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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

856.0. "Moving with Birds" by MRKTNG::COMPTON () Mon Apr 18 1994 21:47

    Dear Pet_Bird Noters,
    
    We are moving to Colorado Springs in early fall and have to figure
    out the best way to transport about 6 pet birds and two dozen 
    breeders.....Any ideas or stories to pass along?  We have some
    choices that I know of (and probably a few I don't): air freight,
    under the seat if we fly out, rent a mobile home and drive four
    days with them all.....I saw an interesting story in Bird Talk
    a few years ago about this and picked up some ideas there, but
    figured we have some travelers in the notes file (Rita, are you
    still there?), so I'd really appreciate some input on moving --
    not vacationing -- with your birds.
    
    Thanks!
    
    Linda
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856.1I Vote for Driving!SWAM1::DEFRANCO_JEMon Apr 18 1994 23:2337
856.2good luckVIDEO::PULSIFERUNHAMPERED BY FACTS AND INFORMATIONTue Apr 19 1994 15:129
    Linda,
    
    Sorry to hear you will be leaving the area, but good luck.
    
    Instead of the motorhome, it might be cheaper and easier to load all
    the birds and their cages into a Ryder 1-way rental truck. But not as
    comfortable for the Driver(s).
    
    Doug
856.3I'd rent a motorhomeBRAT::MACDONALD_MThe Tincture TreeTue Apr 19 1994 19:418
    
    Linda, 
    
     I don't have any tips to offer as I never moved with that many birds.
    I'd consider the motor home.  I wish you the best of luck!!  And I 
    want to know when the yard sale is??!! ;')  ;')
    
    MaryAnne
856.4we FLEW!USHS05::VASAKSugar MagnoliaMon May 02 1994 17:0613
    
    Linda,
    
    Good luck!  We flew with ours - it took two of us on seperate flights,
    as we maxed out the number of animal crates that could go on a single
    flight.  If you fly, be sure and have your birds fly WITH you.  That
    guarantees they will make transfers at the same time as you do.  If you
    ship them as freight, they can end up sitting on a loading dock and the
    connecting flights are not guaranteed.
    
    
    						/Rita
    
856.5The ethics of a forced move....MRKTNG::COMPTONMon May 16 1994 22:3233
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Well, we looked at vans, cargo and mini, and at motor homes.  Guess we
    are facing a major investment to buy a used van, uncertain of the 
    reliability for the move, or about 5K in fees to lease a motor home.
    They only get leased for round-trips, so we'd have to figure out how
    to get the motor home back and then the driver(s) back to Colorado.
    
    And then there is always looking at ways to reduce the number of 
    birds I just _must_ take to Colorado with me!  I think we could handle
    the five cats on the plane on our house-hunting trip and have them stay
    with a friend for about six weeks (maybe not a friend still at the end
    of that time), and transport our half-dozen medium to large pet birds
    and get down from three dozen to one dozen breeders (from 18 pairs to
    6 pairs).   This is still a lot of fragile life to relocate.
    
    Some of my thoughts on this have to do with whether it is 
    right/ethical/humane to put some of these birds through the four to 
    five days in the van/motor home or find them good homes here.  
    I just found homes for four of my six finches because I don't 
    think they'd make it at all.
    
    Any opinions you wish to share?  
    
    Thanks....
    
    Linda C.
856.6I feel for you.SWAM1::DEFRANCO_JEThu May 19 1994 23:5821
    I really sympathize with your situation.  I would be awful to part with
    the majority of your flock.  I'm sure you've worked for years building
    up the stock that you have.
    
    Although I am not an advocate of flying, this may be the only way to
    go.  Can you talk to someone at the airlines to make "special"
    arrangements for such a large relocation/undertaking.  Who knows, they
    may be able to work something out for you in terms of pricing and
    proper handling where you have so many birds to transport.
    
    You may want to call some large scale breeders that routinely ship
    birds and get some tips from them.  Also, maybe the Agriculture
    Department might have some handling and shipping tips.
    
    You may also be able to get some tips from Angel Memorial in Boston or
    from researchers like Kaytee, or Dr. LaFabres.
    
    Best of Luck.
    
    Jeanne
    
856.7Who is Angel??MTWASH::DOYLEFri May 20 1994 12:241
    Who is Angel Memorial??? or is it a place???       Mary
856.8a vet hospitalABACUS::MACDONALD_MThe Tincture TreeFri May 20 1994 12:419
    
    Angell Memorial Hospital in Boston MA is a large veterinay hospital.
    I had to deal with them for a dog years ago and it was an awesome
    experience.  Just like a human hospital, the animals get their own
    ID cards and there are visiting hours.  Not sure if it is considered a
    teaching hospital like Tufts but we did see an awful lot of different
    vets. 
    
    MaryAnne
856.9More on Angell Memorial HospitalMRKTNG::COMPTONFri May 20 1994 17:175
    Angell Memorial is a teaching hospital.  Two recent graduates from the
    Tufts Vet School in Grafton, MA who took short internships at the Littleton
    Animal Hospital to observe avian medicine are taking their next turn at
    Angell as first year vets.  It is in the same building as the Mass.
    SPCA.  I agree with MaryAnne, it's awesome. /Linda C. 
856.10Up, up, and Away!!MRKTNG::COMPTONFri May 20 1994 17:193
    Thanks, Jeanne, you made several useful suggestions.  MaryAnne McDonald
    had also suggested renting a plane, I think mostly in jest, but who
    know!  I'll keep you posted here.  /Linda
856.11I was serious!ABACUS::MACDONALD_MThe Tincture TreeFri May 20 1994 18:3511
    
    Linda  I was serious!  I always thought that a private transport system
    for animals would be a great business.  I have seen some ads for them,
    though I can't remember where, might have been Animal Sense.  Contact
    the airport in Nashua to see if there are any "pilots for rent" ;')
    They have these services for horses.
    
    Hmmmm lets see, I'm due for a vacation, how many birds can I fit in my 
    Subaru......
    
    MaryAnne