine for yourself who they might be.
Andy.
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13.394 | | SUBURB::COMMIT | Commit Group | Fri May 07 1993 17:56 | 11 |
| Re 393
A bit better but its a bit harsh saying Liverpool should be relegated
for kicking lumps out of other teams. No doubt your also refering to
Wimbledon...
Well thats to be expected from most noters I suppose.
Barry
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13.395 | | PEKING::DAVIESG | IN YOUR FACE! | Fri May 07 1993 19:53 | 6 |
|
Arsenal will probably play about 1 or 2 of their regular players
because of the FAAAAA cup final. I reckon Palace will win
Cheerz
|
13.396 | Joe "Houdini" Royle | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Sun May 09 1993 21:22 | 6 |
|
Arsenal came out with all guns blazing and beat Palace 3-0. From MotD
Palace appeared to be unlucky. Oldham beat Soton 4-3 in a thriller to
survive.
Gary.
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13.397 | | ECCGY4::HAIGH | Epithets for my epitaph | Mon May 10 1993 12:45 | 15 |
|
As I brought up the subject; I personnally have nothing against
Palace or Coppell (even if he did play for United), it is simply that I
think Oldham deserve a place in the Premier league more than they do,
and for that matter more than many teams do.
I also think Oldham have had some bad luck this year. I saw them
play City at Boundary park, City won, but Oldham should have had a
penalty and to be fair were the better team.
Good luck to Palacae next year, and congratulations to Oldham.
Winning 4-3 to stay up underlines what an entertaining team they are.
Steve
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13.398 | Final Weekend results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon May 10 1993 13:54 | 47 |
| Sat
Arsenal 3 - 0 Crystal Palace
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Coventry City 3 - 3 Leeds Utd.
Ipswich Town 2 - 1 Nottingham For
Liverpool 6 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Man City 2 - 5 Everton
Middlesbrough 3 - 3 Norwich City
Oldham Athletic 4 - 3 Southampton
Sheffield Utd. 4 - 2 Chelsea
Sun
Wimbledon 1 - 2 Man Utd.
QPR 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 42 24 12 6 67 31 84 36
2 Aston Villa 42 21 11 10 57 40 74 17
3 Norwich City 42 21 9 12 61 65 72 -4
4 Blackburn Rovers 42 20 11 11 68 46 71 22
5 QPR 41 16 12 13 60 54 60 6
6 Liverpool 42 16 11 15 62 55 59 7
7 Sheffield Wed. 41 15 14 12 54 48 59 6
8 Man City 42 15 12 15 56 51 57 5
9 Arsenal 41 15 11 15 39 35 56 4
10 Chelsea 42 14 14 14 51 54 56 -3
11 Tottenham Hotspur 41 15 11 15 57 65 56 -8
12 Wimbledon 42 14 12 16 56 55 54 1
13 Everton 42 15 8 19 53 55 53 -2
14 Sheffield Utd. 42 14 10 18 54 53 52 1
15 Coventry City 42 13 13 16 52 57 52 -5
16 Ipswich Town 42 12 16 14 50 55 52 -5
17 Leeds Utd. 42 12 15 15 57 62 51 -5
18 Southampton 42 13 11 18 54 61 50 -7
19 Oldham Athletic 42 13 10 19 63 74 49 -11
20 Crystal Palace 42 11 16 15 48 61 49 -13
21 Middlesbrough 42 11 11 20 54 75 44 -21
22 Nottingham For 42 10 10 22 41 62 40 -21
Still to play:
QPR v Sheffield Wed
Arsenal v Tottenham
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13.399 | Will it be Pompey or TGA in the premier? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | on the Streets of San Francisco | Mon May 10 1993 20:40 | 6 |
| So what happened in the lower divisions - what is the schedule for
the playoffs.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.400 | From memory | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon May 10 1993 20:57 | 52 |
| Up's and downs 92/93
PREM Champions Manchester United
Runners Up Aston Villa
Relegated Crystal Palace
Middlesrough
Nottingham Forest
D1 Champions Newcastle United
Runners Up West Ham United
Playoff places Portsmouth
Swindon Town
Tranmere Rovers
Leicester City
Relegated Brentford
Cambridge Utd.
Bristol Rovers
D2 Champions Stoke City
Runners Up Bolton Wanderers
Playoff places Port Vale
WBA
Swansea City
Stockport County
Relegated Preston NE
Chester City
Mansfield Town
Wigan Athletic
D3 Promoted Barnet
Cardiff
Wrexham
Playoff places York City
Shrewsbury
Crewe
Bury
Relegated Halifax Town
GMVC Champions Wycombe Wanderers
I'm pretty sure about Div3 but I need to confirm
Al
|
13.401 | | SUBURB::COMMIT | Commit Group | Mon May 10 1993 20:59 | 8 |
| Re 400
Walsall made the play-offs instead of Shrewsbury.
Barry
|
13.402 | Try Again - D3 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon May 10 1993 21:09 | 10 |
| D3 Champions Cardiff
Promoted Barnet
Wrexham
Playoff places York City
Walsall
Crewe
Bury
Relegated Halifax Town
|
13.403 | 1993/4 - Getting Smaller? | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Scuba Dive in my Think Tank | Mon May 10 1993 21:14 | 4 |
| Anybody know what happens NEXT season? Does the Premier league start
shrinking at the end of 93/4?
Paul
|
13.404 | 1 out of 2 isn't bad I suppose | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | on the Streets of San Francisco | Mon May 10 1993 23:23 | 10 |
| Al,
Thanks a lot - glad to see Cardiff sneak the title from Barnet - but
dejected to see Pompey lose out to the Hammers. Was it on goal
difference? it must have been close. Hope Swansea don't get promoted
so as to avoid getting a good whalloping at Ninian on Boxing Day
Regards,
Andrew.D.wicks
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13.405 | p | YUPPY::PANES | Seratonin junkie | Tue May 11 1993 12:36 | 20 |
| <<< Note 13.404 by AIMTEC::WICKS_A "on the Streets of San Francisco" >>>
-< 1 out of 2 isn't bad I suppose >-
> Al,
> Thanks a lot - glad to see Cardiff sneak the title from Barnet - but
> dejected to see Pompey lose out to the Hammers. Was it on goal
> difference? it must have been close. Hope Swansea don't get promoted
> so as to avoid getting a good whalloping at Ninian on Boxing Day
> Regards,
> Andrew.D.wicks
I believe that Portsmouth missed out by a goal.
Stuart
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13.406 | A slight correction | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Tue May 11 1993 17:04 | 7 |
|
RE : Last
Portsmouth lost out by TWO goals, coz if they scored one more West Ham
would have still gone up on goal difference (by about 5 better).
Ian
|
13.407 | Play off timetable | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Tue May 11 1993 18:40 | 25 |
| Division 1
Leicester City v Portsmouth (At Nottingham Forest)
Swindon Town v Tranmere Rovers
Division 2
Stockport Cnty v Port Vale
Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion
Division 3
Bury v York City
Crewe Alexandra v Walsall
First leg to be played on Sunday 16th May
Second leg on Wednesday 19th May
Finals ( At Wembley )
Division 1 Monday May 31
Division 2 sunday May 30
Division 3 Saturday May 29
Al
|
13.408 | Final Standings | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Wed May 12 1993 13:29 | 35 |
| The final 2 Premier league games of the Season were played
last night. Both involving Saturday's FA Cup finalists
Arsenal 1 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur
QPR 3 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
The winner of the Premier League's Golden Boot went to
Teddy Sherringham with 22 goals.
The final table looks like this:
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 42 24 12 6 67 31 84 36
2 Aston Villa 42 21 11 10 57 40 74 17
3 Norwich City 42 21 9 12 61 65 72 -4
4 Blackburn Rovers 42 20 11 11 68 46 71 22
5 QPR 42 17 12 13 63 55 63 8
6 Liverpool 42 16 11 15 62 55 59 7
7 Sheffield Wed. 42 15 14 13 55 51 59 4
8 Tottenham Hotspur 42 16 11 15 60 66 59 -6
9 Man City 42 15 12 15 56 51 57 5
10 Arsenal 42 15 11 16 40 38 56 2
11 Chelsea 42 14 14 14 51 54 56 -3
12 Wimbledon 42 14 12 16 56 55 54 1
13 Everton 42 15 8 19 53 55 53 -2
14 Sheffield Utd. 42 14 10 18 54 53 52 1
15 Coventry City 42 13 13 16 52 57 52 -5
16 Ipswich Town 42 12 16 14 50 55 52 -5
17 Leeds Utd. 42 12 15 15 57 62 51 -5
18 Southampton 42 13 11 18 54 61 50 -7
19 Oldham Athletic 42 13 10 19 63 74 49 -11
20 Crystal Palace 42 11 16 15 48 61 49 -13
21 Middlesbrough 42 11 11 20 54 75 44 -21
22 Nottingham For 42 10 10 22 41 62 40 -21
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13.409 | | UNTADH::WILCOCKSON | SWFC FA CUP 93 | Wed May 12 1993 17:38 | 6 |
| It looks like both The Owls and The Arse were taking it easy before
the big game on Saturday.
I hope Arsenal are psychologically destroyed after losing 3 goals to
one at home to the Spurs!!
Al.
|
13.410 | All questions this morning | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Alphatraz - Coming Summer 93 | Mon May 17 1993 20:20 | 7 |
| Where's Al with the playoff scores?
When's the F.A replay?
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.411 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | All my failings exposed | Mon May 17 1993 20:43 | 12 |
|
Here's what I can remember
Swindon 3-1 Tranmere
Leicester 1-0 Portsmouth
Crewe 5-1 Walsall
Stockport 1-1 Port Vale
The thrilling FA cup final replay's on Thursday....zzz zzzz zzz
Paul
|
13.412 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon May 17 1993 20:55 | 40 |
| F.A. Cup Final
Arsenal 1 - 1 Sheffield Wednesday (H.T. 1-0)
Wright Hirst
I thought the game was going to be a re-run of the Coca-Cola Cup Final
at 1/2 time. Wednesday dominating the opening 15 mins. Then Arsenal getting
into the game, scoring and dominating the second half. However, I was wrong.
Wednesday came out with as many cylinders firing as you'd expect after 5 games
in 11 days and took the game to Arsenal. They deservedly equalised through a
well worked goal, and then for the next 10-15 minutes or so looked the more
likely of the 2 sides to take the cup. However, they couldn't get the elusive
goal, and the game fizzled out until the last minute, when Wright forced an
excellent save from Woods, and Arsenal piled on some pressure. Extra time was
a non-event. The only highlight Nilsson's 35 yarder.
F.A. Cup Final Replay
May 20th K.O. 7.30
BBC Starts coverage at 7.20.
Div 1
Leicester 1 - 0 Portsmouth
Swindon 3 - 1 Tranmere
Turned on as Tranmere scored, excellent finish
Div 2
Stockport Cnty 1 - 1 Port Vale
Swansea City 2 - 1 West Bromwich Albion
Div 3
Bury 0 - 0 York City
Crewe Alexandra 5 - 1 Walsall
Al
|
13.413 | Play off 2nd legs... | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Thu May 20 1993 13:44 | 20 |
| Div 1
Portsmouth 2 - 2 Leicester ( 2 - 3 )
Tranmere 3 - 2 Swindon ( 4 - 5 )
Div 2
Port Vale 1 - 0 Stockport County( 2 - 1 )
WBA 2 - 0 Swansea City ( 3 - 2 )
Div 3
York City 1 - 0 Bury ( 1 - 0 )
Walsall 2 - 4 Crewe Alexandra ( 3 - 9 )
So the play-off finals look like this
Sat 29th May York City v Crewe Alexandra
Sun 30th May Port Vale v West Bromwich Albion
Mon 31st May Leicester v Swindon Town
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13.414 | result please... | EICMFG::HOWE | The sinking ship.. has SUNK!! | Tue Jun 01 1993 14:21 | 8 |
|
Could somebody please put me out of my misery and let me know the
result of the Premier league playoff match from yesterday. All that I
heard on the radio on the drive into Heathrow was that Leicester came
back from 3-0 down to get back on level terms with 15 mins to go.
Sounded pretty exciting stuff all in all!
Keith.
|
13.415 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Tripple ripple truffle shuffler | Tue Jun 01 1993 14:23 | 5 |
|
Swindon 4 -3 Leicester. Bodin sealed it with a debatable 83rd minute
penalty.
Tim
|
13.416 | Football, as it should be played ! | FUTURS::ROWELL | Conquistador, in search of gold | Tue Jun 01 1993 15:09 | 45 |
|
But what a game it was !
Excellant football, played in an excellant atmosphere, with an
excellant attitude. As for excitement and drama, I was glad I
was a neutral ( albeit with a slight leaning towards Swindon, as they
are only up the M4). I hope that someone has been thoughtful enough to
take a video copy of this game to the England camp in Norway. With
luck, they may learn something from it(like how to pass).My comiserations
to Leicester City, and their fans. However, I believe that unless any
players get sold( ie Joachim - what a gem), then Leicester will gain
promotion next season, without needing the playoffs. Glen Hoddle is
turning into as classy a manager as he was a player. At the moment, I
cannot decide if I would rather see him, or Kevin Keegan as a future
manager of England. For the present I wish both every success in the
Premier League. (Mind you, I suppose some credit deserves to go to
Ossie Ardiles, as he started the ball rolling at Swindon, and look what
he has done to West Bromwich Albion. He is also in my shortlist of future
England managers).
Whatever happens to Hoddle, I only hope that he is allowed to continue
with the style that he has introduced at Swindon. If he ends up at
Spurs, that goes without saying, as they are already heading that
direction ( or are already there, even ?). If Chelsea get him, will
Bates give him the time and money to produce such a team ?
It appears to me that there are a few successful teams out there,
providing a fair few of the U21 and U19 stars ( the U21 team beat
Poland 4-1 ). I hope that they are encouraged, and allowed to continue
to develop in the style and manner to which they have been accustomed.
Under the right managerial attitudes, Englands future *COULD* be very
bright indeed. Why do I feel so pessimistic about that last sentance ?
If these young lions are capable of playing in a successful team, why
are they never given the chance to play for the National team ? How
many players under the age of 24 is in Taylors squad to play in the
U.S. ?
Thank you Leicester and Swindon. I, for one, applaud you for relighting
a spark of hope in an otherwise dreary league season.
Regards,
Wayne. ( an Arsenal supporter, but a fan of good football played by
anyone)
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13.417 | Game of the Season... | PEKING::WILSOND1 | DAVE WILSON @WLC | Tue Jun 01 1993 15:19 | 10 |
|
Yep..this was one of the best games of the season, whichever league you
watch.
Great to see the old master, Glen Hoddle gracing the Wembley pitch
again. If/When Terry Venables "leaves" WHL, I only hope Hoddle can be
purseuded to come and manage the team, and maybe even play himself now
and again.
Dave...
|
13.418 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Tripple ripple truffle shuffler | Tue Jun 01 1993 15:24 | 12 |
|
Yes, it was a great game and it was by no means atypical of the
football played in the 1st Division as a whole. It has to be said,
that I've gained more enjoyment out of watching any Barclays'
league match, than all bar a few of the televised premier league
matches. The games seem to flow so much better and the 'football'
is of a more creative nature, despite the obvious defensive
niavities. Hopefully, last season's premier league 'enjoyment'
quotient will be improved upon by the addition of Newcastle,
West Ham and Swindon.
Tim
|
13.419 | Scandinavian players? | BCFI::MLUNDGREN | Magnus Lundgren @JAR | Wed Aug 11 1993 11:40 | 12 |
| Hi!
Does anyone have a complete list of which Scandinavian players will play in the
English premier league in the coming season? I would also like to now which team
they play for.
Thanks,
Magnus Lundgren
Stockholm
Scandinavia (!?)
|
13.420 | to get you started | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Wed Aug 11 1993 16:33 | 4 |
| Well, you can check out the Liverpool, Arsenal, Man United, Sheffield Wed
notes for a start . . .
grahame
|
13.421 | Gunnar Halle the Norwegian plays for Oldham | SAC::MAGUIRE_G | | Thu Aug 12 1993 21:47 | 6 |
|
You will find Gunnar Halle in the Oldham Athletic line-up, though it
was reputed that an Italian club were interested in hin in the summer.
G.
|
13.422 | And that concludes the scoring from Highbury... | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Better to reign in hell... | Thu Aug 12 1993 22:33 | 14 |
| Arsenal have to my knowledge:
Pal Lydersen - Norway
John Jensen - Denmark
Anders Limpar - Sweden
Unfortunately the Icelandic Siggi Jonson's departure a couple
of years back has robbed George Graham of a full Norse pack,
if you discount Finland. However, knowing George's Mr Byrite-like
forrays into the transfer market, he's probably got scouts in
Rekjavic (sp?) and Helsinki as we speak looking for that midfielder
who won't make a blind bit of difference to our title hopes.
barry.
|
13.423 | | PEKING::JOLLYL | Viva la rock .... the killer lives on | Fri Aug 13 1993 17:00 | 4 |
|
Erland Jonson - Chelsea
Do you want him back?
|
13.424 | Blackburn - Central Bank of Europe | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Fri Aug 13 1993 19:37 | 18 |
|
Blackburn only have 2 at the moment but according to the press are
probably interested in another 35,
Henning Berg, a very good full back but not Kennys first choice
and
Patrik Andersson, who looks like he could be a decent player but last
season appeared to be taken by surprise by anything that
happened faster than walking-pace.
Still, anybody bought for less than a million can't expect to play in
the first team can they ?
|
13.425 | | NSDC::SIMPSON | The future sure isn't what it used to be | Fri Aug 13 1993 20:57 | 9 |
| RE: .422
>> Unfortunately the Icelandic Siggi Jonson's departure a couple
>> of years back has robbed George Graham of a full Norse pack,
They may not have a Pack Norse, but they do at least have a donkey to make up
for this.
-Steve
|
13.426 | Results - Week1 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon Aug 16 1993 14:24 | 37 |
| Arsenal 0 - 3 Coventry City
Aston Villa 4 - 1 Q.P.R.
Chelsea 1 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Liverpool 2 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Man. City 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Newcastle Utd. 0 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Oldham Athletic 0 - 3 Ipswich Town
Sheffield Utd. 3 - 1 Swindon Town
Southampton 0 - 2 Everton
West Ham Utd. 0 - 2 Wimbledon
Norwich City 0 - 2 Man. Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Aston Villa 1 1 0 0 4 1 3 3
2 Coventry City 1 1 0 0 3 0 3 3
3 Ipswich Town 1 1 0 0 3 0 3 3
4 Sheffield Utd. 1 1 0 0 3 1 3 2
5 Everton 1 1 0 0 2 0 3 2
6 Liverpool 1 1 0 0 2 0 3 2
7 Man. Utd. 1 1 0 0 2 0 3 2
8 Wimbledon 1 1 0 0 2 0 3 2
9 Blackburn Rovers 1 1 0 0 2 1 3 1
10 Tottenham Hotspur 1 1 0 0 1 0 3 1
11 Leeds Utd. 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0
12 Man. City 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0
13 Chelsea 1 0 0 1 1 2 0 -1
14 Newcastle Utd. 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1
15 Swindon Town 1 0 0 1 1 3 0 -2
16 Norwich City 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 -2
17 Sheffield Wed. 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 -2
18 Southampton 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 -2
19 West Ham Utd. 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 -2
20 Q.P.R. 1 0 0 1 1 4 0 -3
21 Arsenal 1 0 0 1 0 3 0 -3
22 Oldham Athletic 1 0 0 1 0 3 0 -3
|
13.427 | Results | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Thu Aug 19 1993 14:24 | 39 |
| Tottenham 0 - 1 Arsenal
Everton 1 - 0 Man. City
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Southampton
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Wimbledon 1 - 1 Chelsea
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 3 Norwich City
Coventry City 2 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Man. Utd. 3 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Q.P.R. 1 - 3 Liverpool
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 0 Aston Villa
Swindon Town 0 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 2 2 0 0 5 0 6 5
2 Coventry City 2 2 0 0 5 1 6 4
3 Liverpool 2 2 0 0 5 1 6 4
4 Ipswich Town 2 2 0 0 4 0 6 4
5 Everton 2 2 0 0 3 0 6 3
6 Aston Villa 2 1 1 0 4 1 4 3
7 Wimbledon 2 1 1 0 3 1 4 2
8 Leeds Utd. 2 1 1 0 2 1 4 1
9 Blackburn Rovers 2 1 0 1 4 4 3 0
10 Tottenham Hotspur 2 1 0 1 1 1 3 0
11 Norwich City 2 1 0 1 3 4 3 -1
12 Sheffield Utd. 2 1 0 1 3 4 3 -1
13 Arsenal 2 1 0 1 1 3 3 -2
14 Oldham Athletic 2 1 0 1 1 3 3 -2
15 Chelsea 2 0 1 1 2 3 1 -1
16 Man. City 2 0 1 1 1 2 1 -1
17 Sheffield Wed. 2 0 1 1 0 2 1 -2
18 Newcastle Utd. 2 0 0 2 1 3 0 -2
19 Swindon Town 2 0 0 2 1 4 0 -3
20 Southampton 2 0 0 2 0 3 0 -3
21 West Ham Utd. 2 0 0 2 0 3 0 -3
22 Q.P.R. 2 0 0 2 2 7 0 -5
|
13.428 | 2nd Weekend | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon Aug 23 1993 14:27 | 39 |
| Blackburn Rovers 1 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Coventry City 1 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Everton 4 - 2 Sheffield Utd.
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Chelsea
Leeds Utd. 0 - 4 Norwich City
Man. Utd. 1 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Q.P.R. 2 - 1 Southampton
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 1 Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 0 Man. City
Wimbledon 2 - 2 Aston Villa
Sun
Swindon Town 0 - 5 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Liverpool 3 3 0 0 10 1 9 9
2 Everton 3 3 0 0 7 2 9 5
3 Ipswich Town 3 3 0 0 5 0 9 5
4 Man. Utd. 3 2 1 0 6 1 7 5
5 Coventry City 3 2 1 0 6 2 7 4
6 Norwich City 3 2 0 1 7 4 6 3
7 Blackburn Rovers 3 2 0 1 5 4 6 1
8 Tottenham Hotspur 3 2 0 1 2 1 6 1
9 Arsenal 3 2 0 1 2 3 6 -1
10 Aston Villa 3 1 2 0 6 3 5 3
11 Wimbledon 3 1 2 0 5 3 5 2
12 Leeds Utd. 3 1 1 1 2 5 4 -3
13 Sheffield Utd. 3 1 0 2 5 8 3 -3
14 Oldham Athletic 3 1 0 2 1 4 3 -3
15 Q.P.R. 3 1 0 2 4 8 3 -4
16 Chelsea 3 0 1 2 2 4 1 -2
17 Newcastle Utd. 3 0 1 2 2 4 1 -2
18 Man. City 3 0 1 2 1 3 1 -2
19 West Ham Utd. 3 0 1 2 1 4 1 -3
20 Sheffield Wed. 3 0 1 2 0 3 1 -3
21 Southampton 3 0 0 3 1 5 0 -4
22 Swindon Town 3 0 0 3 1 9 0 -8
|
13.429 | Not many draws | NEWOA::FIDO_T | Conation is the key | Mon Aug 23 1993 15:53 | 5 |
| It strikes me that only 6 draws from 33 games is a bit on the low side.
Q1 Is it ?
Q2 Has anyone got any theories as to why it is so low ( if it is ) ?
Terry
|
13.430 | variance of sigma squared over jibberish | CHEFS::HARRISR | Goosenargh! | Mon Aug 23 1993 16:00 | 14 |
| << Q1 Is it ?
Q2 Has anyone got any theories as to why it is so low ( if it is )?>>
A1 yes it is low
A2 There is a random distribution of results. There is no way that a
result can be predicted with 100% accuracy, so averages have to come
into play. If on average there are ten draws in a week, then some weeks
there will be more and some there will be less. ( simple ain't it ).
This time there were a lot less, but it still is just part of the
unpredictability of soccer.
Rich H
|
13.431 | Midweek results - No draws again!!! | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Thu Aug 26 1993 14:26 | 45 |
| Mon 23 Aug
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Man Utd.
Tues 24 Aug
Arsenal 2 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Man City 0 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Oldham Athletic 3 - 3 Coventry City
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 1 Wimbledon
Wed 25 Aug
Chelsea 2 - 0 QPR
Liverpool 1 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 0 Everton
Norwich City 1 - 0 Ipswich Town
Southampton 5 - 1 Swindon Town
West Ham Utd. 2 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man Utd. 4 3 1 0 8 2 10 6
2 Liverpool 4 3 0 1 11 3 9 8
3 Norwich City 4 3 0 1 8 4 9 4
4 Everton 4 3 0 1 7 3 9 4
5 Ipswich Town 4 3 0 1 5 1 9 4
6 Blackburn Rovers 4 3 0 1 7 4 9 3
7 Tottenham Hotspur 4 3 0 1 4 2 9 2
8 Arsenal 4 3 0 1 4 4 9 0
9 Coventry City 4 2 2 0 9 5 8 4
10 Sheffield Utd. 4 2 0 2 7 9 6 -2
11 Aston Villa 4 1 2 1 7 5 5 2
12 Wimbledon 4 1 2 1 6 5 5 1
13 Chelsea 4 1 1 2 4 4 4 0
14 Newcastle Utd. 4 1 1 2 3 4 4 -1
15 West Ham Utd. 4 1 1 2 3 4 4 -1
16 Oldham Athletic 4 1 1 2 4 7 4 -3
17 Leeds Utd. 4 1 1 2 3 7 4 -4
18 Southampton 4 1 0 3 6 6 3 0
19 QPR 4 1 0 3 4 10 3 -6
20 Man City 4 0 1 3 1 5 1 -4
21 Sheffield Wed. 4 0 1 3 0 5 1 -5
22 Swindon Town 4 0 0 4 2 14 0 -12
|
13.432 | What's it all mean ? | NEWOA::FIDO_T | Conation is the key | Thu Aug 26 1993 14:49 | 7 |
|
Still only 6 draws from 44 premiership matches
... and only 2 teams left unbeaten after 4 games.
Terry
|
13.433 | This is the second time today I'm after scores!! | EICMFG::HOWE | Life's a pile of sh*t, when you look at it! | Mon Aug 30 1993 19:33 | 5 |
|
Anyone got the Premier League scores from this w/e gone??
Keith.
|
13.434 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | Calais Boston Southport | Mon Aug 30 1993 19:43 | 17 |
|
From memory
Arsenal 2-0 Everton
Aston Villa 1-0 Tottenham
Norwich 0-0 Swindon
Southampton 1-3 Man Utd
Sheff Utd 1-1 Ipswich
Liverpool 2-0 Leeds
Chelsea 1-1 Sheff Wed
West Ham 0-4 QPR
Newcastle 1-1 Blackburn (Sunday)
Man City 1-1 Coventry (Friday)
Paul
|
13.435 | Last 2 rounds | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon Sep 06 1993 15:26 | 59 |
| Fri 27th Aug
Man. City 1 - 1 Coventry City
Sat 28th Aug
Arsenal 2 - 0 Everton
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Liverpool 2 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Norwich City 0 - 0 Swindon Town
Oldham Athletic 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Southampton 1 - 3 Man. Utd.
West Ham Utd. 0 - 4 Q.P.R.
Sun 29th Aug
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Mon 30th Aug
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Tues 31st Aug
Everton 0 - 1 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Wimbledon 1 - 0 Southampton
Wed 1st Sep
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 1 Arsenal
Coventry City 1 - 0 Liverpool
Man. Utd. 3 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Q.P.R. 2 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 3 Norwich City
Swindon Town 1 - 3 Man. City
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Chelsea
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 6 5 1 0 14 3 16 11
2 Arsenal 6 4 1 1 7 5 13 2
3 Liverpool 6 4 0 2 13 4 12 9
4 Coventry City 6 3 3 0 11 6 12 5
5 Norwich City 6 3 2 1 11 7 11 4
6 Aston Villa 6 3 2 1 9 5 11 4
7 Ipswich Town 6 3 2 1 7 3 11 4
8 Blackburn Rovers 6 3 2 1 9 6 11 3
9 Tottenham Hotspur 6 3 1 2 5 4 10 1
10 Wimbledon 6 2 3 1 8 6 9 2
11 Everton 6 3 0 3 7 6 9 1
12 Q.P.R. 6 3 0 3 10 11 9 -1
13 Sheffield Utd. 6 2 1 3 9 12 7 -3
14 Leeds Utd. 6 2 1 3 4 9 7 -5
15 Chelsea 6 1 3 2 6 6 6 0
16 Newcastle Utd. 6 1 3 2 5 6 6 -1
17 Man. City 6 1 2 3 5 7 5 -2
18 Oldham Athletic 6 1 2 3 5 9 5 -4
19 West Ham Utd. 6 1 1 4 3 11 4 -8
20 Southampton 6 1 0 5 7 10 3 -3
21 Sheffield Wed. 6 0 3 3 4 9 3 -5
22 Swindon Town 6 0 1 5 3 17 1 -14
|
13.436 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon Sep 13 1993 13:57 | 39 |
| Sat 11th Sep
Arsenal 4 - 0 Ipswich Town
Aston Villa 0 - 0 Coventry City
Chelsea 1 - 0 Man. Utd.
Man. City 3 - 0 Q.P.R.
Norwich City 0 - 1 Wimbledon
Oldham Athletic 0 - 1 Everton
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton 0 - 2 Leeds Utd. At Last!!!! :-)
West Ham Utd. 0 - 0 Swindon Town
Sun 12th
Liverpool 0 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 7 5 1 1 14 4 16 10
2 Arsenal 7 5 1 1 11 5 16 6
3 Blackburn Rovers 7 4 2 1 10 6 14 4
4 Coventry City 7 3 4 0 11 6 13 5
5 Liverpool 7 4 0 3 13 5 12 8
6 Aston Villa 7 3 3 1 9 5 12 4
7 Wimbledon 7 3 3 1 9 6 12 3
8 Everton 7 4 0 3 8 6 12 2
9 Norwich City 7 3 2 2 11 8 11 3
10 Tottenham Hotspur 7 3 2 2 7 6 11 1
11 Ipswich Town 7 3 2 2 7 7 11 0
12 Leeds Utd. 7 3 1 3 6 9 10 -3
13 Chelsea 7 2 3 2 7 6 9 1
14 Q.P.R. 7 3 0 4 10 14 9 -4
15 Man. City 7 2 2 3 8 7 8 1
16 Sheffield Utd. 7 2 2 3 11 14 8 -3
17 Newcastle Utd. 6 1 3 2 5 6 6 -1
18 Oldham Athletic 7 1 2 4 5 10 5 -5
19 West Ham Utd. 7 1 2 4 3 11 5 -8
20 Southampton 7 1 0 6 7 12 3 -5
21 Sheffield Wed. 6 0 3 3 4 9 3 -5
22 Swindon Town 7 0 2 5 3 17 2 -14
|
13.437 | | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Tue Sep 14 1993 16:57 | 3 |
| Come on, Al - where's last night's result?!!
grahame
|
13.438 | re -.1 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Tue Sep 14 1993 17:06 | 36 |
| Some small team from
the back of beyond where
people speak with funny accents 4 A great team having a bad start 2
:-) :-)
or
Newcastle Utd. 4 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 7 5 1 1 14 4 16 10
2 Arsenal 7 5 1 1 11 5 16 6
3 Blackburn Rovers 7 4 2 1 10 6 14 4
4 Coventry City 7 3 4 0 11 6 13 5
5 Liverpool 7 4 0 3 13 5 12 8
6 Aston Villa 7 3 3 1 9 5 12 4
7 Wimbledon 7 3 3 1 9 6 12 3
8 Everton 7 4 0 3 8 6 12 2
9 Norwich City 7 3 2 2 11 8 11 3
10 Tottenham Hotspur 7 3 2 2 7 6 11 1
11 Ipswich Town 7 3 2 2 7 7 11 0
12 Leeds Utd. 7 3 1 3 6 9 10 -3
13 Newcastle Utd. 7 2 3 2 9 8 9 1
14 Chelsea 7 2 3 2 7 6 9 1
15 Q.P.R. 7 3 0 4 10 14 9 -4
16 Man. City 7 2 2 3 8 7 8 1
17 Sheffield Utd. 7 2 2 3 11 14 8 -3
18 Oldham Athletic 7 1 2 4 5 10 5 -5
19 West Ham Utd. 7 1 2 4 3 11 5 -8
20 Southampton 7 1 0 6 7 12 3 -5
21 Sheffield Wed. 7 0 3 4 6 13 3 -7
22 Swindon Town 7 0 2 5 3 17 2 -14
|
13.439 | Wednesday in trouble? | YUPPY::PATEMAN | I'm a Mean Green Mutha from Outa Space | Tue Sep 14 1993 17:46 | 5 |
| At the risk of being shouted down, Wednesday's start looks very similar
to Palace's last year, draws and defeats. Maybe its something to do
with having Mark "get on-side" Bright?
Paul
|
13.440 | | ECCGY4::HAIGH | If voting ever solved anything, they'd ban it. | Thu Sep 16 1993 13:43 | 12 |
|
I think Wednesday will sort it out. They are to good to be down
there. It was a cracking game on Monday, superb stuff, Wednesdays
second was brilliant Waddle skinning the defender and hitting the
perfect cross, even I could have scored from there. (Well maybe!)
Wednesday should have secured it after that though.
Newcastle played very well and just deserved their win. Their crowd
will be worth about 10 points this year.
Steve
|
13.441 | | NEWOA::GUTHRIE_J | Panic Sleeper | Thu Sep 16 1993 16:42 | 6 |
| Nobody is "to good to be down there",just look at Forest last season
everyone kept saying there to good to go down and look at them now.
Although I must admit Wednesday's start has surprised me.
Jason
|
13.442 | never too good to go down | MACNAS::MJGREANEY | I WAKE-UP SLEEPING | Fri Sep 17 1993 15:35 | 9 |
| re:-1,-2
and Forest can only manage a mid table position at present "in the
jungle"
Wednesday....watch out!!!!!!!!!!
M.J.
|
13.443 | Round 8 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon Sep 20 1993 14:18 | 48 |
| Sat 18th
Blackburn Rovers 0 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Coventry City 1 - 1 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 0 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Leeds Utd. 2 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Q.P.R. 2 - 2 Norwich City
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 0 Southampton
Swindon Town 2 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Tottenham Hotspur 5 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Sun 19th
Man. Utd. 1 - 0 Arsenal
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 8 6 1 1 15 4 19 11
2 Arsenal 8 5 1 2 11 6 16 5
3 Aston Villa 8 4 3 1 11 6 15 5
4 Everton 8 5 0 3 10 6 15 4
5 Tottenham Hotspur 8 4 2 2 12 6 14 6
6 Coventry City 8 3 5 0 12 7 14 5
7 Blackburn Rovers 8 4 2 2 10 8 14 2
8 Leeds Utd. 8 4 1 3 8 10 13 -2
9 Liverpool 8 4 0 4 13 7 12 6
10 Norwich City 8 3 3 2 13 10 12 3
11 Wimbledon 7 3 3 1 9 6 12 3
12 Ipswich Town 8 3 2 3 8 9 11 -1
13 Newcastle Utd. 8 2 4 2 11 10 10 1
14 Chelsea 8 2 4 2 8 7 10 1
15 Q.P.R. 8 3 1 4 12 16 10 -4
16 Man. City 7 2 2 3 8 7 8 1
17 Sheffield Utd. 8 2 2 4 12 16 8 -4
18 West Ham Utd. 8 2 2 4 5 11 8 -6
19 Sheffield Wed. 8 1 3 4 8 13 6 -5
20 Oldham Athletic 8 1 2 5 5 15 5 -10
21 Southampton 8 1 0 7 7 14 3 -7
22 Swindon Town 8 0 3 5 5 19 3 -14
This evening, what has to be the game of the season so far :-)
Wimbledon v Manchester City !!!
Al
|
13.444 | Round 9 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon Sep 27 1993 12:18 | 45 |
| Sat 25th
Arsenal 1 - 0 Southampton
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Chelsea 1 - 0 Liverpool
Coventry City 0 - 2 Leeds Utd.
Everton 1 - 5 Norwich City
Man. Utd. 4 - 2 Swindon Town
Newcastle Utd. 2 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Oldham Athletic 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Sheffield Utd. 0 - 1 Man. City
Sun 26th
Ipswich Town 2 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 9 7 1 1 19 6 22 13
2 Arsenal 9 6 1 2 12 6 19 6
3 Aston Villa 9 4 4 1 12 7 16 5
4 Leeds Utd. 9 5 1 3 10 10 16 0
5 Norwich City 9 4 3 2 18 11 15 7
6 Tottenham Hotspur 9 4 3 2 14 8 15 6
7 Wimbledon 8 4 3 1 10 6 15 4
8 Blackburn Rovers 9 4 3 2 11 9 15 2
9 Everton 9 5 0 4 11 11 15 0
10 Coventry City 9 3 5 1 12 9 14 3
11 Newcastle Utd. 9 3 4 2 13 10 13 3
12 Chelsea 9 3 4 2 9 7 13 2
13 Liverpool 9 4 0 5 13 8 12 5
14 Ipswich Town 9 3 3 3 10 11 12 -1
15 Man. City 9 3 2 4 9 8 11 1
16 Q.P.R. 8 3 1 4 12 16 10 -4
17 Sheffield Utd. 9 2 2 5 12 17 8 -5
18 West Ham Utd. 9 2 2 5 5 13 8 -8
19 Sheffield Wed. 9 1 4 4 9 14 7 -5
20 Oldham Athletic 9 1 3 5 6 16 6 -10
21 Southampton 9 1 0 8 7 15 3 -8
22 Swindon Town 9 0 3 6 7 23 3 -16
Tonight
Wimbledon v Q.P.R.
|
13.445 | Round 10 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Mon Oct 04 1993 13:45 | 50 |
| Monday 27th September
Wimbledon 1 - 1 Q.P.R.
Saturday 2nd October
Aston Villa 0 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Leeds Utd. 4 - 0 Wimbledon
Liverpool 0 - 0 Arsenal
Norwich City 1 - 0 Coventry City
Q.P.R. 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 3 Man. Utd.
Southampton 3 - 3 Sheffield Utd.
Swindon Town 1 - 3 Blackburn Rovers
West Ham Utd. 1 - 0 Chelsea
Sunday 3rd October
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 2 Everton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 10 8 1 1 22 8 25 14
2 Arsenal 10 6 2 2 12 6 20 6
3 Leeds Utd. 10 6 1 3 14 10 19 4
4 Norwich City 10 5 3 2 19 11 18 8
5 Tottenham Hotspur 10 5 3 2 17 10 18 7
6 Blackburn Rovers 10 5 3 2 14 10 18 4
7 Newcastle Utd. 10 4 4 2 15 10 16 5
8 Aston Villa 10 4 4 2 12 9 16 3
9 Wimbledon 10 4 4 2 11 11 16 0
10 Everton 10 5 0 5 13 14 15 -1
11 Coventry City 10 3 5 2 12 10 14 2
12 Q.P.R. 10 4 2 4 16 17 14 -1
13 Liverpool 10 4 1 5 13 8 13 5
14 Chelsea 10 3 4 3 9 8 13 1
15 Ipswich Town 10 3 3 4 10 14 12 -4
16 Man. City 9 3 2 4 9 8 11 1
17 West Ham Utd. 10 3 2 5 6 13 11 -7
18 Sheffield Utd. 10 2 3 5 15 20 9 -5
19 Sheffield Wed. 10 1 4 5 11 17 7 -6
20 Oldham Athletic 9 1 3 5 6 16 6 -10
21 Southampton 10 1 1 8 10 18 4 -8
22 Swindon Town 10 0 3 7 8 26 3 -18
Tonight
Manchester City v Oldham Athletic
|
13.446 | Round 11 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Can't think of a decent personal name | Mon Oct 18 1993 18:57 | 44 |
| Sat 16th
Arsenal 0 - 0 Man. City
Chelsea 1 - 2 Norwich City
Coventry City 1 - 1 Southampton
Liverpool 2 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Man. Utd. 2 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 2 Q.P.R.
Sheffield Wed. 2 - 2 Wimbledon
Swindon Town 1 - 1 Everton
West Ham Utd. 0 - 0 Aston Villa
Sun 17th
Ipswich Town 0 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 11 9 1 1 24 9 28 15
2 Norwich City 11 6 3 2 21 12 21 9
3 Arsenal 11 6 3 2 12 6 21 6
4 Leeds Utd. 11 6 2 3 14 10 20 4
5 Tottenham Hotspur 11 5 3 3 18 12 18 6
6 Blackburn Rovers 10 5 3 2 14 10 18 4
7 Aston Villa 11 4 5 2 12 9 17 3
8 Q.P.R. 11 5 2 4 18 18 17 0
9 Wimbledon 11 4 5 2 13 13 17 0
10 Liverpool 11 5 1 5 15 9 16 6
11 Newcastle Utd. 11 4 4 3 16 12 16 4
12 Everton 11 5 1 5 14 15 16 -1
13 Coventry City 11 3 6 2 13 11 15 2
14 Man. City 11 3 4 4 10 9 13 1
15 Chelsea 11 3 4 4 10 10 13 0
16 Ipswich Town 11 3 4 4 10 14 13 -4
17 West Ham Utd. 11 3 3 5 6 13 12 -7
18 Sheffield Utd. 10 2 3 5 15 20 9 -5
19 Sheffield Wed. 11 1 5 5 13 19 8 -6
20 Oldham Athletic 11 1 4 6 8 19 7 -11
21 Southampton 11 1 2 8 11 19 5 -8
22 Swindon Town 11 0 4 7 9 27 4 -18
This evening
Blackburn v Sheffield Utd.
|
13.447 | Blackburn leapfrog Spurs | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Can't think of a decent personal name | Tue Oct 19 1993 13:16 | 3 |
| Last night's result
Blackburn 0 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
|
13.448 | Round 12 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Wed Oct 27 1993 16:52 | 45 |
| Sat 23rd
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Chelsea
Everton 0 - 1 Man. Utd.
Leeds Utd. 3 - 3 Blackburn Rovers
Man. City 1 - 1 Liverpool
Norwich City 0 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Oldham Athletic 0 - 0 Arsenal
Q.P.R. 5 - 1 Coventry City
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Swindon Town
Sunday 24th
Southampton 2 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Monday 25th
Wimbledon 0 - 2 Ipswich Town
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 12 10 1 1 25 9 31 16
2 Norwich City 12 6 4 2 21 12 22 9
3 Arsenal 12 6 4 2 12 6 22 6
4 Leeds Utd. 12 6 3 3 17 13 21 4
5 Q.P.R. 12 6 2 4 23 19 20 4
6 Blackburn Rovers 12 5 5 2 17 13 20 4
7 Aston Villa 12 5 5 2 13 9 20 4
8 Tottenham Hotspur 12 5 4 3 19 13 19 6
9 Liverpool 12 5 2 5 16 10 17 6
10 Wimbledon 12 4 5 3 13 15 17 -2
11 Newcastle Utd. 12 4 4 4 17 14 16 3
12 Everton 12 5 1 6 14 16 16 -2
13 Ipswich Town 12 4 4 4 12 14 16 -2
14 Coventry City 12 3 6 3 14 16 15 -2
15 Man. City 12 3 5 4 11 10 14 1
16 Chelsea 12 3 4 5 10 11 13 -1
17 West Ham Utd. 12 3 4 5 6 13 13 -7
18 Sheffield Utd. 12 2 5 5 16 21 11 -5
19 Sheffield Wed. 12 1 6 5 14 20 9 -6
20 Southampton 12 2 2 8 13 20 8 -7
21 Oldham Athletic 12 1 5 6 8 19 8 -11
22 Swindon Town 12 0 5 7 10 28 5 -18
|
13.449 | Round 13 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Mon Nov 01 1993 16:16 | 41 |
| Sat 30th Oct
Arsenal 0 - 0 Norwich City
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 0 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 Everton
Liverpool 4 - 2 Southampton
Man. Utd. 2 - 1 Q.P.R.
Newcastle Utd. 4 - 0 Wimbledon
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 3 Leeds Utd.
Swindon Town 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Sun 31st Oct
Coventry City 0 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 13 11 1 1 27 10 34 17
2 Norwich City 13 6 5 2 21 12 23 9
3 Arsenal 13 6 5 2 12 6 23 6
4 Blackburn Rovers 13 6 5 2 18 13 23 5
5 Aston Villa 13 6 5 2 15 10 23 5
6 Leeds Utd. 13 6 4 3 20 16 22 4
7 Liverpool 13 6 2 5 20 12 20 8
8 Q.P.R. 13 6 2 5 24 21 20 3
9 Newcastle Utd. 13 5 4 4 21 14 19 7
10 Tottenham Hotspur 13 5 4 4 19 14 19 5
11 Everton 13 6 1 6 16 16 19 0
12 Wimbledon 13 4 5 4 13 19 17 -6
13 Coventry City 13 3 7 3 14 16 16 -2
14 Ipswich Town 13 4 4 5 12 16 16 -4
15 Man. City 12 3 5 4 11 10 14 1
16 Chelsea 13 3 4 6 10 12 13 -2
17 West Ham Utd. 12 3 4 5 6 13 13 -7
18 Sheffield Utd. 13 2 6 5 16 21 12 -5
19 Oldham Athletic 13 2 5 6 9 19 11 -10
20 Sheffield Wed. 13 1 7 5 17 23 10 -6
21 Southampton 13 2 2 9 15 24 8 -9
22 Swindon Town 13 0 5 8 11 30 5 -19
1
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13.450 | Who holds the record? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Tue Nov 02 1993 01:59 | 9 |
| Seems the most relevant place to ask - apologied if I missed the answer
elsewhere.
What's the record in the 1st Divison or Premier Thingy for consecutive
games without a victory (Swindon now have 13)
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.451 | Round 14 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Fri Nov 12 1993 16:11 | 45 |
| Sat 6th
Arsenal 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Coventry City 2 - 1 Everton
Ipswich Town 1 - 4 Sheffield Wed.
Leeds Utd. 4 - 1 Chelsea
Liverpool 2 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Q.P.R. 1 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 2 Norwich City
Southampton 1 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Wimbledon 3 - 0 Swindon Town
Sun 7th
Man. City 2 - 3 Man. Utd.
Mon 8th
Oldham Athletic 1 - 3 Newcastle Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 14 12 1 1 30 12 37 18
2 Norwich City 14 7 5 2 23 13 26 10
3 Aston Villa 14 7 5 2 17 11 26 6
4 Leeds Utd. 14 7 4 3 24 17 25 7
5 Liverpool 14 7 2 5 22 12 23 10
6 Arsenal 14 6 5 3 13 8 23 5
7 Q.P.R. 14 7 2 5 25 21 23 4
8 Blackburn Rovers 14 6 5 3 18 14 23 4
9 Newcastle Utd. 14 6 4 4 24 15 22 9
10 Wimbledon 14 5 5 4 16 19 20 -3
11 Tottenham Hotspur 14 5 4 5 19 15 19 4
12 Everton 14 6 1 7 17 18 19 -1
13 Coventry City 14 4 7 3 16 17 19 -1
14 Ipswich Town 14 4 4 6 13 20 16 -7
15 West Ham Utd. 14 4 4 6 9 16 16 -7
16 Man. City 14 3 5 6 14 16 14 -2
17 Sheffield Wed. 14 2 7 5 21 24 13 -3
18 Chelsea 14 3 4 7 11 16 13 -5
19 Sheffield Utd. 14 2 6 6 17 23 12 -6
20 Southampton 14 3 2 9 16 24 11 -8
21 Oldham Athletic 14 2 5 7 10 22 11 -12
22 Swindon Town 14 0 5 9 11 33 5 -22
|
13.452 | Round 15 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Mon Nov 22 1993 13:23 | 66 |
| Sat 20th
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 0 Southampton
Chelsea 0 - 2 Arsenal
Everton 0 - 3 Q.P.R.
Man. Utd. 3 - 1 Wimbledon
Norwich City 1 - 1 Man. City
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 0 Coventry City
Swindon Town 2 - 2 Ipswich Town
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
West Ham Utd. 2 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Sun 21st
Newcastle Utd. 3 - 0 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 15 13 1 1 33 13 40 20
2 Aston Villa 15 8 5 2 18 11 29 7
3 Norwich City 15 7 6 2 24 14 27 10
4 Q.P.R. 15 8 2 5 28 21 26 7
5 Leeds Utd. 15 7 5 3 25 18 26 7
6 Arsenal 15 7 5 3 15 8 26 7
7 Blackburn Rovers 15 7 5 3 20 14 26 6
8 Newcastle Utd. 15 7 4 4 27 15 25 12
9 Liverpool 15 7 2 6 22 15 23 7
10 Tottenham Hotspur 15 5 5 5 20 16 20 4
11 Coventry City 15 4 8 3 16 17 20 -1
12 Wimbledon 15 5 5 5 17 22 20 -5
13 Everton 15 6 1 8 17 21 19 -4
14 West Ham Utd. 15 5 4 6 11 16 19 -5
15 Ipswich Town 15 4 5 6 15 22 17 -7
16 Man. City 15 3 6 6 15 17 15 -2
17 Sheffield Wed. 15 2 8 5 21 24 14 -3
18 Chelsea 15 3 4 8 11 18 13 -7
19 Sheffield Utd. 15 2 6 7 17 24 12 -7
20 Southampton 15 3 2 10 16 26 11 -10
21 Oldham Athletic 15 2 5 8 10 24 11 -14
22 Swindon Town 15 0 6 9 13 35 6 -22
Mid week fixtures:
Tonight
Chelsea v Man. City
Tuesday
Blackburn Rovers v Coventry
Everton v Leeds Utd
Wednesday
Aston Villa v Southampton
Man. Utd v Ipswich Town
Newcastle Utd v Sheffield Utd
Sheffield Wed. v Oldham Athletic
Swindon Town v Q.P.R.
Tottenham v Wimbledon
West Ham Utd v Arsenal
All saturday's home teams are at home again during the week!!!
|
13.453 | Football on Mondays | PLAYER::LESOIL | | Mon Nov 22 1993 23:22 | 5 |
|
Chelsea v Man. City lives on Eurosport (not the English Eurosport
of course), like all English Monday matches.
Ph./
|
13.454 | Round 16 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Thu Nov 25 1993 12:57 | 46 |
| Midweek games:
Monday
Chelsea 0 - 0 Man. City
Tuesday
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 1 Coventry City
Everton 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Wednesday
Aston Villa 0 - 2 Southampton
Man. Utd. 0 - 0 Ipswich Town
Newcastle Utd. 4 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Swindon Town 1 - 0 Q.P.R.
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Wimbledon
West Ham Utd. 0 - 0 Arsenal
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 16 13 2 1 33 13 41 20
2 Blackburn Rovers 16 8 5 3 22 15 29 7
3 Aston Villa 16 8 5 3 18 13 29 5
4 Newcastle Utd. 16 8 4 4 31 15 28 16
5 Norwich City 15 7 6 2 24 14 27 10
6 Leeds Utd. 16 7 6 3 26 19 27 7
7 Arsenal 16 7 6 3 15 8 27 7
8 Q.P.R. 16 8 2 6 28 22 26 6
9 Liverpool 15 7 2 6 22 15 23 7
10 Tottenham Hotspur 16 5 6 5 21 17 21 4
11 Wimbledon 16 5 6 5 18 23 21 -5
12 Coventry City 16 4 8 4 17 19 20 -2
13 Everton 16 6 2 8 18 22 20 -4
14 West Ham Utd. 16 5 5 6 11 16 20 -5
15 Ipswich Town 16 4 6 6 15 22 18 -7
16 Sheffield Wed. 16 3 8 5 24 24 17 0
17 Man. City 16 3 7 6 15 17 16 -2
18 Chelsea 16 3 5 8 11 18 14 -7
19 Southampton 16 4 2 10 18 26 14 -8
20 Sheffield Utd. 16 2 6 8 17 28 12 -11
21 Oldham Athletic 16 2 5 9 10 27 11 -17
22 Swindon Town 16 1 6 9 14 35 9 -21
|
13.455 | Round 17 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Wed Dec 01 1993 19:41 | 45 |
| Sat 27th
Arsenal 2 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Coventry City 0 - 1 Man. Utd.
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Leeds Utd. 3 - 0 Swindon Town
Man. City 1 - 3 Sheffield Wed.
Oldham Athletic 2 - 1 Norwich City
Q.P.R. 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 0 Chelsea
Wimbledon 1 - 1 Everton
Sun 28th
Liverpool 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Mon 29th
Southampton 0 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 17 14 2 1 34 13 44 21
2 Leeds Utd. 17 8 6 3 29 19 30 10
3 Arsenal 17 8 6 3 17 9 30 8
4 Blackburn Rovers 17 8 5 4 22 16 29 6
5 Aston Villa 17 8 5 4 19 15 29 4
6 Newcastle Utd. 17 8 4 5 32 17 28 15
7 Norwich City 16 7 6 3 25 16 27 9
8 Q.P.R. 17 8 3 6 29 23 27 6
9 Liverpool 16 8 2 6 24 16 26 8
10 West Ham Utd. 17 6 5 6 13 16 23 -3
11 Tottenham Hotspur 17 5 7 5 22 18 22 4
12 Wimbledon 17 5 7 5 19 24 22 -5
13 Everton 17 6 3 8 19 23 21 -4
14 Ipswich Town 17 5 6 6 16 22 21 -6
15 Sheffield Wed. 17 4 8 5 27 25 20 2
16 Coventry City 17 4 8 5 17 20 20 -3
17 Man. City 17 3 7 7 16 20 16 -4
18 Sheffield Utd. 17 3 6 8 18 28 15 -10
19 Chelsea 17 3 5 9 11 19 14 -8
20 Southampton 17 4 2 11 18 28 14 -10
21 Oldham Athletic 17 3 5 9 12 28 14 -16
22 Swindon Town 17 1 6 10 14 38 9 -24
|
13.456 | Round 18 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Mon Dec 06 1993 14:43 | 42 |
| Sat 4th Dec
Coventry City 1 - 0 Arsenal
Everton 1 - 0 Southampton
Ipswich Town 0 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Leeds Utd. 3 - 2 Man. City
Man. Utd. 2 - 2 Norwich City
Q.P.R. 2 - 2 Aston Villa
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 1 Liverpool
Swindon Town 0 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Wimbledon 1 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Sun 5th Dec
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 0 Chelsea
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 18 14 3 1 36 15 45 21
2 Leeds Utd. 18 9 6 3 32 21 33 11
3 Blackburn Rovers 18 9 5 4 24 16 32 8
4 Newcastle Utd. 18 9 4 5 34 18 31 16
5 Arsenal 18 8 6 4 17 10 30 7
6 Aston Villa 18 8 6 4 21 17 30 4
7 Norwich City 17 7 7 3 27 18 28 9
8 Q.P.R. 18 8 4 6 31 25 28 6
9 Liverpool 17 8 2 7 25 19 26 6
10 West Ham Utd. 18 7 5 6 15 17 26 -2
11 Everton 18 7 3 8 20 23 24 -3
12 Sheffield Wed. 18 5 8 5 30 26 23 4
13 Coventry City 18 5 8 5 18 20 23 -2
14 Tottenham Hotspur 18 5 7 6 23 20 22 3
15 Wimbledon 18 5 7 6 20 26 22 -6
16 Ipswich Town 18 5 7 6 16 22 22 -6
17 Man. City 18 3 7 8 18 23 16 -5
18 Sheffield Utd. 18 3 7 8 18 28 16 -10
19 Oldham Athletic 18 3 6 9 12 28 15 -16
20 Chelsea 18 3 5 10 11 21 14 -10
21 Southampton 18 4 2 12 18 29 14 -11
22 Swindon Town 18 1 7 10 14 38 10 -24
|
13.457 | | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | It's your loss digital | Thu Dec 09 1993 00:40 | 18 |
|
Results...
Man City 1-0 Everton Att 20,000ish
Griffiths
Liverpool 3-2 Q.P.R. Att 24,000ish
Barnes, Ferdinand
Rush, Barker
Molby (pen)
Ferdinand & Barker both sent off
Southampton 0-1 Ipswich
Kiwomya
|
13.458 | | FAILTE::PAGES | Lost in Scotland | Thu Dec 09 1993 15:29 | 6 |
|
more
West Ham 0-1 Leeds United
Wallace
SteveP
|
13.459 | Round 20 | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Mon Dec 13 1993 12:56 | 41 |
| Aston Villa 0 - 1 Wimbledon
Chelsea 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2 - 2 Swindon Town
Man. City 0 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 1 Man. Utd.
Oldham Athletic 1 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Sheffield Utd. 0 - 0 Everton
Southampton 0 - 1 Q.P.R.
West Ham Utd. 3 - 2 Coventry City
Arsenal 1 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 20 15 4 1 40 16 49 24
2 Leeds Utd. 19 10 6 3 33 21 36 12
3 Blackburn Rovers 19 10 5 4 26 17 35 9
4 Arsenal 20 9 7 4 19 11 34 8
5 Newcastle Utd. 19 9 5 5 35 19 32 16
6 Q.P.R. 20 9 4 7 34 28 31 6
7 Aston Villa 20 8 7 5 23 20 31 3
8 Liverpool 19 9 3 7 30 23 30 7
9 West Ham Utd. 20 8 5 7 18 20 29 -2
10 Norwich City 17 7 7 3 27 18 28 9
11 Tottenham Hotspur 20 6 8 6 26 21 26 5
12 Ipswich Town 20 6 8 6 18 23 26 -5
13 Everton 20 7 4 9 20 24 25 -4
14 Wimbledon 19 6 7 6 21 26 25 -5
15 Sheffield Wed. 20 5 9 6 32 29 24 3
16 Coventry City 19 5 8 6 20 23 23 -3
17 Man. City 20 4 7 9 19 25 19 -6
18 Oldham Athletic 20 4 6 10 15 31 18 -16
19 Sheffield Utd. 20 3 8 9 18 31 17 -13
20 Chelsea 19 3 6 10 12 22 15 -10
21 Southampton 20 4 2 14 18 31 14 -13
22 Swindon Town 20 1 8 11 17 42 11 -25
Tonight
Norwich City v Leeds Utd
|
13.460 | Last night | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Tue Dec 14 1993 12:41 | 15 |
| Norwich City 2 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 20 15 4 1 40 16 49 24
2 Leeds Utd. 20 10 6 4 34 23 36 11
3 Blackburn Rovers 19 10 5 4 26 17 35 9
4 Arsenal 20 9 7 4 19 11 34 8
5 Newcastle Utd. 19 9 5 5 35 19 32 16
6 Norwich City 18 8 7 3 29 19 31 10
7 Q.P.R. 20 9 4 7 34 28 31 6
8 Aston Villa 20 8 7 5 23 20 31 3
9 Liverpool 19 9 3 7 30 23 30 7
10 West Ham Utd. 20 8 5 7 18 20 29 -2
|
13.461 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Mon Dec 20 1993 13:59 | 41 |
| Sat 18th
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 0 Man. City
Coventry City 1 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Everton 0 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Ipswich Town 2 - 1 Norwich City
Leeds Utd. 2 - 1 Arsenal
Sheffield Wed. 5 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Swindon Town 2 - 1 Southampton
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 3 Liverpool
Wimbledon 2 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Sun 19th
Man. Utd. 3 - 1 Aston Villa
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 21 16 4 1 43 17 52 26
2 Leeds Utd. 21 11 6 4 36 24 39 12
3 Blackburn Rovers 20 11 5 4 28 17 38 11
4 Newcastle Utd. 20 10 5 5 37 19 35 18
5 Arsenal 21 9 7 5 20 13 34 7
6 Norwich City 19 8 7 4 30 21 31 9
7 Liverpool 20 9 4 7 33 26 31 7
8 Q.P.R. 20 9 4 7 34 28 31 6
9 Aston Villa 21 8 7 6 24 23 31 1
10 Ipswich Town 21 7 8 6 20 24 29 -4
11 West Ham Utd. 21 8 5 8 18 25 29 -7
12 Wimbledon 20 7 7 6 23 26 28 -3
13 Sheffield Wed. 21 6 9 6 37 29 27 8
14 Tottenham Hotspur 21 6 9 6 29 24 27 5
15 Everton 21 7 4 10 20 26 25 -6
16 Coventry City 20 5 9 6 21 24 24 -3
17 Man. City 21 4 7 10 19 27 19 -8
18 Oldham Athletic 21 4 7 10 16 32 19 -16
19 Sheffield Utd. 21 3 8 10 18 33 17 -15
20 Chelsea 19 3 6 10 12 22 15 -10
21 Southampton 21 4 2 15 19 33 14 -14
22 Swindon Town 21 2 8 11 19 43 14 -24
|
13.462 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Tue Jan 04 1994 15:59 | 44 |
| Wed 22nd Dec 1993
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Sun 26th Dec
Man. Utd. 1 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Sheffield Utd. 0 - 0 Liverpool
Wimbledon 3 - 1 Coventry City
Mon 27th Dec
Everton 0 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Q.P.R. 2 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Southampton 3 - 1 Chelsea
Swindon Town 0 - 4 Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 3 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 22 16 5 1 44 18 53 26
2 Leeds Utd. 22 11 7 4 37 25 40 12
3 Blackburn Rovers 21 11 6 4 29 18 39 11
4 Arsenal 22 10 7 5 24 13 37 11
5 Newcastle Utd. 21 10 6 5 38 20 36 18
6 Norwich City 20 9 7 4 33 22 34 11
7 Q.P.R. 21 10 4 7 36 28 34 8
8 Liverpool 21 9 5 7 33 26 32 7
9 Aston Villa 21 8 7 6 24 23 31 1
10 Wimbledon 21 8 7 6 26 27 31 -1
11 Sheffield Wed. 22 7 9 6 39 29 30 10
12 Ipswich Town 22 7 9 6 21 25 30 -4
13 West Ham Utd. 22 8 6 8 19 26 30 -7
14 Tottenham Hotspur 22 6 9 7 30 27 27 3
15 Everton 22 7 4 11 20 28 25 -8
16 Coventry City 21 5 9 7 22 27 24 -5
17 Man. City 21 4 7 10 19 27 19 -8
18 Oldham Athletic 22 4 7 11 16 34 19 -18
19 Sheffield Utd. 22 3 9 10 18 33 18 -15
20 Southampton 22 5 2 15 22 34 17 -12
21 Chelsea 20 3 6 11 13 25 15 -12
22 Swindon Town 22 2 8 12 19 47 14 -28
|
13.463 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Tue Jan 04 1994 16:00 | 41 |
| Tues 28th Dec 1993
Chelsea 1 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Liverpool 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Man. City 1 - 1 Southampton
West Ham Utd. 1 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur
Wed 29th Dec
Arsenal 3 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 0 Everton
Leeds Utd. 1 - 1 Q.P.R.
Norwich City 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Oldham Athletic 2 - 5 Man. Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 3 Swindon Town
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 23 17 5 1 49 20 56 29
2 Blackburn Rovers 22 12 6 4 31 18 42 13
3 Leeds Utd. 23 11 8 4 38 26 41 12
4 Arsenal 23 11 7 5 27 13 40 14
5 Newcastle Utd. 22 10 6 6 38 21 36 17
6 Q.P.R. 22 10 5 7 37 29 35 8
7 Norwich City 21 9 7 5 34 24 34 10
8 Aston Villa 22 9 7 6 26 24 34 2
9 Liverpool 22 9 6 7 34 27 33 7
10 Wimbledon 22 8 8 6 27 28 32 -1
11 Sheffield Wed. 23 7 10 6 42 32 31 10
12 Tottenham Hotspur 23 7 9 7 33 28 30 5
13 Ipswich Town 22 7 9 6 21 25 30 -4
14 West Ham Utd. 23 8 6 9 20 29 30 -9
15 Everton 23 7 4 12 20 30 25 -10
16 Coventry City 21 5 9 7 22 27 24 -5
17 Man. City 22 4 8 10 20 28 20 -8
18 Oldham Athletic 23 4 7 12 18 39 19 -21
19 Chelsea 21 4 6 11 14 25 18 -11
20 Southampton 23 5 3 15 23 35 18 -12
21 Sheffield Utd. 23 3 9 11 18 36 18 -18
22 Swindon Town 23 2 9 12 22 50 15 -28
|
13.464 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Tue Jan 04 1994 16:01 | 39 |
| Sat 1st Jan 1994
Aston Villa 0 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Everton 0 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Liverpool
Man. Utd. 0 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Newcastle Utd. 2 - 0 Man. City
Q.P.R. 1 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Southampton 0 - 1 Norwich City
Swindon Town 1 - 3 Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 2 Coventry City
Wimbledon 0 - 3 Arsenal
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 24 17 6 1 49 20 57 29
2 Blackburn Rovers 23 13 6 4 32 18 45 14
3 Arsenal 24 12 7 5 30 13 43 17
4 Leeds Utd. 24 11 9 4 38 26 42 12
5 Newcastle Utd. 23 11 6 6 40 21 39 19
6 Norwich City 22 10 7 5 35 24 37 11
7 Liverpool 23 10 6 7 36 28 36 8
8 Q.P.R. 23 10 5 8 38 31 35 7
9 Sheffield Wed. 24 8 10 6 44 33 34 11
10 Aston Villa 23 9 7 7 26 25 34 1
11 West Ham Utd. 24 9 6 9 21 29 33 -8
12 Wimbledon 23 8 8 7 27 31 32 -4
13 Tottenham Hotspur 24 7 9 8 34 30 30 4
14 Ipswich Town 23 7 9 7 22 27 30 -5
15 Coventry City 22 6 9 7 24 28 27 -4
16 Everton 24 7 4 13 20 31 25 -11
17 Chelsea 22 5 6 11 17 26 21 -9
18 Sheffield Utd. 24 4 9 11 20 37 21 -17
19 Man. City 23 4 8 11 20 30 20 -10
20 Oldham Athletic 24 4 7 13 19 41 19 -22
21 Southampton 24 5 3 16 23 36 18 -13
22 Swindon Town 24 2 9 13 23 53 15 -30
|
13.465 | Up to date | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Tue Jan 04 1994 16:03 | 40 |
| Mon 3rd Jan 1994
Arsenal 0 - 0 Q.P.R.
Chelsea 4 - 2 Everton
Coventry City 1 - 1 Swindon Town
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
West Ham Utd. 0 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 24 17 6 1 49 20 57 29
2 Blackburn Rovers 23 13 6 4 32 18 45 14
3 Arsenal 25 12 8 5 30 13 44 17
4 Leeds Utd. 24 11 9 4 38 26 42 12
5 Newcastle Utd. 23 11 6 6 40 21 39 19
6 Sheffield Wed. 25 9 10 6 45 33 37 12
7 Norwich City 22 10 7 5 35 24 37 11
8 Liverpool 23 10 6 7 36 28 36 8
9 Q.P.R. 24 10 6 8 38 31 36 7
10 Aston Villa 23 9 7 7 26 25 34 1
11 West Ham Utd. 25 9 7 9 21 29 34 -8
12 Wimbledon 23 8 8 7 27 31 32 -4
13 Tottenham Hotspur 25 7 9 9 34 31 30 3
14 Ipswich Town 23 7 9 7 22 27 30 -5
15 Coventry City 23 6 10 7 25 29 28 -4
16 Everton 25 7 4 14 22 35 25 -13
17 Chelsea 23 6 6 11 21 28 24 -7
18 Sheffield Utd. 25 4 10 11 20 37 22 -17
19 Man. City 23 4 8 11 20 30 20 -10
20 Oldham Athletic 24 4 7 13 19 41 19 -22
21 Southampton 24 5 3 16 23 36 18 -13
22 Swindon Town 25 2 10 13 24 54 16 -30
Tonight
Liverpool v Man Utd
Norwich v Newcastle
Oldham v Southampton
|
13.466 | Round 25 ( Completed ) | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Wed Jan 05 1994 14:43 | 29 |
| Liverpool 3 - 3 Man. Utd.
Norwich City 1 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 25 17 7 1 52 23 58 29
2 Blackburn Rovers 23 13 6 4 32 18 45 14
3 Arsenal 25 12 8 5 30 13 44 17
4 Newcastle Utd. 24 12 6 6 42 22 42 20
5 Leeds Utd. 24 11 9 4 38 26 42 12
6 Sheffield Wed. 25 9 10 6 45 33 37 12
7 Norwich City 23 10 7 6 36 26 37 10
8 Liverpool 24 10 7 7 39 31 37 8
9 Q.P.R. 24 10 6 8 38 31 36 7
10 Aston Villa 23 9 7 7 26 25 34 1
11 West Ham Utd. 25 9 7 9 21 29 34 -8
12 Wimbledon 23 8 8 7 27 31 32 -4
13 Tottenham Hotspur 25 7 9 9 34 31 30 3
14 Ipswich Town 23 7 9 7 22 27 30 -5
15 Coventry City 23 6 10 7 25 29 28 -4
16 Everton 25 7 4 14 22 35 25 -13
17 Chelsea 23 6 6 11 21 28 24 -7
18 Sheffield Utd. 25 4 10 11 20 37 22 -17
19 Man. City 23 4 8 11 20 30 20 -10
20 Oldham Athletic 24 4 7 13 19 41 19 -22
21 Southampton 24 5 3 16 23 36 18 -13
22 Swindon Town 25 2 10 13 24 54 16 -30
|
13.467 | Round 26 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Mon Jan 17 1994 14:18 | 40 |
| Aston Villa 3 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Everton 6 - 2 Swindon Town
Leeds Utd. 0 - 0 Ipswich Town
Man. City 0 - 0 Arsenal
Norwich City 1 - 1 Chelsea
Oldham Athletic 0 - 3 Liverpool
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Southampton 1 - 0 Coventry City
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 1 Man. Utd.
Wimbledon 2 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Sun
Q.P.R. 1 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 26 18 7 1 53 23 61 30
2 Blackburn Rovers 24 14 6 4 34 19 48 15
3 Newcastle Utd. 25 13 6 6 44 23 45 21
4 Arsenal 26 12 9 5 30 13 45 17
5 Leeds Utd. 25 11 10 4 38 26 43 12
6 Liverpool 25 11 7 7 42 31 40 11
7 Norwich City 24 10 8 6 37 27 38 10
8 Sheffield Wed. 26 9 10 7 46 35 37 11
9 Aston Villa 24 10 7 7 29 26 37 3
10 Q.P.R. 25 10 6 9 39 33 36 6
11 Wimbledon 24 9 8 7 29 32 35 -3
12 West Ham Utd. 26 9 7 10 22 32 34 -10
13 Ipswich Town 24 7 10 7 22 27 31 -5
14 Tottenham Hotspur 26 7 9 10 34 32 30 2
15 Coventry City 24 6 10 8 25 30 28 -5
16 Everton 26 8 4 14 28 37 28 -9
17 Chelsea 24 6 7 11 22 29 25 -7
18 Sheffield Utd. 26 4 10 12 21 39 22 -18
19 Man. City 24 4 9 11 20 30 21 -10
20 Southampton 25 6 3 16 24 36 21 -12
21 Oldham Athletic 25 4 7 14 19 44 19 -25
22 Swindon Town 26 2 10 14 26 60 16 -34
|
13.468 | Round 27 | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Fri Feb 04 1994 13:14 | 39 |
|
RE: 57.124
There you go Steve.
As of Febuary 4th
FA CARLING PREMIERSHIP
======================
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 27 19 7 1 54 23 64 31
2 Blackburn Rovers 25 15 6 4 36 20 51 16
3 Arsenal 27 12 10 5 31 14 46 17
4 Newcastle Utd. 26 13 6 7 45 25 45 20
5 Liverpool 26 12 7 7 44 32 43 12
6 Leeds Utd. 26 11 10 5 39 28 43 11
7 Sheffield Wed. 27 10 10 7 49 36 40 13
8 Norwich City 25 10 9 6 40 30 39 10
9 Q.P.R. 26 11 6 9 40 33 39 7
10 Aston Villa 25 10 8 7 30 27 38 3
11 West Ham Utd. 27 9 8 10 25 35 35 -10
12 Coventry City 26 8 10 8 27 29 34 -2
13 Wimbledon 25 8 9 8 27 33 33 -6
14 Ipswich Town 26 7 11 8 22 28 32 -6
15 Tottenham Hotspur 27 7 9 11 35 34 30 1
16 Everton 27 8 4 15 28 38 28 -10
17 Chelsea 25 6 8 11 23 30 26 -7
18 Southampton 26 7 3 16 26 37 24 -11
19 Sheffield Utd. 27 4 10 13 22 42 22 -20
20 Man. City 25 4 9 12 21 32 21 -11
21 Oldham Athletic 26 4 8 14 20 45 20 -25
22 Swindon Town 27 3 10 14 28 61 19 -33
|
13.469 | Missing Scores | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | Some days are bouncers that won't let you in | Fri Feb 04 1994 15:38 | 23 |
| 22nd Jan
Arsenal 1 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Chelsea 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Coventry City 0 - 1 Q.P.R.
Ipswich Town 0 - 0 Wimbledon
Liverpool 2 - 1 Man. City
Man. Utd. 1 - 0 Everton
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 2 Southampton
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Swindon Town 2 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
23rd Jan
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 1 Leeds Utd.
24th Jan
West Ham Utd. 3 - 3 Norwich City
1st Feb
Coventry City 1 - 0 Ipswich Town
|
13.470 | Round 28 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | Some days are bouncers that won't let you in | Mon Feb 07 1994 17:11 | 43 |
| Blackburn Rovers 3 - 0 Wimbledon
Everton 4 - 2 Chelsea
Man. City 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Norwich City 2 - 2 Liverpool
Oldham Athletic 2 - 1 Southampton
Q.P.R. 2 - 3 Man. Utd.
Swindon Town 3 - 1 Coventry City
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 3 Sheffield Wed.
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 28 20 7 1 57 25 67 32
2 Blackburn Rovers 26 16 6 4 39 20 54 19
3 Arsenal 27 12 10 5 31 14 46 17
4 Newcastle Utd. 26 13 6 7 45 25 45 20
5 Liverpool 27 12 8 7 46 34 44 12
6 Sheffield Wed. 28 11 10 7 52 37 43 15
7 Leeds Utd. 27 11 10 6 39 29 43 10
8 Aston Villa 26 11 8 7 31 27 41 4
9 Norwich City 26 10 10 6 42 32 40 10
10 Q.P.R. 27 11 6 10 42 36 39 6
11 West Ham Utd. 27 9 8 10 25 35 35 -10
12 Wimbledon 25 8 9 8 26 34 33 -8
13 Ipswich Town 27 7 11 9 23 30 32 -7
14 Coventry City 26 7 10 9 26 31 31 -5
15 Everton 28 9 4 15 32 40 31 -8
16 Tottenham Hotspur 28 7 9 12 36 37 30 -1
17 Chelsea 26 6 8 12 25 34 26 -9
18 Man. City 26 5 9 12 23 33 24 -10
19 Southampton 27 7 3 17 27 39 24 -12
20 Oldham Athletic 27 5 8 14 22 46 23 -24
21 Sheffield Utd. 27 4 10 13 22 42 22 -20
22 Swindon Town 28 4 10 14 31 62 22 -31
Can someone please confirm the score between Wimbledon & Coventry over Xmas.
I thought it was 3-1 to Wimbledon, but according to the tables everywhere else,
it would appear the score was 2-1 Coventry. see .468
Al
|
13.471 | Round 29 | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Mon Feb 21 1994 17:35 | 49 |
13.472 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | Some days are bouncers that won't let you in | Mon Feb 21 1994 18:00 | 32 |
| Forgot:
Everton 1 - 1 Arsenal
Leeds Utd. 2 - 0 Liverpool
Swindon Town 3 - 3 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 28 20 7 1 57 25 67 32
2 Blackburn Rovers 28 18 6 4 42 20 60 22
3 Arsenal 29 12 12 5 33 16 48 17
4 Leeds Utd. 28 12 10 6 41 29 46 12
5 Newcastle Utd. 28 13 6 9 47 30 45 17
6 Aston Villa 27 12 8 7 36 27 44 9
7 Liverpool 29 12 8 9 48 40 44 8
8 Sheffield Wed. 28 11 10 7 52 37 43 15
9 Norwich City 28 10 12 6 46 36 42 10
10 Q.P.R. 27 11 6 10 42 36 39 6
11 Coventry City 29 9 11 9 32 32 38 0
12 Wimbledon 27 9 9 9 31 38 36 -7
13 West Ham Utd. 28 9 9 10 25 35 36 -10
14 Ipswich Town 28 7 12 9 23 30 33 -7
15 Everton 30 9 6 15 33 41 33 -8
16 Tottenham Hotspur 29 7 9 13 36 39 30 -3
17 Southampton 28 8 3 17 31 41 27 -10
18 Chelsea 27 6 8 13 26 36 26 -10
19 Oldham Athletic 28 6 8 14 24 47 26 -23
20 Man. City 28 5 10 13 23 37 25 -14
21 Sheffield Utd. 28 4 11 13 22 42 23 -20
22 Swindon Town 30 4 11 15 34 70 23 -36
|
13.473 | Round 29 | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Wed Feb 23 1994 15:57 | 35 |
| Update:
22nd Feb. Norwich 2-2 Blackburn
22nd Feb. Aston Villa 0-0 Man City
22nd Feb. Ipswich 3-2 Sheffield Utd
FA CARLING PREMIERSHIP
======================
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1. Manchester United 28 20 7 1 57 25 67 +32
2. Blackburn Rovers 29 18 7 4 44 22 61 +22
3. Arsenal 28 12 11 5 32 15 47 +17
4. Newcastle United 28 13 6 9 47 30 45 +17
5. Aston Villa 28 12 9 7 36 27 45 +9
6. Liverpool 28 12 8 8 48 38 44 +10
7. Sheffield Wednesday 28 11 10 7 52 37 43 +15
8. Leeds United 27 11 10 6 39 29 43 +10
9. Norwich City 28 10 12 6 45 35 42 +10
10. Queen's Park Rangers 27 11 6 10 42 36 39 +6
11. Coventry City 29 9 11 9 32 32 38 0
12. Ipswich Town 29 8 12 9 26 32 36 -6
13. Wimbledon 27 9 9 9 31 38 36 -7
14. West Ham United 28 9 9 10 25 35 36 -10
15. Everton 29 9 5 15 32 40 32 -8
16. Tottenham Hotspur 29 7 9 13 36 39 30 -3
17. Southampton 28 8 3 17 31 41 27 -10
18. Chelsea 27 6 8 13 26 36 26 -10
19. Manchester City 29 5 11 13 23 37 26 -14
20. Oldham Athletic 28 6 8 14 24 47 26 -23
21. Sheffield United 29 4 11 14 24 45 23 -21
22. Swindon Town 29 4 10 15 31 67 22 -36
|
13.474 | | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Wed Feb 23 1994 16:06 | 4 |
| Much as I like .-1, I think you'll have to give Leeds (at least) another 3
points and move them up to 4th. Did you miss the results from (about -.2)?
g
|
13.475 | Apologies | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Wed Feb 23 1994 17:37 | 29 |
|
FA CARLING PREMIERSHIP
======================
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1. Manchester United 28 20 7 1 57 25 67 +32
2. Blackburn Rovers 29 18 7 4 44 22 61 +22
3. Arsenal 29 12 12 5 33 16 48 +17
4. Leeds United 28 12 10 6 41 29 46 +12
5. Newcastle United 28 13 6 9 47 30 45 +17
6. Aston Villa 28 12 9 7 36 27 45 +9
7. Liverpool 29 12 8 9 48 40 44 +8
8. Sheffield Wednesday 28 11 10 7 52 37 43 +15
9. Norwich City 29 10 13 6 48 38 43 +10
10. Queen's Park Rangers 27 11 6 10 42 36 39 +6
11. Coventry City 29 9 11 9 32 32 38 0
12. Ipswich Town 29 8 12 9 26 32 36 -6
13. Wimbledon 27 9 9 9 31 38 36 -7
14. West Ham United 28 9 9 10 25 35 36 -10
15. Everton 30 9 6 15 33 41 33 -8
16. Tottenham Hotspur 29 7 9 13 36 39 30 -3
17. Southampton 28 8 3 17 31 41 27 -10
18. Chelsea 27 6 8 13 26 36 26 -10
19. Manchester City 29 5 11 13 23 37 26 -14
20. Oldham Athletic 28 6 8 14 24 47 26 -23
21. Sheffield United 29 4 11 14 24 45 23 -21
22. Swindon Town 30 4 11 15 34 70 23 -36
|
13.476 | Round 31 - For Swindon at least :-) | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | Some days are bouncers that won't let you in | Mon Feb 28 1994 14:49 | 33 |
| Arsenal 1 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Liverpool 1 - 0 Coventry City
Man. City 2 - 1 Swindon Town
Norwich City 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Southampton 1 - 0 Wimbledon
West Ham Utd. 2 - 2 Man. Utd.
Chelsea 4 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 29 20 8 1 59 27 68 32
2 Blackburn Rovers 30 18 7 5 44 23 61 21
3 Arsenal 30 13 12 5 34 16 51 18
4 Liverpool 30 13 8 9 49 40 47 9
5 Leeds Utd. 28 12 10 6 41 29 46 12
6 Newcastle Utd. 28 13 6 9 47 30 45 17
7 Aston Villa 28 12 9 7 36 27 45 9
8 Sheffield Wed. 29 11 11 7 53 38 44 15
9 Norwich City 30 10 14 6 49 39 44 10
10 Q.P.R. 27 11 6 10 42 36 39 6
11 Coventry City 30 9 11 10 32 33 38 -1
12 West Ham Utd. 29 9 10 10 27 37 37 -10
13 Ipswich Town 29 8 12 9 26 32 36 -6
14 Wimbledon 28 9 9 10 31 39 36 -8
15 Everton 30 9 6 15 33 41 33 -8
16 Tottenham Hotspur 30 7 9 14 39 43 30 -4
17 Southampton 29 9 3 17 32 41 30 -9
18 Chelsea 28 7 8 13 30 39 29 -9
19 Man. City 30 6 11 13 25 38 29 -13
20 Oldham Athletic 28 6 8 14 24 47 26 -23
21 Sheffield Utd. 29 4 11 14 24 45 23 -21
22 Swindon Town 31 4 11 16 35 72 23 -37
|
13.477 | Round 29 for Newcastle | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Mon Feb 28 1994 18:56 | 6 |
| Hi Al,
How about Newcastle v Coventry result from last Wed? Seeing us below Liverpol
and Leeds did my heart no good at all!
grahame
|
13.478 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | Some days are bouncers that won't let you in | Mon Feb 28 1994 19:31 | 9 |
| I was hoping you wouldn't notice Grahame.
And what's more surprising is that is't still only Monday ;-)
Updated table will be entered shortly.
4-0 to Coventry wasn't it??? :-)
Al
|
13.479 | Happy Grahame ?? | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | Some days are bouncers that won't let you in | Mon Feb 28 1994 19:34 | 29 |
| Wed 23rd Feb.
Newcastle Utd. 4 - 0 Coventry City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 29 20 8 1 59 27 68 32
2 Blackburn Rovers 30 18 7 5 44 23 61 21
3 Arsenal 30 13 12 5 34 16 51 18
4 Newcastle Utd. 29 14 6 9 51 30 48 21
5 Liverpool 30 13 8 9 49 40 47 9
6 Leeds Utd. 28 12 10 6 41 29 46 12
7 Aston Villa 28 12 9 7 36 27 45 9
8 Sheffield Wed. 29 11 11 7 53 38 44 15
9 Norwich City 30 10 14 6 49 39 44 10
10 Q.P.R. 27 11 6 10 42 36 39 6
11 Coventry City 31 9 11 11 32 37 38 -5
12 West Ham Utd. 29 9 10 10 27 37 37 -10
13 Ipswich Town 29 8 12 9 26 32 36 -6
14 Wimbledon 28 9 9 10 31 39 36 -8
15 Everton 30 9 6 15 33 41 33 -8
16 Tottenham Hotspur 30 7 9 14 39 43 30 -4
17 Southampton 29 9 3 17 32 41 30 -9
18 Chelsea 28 7 8 13 30 39 29 -9
19 Man. City 30 6 11 13 25 38 29 -13
20 Oldham Athletic 28 6 8 14 24 47 26 -23
21 Sheffield Utd. 29 4 11 14 24 45 23 -21
22 Swindon Town 31 4 11 16 35 72 23 -37
|
13.480 | | BERN01::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon | Tue Mar 01 1994 14:14 | 6 |
|
Anyone interested in listing the top 10 scorers in the Premier League
this season. I think it would be interesting to compare with other
leagues (eg. German where the top scorer has 16 goals).
JBG
|
13.481 | Golden Boot | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Tue Mar 01 1994 14:42 | 8 |
13.482 | Last nights result + Leading scorers | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | Some days are bouncers that won't let you in | Tue Mar 01 1994 14:50 | 55 |
| Oldham Athletic 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 29 20 8 1 59 27 68 32
2 Blackburn Rovers 30 18 7 5 44 23 61 21
3 Arsenal 30 13 12 5 34 16 51 18
4 Newcastle Utd. 29 14 6 9 51 30 48 21
5 Leeds Utd. 29 12 11 6 42 30 47 12
6 Liverpool 30 13 8 9 49 40 47 9
7 Aston Villa 28 12 9 7 36 27 45 9
8 Sheffield Wed. 29 11 11 7 53 38 44 15
9 Norwich City 30 10 14 6 49 39 44 10
10 Q.P.R. 27 11 6 10 42 36 39 6
11 Coventry City 31 9 11 11 32 37 38 -5
12 West Ham Utd. 29 9 10 10 27 37 37 -10
13 Ipswich Town 29 8 12 9 26 32 36 -6
14 Wimbledon 28 9 9 10 31 39 36 -8
15 Everton 30 9 6 15 33 41 33 -8
16 Tottenham Hotspur 30 7 9 14 39 43 30 -4
17 Southampton 29 9 3 17 32 41 30 -9
18 Chelsea 28 7 8 13 30 39 29 -9
19 Man. City 30 6 11 13 25 38 29 -13
20 Oldham Athletic 29 6 9 14 25 48 27 -23
21 Sheffield Utd. 29 4 11 14 24 45 23 -21
22 Swindon Town 31 4 11 16 35 72 23 -37
Scorers with 15 goals or more (League only) taken from Sunday's Observer:
Prem
Cole 26 Newcastle
Shearer 25 Blackburn
Sutton 21 Norwich
Stein 17 Chelsea
Le Tissier 16 Southampton
FYI
Div 1
Armstrong 18 Crystal Palace
Furlong 15 Watford
Div 2
Quinn 27 Reading
Bennett 21 Wrexham
Div 3
Ellis 20 Preston North End
Carter 18 Bury
|
13.483 | Info needed on 2nd div. players | ELIS::GEELEN | | Thu Mar 03 1994 17:24 | 29 |
| Hi,
On my PC I've got a 'new' Player Manager game called :
Championship Manager '93 (CM '93).
In my first game I chose to manager Man.utd. and I became champion after
2 seasons without much difficulties.
Now I'm trying to promote to the premier league with the second division
team Bristol City (as fast as possible).
Therefore I want to buy a few good player, from other second div. teams.
But my problem is that I don't know which players are good in this
division.
Can anyone tell me some names and the team their playing in.
(season 1993)
I need :
Goalies
Defenders
Midfielders
Strikers
(I don't want to start a discussion of which team is the best in
England, I only want some names of good player in the second division
for my PC game.)
Thanks, Jeroen
|
13.484 | Stick the rest of the Reading team in too. | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Thu Mar 03 1994 17:33 | 5 |
13.485 | Wrong division? | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Thu Mar 03 1994 19:59 | 5 |
| I might be missing a point here, but aren't Bristol City in Division 1? And
therefore you want Div 1 players? If so, I imagine you just have to read the
Crystal Palace and West Brom notes to get everyone you need . . .!
g
|
13.486 | No | ELIS::GEELEN | | Fri Mar 04 1994 10:49 | 5 |
| > aren't Bristol City in Division 1.
Perhaps in real live they are, but not in my PC-game !
J.
|
13.487 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | | Fri Mar 04 1994 12:13 | 1 |
| if you wait a few monthe you could get some good Spurs players....8-)
|
13.488 | Weekend's results | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | Some days are bouncers that won't let you in | Mon Mar 14 1994 17:24 | 38 |
| Sat 12th
Aston Villa 0 - 1 Ipswich Town
Man. City 0 - 1 Wimbledon
Newcastle Utd. 7 - 1 Swindon Town
Norwich City 3 - 4 Q.P.R.
Southampton 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Sun 13th
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 2 Leeds Utd.
Liverpool 2 - 1 Everton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 30 20 8 2 59 28 68 31
2 Blackburn Rovers 31 19 7 5 46 23 64 23
3 Newcastle Utd. 31 16 6 9 59 31 54 28
4 Arsenal 31 14 12 5 39 17 54 22
5 Liverpool 32 14 8 10 51 43 50 8
6 Leeds Utd. 31 12 13 6 44 32 49 12
7 Aston Villa 31 13 10 8 38 29 49 9
8 Sheffield Wed. 31 11 12 8 54 40 45 14
9 Norwich City 32 10 14 8 53 46 44 7
10 Q.P.R. 29 12 7 10 47 40 43 7
11 Wimbledon 30 11 9 10 35 40 42 -5
12 Ipswich Town 31 9 12 10 28 37 39 -9
13 Coventry City 32 9 11 12 32 38 38 -6
14 West Ham Utd. 30 9 11 10 28 38 38 -10
15 Everton 32 10 6 16 36 44 36 -8
16 Tottenham Hotspur 32 7 11 14 42 46 32 -4
17 Chelsea 29 8 8 13 31 39 32 -8
18 Southampton 31 9 5 17 33 42 32 -9
19 Man. City 32 6 12 14 26 40 30 -14
20 Oldham Athletic 30 6 9 15 26 50 27 -24
21 Sheffield Utd. 31 4 13 14 28 49 25 -21
22 Swindon Town 33 4 12 17 37 80 24 -43
|
13.489 | CM '93 | CURRNT::SHAW | | Tue Mar 15 1994 16:18 | 10 |
| Jeroen,
Re .483
Within CM '93 buying good players does not guarantee that they will
be efficient in your team. I have bought 7.5+ rated players who quickly
fall to 5.0 or so. I know the style and formation affects performance
but I am intrigued as to how the ratings are calculated.
Ray.
|
13.490 | fixtures for March 29th??? | GALVIA::SPAIN | signed long gary(); | Tue Mar 15 1994 21:07 | 15 |
|
I'll be in London for a couple of days at the end of March. I'd like
to see a game on Tuesday evening March 29th.
According to the fixtures it's a choice of
Wimbledon v Blackburn (I'd rather watch football)
Peterboro v Palace (if there's a train abck afterwards)
Oxford v Birmingham (if there's a train abck afterwards)
Are there any re-arranged fixtures scheduled for that date in the
London area? I'd also like to see a new ground which excludes most of
the London clubs except Charlton, Millwall, Fulham and Barnet.
Gary.
|
13.491 | on 29th March.. | TRUCKS::SANT | network partner exited | Wed Mar 16 1994 13:17 | 4 |
|
Spurs v Wednesday?
Andy.
|
13.492 | Major dip in my team | ELIS::GEELEN | | Wed Mar 16 1994 17:51 | 37 |
| Re. .489
> Within CM '93 buying good players does not guarantee that they will
> be efficient in your team. I have bought 7.5+ rated players who quickly
> fall to 5.0 or so. I know the style and formation affects performance
> but I am intrigued as to how the ratings are calculated.
Ray,
At the moment I'm managing Brighton and my team is on the fourth place.
(I transferred during the season from Bristol C to Brighton).
With only 8 matches to go chances are good for promotion.
My team played about 20 matches with an average of 6.5, but now they
are playing very bad (3.0 average).
I don't know how this is possible, because I still play with almost the
same players, and in the same formation.
Which team are you managing and what style are they playing ?
I play 4-4-2 Direct ball most of the time.
I would like to play 4-2-4 with a support man :
10
7 11
9 (Support)
6 8
3 4 5 2
1
But than I lose my games playing this formation, so I stick to 4-4-2
for the moment.
Jeroen..
|
13.493 | Weekend results | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | Some days are bouncers that won't let you in | Mon Mar 21 1994 14:31 | 41 |
| Aston Villa 1 - 2 Oldham Athletic
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 Coventry City
Liverpool 2 - 1 Chelsea
Man. City 0 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Q.P.R. 1 - 0 Wimbledon
Southampton 0 - 4 Arsenal
Swindon Town 2 - 2 Man. Utd.
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
West Ham Utd. 2 - 4 Newcastle Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 32 21 9 2 66 30 72 36
2 Blackburn Rovers 32 20 7 5 48 24 67 24
3 Newcastle Utd. 32 17 6 9 63 33 57 30
4 Arsenal 32 15 12 5 43 17 57 26
5 Leeds Utd. 33 14 13 6 47 32 55 15
6 Liverpool 33 15 8 10 53 44 53 9
7 Aston Villa 33 13 10 10 39 33 49 6
8 Q.P.R. 31 13 8 10 49 41 47 8
9 Sheffield Wed. 33 11 12 10 55 47 45 8
10 Norwich City 32 10 14 8 53 46 44 7
11 Wimbledon 32 11 9 12 35 43 42 -8
12 Ipswich Town 32 9 13 10 29 38 40 -9
13 Coventry City 33 9 11 13 32 39 38 -7
14 West Ham Utd. 31 9 11 11 30 42 38 -12
15 Everton 32 10 6 16 36 44 36 -8
16 Chelsea 31 9 8 14 34 41 35 -7
17 Tottenham Hotspur 33 7 12 14 43 47 33 -4
18 Southampton 32 9 5 18 33 46 32 -13
19 Man. City 33 6 13 14 26 40 31 -14
20 Oldham Athletic 31 7 9 15 28 51 30 -23
21 Sheffield Utd. 33 4 15 14 29 50 27 -21
22 Swindon Town 34 4 13 17 39 82 25 -43
Tonight
Norwich City v Everton
|
13.494 | League Update | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Tue Mar 22 1994 12:24 | 32 |
|
22nd March '94; Norwich 3-0 Everton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 32 21 9 2 66 30 72 36
2 Blackburn Rovers 32 20 7 5 48 24 67 24
3 Newcastle Utd. 32 17 6 9 63 33 57 30
4 Arsenal 32 15 12 5 43 17 57 26
5 Leeds Utd. 33 14 13 6 47 32 55 15
6 Liverpool 33 15 8 10 53 44 53 9
7 Aston Villa 33 13 10 10 39 33 49 6
8 Norwich City 33 11 14 8 56 46 47 10
9 Q.P.R. 31 13 8 10 49 41 47 8
10 Sheffield Wed. 33 11 12 10 55 47 45 8
11 Wimbledon 32 11 9 12 35 43 42 -8
12 Ipswich Town 32 9 13 10 29 38 40 -9
13 Coventry City 33 9 11 13 32 39 38 -7
14 West Ham Utd. 31 9 11 11 30 42 38 -12
15 Everton 33 10 6 17 36 47 36 -11
16 Chelsea 31 9 8 14 34 41 35 -7
17 Tottenham Hotspur 33 7 12 14 43 47 33 -4
18 Southampton 32 9 5 18 33 46 32 -13
19 Man. City 33 6 13 14 26 40 31 -14
20 Oldham Athletic 31 7 9 15 28 51 30 -23
21 Sheffield Utd. 33 4 15 14 29 50 27 -21
22 Swindon Town 34 4 13 17 39 82 25 -43
Tonight
Arsenal v Man Utd
|
13.495 | Update | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Wed Mar 23 1994 11:54 | 29 |
|
23rd March '94; Arsenal 2-2 Man Utd
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 33 21 10 2 68 32 73 36
2 Blackburn Rovers 32 20 7 5 48 24 67 24
3 Arsenal 33 15 13 5 45 19 58 26
4 Newcastle Utd. 32 17 6 9 63 33 57 30
5 Leeds Utd. 33 14 13 6 47 32 55 15
6 Liverpool 33 15 8 10 53 44 53 9
7 Aston Villa 33 13 10 10 39 33 49 6
8 Norwich City 33 11 14 8 56 46 47 10
9 Q.P.R. 31 13 8 10 49 41 47 8
10 Sheffield Wed. 33 11 12 10 55 47 45 8
11 Wimbledon 32 11 9 12 35 43 42 -8
12 Ipswich Town 32 9 13 10 29 38 40 -9
13 Coventry City 33 9 11 13 32 39 38 -7
14 West Ham Utd. 31 9 11 11 30 42 38 -12
15 Everton 33 10 6 17 36 47 36 -11
16 Chelsea 31 9 8 14 34 41 35 -7
17 Tottenham Hotspur 33 7 12 14 43 47 33 -4
18 Southampton 32 9 5 18 33 46 32 -13
19 Man. City 33 6 13 14 26 40 31 -14
20 Oldham Athletic 31 7 9 15 28 51 30 -23
21 Sheffield Utd. 33 4 15 14 29 50 27 -21
22 Swindon Town 34 4 13 17 39 82 25 -43
|
13.496 | Update | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Thu Mar 24 1994 12:01 | 30 |
|
24th March '94; Newcastle 2-0 Ipswich
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 33 21 10 2 68 32 73 36
2 Blackburn Rovers 32 20 7 5 48 24 67 24
3 Newcastle Utd. 33 18 6 9 65 33 60 32
4 Arsenal 33 15 13 5 45 19 58 26
5 Leeds Utd. 33 14 13 6 47 32 55 15
6 Liverpool 33 15 8 10 53 44 53 9
7 Aston Villa 33 13 10 10 39 33 49 6
8 Norwich City 33 11 14 8 56 46 47 10
9 Q.P.R. 31 13 8 10 49 41 47 8
10 Sheffield Wed. 33 11 12 10 55 47 45 8
11 Wimbledon 32 11 9 12 35 43 42 -8
12 Ipswich Town 33 9 13 11 29 40 40 -11
13 Coventry City 33 9 11 13 32 39 38 -7
14 West Ham Utd. 31 9 11 11 30 42 38 -12
15 Everton 33 10 6 17 36 47 36 -11
16 Chelsea 31 9 8 14 34 41 35 -7
17 Tottenham Hotspur 33 7 12 14 43 47 33 -4
18 Southampton 32 9 5 18 33 46 32 -13
19 Man. City 33 6 13 14 26 40 31 -14
20 Oldham Athletic 31 7 9 15 28 51 30 -23
21 Sheffield Utd. 33 4 15 14 29 50 27 -21
22 Swindon Town 34 4 13 17 39 82 25 -43
|
13.497 | | GALVIA::SPAIN | signed long gary(); | Thu Mar 24 1994 21:14 | 11 |
|
Two questions on English league grounds.
How far is Peterboro's ground from the Railway station? How do you ge
there from the station?
Where is Millwall's new ground? Nearest tube or BR station?
thanks in advance
Gary.
|
13.498 | | ELIS::GEELEN | | Fri Mar 25 1994 18:30 | 15 |
| How is Alphons Groenendijk doing at Man. City ?
Is he back in the team ?
And the other Dutch players :
Seegers (Wimbeldon)
Monkou (Southampton)
Vonk (Man. City)
Ten Caat, Snelders (Aberdeen)
Huistra (Glas. Rangers, words is he will leave the club at the end of
this season, where's he going to ? Are there teams interested ?)
Jeroen...
|
13.499 | | GALVIA::SPAIN | signed long gary(); | Fri Mar 25 1994 20:08 | 8 |
|
Don't all rush to answer my questions re Millwall and Peterboro.
Thanks for the phone call Gary. I now know the Millwall's new ground
is near their old one which means getting the tube to Newcrossgate.
Peterboro's ground is about a mile from the station.
Gary.
|
13.500 | Request from a Yank.... | ASDG::JOHNSON | | Fri Mar 25 1994 21:02 | 10 |
|
Would it be possible for someone to post the most
current table for Division I? I'd like to get a peak
at which teams have a shot to move up to the Premier
for next year....
Also, is the Premier League reducing the number of
teams or is it staying at 22?
Jerry
|
13.501 | Scottish info. | PAKORA::ISUTHERLAND | My other p_name is better! | Sat Mar 26 1994 05:08 | 12 |
|
Jereon,
Huistra and Ten Caat are currently out of favour at their clubs
and both look as if they will be moving on at the end of the
season.The last i heard was that Notts Forest and some Dutch
team had enquired about Huistra.The Dutch team were put off by
Rangers' value of the player and the signing deadline in England
has passed.
Theo Snelders injured his shoulder a couple of weeks ago and will
be out for a couple more.
Iain.
|
13.502 | | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Sun Mar 27 1994 15:49 | 6 |
| Re Dutch players in England:
Segers and Monkou are both doing well. Not sure about Vonk, but I don't think
anyone in the Man City team at the moment is having a good time!
grahame
|
13.503 | Division 1 details | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Some Fantastic Place | Mon Mar 28 1994 13:23 | 17 |
| Division One Table as at March 26th:
Palace P38 Pts71 Gls Scored 62
Forest 36 63 58
Leicester 36 60 58
Millwall 35 59 45
Derby 36 56 55
Notts Co 36 55 53
Charlton 35 55 44
Tranmere 36 53 47
M'bro 36 53 46
Stoke 37 52 43
Promotion is Top 2 automatically, plus 1 from next 4 via play-offs.
Season 94/5 is when the Premier starts to decrease
Paul
|
13.504 | Weekend Results | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | Some days are bouncers that won't let you in | Mon Mar 28 1994 14:14 | 42 |
| Arsenal 1 - 0 Liverpool
Blackburn Rovers 3 - 1 Swindon Town
Chelsea 2 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Coventry City 2 - 1 Norwich City
Everton 0 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Ipswich Town 1 - 3 Q.P.R.
Oldham Athletic 0 - 0 Man. City
Sheffield Utd. 0 - 0 Southampton
Wimbledon 1 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 33 21 10 2 68 32 73 36
2 Blackburn Rovers 33 21 7 5 51 25 70 26
3 Arsenal 34 16 13 5 46 19 61 27
4 Newcastle Utd. 33 18 6 9 65 33 60 32
5 Leeds Utd. 34 14 13 7 47 33 55 14
6 Liverpool 34 15 8 11 53 45 53 8
7 Q.P.R. 32 14 8 10 52 42 50 10
8 Aston Villa 33 13 10 10 39 33 49 6
9 Norwich City 34 11 14 9 57 48 47 9
10 Sheffield Wed. 33 11 12 10 55 47 45 8
11 Wimbledon 33 12 9 12 36 43 45 -7
12 Coventry City 34 10 11 13 34 40 41 -6
13 Ipswich Town 34 9 13 12 30 43 40 -13
14 Chelsea 32 10 8 14 36 41 38 -5
15 West Ham Utd. 32 9 11 12 30 44 38 -14
16 Tottenham Hotspur 34 8 12 14 44 47 36 -3
17 Everton 34 10 6 18 36 48 36 -12
18 Southampton 33 9 6 18 33 46 33 -13
19 Man. City 34 6 14 14 26 40 32 -14
20 Oldham Athletic 32 7 10 15 28 51 31 -23
21 Sheffield Utd. 34 4 16 14 29 50 28 -21
22 Swindon Town 35 4 13 18 40 85 25 -45
And as if you didn't know:
Coca-Cola Cup Final at Wembley:
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Man. Utd
|
13.505 | Free For A Pint ? | PANIC::ANDERSON | Running Through The Forest | Mon Mar 28 1994 16:25 | 26 |
| >> <<< Note 13.499 by GALVIA::SPAIN "signed long gary();" >>>
>> Don't all rush to answer my questions re Millwall and Peterboro.
>> Thanks for the phone call Gary. I now know the Millwall's new ground
>> is near their old one which means getting the tube to Newcrossgate.
>> Peterboro's ground is about a mile from the station.
>> Gary.
Gary,
(If this isn't too late)
Millwall's new ground is nearer Surrey Docks tube station or South
Bermondsey BR (from London Bridge).
Does this mean you're over here Tuesday and Wednesday nights, as
Millwall v Luton is on Wednesday. (And a cheap day return to Roots
Hall, Southend, for the visit of The 'Pies would be far better value!)
Cheers,
Rob
|
13.506 | Update | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Tue Mar 29 1994 13:00 | 31 |
13.507 | Update | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Wed Mar 30 1994 13:20 | 31 |
13.508 | Update | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Thu Mar 31 1994 13:27 | 32 |
13.509 | Update | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Wed Apr 06 1994 15:38 | 56 |
13.510 | Missed one | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Wed Apr 06 1994 16:10 | 29 |
| Friday 1st April
Leeds Utd. 1 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 36 23 10 3 72 36 79 36
2 Blackburn Rovers 36 23 7 6 57 29 76 28
3 Newcastle Utd. 36 19 8 9 69 34 65 35
4 Arsenal 36 16 15 5 48 21 63 27
5 Leeds Utd. 36 15 14 7 52 34 59 18
6 Sheffield Wed. 36 14 12 10 64 49 54 15
7 Liverpool 37 15 9 13 55 49 54 6
8 Wimbledon 36 14 10 12 43 46 52 -3
9 Aston Villa 36 13 12 11 39 36 51 3
10 Q.P.R. 34 14 8 12 53 50 50 3
11 Norwich City 37 11 15 11 58 53 48 5
12 Coventry City 36 11 11 14 37 42 44 -5
13 West Ham Utd. 35 11 11 13 38 49 44 -11
14 Chelsea 35 11 9 15 39 44 42 -5
15 Ipswich Town 37 9 14 14 33 49 41 -16
16 Tottenham Hotspur 36 9 12 15 47 52 39 -5
17 Man. City 37 8 15 14 32 42 39 -10
18 Everton 37 10 7 20 37 56 37 -19
19 Oldham Athletic 35 9 10 16 37 56 37 -19
20 Sheffield Utd. 37 6 17 14 35 54 35 -19
21 Southampton 36 9 6 21 34 52 33 -18
22 Swindon Town 37 4 14 19 41 87 26 -46
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13.511 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Mon Apr 11 1994 18:25 | 32 |
| Coventry City 1 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool 1 - 0 Ipswich Town
Man. City 2 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Norwich City 4 - 5 Southampton
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 1 Q.P.R.
West Ham Utd. 0 - 1 Everton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 36 23 10 3 72 36 79 36
2 Blackburn Rovers 36 23 7 6 57 29 76 28
3 Newcastle Utd. 37 19 8 10 70 36 65 34
4 Arsenal 36 16 15 5 48 21 63 27
5 Leeds Utd. 36 15 14 7 52 34 59 18
6 Sheffield Wed. 37 15 12 10 67 50 57 17
7 Liverpool 38 16 9 13 56 49 57 7
8 Wimbledon 36 14 10 12 43 46 52 -3
9 Aston Villa 36 13 12 11 39 36 51 3
10 Q.P.R. 35 14 8 13 54 53 50 1
11 Norwich City 38 11 15 12 62 58 48 4
12 Coventry City 37 12 11 14 38 42 47 -4
13 West Ham Utd. 36 11 11 14 38 50 44 -12
14 Chelsea 35 11 9 15 39 44 42 -5
15 Man. City 38 9 15 14 34 43 42 -9
16 Ipswich Town 38 9 14 15 33 50 41 -17
17 Everton 38 11 7 20 38 56 40 -18
18 Tottenham Hotspur 37 9 12 16 47 53 39 -6
19 Oldham Athletic 35 9 10 16 37 56 37 -19
20 Southampton 37 10 6 21 39 56 36 -17
21 Sheffield Utd. 37 6 17 14 35 54 35 -19
22 Swindon Town 37 4 14 19 41 87 26 -46
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13.512 | Top 10 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Tue Apr 12 1994 17:47 | 15 |
| Blackburn Rovers 1 - 0 Aston Villa
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 36 23 10 3 72 36 79 36
2 Blackburn Rovers 37 24 7 6 58 29 79 29
3 Newcastle Utd. 37 19 8 10 70 36 65 34
4 Arsenal 36 16 15 5 48 21 63 27
5 Leeds Utd. 36 15 14 7 52 34 59 18
6 Sheffield Wed. 37 15 12 10 67 50 57 17
7 Liverpool 38 16 9 13 56 49 57 7
8 Wimbledon 36 14 10 12 43 46 52 -3
9 Aston Villa 37 13 12 12 39 37 51 2
10 Q.P.R. 35 14 8 13 54 53 50 1
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13.513 | Up to date | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Mon Apr 18 1994 15:24 | 46 |
| Wed 13th
Q.P.R. 1 - 1 Chelsea
Sat 16th
Arsenal 1 - 0 Chelsea
Coventry City 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Swindon Town
Liverpool 0 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Man. City 1 - 1 Norwich City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Q.P.R. 2 - 1 Everton
Sheffield Utd. 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Southampton 3 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Wimbledon 1 - 0 Man. Utd.
Sun 17th
Leeds Utd. 2 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 37 23 10 4 72 37 79 35
2 Blackburn Rovers 38 24 7 7 59 32 79 27
3 Newcastle Utd. 38 20 8 10 72 36 68 36
4 Arsenal 37 17 15 5 49 21 66 28
5 Leeds Utd. 37 16 14 7 54 34 62 20
6 Sheffield Wed. 38 15 13 10 68 51 58 17
7 Liverpool 39 16 9 14 56 51 57 5
8 Wimbledon 37 15 10 12 44 46 55 -2
9 Aston Villa 38 14 12 12 41 38 54 3
10 Q.P.R. 37 15 9 13 57 55 54 2
11 Norwich City 39 11 16 12 63 59 49 4
12 Coventry City 38 12 12 14 39 43 48 -4
13 West Ham Utd. 37 12 11 14 40 51 47 -11
14 Chelsea 37 11 10 16 40 46 43 -6
15 Man. City 39 9 16 14 35 44 43 -9
16 Ipswich Town 39 9 15 15 34 51 42 -17
17 Everton 39 11 7 21 39 58 40 -19
18 Tottenham Hotspur 38 9 12 17 47 55 39 -8
19 Southampton 38 11 6 21 42 57 39 -15
20 Oldham Athletic 36 9 10 17 38 58 37 -20
21 Sheffield Utd. 38 6 17 15 36 56 35 -20
22 Swindon Town 38 4 15 19 42 88 27 -46
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13.514 | ? | YUPPY::PANES | Back in the Premier | Wed Apr 20 1994 21:22 | 6 |
|
Has anybody ever drunk or seen on sale "Scorpion Dry Lager" as advertised
at loads of football grounds?
Stuart
|
13.515 | Results | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Mon Apr 25 1994 15:14 | 43 |
| Sat
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Arsenal
Chelsea 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Everton 0 - 0 Coventry City
Man. Utd. 2 - 0 Man. City
Newcastle Utd. 3 - 2 Oldham Athletic
Norwich City 0 - 1 Sheffield Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 5 - 0 Ipswich Town
Swindon Town 2 - 4 Wimbledon
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 0 Southampton
West Ham Utd. 1 - 2 Liverpool
Sun
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 1 Q.P.R.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 38 24 10 4 74 37 82 37
2 Blackburn Rovers 39 24 8 7 60 33 80 27
3 Newcastle Utd. 39 21 8 10 75 38 71 37
4 Arsenal 39 18 16 5 52 23 70 29
5 Leeds Utd. 38 16 15 7 55 35 63 20
6 Sheffield Wed. 39 16 13 10 73 51 61 22
7 Liverpool 40 17 9 14 58 52 60 6
8 Wimbledon 39 16 11 12 49 49 59 0
9 Q.P.R. 38 15 10 13 58 56 55 2
10 Aston Villa 39 14 12 13 42 40 54 2
11 Norwich City 40 11 16 13 63 60 49 3
12 Coventry City 39 12 13 14 39 43 49 -4
13 West Ham Utd. 38 12 11 15 41 53 47 -12
14 Chelsea 38 11 11 16 41 47 44 -6
15 Man. City 40 9 16 15 35 46 43 -11
16 Tottenham Hotspur 39 10 12 17 50 55 42 -5
17 Ipswich Town 40 9 15 16 34 56 42 -22
18 Everton 40 11 8 21 39 58 41 -19
19 Southampton 39 11 6 22 42 60 39 -18
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
20 Sheffield Utd. 39 7 17 15 37 56 38 -19
21 Oldham Athletic 37 9 10 18 40 61 37 -21
22 Swindon Town 39 4 15 20 44 92 27 -48 relegated
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13.516 | Playoff picture? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Tue May 03 1994 21:07 | 6 |
| Any new tables or at least the relegation/promotion battles from
the other divisions.
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.517 | Swindon, Ipswich & Everton - Endsleigh 94/5 | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Some Fantastic Place | Wed May 04 1994 12:32 | 10 |
| First Division: Champions Crystal Palace
Runners Up N Forest
Play Offs Millwall, Derby, Leicester,
Tranmere (Order not final yet)
Relegated Peterboro plus two from:
Oxford (46pts), B'ham (48), WBA(48)
Paul
|
13.518 | Can't win them all | YR2000::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Wed May 04 1994 17:45 | 13 |
| Paul
thanks that's a bit of good news and a bit of bad news. I was hoping
that the Scummers would get relegated so Portsmouth could give them
a good thrashing next season and show thm who's the best team on the
south coast.
But at least with Sheff Utd staying up they have to give Cardiff another
50,000 pounds for Nathan Blake.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.519 | | R2ME2::HINXMAN | It's waiting for it that's so trying | Wed May 04 1994 17:52 | 7 |
| To misquote Bill Shankly, the best teams on the South Coast are
Southampton and Southampton Reserves.
BTW At one point Portsmouth decided they were so skint they could
not afford a reserve team. Did they ever reinstate it?
Tony
|
13.520 | Reality | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Some Fantastic Place | Wed May 04 1994 18:03 | 21 |
| Andrew,
My premiership relegation bets are just that - my best bet. The current
position is:
Man City P41 Pts44 GD-11
Spurs 40 42 - 6
Soton 40 42 -15
Sheff Utd 41 42 -17
Ipswich 41 42 -23
---------------------------------
Everton 41 41 -22
Oldham 40 39 -24
Swindon 41 30 -48
Soton play Man Utd away tonight, and Oldham play Spurs tomorrow. Not
sure of Sautrday's fixtures but I know that Everton have Wimbledon at
home and Ipswich are away at Bburn Rovers. I think Soton are away at
West Ham.
Paul
|
13.521 | It looks like goal difference will decide | NEWOA::FIDO_T | Conation is the key | Wed May 04 1994 18:48 | 5 |
| If Oldham beat Spurs tomorrow and Saints lose to United tonight ( both
looking very likely I'd say ), that will leave 5 teams on 42 points
with Everton on 41. Has relegation ever been that close before ?
Terry
|
13.522 | | YUPPY::PANES | Its national cake awareness week | Wed May 04 1994 18:52 | 13 |
| <<< Note 13.521 by NEWOA::FIDO_T "Conation is the key" >>>
-< It looks like goal difference will decide >-
> If Oldham beat Spurs tomorrow and Saints lose to United tonight ( both
> looking very likely I'd say ), that will leave 5 teams on 42 points
> with Everton on 41. Has relegation ever been that close before ?
> Terry
Amazing innit... the F.E.s got relegated with 49 oints last year. This
year that just a few places away from Europe.
Stuart
|
13.523 | Nice one Stuart.... | BERN01::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon | Wed May 04 1994 18:59 | 12 |
|
Come on Stuart....
>> Amazing innit... the F.E.s got relegated with 49 oints last year. This
>> year that just a few places away from Europe.
>>
>> Stuart
the first UEFA place (Blackburn) are on 80 points, a few more than 49!
8-)
JBG
|
13.524 | | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Thu May 05 1994 16:23 | 27 |
| Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 41 27 10 4 80 38 91 42
2 Blackburn Rovers 41 25 8 8 63 36 83 27
3 Newcastle Utd. 41 22 8 11 80 41 74 39
4 Arsenal 41 18 17 6 53 26 71 27
5 Leeds Utd. 41 17 16 8 60 39 67 21
6 Wimbledon 41 18 11 12 54 50 65 4
7 Sheffield Wed. 41 16 15 10 75 53 63 22
8 Liverpool 41 17 9 15 58 53 60 5
9 Q.P.R. 41 15 12 14 60 60 57 0
10 Coventry City 41 14 13 14 43 45 55 -2
11 Aston Villa 41 14 12 15 44 49 54 -5
12 Norwich City 41 12 16 13 64 60 52 4
13 West Ham Utd. 41 13 12 16 44 55 51 -11
14 Chelsea 41 12 12 17 46 51 48 -5
15 Man. City 41 9 17 15 37 48 44 -11
16 Tottenham Hotspur 40 10 12 18 51 57 42 -6
17 Southampton 41 12 6 23 46 63 42 -17
18 Ipswich Town 41 9 15 17 35 58 42 -23
19 Sheffield Utd. 41 8 18 15 40 57 42 -17
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
20 Everton 41 11 8 22 39 61 41 -22
21 Oldham Athletic 40 9 12 19 41 65 39 -24
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
22 Swindon Town 41 5 15 21 47 95 30 -48
|
13.525 | this could be important come 4:45 on Saturday ... | BERN01::SWIB01::WRIGHT | | Thu May 05 1994 17:52 | 6 |
|
re. -1 why are Ipswich above Sheffield Utd. when their goal difference is
worse ? Shouldn't Sheffield Utd. (gd -17) be above Ipswich (gd -23) and
Southampton (gd -17 but fewer goals scored) ?
Ray
|
13.526 | Well spotted Ray, the treatment appears to be working ... | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Thu May 05 1994 17:57 | 6 |
| Yeah, and why are Spurs above Swindon, Oldham, Everton, Ipswich,
Southampton and Sheffield United ? Spurs don't deserve to feature on
the same league table as teams of this class !!! Why wait till
Saturday, relegate them now !!!
Jerry.
|
13.527 | OK,OK Mistake made....:-) | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Thu May 05 1994 18:16 | 27 |
| Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 41 27 10 4 80 38 91 42
2 Blackburn Rovers 41 25 8 8 63 36 83 27
3 Newcastle Utd. 41 22 8 11 80 41 74 39
4 Arsenal 41 18 17 6 53 26 71 27
5 Leeds Utd. 41 17 16 8 60 39 67 21
6 Wimbledon 41 18 11 12 54 50 65 4
7 Sheffield Wed. 41 16 15 10 75 53 63 22
8 Liverpool 41 17 9 15 58 53 60 5
9 Q.P.R. 41 15 12 14 60 60 57 0
10 Coventry City 41 14 13 14 43 45 55 -2
11 Aston Villa 41 14 12 15 44 49 54 -5
12 Norwich City 41 12 16 13 64 60 52 4
13 West Ham Utd. 41 13 12 16 44 55 51 -11
14 Chelsea 41 12 12 17 46 51 48 -5
15 Man. City 41 9 17 15 37 48 44 -11
16 Tottenham Hotspur 40 10 12 18 51 57 42 -6
17 Southampton 41 12 6 23 46 63 42 -17
18 Sheffield Utd. 41 8 18 15 40 57 42 -17
19 Ipswich Town 41 9 15 17 35 58 42 -23
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
20 Everton 41 11 8 22 39 61 41 -22
21 Oldham Athletic 40 9 12 19 41 65 39 -24
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
22 Swindon Town 41 5 15 21 47 95 30 -48
|
13.528 | thanks ... | BERN01::SWIB01::WRIGHT | | Thu May 05 1994 19:25 | 10 |
| thanks for the clarification, i'd rather see Ipswich go down (no reason, just one
of those irrational pet hates you develop as a football supporter).
Of course as a life-long Spurs fan i'd REALLY rather see Arsenal go down, but...
perhaps they could be relegated for being flash g*ts who've actually won
something in the past few seasons :-)
No danger of Spurs getting relegated if that was the criteria.
Ray
|
13.529 | sat? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Thu May 05 1994 21:27 | 5 |
| anyone know who oldham and sheff u play on sat.
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.530 | Should give us a tougher game than last week | JONPC1::Button | Jon Button @REO | Thu May 05 1994 22:09 | 6 |
| Oldham play Norwich at Carrow Road. Dunno about Sheff United.
Jon
|
13.531 | Victories for Oldham, Everton and Sheff U please | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Thu May 05 1994 23:27 | 8 |
| jon,
thanks and i'd like to assure that I will only be cheering against
Norwich on the grounds that I want the Scummers to go down ...
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.532 | Sheff Utd play Chelsea on Saturday | NEWOA::FIDO_T | Conation is the key | Fri May 06 1994 13:28 | 1 |
|
|
13.533 | Update | KERNEL::MCKEAVENEYJ | Shy Ann (Indian Virgin) | Fri May 06 1994 14:14 | 29 |
| 6th May '94; Oldham 0-2 Tottenham
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 41 27 10 4 80 38 91 42
2 Blackburn Rovers 41 25 8 8 63 36 83 27
3 Newcastle Utd. 41 22 8 11 80 41 74 39
4 Arsenal 41 18 17 6 53 26 71 27
5 Leeds Utd. 41 17 16 8 60 39 67 21
6 Wimbledon 41 18 11 12 54 50 65 4
7 Sheffield Wed. 41 16 15 10 75 53 63 22
8 Liverpool 41 17 9 15 58 53 60 5
9 Q.P.R. 41 15 12 14 60 60 57 0
10 Coventry City 41 14 13 14 43 45 55 -2
11 Aston Villa 41 14 12 15 44 49 54 -5
12 Norwich City 41 12 16 13 64 60 52 4
13 West Ham Utd. 41 13 12 16 44 55 51 -11
14 Chelsea 41 12 12 17 46 51 48 -5
15 Tottenham Hotspur 41 11 12 18 53 57 45 -4
16 Man. City 41 9 17 15 37 48 44 -11
17 Southampton 41 12 6 23 46 63 42 -17
18 Sheffield Utd. 41 8 18 15 40 57 42 -17
19 Ipswich Town 41 9 15 17 35 58 42 -23
-----------------------------------------------------------------
20 Everton 41 11 8 22 39 61 41 -22
21 Oldham Athletic 41 9 12 20 41 67 39 -26
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
22 Swindon Town 41 5 15 21 47 95 30 -48
|
13.534 | No Boundary park revenge for Palace next year! | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Some Fantastic Place | Fri May 06 1994 14:37 | 8 |
| So - our old friends at Palace - OLDHAM - have to win to stay up, away
at Norwich, and Everton *could* scrape a draw as long as Ipswich lose.
Realistically, Man City are out of it now with only Everton capable of
putting them into the bottom 3 and a net 11 benefit on GD.
My money would be on Oldham and Everton.
Paul
|
13.535 | Spurs safe. | UPROAR::LEMP | Live slow, die young | Fri May 06 1994 15:09 | 6 |
| Can't see Oldham getting out now. Pity really because there are quite a
few clubs that I'd rather see go down. The other will be Ipswich or
Everton, I think.
Paul.
|
13.536 | The Big Club debate again. | UPROAR::LEMP | Live slow, die young | Fri May 06 1994 15:24 | 14 |
| Talking of Everton and Spurs in the relegation struggle, do they still
qualify for membership of The Big Five.
My current list would have only four members : Manu, Leeds, Liverpool
and Arsenal, in no particular order.
Everton and Spurs would need a couple of seasons of good performances
and a trophy or two to get back in. The young pretenders are Blackburn,
Newcastle and (maybe) Wednesday. Man City have the potential and Villa
are verging on membership but need to consolidate on the last two
seasons.
Paul.
|
13.537 | Come on ! | KIRKTN::JJACK | | Fri May 06 1994 21:47 | 4 |
|
I'd hardly call Leeds United a big club !
|
13.538 | anyone out there WITHOUT a radio ? | BERN01::SWIB01::WRIGHT | | Sat May 07 1994 19:58 | 10 |
| important half times at the bottom of the premiership...
blackburn 0 - 0 ipswich
chelsea 0 - 1 sheffield utd
everton 1 - 2 wimbledon
norwich 0 - 1 oldham
west ham 1 - 1 southampton
Ray
|
13.539 | oldham and sheffield utd go down with swindon | BERN01::SWIB01::WRIGHT | | Sat May 07 1994 20:52 | 10 |
| full times...
blackburn 0 - 0 ipswich
chelsea 3 - 2 sheffield utd (sheffield lose to last minute goal by stein)
everton 3 - 2 wimbledon (everton come back from 0-2 down)
norwich 1 - 1 oldham
west ham 2 - 3 southampton (latest - play stopped due to pitch invasion)
Ray
|
13.540 | Just the odd question or 3 | PETRUS::GUEST_N | | Mon May 09 1994 16:40 | 15 |
|
Has anyone got the 1st division scores from Sunday ?
Also what happened with Man U Vs Coventry
Also (!), have the league relented and decided to allow Kidderminster
there rightful place in Div 3 ?
Ta
Nigel
|
13.541 | United 0 Coventry 0 | CODIN::PHAYDEN | | Mon May 09 1994 17:39 | 14 |
| Div 1.
Bolton 0 Barnsley 0
Bristol 0 Peterbrough 0
Charlton 2 Middlesbrough 5
C. Palace 0 Watford 2
Grimsby 0 Milwall 0
Nots. Forest 2 Sunderland 2
Oxford 2 Nots. County 1
Protsmouth 0 WBA 1
Sth. End 4 Derby 3
Stoke 2 Luton 2
Tranmere 1 Birmingham 2
Wolves 1 Leicester 1
|
13.542 | | CHEFS::HARRISR | Ave you gota loit boy ? | Mon May 09 1994 18:01 | 10 |
| I could have sworn, as I watched the highlights from Ashton Gate
yesterday afternoon, that Junior Bent scored within 13 seconds against
Peterborough, and that he scored another, with his head. Then from the
start of the second half Bristol City scored another, with Peterborough
replying, with a goal themselves. City then scored another, by the
bloke who scored the 3rd (with his first touch). With the score ending
up 4 - 1 to Bristol City, which differs somewhat from the 0 - 0 entered
in the -1.
Rich.
|
13.543 | And it wasn't even 0-0 at half time | CODIN::PHAYDEN | | Mon May 09 1994 18:40 | 13 |
| Well you know what ? You're dead right Rich, I messed up.
Sorry 'bout that,
Bristol 4 Peterborough 1
is the correct result.
Peter.
P.S I hope the rest are correct.
|
13.544 | Final standings | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Mon May 09 1994 20:12 | 87 |
| Results from the last few weeks & Final Table
Newcastle Utd. 5 - 1 Aston Villa
Leeds Utd. 0 - 2 Man. Utd.
West Ham Utd. 1 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Chelsea 2 - 0 Swindon Town
Q.P.R. 1 - 1 Arsenal
Wimbledon 3 - 0 Oldham Athletic
Sat 30th Apr
Arsenal 0 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Leeds Utd. 3 - 0 Everton
Liverpool 0 - 1 Norwich City
Man. City 2 - 2 Chelsea
Oldham Athletic 0 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Q.P.R. 1 - 3 Swindon Town
Sheffield Utd. 2 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Southampton 4 - 1 Aston Villa
Wimbledon 2 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Sun 1st May
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Man. Utd.
Mon 2nd May
Coventry City 2 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Tues 3rd May
Leeds Utd. 2 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Oldham Athletic 0 - 0 Sheffield Utd.
Q.P.R. 0 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Wed 4th May
Chelsea 1 - 2 Coventry City
Man. Utd. 2 - 0 Southampton
Thur 5th May
Oldham Athletic 0 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Sat 7th May
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Liverpool
Blackburn Rovers 0 - 0 Ipswich Town
Chelsea 3 - 2 Sheffield Utd.
Everton 3 - 2 Wimbledon
Man. Utd. 0 - 0 Coventry City
Newcastle Utd. 2 - 0 Arsenal
Norwich City 1 - 1 Oldham Athletic
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Man. City
Swindon Town 0 - 5 Leeds Utd.
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 2 Q.P.R.
West Ham Utd. 3 - 3 Southampton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 42 27 11 4 80 38 92 42 EURO Cup
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2 Blackburn Rovers 42 25 9 8 63 36 84 27 UEFA
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3 Newcastle Utd. 42 23 8 11 82 41 77 41 UEFA ????
4 Arsenal 42 18 17 7 53 28 71 25 CWC
5 Leeds Utd. 42 18 16 8 65 39 70 26
6 Wimbledon 42 18 11 13 56 53 65 3
7 Sheffield Wed. 42 16 16 10 76 54 64 22
8 Liverpool 42 17 9 16 59 55 60 4
9 Q.P.R. 42 16 12 14 62 61 60 1
10 Aston Villa 42 15 12 15 46 50 57 -4 UEFA
11 Coventry City 42 14 14 14 43 45 56 -2
12 Norwich City 42 12 17 13 65 61 53 4
13 West Ham Utd. 42 13 13 16 47 58 52 -11
14 Chelsea 42 13 12 17 49 53 51 -4 CWC
15 Tottenham Hotspur 42 11 12 19 54 59 45 -5
16 Man. City 42 9 18 15 38 49 45 -11
17 Everton 42 12 8 22 42 63 44 -21
18 Southampton 42 12 7 23 49 66 43 -17
19 Ipswich Town 42 9 16 17 35 58 43 -23
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20 Sheffield Utd. 42 8 18 16 41 59 42 -18
21 Oldham Athletic 42 9 13 20 41 67 40 -26
22 Swindon Town 42 5 15 22 47 100 30 -53
Newcastle will find out in July whether they get the other UEFA place.
|
13.545 | Div 1 top of the table? | STAR::CASSILY | | Tue May 10 1994 06:48 | 4 |
| What was the top of the table from Div 1? Which teams get the automatic
promotion, and which teams are in the playoffs?
Mike
|
13.546 | Div 1 Status | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Some Fantastic Place | Tue May 10 1994 12:09 | 11 |
| As previously stated, but I'll say it again cos its brilliant....
Champions (by a 7 point margin) Crystal Palace
Runners Up Forest
Play Offs Millwall vs Derby
Tranmere vs Leicester
Relegated Peterborough, Oxford, Birmingham
Paul
|
13.547 | but of course chelsea will win. | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Fri May 13 1994 06:48 | 6 |
| Wouldn't it be ironic if a team that finished 14th and didn't win any
cups qualified for a european competition??
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.548 | question | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Mon May 16 1994 23:11 | 1 |
| what dates are the playoff games?
|
13.549 | Scores from 1st leg | BUSSTP::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Tue May 17 1994 01:25 | 25 |
|
Played Sunday May 15, 1st leg
1st Division
Derby 2 Millwall 0
Tranmere 0 Leicester 0
2nd Division
Burnley 0 Plymouth 0
York 0 Stockport 0
3rd Division
Carlisle 0 Wycombe 2
Torquay 2 Preston 0
Danny.
|
13.550 | | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Tue May 17 1994 16:33 | 8 |
| The return matches are tomorrow, I think, with the finals over the 28-30
holiday weekend.
Leicester and Tranmere have got this playoff thing sussed - the way to do it
is get to Wembley and lose. Swindon have failed to do this twice, and look
what's happened to them! Get your money on Derby!
grahame
|
13.551 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | NYC,June 18 - ITA 0 - 2 RoI | Thu May 19 1994 13:20 | 5 |
| Football hooliganism reared its ugly head last night at the
Millwall-Derby match. Some Millwall `fans' invaded the pitch and
attacked 2 Derby players....
Morons....
|
13.552 | Is it all over yet.? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Mon May 23 1994 21:38 | 7 |
| OK what state are the playoffs at - who's left and when are the finals.
the U.S definitely needs Harkes back soon.
Regards,
Andrew.D.wicks
|
13.553 | Nearly there | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | | Tue May 24 1994 14:26 | 14 |
| Sat - Div 3 final
Wycombe v Preston
Sun - Div 2 final
Stockport v Burnley
Mon - Div 1 Final
Derby v Leicester
All at Wembley
|
13.554 | First result | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Sun May 29 1994 15:45 | 7 |
| Wycombe have won promotion after their first season in the Football League,
after beating Preston 4-2 at Wembley.
Congratulations to them. Yet more ammo for the "Non-League teams are better"
crowd!
g
|
13.555 | Second result. | PAKORA::ISUTHERLAND | I'll be forever blue... | Mon May 30 1994 00:11 | 6 |
|
2nd div play-off Final result:
Burnley 2 Stockport 1
Stockport had two players sent off.
|
13.556 | | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Mon May 30 1994 13:49 | 5 |
| > Stockport had two players sent off.
One for spitting, the other for stamping. What a nice bunch of lads.
g
|
13.557 | Last one up? | ASDG::JOHNSON | | Wed Jun 01 1994 22:00 | 6 |
| What was the outcome of the Derby County - Leicester
match played Monday night at Wembley? Did John Harkes
play for Derby? He hasn't been able to report to the
US team because of his commitments to Derby.....
Jerry
|
13.558 | | KIRKTN::GMCDONALD | The United Men of Ayr | Thu Jun 02 1994 02:44 | 8 |
|
Derby lost 2-1 after being 1 up.The match was watched by around
70,000 I think ...
Don't know if Harkes played .
Graeme..
|
13.559 | And that would have killed the tie ! | PAKORA::JJACK | | Thu Jun 02 1994 03:03 | 3 |
|
Sal...He did & missed a sitter !
|
13.560 | And they're off... | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Aug 22 1994 18:11 | 66 |
| Sat 20th
Arsenal 3 - 0 Man. City
Chelsea 2 - 0 Norwich City
Coventry City 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Crystal Palace 1 - 6 Liverpool
Everton 2 - 2 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 0 - 1 Nott'm Forest
Man. Utd. 2 - 0 Q.P.R.
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 4 Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton 1 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
West Ham Utd. 0 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Sun 21st
Leicester City 1 - 3 Newcastle Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Liverpool 1 1 0 0 6 1 3 5
2 Arsenal 1 1 0 0 3 0 3 3
3 Newcastle Utd. 1 1 0 0 3 1 3 2
4 Chelsea 1 1 0 0 2 0 3 2
5 Man. Utd. 1 1 0 0 2 0 3 2
6 Tottenham Hotspur 1 1 0 0 4 3 3 1
7 Nott'm Forest 1 1 0 0 1 0 3 1
8 Aston Villa 1 0 1 0 2 2 1 0
9 Everton 1 0 1 0 2 2 1 0
10 Blackburn Rovers 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0
11 Coventry City 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0
12 Southampton 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0
13 Wimbledon 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0
14 Leeds Utd. 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0
15 West Ham Utd. 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0
16 Sheffield Wed. 1 0 0 1 3 4 0 -1
17 Ipswich Town 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1
18 Leicester City 1 0 0 1 1 3 0 -2
19 Norwich City 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 -2
20 Q.P.R. 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 -2
21 Man. City 1 0 0 1 0 3 0 -3
22 Crystal Palace 1 0 0 1 1 6 0 -5
Midweek games:
Mon 22 Aug 94
Nottingham Forest - Manchester United
Tue 23 Aug 94
Blackburn Rovers - Leicester City
Leeds United - Arsenal
Wimbledon - Ipswich Town
Wed 24 Aug 94
Aston Villa - Southampton
Liverpool - Chelsea
Manchester City - West Ham United
Newcastle United - Coventry City
Norwich City - Crystal Palace
Queen's Park Rangers - Sheffield Wednesday
Tottenham Hotspur - Everton
|
13.561 | Rush ahead? | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Mon Aug 22 1994 18:34 | 3 |
| Leading league scorers anyone?
/JF
|
13.562 | | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Resonate some understanding | Mon Aug 22 1994 19:33 | 3 |
| Rush and McManaman have both got two.
Mike
|
13.563 | Updated Premier League standings | YUPPY::PANES | M.A.B. its big horse, I'm a Londoner | Mon Aug 22 1994 20:12 | 26 |
| Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Liverpool 1 1 0 0 6 1 3 5
2 Arsenal 1 1 0 0 3 0 3 3
3 Newcastle Utd. 1 1 0 0 3 1 3 2
4 Chelsea 1 1 0 0 2 0 3 2
5 Man. Utd. 1 1 0 0 2 0 3 2
6 Nott'm Forest 1 1 0 0 1 0 3 1
7 Aston Villa 1 0 1 0 2 2 1 0
8 Everton 1 0 1 0 2 2 1 0
9 Blackburn Rovers 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0
10 Coventry City 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0
11 Southampton 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0
12 Wimbledon 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0
13 Leeds Utd. 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0
14 West Ham Utd. 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0
15 Sheffield Wed. 1 0 0 1 3 4 0 -1
16 Ipswich Town 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1
17 Leicester City 1 0 0 1 1 3 0 -2
18 Norwich City 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 -2
19 Q.P.R. 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 -2
20 Man. City 1 0 0 1 0 3 0 -3
21 Crystal Palace 1 0 0 1 1 6 0 -5
22 Tottenham Hotspur 1 1 0 0 4 3 -3 1
|
13.564 | | XSTACY::MDUNPHY | Just another Day!! | Mon Aug 22 1994 20:22 | 1 |
| You'd do anything to keep Palace off the bottom!!!!
|
13.565 | Surely not | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Brazil v Italy - I was there! | Mon Aug 22 1994 22:39 | 2 |
| I thought the points were'nt deducted til the end of the season
so can we have Palace back at the bottom please.
|
13.566 | | GLADYS::CRAVEN | A McBodybag | Tue Aug 23 1994 12:11 | 3 |
| Is there anywhere where I can get the draw for this season
electronically for all teams, by week?
Ica
|
13.567 | | MARVIN::MORRELL | Baby.. Baby.. We change... anything we want too... | Tue Aug 23 1994 12:14 | 5 |
| Ica.. you realize don't you that this is not Australian Rules
Football.. ;->>
Rick. ( What out you Aussie cricket fans.. Malcolm & Benjamin are
coming to get ya... ;->> )
|
13.568 | Mal and Ben flowerpot men | GLADYS::CRAVEN | A McBodybag | Wed Aug 24 1994 04:04 | 3 |
| Thanks to Fowlerm for the draw,
oh, and Rick, see you at the SCG first week of January, where you will
be handed the thrashing you so thoroughly deserve.
|
13.569 | Recent results and table??? | MOVIES::PLAYFORD | Kevin @ EDO-13 [DTN:824-3394] | Wed Aug 31 1994 14:38 | 9 |
| Is/does anyone have the results from the last three games in the
Premier League??
If so, will they post them here in this note, please.
Secondly, is anyone keeping the Premier League Table up to date with
the Dezz Cassidy League Update package (;-))??
/Kev
|
13.570 | | SHIPS::EDWARDS_D | | Wed Aug 31 1994 14:45 | 7 |
| Last nights results :
Palace 1 Leeds 2
Everton 1 Forest 2
Ipswich 1 Tottingham 3
Forest are top of the table (for now).
|
13.571 | For Reference..... | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Wed Aug 31 1994 16:50 | 79 |
|
These are the results from week 1 of the league in ENGLAND
Arsenal 3-0 Manchester City
Chelsea 2-0 Norwich City
Coventry City 1-1 Wimbledon
Crystal Palace 1-6 Liverpool
Everton 2-2 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 0-1 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 1-3 Newcastle United
Manchester United 2-0 Queens Park Rangers
Sheffield Wednesday 3-4 Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton 1-1 Blackburn Rover
West Ham United 0-0 Leeds United
These are the results from week 2 of the league in ENGLAND
Aston Villa 1-1 Southampton
Blackburn Rover 3-0 Leicester City
Leeds United 1-0 Arsenal
Liverpool v Chelsea
Manchester City 3-0 West Ham United
Manchester United 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Newcastle United 4-0 Coventry City
Norwich City 0-0 Crystal Palace
Queens Park Rangers 3-2 Sheffield Wednesday
Tottenham Hotspur 2-1 Everton
Wimbledon 1-1 Ipswich Town
These are the results from week 3 of the league in ENGLAND
Aston Villa 1-1 Crystal Palace
Blackburn Rover 4-0 Coventry City
Leeds United 2-3 Chelsea
Liverpool 3-0 Arsenal
Manchester City 4-0 Everton
Newcastle United 5-1 Southampton
Norwich City 1-0 West Ham United
Nottingham Forest 1-0 Leicester City
Queens Park Rangers 1-2 Ipswich Town
Tottenham Hotspur 0-1 Manchester United
Wimbledon 0-1 Sheffield Wednesday
These are the results from week 4 of the league in ENGLAND
Arsenal v Blackburn Rover
Chelsea v Manchester City
Coventry City 0-1 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 1-2 Leeds United
Everton 1-2 Nottingham Forest
Ipswich Town 1-3 Tottenham Hotspur
Leicester City v Queens Park Rangers
Manchester United v Wimbledon
Sheffield Wednesday v Norwich City
Southampton v Liverpool
West Ham United v Newcastle United
This is the League Table from ENGLAND after 4 rounds of matches
Team Name P W D L GF GA PF PA
Nottingham Forest 4 3 1 0 5 2 10 2
Newcastle United 3 3 0 0 12 2 9 0
Tottenham Hotspur 4 3 0 1 9 6 9 3
Blackburn Rover 3 2 1 0 8 1 7 2
Manchester United 3 2 1 0 4 1 7 2
Leeds United 4 2 1 1 5 4 7 5
Liverpool 2 2 0 0 9 1 6 0
Chelsea 2 2 0 0 5 2 6 0
Manchester City 3 2 0 1 7 3 6 3
Aston Villa 4 1 3 0 5 4 6 6
Norwich City 3 1 1 1 1 2 4 5
Ipswich Town 4 1 1 2 4 6 4 8
Sheffield Wednesday 3 1 0 2 6 7 3 6
Arsenal 3 1 0 2 3 4 3 6
Queens Park Rangers 3 1 0 2 4 6 3 6
Wimbledon 3 0 2 1 2 3 2 7
Southampton 3 0 2 1 3 7 2 7
Crystal Palace 4 0 2 2 3 9 2 10
West Ham United 3 0 1 2 0 4 1 8
Everton 4 0 1 3 4 10 1 11
Coventry City 4 0 1 3 1 10 1 11
Leicester City 3 0 0 3 1 7 0 9
|
13.572 | Volunteer required please. | MOVIES::PLAYFORD | Kevin @ EDO-13 [DTN:824-3394] | Wed Aug 31 1994 19:08 | 12 |
|
Can we have a volunteer to enter the Premier Results and updated
table please.
Dezz has a piece of software to assist you in this task. See his previous
reply for an example of its output.
Willing volunteers should mail Dezz on GYMAC::DCASSIDY to acquire
a copy of his results input software.
Regards
/Kev
|
13.573 | ... or is this a feature? | TUXEDO::HINXMAN | I've got a little list | Wed Sep 07 1994 01:20 | 9 |
| If .571 was generated by Dezz's software, he needs to fix it.
It appears to be calculating "Points Against" as
(3 * GamesPlayed - PointsFor")
This is wrong, as if a match is drawn, only 1 point is awarded to the
opposing team. The correct formula is something like
(3 * GamesLost + GamesDrawn).
Tony
|
13.574 | | RTOVC0::DCASSIDY | | Wed Sep 07 1994 12:27 | 10 |
|
Tony,
Good point...This was originally for the German Bundesliga where
the two formulas you entered would yield the same result. The column I
suppose should read "Points dropped" thus you drop 2 points in a draw.
Effectively the sum of points for and 'against' (dropped) should be
games played * points per win.
Dezzz.
|
13.575 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Thu Sep 08 1994 17:30 | 7 |
| I'll do it (like I did last year, and the year before..)
and I've got my own program. so nerr!!!
:-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Al
|
13.576 | Here we go!! | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Sep 12 1994 18:22 | 69 |
| Rest of week 4 results
Arsenal 0 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Chelsea 3 - 0 Man. City
Leicester City 1 - 1 Q.P.R.
Man. Utd. 3 - 0 Wimbledon
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 0 Norwich City
Southampton 0 - 2 Liverpool
West Ham Utd. 1 - 3 Newcastle Utd.
Sat 10th Sept.
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Blackburn Rovers 3 - 0 Everton
Liverpool 0 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Man. City 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle Utd. 4 - 2 Chelsea
Norwich City 0 - 0 Arsenal
Nott'm Forest 4 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Q.P.R. 2 - 2 Coventry City
Wimbledon 2 - 1 Leicester City
Sun 11th Sept.
Leeds Utd. 2 - 1 Man. Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Newcastle Utd. 5 5 0 0 19 5 15 14
2 Nott'm Forest 5 4 1 0 9 3 13 6
3 Blackburn Rovers 5 3 2 0 11 1 11 10
4 Liverpool 4 3 1 0 11 1 10 10
5 Man. Utd. 5 3 1 1 8 3 10 5
6 Leeds Utd. 5 3 1 1 7 5 10 2
7 Chelsea 4 3 0 1 10 6 9 4
8 Tottenham Hotspur 4 3 0 1 9 6 9 3
9 Aston Villa 5 2 3 0 7 4 9 3
10 Man. City 5 2 1 2 8 7 7 1
11 Norwich City 5 1 3 1 1 2 6 -1
12 Arsenal 5 1 2 2 3 4 5 -1
13 Q.P.R. 5 1 2 2 7 9 5 -2
14 Wimbledon 5 1 2 2 4 7 5 -3
15 Sheffield Wed. 5 1 1 3 7 11 4 -4
16 Ipswich Town 5 1 1 3 4 8 4 -4
17 Crystal Palace 5 0 3 2 4 10 3 -6
18 Southampton 4 0 2 2 3 9 2 -6
19 West Ham Utd. 5 0 2 3 1 7 2 -6
20 Coventry City 5 0 2 3 3 12 2 -9
21 Leicester City 5 0 1 4 3 10 1 -7
22 Everton 5 0 1 4 4 13 1 -9
This Evening
Tottenham Hotspur - Southampton
Next weekend
Arsenal - Newcastle United
Chelsea - Blackburn Rovers
Coventry City - Leeds United
Crystal Palace - Wimbledon
Everton - Queen's Park Rangers
Ipswich Town - Norwich City
Leicester City - Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester United - Liverpool
Sheffield Wednesday - Manchester City
Southampton - Nottingham Forest
West Ham United - Aston Villa
|
13.577 | Week 6 - revisited | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Tue Sep 20 1994 17:33 | 46 |
| Sat 17th
Coventry City 2 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Wimbledon
Everton 2 - 2 Q.P.R.
Leicester City 3 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Man. Utd. 2 - 0 Liverpool
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Man. City
Southampton 1 - 1 Nott'm Forest
West Ham Utd. 1 - 0 Aston Villa
Sun 18th
Arsenal 2 - 3 Newcastle Utd.
Chelsea 1 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Mon 20th
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Newcastle Utd. 6 6 0 0 22 7 18 15
2 Blackburn Rovers 6 4 2 0 13 2 14 11
3 Nott'm Forest 6 4 2 0 10 4 14 6
4 Man. Utd. 6 4 1 1 10 3 13 7
5 Liverpool 5 3 1 1 11 3 10 8
6 Leeds Utd. 6 3 1 2 7 6 10 1
7 Chelsea 5 3 0 2 11 8 9 3
8 Aston Villa 6 2 3 1 7 5 9 2
9 Tottenham Hotspur 6 3 0 3 11 11 9 0
10 Man. City 6 2 2 2 9 8 8 1
11 Norwich City 5 1 3 1 1 2 6 -1
12 Q.P.R. 6 1 3 2 9 11 6 -2
13 Wimbledon 6 1 3 2 4 7 6 -3
14 Southampton 6 1 3 2 6 11 6 -5
15 Arsenal 6 1 2 3 5 7 5 -2
16 Sheffield Wed. 6 1 2 3 8 12 5 -4
17 West Ham Utd. 6 1 2 3 2 7 5 -5
18 Coventry City 6 1 2 3 4 12 5 -8
19 Ipswich Town 5 1 1 3 4 8 4 -4
20 Leicester City 6 1 1 4 6 11 4 -5
21 Crystal Palace 6 0 4 2 4 10 4 -6
22 Everton 6 0 2 4 6 15 2 -9
|
13.578 | Week 7 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Sep 26 1994 15:50 | 44 |
| Sat 24th
Blackburn Rovers 3 - 1 Aston Villa
Coventry City 1 - 3 Southampton
Crystal Palace 0 - 1 Chelsea
Everton 1 - 1 Leicester City
Ipswich Town 3 - 2 Man. Utd.
Man. City 2 - 0 Norwich City
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 1 Liverpool
Q.P.R. 0 - 1 Wimbledon
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 4 Nott'm Forest
Sun 25th
West Ham Utd. 0 - 2 Arsenal
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Newcastle Utd. 7 6 1 0 23 8 19 15
2 Blackburn Rovers 7 5 2 0 16 3 17 13
3 Nott'm Forest 7 5 2 0 14 5 17 9
4 Man. Utd. 7 4 1 2 12 6 13 6
5 Chelsea 6 4 0 2 12 8 12 4
6 Liverpool 6 3 2 1 12 4 11 8
7 Man. City 7 3 2 2 11 8 11 3
8 Leeds Utd. 6 3 1 2 8 7 10 1
9 Aston Villa 7 2 3 2 8 8 9 0
10 Wimbledon 7 2 3 2 5 7 9 -2
11 Norwich City 7 2 3 2 3 5 9 -2
12 Tottenham Hotspur 7 3 0 4 12 15 9 -3
13 Southampton 7 2 3 2 9 12 9 -3
14 Arsenal 7 2 2 3 7 7 8 0
15 Ipswich Town 7 2 1 4 8 12 7 -4
16 Q.P.R. 7 1 3 3 9 12 6 -3
17 Sheffield Wed. 6 1 2 3 8 12 5 -4
18 Leicester City 7 1 2 4 7 12 5 -5
19 West Ham Utd. 7 1 2 4 2 9 5 -7
20 Coventry City 7 1 2 4 6 16 5 -10
21 Crystal Palace 7 0 4 3 4 11 4 -7
22 Everton 7 0 3 4 7 16 3 -9
Tonight: Sheffield Wed. v Leeds Utd.
|
13.579 | Up to date | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Tue Sep 27 1994 20:43 | 41 |
| Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Newcastle Utd. 7 6 1 0 23 8 19 15
2 Blackburn Rovers 7 5 2 0 16 3 17 13
3 Nott'm Forest 7 5 2 0 14 5 17 9
4 Man. Utd. 7 4 1 2 12 6 13 6
5 Chelsea 6 4 0 2 12 8 12 4
6 Liverpool 6 3 2 1 12 4 11 8
7 Man. City 7 3 2 2 11 8 11 3
8 Leeds Utd. 7 3 2 2 9 8 11 1
9 Aston Villa 7 2 3 2 8 8 9 0
10 Wimbledon 7 2 3 2 5 7 9 -2
11 Norwich City 7 2 3 2 3 5 9 -2
12 Tottenham Hotspur 7 3 0 4 12 15 9 -3
13 Southampton 7 2 3 2 9 12 9 -3
14 Arsenal 7 2 2 3 7 7 8 0
15 Ipswich Town 7 2 1 4 8 12 7 -4
16 Q.P.R. 7 1 3 3 9 12 6 -3
17 Sheffield Wed. 7 1 3 3 9 13 6 -4
18 Leicester City 7 1 2 4 7 12 5 -5
19 West Ham Utd. 7 1 2 4 2 9 5 -7
20 Coventry City 7 1 2 4 6 16 5 -10
21 Crystal Palace 7 0 4 3 4 11 4 -7
22 Everton 7 0 3 4 7 16 3 -9
Next weekends fixtures:
Arsenal - Crystal Palace
Aston Villa - Newcastle United
Chelsea - West Ham United
Leeds United - Manchester City
Leicester City - Coventry City
Liverpool - Sheffield Wednesday
Manchester United - Everton
Norwich City - Blackburn Rovers
Nottingham Forest - Queen's Park Rangers
Southampton - Ipswich Town
Wimbledon - Tottenham Hotspur
|
13.580 | Week 8 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Oct 03 1994 13:50 | 57 |
| Sat 1st Oct
Arsenal 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Aston Villa 0 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Leeds Utd. 2 - 0 Man. City
Liverpool 4 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Man. Utd. 2 - 0 Everton
Norwich City 2 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Southampton 3 - 1 Ipswich Town
Wimbledon 1 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Sun 2nd Oct
Chelsea 1 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Nott'm Forest 3 - 2 Q.P.R.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Newcastle Utd. 8 7 1 0 25 8 22 17
2 Nott'm Forest 8 6 2 0 17 7 20 10
3 Blackburn Rovers 8 5 2 1 17 5 17 12
4 Man. Utd. 8 5 1 2 14 6 16 8
5 Liverpool 7 4 2 1 16 5 14 11
6 Leeds Utd. 8 4 2 2 11 8 14 3
7 Chelsea 7 4 0 3 13 10 12 3
8 Southampton 8 3 3 2 12 13 12 -1
9 Norwich City 8 3 3 2 5 6 12 -1
10 Tottenham Hotspur 8 4 0 4 14 16 12 -2
11 Man. City 8 3 2 3 11 10 11 1
12 Aston Villa 8 2 3 3 8 10 9 -2
13 Wimbledon 8 2 3 3 6 9 9 -3
14 Arsenal 8 2 2 4 8 9 8 -1
15 West Ham Utd. 8 2 2 4 4 10 8 -6
16 Ipswich Town 8 2 1 5 9 15 7 -6
17 Crystal Palace 8 1 4 3 6 12 7 -6
18 Q.P.R. 8 1 3 4 11 15 6 -4
19 Sheffield Wed. 8 1 3 4 10 17 6 -7
20 Leicester City 7 1 2 4 7 12 5 -5
21 Coventry City 7 1 2 4 6 16 5 -10
22 Everton 8 0 3 5 7 18 3 -11
Tonight: Leicester City v Coventry City
Next weekend:
Chelsea - Leicester City
Coventry City - Ipswich Town
Liverpool - Aston Villa
Manchester City - Nottingham Forest
Newcastle United - Blackburn Rovers
Norwich City - Leeds United
Sheffield Wednesday - Manchester United
Southampton - Everton
Tottenham Hotspur - Queen's Park Rangers
West Ham United - Crystal Palace
Wimbledon - Arsenal
|
13.581 | Week 9 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Oct 10 1994 14:33 | 64 |
| Sat 8th
Chelsea 4 - 0 Leicester City
Liverpool 3 - 2 Aston Villa
Man. City 3 - 3 Nott'm Forest
Norwich City 2 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 0 Man. Utd.
Southampton 2 - 0 Everton
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Q.P.R.
West Ham Utd. 1 - 0 Crystal Palace
Wimbledon 1 - 3 Arsenal
Sun 9th
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Newcastle Utd. 9 7 2 0 26 9 23 17
2 Nott'm Forest 9 6 3 0 20 10 21 10
3 Blackburn Rovers 9 5 3 1 18 6 18 12
4 Liverpool 8 5 2 1 19 7 17 12
5 Man. Utd. 9 5 1 3 14 7 16 7
6 Chelsea 8 5 0 3 17 10 15 7
7 Southampton 9 4 3 2 14 13 15 1
8 Norwich City 9 4 3 2 7 7 15 0
9 Leeds Utd. 9 4 2 3 12 10 14 2
10 Tottenham Hotspur 9 4 1 4 15 17 13 -2
11 Man. City 9 3 3 3 14 13 12 1
12 Arsenal 9 3 2 4 11 10 11 1
13 West Ham Utd. 9 3 2 4 5 10 11 -5
14 Aston Villa 9 2 3 4 10 13 9 -3
15 Wimbledon 9 2 3 4 7 12 9 -5
16 Sheffield Wed. 9 2 3 4 11 17 9 -6
17 Q.P.R. 9 1 4 4 12 16 7 -4
18 Ipswich Town 8 2 1 5 9 15 7 -6
19 Crystal Palace 9 1 4 4 6 13 7 -7
20 Leicester City 9 1 3 5 9 18 6 -9
21 Coventry City 8 1 3 4 8 18 6 -10
22 Everton 9 0 3 6 7 20 3 -13
Tonight:
Coventry v Ipswich Sounds poor on paper but after last week
(Coventry v Leicester) could be entertaining
Next weekend:
Arsenal - Chelsea
Aston Villa - Norwich City
Blackburn Rovers - Liverpool
Crystal Palace - Newcastle United
Everton - Coventry City
Ipswich Town - Sheffield Wednesday
Leeds United - Tottenham Hotspur
Leicester City - Southampton
Manchester United - West Ham United
Nottingham Forest - Wimbledon
Queen's Park Rangers - Manchester City
Al
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13.582 | Week 10 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Oct 17 1994 13:04 | 45 |
| Mon 10th
Coventry 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Sat 15th
Arsenal 3 - 1 Chelsea
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Norwich City
Blackburn Rovers 3 - 2 Liverpool
Crystal Palace 0 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Everton 0 - 2 Coventry City
Leeds Utd. 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Leicester City 4 - 3 Southampton
Man. Utd. 1 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Q.P.R. 1 - 2 Man. City
Sun 16th
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Newcastle Utd. 10 8 2 0 27 9 26 18
2 Blackburn Rovers 10 6 3 1 21 8 21 13
3 Nott'm Forest 9 6 3 0 20 10 21 10
4 Man. Utd. 10 6 1 3 15 7 19 8
5 Liverpool 9 5 2 2 21 10 17 11
6 Norwich City 10 4 4 2 8 8 16 0
7 Chelsea 9 5 0 4 18 13 15 5
8 Man. City 10 4 3 3 16 14 15 2
9 Leeds Utd. 10 4 3 3 13 11 15 2
10 Southampton 10 4 3 3 17 17 15 0
11 Arsenal 10 4 2 4 14 11 14 3
12 Tottenham Hotspur 10 4 2 4 16 18 14 -2
13 Sheffield Wed. 10 3 3 4 13 18 12 -5
14 Coventry City 10 3 3 4 12 18 12 -6
15 West Ham Utd. 10 3 2 5 5 11 11 -6
16 Aston Villa 10 2 4 4 11 14 10 -3
17 Wimbledon 9 2 3 4 7 12 9 -5
18 Leicester City 10 2 3 5 13 21 9 -8
19 Q.P.R. 10 1 4 5 13 18 7 -5
20 Crystal Palace 10 1 4 5 6 14 7 -8
21 Ipswich Town 10 2 1 7 10 19 7 -9
22 Everton 10 0 3 7 7 22 3 -15
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13.583 | Results Round-Up : | GENIE::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Mon Oct 31 1994 13:33 | 84 |
| Premiership :
Mon 24th: Leeds 2 Leicester 1
Sat 29th: Coventry 1 Manchester C. 0
Everton 1 Arsenal 1
Ipswich 1 Liverpool 3
Leicester 0 Crystal Palace 1
Manchester U. 2 Newcastle 0
Notts Forest 0 Blackburn 2
QPR 2 Aston Villa 0
Sheffield Wed. 1 Chelsea 1
Southampton 1 Leeds 3
Tottenham 3 West Ham 1
Sun 30th: Wimbledon 1 Norwich 0
P W D L Pts
Newcastle U. 12 9 2 1 29
Notts Forest 12 8 3 1 27
Manchester U. 12 8 1 3 25
Blackburn 12 7 3 2 24
Liverpool 11 7 2 2 23
Leeds U. 12 6 3 3 21
Chelsea 11 6 1 4 19
Norwich 12 5 4 3 19
Manchester C. 12 5 3 4 18
Arsenal 12 5 3 4 18
*Tottenham 12 5 2 5 17
Southampton 12 4 3 5 15
Coventry 12 4 3 5 15
West Ham U. 12 4 2 6 14
Sheffield Wed. 12 3 4 5 13
Crystal Palace 12 3 4 5 13
Wimbledon 12 3 3 6 12
QPR 12 2 4 6 10
Aston Villa 12 2 4 6 10
Leicester 12 2 3 7 9
Ipswich 12 2 1 9 7
Everton 12 0 4 8 4
* Tottenham to be deducted six points
English First Division:
Sat: Bolton 3 Watford 0
Bristol C. 1 Portsmouth 1
Burnley 2 Notts County 1
Derby 2 Charlton 2
Luton 0 Barnsley 1
Middlesbro' 3 Swindon 1
Millwall 2 Sheffield U. 1
Southend 0 Grimsby 0
Sunderland 0 Oldham 0
Tranmere 1 Port Vale 1
West Brom 2 Reading 0
Sun: Stoke 1 Wolverhampton 1
English First Div: P W D L Pts
Wolverhampton W. 14 8 4 2 28
Middlesborough 14 8 3 3 27
Tranmere 14 7 3 4 24
Reading 14 7 3 4 24
Swindon 14 6 3 5 21
Charlton 14 5 5 4 20
Bolton 14 5 5 4 20
Sunderland 14 4 8 2 20
Barnsley 14 5 5 4 20
Luton 14 5 4 5 19
Southend 14 5 4 5 19
Stoke 14 5 4 5 19
Grimsby 14 4 6 4 18
Oldham 14 5 3 6 18
Portsmouth 14 4 6 4 18
Derby 14 4 5 5 17
Watford 14 4 5 5 17
Burnley 14 4 5 5 17
Sheffield Utd. 14 4 4 6 16
Port Vale 14 4 4 6 16
Bristol C. 14 4 4 6 16
Millwall 14 3 6 5 15
WBA 14 3 4 7 13
Notts County 14 1 5 8 8
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13.584 | Up to date!! | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Wed Nov 02 1994 14:58 | 86 |
| I was off last week.
Here's a complete round up of results since my last entry.
Mon 17th
Nott'm Forest 3 - 1 Wimbledon
Sat 22nd
Aston Villa 0 - 2 Nott'm Forest
Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Everton
Liverpool 3 - 0 Wimbledon
Man. City 5 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle Utd. 2 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Norwich City 4 - 2 Q.P.R.
West Ham Utd. 2 - 0 Southampton
Sun 23rd
Arsenal 2 - 1 Coventry City
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 4 Man. Utd.
Chelsea 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Mon 24th
Leeds Utd. 2 - 1 Leicester City
Sat 29th
Coventry City 1 - 0 Man. City
Everton 1 - 1 Arsenal
Ipswich Town 1 - 3 Liverpool
Leicester City 0 - 1 Crystal Palace
Man. Utd. 2 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Nott'm Forest 0 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Q.P.R. 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Chelsea
Southampton 1 - 3 Leeds Utd.
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Sun 30th
Wimbledon 1 - 0 Norwich City
Mon 31st
Q.P.R. 2 - 1 Liverpool
Tue 1st Nov
Everton 1 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Ipswich Town 2 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Newcastle Utd. 12 9 2 1 29 12 29 17
2 Nott'm Forest 12 8 3 1 25 13 27 12
3 Man. Utd. 12 8 1 3 21 9 25 12
4 Blackburn Rovers 12 7 3 2 25 12 24 13
5 Liverpool 12 7 2 3 28 13 23 15
6 Leeds Utd. 13 6 3 4 18 15 21 3
7 Chelsea 11 6 1 4 21 14 19 7
8 Norwich City 12 5 4 3 12 11 19 1
9 Man. City 12 5 3 4 21 17 18 4
10 Arsenal 12 5 3 4 17 13 18 4
11 Tottenham Hotspur 12 5 2 5 21 24 17 -3
12 Southampton 12 4 3 5 18 22 15 -4
13 Coventry City 12 4 3 5 14 20 15 -6
14 West Ham Utd. 13 4 2 7 8 15 14 -7
15 Q.P.R. 13 3 4 6 19 23 13 -4
16 Sheffield Wed. 12 3 4 5 15 21 13 -6
17 Crystal Palace 12 3 4 5 8 14 13 -6
18 Wimbledon 12 3 3 6 9 18 12 -9
19 Aston Villa 12 2 4 6 11 18 10 -7
20 Ipswich Town 13 3 1 9 13 24 10 -11
21 Leicester City 12 2 3 7 14 24 9 -10
22 Everton 13 1 4 8 9 24 7 -15
Tonight: (I think - due to European Commitments)
Coventry City - Crystal Palace
Sheffield Wednesday - Blackburn Rovers
Southampton - Norwich City
|
13.585 | Midweek games concluded | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Thu Nov 03 1994 13:02 | 29 |
| Coventry City 1 - 4 Crystal Palace
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Southampton 1 - 1 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Newcastle Utd. 12 9 2 1 29 12 29 17
2 Blackburn Rovers 13 8 3 2 26 12 27 14
3 Nott'm Forest 12 8 3 1 25 13 27 12
4 Man. Utd. 12 8 1 3 21 9 25 12
5 Liverpool 12 7 2 3 28 13 23 15
6 Leeds Utd. 13 6 3 4 18 15 21 3
7 Norwich City 13 5 5 3 13 12 20 1
8 Chelsea 11 6 1 4 21 14 19 7
9 Man. City 12 5 3 4 21 17 18 4
10 Arsenal 12 5 3 4 17 13 18 4
11 Tottenham Hotspur 12 5 2 5 21 24 17 -3
12 Crystal Palace 13 4 4 5 12 15 16 -3
13 Southampton 13 4 4 5 19 23 16 -4
14 Coventry City 13 4 3 6 15 24 15 -9
15 West Ham Utd. 13 4 2 7 8 15 14 -7
16 Q.P.R. 13 3 4 6 19 23 13 -4
17 Sheffield Wed. 13 3 4 6 15 22 13 -7
18 Wimbledon 12 3 3 6 9 18 12 -9
19 Aston Villa 12 2 4 6 11 18 10 -7
20 Ipswich Town 13 3 1 9 13 24 10 -11
21 Leicester City 12 2 3 7 14 24 9 -10
22 Everton 13 1 4 8 9 24 7 -15
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13.586 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Nov 07 1994 17:45 | 42 |
| Sat 5th
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Crystal Palace 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Leeds Utd. 3 - 1 Wimbledon
Liverpool 1 - 0 Nott'm Forest
Man. City 3 - 3 Southampton
Newcastle Utd. 2 - 1 Q.P.R.
Norwich City 0 - 0 Everton
West Ham Utd. 1 - 0 Leicester City
Sun 6th
Arsenal 0 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Man. Utd.
Chelsea 2 - 2 Coventry City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Newcastle Utd. 13 10 2 1 31 13 32 18
2 Blackburn Rovers 14 9 3 2 28 12 30 16
3 Man. Utd. 13 9 1 3 23 10 28 13
4 Nott'm Forest 13 8 3 2 25 14 27 11
5 Liverpool 13 8 2 3 29 13 26 16
6 Leeds Utd. 14 7 3 4 21 16 24 5
7 Norwich City 14 5 6 3 13 12 21 1
8 Chelsea 12 6 2 4 23 16 20 7
9 Man. City 13 5 4 4 24 20 19 4
10 Arsenal 13 5 4 4 17 13 19 4
11 Crystal Palace 14 5 4 5 15 15 19 0
12 Southampton 14 4 5 5 22 26 17 -4
13 Tottenham Hotspur 13 5 2 6 21 26 17 -5
14 West Ham Utd. 14 5 2 7 9 15 17 -6
15 Coventry City 14 4 4 6 17 26 16 -9
16 Sheffield Wed. 14 3 5 6 15 22 14 -7
17 Q.P.R. 14 3 4 7 20 25 13 -5
18 Wimbledon 13 3 3 7 10 21 12 -11
19 Aston Villa 13 2 4 7 12 20 10 -8
20 Ipswich Town 14 3 1 10 13 27 10 -14
21 Leicester City 13 2 3 8 14 25 9 -11
22 Everton 14 1 5 8 9 24 8 -15
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13.587 | Last weekends results | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Tue Nov 22 1994 17:45 | 45 |
| Sat 19th
Coventry City 1 - 0 Norwich City
Ipswich Town 1 - 3 Blackburn Rovers
Man. Utd. 3 - 0 Crystal Palace
Nott'm Forest 0 - 1 Chelsea
Q.P.R. 3 - 2 Leeds Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Southampton 1 - 0 Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 4 Aston Villa
Wimbledon 3 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Sun 20th
Leicester City 0 - 1 Man. City
mon 21st
Everton 2 - 0 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 15 11 1 3 31 10 34 21
2 Blackburn Rovers 15 10 3 2 31 13 33 18
3 Newcastle Utd. 15 10 3 2 33 16 33 17
4 Liverpool 15 9 2 4 32 16 29 16
5 Nott'm Forest 15 8 4 3 25 15 28 10
6 Leeds Utd. 15 7 3 5 23 19 24 4
7 Chelsea 14 7 2 5 25 19 23 6
8 Man. City 15 6 4 5 25 25 22 0
9 Norwich City 15 5 6 4 13 13 21 0
10 Southampton 15 5 5 5 23 26 20 -3
11 Arsenal 14 5 4 5 17 14 19 3
12 Crystal Palace 15 5 4 6 15 18 19 -3
13 Coventry City 15 5 4 6 18 26 19 -8
14 Wimbledon 15 5 3 7 17 26 18 -9
15 Tottenham Hotspur 14 5 2 7 24 30 17 -6
16 Sheffield Wed. 15 4 5 6 16 22 17 -6
17 West Ham Utd. 15 5 2 8 9 16 17 -7
18 Q.P.R. 15 4 4 7 23 27 16 -4
19 Aston Villa 15 3 4 8 19 27 13 -8
20 Everton 15 2 5 8 11 24 11 -13
21 Ipswich Town 15 3 1 11 14 30 10 -16
22 Leicester City 14 2 3 9 14 26 9 -12
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13.588 | Midweek games | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Fri Nov 25 1994 19:45 | 28 |
| Leicester City 2 - 1 Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 0 Chelsea
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Man. Utd. 15 11 1 3 31 10 34 21
2 Blackburn Rovers 15 10 3 2 31 13 33 18
3 Newcastle Utd. 15 10 3 2 33 16 33 17
4 Liverpool 15 9 2 4 32 16 29 16
5 Nott'm Forest 15 8 4 3 25 15 28 10
6 Chelsea 15 7 3 5 25 19 24 6
7 Leeds Utd. 15 7 3 5 23 19 24 4
8 Man. City 15 6 4 5 25 25 22 0
9 Norwich City 15 5 6 4 13 13 21 0
10 Southampton 15 5 5 5 23 26 20 -3
11 Arsenal 15 5 4 6 18 16 19 2
12 Crystal Palace 15 5 4 6 15 18 19 -3
13 Coventry City 15 5 4 6 18 26 19 -8
14 Tottenham Hotspur 15 5 3 7 24 30 18 -6
15 Wimbledon 15 5 3 7 17 26 18 -9
16 Sheffield Wed. 15 4 5 6 16 22 17 -6
17 West Ham Utd. 15 5 2 8 9 16 17 -7
18 Q.P.R. 15 4 4 7 23 27 16 -4
19 Aston Villa 15 3 4 8 19 27 13 -8
20 Leicester City 15 3 3 9 16 27 12 -11
21 Everton 15 2 5 8 11 24 11 -13
22 Ipswich Town 15 3 1 11 14 30 10 -16
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13.589 | Week 16 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Nov 28 1994 12:59 | 42 |
| Sat 26th
Arsenal 0 - 0 Man. Utd.
Blackburn Rovers 4 - 0 Q.P.R.
Chelsea 0 - 1 Everton
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Southampton
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 Nott'm Forest
Liverpool 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Man. City 2 - 0 Wimbledon
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Norwich City 2 - 1 Leicester City
West Ham Utd. 0 - 1 Coventry City
Sun 27th
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 16 11 3 2 35 13 36 22
2 Man. Utd. 16 11 2 3 31 10 35 21
3 Newcastle Utd. 16 10 4 2 34 17 34 17
4 Liverpool 16 9 3 4 33 17 30 16
5 Nott'm Forest 16 8 4 4 25 16 28 9
6 Leeds Utd. 16 8 3 5 24 19 27 5
7 Man. City 16 7 4 5 27 25 25 2
8 Chelsea 16 7 3 6 25 20 24 5
9 Norwich City 16 6 6 4 15 14 24 1
10 Coventry City 16 6 4 6 19 26 22 -7
11 Southampton 16 5 6 5 23 26 21 -3
12 Arsenal 16 5 5 6 18 16 20 2
13 Crystal Palace 16 5 5 6 15 18 20 -3
14 Tottenham Hotspur 16 5 4 7 25 31 19 -6
15 Sheffield Wed. 16 4 6 6 17 23 18 -6
16 Wimbledon 16 5 3 8 17 28 18 -11
17 West Ham Utd. 16 5 2 9 9 17 17 -8
18 Q.P.R. 16 4 4 8 23 31 16 -8
19 Aston Villa 16 3 5 8 20 28 14 -8
20 Everton 16 3 5 8 12 24 14 -12
21 Leicester City 16 3 3 10 17 29 12 -12
22 Ipswich Town 16 3 2 11 15 31 11 -16
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13.590 | Week 17 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Dec 05 1994 19:00 | 59 |
| Sat 3rd Dec '94
Coventry City 1 - 1 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Man. City
Leicester City 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Man. Utd. 1 - 0 Norwich City
Nott'm Forest 2 - 2 Arsenal
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 0 Crystal Palace
Southampton 0 - 1 Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur 4 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Wimbledon 0 - 3 Blackburn Rovers
Sun 4th
Q.P.R. 2 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 17 12 3 2 38 13 39 25
2 Man. Utd. 17 12 2 3 32 10 38 22
3 Newcastle Utd. 17 10 4 3 36 21 34 15
4 Liverpool 17 9 4 4 34 18 31 16
5 Nott'm Forest 17 8 5 4 27 18 29 9
6 Man. City 17 8 4 5 29 26 28 3
7 Chelsea 17 8 3 6 26 20 27 6
8 Leeds Utd. 16 8 3 5 24 19 27 5
9 Norwich City 17 6 6 5 15 15 24 0
10 Coventry City 17 6 5 6 20 27 23 -7
11 Tottenham Hotspur 17 6 4 7 29 33 22 -4
12 Arsenal 17 5 6 6 20 18 21 2
13 Southampton 17 5 6 6 23 27 21 -4
14 Sheffield Wed. 17 5 6 6 18 23 21 -5
15 Crystal Palace 17 5 5 7 15 19 20 -4
16 Q.P.R. 17 5 4 8 25 32 19 -7
17 Wimbledon 17 5 3 9 17 31 18 -14
18 West Ham Utd. 17 5 2 10 10 19 17 -9
19 Aston Villa 17 3 6 8 21 29 15 -8
20 Everton 16 3 5 8 12 24 14 -12
21 Leicester City 17 3 4 10 18 30 13 -12
22 Ipswich Town 17 3 2 12 16 33 11 -17
Tonight:
Everton v Leeds
Next weekend:
Aston Villa - Everton
Blackburn Rovers - Southampton
Leeds United - West Ham United
Liverpool - Crystal Palace
Manchester City - Arsenal
Newcastle United - Leicester City
Norwich City - Chelsea
Nottingham Forest - Ipswich Town
Queen's Park Rangers - Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur - Sheffield Wednesday
Wimbledon - Coventry City
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13.591 | Goalscoring Amendments | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Thu Dec 08 1994 21:31 | 18 |
13.592 | Huh - is this like "instant replay"? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Brazil v Italy - I was there! | Thu Dec 08 1994 22:51 | 9 |
| brian,
who is this guy called "own goal" and what committee decides this?
Maybe they'll go back and reexamine the 3rd goal in the 66 final next?
regards
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
13.593 | | WARNUT::PICKERINGS | Simon Pickering | Fri Dec 09 1994 12:23 | 5 |
| Well some very dubious goals get creditted to strikers. Take Fowler's
against Forest. If Fowler had been a Forest defender when the ball hit
him, Redknapp would have claimed it.
Mind you, I did like Cantona's goal against Galatasary:-
|
13.594 | | FORTY2::ABRAHAMS | | Fri Dec 09 1994 12:56 | 1 |
| does this modify fantasy league totals?
|
13.595 | | REOSV2::STRATFORDS | | Fri Dec 09 1994 13:13 | 5 |
| re -1
I bloody well hope not ;-(
Stuart
|
13.596 | Sky Rules | ESSB::BLONG | PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1993 & 1994 | Fri Dec 09 1994 13:20 | 4 |
13.597 | You're in the Clear | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | John Hussey - Exiled in jocko land | Fri Dec 09 1994 13:41 | 7 |
| Re. 594
Fantasy League totals are not affected (at least weren't in the past) if you're
talking about the Telegraph/Fantasy League Ltd ones.
I think this is due to the amount of work involved in check who was in whose
team at the time.
|
13.598 | Week 18 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Dec 12 1994 12:58 | 59 |
| Sat 10th
Aston Villa 0 - 0 Everton
Blackburn Rovers 3 - 2 Southampton
Leeds Utd. 2 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Newcastle Utd. 3 - 1 Leicester City
Norwich City 3 - 0 Chelsea
Nott'm Forest 4 - 1 Ipswich Town
Q.P.R. 2 - 3 Man. Utd.
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Wimbledon 2 - 0 Coventry City
Sun 11th
Liverpool 0 - 0 Crystal Palace
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 18 13 3 2 41 15 42 26
2 Man. Utd. 18 13 2 3 35 12 41 23
3 Newcastle Utd. 18 11 4 3 39 22 37 17
4 Liverpool 18 9 5 4 34 18 32 16
5 Nott'm Forest 18 9 5 4 31 19 32 12
6 Man. City 17 8 4 5 29 26 28 3
7 Leeds Utd. 18 8 4 6 26 24 28 2
8 Chelsea 18 8 3 7 26 23 27 3
9 Norwich City 18 7 6 5 18 15 27 3
10 Tottenham Hotspur 18 7 4 7 32 34 25 -2
11 Coventry City 18 6 5 7 20 29 23 -9
12 Arsenal 17 5 6 6 20 18 21 2
13 Crystal Palace 18 5 6 7 15 19 21 -4
14 Southampton 18 5 6 7 25 30 21 -5
15 Sheffield Wed. 18 5 6 7 19 26 21 -7
16 Wimbledon 18 6 3 9 19 31 21 -12
17 Q.P.R. 18 5 4 9 27 35 19 -8
18 Everton 18 4 6 8 15 24 18 -9
19 West Ham Utd. 18 5 3 10 12 21 18 -9
20 Aston Villa 18 3 7 8 21 29 16 -8
21 Leicester City 18 3 4 11 19 33 13 -14
22 Ipswich Town 18 3 2 13 17 37 11 -20
Tonight:
Manchester City - Arsenal
Next weekend:
Arsenal - Leeds United
Chelsea - Liverpool
Coventry City - Newcastle United
Crystal Palace - Norwich City
Everton - Tottenham Hotspur
Ipswich Town - Wimbledon
Leicester City - Blackburn Rovers
Manchester United - Nottingham Forest
Sheffield Wednesday - Queen's Park Rangers
Southampton - Aston Villa
West Ham United - Manchester City
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13.599 | Up to date | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Tue Jan 17 1995 17:52 | 123 |
| Fri 16 Dec
Ipswich Town 2 - 2 Wimbledon
Sat 17 Dec
Arsenal 1 - 3 Leeds Utd.
Coventry City 0 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Crystal Palace 0 - 1 Norwich City
Everton 0 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Leicester City 0 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Man. Utd. 1 - 2 Nott'm Forest
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 2 Q.P.R.
West Ham Utd. 3 - 0 Man. City
Sun 18 Dec
Chelsea 0 - 0 Liverpool
Mon 19 Dec
Southampton 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Mon 26 Dec
Arsenal 0 - 0 Aston Villa
Chelsea 2 - 3 Man. Utd.
Coventry City 0 - 0 Nott'm Forest
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Q.P.R.
Everton 1 - 4 Sheffield Wed.
Leeds Utd. 0 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Leicester City 1 - 2 Liverpool
Man. City 1 - 3 Blackburn Rovers
Norwich City 0 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton 2 - 3 Wimbledon
West Ham Utd. 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Tues 27 Dec
Nott'm Forest 1 - 0 Norwich City
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 0 Crystal Palace
Wed 28 Dec
Aston Villa 3 - 0 Chelsea
Blackburn Rovers Postponed Leeds Utd
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 Arsenal
Liverpool 2 - 0 Man. City
Man. Utd. 1 - 1 Leicester City
Q.P.R. 2 - 2 Southampton
Sheffield Wed. 5 - 1 Coventry City
Wimbledon 1 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Sat 31 Dec 94
Arsenal 1 - 3 Q.P.R.
Chelsea 1 - 1 Wimbledon
Coventry City 0 - 4 Tottenham Hotspur
Crystal Palace 0 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Everton 4 - 1 Ipswich Town
Leeds Utd. 0 - 2 Liverpool
Leicester City 0 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Man. City 2 - 2 Aston Villa
Norwich City 2 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Southampton 2 - 2 Man. Utd.
West Ham Utd. 3 - 1 Nott'm Forest
Mon 2 Jan 95
Aston Villa 0 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Blackburn Rovers 4 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Ipswich Town 4 - 1 Leicester City
Liverpool 4 - 0 Norwich City
Newcastle Utd. 0 - 0 Man. City
Nott'm Forest 1 - 0 Crystal Palace
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 1 Southampton
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 0 Arsenal
Wimbledon 2 - 1 Everton
Tues 3 Jan 95
Man. Utd. 2 - 0 Coventry City
Q.P.R. Postponed Chelsea
Sat 14 Jan 95
Arsenal 1 - 1 Everton
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Q.P.R.
Blackburn Rovers 3 - 0 Nott'm Forest
Chelsea 1 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Leicester City
Leeds Utd. 0 - 0 Southampton
Liverpool 0 - 1 Ipswich Town
Man. City 0 - 0 Coventry City
Norwich City 1 - 2 Wimbledon
West Ham Utd. 1 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 1 Man. Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 23 17 4 2 52 18 55 34
2 Man. Utd. 24 15 5 4 45 20 50 25
3 Liverpool 24 13 6 5 44 20 45 24
4 Nott'm Forest 24 12 6 6 36 26 42 10
5 Newcastle Utd. 23 11 8 4 40 25 41 15
6 Tottenham Hotspur 24 11 6 7 41 35 39 6
7 Wimbledon 24 10 5 9 30 37 35 -7
8 Leeds Utd. 23 9 7 7 29 27 34 2
9 Norwich City 24 9 6 9 22 25 33 -3
10 Sheffield Wed. 24 8 8 8 31 32 32 -1
11 Man. City 24 8 7 9 33 38 31 -5
12 Chelsea 23 8 6 9 30 31 30 -1
13 Arsenal 24 7 8 9 27 27 29 0
14 Southampton 24 6 10 8 34 39 28 -5
15 Q.P.R. 23 7 6 10 35 40 27 -5
16 Crystal Palace 24 6 8 10 17 22 26 -5
17 Coventry City 24 6 8 10 21 40 26 -19
18 Aston Villa 24 5 10 9 29 34 25 -5
19 West Ham Utd. 24 7 4 13 22 30 25 -8
20 Everton 23 5 8 10 22 32 23 -10
21 Ipswich Town 24 5 4 15 26 47 19 -21
22 Leicester City 24 3 6 15 22 43 15 -21
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13.600 | Week 25 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Tue Jan 24 1995 18:41 | 41 |
| Sat 21st Jan
Coventry City 0 - 1 Arsenal
Everton 3 - 1 Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town 2 - 2 Chelsea
Nott'm Forest 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Sun 22nd
Man. Utd. 1 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Mon 23rd
West Ham Utd. 0 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 24 17 4 3 52 19 55 33
2 Man. Utd. 25 16 5 4 46 20 53 26
3 Liverpool 24 13 6 5 44 20 45 24
4 Newcastle Utd. 24 11 9 4 40 25 42 15
5 Nott'm Forest 25 12 6 7 37 28 42 9
6 Tottenham Hotspur 24 11 6 7 41 35 39 6
7 Sheffield Wed. 26 9 9 8 33 32 36 1
8 Wimbledon 24 10 5 9 30 37 35 -7
9 Leeds Utd. 23 9 7 7 29 27 34 2
10 Norwich City 24 9 6 9 22 25 33 -3
11 Arsenal 25 8 8 9 28 27 32 1
12 Chelsea 24 8 7 9 32 33 31 -1
13 Man. City 24 8 7 9 33 38 31 -5
14 Aston Villa 25 6 10 9 31 35 28 -4
15 Southampton 24 6 10 8 34 39 28 -5
16 Q.P.R. 23 7 6 10 35 40 27 -5
17 Crystal Palace 25 6 8 11 18 25 26 -7
18 Everton 24 6 8 10 25 33 26 -8
19 Coventry City 25 6 8 11 21 41 26 -20
20 West Ham Utd. 25 7 4 14 22 32 25 -10
21 Ipswich Town 25 5 5 15 28 49 20 -21
22 Leicester City 24 3 6 15 22 43 15 -21
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13.601 | Thanks from Littleton MA | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - #1 again!!! | Wed Jan 25 1995 23:54 | 6 |
| Is there a posted list of the Premier League's leading scorers that
someone can place in this note? My son wanted to know which players
had the most goals. I guessed Shearer, then LeTissier and Fowler, but
I'm certainly not sure.
NAZZ
|
13.602 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Jan 30 1995 13:06 | 44 |
| Tues 24 Jan
Arsenal 1 - 1 Southampton
Leeds Utd. 4 - 0 Q.P.R.
Liverpool 0 - 0 Everton
Wed 25 Jan
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 0 - 2 Nott'm Forest
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Man. Utd.
Man. City 0 - 1 Leicester City
Newcastle Utd. 2 - 1 Wimbledon
Norwich City 2 - 2 Coventry City
Sat 28 Jan
Blackburn Rovers 4 - 1 Ipswich Town
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 25 18 4 3 56 20 58 36
2 Man. Utd. 26 16 6 4 47 21 54 26
3 Liverpool 25 13 7 5 44 20 46 24
4 Newcastle Utd. 25 12 9 4 42 26 45 16
5 Nott'm Forest 26 13 6 7 39 28 45 11
6 Tottenham Hotspur 25 11 6 8 41 36 39 5
7 Leeds Utd. 24 10 7 7 33 27 37 6
8 Sheffield Wed. 26 9 9 8 33 32 36 1
9 Wimbledon 25 10 5 10 31 39 35 -8
10 Norwich City 25 9 7 9 24 27 34 -3
11 Arsenal 26 8 9 9 29 28 33 1
12 Aston Villa 26 7 10 9 32 35 31 -3
13 Chelsea 25 8 7 10 32 35 31 -3
14 Man. City 25 8 7 10 33 39 31 -6
15 Southampton 25 6 11 8 35 40 29 -5
16 Crystal Palace 26 6 9 11 19 26 27 -7
17 Everton 25 6 9 10 25 33 27 -8
18 Q.P.R. 24 7 6 11 35 44 27 -9
19 Coventry City 26 6 9 11 23 43 27 -20
20 West Ham Utd. 25 7 4 14 22 32 25 -10
21 Ipswich Town 26 5 5 16 29 53 20 -24
22 Leicester City 25 4 6 15 23 43 18 -20
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13.603 | Week 27 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Fri Feb 10 1995 20:15 | 61 |
| Wed 1st Feb
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
Newcastle Utd. 2 - 0 Everton
Sat 4th Feb
Coventry City 2 - 2 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 1 Norwich City
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 Crystal Palace
Leicester City 1 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Man. Utd. 1 - 0 Aston Villa
Nott'm Forest 1 - 1 Liverpool
Q.P.R. 3 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 3 - 1 Arsenal
Southampton 2 - 2 Man. City
Wimbledon 0 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Sun 5th Feb
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 27 18 5 4 58 24 59 34
2 Man. Utd. 27 17 6 4 48 21 57 27
3 Newcastle Utd. 27 13 9 5 44 29 48 15
4 Liverpool 26 13 8 5 45 21 47 24
5 Nott'm Forest 27 13 7 7 40 29 46 11
6 Tottenham Hotspur 26 12 6 8 44 37 42 7
7 Leeds Utd. 26 10 9 7 34 28 39 6
8 Sheffield Wed. 27 10 9 8 36 33 39 3
9 Wimbledon 26 10 6 10 31 39 36 -8
10 Norwich City 26 9 7 10 25 29 34 -4
11 Arsenal 27 8 9 10 30 31 33 -1
12 Chelsea 26 8 8 10 34 37 32 -3
13 Man. City 26 8 8 10 35 41 32 -6
14 Aston Villa 27 7 10 10 32 36 31 -4
15 Southampton 26 6 12 8 37 42 30 -5
16 Crystal Palace 27 7 9 11 21 26 30 -5
17 Q.P.R. 25 8 6 11 38 44 30 -6
18 Everton 27 7 9 11 27 36 30 -9
19 West Ham Utd. 26 8 4 14 24 33 28 -9
20 Coventry City 27 6 10 11 25 45 28 -20
21 Ipswich Town 27 5 5 17 29 55 20 -26
22 Leicester City 26 4 6 16 24 45 18 -21
This weekend's fixtures
Arsenal - Leicester City
Aston Villa - Wimbledon
Blackburn Rovers - Sheffield Wednesday
Chelsea - Tottenham Hotspur
Crystal Palace - Coventry City
Leeds United - Ipswich Town
Liverpool - Queen's Park Rangers
Manchester City - Manchester United
Newcastle United - Nottingham Forest
Norwich City - Southampton
West Ham United - Everton
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13.604 | Week 28 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Feb 13 1995 14:47 | 41 |
| Sat 11th
Arsenal 1 - 1 Leicester City
Aston Villa 7 - 1 Wimbledon
Chelsea 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Coventry City
Leeds Utd. Postponed Ipswich Town
Liverpool 1 - 1 Q.P.R.
Man. City 0 - 3 Man. Utd.
Newcastle Utd. 2 - 1 Nott'm Forest
Norwich City 2 - 2 Southampton
Sun 12th
Blackburn Rovers 3 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 28 19 5 4 61 25 62 36
2 Man. Utd. 28 18 6 4 51 21 60 30
3 Newcastle Utd. 28 14 9 5 46 30 51 16
4 Liverpool 27 13 9 5 46 22 48 24
5 Nott'm Forest 28 13 7 8 41 31 46 10
6 Tottenham Hotspur 27 12 7 8 45 38 43 7
7 Leeds Utd. 26 10 9 7 34 28 39 6
8 Sheffield Wed. 28 10 9 9 37 36 39 1
9 Wimbledon 27 10 6 11 32 46 36 -14
10 Norwich City 27 9 8 10 27 31 35 -4
11 Aston Villa 28 8 10 10 39 37 34 2
12 Arsenal 28 8 10 10 31 32 34 -1
13 Chelsea 27 8 9 10 35 38 33 -3
14 Man. City 27 8 8 11 35 44 32 -9
15 Southampton 27 6 13 8 39 44 31 -5
16 Q.P.R. 26 8 7 11 39 45 31 -6
17 Coventry City 28 7 10 11 27 45 31 -18
18 Crystal Palace 28 7 9 12 21 28 30 -7
19 Everton 27 7 9 11 27 36 30 -9
20 West Ham Utd. 26 8 4 14 24 33 28 -9
21 Ipswich Town 27 5 5 17 29 55 20 -26
22 Leicester City 27 4 7 16 25 46 19 -21
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13.605 | Results since last time!!!! | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Feb 27 1995 20:42 | 58 |
| Sat 18th
Coventry City 2 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Tue 21st
Arsenal 1 - 0 Nott'm Forest
Wed 22nd
Aston Villa 4 - 4 Leicester City
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 1 Wimbledon
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 Everton
Man. City 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Norwich City 0 - 2 Man. Utd.
Sat 25th
Blackburn Rovers 0 - 0 Norwich City
Coventry City 4 - 2 Leicester City
Crystal Palace 0 - 3 Arsenal
Everton 1 - 0 Man. Utd.
Ipswich Town 2 - 1 Southampton
Man. City 0 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Newcastle Utd. 3 - 1 Aston Villa
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 2 Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 2 Wimbledon
West Ham Utd. 1 - 2 Chelsea
Sun 26th
Q.P.R. 1 - 1 Nott'm Forest
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 30 20 6 4 63 26 66 37
2 Man. Utd. 30 19 6 5 53 22 63 31
3 Newcastle Utd. 29 15 9 5 49 31 54 18
4 Liverpool 28 14 9 5 48 23 51 25
5 Nott'm Forest 30 13 8 9 42 33 47 9
6 Leeds Utd. 28 11 10 7 35 28 43 7
7 Tottenham Hotspur 28 12 7 9 46 40 43 6
8 Arsenal 30 10 10 10 35 32 40 3
9 Sheffield Wed. 30 10 9 11 39 40 39 -1
10 Wimbledon 29 11 6 12 35 49 39 -14
11 Aston Villa 31 9 11 11 46 45 38 1
12 Coventry City 30 9 10 11 33 47 37 -14
13 Chelsea 28 9 9 10 37 39 36 -2
14 Norwich City 29 9 9 11 27 33 36 -6
15 Man. City 29 9 9 11 37 44 36 -7
16 Everton 30 8 10 12 30 39 34 -9
17 Q.P.R. 27 8 8 11 40 46 32 -6
18 Southampton 28 6 13 9 40 46 31 -6
19 Crystal Palace 29 7 9 13 21 31 30 -10
20 West Ham Utd. 29 8 5 16 27 39 29 -12
21 Ipswich Town 29 6 5 18 31 58 23 -27
22 Leicester City 29 4 8 17 31 54 20 -23
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13.606 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Mar 06 1995 14:41 | 48 |
| Wed 1st Mar
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 Newcastle Utd.
Sat 4th Mar
Aston Villa 0 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Leeds Utd. 0 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
Leicester City 2 - 2 Everton
Liverpool 2 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Man. Utd. 9 - 0 Ipswich Town
Norwich City 1 - 1 Man. City
Nott'm Forest 2 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton 0 - 0 Coventry City
Wimbledon 1 - 3 Q.P.R.
Sun 5th Mar
Arsenal 0 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Chelsea 0 - 0 Crystal Palace
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 31 21 6 4 64 26 69 38
2 Man. Utd. 31 20 6 5 62 22 66 40
3 Newcastle Utd. 31 16 9 6 52 33 57 19
4 Liverpool 29 15 9 5 50 23 54 27
5 Nott'm Forest 31 13 9 9 44 35 48 9
6 Tottenham Hotspur 29 12 8 9 48 42 44 6
7 Leeds Utd. 29 11 10 8 35 29 43 6
8 Sheffield Wed. 31 11 9 11 40 40 42 0
9 Arsenal 31 10 10 11 35 33 40 2
10 Wimbledon 30 11 6 13 36 53 39 -17
11 Aston Villa 32 9 11 12 46 46 38 0
12 Coventry City 31 9 11 11 33 47 38 -14
13 Chelsea 29 9 10 10 37 39 37 -2
14 Norwich City 30 9 10 11 28 34 37 -6
15 Man. City 30 9 10 11 38 45 37 -7
16 Q.P.R. 28 9 8 11 43 47 35 -4
17 Everton 31 8 11 12 32 41 35 -9
18 Southampton 29 6 14 9 40 46 32 -6
19 West Ham Utd. 30 9 5 16 28 39 32 -11
20 Crystal Palace 30 7 10 13 21 31 31 -10
21 Ipswich Town 31 6 5 20 31 69 23 -38
22 Leicester City 30 4 9 17 33 56 21 -23
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13.607 | More results | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Wed Mar 22 1995 20:22 | 43 |
| Mon 6th
Aston Villa 0 - 0 Coventry City
Tue 7th
Wimbledon 0 - 1 Man. Utd.
Wed 8th
Blackburn Rovers 3 - 1 Arsenal
Man. City 1 - 2 Chelsea
Newcastle Utd. 2 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Norwich City 0 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Nott'm Forest 2 - 1 Everton
Q.P.R. 2 - 0 Leicester City
Tottenham Hotspur 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 32 22 6 4 67 27 72 40
2 Man. Utd. 32 21 6 5 63 22 69 41
3 Newcastle Utd. 32 17 9 6 54 33 60 21
4 Liverpool 29 15 9 5 50 23 54 27
5 Nott'm Forest 32 14 9 9 46 36 51 10
6 Tottenham Hotspur 30 13 8 9 51 42 47 9
7 Leeds Utd. 29 11 10 8 35 29 43 6
8 Sheffield Wed. 32 11 10 11 40 40 43 0
9 Arsenal 32 10 10 12 36 36 40 0
10 Chelsea 30 10 10 10 39 40 40 -1
11 Aston Villa 33 9 12 12 46 46 39 0
12 Coventry City 32 9 12 11 33 47 39 -14
13 Wimbledon 31 11 6 14 36 54 39 -18
14 Q.P.R. 29 10 8 11 45 47 38 -2
15 Norwich City 31 9 11 11 28 34 38 -6
16 Man. City 31 9 10 12 39 47 37 -8
17 Everton 32 8 11 13 33 43 35 -10
18 Southampton 29 6 14 9 40 46 32 -6
19 West Ham Utd. 31 9 5 17 28 41 32 -13
20 Crystal Palace 30 7 10 13 21 31 31 -10
21 Ipswich Town 32 6 5 21 31 72 23 -41
22 Leicester City 31 4 9 18 33 58 21 -25
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13.608 | Sat 11th Mar | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Wed Mar 22 1995 20:24 | 31 |
| Chelsea 0 - 3 Leeds Utd.
Coventry City 1 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Leicester City 2 - 4 Nott'm Forest
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 1 Wimbledon
West Ham Utd. 2 - 2 Norwich City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 33 22 7 4 68 28 73 40
2 Man. Utd. 32 21 6 5 63 22 69 41
3 Newcastle Utd. 32 17 9 6 54 33 60 21
4 Liverpool 29 15 9 5 50 23 54 27
5 Nott'm Forest 33 15 9 9 50 38 54 12
6 Tottenham Hotspur 30 13 8 9 51 42 47 9
7 Leeds Utd. 30 12 10 8 38 29 46 9
8 Sheffield Wed. 33 11 10 12 40 41 43 -1
9 Wimbledon 32 12 6 14 37 54 42 -17
10 Arsenal 32 10 10 12 36 36 40 0
11 Chelsea 31 10 10 11 39 43 40 -4
12 Coventry City 33 9 13 11 34 48 40 -14
13 Aston Villa 33 9 12 12 46 46 39 0
14 Norwich City 32 9 12 11 30 36 39 -6
15 Q.P.R. 29 10 8 11 45 47 38 -2
16 Man. City 31 9 10 12 39 47 37 -8
17 Everton 32 8 11 13 33 43 35 -10
18 West Ham Utd. 32 9 6 17 30 43 33 -13
19 Southampton 29 6 14 9 40 46 32 -6
20 Crystal Palace 30 7 10 13 21 31 31 -10
21 Ipswich Town 32 6 5 21 31 72 23 -41
22 Leicester City 32 4 9 19 35 62 21 -27
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13.609 | 14th & 15th Mar | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Wed Mar 22 1995 20:37 | 38 |
| 14th Mar
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Sheffield Wed.
15th Mar
Everton 1 - 1 Man. City
Leicester City 1 - 3 Leeds Utd.
Liverpool 2 - 3 Coventry City
Man. Utd. 0 - 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Q.P.R. 2 - 0 Norwich City
Southampton 1 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 33 22 7 4 68 28 73 40
2 Man. Utd. 33 21 7 5 63 22 70 41
3 Newcastle Utd. 32 17 9 6 54 33 60 21
4 Liverpool 30 15 9 6 52 26 54 26
5 Nott'm Forest 33 15 9 9 50 38 54 12
6 Leeds Utd. 31 13 10 8 41 30 49 11
7 Tottenham Hotspur 31 13 9 9 51 42 48 9
8 Sheffield Wed. 34 11 10 13 41 43 43 -2
9 Coventry City 34 10 13 11 37 50 43 -13
10 Wimbledon 32 12 6 14 37 54 42 -17
11 Q.P.R. 30 11 8 11 47 47 41 0
12 Arsenal 32 10 10 12 36 36 40 0
13 Chelsea 31 10 10 11 39 43 40 -4
14 Aston Villa 33 9 12 12 46 46 39 0
15 Norwich City 33 9 12 12 30 38 39 -8
16 Man. City 32 9 11 12 40 48 38 -8
17 Everton 33 8 12 13 34 44 36 -10
18 Crystal Palace 31 8 10 13 23 32 34 -9
19 West Ham Utd. 33 9 7 17 31 44 34 -13
20 Southampton 30 6 15 9 41 47 33 -6
21 Ipswich Town 32 6 5 21 31 72 23 -41
22 Leicester City 33 4 9 20 36 65 21 -29
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13.610 | Week 34 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Wed Mar 22 1995 20:42 | 46 |
| Sat 18th
Aston Villa 0 - 2 West Ham Utd.
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 1 Chelsea
Leeds Utd. 3 - 0 Coventry City
Man. City 3 - 2 Sheffield Wed.
Nott'm Forest 3 - 0 Southampton
Q.P.R. 2 - 3 Everton
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 0 Leicester City
Wimbledon 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Sun 19th
Liverpool 2 - 0 Man. Utd.
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 0 Arsenal
Mon 20th
Norwich City 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 34 23 7 4 70 29 76 41
2 Man. Utd. 34 21 7 6 63 24 70 39
3 Newcastle Utd. 33 18 9 6 55 33 63 22
4 Liverpool 31 16 9 6 54 26 57 28
5 Nott'm Forest 34 16 9 9 53 38 57 15
6 Leeds Utd. 32 14 10 8 44 30 52 14
7 Tottenham Hotspur 32 14 9 9 52 42 51 10
8 Wimbledon 33 13 6 14 39 54 45 -15
9 Sheffield Wed. 35 11 10 14 43 46 43 -3
10 Coventry City 35 10 13 12 37 53 43 -16
11 Norwich City 34 10 12 12 33 38 42 -5
12 Q.P.R. 31 11 8 12 49 50 41 -1
13 Man. City 33 10 11 12 43 50 41 -7
14 Arsenal 33 10 10 13 36 37 40 -1
15 Chelsea 32 10 10 12 40 45 40 -5
16 Aston Villa 34 9 12 13 46 48 39 -2
17 Everton 34 9 12 13 37 46 39 -9
18 West Ham Utd. 34 10 7 17 33 44 37 -11
19 Crystal Palace 32 8 10 14 23 34 34 -11
20 Southampton 31 6 15 10 41 50 33 -9
21 Ipswich Town 33 6 5 22 31 75 23 -44
22 Leicester City 34 4 9 21 36 66 21 -30
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13.611 | | GENIE::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon - 761 4831 | Thu Mar 23 1995 12:04 | 4 |
|
Anyone care to enter last night's results? Please.
JBG
|
13.612 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Lovely day for a Guinness | Thu Mar 23 1995 12:06 | 7 |
| some that I remember....
QPR 1-0 Chelsea....(yeeessss, QPR up to 9th....)
ManU 3-0 Arse....
NottsF 3-0 Leeds....
Ray....
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13.613 | ok | TRUCKS::SANT | There is a canal far away - Far Canal! | Thu Mar 23 1995 12:07 | 12 |
|
from memory...
United 3 Arse nil
Southampton 3 Newcastle 1 (0-1 with 5 mins to go!)
Forest 3 Leeds 0
Spurs 0 Liverpool 0
QPR 1 Chelsea 0
Think that's it...
Andy.
|
13.614 | Midweek Results & table!!! | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Thu Mar 23 1995 20:41 | 37 |
| Tue 21st
Wimbledon 2 - 0 Man. City
Wed 22nd
Man. Utd. 3 - 0 Arsenal
Nott'm Forest 3 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Q.P.R. 1 - 0 Chelsea
Southampton 3 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 0 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 34 23 7 4 70 29 76 41
2 Man. Utd. 35 22 7 6 66 24 73 42
3 Newcastle Utd. 34 18 9 7 56 36 63 20
4 Nott'm Forest 35 17 9 9 56 38 60 18
5 Liverpool 32 16 10 6 54 26 58 28
6 Leeds Utd. 33 14 10 9 44 33 52 11
7 Tottenham Hotspur 33 14 10 9 52 42 52 10
8 Wimbledon 34 14 6 14 41 54 48 -13
9 Q.P.R. 32 12 8 12 50 50 44 0
10 Sheffield Wed. 35 11 10 14 43 46 43 -3
11 Coventry City 35 10 13 12 37 53 43 -16
12 Norwich City 34 10 12 12 33 38 42 -5
13 Man. City 34 10 11 13 43 52 41 -9
14 Arsenal 34 10 10 14 36 40 40 -4
15 Chelsea 33 10 10 13 40 46 40 -6
16 Aston Villa 34 9 12 13 46 48 39 -2
17 Everton 34 9 12 13 37 46 39 -9
18 West Ham Utd. 34 10 7 17 33 44 37 -11
19 Southampton 32 7 15 10 44 51 36 -7
20 Crystal Palace 32 8 10 14 23 34 34 -11
21 Ipswich Town 33 6 5 22 31 75 23 -44
22 Leicester City 34 4 9 21 36 66 21 -30
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13.615 | Week 36 | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon Apr 03 1995 22:44 | 41 |
| Sat 1st
Arsenal 5 - 1 Norwich City
Chelsea 1 - 1 Newcastle Utd.
Coventry City 0 - 1 Q.P.R.
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Man. City
Everton 1 - 2 Blackburn Rovers
Ipswich Town 0 - 1 Aston Villa
Leicester City 3 - 4 Wimbledon
Sheffield Wed. 1 - 7 Nott'm Forest
Sun 2nd
Man. Utd. 0 - 0 Leeds Utd.
Southampton 4 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 35 24 7 4 72 30 79 42
2 Man. Utd. 36 22 8 6 66 24 74 42
3 Newcastle Utd. 35 18 10 7 57 37 64 20
4 Nott'm Forest 36 18 9 9 63 39 63 24
5 Liverpool 32 16 10 6 54 26 58 28
6 Leeds Utd. 34 14 11 9 44 33 53 11
7 Tottenham Hotspur 34 14 10 10 55 46 52 9
8 Wimbledon 35 15 6 14 45 57 51 -12
9 Q.P.R. 33 13 8 12 51 50 47 1
10 Arsenal 35 11 10 14 41 41 43 0
11 Sheffield Wed. 36 11 10 15 44 53 43 -9
12 Coventry City 36 10 13 13 37 54 43 -17
13 Aston Villa 35 10 12 13 47 48 42 -1
14 Norwich City 35 10 12 13 34 43 42 -9
15 Chelsea 34 10 11 13 41 47 41 -6
16 Man. City 35 10 11 14 44 54 41 -10
17 Southampton 33 8 15 10 48 54 39 -6
18 Everton 35 9 12 14 38 48 39 -10
19 Crystal Palace 33 9 10 14 25 35 37 -10
20 West Ham Utd. 34 10 7 17 33 44 37 -11
21 Ipswich Town 34 6 5 23 31 76 23 -45
22 Leicester City 35 4 9 22 39 70 21 -31
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13.616 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Wed Apr 12 1995 16:49 | 36 |
| Not too sure of the results over the last week or so:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, or missed some
Cheers
Al
Wed 5 Apr 95
Leeds United 4 - 0 Ipswich Town
Leicester City 1 - 0 Norwich City
Liverpool 3 - 1 Southampton
Sat 8 Apr 95
Newcastle United 3 - 0 Norwich City
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 West Ham United
Queen's Park Rangers 3 - 1 Arsenal
Sheffield Wednesday 1 - 0 Leicester City
Sun 9 Apr 95
Liverpool 0 - 1 Leeds United
Mon 10 Apr 95
Wimbledon 1 - 1 Chelsea
Tue 11 Apr 95
Ipswich Town 0 - 1 Queen's Park Rangers
Table to follow later
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13.617 | | FORTY2::ABRAHAMS | | Wed Apr 12 1995 17:35 | 3 |
| Tue 11 Apr 95
Spurs 2 Man City 1
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13.618 | hope everton win the cup and go down! | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Buddha say: Desire nothing | Thu Apr 13 1995 13:24 | 5 |
|
Any chance of an updated premier league table anyone?
Ian.
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13.619 | Relegation for half the table! | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Runnin' on Empty | Thu Apr 13 1995 15:29 | 44 |
| Thought it might be interesting to post the final games of the most
obvious relegation candidates (Ipswich & Leicester excepted)
West Ham Palace Everton Norwich
H Wombles H Spurs H Newcastle A Spurs
A Ipswich A QPR A Sheff Weds H Liverpool
H Blackburn A Blackburn H Wombles A Leeds
H QPR H Forest H Chelsea H Villa
A Palace H West Ham H Southampton
H Liverpool A Leeds A Ipswich
H Man Utd A Newcastle A Coventry
Man City Arsenal Southampton Coventry
H Liverpool H Ipswich H QPR H Sheff Weds
A Blackburn A Villa A Wombles A Forest
H Newcastle H Spurs H Sheff Weds H Man Utd
A Villa H Wombles H Palace A Ipswich
A Forest A Chelsea A Everton A Spurs
H QPR A Man Utd H Everton
H Leicester
Chelsea Villa
H Villa A Chelsea
A Man Utd H Arsenal
H QPR A Leeds
A Everton H Man City
A Leicester H Liverpool
H Arsenal A Norwich
I reckon that these 10 teams are still in it up to their necks. None
have got more than 43 points with 48-50 the safety line. They are also
all playing one another, so there are a huge number of big 6 pointers
coming up.
My bet?
Norwich & West Ham
but then I'm a Palace fan afterall!
Paul
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13.620 | Missing Match | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Runnin' on Empty | Thu Apr 13 1995 15:32 | 3 |
| Sorry - missed out Palace away to Southampton between Forest & West ham
Paul
|
13.621 | Spurs/Coventry match | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | John Hussey - Dunure's great | Thu Apr 13 1995 15:59 | 4 |
| Anyone know the date of the Spurs v Coventry match? I have Spurs at home
to Newcastle where Stuart got this match.
Thanks
|
13.622 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Pass the Babel Fish | Thu Apr 13 1995 16:04 | 10 |
| Paul,
Thanks for that list, it cheered me up no end seeing the others run-ins
were all more tricky than ours esp. as it looks like most teams will be
playing Sat - Weds - Sat until the end of the season.
Joining Leicester & Ipswich in the Endsleigh next season? My guess is
Norwich and Manchester City.
Stuart
|
13.623 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Thu Apr 13 1995 16:11 | 31 |
| Arsenal 0 - 1 Liverpool
Chelsea 0 - 2 Southampton
Norwich City 0 - 1 Nott'm Forest
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 36 25 7 4 73 30 82 43
2 Man. Utd. 36 22 8 6 66 24 74 42
3 Nott'm Forest 38 19 10 9 65 40 67 25
4 Newcastle Utd. 36 19 10 7 60 37 67 23
5 Liverpool 35 18 10 7 58 28 64 30
6 Leeds Utd. 36 16 11 9 49 33 59 16
7 Tottenham Hotspur 35 15 10 10 57 47 55 10
8 Q.P.R. 36 15 8 13 55 52 53 3
9 Wimbledon 36 15 7 14 46 58 52 -12
10 Sheffield Wed. 37 12 10 15 45 53 46 -8
11 Aston Villa 36 10 13 13 47 48 43 -1
12 Arsenal 37 11 10 16 42 45 43 -3
13 Coventry City 36 10 13 13 37 54 43 -17
14 Southampton 35 9 15 11 51 57 42 -6
15 Chelsea 36 10 12 14 42 50 42 -8
16 Norwich City 38 10 12 16 34 48 42 -14
17 Man. City 36 10 11 15 45 56 41 -11
18 Everton 35 9 12 14 38 48 39 -10
19 Crystal Palace 34 9 11 14 25 35 38 -10
20 West Ham Utd. 35 10 8 17 34 45 38 -11
21 Leicester City 37 5 9 23 40 71 24 -31
22 Ipswich Town 36 6 5 25 31 81 23 -50
Not too sure if the table is up to date!!!
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13.624 | My guess | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | John Hussey - Dunure's great | Thu Apr 13 1995 16:37 | 2 |
| I'm going for Palace & Norwich for the drop. If the Hammers don't pick
up a win this weekend I'll change my mind and go for them.
|
13.625 | "When the going gets tough...Chelsea lose" | YUPPY::ASHLEYSMITH | A.O.B. Mr Aitken? | Thu Apr 13 1995 17:37 | 9 |
| I thought that Chelsea would get a victory at home to Southampton
last night. Not to be. They leap-frogged us and relegation looms for
a side that cannot win at home and appear not able to beat fellow
Endsleigh candidates. Villa coming up next and then a trip to Old
Trafford.
Andy
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13.626 | | TUXEDO::HINXMAN | Dreadful human being | Thu Apr 13 1995 18:49 | 4 |
| I agree. Losing at home to Southampton is usually a sign that a team
is in deep trouble.
Tony$long_suffering_Saints_fan
|
13.627 | Fri/Sat games | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Tue Apr 18 1995 18:38 | 36 |
| Arsenal 4 - 1 Ipswich Town
Chelsea 1 - 0 Aston Villa
Coventry City 2 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Everton 2 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Leeds Utd. 1 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Leicester City 0 - 4 Man. Utd.
Man. City 2 - 1 Liverpool
Southampton 2 - 1 Q.P.R.
West Ham Utd. 3 - 0 Wimbledon
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 37 25 8 4 74 31 83 43
2 Man. Utd. 37 23 8 6 70 24 77 46
3 Nott'm Forest 38 19 10 9 65 40 67 25
4 Newcastle Utd. 37 19 10 8 60 39 67 21
5 Liverpool 36 18 10 8 59 30 64 29
6 Leeds Utd. 37 16 12 9 50 34 60 16
7 Tottenham Hotspur 36 15 11 10 58 48 56 10
8 Q.P.R. 37 15 8 14 56 54 53 2
9 Wimbledon 37 15 7 15 46 61 52 -15
10 Arsenal 38 12 10 16 46 46 46 0
11 Sheffield Wed. 38 12 10 16 45 55 46 -10
12 Coventry City 37 11 13 13 39 54 46 -15
13 Southampton 36 10 15 11 53 58 45 -5
14 Chelsea 37 11 12 14 43 50 45 -7
15 Man. City 37 11 11 15 47 57 44 -10
16 Aston Villa 37 10 13 14 47 49 43 -2
17 Everton 36 10 12 14 40 48 42 -8
18 Norwich City 38 10 12 16 34 48 42 -14
19 West Ham Utd. 36 11 8 17 37 45 41 -8
20 Crystal Palace 35 9 12 14 26 36 39 -10
21 Leicester City 38 5 9 24 40 75 24 -35
22 Ipswich Town 37 6 5 26 32 85 23 -53
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13.628 | Yesterday's results | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Tue Apr 18 1995 19:07 | 46 |
| Aston Villa 0 - 4 Arsenal
Blackburn Rovers 2 - 3 Man. City
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 West Ham Utd.
Liverpool 2 - 0 Leicester City
Man. Utd. 0 - 0 Chelsea
Newcastle Utd. 1 - 2 Leeds Utd.
Nott'm Forest 2 - 0 Coventry City
Q.P.R. 0 - 1 Crystal Palace
Sheffield Wed. 0 - 0 Everton
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 0 Norwich City
Wimbledon 0 - 2 Southampton
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD Max
1 Blackburn Rovers 38 25 8 5 76 34 83 42 95
------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Man. Utd. 38 23 9 6 70 24 78 46 90
3 Nott'm Forest 39 20 10 9 67 40 70 27 79
4 Liverpool 37 19 10 8 61 30 67 31 82 #
5 Newcastle Utd. 38 19 10 9 61 41 67 20 79
6 Leeds Utd. 38 17 12 9 52 35 63 17 75
7 Tottenham Hotspur 37 16 11 10 59 48 59 11 74
8 Q.P.R. 38 15 8 15 56 55 53 1 65
9 Wimbledon 38 15 7 16 46 63 52 -17 64
10 Arsenal 39 13 10 16 50 46 49 4 58
11 Southampton 37 11 15 11 55 58 48 -3 63
12 Man. City 38 12 11 15 50 59 47 -9 59
13 Sheffield Wed. 39 12 11 16 45 55 47 -10 56
14 Chelsea 38 11 13 14 43 50 46 -7 58
15 Coventry City 38 11 13 14 39 56 46 -17 58
16 Aston Villa 38 10 13 15 47 53 43 -6 55
17 Everton 37 10 13 14 40 48 43 -8 58
18 West Ham Utd. 37 11 9 17 38 46 42 -8 57
------------------------------------------------------------------------
19 Crystal Palace 36 10 12 14 27 36 42 -9 60
20 Norwich City 39 10 12 17 34 49 42 -15 51
21 Leicester City 39 5 9 25 40 77 24 -37 33 *
22 Ipswich Town 38 6 6 26 33 86 24 -53 36 *
How many UEFA places do we get this year????
* Relegated
# UEFA Cup (CCC winners)
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13.629 | | GENIE::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon - 761 4831 | Tue Apr 18 1995 20:02 | 8 |
|
I think we have 4 UEFA places for next year. Liverpool already have
theirs (CCC) leaving ManU, Forest & Newcastle currently in possession
of the other 3. Of course, if ManU retain the FA Cup they will play in
the CWC, leaving a place for te 6th placed team (currently Leeds) in
the UEFA cup.....assuming Blackburn haven't rolled over & given up!
Spur's are currently 8 points adrift of a guarenteed place in the
UEFA cup.
|
13.630 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Fri Apr 21 1995 17:08 | 29 |
| Blackburn Rovers 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 39 26 8 5 78 35 86 43
------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Man. Utd. 38 23 9 6 70 24 78 46
3 Nott'm Forest 39 20 10 9 67 40 70 27
4 Liverpool 37 19 10 8 61 30 67 31 *
5 Newcastle Utd. 38 19 10 9 61 41 67 20
6 Leeds Utd. 38 17 12 9 52 35 63 17
7 Tottenham Hotspur 37 16 11 10 59 48 59 11
8 Q.P.R. 38 15 8 15 56 55 53 1
9 Wimbledon 38 15 7 16 46 63 52 -17
10 Arsenal 39 13 10 16 50 46 49 4
11 Southampton 37 11 15 11 55 58 48 -3
12 Man. City 38 12 11 15 50 59 47 -9
13 Sheffield Wed. 39 12 11 16 45 55 47 -10
14 Chelsea 38 11 13 14 43 50 46 -7
15 Coventry City 38 11 13 14 39 56 46 -17
16 Aston Villa 38 10 13 15 47 53 43 -6
17 Everton 37 10 13 14 40 48 43 -8
18 West Ham Utd. 37 11 9 17 38 46 42 -8
------------------------------------------------------------------------
19 Crystal Palace 37 10 12 15 28 38 42 -10
20 Norwich City 39 10 12 17 34 49 42 -15
21 Leicester City 39 5 9 25 40 77 24 -37 R
22 Ipswich Town 38 6 6 26 33 86 24 -53 R
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13.631 | | HBFDT1::SCHARNBERG | Senior Kodierwurst | Wed Apr 26 1995 14:58 | 4 |
| It would be interesting (for people without a real life, e.g. me) to
have a list of English league champions, 1994-1066 (or whatever date).
Heiko
|
13.632 | | TRUCKS::SANT | No sleep 'til bedtime | Wed Apr 26 1995 15:18 | 30 |
|
I'll have a bash...test the old memory ;-)
25 years' worth...
94 Man Utd
93 Man Utd
92 Leeds Utd
91 Arsenal
90 Liverpool
89 Arsenal
88 Liverpool
87 Everton
86 Liverpool
85 Everton
84 Liverpool
83 Liverpool
82 Liverpool
81 Aston Villa
80 Liverpool
79 Nottm Forest
78 Nottm Forest
77 Liverpool
76 Liverpool
75 Derby County
74 Leeds Utd
73 Liverpool
72 Derby County
71 Arsenal
|
13.633 | A query | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | John Hussey - Dunure's great | Wed Apr 26 1995 15:38 | 1 |
| Didn't Forest only win the league once? They won the EC twice.
|
13.634 | MIGHTY REDS! | COMICS::HAWLEYI | and the horse you rode in on! | Wed Apr 26 1995 15:42 | 7 |
| Andy,
You must have really enjoyed having to type Liverpool so many times!
And i agree about nottingham forest...didnt LIVERPOOL win it that year
as well?
Ian.
|
13.635 | im still cute | COMICS::HAWLEYI | and the horse you rode in on! | Wed Apr 26 1995 15:44 | 5 |
| > didnt LIVERPOOL win it that year as well?
That year being 1979. Or am I dreaming? I was only 8 after all.
Ian.
|
13.636 | | HBFDT1::SCHARNBERG | Senior Kodierwurst | Wed Apr 26 1995 16:02 | 7 |
| Thanks.
The fun is, of course, looking way back in history, when teams won the
championship who have since dropped into Div.3.
Just as FC Magdeburg, 70-something UEFA cup winner, now struggling in
German Div.4 (Oberliga).
|
13.637 | | VNACO1::HERIBERT | | Wed Apr 26 1995 16:13 | 6 |
| Heiko,
Has Juergen Sparwasser (I believe, I remember his 1:0 against Germany
in Munich 1974 ?) played for this FC Magdeburg ?
Heribert
|
13.638 | | HBFDT1::SCHARNBERG | Senior Kodierwurst | Wed Apr 26 1995 16:53 | 7 |
| It was Sparwasser, of course.
I don't know where he played. The GDR eventually started to gather all
quality players at FC Dynamo Ost-Berlin, maybe he played there, maybe
they started this technique of quality-improvement later than '74.
No idea.
Heiko
|
13.639 | Please note copyright on last line | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Wed Apr 26 1995 21:39 | 355 |
| English Football Champions 1889-1994
Champions
1889-1915
1920-1939
1947-1992
1993-1994
Summaries
1889-1939
1947-1994
Overall summary
Current divisons of former champions
Wartime Champions (unofficial)
1915-1919
1940-1946
About this document
Football League Champions 1889-1915
1889 *Preston NE
1890 -Preston NE
1891 *Everton
1892 *Sunderland
1893 Sunderland
1894 Aston Villa
1895 Sunderland
1896 Aston Villa
1897 Aston Villa
1898 *-Sheffield United
1899 Aston Villa
1900 Aston Villa
1901 *Liverpool
1902 Sunderland
1903 *The Wednesday
1904 The Wednesday
1905 *Newcastle United
1906 Liverpool
1907 Newcastle United
1908 *Manchester United
1909 Newcastle United
1910 Aston Villa
1911 Manchester United
1912 *Blackburn Rovers
1913 Sunderland
1914 -Blackburn Rovers
1915 Everton
* indicates club's first title
- indicates club's last title
Index| Summary 1889| Champions 1920| War 1915
Football League Champions 1920-39
1920 *-West Bromwich Albion
1921 *Burnley
1922 Liverpool
1923 Liverpool
1924 *Huddersfield Town
1925 Huddersfield Town
1926 -Huddersfield Town
1927 -Newcastle United
1928 Everton
1929 The Wednesday
1930 -Sheffield Wednesday
1931 *Arsenal
1932 Everton
1933 Arsenal
1934 Arsenal
1935 Arsenal
1936 -Sunderland
1937 *Manchester City
1938 Arsenal
1939 Everton
* indicates club's first title
- indicates club's last title
Index| Champions 1889| Champions 1947| Summary 1889| War 1940
Summary 1889-1939 (47 championships)
6 Sunderland, Aston Villa
5 Everton, Arsenal
4 Liverpool, Newcastle United, The Wednesday/Sheffield Wednesday
3 Huddersfield Town
2 Preston North End, Manchester United, Blackburn Rovers
1 Sheffield United, West Bromwich Albion, Burnley, Manchester City
Index| Champions 1920| Champions 1947
Football League Champions 1947-1992
1947 Liverpool
1948 Arsenal
1949 *Portsmouth
1950 -Portsmouth
1951 *Tottenham Hostpur
1952 Manchester United
1953 Arsenal
1954 *Wolverhampton Wanderers
1955 *-Chelsea
1956 Manchester United
1957 Manchester United
1958 Wolverhampton Wanderers
1959 -Wolverhampton Wanderers
1960 -Burnley
1961 -Tottenham Hotspur
1962 *-Ipswich Town
1963 Everton
1964 Liverpool
1965 Manchester United
1966 Liverpool
1967 Manchester United
1968 -Manchester City
1969 *Leeds United
1970 Everton
1971 Arsenal
1972 *Derby County
1973 Liverpool
1974 Leeds United
1975 -Derby County
1976 Liverpool
1977 Liverpool
1978 *-Nottingham Forest
1979 Liverpool
1980 Liverpool
1981 -Aston Villa
1982 Liverpool
1983 Liverpool
1984 Liverpool
1985 Everton
1986 Liverpool
1987 -Everton
1988 Liverpool
1989 Arsenal
1990 -Liverpool
1991 -Arsenal
1992 -Leeds United
* indicates club's first title
- indicates club's last title
Index| Champions 1920| Champions 1993| Summary 1947
FA Premier League Champions 1993-94
In 1992 the 22 Division One clubs resigned en masse from the Football League and formed the FA Premier
League. At the end of the 1991-92 season promotion and relegation took place as normal between Div 1 and
Div 2 and the 22 clubs which would have formed Div 1 of the Football League for season 1992-93 became the
founder members of the new FA Premier League.
1993 Manchester United
1994 -Manchester United
* indicates club's first title
- indicates club's last title
Index| Champions 1947| Summary 1947
Summary 1947-94 (48 championships)
14 Liverpool
7 Manchester United
5 Arsenal
4 Everton
3 Wolverhampton Wanderers, Leeds United
2 Portsmouth, Tottenham Hotspur, Derby County
1 Chelsea, Burnley, Ipswich Town, Manchester City, Nottingham Forest,
Aston Villa
Index| Champions 1993| Overall summary
Summary 1889-1994 (95 championships)
18 Liverpool
10 Arsenal
9 Everton, Manchester United
7 Aston Villa
6 Sunderland
4 Newcastle United, The Wednesday/Sheffield Wednesday
3 Huddersfield Town, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Leeds United
2 Preston North End, Blackburn Rovers, Portsmouth, Burnley,
Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester City, Derby County
1 Sheffield United, West Bromwich Albion, Chelsea, Ipswich Town,
Nottingham Forest
Index| Champions 1889| Champions 1993| Current divs
Current divisions of former champions
Prem: Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton, Manchester United, Aston Villa,
Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds United, Blackburn Rovers, Tottenham Hotspur,
Manchester City, Chelsea, Ipswich Town, Newcastle United,
Nottingham Forest
1st: Sunderland, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Derby County, Burnley, Portsmouth,
West Bromwich Albion, Sheffield United
2nd: Huddersfield Town
3rd: Preston North End
Former champions who've since played in the lowest division are Sheffield
United, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Portsmouth, Huddersfield Town, Preston North
End and Burnley.
Index| Champions 1889| Champions 1993| Overall summary
Wartime Champions 1915-1919
The Football League closed down at the end of the 1914-15 season until the end of the war. Two regional
leagues were organised for the Midlands and Lancashire and London clubs formed their own competition. In
1918 and 1919 the Midlands and Lancashire champions met over two legs in unofficial championship matches
(these titles are not counted in clubs championship totals).
1915-16
Lancashire Section
Principal tournament: Manchester City
Subsidiary tournaments:
Northern division: Burnley
Southern division: Manchester City
Midland Section
Principal tournament: Nottingham Forest
Subsidiary tournaments:
Northern division: Leeds City
Southern division: Nottingham Forest
Midland division: Grimsby Town
London Combination
Principal tournament: Chelsea
Supplementary tournament: Chelsea
South-Western Combination Portsmouth
1916-17
Lancashire Section
Principal tournament: Liverpool
Subsidiary tournament: Rochdale
Midland Section
Principal tournament: Leeds City
Susidiary tournament: Bradford (Park Avenue)
London Combination West Ham United
1917-18
Lancashire Section
Principal tournament: Stoke
Subsidiary tournament: Liverpool
Midland Section
Principal tournament: Leeds City
Subsidiary tournament: Grimsby Town
London Combination Chelsea
League Championship Cup Play-off
First leg: Leeds City (2) 2 Stoke (0) 0
Second leg: Stoke (0) 1 Leeds City (0) 0
Leeds won on goal average
1918-19
Lancashire Section
Principal tournament: Everton
Subsidiary tournaments:
Section A: Blackpool
Section B: Oldham Athletic
Section C: Manchester City
Section D: Liverpool
Midland Section
Principal tournament: Nottingham Forest
Subsidiary tournaments:
Section A: Sheffield United
Section B: Birmingham
Section C: Bradford (Park Avenue)
Section D: Hull City
London Combination Brentford
League Championship Cup Play-off
First leg: Nottingham Forest 0 Everton 0
Second leg: Everton 0 Nottingham Forest 1
Forest won overall
Index| Champions 1920| War 1940
Wartime Champions 1940-46
Normal league competition was suspended on declaration of war in 1939 and alternative regional leagues were
organised.
1939-40
Midland League: Wolverhampton Wanderers
West League: Stoke City
North-East League: Huddersfield Town
North-West League: Bury
South League 'A': Arsenal
South League 'B': Queen's Park Rangers
South League 'C': Tottenham Hotspur
South League 'D': Crystal Palace
South-West League: Plymouth Argyle
East Midland League: Chesterfield
1940-41
Northern Regional League: Preston North End
Southern Regional League: Crystal Palace
1941-42
League North: Blackpool
League South: Leicester City
London League: Arsenal
1942-43
League North: Blackpool
League South: Arsenal
League West: Lovells Athletic
1943-44
League North: Blackpool
League South: Tottenham Hotspur
League West Lovells Athletic
1944-45
League North: Huddesfield Town
League South: Tottenham Hotspur
League West: Cardiff City
1945-46
League North: Sheffield United
League South: Birmingham City
Index| Champions 1947| War 1915
About this document
Prepared and maintained by James M. Ross for the Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation
Author: James M. Ross
Email: jmr@zfe1.demon.co.uk (public); j.m.ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (work)
Last updated: 9 Feb 1995
(c) Copyright James M. Ross and RSSSF 1995
You are free to copy this document in whole or part provided that proper acknowledgement is given to the
author. All rights reserved.
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13.640 | Warning - Trivia Alert! | TRUCKS::SANT | No sleep 'til bedtime | Thu Apr 27 1995 14:42 | 4 |
|
Come on then - who the hell were Lovells Athletic?!?!?
Andy.
|
13.641 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Pass the Babel Fish | Thu Apr 27 1995 15:09 | 7 |
| > Come on then - who the hell were Lovells Athletic?!?!?
Andy,
Dunno but they were consistent!
Stuart
|
13.642 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon May 01 1995 14:38 | 45 |
| Sat 29th April
Arsenal 1 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 1 - 0 Q.P.R.
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Nott'm Forest
Everton 0 - 0 Wimbledon
Leeds Utd. 1 - 0 Aston Villa
Leicester City 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Man. City 0 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Norwich City 1 - 2 Liverpool
Southampton 0 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Sun 30th April
West Ham Utd. 2 - 0 Blackburn Rovers
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 40 26 8 6 78 37 86 41
2 Man. Utd. 38 23 9 6 70 24 78 46
3 Nott'm Forest 40 21 10 9 69 41 73 28
4 Liverpool 38 20 10 8 63 31 70 32
5 Newcastle Utd. 39 19 11 9 61 41 68 20
6 Leeds Utd. 39 18 12 9 53 35 66 18
7 Tottenham Hotspur 38 16 12 10 60 49 60 11
8 Q.P.R. 39 15 8 16 56 56 53 0
9 Wimbledon 39 15 8 16 46 63 53 -17
10 Arsenal 40 13 11 16 51 47 50 4
11 Southampton 38 11 16 11 55 58 49 -3
12 Chelsea 39 12 13 14 44 50 49 -6
13 Man. City 39 12 12 15 50 59 48 -9
14 Sheffield Wed. 40 12 12 16 45 55 48 -10
15 Coventry City 38 11 13 14 39 56 46 -17
16 West Ham Utd. 38 12 9 17 40 46 45 -6
17 Everton 38 10 14 14 40 48 44 -8
18 Aston Villa 39 10 13 16 47 54 43 -7
19 Crystal Palace 38 10 12 16 29 40 42 -11
20 Norwich City 40 10 12 18 35 51 42 -16
21 Leicester City 40 6 9 25 42 77 27 -35
22 Ipswich Town 39 6 6 27 33 88 24 -55
As if you didn't know, Tonight:
Coventry City V Manchester United
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13.643 | pwease | COMICS::HAWLEYI | and the horse you rode in on! | Thu May 04 1995 13:44 | 7 |
|
Could someone please enter the table showing the current state of play
at the bottom of the premiership?
The electronic telegraph is still showing the May 1st table...
Ian.
|
13.644 | | YUPPY::PANES | Reasons to be beerful part III | Thu May 04 1995 13:51 | 5 |
| re .643
I'd rather you didn't.
Stuart
|
13.645 | Drop Zone | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Runnin' on Empty | Thu May 04 1995 15:16 | 22 |
| Relegation Summary:
As Palace look doomed (I am very depressed this morning) I thought a
revised relegation options might cheer me up:
Team Pts Max Remaining Games
Norwich 42 48 Leeds A Villa H
Palace 42 51 WHU H Leeds A Newcastle A
Villa 44 50 Lpool H Norwich A
Everton 45 54 Soton H Ipswich A Coventry A
Coventry 46 55 Ipswich A Spurs A Everton H
WHU 46 55 Palace A Lpool H Man Utd H
Sheff Weds 48 54 Man U A Ipswich H
Man City 49 55 Forest A QPR H
As you can see, not everyone can get maximum points so 50 looks the
target for guaranteed safety. This Saturday should narrow it down,
probably to Villa, Palace & Wednesday going for one place. Either way,
Palace need 2 wins and a draw to feel secure. Fat chance.
Paul
|
13.646 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Pass the Babel Fish | Thu May 04 1995 15:46 | 9 |
| Paul,
I don't think Palace are in that bad a position (comparatively
speaking)! Villa will lose both of their remaining games so in theory
CP only need to beat West Ham on Saturday. Mind you Villa are rumoured
to be bidding for Shaquille O'Neal to partner Ehiogu after his little
effort last night!
Stuart
|
13.647 | | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Grimsby Liberation Front | Thu May 04 1995 17:30 | 4 |
| I expect the lads to beat Norwich away, but it's beginning to look a bit dodgy.
It's a good job we sacked Ron Atkinson (although not in any real sense). 8-(
Mike
|
13.648 | One Week to go | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Tue May 09 1995 20:04 | 93 |
| Mon 1st May
Coventry City 2 - 3 Man. Utd.
Tue 2nd May
Wimbledon 0 - 0 Liverpool
Wed 3rd May
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Man. City
Everton 3 - 3 Chelsea
Newcastle Utd. 3 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton 3 - 1 Crystal Palace
West Ham Utd. 0 - 0 Q.P.R.
Thur 4th May
Arsenal 0 - 0 Wimbledon
Sat 6th May
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Liverpool
Crystal Palace 1 - 0 West Ham Utd.
Everton 0 - 0 Southampton
Ipswich Town 2 - 0 Coventry City
Leeds Utd. 2 - 1 Norwich City
Leicester City 1 - 1 Chelsea
Nott'm Forest 1 - 0 Man. City
Q.P.R. 2 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
Sun 7th May
Man. Utd. 1 - 0 Sheffield Wed.
Mon 8th May
Blackburn Rovers 1 - 0 Newcastle Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 41 27 8 6 79 37 89 42
---------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Man. Utd. 40 25 9 6 74 26 84 48
3 Nott'm Forest 41 22 10 9 70 41 76 29 UEFA
4 Liverpool 40 20 11 9 63 33 71 30 UEFA
5 Newcastle Utd. 41 19 12 10 64 45 69 19
6 Leeds Utd. 40 19 12 9 55 36 69 19
7 Tottenham Hotspur 40 16 13 11 64 54 61 10
8 Q.P.R. 41 16 9 16 58 57 57 1
9 Wimbledon 41 15 10 16 46 63 55 -17
10 Southampton 40 12 17 11 58 59 53 -1
11 Arsenal 41 13 12 16 51 47 51 4
12 Chelsea 41 12 15 14 48 54 51 -6
13 Man. City 41 12 13 16 51 61 49 -10
14 Sheffield Wed. 41 12 12 17 45 56 48 -11
15 Aston Villa 41 11 14 16 50 55 47 -5
16 West Ham Utd. 40 12 10 18 40 47 46 -7
17 Everton 40 10 16 14 43 51 46 -8
18 Coventry City 40 11 13 16 41 61 46 -20
---------------------------------------------------------------------
19 Crystal Palace 40 11 12 17 31 43 45 -12
20 Norwich City 41 10 12 19 36 53 42 -17 R
21 Leicester City 41 6 10 25 43 78 28 -35 R
22 Ipswich Town 40 7 6 27 35 88 27 -53 R
Remaining Fixtures:
Tonight:
Ipswich Town v Everton
Leeds United v Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur v Coventry City
Tomorrow:
Manchester United v Southampton
West Ham United v Liverpool
Sunday:
Chelsea v Arsenal
Coventry City v Everton
Liverpool v Blackburn Rovers
Manchester City v Queen's Park Rangers
Newcastle United v Crystal Palace
Norwich City v Aston Villa
Sheffield Wednesday v Ipswich Town
Southampton v Leicester City
Tottenham Hotspur v Leeds United
West Ham United v Manchester United
Wimbledon v Nottingham Forest
|
13.649 | Mine of Mindless Information | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Runnin' on Empty | Tue May 09 1995 20:11 | 4 |
| Minor point - for some unknown reason the Wombles v Forest game is on
Saturday.
Paul
|
13.650 | Last nights games | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Wed May 10 1995 17:56 | 38 |
| Ipswich Town 0 - 1 Everton
Leeds Utd. 3 - 1 Crystal Palace
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 3 Coventry City
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 41 27 8 6 79 37 89 42
---------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Man. Utd. 40 25 9 6 74 26 84 48
3 Nott'm Forest 41 22 10 9 70 41 76 29 UEFA
4 Leeds Utd. 41 20 12 9 58 37 72 21
5 Liverpool 40 20 11 9 63 33 71 30 UEFA
6 Newcastle Utd. 41 19 12 10 64 45 69 19
7 Tottenham Hotspur 41 16 13 12 65 57 61 8
8 Q.P.R. 41 16 9 16 58 57 57 1
9 Wimbledon 41 15 10 16 46 63 55 -17
10 Southampton 40 12 17 11 58 59 53 -1
11 Arsenal 41 13 12 16 51 47 51 4
12 Chelsea 41 12 15 14 48 54 51 -6
13 Everton 41 11 16 14 44 51 49 -7
14 Man. City 41 12 13 16 51 61 49 -10
15 Coventry City 41 12 13 16 44 62 49 -18
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Safe ^
16 Sheffield Wed. 41 12 12 17 45 56 48 -11
17 Aston Villa 41 11 14 16 50 55 47 -5
18 West Ham Utd. 40 12 10 18 40 47 46 -7
---------------------------------------------------------------------
19 Crystal Palace 41 11 12 18 32 46 45 -14
20 Norwich City 41 10 12 19 36 53 42 -17 R
21 Leicester City 41 6 10 25 43 78 28 -35 R
22 Ipswich Town 41 7 6 28 35 89 27 -54 R
Tonight:
Manchester United v Southampton
West Ham United v Liverpool
|
13.651 | Wednesday's results | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon May 15 1995 19:29 | 28 |
| Man. Utd. 2 - 1 Southampton
West Ham Utd. 3 - 0 Liverpool
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 41 27 8 6 79 37 89 42
2 Man. Utd. 41 26 9 6 76 27 87 49
3 Nott'm Forest 41 22 10 9 70 41 76 29
4 Leeds Utd. 41 20 12 9 58 37 72 21
5 Liverpool 41 20 11 10 63 36 71 27
6 Newcastle Utd. 41 19 12 10 64 45 69 19
7 Tottenham Hotspur 41 16 13 12 65 57 61 8
8 Q.P.R. 41 16 9 16 58 57 57 1
9 Wimbledon 41 15 10 16 46 63 55 -17
10 Southampton 41 12 17 12 59 61 53 -2
11 Arsenal 41 13 12 16 51 47 51 4
12 Chelsea 41 12 15 14 48 54 51 -6
13 West Ham Utd. 41 13 10 18 43 47 49 -4
14 Everton 41 11 16 14 44 51 49 -7
15 Man. City 41 12 13 16 51 61 49 -10
16 Coventry City 41 12 13 16 44 62 49 -18
17 Sheffield Wed. 41 12 12 17 45 56 48 -11
18 Aston Villa 41 11 14 16 50 55 47 -5
19 Crystal Palace 41 11 12 18 32 46 45 -14
20 Norwich City 41 10 12 19 36 53 42 -17
21 Leicester City 41 6 10 25 43 78 28 -35
22 Ipswich Town 41 7 6 28 35 89 27 -54
|
13.652 | The last weekend - Congrats Blackburn | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon May 15 1995 19:36 | 48 |
| Sat 13th
Wimbledon 2 - 2 Nott'm Forest
Sun 14th
Chelsea 2 - 1 Arsenal
Coventry City 0 - 0 Everton
Liverpool 2 - 1 Blackburn Rovers
Man. City 2 - 3 Q.P.R.
Newcastle Utd. 3 - 2 Crystal Palace
Norwich City 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Sheffield Wed. 4 - 1 Ipswich Town
Southampton 2 - 2 Leicester City
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.
West Ham Utd. 1 - 1 Man. Utd.
Team Name Pld W D L F A Pts GD
1 Blackburn Rovers 42 27 8 7 80 39 89 41
---------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Man. Utd. 42 26 10 6 77 28 88 49
3 Nott'm Forest 42 22 11 9 72 43 77 29 UEFA
4 Liverpool 42 21 11 10 65 37 74 28 UEFA
5 Leeds Utd. 42 20 13 9 59 38 73 21 UEFA
6 Newcastle Utd. 42 20 12 10 67 47 72 20 UEFA???
7 Tottenham Hotspur 42 16 14 12 66 58 62 8
8 Q.P.R. 42 17 9 16 61 59 60 2
9 Wimbledon 42 15 11 16 48 65 56 -17
10 Southampton 42 12 18 12 61 63 54 -2
11 Chelsea 42 13 15 14 50 55 54 -5
12 Arsenal 42 13 12 17 52 49 51 3
13 Sheffield Wed. 42 13 12 17 49 57 51 -8
14 West Ham Utd. 42 13 11 18 44 48 50 -4
15 Everton 42 11 17 14 44 51 50 -7
16 Coventry City 42 12 14 16 44 62 50 -18
17 Man. City 42 12 13 17 53 64 49 -11
18 Aston Villa 42 11 15 16 51 56 48 -5
---------------------------------------------------------------------
19 Crystal Palace 42 11 12 19 34 49 45 -15 R
20 Norwich City 42 10 13 19 37 54 43 -17 R
21 Leicester City 42 6 11 25 45 80 29 -35 R
22 Ipswich Town 42 7 6 29 36 93 27 -57 R
Next week is the F.A. Cup Final At Wembley:
Man Utd V Everton
|
13.653 | | VNA03::HERIBERT | | Mon May 15 1995 19:53 | 3 |
| Is there any reason for this early end of the English championshipm ?
Heribert
|
13.654 | Because all the games have been played :-) | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Mon May 15 1995 20:47 | 12 |
| Heribert,
The English league has always finished at the beginnning of May.
In fact up to a few (5?) years ago, it finished on the 1st Saturday in May with
the Cup final on the 2nd.
I remember one year league games being played after the Cup Final, which is what
I believe prompted the extension of the season, as the Cup final is supposed to
bring the club season to a close.
Al
|
13.655 | | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Mon May 15 1995 21:07 | 8 |
|
In fact the Cup Final used to be the 1st Saturday in May...
I suppose with the Euro'96 coming up the new season will start earlier.
5th August perhaps ???
Dezzz.
|
13.656 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Mon May 15 1995 21:30 | 6 |
| >I suppose with the Euro'96 coming up the new season will start
>earlier.
There are 4 fewer league games next season so I hope there's no need to
start any earlier. I think the fans, as well as the players, need a
few months off !
|
13.657 | | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Tue May 16 1995 14:52 | 12 |
|
So we still will have 'Der Englisher Woche'.... (2 games a week)
Interesting last night...expecting to find no football on Sky Sports
last night I watched a little of the Standard 5-a-side tournament.
A rather diminished turnout of quality...
Wouldn't it be an idea to start tournaments like these in January and start
the season 3 weeks earlier thus freeing up January for FA CUP 3rd and
4th Round and indoor tournaments.
Dezzz.
|
13.658 | Play-offs Update | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Tue May 16 1995 18:29 | 37 |
| For those who have been on Mars for the last couple of days, and those in far
off foreign lands....
It may be over in the premiership, but there are 12 teams still battling it out
in the lower divisions for promotion through the play-offs.
The first legs of these games were played on Sunday with the following results:
Division 1
Tranmere 1 - 3 READING
Wolves 2 - 1 Bolton
Division 2
Bristol Rovers 0 - 0 Crewe
Huddersfield 1 - 1 Brentford
Division 3
Mansfield 1 - 1 Chesterfield
Preston NE 0 - 1 Bury
The return legs are on Wednesday evening ( 17 May)
The winners in each division will face each other at Wembley over the bank
Holiday Weekend
Division 3 Sat May 27
Division 2 Sun May 28
Division 1 Mon May 29 (Live on ITV)
Come on you Royals
Al
|
13.659 | Who are the 12 fired managers? | LEMAN::SIMPSON | Stephen Simpson@GEO, DTN:821 5105 | Wed May 17 1995 23:40 | 19 |
| I read on the Swiss news wire that Horton has been 'thanked' for his services at
Manchester City, and that he is the TWELTH Premiership manager to be fired.
This job certainly has a high turnover rate.
It is easier to list the clubs that have not changed manager:
Which clubs have replaced their manager this season? I know about the following:
Everton
Arsenal
Manchester City
Crystal Palace
Leicester City
Spurs
QPR (not exactly 'fired')
Aston Villa
Coventry City
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13.660 | Here's my attempt. | MASALA::JADAMS | Certified Wino | Thu May 18 1995 00:45 | 28 |
|
Re -.1
Which clubs have replaced their manager this season? I know about the following:
I'll have a go.
OUT IN
Everton Mike Walker Joe Royle
Arsenal George Graham Not Stuart Houston, but who?
Manchester City Brian Horton Rioch,Bassett,Mcarthy,Kidd...
Crystal Palace Alan Smith Ron Noades, the nutter
Leicester City Brian Little Mark McGhee
Spurs Ossie Ardiles Gerry Francis
QPR (not exactly 'fired') Gerry Francis Ray Wilkins
Aston Villa Big Fat Ron Brian Little
Coventry City Phil Neal BFR/Gordon Strachan
Ipswich John Lyall? George Burley
Norwich John Deehan Gary Megson, for now
West Ham Billy Bonds Harry Redknapp
The only question I've got is, looking at the calibre of some of
the managers in the OUT list (Not all them though, obviously-after all
Phil Neal's in there), how is Trevor Francis managing to hold down his
job? I realise that this has probably been a popular question around
Hillsbro' for some time.
|
13.661 | Play-Off 2nd Legs | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | OSAK | Thu May 18 1995 14:37 | 41 |
| Division 1
READING 0 - 0 Tranmere
Aggr 3 - 1
Bolton 2 - 0 Wolves AET
Aggr 3 - 2
Division 2
Crewe 1 - 1 Bristol Rovers AET
Aggr 1 - 1
Bristol go through on away goals
Brentford 1 - 1 Huddersfield AET
Aggr 2 - 2
Huddersfield go through 4-3 on penalties
Division 3
Chesterfield 5 - 2 Mansfield AET
Aggr 6 - 3
Bury 1 - 0 Preston NE
Aggr 2 - 0
The Play-Off finals at Wembley will therefore be:
Division 3
Sat May 27 Bury v Chesterfield
Division 2
Sun May 28 Hudderfield v Bristol Rovers
Division 1
Mon May 29 READING v Bolton Wanderers (Live on ITV)
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13.662 | The first bit it true anyway! ;-) | VYGER::REIDI | al ra yekcohc | Tue Jul 18 1995 14:47 | 13 |
13.663 | Oops, nearly forgot! | VYGER::REIDI | al ra yekcohc | Tue Jul 18 1995 15:02 | 7 |
|
The Arsenal crisp which is flat, plain, and boring. The Man Utd range,
are mostly made up of bit from all around the world that no-one likes.
Choppers
*:@)
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13.664 | Cantona's nuts! | YUPPY::PANES | Not even with yours | Tue Jul 18 1995 15:17 | 0 |
13.665 | And then there's... | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Tue Jul 18 1995 15:27 | 4 |
| The Crystal Palace flavour...accompanied by a letter giving 101 excuses
for why they arrived in damaged condition ;-)
Dom
|
13.666 | And there's more.... | VYGER::REIDI | al ra yekcohc | Tue Jul 18 1995 15:33 | 11 |
|
Rangers are also adding to their Bluenose Pakora, and Championees pies,
by bringing out a special kind of crisps.
You can eat 7 or 8 packs in-a-row, but never be able to get 9-in-a-row!
Choppers
*:@)
|
13.667 | Some mileage in this I would say ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | I'm not long for this world | Tue Jul 18 1995 15:33 | 7 |
|
The Man Utd crisps are reissued in a different colour bag every
fortnight or so ...
When you open the Arsenal crisps they all come out and appeal for
offside ...
|
13.668 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | There's always next year!!! | Tue Jul 18 1995 15:48 | 5 |
| The Newcastle crisps are delicious to start with, but aren't so good at the
bottom.
Sheffield Wed. Crisps have a seal that can only be broken after Christmas.
|
13.669 | More crisps ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | I'm not long for this world | Wed Jul 19 1995 13:34 | 14 |
|
Liverpool crisps are soft ...
Chelsea crisps are hard ...
Everton crisps are expensive and not worth the money ...
Manchester City crisps have a free manager in every packet ...
Wimbledon crisps should not be eaten. Instead just boot them as far
down the pitch as you possibly can ...
(And watch out for that Vinnie Jones when you are doing this. He has
been known to grab peoples nuts ...)
|
13.670 | | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | South of Hell | Wed Jul 19 1995 13:56 | 10 |
| On the subject of crap merchandising, on the weekly food trip to
Safeways I espied merchandising gone mental. The Premiership have
reached a deal with Wilkinson Sword whereby you can buy a Wilkinson
Sword Protector Razor with your favourite Premiership teams club crest
on the handle.
Next time you cut yourself when shaving, you really can say that your
club is bleeding you dry.
Stuart
|
13.671 | | CHEFS::GEORGEM | lived eht pihsroW | Wed Jul 19 1995 14:53 | 5 |
| groan.
Stuart "Les Dennis' scriptwriter" Stratford unleashes another corker...
8)
|
13.672 | Stroppy note | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | I'm not long for this world | Wed Jul 19 1995 16:03 | 24 |
|
> Stuart "Les Dennis' scriptwriter" Stratford unleashes another corker
With all due respect Matt at least he TRIES. If you think you can
do so much better you are very welcome to have a go.
And that goes for a lot of people in here. The likes of me and the
Stuarts etcetera expend a lot of brain cells keeping you lot amused. I
want to see a bit more participation in this file, close season or not.
It's already a lot funnier than the HUMOR notesfile which is 90%
the biggest load of self-centred codswallop I have ever had the
misfortune to read. (However the Dave Barry notesfile has me rolling
round the office. I think it must be because of their very strict
rules.) With a bit of work (and thought too please) this could be the
best notesfile in the world, probably.
And another thing. I know for a fact there are too many read-onlies
out there (yes I mean you Robert and Billy to name but two). It's a
pretty feeble excuse that there is no note for your team. Create one !
Above all let's have a bit more input pur-lease !
Malc.
|
13.673 | OK, I'll start | VIRGIN::ASH | Grahame Ash @RLE | Wed Jul 19 1995 16:12 | 7 |
| Morning, Malc,
Whassamarra - kicked out of bed last night?
Cheers,
grahame
|
13.674 | Couldn't resist...... | CHEFS::CROSSA | | Wed Jul 19 1995 16:21 | 9 |
| Graeme,
At least Malc got kicked out !!! With a node name like that I would not
be to questioning of his sleeping habits.....
Cheap_ shot_Stretch.
|
13.675 | How yer diddlin? | YUPPY::OHAGANB | | Wed Jul 19 1995 16:58 | 10 |
| Malc,
I do believe Matt was being a bit dry, sarcastic etc etc and he
does his fair bit of light entertaining in here (please send the
cheque to me at Digital at Kleinwort Benson. London EC3M please
Mr George).
Yours,
Bobby Chariot.
|
13.676 | Response to Mal "Stuart Lover" Theodoreson... | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Wed Jul 19 1995 17:11 | 22 |
|
>And that goes for a lot of people in here. The likes of me and the
>Stuarts etcetera expend a lot of brain cells keeping you lot amused. I
>want to see a bit more participation in this file, close season or not.
Well, I paid you lip service yesterday, Malc...and I wasn't too
impressed with the reply I got (32.5984). In fact, if you hadn't
remembered to put a smiley on the end, your noting days would probably
be numbered (my friends call me Dom Corleone).
Anyway, I hope you're not referring to me because I have always played
my part(s?), whether it be in the hi-jacking of the QPR note (the
cricket debate of last year), the Bristol City "anything goes" note,
and the crisps packaging topic note that dominated proceedings
yesterday.
>And another thing. I know for a fact there are too many read-onlies
>out there (yes I mean you Robert and Billy to name but two).
Not to mention Charlie, Eddie and Bernie...
Dom
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13.677 | Ok ok ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | I'm not long for this world | Wed Jul 19 1995 17:13 | 16 |
|
Aye fair enough. I didn't mean to go over the top, I was just a bit
bored and suffering withdrawal symptoms from the close season. This is
the only notesfile I keep real tabs on and I was just trying to drum up
a bit more activity.
But on the other hand I do stand by the general gist of my note.
It seems to me that only a hard core nucleus of people write stuff in
here whereas it would be far better for all of us if we could get news
and views from a much wider spread of people. If nothing else it gives
the rest of us more people to slag.
So get typing folks. If you have no news feel free to make it up ...
Your_friendly_neighbourhood_Malc.
|
13.678 | OK, I'll set the ball rolling... | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Wed Jul 19 1995 17:19 | 3 |
| Inter had their pre-season get together yesterday.
Dom Turner, News at 10, Milan
|
13.679 | Okay, a genuine news story; | CHEFS::GEORGEM | lived eht pihsroW | Wed Jul 19 1995 17:46 | 5 |
| Rangers have demanded the head of their lawyer on a plate, as they checked the
transfer papers and found out that Bamber Gasgoine has actually retired from
football.
Don Howe.
|
13.680 | oooohhh....it's good but not roight..... | CHEFS::GEORGEM | lived eht pihsroW | Wed Jul 19 1995 18:25 | 5 |
| Oh, and re .672, I think Stuart knows that I'm taking the piss, and not
attempting to insult him (subtle difference). Spot the smiley in the bottom
left corner of the note, too.
Matt$Roy_Walker's_script_writer.
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13.681 | That's not a smiley, it's a frog (I think) | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | I'm not long for this world | Wed Jul 19 1995 18:33 | 1 |
|
|
13.682 | | CHEFS::GEORGEM | lived eht pihsroW | Wed Jul 19 1995 18:38 | 1 |
| It's a fair representation of what my smile looks like when my teeth are out...
|
13.683 | Does that also cause your nose to disappear ? | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | I'm not long for this world | Wed Jul 19 1995 18:41 | 1 |
|
|
13.684 | | CHEFS::GEORGEM | lived eht pihsroW | Wed Jul 19 1995 18:44 | 1 |
| I raise my lower lip over my nose in a gurning-type expression.
|
13.685 | I see. In that case I apologise ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | I'm not long for this world | Wed Jul 19 1995 18:47 | 1 |
|
|
13.686 | it's in the REcord so it must be true..8) | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Lovely day for a Guinness | Mon Jul 24 1995 19:06 | 7 |
| A report in today's Daily Record says that Oxford scientists have
PROVED that Geoff Hurst's shot didn't cross the line in the '66 World
Cup final, so there!!..we were right all along....if the English FA
have any decency at all they'll surely hand all the winners medals to
the German FA
Ray.... 8^h)
|
13.687 | Old hat matey | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | Disconnect brain from mouth | Mon Jul 24 1995 19:08 | 5 |
| Ray
That report was in the Sunday Times yesterday. Who cares?
Stuart
|
13.688 | A SHIRT OF ENGLISH LEAGUE FOR SALE ... | VAXRIO::MCASTRO | | Tue Aug 08 1995 16:30 | 11 |
|
Hi all,
I want adcure a shirt of ENGLISH LEAGUE, if somebody to know something,
please contact me.
Vaxmail - VAXRIO::MCASTRO
Thank
Marcelo.
|
13.689 | | RTOEU::MBOHNER | FCBsupporter | Thu Sep 07 1995 15:39 | 17 |
| Hi all,
I want to come to London with my friends after Christmas this year.
We want to see many grounds and games of all leagues, for that reason
we need the fixture list of all four leagues with the exactly kick off
times. I already wrote to the football association for about 3 weeks,
but till today I get no answer. We need them soon because we want to
reserve our rooms in the hotel.
Can anyone in this conference help me to get the lists or can give me
further information?
Please contact me or answer with a reply.
RTOEU::MBOHNER
markusFCB_groundhopping_rules
|
13.690 | | MOEUR8::SMITH | | Wed Sep 27 1995 20:36 | 2 |
|
Have there been any games in the English league recently?
|
13.691 | HELLO.....! | MOEUR8::SMITH | | Mon Oct 02 1995 20:16 | 2 |
|
Ditto my previous reply...
|
13.692 | | VNACO1::HERIBERT | | Tue Oct 03 1995 11:40 | 22 |
| 1. NEWCASTELE 8 7 0 1 ? 21
2. ASTON VILLA 8 5 2 1 12:5 17
3. MANCHESTER U. 8 5 2 1 16:10 17
4. LIVERPOOL 8 5 1 2 15:7 16
5. LEEDS 8 5 1 2 14:9 16
6. ARSENAL 8 4 3 1 10:5 15
7. MIDDLESBROUGH 8 4 3 1 9:4 15
8. NOTTINGHAM 8 3 5 0 14:9 14
9. TOTTENHAM 8 4 2 2 14:11 14
10. CHELSEA 8 3 3 2 9:7 12
11. WIMBLEDON 8 3 1 4 13:16 10
12. Q.P.RANGERS 8 3 0 5 7:12 9
13. SHEFFIELD W. 8 2 2 4 8:11 8
14. EVERTON 8 2 1 5 10:13 7
. BLACKBURN 8 2 1 5 10:13 7
16. WEST HAM 8 1 3 4 7:11 6
17. SOUTHAMPTON 8 1 3 4 7:14 6
18. COVENTRY 8 1 3 4 7:17 6
19. BOLTON 8 1 1 6 8:18 4
20. MANCHESTER C. 8 0 1 7 3:14 1
In my table in Austria I haven no score of Newcastle (curious).
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13.693 | Thank you very much... | MOEUR8::SMITH | | Tue Oct 03 1995 11:55 | 6 |
|
How strange, it takes an Austrian to update this note! And what a
pleasant surprise, West Ham are no longer second from bottom!!!
Cheers,
Ian
|
13.694 | | ZUR01::ASH | Grahame Ash @RLE | Tue Oct 03 1995 15:19 | 6 |
| Heribert,
My (Swiss) paper doesn't have Newcastle's goals either. This can only be
because as we're 4 points ahead of the rest, who cares what the goaldiff is?!
grahame
|
13.695 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | You are only coming through in waves | Tue Oct 03 1995 15:27 | 5 |
| Some of us have work to do!!!
I'll enter scores etc. in a mo.
Al
|
13.696 | Surely not? ;-) | MOEUR8::SMITH | | Wed Oct 04 1995 13:44 | 5 |
|
Wow, someone in this conference - any conference for that matter! -
with work to do...
Can this be?
|
13.697 | I thought he 'worked' for MIG? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Atlanta's Most (In)famous Welshman | Wed Oct 04 1995 20:00 | 1 |
| find out what group that man is in and have a word with his manager!
|
13.698 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | You are only coming through in waves | Thu Oct 05 1995 14:33 | 11 |
| >I thought he 'worked' for MIG?
You are correct Andrew, and I'm glad to see you put the inverted commas around
worked. You don't usually see WORK & MIG in the same sentence ;-)
After a couple of weeks of bedlam, things have got back to normal thankfully,
and I can use my definition of work to the full again:
Work : Reading through Notes conferences all day ;-)
Al
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13.699 | on the Web | PLAYER::LESOIL | | Mon Oct 16 1995 15:32 | 5 |
|
English football results on the Web (NOS Dutch teletext) :
Results : http://www.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/tt/nos/page/681-1
Table : http://www.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/tt/nos/page/681-2
|
13.700 | Did West Ham play/win/score - I wonder? | MOEUR8::SMITH | | Tue Oct 17 1995 13:46 | 5 |
|
Another weekend without matches I see! I wonder, is this the English
'winter' break they've been talking about for so long?
Ian
|
13.701 | | CHEFS::EDWARDSD | | Tue Oct 17 1995 13:58 | 7 |
| >-< Did West Ham play/win/score - I wonder? >-
Ian,
West Ham won 1-0 at Wimbledon last night. Cottee scored, Dicks was
awarded motm by Trevor Francis.
|
13.702 | | ADDULT::ROBERTSON | You are only coming through in waves | Thu Oct 19 1995 16:39 | 8 |
| The Premiership results are being posted in 496 this season!!
Al
FYI just found a useful Net page:
"http://soccernet.com/soccfile/results.html"
|
13.703 | Diego wows Oxbridge.... | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Lovely Day for a Guinness | Tue Nov 07 1995 18:24 | 65 |
| Diego Maradona enchants Oxford - 1995/11/07
DIEGO MARADONA last night gave a command performance in the
most unusual arena of his entire career. The 35-year-old Argentinian
was the guest speaker at a special meeting staged by the famous
Oxford Union Debating Society.
A massive crowd filled the auditorium which has become the
traditional gateway to the corridors of power, with 300 on the floor and
as many again in the gallery.
Such was the demand to see the man who returned to soccer in
September after a 15-month ban imposed after a positive drug test
during the 1994 World Cup, that the event did not get under way until
50 minutes after the scheduled kick-off time.
Maradona, in a smart suit and sporting one blond streak in his hair,
gave a passionate lecture, talking about his rise from a shanty town on
the outskirts of Buenos Aires to the centre of the world soccer stage.
And he made it clear that his experiences at the hands of the
businessmen now running the game necessitated his formation earlier
this year of an international players' union.
``With the evolution of the communications media, players began to
be recognised all over the world,'' recalled Maradona.
``At the start there was a difference between sport and business but it
soon became the business of sport.
``When I grew up I was obsessed with the words `football player,
football player'. That is all I wanted to be.
``Now at the age of 35 I want all players to be able to say: `Let us get
on with what we love - playing football'.''
After his 50-minute lecture, Maradona, flanked by his two young
daughters, answered a series of questions from the student audience
including those about that famous game in the Azteca Stadium in
1986.
The question about the first goal, when his left hand propelled the ball
beyond Peter Shilton, was shrugged aside.
``At the time it cured everything,'' he said. ``It was a huge game in the
World Cup and suddenly it went against England. But I would have
done it against any other country.
To finish off Maradona showed his juggling skills are still unsurpassed
as he controlled a golf ball on his instep and then balanced a football
on his head.
Copyright, The Irish Times
|
13.704 | Sarcasm, this late in the day !!! | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Tue Nov 07 1995 18:34 | 10 |
|
>> To finish off Maradona showed his juggling skills are still
unsurpassed as he controlled a golf ball on his instep and then
balanced a football on his head.
That'll come in handy then !!!
ian.
|
13.705 | | CHEFS::CROSSA | Nuns! Reverse! Reverse! | Fri Aug 09 1996 16:33 | 12 |
| Off IRN....
2nd division Plymouth have announced the signing of Southampton's
controversial goalkeeper Bruce Grobellaar, who's now 38.
Grobbelaar has signed a 12 months contract and makes his debut in
a friendly tommorrow against Manchester City.
Grobellaar is still waiting to go on trial with John Fashanu and
Hans Segers over the match fixing scandal that erupted 2 years
ago.
|
13.706 | What have nuclear scientists got to do with this!?!??! | CHEFS::CROSSA | As Bob is my witless! | Mon Jan 20 1997 16:13 | 18 |
13.707 | can't find the balckburn note | CHEFS::16.43.128.218::Mad | Open Fire, Number One !!! | Mon Jan 20 1997 16:53 | 13 |
13.708 | Reportds that this provoked the 17 man brawl are unconfirmed!!! | CHEFS::CROSSA | As Bob is my witless! | Wed Jan 22 1997 17:32 | 21 |
13.709 | It's got my vote | CHEFS::16.43.128.47::Mad | Open Fire, Number One !!! | Wed Jan 22 1997 17:44 | 12 |
13.710 | Who are you casting aspetions on? | CHEFS::CROSSA | As Bob is my witless! | Wed Jan 22 1997 18:36 | 12 |
13.711 | WC2006???? | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Shower me with sugar lumps | Tue Feb 04 1997 11:36 | 4 |
| Any thoughts on the current fight between UEFA and the English FA over
the 2006 World Cup?...
Ray....
|
13.712 | Missed the Sun this morning | ZUR01::ASHG | Grahame Ash @RLE | Tue Feb 04 1997 14:18 | 3 |
| What's the story? Is it something about UEFA having "promised" it to Germany?
grahame
|
13.713 | Donner Und Blitzen! | VARESE::TRNUX1::IDC_BSTR | | Tue Feb 04 1997 14:28 | 10 |
| >What's the story? Is it something about UEFA having "promised" it to Germany?
That's about the size of it. Those dastardly Brits (with John Major at
the helm) have accused UEFA in no uncertain terms of "pushing"
Germany's candidacy. Quite whether the insinuation was that UEFA should
have pushed England/Scotland's candidacy was unclear (to me, at least).
Seriously, I don't see why the issue isn't left entirely up to FIFA.
Dom
|
13.714 | | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Thu Feb 06 1997 19:09 | 28 |
|
A few interesting aspects here....
1. UEFA feel that Germany's bid would be most likely to achieve a
result as far as bringing the World Cup to Europe.
2. It is obvious at this stage that with the giant Kirch group behind
the helm as far as TV rights are concerned, UEFA will get enough
backhanders to make it worth their while.
3. Germany is going through a serious image crisis on the international
economic front (similar to the UK in the seventies) so I'm sure
companies like Siemens, Daimler, Allianz (Muenchener Verein) have also
been involved in some big money assurances. Granted it is some 9/10
years off but with the way sport is increasingly becoming as important
in people's lives as anything else...now's the time to make the move.
Instead of Major and Blair crying about it and David Mellor saying its
a disgrace..how about large British multi_n companies coming out to the
FA and UEFA showing their financial support etc etc...
I admit is is a bit underhand of UEFA to do what they did but it is a
bit hypocritical of a lot of English people who complain about it
whilst I heard from the very same lips that the English Rugby Union's
decision to go along with the original SKY TV plan was justified as
England was where the money and major interest in the Five nations
was...
Dezzz.
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13.715 | UEFA backhanders to no avail | MILE::JENKINS | | Thu Feb 06 1997 19:57 | 9 |
|
Hi Dezzz....
But what's it got to do with UEFA anyway? FIFA select who will be
the hosts.... Bids in by 1998.
Richard.
|
13.716 | It gets worse, not better... | VARESE::TRNUX1::IDC_BSTR | | Thu Feb 06 1997 20:06 | 14 |
| >But what's it got to do with UEFA anyway? FIFA select who will be
>the hosts.... Bids in by 1998.
Pretty much what I think. The last 30 odd years have seen a handful of
countries enforce a near monopoly over the Olympic Games/World
Cup/European Championships. Germany last staged a World Cup little over
20 years ago (for those of you north of the border, England's last World
Cup was 31 years ago ;-)). If UEFA really are going to have a say in
the matter, couldn't they put their considerable meat behind (say) a
Dutch/Belgian joint bid?
After all, we have a Hungarian Gran Prix... ;-)
Dom
|
13.717 | Eurocentrism | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | D'you want some? | Fri Feb 07 1997 11:20 | 10 |
|
Why should the World Cup be staged in Europe in 2006? France are
hosting the next Finals in 1998 and, correct me if I'm wrong, but
France is in Europe. What about Africa or, indeed, South America?
Football supporters like to proclaim their sport as the world's most
popular game - if so, should the World Cup not be hosted in the four
corners of the Earth?
j.
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13.718 | | RDGENG::MORRELL | | Fri Feb 07 1997 11:34 | 7 |
| >What about Africa or, indeed, South America?
Can they really afford to hold the competition?
Cheers,
Rick,
|
13.719 | Brazilian Bid ? | CHEFS::16.37.8.20::Mad | This is Mutiny !!, Mr Christian. | Fri Feb 07 1997 12:27 | 12 |
| Re Africa etc.
Heard on the Radio yesterday that Brazil/Argentina are going to bid for it as
well..
That would be a bummer, Brazil are good enough, lets not give them home
advantage as well............8-)
Mad
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13.720 | | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Fri Feb 07 1997 18:06 | 7 |
| What has it to do with UEFA ??
Well they have a vested interest in the WC coming to Europe so they are
voicing their opinion...
Dezzz.
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13.721 | UEFA for short | MILE::JENKINS | | Fri Feb 07 1997 19:12 | 4 |
|
Uninformed Egotistical F***ing Administrators
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13.722 | from today's Irish Times.... | IRNBRU::HOWARD | Shower me with sugar lumps | Wed Mar 26 1997 16:35 | 88 |
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| FOOTBALL Striker Les Ferdinand's the latest withdrawal from England's summer
matches.
The Newcastle star goes into hospital on Thursday for a groin operation which
rules him out of the next five games, including the World Cup qualifier in
Poland on May 31st.
Manager Glenn Hoddle's already consdering a replacement especially with fears
over the fitness of Liverpool striker Robbie Fowler following his nose
operation.
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Paul Gascoigne's declared himself fit and ready for England after his latest
testimonial appearance.
A sell-out 5,770 crowd watched fit-again Gazza play in a benefit for former
Newcastle team-mate Wes Saunders at Torquay, his last game before teaming up
with the England squad today.
Gascoigne's team which included Sunderland's Chris Waddle in goal won 8-6.
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