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149.0. "WHAT'S THE STORY" by PENUTS::CPERSON () Mon Feb 11 1991 17:47

    HI,
    	Recently I put a note in here about me signing up for the Air Force
    Reserve and I recieved a great response from alot of people. The
    information was a great help for me and I would like to thank those who 
    helped me in my decsion. Now I tried calling a recruiter about me going
    in and all I'm getting is a run around. I realize that these men are
    quite busy but I'm serious about joining and I even asked for them to
    send me some information about the reserves and they said "ya ya ya".
    What is the problem here, are the reserves that full where that don't 
    need anymore more people?
    
    
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149.1CLOSUS::J_BUTLERL'audace, toujour l'audace!Mon Feb 11 1991 20:3020
    You might want to try your State National Guard office. Most have
    WATTS (800) lines.
    
    Often, Reserve and National Guard units are full. Some are allowed
    to exceed their authorized strength in lower grades by a few percent,
    but even then they often fill up. 
    
    One reason for hesitation on the part of some recruiters might be
    that "older" folks with stable jobs have difficulty getting away for
    the several months which might be necessary to accomplish basic and
    advanced individual training courses. 
    
    Another might be that the units no longer have the funding to support
    sending you to training. I know several of the units here have had
    their budgets reduced quite a bit, and much required local training
    is being done "for points" rather than pay. (points=retirement points)
    
    Good luck!
    
    John B.
149.2DPDMAI::HYDETue Mar 12 1991 02:0923
    In my 20+ years in the Air Force, most of which were in the USAF
    Reserve, I learned that recruiters are not a homogeneous lot.  Some
    tackle their jobs aggressively while others, frankly, do not. 
    
    Did the recruiter find an assignment for you?  If so, contact your
    gaining squadron or a recruiter on that base.  If the right person is
    there and not presently deployed on Desert Storm, you should be OK.
    
    Did the recruitor imply that he/she found an assignment for you?  If
    so, call back to the recruitor's office.  This person owes you the
    courtesy of a returned phone call.  Ask: 1) If you have an assignment,
    2) What base, 3) Name of unit, and 4) Your supervisor's name.  This
    will tell if your recruitor has really gotten you an assignment.
    
    If you really want to join the Air Force Reserve, it's in your best
    interest to visit the base.  I'm sure security is strict right now, but
    you should be able to get a pass if you've made an appointment to see a 
    recruitor.  Ask ahead of time to visit some squadrons.  Bring a resume 
    and don't be afraid to mail it to units you think you may like.
    
    
                                     Kurt
                                     USAFRes Retired
149.3Info for.0 DECWET::BAKERPete Rose is InnocentFri Sep 06 1991 19:5032
This may be a bit late to answer your original note but
it may shed a little light on the reasons you had a hard 
time trying to get in.

1.  To start you were trying to come in during a time of 
"conflict" War.  From what I understood during that time 
a recruiter could not sign up a person into the reserves, 
he/she could only enlist a person into the active forces.
The reasoning behind this was because alot of the reserve
forces had been activated.  I don't understand this but it 
is what I had been told.

During DS I was activated and remained at my home station 
at McChord AFB, WA.  I had friends that were in my unit 
that wanted to re-enlist because their ETS was "very" near
and they wanted to serve for the duration.  They were told 
that they could not re-enlist in the Reserves at that time
but could switch from Activated Reservist to Full-time 
active duty with a Re-enlistment.  I said "HUH"

When their ETS came of course they were not released due
to the militarys "Stop Loss" program and then upon 
de-activation and the coming of peace they were finally 
allowed to re-enlist in the reserves. 

I hope this didn't confuse you.
Did anybody else hear anything similar?


Later
Steve
USAFR
149.4Info for.0 DECWET::BAKERPete Rose is InnocentFri Sep 06 1991 19:5032
This may be a bit late to answer your original note but
it may shed a little light on the reasons you had a hard 
time trying to get in.

1.  To start you were trying to come in during a time of 
"conflict" War.  From what I understood during that time 
a recruiter could not sign up a person into the reserves, 
he/she could only enlist a person into the active forces.
The reasoning behind this was because alot of the reserve
forces had been activated.  I don't understand this but it 
is what I had been told.

During DS I was activated and remained at my home station 
at McChord AFB, WA.  I had friends that were in my unit 
that wanted to re-enlist because their ETS was "very" near
and they wanted to serve for the duration.  They were told 
that they could not re-enlist in the Reserves at that time
but could switch from Activated Reservist to Full-time 
active duty with a Re-enlistment.  I said "HUH"

When their ETS came of course they were not released due
to the militarys "Stop Loss" program and then upon 
de-activation and the coming of peace they were finally 
allowed to re-enlist in the reserves. 

I hope this didn't confuse you.
Did anybody else hear anything similar?


Later
Steve
USAFR