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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1651.0. "Insurance claim help please..." by SHIPS::SAUNDERS_N (Village Idiot says RKE) Sat Jan 11 1992 19:42

A question...

Back in June last year my car was quite badly damaged in an accident (other car
ran into the back of my car a roundabout). The insurer of the other car has 
accepted full liability for the damage at no cost to my insurance (which was 
TPFT).

After much haggling the original and scrap values have been agreed (my car was
considered to be a write-off).

The questions is, can I insist that the insurance company settle the full 
amount and be respobsible for collecting the wreckage of my car or can they
*insist* on paying only the difference and leave me with the wreck to have to
dispose of?

What does the panel think?

Look forward to your advice/experiences,

Nigel.

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1651.1Wild speculationJANUS::BARKERJeremy Barker - T&N/CBN Diag. Eng. - Reading, UKSat Jan 11 1992 23:056
If the wrecked car is in your possession I would think it reasonable for
them to pay the difference between market and scrap value which is what
they seem to have offered.  Otherwise I would be tempted to try to get the
full value - realising of course that this may cause delay in the payout.

jb
1651.2what do you want cash+wreck or not?PCOJCT::MILBERGsqueezed by the grapevineMon Jan 13 1992 07:5815
    Based on my experience-
    
    	the real question is - Do you want to 'salvage' the wreck?
    
    If so, then they will 'total' the car and pay you the market value and
    you will simultaneously 'buy' the wreck, 'paying' them the scrap value.
    
    If not, then you collect the market value and they own the wreck.
    
    In my case, I wanted the 'wreck' so we negotiated both figures (market
    and scrap) and when we reached agreement, they wrote me a check for the
    difference.
    
    	-Barry-
    
1651.3SBPUS4::MARKI wanna be a slug......Mon Jan 13 1992 11:4417
The Insurers must pay the difference in the value of your car immed. prior to
the accident to it's value immed. after. They choose to use words like "scrap
value", "Salvage" and "write off" (total loss). These have no effect on what
they should do.

Therefore it is normal in circumstances of this type, for you to retain the
vehicle and the Insurers pay the difference. This shouldn't cause too much of a
problem, because normally the car can be disposed of for this amount. If you
can't sell the car for this amount, point this out and tell them what you can
sell it for. However, make sure that you also are paid for any storage or
removal expenses you are going to have to pay. 

Which all goes to show, that when an accident occurs that is not your fault, you
still get stuck with a load of hassle which you are rarely compensated for, even
when the material damage is reimbursed.

M.
1651.4assuming full-value settlement...SUBURB::JASPERTMon Jan 13 1992 15:334
    Companies like Bracknell scrap metal will collect your car free of
    charge, they may even bung you 25 pounds. 
    
    	Tony.
1651.5SHIPS::SAUNDERS_NVillage Idiot says RKEMon Jan 13 1992 15:4516
Thanks for the replies to date.

>                     -< assuming full-value settlement... >-

This is where my question is, I've agreed the prior to and since values with 
the insurance company but can I insist that they pay the full total and leave 
them with the problem of collecting and disposing of the wreck (which is 
currently taking up most of my garage).

I fear the answer may be as a few back, they legally only have to settle the 
difference and then leave me with a wreck to dispose of and have to recover 
that share of the value.

Nigel.


1651.6SBPUS4::MARKI wanna be a slug......Mon Jan 13 1992 16:3913
As I said, you cannot force them to take your car.

>difference and then leave me with a wreck to dispose of and have to recover 
>that share of the value.

Make sure that the scrap value is something you can get. Ask at the garage who
has currently got the vehicle, get a scrappy around to quote you, and then go
back to the insurers. If it's going to cost you phone calls or whatever, expect
them to re-imburse you. Make sure that everything is covered and paid for before
you finally accept the money.

M.

1651.7Check the storage cost.UBOHUB::KINGSTON_DCreating the illusionTue Jan 14 1992 12:5510