Conference school::sports_memorabilia

    
    I hate it when they don't have their items priced, and they have
    to look up the price for every card your interested in. 
    
    ......Roger

    I would definitely would agree with Tony a couple of replies back
    when he says you should try to "talk the dealer" down on price.
    My brother is a collector/dealer (small time) and he tries to undercut
    the "regular" dealers to begin with, and then he'll also talk deals.
    There's no question that the dealers are trying to "move" as much
    as possible. Their profits are directly related to how long it takes
    them to move their stuff.
    
    I was never one to try to talk them down in the past, but I've seen
    in the last few months how many WILL go down and it was surprising
    to me.
    
    John G.

    I hate it when you ask a dealer a price on a stack of unpriced cards or
    odd ball junk.  He will say, $1 a piece, and $4 for the Mantle cards. 
    Hey, what is it with Mantle stuff?  If Mantle's picture is on it, its
    more money.  I'm glad his cards and memorabilia is leveling off.  There
    is no reason why his stuff should be 5 times as much as other players.
    A recent BCN article has stated, that the Mantle era is over for now,
    and collectors who were after his cards have all but bought everything
    they need to complete their collections.  Prices should drop and
    stabilize but the appreciation will not be there for the near future,
    except for the rookie cards.  I think its good news, and the dealers
    who have been holding their prices high and firm can rot with them as
    far as I'm concerned.  At least the dealers I have come in contact
    with that sell Mantle Memorabilia, they have been rude, arrogant, and
    have for the most part kept their prices well above book, like its 
    card board gold.

	I don't understand the attraction to Mantle memoribilia either, except
	to brush it off as 'NYC effects'.  While Mantle was no stiff, he is
	easily the most overrated player in the history of baseball.

	Let the fireworks begin :}

    
    
        RE -1
    
    	I agree that Mickey Mantle was the most overrated player in the
        history of Baseball.  He had lots of potential but he also had
        a serious problem with alcohol. If he didn't play hung over so much
        he could have fullfilled his potential. Oh well, I guess he just
        enjoyed drinking more then playing Baseball. I just laugh when
        people mention his name with the all-time greats like Ty Cobb,
        Babe Ruth, Pete Rose etc...
    
    			
    							Wally
     
                                                             

    Now you boys shouldn't be talking about my boyhood hero like that. 
    Mickey for one thing always paid his taxes, and doesn't have 6 wives,
    and a half dozen kids he doesn't even know about, and doesn't hang out
    at the local horse track, or bookey bar.  So he liked to tie a few on
    every once in a while with his buddies Whitey, and Billy.  His cards
    may be overpriced, but his playing was NOT!  I would have liked to see
    the man with a good pair of wheels, he might have surpassed Babes all-
    time HR record.  Remember, he accomplished what he did in 18 seasons,
    the first year was a partial year, and with all his walks and injuries,
    I think he did a Hell of job, and was a credit to the game, unlike some
    other ballplayer who recently has not only hurt the game and its
    integerity, but has ruined his chances of ever getting into the HOF,
    and rightfully so.  There is more to getting into the HOF than getting
    4000 hits my friends, and I can't wait to see this Jack___ get his DUE.
    As for calling Mickey Mantle a drunk, Roy that reply should be taken
    off the file immediately, if not sooner.  Besides, the file is for 
    frustrations with dealers, and please don't move it to 40, thats for
    kind words about the Mick only.

    <FLAMES><FLAMES><AND MORE FLAMES>
    
    I've about had it with the B.S. going on about Rose and Mantle's
    worth/value as a player.  If you want to discuss the relative talents
    of these players please take it to ASABET::BASEBALL.  If you want to
    discuss the value of their cards or other memorabilia related topics,
    keep it here.  But enough is enough.  Does every conference that even
    hints of sports have to be inundated with Bull on the Rose situation. 
    Hey it was a year ago.  It's old hat!   Who really gives a shit!!  I
    don't.
    
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    'nuff said
    
    joe

    Thanks Joe...

    Dan

    Blow it out your ear pal, facts are facts, and if you don't want to
    hear about it, then don't read about it!!

    RE: .17
    
    My sentiments exactly.
    
    John D.

    Roy,
    
    Thanks for the support. 
    
    Rick,
    
    It's not that I don't want to read about Rose or Mantle.  I just get
    tired of every conference that even hints at sports has to go into long
    tirades on both sides of the issues (my side included).  This
    conference should stick to memorabilia.  I'll leave it at that.  And by
    the way, my ears are too small to pack all that into.
    
    joe 

	Well, folks, I have to admit there is still hope for the dealers
	at the card shows.  Here is what happened to me yesterday at one
	of the card shows I attended:

	My son asked me to buy a box of Fleer Ultra for him, so I started
	going around the different tables, looking for the lowest price.
	Some dealers were selling it for $33, $32, even $30.  I thought
	that $30 was a pretty good price, but I still decided to check
	out all the dealers before I would make a decision.  

		There were just 4 more to check when I got to this table
	where a dealer had a box of Fleer Ultra on display, but no price
	on it, so I asked him how much he was selling it for.  To my
	surprise, he said:  "That guy over there is selling it for less
	that I am, and he pointed to another table ".  I went over to that
	table, and sure enough, the guy was selling them for $28, the
	lowest price in the show !!.  

		Needless to say, I was very impressed.  There is still hope.

    Isn't that the same set going for over $50/box a few weeks ago?
    

    
    Two phrases that are really beginning to grate on my nerves at a
    card show.  One from each side of the table:
    
    Dealer: "That's what I paid for it"
    
    Patron: "It's all I've got"
    
    -rjk