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| 841.1 | It's Back | SSDEVO::T_GONZALES | | Mon Apr 14 1997 18:48 | 5 |
| Hi Ron, I think that product management has changed their minds about
retiring hszterm. I think they plan on putting it back in the next
consolidated diskupdate. They got a lot of feedback from
various people, like yourself, and the support is going to remain
until the swcc can incorporate its features.
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| 841.2 | | LEXS01::GINGER | Ron Ginger | Tue Apr 15 1997 13:22 | 20 |
| Thanks Tom.
I suspect we need to encourage more field people to offer input on the
need for a unix based, supported tool, to manage our storge. A GUI
based package running on NT or W95 is nice, but I contend a mission
critical commercial Unix system cannot be run from an NT box. We must have a
good tool that allows SCRIPTING commands from the unix environment.
Many times we do activites that require both interacting with
applications like Oracle and managing storage, like making or breaking
mirrorsets.
If you agree with me that Unix requires a SCRIPT interface to storge,
you had better add your voice to product management. They seem
convinced that unix systems will run just fine without hszterm
functionality. We may have delayed the retirement, but the plan is
still clear that product management intendes to retire it.
If anyone in sotrage engineering would like to see what happens in the
real world of customers running big storage arrays feel free to call
me, or any other DEC field consultant with such experience.
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| 841.3 | one more vote for keeping HSZterm | AKING::KRIS | | Tue Apr 15 1997 20:32 | 10 |
| I just discovered today (red-faced) that the HSZterm was removed off
the April LP CD. My customer is upset and annoyed, since he has many
scripts using hszterm on V3.2x. This is important to several other
customers, and I for one would like to see it continued on UNIX
systems.
My 2 c
Regards,
Kris.
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| 841.4 | One more for hszterm!! | TRN02::ALMONDO | Quid ut UNIX ? | Wed Apr 16 1997 12:48 | 6 |
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Strongly agree!!!!
Mario
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| 841.5 | another use... | KITCHE::schott | Eric R. Schott USG Product Management | Wed Apr 16 1997 18:08 | 5 |
| sys_check ( http://www-unix.zk3.dec.com/tuning/tools/sys_check/sys_check.html )
use hszterm. It also seems to have found problems with it in some customer
sites (hszterm) in that it hangs even when used to an idle lun on the hsz.
This tool is used for support escalations on Digital UNIX...
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| 841.6 | Isn't "HSZterm" alive and well?... | AMCUCS::SWIERKOWSKI | Quot homines tot sententiae | Fri Apr 25 1997 21:11 | 50 |
| Greetings!
I too have been investigating "Storage Management Utilities" (either "HSZterm"
or "SWCC"), and I believe that .3 made an incorrect statement re: the latest
(i.e April '97) "Software Products Library" contents. Please correct me if
this product really isn't present (I haven't gotten my CD's from ADS yet) and I
pulled this listing out of the HYLNDR::CDROM conference note #247.47:
<--- begin snippet from SPL master index --->
DIGITAL UNIX Alpha April 1997 Software Product Library Master Index
Table_1-3_April_1997_Removed_Products____________________________
Product_Name_______________Vers.__UPI____Status__CD[1]__Directory
POLYCENTER Manager on 4.1C 2K7AA REM 2 /pnv41c
NetView for Digital UNIX
StorageWorks HSZ40 Array 1.1A 3DCAA REM 4 /swa11a
Controller Utility for
Digital UNIX
<--- end snippet from SPL master index --->
Isn't "StorageWorks HSZ40 Array Controller Utility for Digital UNIX" what
you are referring to as "HSZterm"? Just curious since this kit (all the way
back to the September '96 "SPL" exists in a "/swa11[a]" directory and when
I look at the corresponding "Online Documentation Library" CD's one of the
first things discussed is the "HSZterm Utility". If this product noted above
from the April '97 "SPL" isn't "HSZterm", please advise.
I did find an external web page for "DIGITAL StorageWorks Command Console"
that descibes what I think is being referred to as "SWCC" in this conference,
but still don't quite understand if "HSZterm" and "SWCC" overlap or conflict
or complement each other or whether one (i.e. "HSZterm") is being retired and
the other (i.e. "SWCC") is going to be the replacement or whether both will
simply provide whatever features differentiate them today for the forseeable
future, cheers...
Tony Swierkowski
Digital Equipment Corporation
Software Partner Engineering
Palo Alto, California
(415) 617-3601
"swierkowski@pa.dec.com"
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