Conference taveng::bagels

Hi,

Looks like I'm the first to reply to this one so here goes,

My name is Malcolm Levy and I can be contacted on the IOSG cluster,
That is:

TRON::levy
BLOTT::levy
THRINT::levy

I reside in Reading England.
Not sure what else you wanted to know,

Shalom

Malcolm

ELWOOD::SIMON

Leo Simon
SHR-4/D26
237-3521

It's funny:  When I lived in Russia my internal passport said that I was
Jewish.  They didn't consider me Russian.  It didn't mean whether or not 
I was religious.  When I left Russia four years ago the authorities 
stipped me of my Russian citizenship.  But now in the US I am Russian 
whether I want ot or not!

NONODE::CHERSON

David Cherson
WOO/D89
236-2229

Roberta (Bobbi) Fox

MRO3-2/H7  (Marborough, Mass - I live in Brookline, however)

NIMBUS::FOX
OZONE::FOX

    	     Frederick Richard Liss
    	     aka
    	     Fivel Revin
    	     aka
    	     GRAMPS::LISS SHR1-4/D21 237-3649
    	     aka
    	     :-) Super Jew (-:
    	     "Faster than a rolling bagel. Hotter than a hot kinish. 
             Able to leap a plate of chopped liver in a single bound."
    
    	                       Fred
    
    	     PS -  Does that quote give away my age?
    

Andrew Davis

IND-3/C10
ICHAYA::DAVIS		(It's a relatively new node so you may not have the
			 node address; It's 11.61)
CYGNUS::DAVIS

Fred R. Goldstein

today:
	ALPHA::GOLDSTEIN
	TWO/B18 dtn247-3204

soon:	LKG1-1/A07 dtn 226-7388
	don't ask me what my node will be...

I live in Brighton.

       Don (Mr.) Topaz 
       
       STAR::TOPAZ
       ZK01-1/F22

Chaim Budnick (known by some of my friends as Cb)

Dec Israel (I joined 9 months ago)
I'm a memeber of a group that does "Giur K'halacha" (Hebrewizing) anything
and everything.

I was born in Hbg., Pa.
I went to high school on Brookline, Mass. (Maimonides 65')
I attended Yeshiva University (graduated fall 67')
I've been in Israel since fall 1967.

L'hitraot

Cb.

Greg Grajew
Network Management

R2D2::GREG

yordim living in Geneva Switzerland

Eric Bloom

KAHLUA::BLOOM
HLO2-2/C07

Living in West Boylston, a suburb of Worcester.

David Gitner
OURVAX::GITNER

Office in HYO (Southboro, MA.)

Dan Goldrosen

NIO/V20
	Living in Newton, New "NO TAX" Hampshire

Alan (Aharon) Goldman

TAV02::GOLDMAN
ISO

Living in Jerusalem & working in Herzlia.

David Samuels
DLO03::SAMUELS

Located in Dallas, Texas

Gerard Zarka

EUROPE::ZARKA

Geneva
International Engineering

Linda Sue Trapasso

MRO1-2/L12
DTN 297-6714, 261-2606
GNUVAX::LTRAPASSO
VICKI::TRAPASSO

I am a software technical writer for Marlboro Software Publications, 
currently working on a project in Salem, NH (facility NIO).

I just discovered this notes file, and am enjoying going through it.
There is always something new to learn...

I was born in Winthrop, MA, where I went to school with mostly Jewish
children.  Later my family moved to Peabody, MA where I became best 
friends with a Jewish girl, who was later to influence me about 
Judaism and who also introduced me to my husband.  Due to her 
influence, I became very interested in Judaism, and, during my 
engagement, became a Jew by choice.  (I absolutely refused to ask my 
husband to convert to Catholicism.)  Anyway, I am very happy with my 
choice and, when we visited Israel, I knew I had found my true home.

NOAH HOROWITZ
CIPHER::HOROWITZ
MKO1-2/L6
264-7383

Like others I just noticed this notes. I also hailed from Peabody.

I currently one of the few but proud living in Watertown. There must have
been a gentlemens agreement in the past.

Ed Steinberger

TORCH::Steinberger

or

VAX4::ARSON::Steinberger


MKO1-2/D07

AARON KAPLAN
WR1FOR::KAPLANAA
SANTA CLARA, CALIFORNIA
DTN521-4232

WELL, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE MEETING YOU ALL, NOW LET ME TELL YOU ALITTLE
ABOUT MYSELF:

I'VE BEEN WITH DIGITAL TWO YEARS NOW, AND AM CURRENTLY WORKING AS A SALES
REP IN SILICON VALLEY.  ITS A GOOD THING TO KNOW THIS FILE EXISTS, BECAUSE
CONTACT WITH JEWS OUT HERE IS NOT AS EASY AS IN THE EAST. (BY THE WAY, IF
ANY OF YOU KNOW OF ANY GOOD LOOKING, INTELLIGENT, SINGLE JEWISH WOMEN IN
THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA, PLEASE PASS THEIR NAME ON TO ME.)

I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN THIS FILE!!

L'HITRAOT

AARON

P.S.  MY MOTHER PAYS FOR GOOD REFERALS

Warren Schorr
Node Currently OBIWAN::SCHORR

Will Be moving to DARTH::SCHORR

New Jersey District Software Services

Live In Toms River New Jersey  - home of the Jewish farmer

Like it says above, I'm Amused::Gruber

I work at Virginia Road in Concord, Massachusetts, 
and live in Sudbury, Massachusetts.

What's the distribution list for?

       Mike

Stacy Wolff (Mr.)
current node : OBIWAN
future location : DARTH

I live and work in New Jersey.  Please keep the wisecracks to a minimum.

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                    CADET""::HSC003$DUA2:[NOTES]BAGELS.NOT;3
 ZEPPO::ROSENTHAL            See 1.1 for Directory           12-NOV-1985 13:10
 Note 47.0                     Donna L. Rosenthal                   1 response
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Donna L. Rosenthal (aka, ROSENBAGEL... no relation to this file... see
explanation below...)

I am a Senior Software Writer for Field Service Engineering in Stow, MA
and can be reached on the FSEcluster systems ZEPPO:, CHAPLN:, CARLIN:
or at DTN 276-8321.

Until 2 weeks ago, I was renting in Hudson, MA.  I'm proud to say my (goy) 
"significant other" (Les Gibeau) and I have bought our first home in 
Thompson, CT, 20 minutes south of Worcester, MA, and "ONLY" 45 miles from 
work.

Les feels right at home... the whole town is French.  I've yet to explore
the Jewish population... the local church registry does not list any
temples within 30 miles... 

This notesfile was brought to my attention by a close friend and former co-
worker (Ed Taranto).  When I joined U.S. Area Software Services 6 years ago 
(today is my 6th anniversary with DEC), I was the only Jew in a group of 15 
people, and was dubbed "ROSENBAGEL" or "bagel" for short.  There are people 
in my old group who have NEVER ONCE, in 6 years, called me Donna.  I've since
changed groups/facilities and only hear the name when I hear from/visit my 
old gang.

I was born into a family of reform Jews.  My Dad's family was Ashkenazi and
Mom's Hassidic.  Mom and Dad felt orthodox/conservative too rigid and raised
me and my younger brother reform.  Mom grew up in a house with her parents
and grandparents... shabbas drove my mother crazy as a child.  

My brother, a grad student at Penn. State, is studying to be an astro-
physicist, believes in the "Big Bang" theory and all the concepts related
to it that nobody else in the family even PRETENDS to comprehend.  The
idea or mere mention of G-d makes him laugh.  I guess that makes him an
affirmed atheist.

I, on the other hand, believe in G-d, but (shamefully) know very little
about our religion.  When someone asks me about a certain holiday or certain
traditions (such as covering mirrors during shivva), my answer is usually 
something like, "I'll have to get back to you on that one...".  I love Yiddish,
however, and never cease to amaze my grandmother when I spout off something 
she didn't think I knew in Yiddish.  Leo Rosten's "Joys of Yiddish" is perched 
on my reference shelf in my office along with my tech. writing manuals...

When my Dad died in 1983, I was moved by Rabbi Friedman's words at his
funeral, and privately while speaking with me and my Mom.  Soon after the
funeral, I bought myself a hardcopy of the Holy Scriptures and tried my
hardest to understand.  I still read the booklet of memorial prayers that
the Levine Chapel (Brookline) gave me.

People will tell you I'm "just Jewish by birth", but I "feel" more Jewish
inside than I can exhibit on the outside.  By exhibiting my "Jewishness"
I don't mean "sounding" Jewish... I mean things like being able to answer
the questions people ask me intelligently.  After my Dad's funeral, when
I realized just how naive I am about my religious heritage, I asked the
rabbi for book recommendations... he suggested some book that explains the
origin of the Jewish people and the significance of our holidays.  I wrote
down the name but somehow lost the piece of paper.  If anyone has any good
books to recommend, (nothing TOO heavy - I write "heavy" stuff all day),
PLEASE either respond to this note or reply by VAXMAIL to the nodes I've
listed at the beginning of this reply.

Thanks for listening to me.  I hope to gain a wealth of knowledge from
each of you.  I've been naive long enough.
     

Len Segal

MILRAT::SEGAL
The "MILL" (where else!)
DTN 223-7687

I have been with DEC for 5-1/2 years now. When I was hired by DEC, I "did
time" as a Production Supervisor in the old Board Shop (in the Mill). After
15 months, I was pardoned and allowed to join the "real" DEC, back in
Engineering. I have been working in Product Safety for 4+ years now, first   
as a Product Safety Engineer in Corporate Product Safety, and subsequently
in what is now known as Low End Systems & Technology (LEST), managing a group
of Product Safety Engineers and the Product Safety Lab with two Technicians.

Prior to DEC, I have been a QC Engineer and served in Nuclear Project
Engineering capacities for Nuclear Submarines, and commercial nuclear power 
plants. I am very happy that I now work in the commercial world and no longer 
have to put up with the military/government bureaucracy (only the commercial
buraeucracy of DEC!).
                                                                   
I was brought up Conservative in the suburbs of Boston (South Shore), and
have found most of the traditional Synagogues to be too "Orthodox" for my
liking. My wife and I belong to a group called Ha-Yom. We hold High Holiday
Services at Wheaton College Chapel in Norton, MA. Women are accorded all
the rights and privileges that are reserved solely for men in almost all
Synagogues and Temples. The services are participatory and quite modernistic.
For the first time, I must admit that I really enjoy the services. 

SWATT::MAGENHEIM or SWATT::BLUE_EYES.

Any news on the Nashua-area Jewish singles situation?




Anita

'Nuf eavesdropping, time to come straight.

Marla (Malka, Malki) Ozarowski
Software Consultant, Maryland SWS
NEWVAX::MARLA or DCVAX::MARLA
DTN 341-2628

I was raised Orthodox and spent 12 years in a Yeshiva-type day school.
After spending senior year in a public high school, I decided that I
was missing out on a lot of interesting opportunities in life and
promptly quit keeping Kosher, Shabbos, and all that stuff. Much to
my mother's disappointment, but she still loves me. My father was
less concerned; as a Holacaust survivor, he lost his faith long ago
and just goes along with my mother to keep the peace in the house.
My brother is an Orthodox Rabbi, practicing in Berkeley, CA. He's
very liberal and religious and non-religious people alike feel
comfortable with him.

Although I'm no longer religious, I'm still very strongly Jewish and
am finding myself tilting back toward traditional values as I get
older. (I'm 29.) Case in point: In my late teens, I strongly (and
loudly!) stated that it doesn't matter who I marry as long as we
love each other, blah-blah-blah. During my mid-20's, I decided that
I would only marry a Jewish person so as not to hurt my parents;
we're very close. Now in my late 20's, I realize that I want to
do that for MYSELF.
                   
As a child of a Holacaust survivor, I've been quite affected in my
outlook toward life, myself, etc. I'd be interested in discussing 
this with other 2nd generation people or anyone else with an interest.
Perhaps good material for a new note...

Looking forward to much good noting in the Bagels file,
Marla

Hi!  I'm Susan Ellis in Reading, UK.

Node address	- FORTY2::ELLIS
Mail stop	- REO2-F/B3
Telephone	- (7) 830 3607

I was born and bred in London, and still live there with my parents.  I'm fairly
religious (shul on Shabbat, etc), but I've still to visit Israel!

Anyone coming to the UK, don't hesitate to give a call!!!

Shalom,

Susan.

Paul Senechal

RDVAX::SENECHAL or BRADOR::SENECHAL
HL02-3/K11	   KAO 2-3
225-5851           621-2730

I don't get much time to eavesdrop.  I'm work in CR&A (Sam Fuller's org)
as Engineering Program manager for WATDEC (joint Digital/University of
Waterloo, Canada), GIA External Research Manager,  and am also Sr. Engineering
Cons/Mgr (Dick Yen's org).  Physically, I live out of a suitcase; my family,
however, live very comfortably in Ottawa, Ontario.....you know, the capital
of the Great White North.

We belong to a small conservative reform congregation.  Not many of us here
in Ottawa, not at all like Montreal or those large Jewish metropoplis' like
Worcester and Nashua.

Ed Luwish

{BELKER,RENKO,FURILO}::LUWISH
MRO3-3/G20
297-7715

Currently living in Marlboro, soon to move to Sudbury.
Attend Temple Emunah (conservative) in Lexington whenever possible.

I find this notes file a great comfort, even though some of the entries are
too "technical" for me to follow.  I have been returning to my religious
roots ever since my Mother died last year, and am also doing genealogical
research (it isn't easy - most of my family was exterminated by Hitler).

I appreciate the sense of community I see building in BAGELS, and feel very
much a member.

Ed

Warren Rothberg
WOODIE::ROTHBERG
WOO/S77
Dtn: 236-2776

Sargon::baer
z

I browse.

Virgo::Barry


Barry Needleman

Alan Karlsberg
CANDY::KARLSBERG
NIO/Q10

Live in Nashua, N.H., work in Salem, N.H.

Jack Gold

Curie::gold

MRO3-2/R15

I work in CAEM as the Strategic Marketing Manager for Engineering Management
and Support Systems. I have been with Digital for 8 years in a variety of
engineering, manufacturing, program management, and now marketing roles.
I live in Northborough, MA, and go to Shul in Worcester. I am married and
have three children, two boys and a girl. My wife is a Jew-By-Choice, and
would never go back. I am the middle of three sons of two Holocaust survivors.
I would be interested in talking to other Jews-By-Choice, and other survivors
childeren. Sounds like two ideas for notes.

Dale Cohen @FHO  or ....
USFHSL:COHEN     or ....
GLORY:COHEN      

Novi, Michigan (Detroit for short), DTN 444-2102.

I've been with DEC for 2 months now, and was previously with a DEC Dealer
(Rainbows, DECmates, PROs, Micro11s) for 2 years.  As a Software Specialist,
what I do changes daily....

Glad to see this notes file here.  Besides the standard reasons, I once received
a terminal phone message from TAV02:DROR, and couldn't respond in time (new
user blues!).  Now that I know that TAV02 is in Israel, I'll try to find out
who DROR is (a name that, even after 6 months on kibbutz, I could never
pronounce correctly).

                           

Jill Corwin
IND-3/C10
Marlboro, MA

DTN 262-8397

DITTO::CORWIN

	David (ULTRA::) Ofsevit, LTN2-2/C08, 226-6743

    	I finally got into this note a few days ago and am still catching
    up.  I am impressed with the world-wide participation and breadth
    of Jewish experience here.
    
    	I'm please to see in 32.20 that I'm not the only Watertown Jew
    in here.  I am married with a son Ari who is fast becoming a
    2-year-old.  My wife is always interested in finding single Jewish
    men to fix up her friends with (mostly late 20s-early 30s), so feel
    free to send me MAIL on the subject.
    
    	I'm coming up on 4 years with Digital, currently in Secure Systems.
    
    			David

    
    Mike Kaufman @CX0
    
    Comet::Kaufman
     
    Located at the base of the Rockies....Colorado Springs
    
    

    Warren Sander
    
    LSMVAX::SANDER
    MR02-2/8D2 (Large Systems Marketing)
    
    Living in Framingham
    
    

    Rich Goldstein
    {LEAGLE, WITNES}::GOLDSTEIN
    
    I am an attorney in the Engineering Law Group located at Powder
    Mill Road in Maynard.  I have been with DIGITAL for almost two years,
    but I am new to this conference and am still catching up with my
    reading.  So far looks good!
    
               Rich G.

    Please Change my node to Darth::
    
    Warren Schorr
    SWS
    New Jersey District
    
    Mail Stop KYO
    

    Greetings, all.
    
    I'm new to this file, but it's a pleasure to read it.  I am:
    
    Harris Chasen
    DSSDEV::CHASEN
    ZKO2-3/R56
    
    And I'm the TPU development supervisor.  I'm living in Leominster (the
    last outpost of civilization) and schlepping to Spitbrook. 
    

    Ronald Goodstein
    
    GRDIAN::GOODSTEIN
    FPO/B7
    DTN:283-7485
    
    IVIS hardware engineering design.
    
    	I am probably the only Jew living in Stoneham.  Would like someday
    to share a house or become a housemate with someone in Brookline.  I
    am heavily involved in Jewish organizations such as the Jewish Young
    Adult Center in Brookline.  I am originally from Valleystream, Long
    Island and then lived with my parents in New Haven, Conn.

    Herb Goldberg
    DELNI::GOLDBERG
    
    Live in Acton, work in Litleton, King St.  Born and raised in the
    Bronx, N.Y. (Any Clintonites out there?) Made it from the Bronx
    to Paris to Israel to Athens to New England.  That's progress?
    
    Happy to join.

    Re .48
    
    Clinton? Are you you kidding? Everyone knows Taft was always a better
    school. 8-}
    
    			Shalom,
    				Fred
    

    Steve Schwartz
    SHIMON::SCHWARTZ (when my MicroVax is up)
    WHAT::SCHWARTZ (when it isn't)
    HLO2-3/C10 -- DTN changing soon
    
    Native New Yorker,
    previously of Jamaica, Bellmore, Cambridge, Haifa, Allston, 
                  Brookline, Brighton, Amherst,
    currently of Sharon,
    generally nomadic (member, U-Haul Frequent Fliers Club).

    
    
    	You know, I asked that everyone put thier names
    	here and I did not even do it.
    
    	Name:	Michael Bruce Mahler
    	Work:	Andover (CAD Systems Engineering)
    		Soon, maybe Stow (Field Service Engineering).
    		SOftware Engineer
    	Live:	Renting now. (Worcester County).
    	Age:	23
    	Born:	Brooklyn Ny.
    	Raised:	Baldwin, Long Island
    	Schooled:	SUNY Stony Brook, Buffalo and WPI.
    	
    	My Parents are COnservative Jews (Mother's parents from Austria)
    					 (Father's from Russia).
    
   	
	

    John Bishop
    ZK-2, Technical Langauges (TLE::)
    
    If it had been my mother's mother instead of her father....

    Currently living in Nashua, which is now too large a city for me.

    Rima Zolina  CIPHER::ZOLINA  Merrimack, NH

Name:	Reuven A. Hoffman (but everyone calls me Ronnie or Ron
	ever since my Air-Force days).

Node:	GRDIAN::HOFFMAN

Location: Burlington, MA - not for long, though.

Extension: DTN 283-6300.

Israeli born. Sauntered into the States "for two and a half
years" twelve years ago and still here. In DEC over five years,
the last couple were spent as Consultant Engineer with the IVIS
group.

    REGISTRATION
    
    NAME: Ira Morris
    TITLE: Technical Support Manger
    LOCATION: NRO5
    NODE: PHENIX::MORRIS
    
    18 years in DEC....Do I get the longevity award??

    
    Charlotte Temple
    
    CIPHER::TEMPLE
    
    MK01 2/L06
    
    I just started a DEC a couple of months ago and last week found
    this notes conference.  The range of people participating boggles
    my mind.
    
    
    re: 48 
    
    Evander Childs HS , Bronx, N.Y. Any Allerton Ave. folks out there???

    David L. Srebnick
    BAGELS::Srebnick
    LKG1-3/B19
    
    Started with DEC in September of 1984.  Previously worked for small
    consulting firm in Darien, CT for 2 years.  Before that, I was a
    "Techniques Specialist" (translation: system programming and support)
    at General Electric's Housewares and Audio Business Division,
    Bridgeport, CT.  (That division is now in two parts: GE Audio Business
    Division, and Black & Decker Small Appliances.)
    
    I live in Waltham in Windsor, Village (Yuppie-ville).

    I'm leaving Hudson to pursue a Phud in AI at Rutgers Univ. (New
    Brunswick, NJ).  I'll still be working with the group up here, but
    will be off the Enet.
    
    "Chag Sameach, y'all.  It's been real."
    
    					--- Steve/Shimon Schwartz

    No ARPANET at Rutgers ?

    At least send MAIL ?

    (Hope I'm not too late to indtoduce myself)
    
    Don Feinberg
    HYDRA::FEINBERG
    LTN2-2/H07
    

    < Note 32.61 by ZEPPO::MAHLER "Michael" >
                                  -< Hello ? >-



    No ARPANET at Rutgers ?

    At least send MAIL ?

------------------
    
    Yes ARPANET.  No Enet account.  Ergo no NOTESing.
    I will be a funded student, not a reimbursed employee.
    "It's only money."

    How about if we all volunteer to compile NEW listings on a weekly
    Basis and ARPAnet it to Mr. Schwartz !  I then volunteer my efforts
    to PAINfully insert replies that he will send.

	    No prob.

    I'm touched.  I don't know what to say.  Partially because I don't
    have an account at Rutgers yet.  But there's time enough for that.
    
    I am planning on spending the summer at Yeshivat Or Sameach in Monsey,
    NY; far away from the maddening drone of my uVax I's hard disk.
    
    					--- S.

    Rich (Reuven Afroim) Horwitz  - that's right- only ONE 'O'.
    Currently a Logistics Planner (F/S) in Piscataway, NJ  M/S=LYF
    Node= NYALYF::HORWITZ
    
    On one side I come from a long line of 'damnyankees' - we've been
    in the U.S. since before 1840.
    On the other side, I'm second generation American born (Zayde was
    born outside of Kiev).
    I was born and raised in Newark, NJ
    Bar Mitzvah at Young Israel of Newark (is that a chain or franchise?)
    When younger, I loved going to Zayde's shul in a loft.
    Now, not affiliated but a little left of Reform.
    Married to a shicksa who is more observant (Jewish) than I (Mom
    coaches).
    A beautiful, brilliant 7 year old princess in the making.
    2 questions:
    Is BAGELS anything like AZA??? (Is there a dance this weekend?)
    Does anyone know a Daniel Seligman, originally from Newark, used
    to be in the Co. phone book?
    
    NOTE:  Re: 60   Rutgers (my alma mater) sits right in between the
    two Piscataway facilities, LYF and KYO. Maybe something can be worked
    out.
    
    Shalom aleichem,
    Reuven
    

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Hello there --
    
     I'm a contractor working currently in Woburn on a Application
    conversion project. I've worked on and off for Digital for the last
    four years on both MIS and Engineering projects. Please don't include
    me on any mailing list since my node address tends to change (been
    at 6 different sites on 12 different nodes so far).
    
    I am a Jew-by-choice (Reform). I became one during time I lived in Sulphur,
    LA (Next to Lakes Charles on the Western border). The temple I attended
    was the only one within 150 miles at the time (probably still is).
    Living in the South, I got to see the results of the 'spreading of
    gospel' at close range and it caused me to action on thoughts I
    had been thinking in the back of mind for some time. Now please,
    any Christian Readers of file don't take this the wrong way, I believe
    fully in free choice for everyone, and for me, what I saw in the
    South was not something I wanted to be a part of. I apoligise for
    any possible offense and realize that the vocal minority there is
    not doesn't represent the majority of Christians.
    
    Enought said, Currently I live in Hopkinton with my wife, 3 children,
    a 20# cat, a normal cat, and a dog. We all pleased with our choice
    of the Jewish Religion and definitly like New England MUCH better
    than Sulphur, LA.
    
    I discovered this notes file on this current contract, and have
    enjoyed reading, I hope it stays around. I'll give a browse whenever
    I work at Digital (and have the time and if the SYSMGR doesn't mind
    the NET LINK). 
    
    
    If there's any problem with contractors browsing this file, just
    tell me and I'm gone (Just checking, hasn't been in the past, but
    policy changes).    
    
    
    						Shalom,
    
    							Dave
    

Mike Richard
CXO1-1/M26
SSDEVO::RICHARD
Sub Systems Development

Not Jewish, but interested in discussions in this conference.


/Mike

    Phil Bancroft - Maine Raised - Scottish mother (lost tribe)
    Officially Christian, really pan-theist.  Studied a good deal about
    most of the worlds major religeons.  Am uncomfortable with most
    of the far-Eastern sects, and do not like Thugee (India) at all.
    Parents were anti-semitic, anti-black, etc., but raised me to make
    up my own mind.  I found I am interested in learning from those
    of cultures different from my Down-East background.

    Lauren Schwartz  (female)
    
    Can be reached at:  myvax::lschwartz
    Location:  Design Methods Group - Andover
    Living:  after July 26, Seabrook, N.H.
    Born and raised:  Pomona, N.Y. (near Monsey)
    Graduated:  Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
    	 	Bachelor of Science in Design 1986
    Started working at DEC: June 30, 1986
    Jewish background:  . Young Judaea
    			. Pomona Jewish Center (conservative)
    			. Participated in the "Volunteers for Israel Program"
    			  May-June 1984
    			. been to Israel twice
    
    Please send me mail.  I'm a stranger in a strange land.
    	

You don't need any text in this note, do you?  My node and name are 
in the header, right?  Actually, it's {ECCGY1,ECCGY4}::BARTA.

I'm Jewish by heritage, and definitely NOT by religion (I have no 
religion).  If, for some unguessable reason, you'd like to know more,
I'm about to write a reply to 14.0, "Heritage versus religion". 

Gabriel.  (For the benefit of the English -- who often make this 
           mistake -- I am male.)

Joyce Desmarais
HLO2-3/E09
LOGIC::DESMARAIS

Tech writer and musician, both part-time.

Working on artificial intelligence languages in Hudson, Mass.
Living in Boylston, Mass., just northeast of Worcester.

    I'm embarrassed - I've been reading and writing to this file for
    months, and haven't registered.
    
    Bruce Sloane
    TOPDOC::SLOANE
    DTN 264-4926
    MK01-2/l6
    
    I'm a technical writer with Applications Systems Development. I've
    been with DEC almost 5 years (pin and dinner soon). I live in the
    tiny town of Boscawen, NH, north of Concord. (The town is so small
    the post office address is Penacook.) My family consists of Joy,
    my wife, and two daughters in college. Joy is not Jewish, and when
    we were married everybody was against it because I was a northern
    Jew, and she was a southern Christian, etc. The kids have had no
    religious training of any kind, although one daughter considers
    herself to be Jewish.
    
    I was brought up as a nominal Jew in northern New Jersey (another
    one), but am fairly ignorant of many things. 
    
    My many-times great-grandparents on one side were interpreters to 
    the Tsar in Russia (family name Solomon), and left at the start of 
    the Russian Revolution. My other grandfather was brought up as the
    son of a rag picker in Keene, NH (family name Lipschitz, Americanized
    to Lipsett). He went to New York and became a successful businessman.
    
    Baruch Bazalel Ben Zion
    
    aka Bruce Sloane

    re. 66 - I know Daniel Seligman...He disappeared from Bergil about
    2 or 3 years ago.  His brother was a very good friend of mine when
    we went to elementary school and then high school.   I thought of
    calling the elder Seligmans to find out what their boys were up
    to...but never did.
    
    I guess this means i better introduce myself:
    
    	Born Levi Rosenhand in Jezreel Valley (Afula to locals)
    	Came to U.S.A at age of 8.  Lived mainly in n.j. and upstate
    	n.y.  Name changed to Len.  Nobody except some foreigners could
        pronounce a 'levi' to rhyme with 'chevee'.
    
    	After graduating Weequahic High School in 1969 (that should have
    	been enough for anybody then and there...but no) went to Rensselaer
    	Polytechnic Institute in Troy, N.Y. - and learned mathamagics.
    
    	Then four years in Rome, N.Y. working for government contractor
    	at Griffis Air Force Base in a branch of artificial intelligence.
    
    	In 1977, joined DEC in the field (back in n.j.) and worked mainly
    	with Bell Labs projects.  Then, in October 1980 came back to
    	Israel.   (Since then, I have seen my relatives in the U.S.
    	more often then when living in the U.S.).
                                             
    	(Married a Sabra -Ziva-  in Israel and now have two little thorns -
    	Omri who is 2.5 years and Hadar a mere 4 months).

  YELENA PISAREVSKAYA
  WOO/S74
  236-2407
  SALLIE::YELENA

    I'm a Jew new to the New England area. Please add me to the
    distribution list:
    			EVE::S_ASHLUND
    Thanks,
    	
    	Stacey

    
    Michael Greenberg
    SQM::GREENBERG
    DTN 881-2657
    
    Work in Nashua, live in Merrimack. Graduated from the University
    of New Hampshire in May and began working at DEC in July. I'm
    interested in meeting other young Jewish people in this area so
    if you fit this category, send mail!

    I'm Rivka,and I live in the most beautiful city in the whole world-
    -JERUSALEM,or as we call it-yerushalaim.
    I'm quite new in this family,but I love every minute of it...
        Would ya like to know anything alse????
        Mail your whatever to JEREMY::RIVKA
    
                             SHANA-TOVA(??)
    

    The E-net address above belongs to David Kravitz.  I'm on Rick's
    Cluster Americain (don't have a VT220) in Hudson, MA, doing VLSI
    circuit design for a future microprocessor.  15 months so far!
    
    I've been in the area (Brookline, Brighton) for five years now,
    and I've just moved out to Boxborough to be closer to work.
    Did I say that?  Right now I'm trying to find a congregation to
    pray with.  It's not easy in that area.  I grew up in a _very_
    Conservative leaning, yet still Reform shul -- Adas Shalom in
    Havre de Grace, MD (Ira Grollman, I know you're out there somewhere).
    I guess I'm looking for something similar up here.
    
    One thing I wonder about lately: Are there any Jewish Dead-heads?
    
    Dave Kravitz
    HLO1-1/S11
    225-7148
    RICKS::KRAVITZ	{try BOGART,BACALL,INGRID, or LARGO on old databases}

    JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO AND ADD MY NAME TO ANY DISTRIBUTION LISTING
    THAT YOU ARE PUTTING TOGETHER.  MY NODE::NAME IS NYMGR::COHEN, FIRST
    NAME IS JILL... I STARTED WITH DEC IN JUNE, AND WORK FOR AREA SALES
    SUPPORT.  PLEASE ADD ME TO THE DISTRIBUTION LISTING, AND HAVE A
    HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    REGARDS,
    JILL COHEN

    Hello. My name is Jeffrey Wolf. I am a software engineer with Local
    Area Systems in Littleton (LKG). I grew up in Brookline (Mass)
    but now reside in Marlboro (Ma) with my wife, daughter and dog.

    
    Hi,
    	I wanted to be part of this notesfile, too. My name is Linda
    Roman. I live in Middleton, Massachusetts and work as a Software
    Specialist doing installations for Field Service out of the Waltham
    office - WAO.
    
    NAAD::ROMAN
    USWAV1::ROMAN
    221-5676
    
    Happy New Year to Everyone

    I've been "tasting" Bagels for the past month and have realized
    that I'm not yet "registered".  So I'll start 5747 by coming out.
    
    Avraham Frydman A.K.A. Avi or Av (depending on how friendly you
    are)
    I work in Parker Street (PKO3) just south of beautiful downtown
    Maynard and the "CLOCK TOWER".
    I'm a program manager for US Software Service.
    My wife, children and I live in Brookline and belong to Cong. Beth
    Pinchas (better known as the "Bostoner Rebbe's Shul".
    
    I was born in Germany after the war and my family emmigrated to
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin.  As are a number of other "noters", I'm a
    child of survivors.
    
    We kept a "kosher" home while I was growing up... but we were not
    religious... just traditional. We belonged to "orthodox" shuls mainly
    because that's where the immigrant families felt most comfortable
    (everyone spoke Yiddish).
    
    We'll all learn more about each other as we continue to "converse"
    on Bagels.  K'sevah vi Chasema Tovah (May you be inscribed and sealed
    for a good year).
    
    
    I became a bal t'shuvah after grad school, met and married my wife
    (also a bales t'shuvah) and settled in Brookline. Both of us were
    originally influenced by Lubavitch Chassidus but were never part
    of that community.  

    Lance A. Simon
    CROW::SIMON

    I am a software engineer for VAX ACMS at Spit Brook in Nashua, NH.

    I guess it's time have a formal debut... [I don't really like
    the idea of "registering".]
                                              
    I'm Kathy Rosenbluh, I work in Marlboro in Large Systems Marketing.
    I live in Cambridge, and my [regular] shul is the Harvard/Radcliffe Hillel
    Orthodox Minyan.  On average, I daven at Tremont Street about 
    3 times a year, Young Israel of Brookline about twice, 
    Shaare T'filah of Newton about twice and the Bostoner Rebbe's about once.
    If you want to know the scoop about any of these places before
    visiting, just ask me.                                   
    Also, if you get stuck in Cambridge over shabat and need home
    hospitality, give me a call. I take care of arranging home hosp.
    for my shul.
    
    I was born in Hungary in 1956, moved to Chicago in 1962, attended Jewish
    day schools through high school, and have spent alot of time in
    Israel.  (My family now lives there.  I'll be there for the upcoming
    holiday (succot), in fact.)  Basically, I'm a fervent believer in
    Jewish education (not necessarily through day schools, however).
    I believe in education much more than I believe in aliya, prevention
    of intermarriage, popularization of folk mysticism ala Lebovich,
    halachic conversion, the havurah movement, or any of the rest of
    it.  A people without a common language can't stay a people for
    long!  [Am willing to accept and reply to flames on the above topic.]
    
    Kathy
    

	I'm not crazy about the idea of registering either but:

	Eileen Samberg
	MR1-2/E47
	High Performance Systems

	I'm mainly a read-only user interested in learning.

Ok, if you can't byte them longword them:

My name is Nitsan Duvdevani, which is the Hebrew equivalent to something
like "Bud Cherry" (I think I mentioned it in some note before). I've been
working in Digital Israel for 3.5 years now, most of the time with software
projects with applications involving communication, man-machine-interface,
etc. 

I was born in 1958, lived in Israel all the time, except for one year (1981)
in the states (in San Diego - America's finest city...). 

Main hobbies: 
 - Collecting records (especially "oldies" from the 60's plus minus)
 - Reading notes, sometimes replying to them.
 - I like to play chess, but I'm really just an amateur (sp?)
 - Math puzzles, games and theories.

Whenever in Israel, come to visit our branch!!!

TAV02::NITSAN
Tel.: whatever_prefix_for_DEC_Israel - 298

Ah, my sex? I had Bar-Mitsva in 1971...

    I've been reading for a while, contributing sporadically, and haven't
    registered. So...
    
    Dick Rosenberg
    MIS Consultant
    Digital Telecommunications MIS
    VRO5-2/C7
    273-3197
    
    Live in Harvard (one of the few), no shul yet, but am leaning toward
    Concord Area Jewish Group. Phliosophically, probably wish there
    was a Jewish equivalent to Unitarianism, but, since I went to Hebrew
    School in an Orthodox synagogue, don't feel a service is "right"
    unless it has the traditional melodies. Have 2 daughters, 6 and
    3. Am becoming more involved as my oldest is around Hebrew Scool
    age.
                 

    Sheila J. Kojm
    
    MAIL to DRAGON::KOJM
    VRO5-1/D7           
    273-3198
    
    Living in Bedford, MA, the little known suburb of Lexington, MA;
    member of Temple Emunah in Lexington, MA.                        

    Cathy Giunta
    VENTUR::GIUNTA
    WOO/D85
    236-2379
    
    I just found this file, and am interested in it so that I can learn
    and understand more about the Jewish religion.  My husband's
    grandparents on his mother's side (and their family) are Jewish,
    but his mother converted to Methodist when she married his father,
    who also converted to Methodist from catholicism (does this make
    any sense??)  To make it more confusing, I am Catholic.  Anyhow,
    I want to be able to teach our children about the Jewish religion
    and Jewish culture so that they can know all about their heritage
    on both sides.  Hopefully, I can learn lots from this file, though
    I will usually be a read-only member til I have questions.  Hopefully,
    you won't mind if I ask a dumb question now and then.
    
    

Hi all

	I was told to put my name in this note
	so here goes:

	My name, as you might have guessed, is Dror Amitai
	(Dror being the Hebrew word for liberty).
	In case you wonder if that is a boy's name -
	you are right.  It is.
	I work as a layout designer in the VLSI design center
	in Jerusalem.
	I'm a new member to this outfit (2.5 month) and I
	love every minute of it.
	I guess you'll be seeing my name on some other topics
	besides this one.

	I can be reached at:
			    JEREMY::DROR
			    ISV

				      	l'hitraot
						    Dror
	
		

KRYPTN::MAHONEY    MARY'S MOM
                 I have worked for DEC 13 years full time. 3 years on
    the Mother's Shift. I have a daughter named Mary who is a freshman
    at Brandeis University. Believe it or not she is the only Mary in
    all of her classes. I have done various jobs inside DEC. Right now
    I am an operator 2. I backup restore and delete accounts on various
    systems in the mill. I am interested in learning more about JUdiasm.

Updating .72:

Joyce (Desmarais) Isen
HLO2-3/E09
BIZET::ISEN

Tech writer and musician, both part-time.

Working on artificial intelligence languages in Hudson, Mass.
Living in Boylston, Mass., just northeast of Worcester.

(And just married!)

    Hi, my name is Sandi.  My home is in Hudson, Ma. but I was born
    and raised in Brooklyn, N.Y.  I'm divorced and have two children,
    Ian, 14 and Shara 11.  I just started reading this file and can't
    wait to try the deli in Worcester.  My job is in PK2 - I just started
    a month ago and its great.
    
    
    

    MY NAME IS STAN FEINBERG.I WORK AT THE HUDSON,MASS. LSI FACILITY
    AS AN HEATING,VENTILATION,AIR CONDITIONING MECHANIC.I LIVED ON KIBBUTZ
    PALMACHIM,JUST NORTH OF ASHDOD,FOR 10 MONTHS IN 1972-1973.I LIVE
    IA ASHLAND,MASS. 

    SHIRE::MIZRAHI
    
    Albert Mizrahi
    GEC/A801
    7-821-4477
    
    

    Avi (Avraham) Bar-Zion
    
    TAV02::BAR
    ISO
    Herzlia branch
    972 52 548355 (my office)
    972 52 921136 (my home)
    
    One of the branch of the Mark Sachs (rep 101) Israelian "family".
    
    Graduate of the Technion (Israel Institute of Technology) in
    aeronautical engeneering in 1973.
    
    In DEC from April 1984 in software advisory, & from july 1986 as
    software sales representative here in Israel.
    
    My wife Monica, my daughter Thalia (14 years old) and me will be
    happy to meet anyone of you in our Samarian house located at Kedumim
    (few kilometers from Schechem, the town of Joseph son of Jacob).

RAINBW::ETSCOVITZ
Nancy Etscovitz
BUO-D/E34
DTN: 249-4565

MORE INFO ABOUT ME IN DECSINGLES #257.

    Joseph Rayhanian
    
    WHYVAX::RAYHANIAN
    ZK01-3/J10,	s. Nashua
    software engineering
    
    In case you've never heard of a last name like 'rayhanian', that's
    because I'm originaly from Iran.  I went to school in Madison, Wisconsin
    and started working at DEC about eight months ago.

   re.-1:

 have you heard "Rhyannon" by Fleetwood-Mac / Stevie Nicks ?

    re:32.105
    
    I am afraid not.  I am not very good with the name of the songs,
    but might have heard it.  why??
    		
    						joseph

    Richard Mendes
    NYO
    BMT:: or IRT::MENDES
    DTN 333-6286 or 212/714-6286
    
    I'm a PSS project manager in the New York District. I joined DEC
    in May '86 as part of the Network Partner program.
    
    The "full" handle is Richard Maurice de Sola Mendes. My father's
    side of the family was Sephardic and Orthodox, and my mother's side
    was Ashkenazi. I was raised Reform. My wife, Ruth, was raised
    Conservative.
    
    We live in Pound Ridge, N.Y.- 50 miles outside NYC and just north
    of Stamford, Ct. About 15 years ago, a havurah was formed here.
    We've been members from the beginning. This wasn't the first organized
    (it's more of a "happening" than an "organization") Jewish presence
    in Pound Ridge, but it has endured much longer than the only
    predecessor I'm aware of. We've brought up our daughter, Rica, in
    the group, which makes her "Reconformodox". Rica goes to Bi-Cultural
    Day School in Stamford, Ct., and will be Bat Mitzvah in June.
    
    Ruth is the family authority on ritual and tradition. I bake challahs
    and freeze them in once a month, and I can immodestly say that they
    are reputed to be the best around. The recipe is a derivative of
    one found in "The Jewish Catalog", and I'll put it in a note one
    of these days.

    
    The last time I registered for something they nearly sent me to
    Vietnam..... so I have been very careful where I register since
    then. Anyway, that was back in AUSSIE land in the late 60's.
    
    So, as you probably guessed by now, Australia is where I grew up.
    
    I was raised with no formal Jewishness but was fed a very steady
    diet of Yiddishkeit at home. Being the only child I suffered more
    than most at the hands of a Polish-Australian-Jewish mother - I
    couldn't open my mouth without getting some food shoved down it!
    
    Surprisingly so, I managed to survive and even finish university
    with a piece of paper saying that I was an Aeronautical Engineer
    (it was a good idea at the time). Once I found my wings I naturally
    started flying but was landed by a JAP (A for Australian) who made
    a mensch out of me (more or less).
    
    We came out to Israel 10 years back for 6 months and have stayed
    ever since. The rest is pure history:
    
    - 3 kids, one war, 400% inflation and other minor irritations but
      we're still here.
    
    I have been with DEC in Hertzliya for the past 4 years eeking out
    a living as I drifted thru various jobs.
    
    So, if any of you are ever make it out here, give me a call. If
    you just happen to bring a couple of cans of Fosters Lager I won't
    say no.
    
    (Any other Ex or ortherwise Aussie Jews out there?)
    
    Just for the record :
    
    	Name	: Mike mayer
    	Node	: TAV02::MAYER
    	DTN	: 7-882-8245
    
    

    
    G'day (read HI)
    		
    	My name is Michael Belakhov.
    		   SNO78C::BELAKHOV.

        I have been working for DEC Australia since May 1986 for the
    Northern Districts Consulting unit (based in Sydney) in the role
    of a Software Specialist.

    	I am Jewish but not in the least bit religious, i.e. the only
    time I attend synogogue is when someone is getting married.  My
    Jewishness to me is a cultural identity rather than a religious
    one.
    
    	I was born in USSR and was lucky enough to leave at the age
    of ten, i.e. 1975.  My lack of religion should not be attributed
    to lack of knowledge, as I attended a Jewish religious school in
    Australia for a number of years. 
    
       I am looking forward to contributing to this notes file and if anyone
    would like some questions about Australia answered, please send
    me mail on the above address or place the question in a note and
    I will try to answer.  I understand that Australia is currently
    a very popular place to visit for Americans as our dollar is only
    worth 68 cents US and we have by far the most beautiful and awe
    inspiring land in the world.
    
    P.S. We also have the very best beer in the world !!!
    

    You get Pabst in Aussie Land?

    

re: .111
                            -< What is PABST ????? >-

Well, let me put it this way.  The brewers have to send samples to the state
department of health.  Once, they received a reply as follows:

  "We regret to have to inform you that your horse has diabetes."

Martin.

    NAME: Alan Shepro
    Age:  under 35
    Hair: most
    Single: not any more and loving it!!
    Born: less than 35 years ago
    Where: Springfield, Ma
    now:  Brookline, Ma
    rather be: Southern California
    DTN: 244-6453
    Title: Senior Software Support Specialist??
           AKO1-3/P4
    Bad points: Wife says I tell bad jokes:
    Good points: Not too many
    
    

    Hi, I'm Sandy Haber, I too live in Boxboro (where do you live, .79?),
    have a 3-yr old son Jaime and hubby Jeff who also is a DECcie over
    at AKO.
    
    I'm a librarian at the Mill, have been with DEC now for 5 years
    (minus maternity leave, but who's counting?)  I just discovered
    this file, and jotted down lots of numbers of topics from the directory
    to look at later this afternoon when I get too tired to catalogue
    another technical report coherently.
    
    Am active in the Acton-Concord Hadassah chapter, less active in
    the Sisterhood at Temple Beth Elohim.
    
    "Vitals" :  MLO4-3/A20, DTN 223-2634 (only part time -- remember
    	I have a toddler!)
    		Born in Irvington NJ, lived in Elizabeth in what was
    	then known as the Village.  Moved to New Haven when 2 1/2 and
    	to Hamden CT when I was 4; parents still there.  Went to school
    	on "Longisland" at C.W. Post, then grad school at Southern Conn.
    	Worked in Washington DC as govt. librarian till 1980 when I
    	got tired of the transiency of people and relationships.  Have
	been in New England since then, and love it.
    		Was brought up conservative, now belong to quasi-Reform
    	synagogue in Acton [still prefer my home-town temple].
    
    Glad to find this file -- will be a regular reader and semi-regular
    contributor.

    Larry Fishman
    FDCV18::FISHMAN
    PKO3-2/33G
    
    Living in Brighton.
    

    
    Stan Natanson
    FDCV03::NATANSON
    PKO3-2/33G
    
    Living in Sudbury
    

    Gary S.  Engelson
    SHR1-4/B10
    Shrewsbury, MA, USA

    Living in Worcester, MA.  My family and I are members of
    Congregation B'nai Shalom in Westboro.

    Sandy Newman
    TWO
    
    	I am in the process of relocating from BTO(Burlington VT.) to
    TWO (Tewksbury MA)  I am going to live in Nashua N.H.  I am originally
    from Mahwah N.J.

    Debbie Joy
    Networking Specialist
    ESG Product Marketing
    MRO3-1/M18
    DTN 297-5428
    
    I'm not a Jew but I'm getting involved with one so I'm interested
    in learning more about Jews, their religion and traditions. I figure
    it can only help me understand him better. I'll probably mostly
    just listen but may have a question or two at times. 
    

    Joel Magid
    Sr Product Manager ISTG
    DTN 225-5822
    
    Born in New Jersey
    ISTG::MAGID       
    

    
    Aryeh Haimovitz
    
    TRFSV2::A_HAIMOVITZ
    
    TRC12/1
    
    DTN: 637-3413
    
    I was born in Hadera, Israel, raised in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe)
    returned to Israel in 1973 where I lived on kibbutz Ma'ayan Zvi
    for 6 years (also while doing my army service).I am now married
    to a Canadian and living in the beautiful city of Toronto and have
    been working at DEC in field service for the past 6 years.
    
    Regards to all,
    
    Aryeh. 

    Anita-Marie Magenheim
    
    TSE::MAGENHEIM
    TWO/C1 (Tewksbury, MA.)
    
    Age:     27
    Status:  Single and the radar is always on
    Job:     Senior Manufacturing Engineer 
    
    Born and raised in the Bronx.  I moved up to New England after
    graduation (BSEE) in 1981, and am now living in the cultural
    hotbed known as Nashua, N.H.  Not religious, but rather, ethnic.

    	Shalom!
    I'm Russ Grace (Reuven Avraham).
                                     
    Status: Now UN-attached and looking to meet new friends. 
    
    I'll complete the program for Software Technical Writing, Aug. 8th.   
    which is a College level program 22 weeks long and qualifies me as
    S.W. Tech. Writer.
    
    Node MAGIC1::Grace - I'm in MR02 until then; afterward - maybe Spitbrook.
    Mailstop: MR02-LA/A42
                   
    Loves: My home-made Ice-Cream, Woody, B&W/and color photo art, biking,
    Audiophile stereo, good healthy food.
    
    
    
    Age: 36 1/2    

    Hi!  My name is Susan Stearman.
    
    I've been with Digital for seven months now and just found this
    conference.
    
    Statistics:
    	Age: 32 (single)
    	Location: the Mill
    	Home: Cambridge (near Harvard Square)
    	Hometown: Md suburbs of D.C.
    	Mail:  ADVAX::STEARMAN
    
    I used to be very connected to Judiasm and the Jewish community,
    but in recent years my career has taken precedence.  I am coming
    around again, though, and am excited about this conference.
    
    Computer graphics is my beat!  But I speak other topics too.
    
    

    I live everywhere.
    

    My name is Martin Cohen
    
    I just started at DEC a few weeks ago.
    
    HJUXB::COHEN
    
    That's in Holmdel New Jersey.

    DAVID WALDMAN
    NODE   NRPUR::WALDMAN
    WORK IN NORTHBORO

    Bob Frolich
    Node  BAGELS::FROLICH
    CHM1-1/1N
    272-7099
    

    Lee Lafferty
    Wash.,D.C. DWS /DWS
    FS Engr.
    8 years w/DEC 9jul87
    
    My primary interest in BAGELS is in trying to understand what I
    may have missed or may have even lost in my own cultural heritage.
    I am filled with questions and yet know not where to start. So for
    now, this goyim is content to read, contemplate and wonder. Read,
    that I might gain some small appreciation of the collective heritage
    of this thing called 'Jewishness'. Contemplate, that what I know of
    my own culture would be vastly different without knowledge of this
    culture. And by the afinity I feel towards this people, wonder if
    my ancestry has always been goyish.
    
    For now...
    lee

    Alan Ross
    NODE is FDCV03
    Location is Parker Street
    
    I live in Sharon.
    
    Have recently discovered this conference and also HUMAN RELATIONS,
    and find I can identify with many topics in both of them very much.
    
    Since I'm a  confirmed yente, I'm sure you'll be hearing from me.
    
       Alan
      

    Ed Adler
    Node HJUXB::ADLER
    DECmail Ed Adler @HJO
    With Digital 15 years
    

    Soultane Saadeh
    Node = (filmor,truman,harry,oliver)
    location = Nashua, Newhampshire (USA)
    
    I have lived in Leominster, Massachusetts for 19+ years. Dad brought
    the family to this country when I was 6 years young.
    
    I like notes and find that I can meet all sorts of people here.
    
    I work for CSS(computer special systems) as a Programmer Analyst
    and am looking to get into Networking or maybe AI.  
    
    Hi Rami Lahav,  in Tel Aviv.
    
    Regards,
    Soultane

    Hi!
    
    I'm Elisabeth Rittner. I work in the Lawrence, Massachusetts facility
    as a Principal Writer/Course Developer. I've been at Digital since
    February '87. I'm glad to back in a big company (and this is BIG!!).
    
    I "discovered" notes a few weeks ago, but only discovered the "fun
    stuff" to read (like Bagels) last week!! So many interesting and
    fun people sharing fun and important information!!
    
    Enjoy!!
    
    Elisabeth
    
    VWO/C02 (Lawrence, Mass)
    node WAGON::RITTNER
    dtn 285 - 6145
    

    Hello all,
    
    I guess now that I've begun to regularly read and participate in
    the "Bagels" conference, I ought to introduce myself....
    
    I'm Sam Freeman (Shmuel Mordechai).  I'm an engineering supervisor
    in the Tape and Optical Products Group, located in Shrewsbury, MA
    (near Spags).  I've been with Digital almost 3 years.
    
    Grew up in Teaneck, New Jersey, a suburb of Manhattan.  Left to
    go to college and never returned.  I've been wandering ever
    since - Boston, Dallas, San Francisco.  Currently live in
    Westborough, MA.
    
    Grew up in a moderatively conservative home.  In the home we were
    kosher, outside we bent the rules.  I guess that's why I stopped
    keeping stricly kosher when I left. I still generally avoid pork
    and don't mix milchig and fleshig though.  Right now I'm a once
    a year Jew.  Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur are the only times I
    make a point of going to Shul.  On the other hand, I'm very
    conscious of my Jewishness.  I guess I practice Judaism the way
    Moses Mendelsohn (sp) might have.
    
    I'm single, still looking for the right person.  You can read more
    about that, and more about me, in Bagels note 128.35.

    I'm quite recognizeable, being a 4'2" dwarf.  Business takes me
    to most of the development sites.  If you happen to see me, do
    say hello.
    
    /Sam

    Milt Plaut
    SRFSUP::PLAUT
    PLAUT @ LAO
    
    I joined Digital about 3 monthgs ago.  I just found this conference
    this week and have been enthralled of it!  Many of the discussions
    are very interesting.  As a born schmoozer I'm sure I'll have a
    few words to say now and then.  I was born in New York City and
    moved to Southern California in 1971.  I'm remarried and have a
    9 year old daughter, Shayna by my first marriage.  I attended an
    Orthodox Hebrew School until my Bar Mitzvoh.  Currently I go to
    Shul on Rosh Hashonnah and Yom Kippur only.
     

    Gene Radwin
    CSTVAX::RADWIN
    RADWIN @OGO
    
    Am new to Digital and newer to NOTES. Enjoying both.
    

I am expanding and correcting the contents of my original entry in this note.

Dick Schoeller "Gavriel"
MLO5-2/T40	pole 43b
DTN 223-1670

Lisa Robinson Schoeller "Alisa"
APO1-2
DTN 289-1078

I am recently returned to DEC after a few years seeing the engineering
world.  And I am glad to be back.  I was originally with CADSE in Maynard then
Andover.  I spent the last 3 years at Teradyne in beautiful downtown Boston.
I am now in the Engineering CAD department of LEST.  I do Inhuman-Interfaces
(Mice and Menus and other famous novels).

My wife is in Advanced Test Technology and has managed to stay here at DEC
straight through.  She never NOTES for pleasure so she didn't know about
BAGELS.

We currently live in Needham.  We do not have a shul yet but we are looking
around.  No kids (this makes us DINKs - Double Income No Kids).  We lean
toward Traditional Conservative (some claim this is an oxymoron 8^{) ).

L'hit,
Gavriel

    Change address of MENSCH::FALKENBERG to
    
    		HALLEY::FALKENBERG.
    
    					Thanks

    Change address of DPDMAIL::WEINBERGER to
    
               DPD04::WEINBERGER.
    
    				Thanks

    hi. i just found out about the jewish notes file. (where have I
    been? here in Israel, that's where!) anyway, please enter me:
    		TAVSWS::ALAN
    thanks.
    shana tova!

    RE: .144
    
    It's good to know that you sell your first name the correct (and
    only) way.
    
    Alan Shepro,
    FAIS

O' COURSE! WHADDAYA THINK I GONNA WRITE "ALLEN" OR SOMETHIN? GODALLMIGHTY
    THE WAY SOME PEOPLE DON' KNOW NOTHIN!

    WHAT I FORGOT TO SAY: I AM ALAN (AHARON) ZAITCHIK, BORN AND RAISED
    IN BOSTON, BUT LIVING ON AND OFF IN ISRAEL SINCE 1973. ONCE UPON
    A GILGUL (PREVIOUS INCARNATION) I TAUGHT PHILOSOPHY AT BEN-GURION
    UNIVERSITY OF THE NEGEV (BEERSHEVA), BUT SINCE 1982 I HAVE WORKED
    FOR DEC ED SERVICES, FIRST IN BEDFORD (PRONOUNCED "BEFFUD" BY LOCALS)
    AND THEN BACK IN ISRAEL. 
    CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY YOU CAN'T GET A DECENT PASTRAMI SANDWICH
    HERE IN ISRAEL? OR EVEN A GOOD BAGEL?! OH WELL....

    Alan, of course
    Allen
    Allan
    Allyn (girl)
    
    
    
    And that's the easy part.  If only you could hear, and see, what
    people do to my last name.  Even Johnny Carson messed up. (The Tonight
    Show, April 26, 1985)
    
    
    Alans of the world, unite and educate!!!!!
    
    

Rich Robbins

ISTG::ROBBINS
HL02-3/P04
225-6043

    Penelope Greene
    
    GLINKA::GREENE
    DTN 223-7322
    work: Mill
    live: Cambridge
    do: Statistics
    	and music 
    	and cats
    
    "Penelope" you say?
    
    Better than "Geoffrey" -- my brother!
    
    Our parents reacted against a strict
    Brooklyn Orthodox background, obviously!

                 
                    TAKA
    
    Just started at Digital, and very happy to find BAGELS.  I'm
    documenting in Hudson, living in Cambridge, and hope eventually
    to be living in Ha-Aretz--sooner, rather than later.
    
    BOGART::REISS
    DTN 225-5170
    
    --Fern Reiss
    

			>Greetings<

Hi y'all,

I'm glad to see so many of you lovely people out there, and would
especially like to thank the members of Illinois' law enforcement
community, who have chosen to join us at the Palace Hotel Ballroom...

Whoops.  Wrong movie.

Anyway, count me in among the loyal readership...

I don't know my DTN, except that I'm at LTN1 and the last 4 digits
are 6680.  Write letters, give me a call sometime.

Chuck Stern
BEOWLF::STERN

    Alan Spillert
    LKG1-3/G6 - Networks and Communications IS
    
    I'm active in the Concord Area Jewish Group.  We are planning to
    build a synagogue in Concord, just off Rt 2 near the Howard Johnson's
    restaurant.  Fund raising is well under way, and we have our building
    permits.  The group is reconstructionist; we're relatively small
    (120 families), young, and have an excellent Rabbi.
    
    Glad to find this notes conference.
    

    
    Susan Lutwak
    node is NATASH::LUTWAK
    Located in Stow, MA @OGO 1-1/F13
    working in the Management Sciences group- an internal consulting
    group working OD, Marketing, Logistics, Financial, Survey analysis
    for Product Marketing, Industry marketing, SWS,Field Service,
    Corp Accounts, GIA sales & marketing.
    
    My family lives in Arlington where there are dozens of Jewish
    families. We belong to Temple Emunah in Lexington, but also are
    part of a minyan that meets monthly. It primarily serves families
    with young children. If anyone is interested, call me (dtn 276-9341)
    or send a note to Natash::Lutwak.
    
    Like others, I'm a child of survivors.
    
    I've been in Massachusetts for 15 years and via Philadelphia originate
    from Brooklyn.
    
    
    
    

    Hello out there in the land of bagels. My name is Dave Waldman  and
    I work in Northboro in Corp. Admin Purchasing. Currently reside
    in the #1 city in the galaxy aka Nashua. I thoroughly enjoy reading
    about the lives and times in Dorchester, Chelsea, Revere having
    spent some part of my youth in each. My DTN is 234-5098. I am on
    NRPUR::WALDMAN.

    
    Shalom, all.
    
    I've been at DEC for a month, at MKO1.  I currently live in Concord,
    NH, but plan to move closer to Merrimack in the near future.
    
    I've just started looking at this Conference -- I'm sure you'll see
    my comments in various topics!
    
    Beverly (GROK::)Kasper
    DTN 264-5366
    

    Hi.  I'm Debbie Wasserman.  I've been at DEC for 9 years.  I live
    in a condo in Brookline, but will probably be selling and looking
    for a house this year.  Since I most likely won't be able to afford
    the kind of house I want in Brookline, I'll be looking in other
    towns in the Boston area.  I am interested, however, in living in
    an area with a Jewish population, temples, food, etc, and I'm not
    sure what towns would provide that.
    
    I've just joined this conference - it looks interesting!
    

    Gerald Sacks
    ZKO2-3/N30
    DTN 381-2085
    
    Just joined DEC from NYC (originally Syracuse).  Living in Lowell,
    nearest Orthodox community to Nashua.

    
    After reading through 160 entries to this note, I've decided to
    take the plunge.  Here goes...
    
    Steve Engel
    PIGGY::ENGEL
    NRO2 US Area Distribution IS
    DTN 234-4378
    
    (Now that wasn't so bad.  Maybe I'll start to respond to other topics.)
    

    
    Robert Holt  
    Software Engineer attached to US Worksystems Sales
    Palo Alto, Ca.
      
    ex-Catholic 
    
    

    
    Also, EXODUS::FROMME.  But this is temporary until DEC stops playing
    "musical facilities" with our group. Currently in Stow.
    
    Back after a year away from the fold. Still single and unattached
    (go wild, matchmakers and SJF's). Interested in this conference because I
    was a Judaic Studies minor in college. Dreading moving to Cow Hampshire
    ( is there a Coolidge Corner in Nashua ? ). Living in Waltham.

    Francoise Hembert
    PKO-3 B/11
    DTN 223-4944
    
    BIGMAC::HEMBERT
    Francoise Hembert@PKO
    
    Got married twice ...to the same guy though (once in Belgium where I
    come from, and the second time in Nashua where I now live).
    time in Nashua where I now live).
                                        . Work in Parker Street as a
    course developer (ALL-IN-1).
    
    Nicknames are "Fransou" and "Hembo"
    

Current address (see .71): Gabriel Barta @GEO (or SHIRE::BARTA).

    
    
    Re: .151.  My node has changed; I'm now at CADSYS::REISS.  Thanks.
    								 --Fern

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CAD::LEVITIN "Sam Levitin"                           14 lines  13-SEP-1986 22:49
                        -< Shalom, Y'all (Sam Levitin) >-
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As we say in Jewish families from the South, "Shalom, Y'all!"
[My mother from Wilkes-Barre, PA, got a real kick out of that
when she met my dad.] My father's father's father helped build
Congregation Beth El in Norfolk, VA.

I'm Sam Levitin, and you'll probably get a good idea of my
Jewish background by reading my note on shuls. I've cooped with
DEC off and on since summer 83, and started full time this
summer. I work in Hudson in the Semicustom CAD group. I like
cycling, soccer, puzzles, and NOTing, to name a few interests.
(I read-only quite a few conferences, but if you look
carefully, I occasionally appear in DCL, PLI, and some of the
CAD conferences.)  

Update: March 1988:
I'm now working within the Advanced Development group in SEG
on a CMOS VLSI layout synthesizer.
Mostly Read-only on bagels. Oh well.

S.

    Hi!
    
    I'm updating some MAJOR changes since my previous entry at 32.125.
                                                   
    I graduated the DEC/MCC Technical Writing Program at MRO in August.
    Then the start of my writing career began at LKG in NaC publications.
    
    Phyllis and I were married in a small temple in Canton on November 
    1st. We went on our honeymoon to Disneyworld/Epcot and then cruised 
    to Nassau. We came back to live in Burlington for a short while
    and continued to look for some type of housing for the beginning
    of the year. 
    
    We bought our first home at the end of February and now live in
    Westford. We attended the Welcome Wagon meeting for newcomers in
    Westford last night and we're finally feeling like this is real!
    
    I'm now at node DELNI::GRACE. 
    
             				Shalom,
    					Russ

    My node is on a cluster now so it is
    TSE::POLIKOFF

    another change -- couldn't figure out how to modify the original
    note.
    
    as of 3/21/88, all things being equal, my new node will be
    
    			DLNVAX::HABER
    
    sandy
    
    PS.  BTW, my family size has also increased by one -- a pretty
    little girl, Shaina Elise, joined us Oct. 25, 1987.
    
    /s
  

    Maryan Jaross
    DTN 223-5412
    PKO3-1/B11
    BIGMAC::JAROSS
    
    

    Please change my node to USACSB::SCHORR and delete any old node
    that might be listed under my name.
    
    Warren Schorr
    Site DPN
    Parsippany, NJ
    Computer Services Manager
    

    Registered a couple of months ago, think I got lost.
    
    Adrianna Swartout
    Support Engineer
    VAXstations Field Test Management
    MLO5-2/G1 pole A6  DTN: 223-2070  ENET: JACOB::SWARTOUT
    
    Live in Mendon, MA on 3 acres with husband (Jared), son (Aaron,
    1 dog, 2 cats, 1 bull and 10 chickens.  Attend Conservative shul
    in Woonsocket, RI with husband and son (we leave the animals home).
    

    Shalom!  I was lost in the last BAGELS, so here we go again!
    
    Sharon Fiekowsky
    PSG::Fiekowsky
    Address will be changing very soon, so it will be useless here.
    
    I am married and expecting our first child in October (if early,
    it could be a Rosh Hashana babe!).  We live in Santa Clara CA.
    Currently, I work at MVO, but that will be changing to UCF-5 (I
    think) and then back to somewhere in Mountain View.  Mail Stop unknown.

    Marc Schultz
    Node: DELNI::SCHULTZ
    DTN:  226-5062
    
    I'm contracting to the Networks and Communication Group in Littleton,
    MA, and live in Marlboro MA.  This is a great notesfile. 

    Steven Z. Magnes
    Node:: Obiwan::Magnes or Parvax::Magnes

    Karen Wharton
    
    KELVIN::WHARTON 
    
    I work in Andover (APO, 1.75 years) and I live in Brighton. My family
    lives in Brooklyn but we are all from Guyana. I'm single.
    
    _karen

    hi,
    
    Would you mind telling us a little bit more? ;-)
    Religion, age...?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Malcolm

    re .178
    Oh... I'm sorry.
    
    I'm 22 (23 in July) years old. I'm Christian.  I was never baptized but
    I was "christened" as a little baby.  I believe in God, etc, but I
    don't quite practice any religion, I don't go to church often.
    
    I'm black, and I've been living in America since 1981. I came to
    Boston in 1982, where I attended BU. 
    
    I'm quite interested in foreign affairs partly because I am foreign,
    and I sometimes feel like a foreigner.  I usually can relate to the
    "underdogs." 
    
    Why am I in Bagels?  I  feel as though I'm living in a vacuum where
    Jewish issues are concerned, and the vacuum has become more pronounced
    with the recent problem on the Strip. Apart for the politics, I
    know very little about traditions, history, food, and the all the
    other things which help to define a culture.  There is nothing worst
    than ignorance. 
            
    Anyway, I've been browsed through some of the topics and I like what
    I see. :-)
    
    _karen

    
    
    	Then welcome.  We hope you enjoy your reading and
    	hope even more that you continue to contribute.
    	
    	Shaarei Shalom!
    
    

David Ashkenazy Gross
DTN:	   225-4317
E-NET:	   (cluster name) DECSIM::GROSS, node name HAMAN::
Mailstop:  HLO2-3/H13

Born in the Bronx. Bar Mitzvah in Hackensack NJ. I'm getting old enough so that
I no longer like to quote my age, however, if you put a "57" in front of my
age you get the current Jewish year. (Birthday in October - I track very well.)

I am coming up on my 24th anniversary with DEC next month. Don't ask why I
haven't been into BAGELS before this, but I intend to catch up on every entry.

I started at DEC as a technical writer in the Mill. I am now a consulting
software engineer in Hudson Ma. in SEG/CAD. I live in Sudbury Mass. and belong
to a temple there. My wife comes from a small Jewish community in Rockland, Me.
I have a daughter, age 10, and twin boys, age 8.

My node name reflects my attitude towards my computer, not towards myself. I
also had a part in a Purim play 1.5 years ago and played the villian. (My kids
wanted to know why the audience was hissing me!)

    re: .181
    
    Funny--
    I grew up and was Bar Mitzvah in Hackensack too (12 years after
    you, but same HHI), live in Sudbury too, and have a wife from Maine,
    too.  Used to be a software engineer in Hudson, too.
    
    Ed
    
    The Jewish world is VERY small...

    
    Name: Mark Greenstein
    DTN: 226-7745
    E-NET: NACAD::GREENSTEIN
    M/S: LKG1-1/B15
    
    Another New Yorker but born in Queens, 23 and getting older.  Bar
    Mitzvah 10 years ago (that's a long time for me) in Queens.  I've
    been a DECie for 2 years.
    
    I've tracked BAGELS on and off for a while now and thought I would
    start to get more involved in it.  I live in Chelmsford and am single
    and am looking for a Temple to get involved in.  Any suggestions would
    be welcome.  I'm an engineer in Littleton and part of the NAC CAE
    organization.  If anyone is in the area why don't you stop by and
    say hi.
    
     
    

    I thought I registered a while ago, anyway:
    
    Yoseff Francus
    
    I live in Cambridge work at MKO
    
    Node  pernod::francus
    

    
    
    Dick Kirschbaum
    
    I am a Marketing Manager in Low End Systems in the Mill.
    I have been with DEC for 11 years.
    
    I live in Chelmsford
    
    I have two sons, one who just graduated Brandeis and one who is
    a Junior at Brandeis.

    > Dick Kirschbaum

    My father's last name, when he was a child, was "Kirschenboim".
    Then it was "Hebrewized" into "Duvdevani" (= cherry).

    I heard east European "Kirsch" were "Kirschenbiom" while German
    "Kirsch" were "Kirschenbaum".

    /Nitsan

    My name is Marty (Moshe) Lenow. My node is CHFV03 and my EM address
    is @ACI. I work in the Central Area SIC as a senior CIM consultant.
    I have just gotten into the "BAGEL" notes and already find that
    it is "geschmak". The reply that you got  on marraiges on shabbat
    was done by a "Bokie Talmud". I look foward to more interesting
    reading. 

    
    Name: Kopel Sandler    
    DTN: 297-6328
    E-NET: HYEND::KSANDLER  
    M/S: MR01-1/A65
    
    A "south of the border" one. Born in Mexico City I was raised and
    educated there. My first language was Yiddish, spoken at home.
                                                                        
    My wife was also born and raised in Mexico City. Our first child	 
    was born in Toronto, Canada and our second child (both girls) in
    Palo Alto, California.

    I started working for Digital about a month ago in Marlboro, but
    we are waiting until the school year finishes to complete moving.
    After all, wandering seems natural for me. Glad to be a part of
    bagels, and I hope I will meet some of you as time goes by.

re:  .-1

>    A "south of the border" one. Born in Mexico City I was raised and
>    educated there. My first language was Yiddish, spoken at home.
                                                                        
>    My wife was also born and raised in Mexico City. 

	Neat.  We lived just outside Mexico City in 1964 and 1965.  We were
	amazed to find that there was a relatively large Jewish
	population there.  I found it quite a "trip", at the time, to
	be speaking Yiddish with a Kosher butcher in Mexico City!

	Sigh. Nice memories!

/don feinberg

    Rik Kabel (Richard Irving Kabel, but I like TLAs)
    
    SUBWAY::KABEL, soon to be FOOBAR::KABEL when I get my 2000 on-line. 
    
    Raised Conservative, now atheist -- panentheist if you insist, I
    think Spinoza had a lot of good ideas.  My 9 year old goes to
    private (very secular) grade school and once-a-week to Hebrew
    school, although I do my best to counterbalance the heavy-handed
    Zionism he gets there. 
    
    I stay in it for the food and the discussion, and call myself a Jew
    whenever anyone threatens Jews. 
    

    Chris (Christian) Lehky. ULYSSE::, LEROUF::

    Austrian, trilingual (German, French, English), married, 3 kids.
    36 years old.

    Raised by and lived with a Jewish Family for +10 years, am Christian,
    though. 9+ years with DEC and left Vienna to work in Valbonne, France.
    The keywords to my attitude are tolerance and diplomacy. This doesn't
    prevent me from getting really upset when confronted with presomptuous
    stupidity and ignorance. Since I have Jewish friends in several
    countries, this notesfile allows me to stay informed and updated
    with some details of their respective environment, in particular,
    and with the views of the Jewish community, in general.
    
    Chris
    

    
    Marge Silverman
    
    Either HEART:: or MARVIN::SILVERMAN
    
    I'm an American living in Reading, England. I came to live here
    because my husband is British. Working for an American company is
    purely coincidental - in fact, I've only worked for DEC 16 months.
    I'm a Reform agnostic married to an Orthodox atheist . . I don't
    understand it either.
    
    I've lived here a long long long time - decades . . . I still feel
    awfully American.
    
    
    
    

    Add my name to your registration list.
    
    Marty Lenow, 178410, CC8D5
    CHFV03::LENOW
    @ACI
    
    You can look to me for answers of a historic or halachic bent. I
    am not buchi talmud but can give a good account of myself.
    
    Call me moishe.

    Stephen Popik
    DPDMAI::POPIK
    STEVE POPIK @DLO for All-IN-1 users
    

   	Yossi Dashti
    	System Analyst
    	@TUS  - Tustin/Irvine California
 	    	Southwest Area  DIS
    		(714) 259-6791


    Was born in Yerushalayim, raised in Tel Aviv, lived in Natanya
    and worked in Herzeliya.

    Have been with DEC since 83.
    2.5 years in Herzeliya Israel (IS).
    1.5 years in Southern California.

    Not religious but very involved with the local CHABAD.
    My two boys (3,5) are in CHABAD school and 
    so is my wife Ivy (teaching).

    plan to be back in TAV land (for good) in a few months. 

    Name:  Jill Cohen (aka JayCee)
    Node:  NYEM1::Cohen
    Loc:   NYO
    
    Have lived in NY most of my life (8 years outside of NY), and have
    worked for Digital's NY Area Sales Support Manager for the last
    2 1/2 years.  Single, jewish, 29 (not for long, birthday is 7/31),
    and glad to have this file to converse with others.
    
    JayCee

    Bernice Julius
    ESKIMO::JULIUS
    HLO
    
    Would love to return to Israel some day.  I have fond memories
    as an Ulpanist on the Kibbutz. 

    Shaike Artsy
    Erlang::artsy or Focs1::artsy
    LKG1, Littleton, Mass
    dtn: 226-7324
    
    Short history: born in Poland (yack) 37 yrs ago, Israeli since 1957.
    Tzahal, Hebrew university, TA university -- the usual story.  In
    USA since 8/82 (Yes, 40 days in Lebanon). 5 yrs at the U. of Wisconsin-
    Madison.  Joined DEC 10/87, principal eng. Distributed Systems AD.
    Recently moved from Chelmsford, MA to Nashua, NH.
    Married, 2 kids (funny: I was born in Poland, my wife in Paris,
    my son Avishay in Tel-Aviv and my daughter Elinor in Wisconsin).
    
    Want more contact with jewish people and israelis.  Want to know
    about DEC branches in Israel.

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    Shalom!
    
    It's time for registration:
    
    Hi, nice to meet you ALL - so have a little about myself:
    Born in 1957, raised up in the States (TX)...spent 3 years
    of my childhood in Japan (nearby Kyoto), 1 year in Aussie
    land a.s.o. 
    Lived in NYC (Yonkers) for a long time...my second home...
    my heart is still in TX (my family's home).
    My mother is an Austrian from Vienna.
    
    Personal description:
    born   : 6-19-57
    height : 174
    hairs  : darkbrown
    eyes   : darkbrown
    hobbies: music (all kind of), golf, shooting, karate, fast cars...
             movies, travelling 
    
    I presently live in GY (Germany) - 1 year in Hamburg - now, for 3 years
    in Frankfurt. I joined DEC in 1985...I'm working in the A+L Portfolio
    in the CLO in Sprendlingen. You can reach me under:
    FRAIS3::DKELLER or FRAISX::DKELLER or 50684::DKELLER
    Location code is: @NDL
    
    If there's anything else you like to know just give me a mail!
    
    L'hit
    
    DOMINIQUE-SHAUN KELLER
    

    Alan Simon
    Database Tools West Group (Colorado Springs)
    @ CXN/5 (new building)
    DTN 523-2796
    
    been at DEC since last October ('87); was Air Force officer (Captain)
    and computer consultant before that.

    Wade Rubinstein
    Digital Telecommunications EASYnet 
    VR05-2 (Cube with a view!)
    
    School:  Boston College '85 (Nice jewish school)
    Age:  Almost 25 & single
    Judaic Background:  Temple Israel, Natick.  USY as a teen.
    			AZA advisor in Framingham.  
    
    Home:  Born in Boston.  Living in Natick, but moving soon to Concord.
                                                                    
    DEC History:  Been with DEC since July '83.  Currently working as
                  Telecomm analyst for Northern New England EASYnet.    
    

    NAME:	David Abelow
    NODE:	BIMVAX
    DTN:	276-8521
    M.S.:	OGO1-1/S06
    
    SCHOOLS:	B.S. Chem. Engineering, UMASS/Amherst, 1981
    		M.B.A., Boston University, 1985
    
    BACKGROUND:	Graduate - Maimonides Yeshiva, Married, 3 children,
    		Living in Framingham.

    STAN FEINBERG
    SHARE::MAINT
      
    
    I WORK AT THE HUDSON,MASS SITE AS AN HVAC MECHANIC
    (HEATING,VENTILATION,AIR CONDITIONING). I`VE WORKED FOR
    DEC 12 YEARS. A FEW YEARS BEFORE WORKING FOR DEC I SPENT
    10 MONTHS ON KIBBUTZ PALMACHIM,JUST SOUTH OF TEL AVIV.
    I WAS  ON THE ULPAN AND WORKED IN THE MASGERIA WHILE
    THERE. THERE MUST BE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE
    THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED KIBBUTZ LIFE. 

COGMK::Malmberg

Meredith Malmberg (work)
Meredith Levine (socially)

I work in Merrimack for SWS/E ACES doing TP support.
My family and I live in Sudbury, recently transplanted from Brookline.
I attended the Sephardic Congregation at Young Israel in Brookline and 
now am a member of Beth El in Sudbury.

    I've been reading (and sometimes replying...) to this notes file
    for a while but never registered in this note:
    
    My name is Waky (nickname, of course)
    Node is PVAX::Waky
    CFO2-2/F53
    DTN 251-1272
    
    I work in Corp Personnel Data Systems; 7 + years
    Digital; 12 years
    
    I live in Lunenburg, but am a member of Congregation Beth Elohim
    in Acton.  Great community there - I'm in the choir and am the
    Librarian too.
    
    Waky

    This is my first time accessing this file...its a pleasure to register.
    
    	Carl Redfield
    	HEADS::REDFIELD
    
    

    
    LANCE KANN
    MRO3-2/H7
    BIMMRO::KANN                         
    
    Live in West Boylston, MA


                

    Colorado Springs,Co.
    COMET::KIMBALLR
    Richard Kimball
    Shalom from the Rockys.

    ELLEN SELTZER
    BOSTON PLANT
    BOOVX1::SELTZER 
    LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING A MEMBER OF BAGELS!!

Mark Ellison
CSS::ELLISON
Merrimack, NH
 

    hello, my name is Gary Kushner
    
    I work out of three locations:
    
    	LTN1-2
        MR01-2
        AET1-2
           
    main DTN is 226-6034 (littleton, MA)
    
    nodes to find me are TALLIS::Kushner
                         CSMSRE::Kushner
                         HPSRAD::Kushner
                                        
    

    I'LL ADD FDCV13::ROSENZWEIG
    PKO3-2/K72
    

    STEREO::LEVINE
    
    Joined DEC at Natick, Mass. in 1976. Since then have been at Marlboro,
    Parker st., and Merrimack.
    
    Just discovered Notes a few weeks ago, and then BAGELS.  Have
    eyedropped (?) a few times, and thought I should register.
    
    Find the diversity of this fraternity very interesting, and expect
    to enjoy even more.  Have lived in Lexington, Mass since before
    joining DEC.  At DEC I have been in Materials Management, Marketing
    Forecasting and area Operations.  Currently I am out on disability.
    Also belong to Temple Emunah and used to belong to Temple Isaiah.
     Was one of the folks active in the formation of Temple Emunah--many
    moons ago.
    
    Can be reached at the address on this note.
    

    I am David Dines,  I live in Sudbury, and work in the Mill.
    
    I am new (about 1 year) to Massachusetts and am interested in meeting
    other Jewish families in the area.  Especially, I am interested
    in finding playmates for my 3 yr old daughter, and 8 month old son.
                                                   
    MLO12-B/U49                                    
    223-7109                                       
    
            
                               

    ABE::STARIN
    
    Mark S. Starin
    MK01-1/1A10
    DTN 264-5596

    AKOV11:COHEN
    
    Andrew B. Cohen
    AKO1-1/H4
    DTN 244-6871 (4pm-12:30am)
    

    GROSMAN @NYO
    
    ELI GROSMAN
    NEW YORK
    DTN 352-2163
    

Deanna Michaelson
    PKO3-2/11J
    DTN: 223-2863
    
    Have worked at DEC since 1977.

    SHALOT::GELBER
    
    Edie Gelber-Beechler
    CEO
    DTN 367-2089

    kaofs::Lightman
    Morrie Lightman
    KBS 1/1
    dtn 641-5005
    
    Currently Working near the Kanata Plant..Kanata,Ontario  Canada
    Working with Field Service since '73.
    
    Happy to be onboard !

    My name is Irwin Bramson. I am a project manager with the peripherals
    and graphics group of CSS. I can be reached on PGG::BRAMSON.

    Bette Finnern
    HARDY::FINNERN or WAGON::FINNERN
    DTN 264-1677
    M.S. GSF1/B21
    
    I've been with Digital for about a year in HPMRS Course Development.
    A professional history of applications programming, system security,
    EDP audit, and Big 8 consulting.  Married, 2 sons, living in Nashua,
    NH.  My youngest is in the 5th grade at the Merrimack Valley Hebrew
    Academy, and we attend Montefiore Synagogue in Lowell, MA.

    Hello to everybody!
    
    Cristina Dell'Oro
    E-mail: Cristina Dell'Oro @MIO or MLN01::DELLORO
    DTN: 7869-4725
    
    Let's introduce my self: my name is Cristina Dell'Oro, working in
    DIGITAL since 1982 in Milan (Italy). After 6.5 years in the Software
    Services as Data communication specialist (decnet, psi, ibm
    interconnect... do you know?), I've passed, last july, in the TELECOM
    group (Information System).
    This is my "DEC-history": now something more personal.
    
    I'm not Jewish, but I'm interested in knowing more about Jewish culture,
    religion and people: I've read some books (Marek Halter, Singer,
    Zangwill) about these subjects and ... finally I've found this
    notesfiles! I've already read some topics and I know that I've a
    lot of things to learn, understand and feel, and I am more and more
    interested! 
    My husband works for SCITEX wich is located in Herzlia,
    in the same street than Digital. He has been twice in Israel (last
    year and last month) to attend training: so I know a little more
    about this country!
    
    Thank you for your attention and sorry for my long speach: I thought
    it was correct to introduce myself since I'm enjoying of this
    conference!
    
    Ciao from Italy!
    
    Cristina            
    
                                             

    Bob Frolich
    GSF1-1/G13
    Network ACES
    NWACES::Frolich
    

    Jeff Finkelstein
    CHOVAX::FINKELSTEIN
    Sales Support
    Cherry Hill NJ
    DTN: 336-2038
    

    Dave Waldman
    DTN: 234-5098
    Node:NRPUR
    all in one @NRO
                
    

    Jeremy Steinberg
    2 Penn Plaza    6th Floor
    N.Y., N.Y. 10121         
    
    DTN 352-2167 (212)856-2167

    Chanoch Gottlieb
    TAVENG::CHANOCH
    
 
    I'm 29 years old, born in Tel-Aviv, studied in yeshiva at Golan
    heights and in Jerusalem College of Technology.
    
    I'm working in Digital only 10 months as a trainee.
    I'm living in PDUEL (a small place with 30 religious families) in "shomron".

    
    

    
    Aryeh Haimovitz
    
    TRC 14/3
    
    TROA01::HAIMOVITZ
          OR
    ARYEH HAIMOVITZ@TRC

   
       Jonathan Wreschner 
       With DEC Israel since Jan '87 after 17 years with IBM in Jerusalem.

       Born in England, emigrated to Australia as an infant in 1948. 
       Lived in Melbourne in a strong Jewish environment. 
       Came on Aliya in 1969 as did the rest of my family (parents,
       brother and sister). 
 
       Lived in Jerusalem until August '85 when we, that is,
       my wife Yaffa (born in Washington D.C., but brought up
       in Israel) and our 3 kids (Noam, Tal and Ariel) - moved
       to Efrat where Avia was born, and where we built our own home 
       - really fulfilling "yishuv ha'aretz" - settling the land.
 
       Efrat is situated in Gush Etzion (15 minutes south of 
       Jerusalem) between Bethlehem and Hebron. (I can claim to be the
       only DEC employee to have ever lived in this area steeped with
       nearly 4,000 years of Jewish history.)

       Efrat is a vibrant community of about 400 families with
       a population of kids that grows weekly (almost) "ken yirbu" 
       - may they increase even more.
 
       The rabbi of the city is Rabbi Shlomo Riskin of 
       Lincoln Square, New York, fame, and though most of the city is 
       Torah-observant, there is no religious-coercion - those who 
       choose not to observe Shabbat do their own thing. 
       Also politically speaking, there is a variety of opinion -  
       both right and left of centre.
       We have a daily shiur (Daf Yomi) every morning at 6:30 after 
       Shacharit. 
 
       I enjoy reading BAGELS when I get the chance, but sometimes I
       get "a little steamed up" when I read some of the "authoritative"
       comments that some noters spout, from thousands of miles away,
       relying on what this or that journalist or cameraman decides
       to report on the political scene to the whole wide world.

       Without living in the midst of things, I don't believe that you 
       can really know how things are. That goes for my colleagues here,too.

       BTW - how many other DEC people travel to and from work daily, 
       armed, not knowing where the next stone or fire-bomb is going 
       to come from, and if it's "just" going to break a window or 
       damage the bodywork, or perhaps cause serious personal injury 
       disabling the driver and leaving him helpless to face the mob...

       WOW, that was some registration!! 
       Took me nearly two and a half years:-}

    
           Name:  Mickey (shrort for Michelle) Roos
           LOC :  APO  (Andover, Ma)
          Group:  Manufacturing Process Analysis
    Time Served:  This is summer fun!  This is my second summer here.
    
         I am 1 semester short of graduation from Rensselaer Polytechnic
    Institute in Troy, New York (right near Albany), majoring in Industrial
    Engineering.  I just recently joined the Blacknotes notesfile because
    I was interested in their attitudes and perspective on things, and
    it dawned on me, that if I was on that, I really should be in the
    Jewish one too!  (Actually, I didn't even know that there was one,
    but I figured that there had to be!)( I'm not black, but I am jewish)
    
    	I have been asked questions lately regarding Judaism, and I
    haven't known as many of the answers as I would have liked.  Hopefully
    this will help.
    
    Good reading!
    
    -Mickey
    

    I'm a software support trainer working at Andover, Mass.  I really
    enjoy this notes file.  I was born and raised in the NY-NJ area
    in a Reform home.  Explored all kinds of spiritual/growth alternatives
    and eventually "came home" to who I am - a daughter of Israel.
    
    Married now and living in New Hampshire.  Ketubah on the wall and
    the whole nine yards.  It sure feels good.  
    
    Laura Steinhart
    @UFO or NEMAIL::STEINHART
    DTN 258-4209
    Mailstop ACT/2
    

    My name is Francois ULLMANN
    
    -I work in Geneva (EHQ) for EIS.
    -I joined DEC about 2 years ago
    -I'm a french child of survivor
    -I'm heavily involved in zionist organization
    
    If you pass by Geneva area,I wait you for a welcome.
    Message @ GEO or GVA05::ULLMANN
    Chalom
    

    My name is Erica Fox.
    I'm Digital's Child Care Program Manager. Been with the company
    almost 9 years. 
    I have 2 boys...Benjamin and Joshua, 5 and 3 respectively. We live
    in Lexington Massachusetts, attend Temple Emunah, and, sometimes
    the Chabad Center just around the corner.
    It's great to read BAGELS...I don't feel so alone here anymore !!
    

    Registration update...  Now living and working in New Hampshire (Hollis
    and Spitbrook TTB, respectively).  We joined Temple Beth Abraham in
    Nashua when we moved up here last summer and are very happy with the
    feeling of community it provides, and the many nice people we've met.
    
    We're expecting our first child in October (actual, the due date is
    Simchat Torah, which would be pretty nice if we hit it exactly!).

    New registration -- 
    
    Larry Israelite has been with Digital about 18 month.  I live in Acton
    with a wife and 2 boys (Aron,8; Ben,5). We belong to Karem Shalom
    (formerly Concord Area Jewish Group) and we are all excited about
    dedicating and opening our new home at the corner of Route 2 and Baker
    Ave (across from Ho Jo's) in Concord. 
    
    I was pleasantly surprised to find this conference -- lots of interesting
    issues.

    Bill Gens
    Demand Print Group (Hudson NH)
    @HZO
    LVS::GENS
    DTN: 264-2463
    
    I've been at DEC since November 86 and live in Nashua, NH.

    My name is Jane Brzozowski and I'm new to this conference.
    My node is NHASAD::JANEB
    
    My parents are Jewish and I grew up in a home that had no religion and
    very little sense of heritage - so I've always had trouble with the
    question "Are you Jewish?".  
    
    I have alot of questions.

    RE: 32.130
    
    Change of Address
    
    Bob Frolich
    NWACES::Frolich
    GSF1-1/G13
    
    Thanks

    Al Goldman
    DASXPS::GOLDMAN
    A new reader of these notes with a lot of catching up to do.
    Located in the Dascomb Rd. Andover Ma. facility.

    SUBWAY::RAYMAN
    
    hello out there!!
    
    I am Louis Rayman, working at 2 Penn, reading this on the SUBWAY
    cluster.
    
    DTN 352-3088
    
    There are about 10 of us from Security Pacific who were swallowed by
    DEC when they bought the PriceWatch project (see SUBWAY::PRICEWATCH)
    
    p.s. is there a mincha minyan in this building?? or anywhere close??

    Bosact::Leonard
    
    Presently, a manufacturing consultant in the Boston ACT, an ORT
    accessory, and father of Josh and Anat.

    re: .242
    
    And he is one of those rare people, a "survivor" of Kibbutz Ketura, ;-.
    
    --David

    Ed Luwish, live in Sudbury MA, work in Spit Brook.
    
    Reach me at DDIF::LUWISH or DTN-381-2665, but not on Shabbos!

    change of address.  I am now at USEM::Rosenzweig which is at Maynard,
    (Parker Street), but I am presently on loan in Marlboro.  My vaxmail
    is still in Maynard, however.
    
    Been at DEC 10 years, married, three children.  One child is presently
    in Israel and has become a ba'al Tchuveh (sp) which includes completely
    embracing orthodox observances.  I have mixed feelings about this.
    
    Live in Wayland Mass and sometimes worship at a Chabad house in
    Framingham or the reform temple in Sudbury.

	FIR01::ABRUZZO

	Angelo Abruzzo

	Office address : via pistoiese 387/g 50145 Firenze Italy 

	telephone +39-55-318821. (NO-DTN)


	I'm living in Italy, La Spezia near Genova, and now I'm working in 

	Florence office.

	I'm software specialist and working in Dec since 1986.

	If you pass by Florence, tell me.

					Angelo

     
    Fernando Perez
    
    SHALAM::PEREZ_F
    
    I work as a Engineering Tech for the Product Engineering in DEC from
     
    San German, Puerto Rico. If anybody passing by this wonderfull island
    
    please stop by...
    
    DTN 8721-2037
    
    Shalom,
    Fernando
    

I guess it's about time for an update.

Dick Schoeller "Gavriel"
ZKO2-3/R56  Office 3R77
DTN 881-2965

Lisa Robinson Schoeller "Alisa"
MET-2/C7
DTN 291-7523 (She's on leave right now).

Just added 1-JUN-1990 15:05
Melissa Robinson Schoeller "Mindel"
She's not working yet.  But when she gets home we will be start on
adventures in sleep deprivation   8^{).

I'm up at ZKO now.  Still doing Inhuman Interfaces.  Working on DECplan.

We still live in Needham.  Still no shul, but close to making up our
minds.  We're still leaning toward Traditional Conservative (and it's
still an oxymoron 8^{) ).

L'hit,
Gavriel

>Just added 1-JUN-1990 15:05
>Melissa Robinson Schoeller "Mindel"
>She's not working yet.  But when she gets home we will be start on
>adventures in sleep deprivation   8^{).
>

Mazal tov, mekol halev.

Juan-Carlos

P.S.: Wait until she grows up to her teens - then you'll know what is sleep
      deprivation, until she comes back....

    Mazal tov lechem, Gav.  Now you'll be able to trace the circles under
    your eyes, ;-.
    
    --David

    
    Vladimir SMURF::SUKONNIK. Shalom from Vilnius, Lithuania. 

    Here goes:
    
    Name:    Barbara Goldenstein
    Vaxmail: Subway::Goldenstein
    DTN:     334-2140
    
    I'm brand new to DEC (only 3 months now) but very psyched to see
    this kind of conversation available to "DECies".  I joined the 
    New York Educational Services group, and am now busy doing Customer
    training.  I would love to get on the mailing list.  I would love
    to get involved with some activities in the NY area.  Any ideas,
    please send them along...    
    
    Thanks.

    Colin Benson
    
    MOVIES::BENSON
    
    NEW B1/2-5
    dtn 774-6110
    
    I'm a new hire at VMS Engineering in Newbury (England somewhere)
    I come from Dublin in Ireland where until three weeks ago I was one of
    a declining jewish population of maybe 1500. I miss my mothers food
    already. c'est sa.
    
    	for interested women i am 22 tall dark and handsome.These facts
    coupled with my unsuppressable modesty should make me a welcome member
    of any family! 
    
    if anyone knows anyone (!!) who worked in Camp Young Judea in N.H
    during the summer of '87 give me a blast. colin
    

Caryn Stewart
PKO - Maynard, Mass
VERGA::STEWART

Been reading for awhile - thought I registered earlier, but apparently not.

	"I will find my sheep and rescue them from all the places
	they were scattered in the dark and cloudy day. And I will 
	bring them back from among the people and nations where 
	they were, back home to their own land of Israel"
					(Ezekiel 34:12-14)

	I'm not jewish, but from time to time, if I'm eating a sweet
	Jaffa fruit or drinking a bottle of Karmel-Muscat I remember,
	that after about 30 generations of waiting and praying 'next 
	year in Jerusalem' I'm today a witness that the history and time
	is moving on ...  (see also Mark: 13:28-31)
	
	A very interesting notesfile !!
	Peter Imholz @ZUO
	furka::peter

    Marla Goldman @CWO
    DTN 533-7714
    SWAM2::GOLDMAN_MA
    Costa Mesa (Orange County), California office
    
    Hello, Bagelers!  I am fairly new to DEC, only 13 months (eight of them
    as an agency temp...); I work in Customer Services Account Support in
    the Southern California District as a Dept. Coord. III.  I love NOTES,
    and this is one of my several favorite conferences.
    
    I am 31 years (old?), and was raised in a semi-religious family.  My
    father was very Orthodox until he fought in WWII, and my mother is
    rather Reform in her style of observance (for the most part...deep
    inside, she still seems to think that she will be struck dead if she
    even looks at a piece of bread during Pesach...).  My parents raised
    their children to make their own choice about religion, and we were
    mostly trained only to observe the High Holidays, but did not regularly
    go to temple.   
    
    I was born in Nantasket, MA, raised all over MA, as well as in RI and
    MD (call me a corporate brat of Time-Life Mags/Books...), but did most
    of my adolescence and teens in the Newton, MA area (Newton South High,
    1974-75, Newton High School, 1975-76).  I moved to the Central San
    Joaquin Valley of Calif. (i.e., Barbara Stanwyck's "The Big Valley") 
    in 1978, and discovered that there are places where people have never
    even met a Jew, and I had moved to one of them!  In spite of this, I've 
    been in California ever since, but moved to SoCal in 1985...
    
    I am married to a non-Jewish, non-religious man, Fred Hartleben, 27; he
    wonders, still, why I flatly refused to give up my maiden name, but
    that's another story...we have one child, Joseph Peter, 2.5 years. 
    (See note #1019.0 of this conference for my concerns on *that* score,
    yet another version of a Jewish mother worrying...)
    
    Now that I am "mature" (whatever that means), I am finding myself more
    drawn toward practicing Judaism than in the heat and fire of the teens
    and twenties, even though I am not a strong believer in G*d.   This,
    too, is probably part and parcel of the Jewish Mother Syndrome. 
    Anyway, thus came about my participation in this conference.
    
    Now that I have related my entire life story, I should get to the
    point...I would like to correspond via E-Mail or regular mail with
    other Jews with similar backgrounds (i.e., semi-religious childhood,
    non-religious early adulthood, etc., or married to a non-Jew and
    raising kids, etc., etc.), as well as any persons who were in the
    Newton High School(s) at the same time as I.
    
    Sign me, 
    
    Wordy but interesting, I hope...
    
    Marla (aka Malka Avigail) 
    

    I've already replied to a couple of files but I'd better introduce
    myself.
     
    Name : Stephen Adler
    Born : London, England (Stamford Hill N16)
           At age 10, emmigrated to Montreal, Quebec, Canada
           Currently living in Ottawa, Ontario
           Lived in Israel 1968-70 (Kibbutz K'far Hanassi)
    EMail: KAOAO1::ADLER
           Stephen Adler @KAO
    DTN  : 621-4841
    M/S  : KAO 4-3/7A
     
    I've been with DEC Canada since 1977, mostly with F&A. Since June '89,
    have been the DECdirect CAS/Operations Manager in Kanata.
    I'm not particularly religious but more prone to the history of our
    people. Let me explain. When living in Israel, I worked as a shepherd.
    I would take about 500 sheep out to pasture at about 4:30 am. One
    morning, with the sheep settled down to grazing, I was sitting on a
    rock watching the sun rise over the Golan Heights and washing the Upper
    Galilee with that golden light that only comes at dawn. It was very
    serene and pastural. It then came to me that King David was a shepherd
    and that it was quite possible that he may have sat on this very rock
    when he tended his flock. It was very moving for me because for the
    first time I felt a sense of continuity to the land, to the Jewish
    people and the Jewish cultures.
     
    I hope I haven't bored you with this.
     
    Shalom,
    Stephen
     
    I've been with DEC Canada since 1977       
    

since i'm participating in this notesfile, i thought it only fair to let you 
know alittle more about me.

i am a christian, raised for the first 12 years of my life in the "bible 
belt", alabama specifically, where prejudice against all who are different 
from you is something you learn shortly after whether you root for alabama 
or auburn in football.  my contact with those outside my faith was minimal;
my parents saw to that.  then, at 12, my father was transferred from alabama
to pittsburgh, pa.  slowly, i came to be ashamed of my prejudice and through
a black friend, was able to come to grips with my feelings towards blacks. 

but, still, my feeling that the jewish people were foreign clung.  you were 
different and i could not deal with it.  a brief moment of light came when i 
met a wonderful israeli woman named yael, who worked as a programmer at 
massachucetts general hospital.  in her, i saw something i had never seen 
before.  but she returned to israel, to haifa with her husband and two 
daughters, shortly after i met her.

for years, i clung to a world that was all cut and dried, simple, pollyanna
pure.  the news did not effect me, i shut it out.  then i met a jewish man who 
gently showed me that the world was not like that.  we got into an argument 
and, in my ignorance, i wounded him deeply regarding WW2.  i didn't 
understand the reaction, so i began to read.  about the KZ.  about what 
people went through.  about israel.  and i was ashamed.

suddenly, for the first time in my life, things came together in 
understanding.  my studies of the bible, of hebrew and aramaic, connected to 
these people i had spurned and considered foreign for so long.  and it was 
no longer so foreign to me.

i will never completely understand, never be a part of it except as the 
basis of my own faith and the source of a respect i had not known before.
and i have become a christian zionist.  and i no longer hide, although 
coming aware in a world such as ours has been an extremely painful thing.

in my notes here, i may seem melodramatic.  that is because i am, it is part 
of my nature.  and this awareness, this tiny piece of that which you have lived
with all your lives, is very much in the fore right now.  so i ask for your 
patience.  there are many things i would say in that language which says so
much, but i'm rusty and never been good at tranliterated hebrew. 

g.

	My name is Deborah Israel Luskey and I am principal 
	engineer in MA (Thin Film Heads).
	I am soon leaving DEC (June 14th is my last day) and
	I have been reading this notesfile for a while now.
	
	I love Israel - my grandfather was born in Jerusalem
	and my grandmother lives in Bat Yam and Asheklon.  My
	parents escaped Egypt in '59 during Nasser and went to
	Brasil, where I was born soon after.  In 1977, my parents
	my brother, and I emmigrated to the USA, and my grandparents
	went back to the promised land.  My grandfather passed
	away, and my grandmother continues to enjoy Eretz Israel.
	Both my husband and I hope to live in Israel some day, for
	a while or a long time - he's a physician (hematologist/oncologist).  

	Today, I decided I want to ask if anyone knows of any 
	operations for Ethiopian Jews going on right now.  I'd
	like to send my contributions soon before I leave DEC,
	so I can take advantage of the matching gift program.

	Anyone?
	
	Shalom,

	Deborah

I am 'conditionally de-registering' (although I'm not sure I ever 
officially registered).

I am in the middle of a parental leave, and also am about to move to
New Haven, CT.  I will be looking for work near New Haven, preferrably
with Digital, however, if that doesn't work out I probably will never be
back to make my infrequent contributions to this notesfile.

Best wishes to all the interesting people I met through Bagels.
Look me up in New Haven (I'll be in the phone book) if you ever get there,
and please let me know of any interesting software/tech support/marketing
support-type jobs in the New Haven/Hartford area.  (I'll be reachable at
VISUAL::ROSENBLUH for a while yet, although I'm not logging in on a daily
basis while we move.)

Thanks and goodbye.

	Kathy

Oh yes, the baby is wonderful, she sleeps through the night already at
age 12 weeks, her name is Merav Judith, and her big brother (Yaakov Elisha)
is also pretty much thrilled about her. 

	I suppose I am also de-registering.   Today is my last
	day at DEC.  My husband (Barry) and I are moving back
	to our families in Dallas and Fort Worth, Texas.

	I will be going to graduate school and my husband has
	accepted a private practice position with Texas Oncology
	as a Hematologist/Oncologist.

	If you ever are in Dallas, give us a call.

	Shalom and L'hitraot!

	Deborah

    	I don't remember if I registered here a while ago, since then I
    	moved several times anyway, so here goes:
    
    	Dmitry Goykhman
    	DTN 276-8591
    	BUFFER::GOYKHMAN SMF2::GOYKHMAN
    
    	Currently working in New Ventures, Intelligent Information Systems
    	on the SmartFolder/Imaging project as a combination systems architect, 
    	imaging solutions consultant, integration leader for workflow and 
    	optical storage, with a good dose of marketing/business
    	development thrown in. Office in Stow, Mass.
    
    	Born in Minsk, USSR, a long time (for me ;-) ago. 
    	Ethnically Jewish, religiously agnostic.
    
    	Consume tons of info on politics, economics, and so on. Qualify as
    	a genuine "conservative", except in my family, where I am a pinko
    	cosmopolitan assimilationist :-)
    
    	Growing steadily more nationalist every year.
    
    	DG 
    	Over the years, growing steadily more nationalistic
    		
    
    
    SmartFolder/Imaging

    	I'm not sure if no replies to this note in over 3 months means a
    loss of readership, or lack of interest... or just that others, like
    me, have been enjoying this conference without letting others know
    about it!  8^)  Since I've been here for over a year now, I suppose I
    should correct the latter:
    
    	Name:  Frank Nicodem
    	Location:  Charlotte, NC (OPA)
    	DTN:  393-7571
    	E-mail:  SHALOT::NICODEM (or Frank Nicodem @OPA)
    	DECcie since: October 16, 1972
    	Role:  Software Engineering (Cross-Industries Platforms and
    		Applications EIC)
    
    	I am a Christian, but one (perhaps of the few?) who is keenly aware
    of my Jewish "heritage"  --  and, in some ways, very jealous of those
    who can claim a more direct "kinship" with those who I have used as
    role-models all of my life:  Moses, Joshua, David, Daniel, Ezekiel,
    Nehemiah, Joel, Deborah, Esther, Ruth, and so many more.
    
    	Last December I travelled to Europe at the very worst of the Gulf
    War -- and this conference was one of the sources of information (and
    comfort) in preparing for that trip.  A special thanks to those who
    contributed so much during that time.
    
    	As a side issue, I am currently beginning a role as project leader
    for a project out of the ISO ACT, and am very excited about working
    with the folks there.  Although in these difficult times I'm sure that
    it's a "pipe dream", I have the vaguest of hopes that this project just
    *might* call for that one-in-a-million chance... the opportunity to
    travel to Israel (when someone else is paying, of course!  8^)  ).
    
    	Thanks to all of you, and forgive me for being a "silent reader"
    for so long.
    
    	Frank

I suppose that I had better introduce myself, having been reading this notesfile 
(with great interest) for about 6 months.

	Name:	Peter Marer
	Born:	Budapest, Hungary
		Now living in London, England (Pinner area) since 1956

	Email:	Peter Marer @IME
	Node:	UPROAR
	DTN:	769-8172
	M/S:	IME E-G2

Looking forward to more interesting discussion.

    Shalom,
    
    	who:		Harry Woodward-Clarke (a.k.a. hazza :*])
    	where:		Sydney, Australia
    	what:		would you believe... 'meschugener goy' ?
    	why:		a desire to read and learn more about the Jewish
    			'way of life', especially as it impacts my own
    			Faith (Christian)
    	how often:	not very :( I have Moderation duties in the
    			Christian Notes conference that keeps me on
    			'the hop' - but as often as I can, I will be
    			reading.
    			(p.s. to the Mod's - have you though of
    			'rolling over' your conference?)
    
    	what else:	a deep desire to visit Israel is building
    			in not only my heart, but my wife's too
    			(she's 25% Jew). A love for the people of
    			G-d grows each day in us.
    
    	l'chaim! to life!
    
    	hazza :*]

    DELNI::TANKIN
    
    Harry Tankin
    DTN: 226-5745
    LKG2-A/W3
    

    
    
    
    
    Bernard Warshaw (@COP)
    MDCRAB::WARSHAW
    dtn: 339-5043
    MS: COP/7-9
    
    With DEC over 10 years. Only recently participated in this notes file.
    
    
    

    G'day All,
    
    My name is :-) Sunil Sethi
    
    Born: In Kenya East Africa and I am of India origins and had lived in
    	  England for 20 odd year now I live in Australia.

    Religion: Hindu
    
    I have been with DEC Australia for all of 3 months and enjoying it.
    
    I would like to know more about the Jewish faith as I have very little
    knowledge about it.  Also being an Indian I know that my country has
    given shelter to the Jews and gave them the freedom to worship.  I
    think it's the only country in the world that allowed the Jews to
    flourish and did not condemn them.  I have a respect for you all and
    your faith and hope that we could learn alot from each other.
    
    I wish you all well and hope that I make many friends
    
    Sunil                                                 

    	Well, it's time to de-register. I am going to depart DEC sometime
    in April, and I'll miss the BAGELS crowd ever so much... Good luck to
    all and every one of you, I'd pray for you if I knew how to do it properly,
    and may the arguments never stop :-)
    
    Dmitry Goykhman

    
    Re: .273
    
    We'll miss your wisdom and insights a great deal, Dmitry. Best
    of luck in your personal endeavors as well as those on behalf
    of the Jewish people!
    
    Jem
    

          I've been following this file for years but've never replied before.

          Bill Berger
          Software Specialist 4
          Digital Services
          PTO (that's Pittsburgh Pennsylvania)

    Evgeny Jake CXCAD::BERZON
    CX01-1/P26 (Colorado Springs)
    DTN: 522-2182. That is: (719)548-2182
    Born: Kiev, Ukraine, USSR on 9/25/65
    In US since: 9/25/79
    Religion: Trditional Judaism
    Marital Status: Single (but looking)
    Title: Hardware Engineer
    Joined DEC on 1/21/92
    

    Hi,everybody
    
    Name: Fabrizio Farrauto
    Mail at ROMOIS::FARRAUTO
    F.Service Engineer currently on Telephone Diagnosis activity.
    Born in Rome on 5/29/64.
    Some of you might already know me via SOAPBOX/MEDICAL/ITALY confs.
    Marital Status:Irrilevant (to you,of course).However,Single at present.....
    Religion: Catholic (but the very tolerant kind).Hardly ever go to
    Mass,because it's the time in my life I'm concerned with other issues.
    Why am I interested about Bagels ???
    Because it's all so different,I've never had any contacts with the
    Jewish community/society/world except for 2 ex-colleagues of my
    previous firm.
    The younger one was quiet proud of his heritage (the Roman community is
    the oldest one in Europe).The elder hid the fact he was Jewish,but once
    while we drove past the Synagogue he told me we where in the (ex)Ghetto
    -it's called Portico D'Ottavia-just to poll my opinion,without knowing
    I knew he was a Jew.
    Then I met a colleague from Dec-Israel(Haifa,I think) who came over to
    provide temporary manpower to our field service.His name is AMI MEIRON.
    Anybody know what has become of him???? I appreciated his sense of humor 
    and of course his professional skills.
    
    Ciao.
    Fab
    

It is a long time that I have been a silent listener of this conference.
The reason of this,is that I have a particular relationship to the Jewish
world,coming from my family feelings and history that I wanted to explain
well (and this is not easy for me,with my bad English).
At least I decided to start with a short presentation,and I will come back with 
a longer one when ready.
By family,my mother is Catholic and my father Jew;both of them are not religious
and my mother had also a strong feeling towards Jews,much before her marriage,
because of their persecutions.
Even if with any religious education,I was grown mostly in a Catholic 
environment.In spite of this,or better because of this (I will explain it 
better in the longer presentation),I feel to be part of the Jewish world and 
not of the Catholic world.
It is not a religious choice (I am not religious).It is more the feeling of 
belonging to a people.This feeling is in part rational (I find myself,my 
sentiments,my opinions so well represented in the Jewish literature,for example)
and in part emotional,coming from the very deep inside of myself.
I hope this is enough for the short presentation.
I will come back soon (I hope) with the longer one.
Donatella

    Yaacov Fenster
    TAVENG::FENSTER
    
    Living in Israel (Petach Tiqva), Working (as of 1-Jul-1992) In
    DEC-Israel, Herzliya.

    
    	
    	Michael Mahler
    	ALFALF::MAHLER (BULEAN::MAHLER, cluster alias)
    
    	Living in Massachusetts, working in Littleton (LKG) as
    	a consultant, after being away from DEC for about 4 years.
    
    	Very glad to see BAGELS is still around from 1985!
    
    	Glad to be back,
    
    	Michael (Mordecai, Crazy Motti)
    

    Hi Michael,
    
    Glad to see you back.
    
    I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank you for starting
    Bagels. Without it I would never have met my wife! 
    
    best wishes
    
    Malcolm 

    
    	Wish I remembered how to reply to the author (I know, RTFM)!
    
    	Thanks, it's nice to be back at DEC.  I've missed everyone
    	here (soc.culture.jewish doesn't compensate for not having
    	BAGELS every day) and I'm also glad the name of the file
    	hasn't changed by the way.
    
    	So, is Crazy Freddy still around?  Leo Simon? Dick? 
    	
    	Michael
    

    Who's "Crazy Freddy"?
        fred

Motti,

Welcome home!  I'm still here.  I suspect you were refering Fred Liss, who is
long since gone to other employment.  Leo is around somewhere again too.

Gav

    Please don't write me off yet...   :-)  It is true I do not contribute
    as much as I used to, but I still enjoy reading.
    
    Leo

    I've been with DEC for eight years, but I just started reading BAGELS.
    
    Bud Samiljan
    PUFFIN::SAMILJAN
    DTN 234-4755
    Loc: Northboro, MA
    
    My family and I will be moving to Acton, MA shortly (we've been on the
    North Shore of Boston for years), and we're anxious to make a strong
    connection to the Jewish community in the area.

    Hi,
    
    I am a fairly new employee of Digital(June 92') and have just
    discovered the notes file.  I am 29, single, jewish and live 
    in Atlanta GA.   I am originally from Peabody, Ma, and thought this 
    would be an interesting  conference to join.
    
    Now that I have found it, I will try to contribute if I can.
    
    Thanks
    
    Bryna Gesson
    

    Hi,
    
    Jonathan Blackman
    Network Consultant, Network Integration Services 
    Jonathan Blackman@UKO
    or
    HOCUS::BLACKMAN

    Hello,
    
    I have been with DEC for about six months here in Atlanta.
    
    I am a Systems Specialist here in the CSC.
    
    This conference seemed interesting to me, especially since I did not
    know of all of the Jewish employees at DEC.
    
    Unlike most of you I am a Georgia native and have never lived outside
    of the South, so I can provide a different perspective.
    
    Mark Lesser

Hi,

I'm Collis Jackson.  I've looked in here a few times previously
but am thinking of taking a more active role.  I'm a Christian
and am very interested both in Jewish heritage as well as
the Old Testament.  I recognize a number of names from both
the Christian-Perspective and Christian conferences, so I'm
not a total stranger to you.  :-)

    
    
    Douglas St.Clair
    
    Node SAINT::STCLAIR (it was at one time till a humorless system manager
    changed it from SAINT::ELSEWHERE).
    
    Active in Boston Area Jewish Singles activities, The Synagogue Councel's
    Affiliation Committee, and similar activites.
    
    

    I've been read-onlying for a few weeks...thought I'd say "hi"
    
    HI!  My name is Daniel Katz, I'm a DECTEMP working at the Specification
    Control Group in FXO -- soon to become MRO1.  Last spring I received my
    M.A. in creative writing from the Johns Hopkins University and I'm
    working at DEC, living at home, paying off my debt and hopefully, will
    be employed teaching English and writing at a private high school by
    next fall...at least, that's the plan.
    
    I was raised in a Conservative Synnagogue (Temple Israel, Sharon, MA)
    and my family is very large and ethnically very Jewish...although not
    particularly devout (My grandfather's favorite Sabbath dinner is pork
    roast...honest).  I tend to approach Biblical studies from an academic
    perspective.
    
    that's about it -- best wishes!
    
    Daniel

    
    Howdy all...  My name is Steve Lokietz (pronounced Lo' keets) and I'm
    on the PATHWORKS team in the Alpharetta CSC.  Grew up in the NYC area,
    lived in San Fran/Silicon Valley for a while, back to NYC area, now
    here in the Atlanta area, since July '92.
    
    I am not a practicing Jew.  The reasons for that are not really
    relevant here.  There are many things about Jewish laws and
    customs that are very interesting to me.  After my Bar-Mitzvah I
    attended "Hebrew High School" 6 hours a week and learned a lot of
    things in more depth than I had in 3-7th grade (of course it has been a
    while).  I am grateful for my culture and the gifts I have inherited
    from it.
    
    I've been following and participating in the conference for a couple of
    months now.  I appreciate when people make an effort to see others'
    points of views, and are open to discussions that value differences,
    instead of trying to "shout" others down and make them wrong when
    opinions differ.
    
    /sl
    

    Hi, everyone, 
    
    I have been at DEC for 3 1/2 years but I just discovered this file. 
    Wow, I am so excited I don't know where to begin.  I have just looked
    at a couple of entries and I am very impressed at the commitment,
    knowledge and open-mindedness expressed here, not to mention the
    diversity of opinions.  I look forward to joining in, hopefully, at
    some point with more than questions and awe, but I guess every file
    needs that too.
    
    I will be celebrating my fifth "birthday" on June 14th, flag day.  That
    was the day of my mikvah and my official conversion.  You, my fellow
    noters are now privy to information that very few people have, only a
    handful of my coworkers.  It is difficult enough to deal with
    anti-semitism and prejudice against anyone who is different without
    getting into the whole issue of being Jewish by choice as opposed to
    Jewish by birth, most people just assume (incorrectly in my case) that
    I converted to please my husband, then my husband-to-be).  In reality,
    it was the culmination of a lifelong search, well, not lifelong, but
    one I began in 1978 when I started exploring alternatives to the
    essentially non-religious way I was raised.
    
    I just loved the Conservative Judiasm which I ultimately embraced and
    my husband and I keep a kosher home and attend services fairly
    regularly (although we find ourselves drifting in and out of the habit
    when we allow other obligations to intrude).  I try to keep kosher
    outside the home as well and my family of origin and my friends are
    remarkably supportive and respectful of my beliefs.  Still, it is a
    struggle and I have my moments, and my questions...I hope to have some
    of them answered here.
    
    Thank you for being here.
    
    Sylvia
    
    P.S.  I don't know how long I will be able to contribute to this file,
    as I will probably be TSFO'd at the end of the fiscal year, but I
    decided to begin anyway.

Re: .295 

> It is difficult enough to deal with anti-semitism and prejudice against
> anyone who is different without getting into the whole issue of being Jewish
> by choice as opposed to Jewish by birth

Unfortunately, some people in the Jewish community seem to regard Jews by 
choice as not quite authentic.  Some of my friends who have converted to
Judaism have been exposed to subtle manifestations of this prejudice.

The reality is that most Jews by choice are highly committed to Jewish
belief and practice, often more so than those who were born Jewish.

It is human nature to be less than accepting to others who are different.
It should be a fundamental part of Jewish values to make extra efforts to 
rise above our natures and respect and value those who are different.

    RE:  -1,  Thank you.  What a lovely thought.  I had the same reaction
    to your note that I did when I first heard that it was actually
    improper for anyone to mention that a Jewish person had converted after
    the day of that person's mikvah.  Boy, I know a coupla people who can't
    STOP talking about it but that's THEIR issue, not mine.
    
    Happy as a kosher chicken with my choice, and thanks again.

G'day all,

I've just decided to look at this note after knowing of its existence for 
such a long time but just never had a spare moment.

I work in DECdirect in the Rhodes office in Sydney Australia.  I'm a Sales
Support Specialist. I was in the Customer Support Centre for 3 years
supporting the PATHWORKS product set.  Good fun but I needed a change.  I
now support the sales force for High-end PCs and Workstations and software.

I'v lived in Sydney all my life with the exception of 3 months living in
Fiji and several months travelling Europe.  I've never been to the U.S. but
I have family and friends over there so oneday will make the crossing!

I am married (4 months at time of writing) and we are both jewish.  My wife 
likes the traditions of Judaism but is not sure about the G-d concept.  I 
like to think there is something out there but like the traditions and 
values more than anything.

I'm interested in Jewish history and learning some Hebrew sometime, at 
present I'm tackling Italian....why not!

If any of you travel to Australia it would be nice to meet you and as I 
have found when travelling it is nice to know someone in another country, 
particularly if they're Jewish.

Seeyalayda (See you later for non Strine speakers)

Steven Bloom
Shalom Pinchus Ben Kimel
SNOV29::BLOOM

    re: .298
    
    Welcome, Steve. Now that you've found this conference, I hope you will
    also be able to find the time to contribute.  If you browse throught
    the topics, I think you'll find quite a range of interests and Jewish
    viewpoints.
    
>                                                                    My wife 
>likes the traditions of Judaism but is not sure about the G-d concept.
    
    I guess the question I'd ask is "Which of the many God concepts?"  See,
    for example, Notes 509.10, 518.7 and 135.39.
    
    Aaron

Shalom, everyone, from Ferney-Voltaire, France.

I've been with the company for many years; however, I have just stumbled 
across this conference.  My career has been with Central Engineering; 
however, in November, 1991, I started a 3-year relocation contract to 
work for Digital Services (now Professional Services) in Europe.  The 
office is just across the border from Geneva, where I usually attend shul.
I also travel a fair amount in Europe, and I try to find kosher food and 
shuls where I go.  [Yes, I have a copy of the Jewish Travel Guide].

My "home" is in Lexington, Mass., where I have belonged to Temple Emunah 
for many years; I get back there relatively often.

Scott Davis
885-6778
@FYO

    Shalom,
    
    New to this file (but not to Digital), I am excited to find this notes
    topic available and look forward to reading and responding.
    
    Mary Jo
    SWAM2::SMITH_MA

    I as well have just stumbled across this conference, but it does seem
    that this confernce is not too dynamic !!  I do hope that won't stay
    the case for too long, as I'm quite exciting I've found it !!
    
    Oh yes by the way, I'm working in Basingstoke in England - the hub of
    Jewish life !! ??? - or maybe not ! Well heres to more conferencing
    !!!!!!
    

    Hello from Toronto, Canada 
    
    Miriam Lyman
    trooa::lyman
    dtn 631-7414

    Welcome, Kathy.
    
    I'm not Jewish either, but I also love the culture and (what little I
    know of) the religion. You'll learn a lot here, mostly that you'll
    never know enough about it! 
    
    Marilyn

RE: .305
>  ... mostly that you'll never know enough about it!
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You already have the main idea! The same applies to those of
us who ARE Jewish.

Dave