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76.0. "Military Bands??" by AYOV14::CAMPS_167642 () Fri Mar 09 1990 17:41

    Is anyone out there in a Military Band (reserves) ??
    
    
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76.1NO??AYOV14::CAMPS_167642Thu Mar 15 1990 13:264
 
    
                      I take it that means no !!
                   
76.2I'm not surprised no one respondedMPGS::MCCLUREWhy Me???Thu Mar 15 1990 17:019
    Hmm, AYO is Scotland. Aren't bands in UK regiments double duty?
    
    As for the US, actual Bands are authorized only at Division level.
    That means that the 26th Inf Div ARNG is authorized one and the 76th
    Div (tng) is authorized one. This makes two bands (one NG and one AR)
    in the six state New England region. In other words, very few positions
    and a very low probability that a member of one would work at D.E.C.
    
    Bob Mc
76.3Thanks AYOV14::CAMPS_167642Thu Mar 15 1990 18:537
    
    What do you mean double duty ?
    
    What does NG and AR mean ?
    
    Please excuse my ignorance in these matters, I am asking for someone
    else. 
76.4A semi-educated guessDOCSRV::STARINA Ham's Lament: Tu-be or not tu-be.Thu Mar 15 1990 21:0614
    Re .3:
    
    I think "double duty" would mean that band member is a band member
    and also works in another capacity. US practice is I believe to
    have the band members serve primarily as bandspeople.
    
    NG = National Guard
    
    AR = Army Reserve
    
    FWIW,
    
    Mark
    RMC USNR
76.5Medic, medic !!AYOV14::CAMPS_167642Thu Mar 15 1990 21:208
    
    In the UK bandsmen serve as medics as a secondary role. In the
    event of any war bandsmen both full time and part time would be
    called on as medics.
    
    Thanx for the info.
    
    Barry
76.6Some Canadian notesKAOO01::LAPLANTESpaceman Biff....my heroFri Mar 16 1990 15:4617
    
    In Canada most infantry units have bands which are separate from
    the line troops. The size and makeup of the band depend on the size
    and type of unit.
    
    	Highland units -- Pipes and drums
    	Line infantry  -- Brass 
    	Rifle units    -- Fife & bugle
    
    I don't believe that other combat arms units have bands, but I might
    be mistaken.
    
    In my unit all bandsmen must be qualified infantry before being
    accepted (this is a unit requirement not regulatory) and they have
    combat duty as medics.
    
    Roger
76.7when you're not playing, drive this tankMPGS::MCCLUREWhy Me???Fri Mar 16 1990 16:3715
    Yes, by double duty I was referring to the scenario where a
    bandsman had to be an infantryman first and a bandsman second.
    I got this impression from attending performances of the touring
    Highland Regimental Bands in the US. I remember distinctly that
    the regiment was stationed in W.Germany and in their field training
    phase, all the band members were involved in combat exercises.
    
    Some US units have 'volunteer' bands, but these are usually very
    small. My previous note referred to specifically designated bands.
    For instance, the 76th Division Band. The members of such a unit
    would have Military Occupational designations as "Bandsman", with
    special skill identifiers referring to instrument played. They have
    no other duties than to play their instrument, even in time of war.
    
    Bob Mc
76.8MEDIC OR BANDSMAN, THE TRUTHWARHED::BROCKENWed May 09 1990 14:5934
    At last I have found my way into this notes file!!!
    
    I read with interest all the ideas surrounding military bands and the
    TA so to set the record straight read on........
    
    I am a member of a TA military band based in the North West of England
    and know for a fact there are at least another six TA bands in the
    country.
    
    The band I belong to is 35 members strong and is in fact larger than
    the 1st Battalion band of our parent Regiment this is mainly due to the
    cut backs on military band strenghts over the last five or so years.
    
    Although Bandsman is a rank within the British Army the actual trade is
    classed as musician. Military music makers do not like being called
    bandsmen they prefer being called musicians!!!!!
    
    When the MOD started looking to cut back on military bands one way out
    was to train all musicians to fulfill a secondary or war time role this
    was instigated in the regular army and has now filtered through to us
    in the TA. The role we fulfill is that of a regimental medical
    assistant  i.e. medic and as we have undergone fairly extensive
    training in this field by regular army personnel please dont refer to
    us as many do as STRETCHER BEARERS.
    
    Hope this clears up a few areas and maybe provoces more discussion or
    interest in Military Music. I have lots more to give if anyone out
    there is interested. 
    
    PS anyone interested in buying a copy of our latest record only six
    quid, what an opportunity!!!!!!!