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Title:Arcana Caelestia
Notice:Directory listings are in topic 2
Moderator:NETRIX::thomas
Created:Thu Dec 08 1983
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1300
Total number of notes:18728

1125.0. ""Space Rangers"" by SOFBAS::SHERMAN () Mon Jan 04 1993 18:12

    The first trailer for "Space Rangers" appeared in the Boston area last
    night.
    
    * SPOILERS *
    
    
    I wonder if the show will be as bad as the trailer made it look. I
    wonder if the show *could* be as bad as the trailer looked. The ship
    model looked like something from a 7th grade art class. The FX seemed
    to consist solely of electronics blowing up in showers of sparks a la
    "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" (no one has ever heard of a fuse).
    The one bit of "dialog" I remember was of a female character yelling:
    "Hold on to your jock straps!" (THAT'S writing!).
    
    There are four new SF shows premiering on TV this month; if this is a
    representative sample, it's time to stop watching TV.
    
    
    
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1125.1BICYCL::RYERThu Jan 07 1993 13:388
A reviewer in the Denver Post said it looked like a cartoon with human 
characters rather than drawn ones.  A style very reminiscent of Ice Pirates,
that movie classic with Robert Urich.  Pretty dreadful, actually.  I do like
the fact that they're using bullets rather than laser blasts, kind of a
throwback to simpler times, I guess.  And one more thing: that JoJo is some
kinda woman, eh?

-Patrick
1125.2CBS sure can pick 'em!LACV01::MCCARTNEYLike Paul, without the moneyThu Jan 07 1993 15:264
    Lame doesn't begin to describe this show, but it's the kindest word I
    can think of right now.  Linda Hunt was either severely bored or broke
    to be a part of this trash heap.
    
1125.3DPDMAI::MILLERRVirtually RealThu Jan 07 1993 16:497
    Personally, I always use bullets in pressurized ships while surrounded
    by vaccuum.  I find it adds that special kind of tingly excitement to
    my day.  It also helps keep my dock crew employed patching holes. 
    
    
    "Space Rangers" = blech.
    
1125.4DKAS::RIVERSmay this vale be my silver lining.Thu Jan 07 1993 17:0016
    Oh, it wasn't that bad.   
    
    
    Okay, the effects were worse than Saturday morning kid-fare effects. 
    And yes,the personalities and plots were fairly predictable.  BUT -- 
    the scripts and delivery of dialog didn't make me wince, and I was
    actually sort of interested what was going on.
    
    No, Space Rangers won't attract intellectuals by the dozens, and I
    suppose it will bear inevitable comparison to Star Trek, which neither show
    deserves.  Space Rangers will end up on the losing side of the
    comparison, but for all its "this could be better" flaws, at least--at
    LEAST--everyone wasn't so damned nice and squeaky clean.
    
    
    kim
1125.5Not bad given the rest of Wed. Night's lineupXLSIOR::OTTEThu Jan 07 1993 20:4011
    I agree with .4--it wasn't that bad--heck, I'd only rate it as bad as
    Battlestar Galactica.
    
    They seemed to have set Space Rangers in a universe equivalent to the
    one Alien and Aliens were in (bullets, bureaucrats, and space travel). 
    Sure, there were holes in the script you could drive a deathstar
    through, but it beats the heck out of watching most of the new 
    series on the tube.
    
    _Randy
    
1125.6ACESMK::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Thu Jan 07 1993 22:378
    The writing is terrible.  The dialogue is stupid, the plot contrivances
    are absurd, the pacing and transitions haphazard at best.  All we're
    left with to enjoy are the actors.  I kinda liked Chernault, Boone,
    JoJo and Zylyn.
    
    Let's put it this way -- it's not even as good as Covington Cross.  The
    only reason it's not more of a disapointment is that I wasn't expecting
    all that much from it anyway.
1125.7POWERS::POWERSFri Jan 08 1993 12:2719
Yeah, the writing is the worst aspect of the show.
The morphing was nice, the matte painting weak.
I'm somewhat forgiving of the character development, and willing to give
them a few episodes to straighten it out, if they last that long.
Almost every ensemble TV show from All in the Family to ST:TNG
starts out on shaky ground, building personalities that can mesh
for continuity.  In the first episode, there's a rush to build as much
context as you can stand for the characters' rationales and motives.
In SR, the obvious example is the guy with the prosthetic arm being
paranoid about letting "Central" know about how prosthetic he really is.

But the plot devices......  Jeeesh....
The old chestnut about the AI failing into a jibbering mass
upon encountering something unusual.
They may not be able to recover from that, ever.

- tom]

PS: Cheer up, ST:DS9 starts tonight in the Boston area.  8pm, channel 56.
1125.8The Force is with usACETEK::TIMPSONFrom little things big things growMon Jan 11 1993 11:574
        FYI -- There were only 6 episodes of this show made and there are
        no plans to make any more.  Thank the Force!
        
        Steve  
1125.9Keep the Actress, Scrap the SeriesWOOK::LEEWook... Like 'Book' with a 'W'Mon Jan 11 1993 20:414
The actress who played JoJo would make a decent Romulan. Or a feisty Elf, a la
Tolkien.

Wook
1125.10three strikes and you're out, I hopePOWERS::POWERSThu Jan 21 1993 13:314
No improvement.  Episodes two and three were worse than one, 
and three was horrid.

This one's a deader.
1125.11PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollThu Jan 21 1993 15:272
    I think some people are taking this show more seriously than it takes
    itself.
1125.12ACESMK::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Fri Jan 22 1993 19:2912
    Actually, the problem is that we're not taking it seriously at all....
    
    I have no objections to an insouciant attitude in SF; I love Buckaroo
    Banzai, after all, and the highlight of the premiere was the early line
    "Please do not strike the equipment."  So if you mean some people are
    being humorless about the show, I think you're wrong.
    
    The problem is precisely that the show doesn't take itself seriously as
    an endeavor.  It seems to think that slapping together some futuristic
    sets and costumes will be sufficient to draw a large audience of SF
    fans.  There's no attention to the fundamentals that make a show
    interesting or enjoyable.
1125.13bass-ackwards character development...SMURF::PETERTrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyThu Jan 28 1993 13:4813
Strange.  Last night they showed the pilot show, which I thought might be
a repeat (already?) but it turned out to be real pilot, where characters
are introduced, and the crew gets set up (Dan, the new guy, is shown coming
in with the latest batch of recruits and then tries to sell himself to 
Boone).  We also see Boone's wife and kid, though the earlier shows
had them on earth, and either separated or divorced.  I wonder why they 
choose to show them in the order they did.  If anything, I'd say last
night's show had the, ah, most original (stretching it I know), plot 
of the ones I've seen so far.  Looks as if there might be one or two 
more 'inbetween' shows, though maybe they ditched some of the ideas out
of this one.

PeterT
1125.14Ah, the pilot-pilot....DKAS::RIVERSmay this vale be my silver lining.Tue Feb 02 1993 12:0213
    So *that's* why I was left wondering -- geez, didn't that kid already
    show up before?
    
    I was beginning to wonder if maybe the gung ho kid wasn't the same one
    I'd seen before (altho he looked the same).
    
    As for the show itself, the quality-meter gives it about a 2 on a
    possible 4, but hell, I *still* like it anyway.  It can only improve if
    it sticks around long enough to do so.  Besides, I like the theme song. 
    Lose the little sherrif's star logo, tho.  
    
    
    kim
1125.15Bring on Babylon 5!!!SMURF::PETERTrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyTue Feb 02 1993 13:267
It may already be gone.  Postings on rec.arts.sf.tv talk about it being 
put on hiatus.  I don't know if that means they will be showing this 
Wednsesday, or it's already been replaced.  Supposedly only 6 episodes
were shot (not sure if this includes the pilot).  Ah, well...

So it goes,
PeterT
1125.16Cancelled???NIOMAX::LAINGSoft-Core Cuddler*Jim Laing*232-2635Tue Feb 16 1993 13:533
    Haven't seen this one in several weeks, guess it was cancelled (?)
    
    Jim
1125.17KDX200::ROBRThis world is spinning around meThu Feb 18 1993 18:563
    
    we can only hope :')
    
1125.18FYICSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOThu Jan 05 1995 15:177
    The STARZ premium service is showing "Space Rangers" movies, under the
    subtitle (as I recall) The Chronicles I, II, and III.
    
    One of the previous notes indicates that 6 episodes of the series were
    produced; it appears as though the three movies were created from them.
    
    Dave